1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The We're living in the future 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: and none of this has happened yet. Addition, as we 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: not only look ahead the Sunday's game against the Dallas Cowboys, 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: but also talk to an NFL draft expert about the 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: class of twenty one. My one on one player interview 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: this week is with a guy who has a very 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: unusual job quarantine quarterback. 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It's been a rough year 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: for the Bengals and this week's opponent, the Dallas Cowboys, 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: both lost their starting quarterbacks to season ending injuries and 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: are looking at high draft picks next year. Right now, 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the two, nine and one Bengals would have the third 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: pick and the three and nine Cowboys would have the 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: fourth pick. That's where we start this week's pod cast. 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler covers the draft for The Athletic and as 33 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: a walking encyclopedia on the subject. Recently, Dane joined Dave 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Lappam and me on the Bengals pep Rally Show, and 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: we began by discussing Oregon offensive lineman Piney Sewell, who 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: is widely considered to be the top old lineman in 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft. He's a very very talented 38 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: prospect and he's a very young player. He will not 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: turn twenty one years old until October. So a very 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: young player who unfortunately opted out of the season, and 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: I say unfortunately just for evaluation purposes, but we saw 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: enough of him his first two years. He started twenty 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: games at left tackle for Oregon. You know, for a 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: player that young to play at the high level that 45 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: he did, just a really impressive player. He's a native 46 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: of American Samoa, moved to the States, moved to Utah 47 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: and she has an eleven and just really started to 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: grow both physic glee and then on the football field 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: with his understanding of the sport and the position. And 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: you feel like he's still far away from playing his 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: best football. So you know, the combination of what we 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: have already, and that's just a player who you know, 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: he had that big man balance, he's got that mobility, 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: the football instincts, but also what you think he's going 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: to be as he continues to grow and you know, 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: as he gets older. I mean it's hard to believe 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: he was actually born a few weeks before Tom Brady 58 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: through his first path. So this is a very very 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: young player who has a very high ceiling in the league. Well, 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: when you when you look at it. I was wondering 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: physically obviously, the dimensions and the athletic ability and all that, 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: but I was going to ask you about the mental 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: part of it. Does he the football iq, the football instincts, 64 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Does he have football awareness? Does he see the is 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: he tunnel visioned on just his assignments? Does he understand 66 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: the total uh, you know, football philosophy and structure of 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: his offense, what defense is are trying to do to 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: his his position offensive ammuse into all that stuff. Are 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: you're aware is or is he still growing in those departments? Well, 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: he's still growing. You know. There are times where you 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: know he can be out angled in the run game, 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: and you know, and just in terms of understanding where 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: his landmarks are improving his body position, you know, the 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: timing midset. You know, these are areas where he can 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: get better. But I don't think there are areas where 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: they're a problem or you think it's going to be 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: an issue for him long term. But I mean there's 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: a lot to be encouraged with his instincts. He's a 79 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: player who he understands timing with his punch, his hands 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: stay up ready, explosive six inches, so he can attack 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: rushers before they get into his body. He keeps his 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: feet moving at contacts so he can create movement in 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the run game. And then I think there's something to 84 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: be said about his toughness and he will play through injury. 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: He played his entire senior year of high school with 86 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: a torn labor. This is a tough, tough dude who 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you know. There's a lot of things you point to 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: that say, Okay, he's going to be a pro not 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: only just a starter, but a Pro Bowl level player 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. We're talking to Dane Brogler, who 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: does a great job of covering the draft for the Athletic. 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: If Sewell is taken before the Bengals pick, how is 93 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: this class of offensive lineman after him? At think off 94 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: of the tackle position. I think there's a clear one 95 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: with Sewell. But I also think there's a clear two, 96 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: and that's where Shaun Slater at Northwestern. And I tell 97 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: you what, he's going to get dinged throughout the process 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: when he comes. I can see it now. He's going 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: to step up with the stage at the Senior Bowl. 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: He's going to extend his arms and they're gonna be 101 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: thirty two and a half thirty two and three quarters 102 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get dinged because he doesn't reach that 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: thirty three inch threshold that a lot of teams, a 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of evaluators have. But this guy's a tackle. You 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: watch him on film and you see a guy that's coordinated. 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: He understands leverage, you understand how to attack the opponent, 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: and so go on the tape of him again. Chase 108 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Young last year. He was the only tackle on last 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: year's college film that was able to slow down. Chase 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: Young at Ohio State a really, really impressive player, another 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: opt out. No tape from this season, but he started 112 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven games both at right tackle on left tackle 113 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: for Northwestern. So he is experienced player who is worthy 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: of a pick somewhere in the top twenty if in fact, 115 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals don't pick at number three. When you get 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: to number five or whatever the case may be, or 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: even at number three, is there an edge rush guy 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: that's close to school value on the board. It's like, Okay, 119 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I want to take the best available player on the board, 120 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: and position and need obviously is a factor, but they 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: need pass rushers as well as tackles. Is there a 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: pass rusher that may cloud the issue at all. You know, 123 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: we've been really spoiled the last few years with Miles 124 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Garrett and then you know the boasts of brothers Chase 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Young last year. This year, we don't have that guy. 126 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: We don't have that clear cut top five overall pass 127 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: rusher who's just different. You know, he's got special to him. Now, 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: We've got some quality pass rushers in this class, but 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: none that I would say are top ten locks. Gregory 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: Rousseau from Miami. He's the most interesting of the group. 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Another opt out red shirt sophomore who as in high 132 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: school he was a wide receiver, he played defensive back 133 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: and then he kind of outgrew those positions, moved the 134 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: defensive line as a senior, and then at the red 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: shirt freshman last year at Miami he led the acc 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: and tackles for a lock in sacks. A really young player, 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: but you see the potential really long. He's a good athlete, 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: but still piecing together how to be a pass rusher 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the sequence, in terms of his pass 140 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: rush moves, he could maybe getting at the top ten, 141 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: but he's not a top ten lock. He's not on 142 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: that same level and really that's the conundrum with this draft. 143 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: I think looking at the non quarterbacks, there's only a 144 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: few of these guys that you point to in say 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's definitely going to the top ten, and 146 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the Penna stool, and then I think 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, the wide receiver from LSU. After that, I'm 148 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: not sure any of these guys are absolute walks to 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: go in those top ten picks. No corners either. I 150 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: think this class has a few really talented corners. Caleb 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Farley from Virginia Tech, Patrick Curtan from Alabama. Would I 152 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: had named two guys on defense, those two would be 153 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the guy to be the guys. Caleb Farley with a 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: quarterback in high school, moved to wide receiver, then moved 155 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: to corner at Virginia Tech, and he's got a sky 156 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: high ceiling as a player. He's a good sized athlete, 157 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: six two. He's gonna run really well, he's got ball instincts, 158 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: still new to the position, so he's still learning. And 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: so it's just a matter of how early do you 160 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking a guy like that. Patrick Curtan, obviously 161 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the son of an NFL pro bowler, not gonna run 162 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: exceptionally well, probably somewhere in the four fives. But he's long, 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: he can press, he can pattern match, and he doesn't 164 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: nice job finding the football downfield. So I think both 165 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: those guys will definitely be in consideration, but I don't 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: know that I would call them absolute blocks. A couple 167 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: more questions for the Athletics draft expert Dane Brugler, How 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: did the quarterbacks line up in your mind at this point? 169 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: And have you heard anything yet about Desmond Ritter, who's 170 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: a junior at the University of Cincinnati, and I think 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: everybody expects him to come back for his senior year. 172 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: But is he on the radar at this point? Well, 173 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the Ritter's definitely on the radar, no question. You know, 174 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: after you get past these top four quarterbacks, that's Trevor Lawrence, 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: justin Field, Zack Wilson, and Trey Land, and you've got 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: a couple of seniors. You know, Kyle Trask is in there. 177 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: But Desmond Ritters one of the few, you know, upside 178 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks where you feel like he's maybe a developmental option. 179 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: He has the size, he's got easy arm strength, you know, 180 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: still has room to fill out that frame of his 181 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. The accurs see you wish is 182 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a little bit better. It seems like for every five 183 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: yards that he's throwing, it seems like his accuracy drops 184 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit. So, you know, he's a guy 185 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: that's easy to love. The competitive nature. You know. Talking 186 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: to my people in Cincinnati, they say he's just off 187 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: the chart. He's a true competitor. Obviously he's well coached there. 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: So personally, selfishly, I'd love to see Ridder go back 189 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: for another year because I think he could be continue 190 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: to get better and better and we'll be talking about 191 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: him as a possible first rounder in the twenty twenty 192 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: two class. But this year's class, it's going to dominate 193 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: the conversation. These quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence the clear favorite to 194 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: go number one, and then two, three and four, those 195 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: those next three quarterbacks. That's where there's a lot of 196 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: intrigue and split opinions throughout the league. There's no consensus 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: on these guys. Ohio states justin fields, just a really 198 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: good mobile athlete, very accurate with his passing vision, with 199 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: a little bit better in terms of going through his progressions, 200 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: eliminating things a little bit quicker with Zack Wilson has 201 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: this year for Byu just just really phenomenal. Byu hasn't 202 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: had the best schedule necessarily in terms of the opponents, 203 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: but watching him execute these throws off platform, instructure, out 204 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: of structure, changing his arm angles and just had a 205 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: natural accuracy to him. To Zach Wilson, he's in play 206 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: to be one of the first quarterbacks off the board. 207 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 1: And then Trey Lance, who's really an unprecedented evaluation. Seventeen 208 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: career starts in college all against FCS opponents, forty six 209 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: total touchdowns, only three turnovers, a lot of traits that 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: you bank on for the next level. So I think 211 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: you can be drafted high. But with his resume, his 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: meager experience, he really is an unprecedented evaluation. When you 213 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: mentioned seul and balance, I can testify to the fact 214 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: that when I played against defensive lineman that or of 215 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: Siman heritage, these guys were immovable objects. I mean they 216 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: all the weight that they cared was all on the 217 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: right places. Their knees were over their ankles, their hips 218 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: were over their knees. I mean they were just like 219 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: they'd hunker down, balance up, and you couldn't move these dudes, 220 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: and is he Is he that kind of guy? Is 221 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: his weight distributed that way? Is he that type of 222 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: an athlete? And what are his actual dimensions? I've heard 223 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: anywhere from three twenty to like three forty and above. 224 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: How big and strong is this guy? Yeah, it'll be interesting, 225 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: interesting to see what he weighs in at because obviously 226 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: we haven't seen him this year, so you know he's 227 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: obviously working out and you know, trying to hone his craft. 228 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: But what will he tip the scales at. I would 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: guess somewhere between three twenty and three thirty. He's just 230 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: a hair under six six, good length. But I agree 231 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: with me. I think he does have that flexibility, just 232 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: that natural, natural body type where the footwork, the flexibility, 233 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: it looks natural for him. The physical traits, you know, 234 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: no worries there, that big man balance, the mobility. That's 235 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: part of the reason why Tristan works is having so 236 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: much success as a for the team of Bay Books 237 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: this year. He has that big man balance. And I 238 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. You know, he's another one of 239 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: these just big samoans who it just looks natural for 240 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: him out there. It's really excited to see sewell this 241 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: pre draft process just to see what improvements he's made. 242 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: Is he moving the same? What's his weight at? So yeah, 243 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: it's plenty we have to learn about school, but he's 244 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: in that driver's seat to be the first non quarterback drafted. 245 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Dane Brogler does an exceptional job of covering the draft 246 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: and you can follow him on Twitter at d P Brugler. 247 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: Now time for this week's one on one player interview. 248 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: My guest is a player who joined the Bengals last 249 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: week and has a job that didn't exist in the 250 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: NFL until this season. One of the most unusual jobs 251 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL this year is emergency quarterback. Brandon Allen 252 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: had that job with the Bengals. Now he is the 253 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Bengal starting quarterback, and the new person in that role 254 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: is Kevin Hogan, who joined the team last week. Kevin, 255 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: we're calling an emergency quarterback because you have to be 256 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: kept somewhat separated from the other two just in case 257 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: they catch COVID nineteen. How difficult does that make it 258 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: for you to learn the offense and be ready to 259 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: play just in case. It's definitely a little different than 260 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: I've been used to in the past. And you know, 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, you want to interact with the other 262 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: guys and be in the same room with them and 263 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: socialize with them. But that's just the way it is 264 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: this year that I have to kind of be separate. 265 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: So I'm doing my meetings by a zoom and then 266 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: a separate room, and when we're out on the field, 267 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm just being conscious of staying, you know, a good 268 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: distance away, just to be safe. But yeah, and then 269 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: outside the facility, I'm you know, making sure that I'm 270 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: staying out of not good situations, I guess, and being smart. 271 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: So it's definitely different, but it's it's easy with Zoom, 272 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: easier than I guess it would have been without. So 273 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: I still feel like I'm kind of in there and 274 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: able to get a lot out of the meetings. For 275 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: chatting with quarterback Kevin Hogan. In a normal year, you 276 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: could try out with a team on a Tuesday, sign 277 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: a contract, and be at practice on Wednesday. Not this year. 278 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Describe the process you went through before signing. So I 279 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: was called on Monday morning, and I was on a 280 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: flight about a couple hours later, and as soon as 281 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I got to Cincinnati, I began my quarantine process, which 282 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: was five days, and the only thing I had to 283 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: do was come to the facility each morning and get 284 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: tested and then just make sure that I didn't catch 285 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. So it was a lot of a loane 286 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: time and trying to make the most out of your 287 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: day while staying in shape and getting ready for a workout. 288 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm picturing lots of take out and lots of Netflix. 289 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. Did you watch Queen's Gambit? 290 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: What did you Knock Off? On Netflix? So? I was 291 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: coming from San Diego, where I was doing quite a 292 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: bit of surfing out there. So I was catching up 293 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: on some of my surf documentaries last week, just kind 294 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: of keeping me in that low key, good vibe, just 295 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: so that I was able to, you know, not overthink 296 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: anything or just wanted to stay low key. You're talking 297 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: to Kevin Hogan. It's been reported that former Seattle draft 298 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: pick Alex Magoo also got to work out. Did you 299 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: two run into each other at all during that five 300 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: day period? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, Um yeah, I saw him 301 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: every day. Alex was a really good guy. We were 302 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: able to catch up a lot. He'd been down in Florida. 303 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, and he spent some time around the league, 304 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: so we're kind of just chatting and catching up about 305 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: his experiences, and you know, I wish him the best 306 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: wherever he ends up. So your name undoubtedly sounds familiar 307 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: to some Bengals fans because there are four quarterbacks in 308 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: history to rush for one hundred or more yards in 309 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: a game against the Bengals, Cordell Slash, Stewart, Cam Newton, 310 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and you. You did it in your NFL 311 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: debut with the Cleveland Brown. Seven carries one hundred and 312 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: four yards, including a spectacular twenty eight yard zigzag touchdown run. 313 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: What are your most vivid memories of that day? There's 314 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot. I have a lot of fond memories of 315 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: being in Paul Brown Stadium because of that debut. We 316 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: lost that day, but it was a lot of fun 317 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 1: making a debut in the NFL. And still have that 318 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: touchdown ball on my shelf. But I'm trying to do 319 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: it again. I would love to be able to do 320 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: that again a few more times. We're chatting with Kevin Hogan. 321 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: You're a Stanford grad. You had an incredible career for 322 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: the Cardinal, including three Rose Bowl victories. It's also a 323 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: great academic school. Obviously, how did you juggle football and school? 324 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: They did a really good job of providing resources and 325 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: any help you might need to whether it was balance 326 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: your time or your schedule, and with classes or practice. 327 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: They're very flexible, so I admit it easy on us. 328 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I know that the academics is tough there, so it 329 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: was really helpful to have those resources and the ability 330 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: for athletes to reach out if they need to help 331 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: or tutors. And then the coaches were flexible with practice 332 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: schedules if you had a class. So that's something that 333 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: I really respected from Stanford that they were really willing 334 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: to help the student outlete. You were on NFL rosters 335 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: for three years before being out of the league last year, 336 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: or what could you do last fall? So I got 337 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: injured in the last preseason game of twenty nineteen and 338 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: had to undergo surgery, and so I was spending a 339 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: majority of last season rehabbing, so that that took up 340 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: most of my time, and then just really tried to 341 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: stay busy mentally. I didn't want to kind of fall 342 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: into a funk. Anytime someone goes through some sort of 343 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: adversity that can be tough, so I was trying to 344 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: stay busy. I did a few week long internships with 345 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: my financial advisor, or actually interned on Capitol Hill for 346 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: a week, and really just taking lots of meetings outside 347 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: the football world just to kind of pick people's brains 348 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: and learn as much as I could while I had 349 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: all this time. You interned on Capitol Hill for a week? 350 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: I did with what representative? So I interned for Congressman 351 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: Steve Scalise, who's the publican whip, And it was a 352 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: very eventful week because it was impeachment week. Wow. Do 353 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: you envision a career in politics someday? Is that something 354 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: that interests you? No time soon. It was just something 355 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: that being from DC and knowing people who've been on 356 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the Hill that it was something that I wanted to 357 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: kind of peek my head into. But I would love 358 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: to play football as long as I can, and then 359 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: whenever my football poker has done, try my hand in business. 360 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, final question for Kevin Hogan. Obviously, you could 361 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: get into a game if there are injuries or depending 362 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: on the play of the other two quarterbacks, so you've 363 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: got to be ready to go. But beyond that, what's 364 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: your goal in this final month, Are you trying to 365 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: make a good impression so that you'll be back with 366 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals at the beginning of next year. Oh, I 367 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: would love to. I'm really enjoying my time here, really 368 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: like the coaching staff, really appreciate the opportunity that they've 369 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: given me to come in. And my goal is to 370 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: just be the best teammate, to help Brandon and Ryan 371 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: and the other guys as much as I can, and 372 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: then just show that I can contribute to this team 373 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: and really just be a guy that the organization would 374 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: want to keep around and show that I've made I've 375 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: worked on a lot of stuff over the last year, 376 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: year and a half and I want to show those improvements. Yeah, 377 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to be back in Cincinnati. Kevin, 378 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: appreciate the time very much. Best of Luft the rest 379 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: of the year. Thank you appreciate it. The Bengals Booth 380 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and 381 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. The Dallas Cowboys 382 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: come to town on Sunday with Andy Dalton at quarterback. 383 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: The Red Rifles ten benefit season and first on a 384 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: team other than the Bengals, has been eventful, to say 385 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: the least. He replaced an injured Dak Prescott in Week 386 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: five and led the Cowboys to a dramatic last second 387 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: victory in his first start. The following week, Dallas got 388 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: blown out by Arizona on Monday Night Football thirty eight 389 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: to ten, and one week later, Andy suffered a concussion 390 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: after a brutal hit by Washington linebacker John Bostick. While 391 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: he was out with a concussion, Dalton got COVID nineteen, 392 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: extending his time on the sidelines. He returned to action 393 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: three games ago, and the Cowboys have gone one and 394 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: two since, including a thirty four to seventeen loss in 395 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore on Tuesday Night. For the season, and he has 396 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: seven touchdown passes, six interceptions, and a passer rating of 397 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: seventy nine point five that would be the second lowest 398 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: of his career, only topping last year's number of seventy 399 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: eight point three. The Cowboys are in last place in 400 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: the NFL's weakest division, the NFC East, where the Giants 401 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and Washington share first place at five and seven. Clarence 402 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: Hill Junior covers the Cowboys for the Fort Worth Star 403 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: telegram and joined Lap and Wayne box Miller in or 404 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: no the faux segment. You know clans. When you take 405 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: a look at the game last night, obviously not a 406 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: good showing for Dallas, especially giving up almost three hundred 407 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: yards on the ground, But what was your assessment of 408 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: the game in total? Cowboy camp stop the run, Cowboys camp, 409 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: stop the run run. I mean it's been a you know, 410 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: a theme. You know, your arrival Cleveland Browns rushed for 411 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: three hundred in the seven yards because the Cowboys are 412 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: earlier their season. You know, the Ravens Damn Dear got 413 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: three hundred yards. They got two ninety four against the 414 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys and when when when when Cleveland did it was 415 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: about the two hited running back. You know, this time 416 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: was about not being able to contain Lamar Jackson and 417 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: then the things they do off for Lamar Jackson. So 418 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: it's been a season long problem and it's been a 419 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: different you know, the Cowboys could have done the things 420 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: in that game. They know their kicker Rigs are allowing 421 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: missed three kicks. They make those three kicks. You know, 422 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: it's a different game, you know, but the team was 423 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: not being able to stop Lamar in the run again 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: and giving up too many big chumps. You know, you 425 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: look at Dallas Cowboys schedule now their body clock as such, 426 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: they play on Thanksgiving, they have twelve days between games 427 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: to last night's game, and then they have basically four 428 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: and a half days before they have to play the 429 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: Bengals on Sundays. So you're going like extra long and 430 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: then real, real short and tight. What's been the sentiment 431 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: down there in terms of that scheduling quirk because of 432 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Well, you know it's too school. The thought 433 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: that means that they had extra time and study for 434 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens and it didn't make a difference. They prepared 435 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: for the Ravens and it didn't make a difference right 436 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: right out the short cloud that and now's you know, 437 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: just talking to the player after the game last night, 438 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: you know they're happy to put that behind him, to 439 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: get back to playing again, to put that game behind them. 440 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: But this is twenty twenty, you know, with COVID nineteen, 441 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: and you know, no one's life is as it should 442 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: be as one to be everybody's true true, It's changed, 443 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: and so you know it's part of the territory the 444 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: scheduled to schedule. The Cowboys has to be prepared to play, 445 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: and like everybody else has to be prepared to play 446 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: because you know, they're not in control of COVID as 447 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: a control and and and these teams in the league 448 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: are trying to make the best of this situation one 449 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. So, yeah, the Cowboys have a short week. Uh, 450 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: they're three and nine. You know, they got a lot 451 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: of issues seeking of issues when you think about this 452 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: team and the running game, and we were talking about 453 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: it a little earlier. You know, Zeke uncharacteristically fumbling the 454 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: ball a lot this year, But is there anything else 455 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: that you can point to as to why he may 456 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: be having a few challenges with respect to keeping the ball? 457 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: So the offen the line is awful. You know, they're 458 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: they're they're without you know, there was a time when 459 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys at the best officers line in the league. 460 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: You look at last year, you know they you know, 461 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: if the offensive line they had with with Jervis Frederick 462 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the first round pick and Tyren Smith a first round 463 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: pick and Zack Martin a first round pick and Leo 464 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Collins that first round Thomas at right tackle and none 465 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: of those guys are here at trafor Swift are retired. 466 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: Uh Martin, I mean, I'm sorry. Martin's on injury reserve, 467 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: like Collins on injury reserve, Swifts on injured reserve. And 468 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: they're planning with a lot of you know, undractive agents 469 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: and guys on the line. So if that's to play 470 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: a huge role in Zeke's success on the running game, 471 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: you know that this line is not you know, road 472 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: grading people for elected to run through gigantic hole to 473 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: take advantage of people in the secondary. So that's a 474 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: big difference in why the running game is not what 475 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: it was. And then Elliott has to take her the football. 476 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: He's never had five fumbles in the season. Yeah, He's 477 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: had six fumbles and lost five of them. He's put 478 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: on the ground six times, and he's never He's never 479 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: been known as a fumbler, that's for sure. No, he 480 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: carried them a lot, yeah, yeah, and he's high and 481 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: tight with it usually defensively, Mike Nolan, is he in trouble? 482 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean first quarter points, they've given up ninety four, 483 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty two points in the second quarter, 484 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen points in the fourth quarter, second 485 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: and fourth quarter, they've given a two hundred and forty 486 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: points of their three hundred and ninety three, which is 487 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: dead last in the league, thirty thirty second in the league. 488 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: Is Mike Nolan in trouble or because it doesn't sound 489 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: like McCarthy's in trouble, but they're going to break up 490 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: that uh you know that BFF deal between those two guys. 491 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: That's just it. I mean, this is Mike McCarthy's boy. 492 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah no, and Mike McCarthy doesn't want to get whatever 493 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: his boy, but or the Cowboys Jerry Jonald Stephen Jond's 494 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna make him get rid of them. Mike Nolan, that's 495 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: the course. And because you know the Cowboys have not 496 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: been great on defense in the past few years, but 497 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: at least I wouldn't you know on the Marinelli last 498 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: who was according the last six years before Michael McCarthy 499 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: five times that are defense therect in the top of 500 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: level against the run, right, you know, they were never 501 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: this bad and so you change the coach of the 502 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: changing schemes. You got the same players they want this 503 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: bad against the run last year, you know, and knowledge 504 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: sudden you change the coaching, the scheme and the scheme 505 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: and they can't stop anybody. And by McCarthy said last night, 506 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't the scheme. You know, we're not talking about 507 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: the scheme. It's some by executing Steve when Jones says 508 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: today on the radio that it's not the players. You know. 509 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: So if it's not the skam and not the players 510 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: that both executions, they're the disconnect there. I know one thing. 511 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: They're they're paying those a lot of those players, they're 512 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: paying all those linebackers, they're paying some of those defense 513 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: They're paying those guys a hell of a lot of money. 514 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: Not getting much return on that investment. I can tell 515 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: you that. No, And I always say that. You know, 516 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to me, the great run defenses are stout on the 517 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: defensive line, that spread up the middle. Ye okay, the 518 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys had average to blow average defensive tackles on this team. 519 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: You just look at the deeferensive tackles. So, yeah, you're 520 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: paying to Marcus Lars. But when you're a good runt defense, 521 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: stout up the middle, defensive tackle those tackle those guys 522 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: or run stuffing animals. They don't really have that. Yeah, 523 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you say that. When I was 524 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: watching the game in the second half, I came to 525 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: the realization, I'm watching as Baltimore, and they do have 526 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: a They have a different look, they have a different 527 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: the way they incorporate the quarterback running the football. It's 528 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven football instead of you know, ten on 529 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: eleven and you have you can get out gapped. And 530 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys got out gap quite a bit, and it 531 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: is a different thing to prepare for. And Baltimore, I mean, 532 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: they beat everybody up in the in the running game. 533 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: But I was watching, I'm thinking Dallas's defensive linemen they're 534 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: catching Baltimore. They're not coming across the football and hitting them. 535 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: They're catching them. And at that point they're giving up 536 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I mean they're getting they're catching 537 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: and getting knocked backwards. I'm thinking, man, that that just 538 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: can't be what they want these guys to do. I mean, 539 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I can understand two gaping rather than penetrating the gap. 540 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: When you're two gaping, you shouldn't be catching. You should 541 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: be attacking in two gap. You know, I don't know. 542 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: They looked a little soft, to say the least. I 543 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: guess they were soft. They got out of physical and 544 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: they got out of scheme. They was confused. You know, 545 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: you know when when Lamar Jaskin takes on fourth to 546 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: two and go untouched it in zone thirty seven, thirty 547 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: seven yards and seeing ghosts, I mean, you know, it's 548 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, but it's but again, 549 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: this has been a season long problem for the Cowboys defense. Yeah, 550 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: looking at vandersh on that play he runs, he chases 551 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the back across the backfield that Jackson faked the ball too, 552 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: and he leaves a gap open. Jackson just goes right 553 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: earth through that gap thirty seven yards for a touchdown. 554 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Like there you go. He said that there was a 555 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: ball of meeting. He didn't trust himself he read it, 556 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't trust what we read. And again then you know 557 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: without a position, so didn't trust his eyes. Huh, didn't 558 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: trust his own eyes. So and and that's part of it. 559 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: But again the Cowboys again we talked about the show 560 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: we can read sports for the Bengal. Well, the Cowboys 561 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: at extra rest, extra time and prepare for the Ravens. 562 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: They knew what was coming, you know what raped wood. 563 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has done a ton of film on the 564 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and running game and it is Gilding Hill. 565 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: They'll have more on Sunday's matchup, including comments from Andy Dalton, 566 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: on the Bengals pep Rally Show Friday from three to 567 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: six on ESPN fifteen thirty. My final conversation this week 568 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: is with a local entrepreneur who has partnered with the 569 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Bengals to introduce a new fashion brand with a positive message. 570 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals in Cincinnati based Black Owned out Or where 571 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: I teamed up to design a limited series retail collection 572 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: called Stripes Don't Come Easy, aimed at unifying the Cincinnati community. 573 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: The six piece collection goes on sale Saturday, December twelfth 574 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: at Black Owned and the Bengals Pro Shop. You can 575 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: also find it online at Bengals dot com. And joining 576 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: me to discuss the Stripes Don't Come Easy collection is means, Cameron, 577 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the owner of Black Owned out Aware, means, what's the 578 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: message behind Stripes Don't Come Easy? The message is that 579 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, if it's worth having, it's going to take 580 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: some hard work to get there. That's where we're looking 581 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: to let the Cincinnati community know with this campaign. We 582 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: understand that things don't happen overnight, but I believe that 583 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati can be a model town and model city, and 584 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: there's great work to do around our communities, surrounding the 585 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: support of black and minority communities, and we got work 586 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: to do, and I'm happy that the Cincinnati Bengals have 587 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: decided to stand right next to us and put in 588 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: that work. And we understand that stripes don't come easy, 589 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: but we're geared up about it. How did this collaboration 590 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: come about. I believe a friend of mine over at 591 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: Mortar was talking to the Cincinnati Bengals and there's a 592 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: new program that the NFL launched for the teams to 593 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: partner with local brands, and our name was put in 594 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: a hat, which is which is amazing just to be 595 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: the pick of the Cincinnati Bengals, considering there's tons of 596 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: awesome brands here in Cincinnati, to be the brand that 597 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals reached out to and say, hey, we 598 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: want to do something with you, and we wanted to 599 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: be meaningful, and I got excited immediately. So it's it's exciting. 600 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to means camera and the owner of Black 601 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: Owned Outerwear tell us about the collection. What makes it 602 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: a little bit different from the other Bengals gear out there. 603 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: The first thing I would say that it's featured by 604 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Black Owned, which is a message in itself. So that's 605 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: the first piece that is in collaboration. This Bengals collection 606 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: is in collaboration with our brand. But Dan on the 607 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: design side of things, I really wanted our capsule to 608 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: not just be, you know, another Bengals piece, and Bengals 609 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: gear is popular throughout every city because of the colors, 610 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: the history. It's just nice. But in order to help 611 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: our campaign and capsule stand out, I decided to go 612 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: with a cream campaign, which makes our pieces just a 613 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: little different from what we're used to seeing on the shelf. 614 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: That white, black and orange, or that orange and black, 615 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: black and orange. These pieces immediately grab your attention because 616 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: you're not used to seeing that orange and black parrot 617 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: with cream or Once I submitted it to the Bengals, 618 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: that was a little apprehensive and they came back and 619 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: they were like, we love it, and I was like, oh, 620 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: this is good. From that standpoint is it's gonna stand out. 621 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna feel unique, and that's what we wanted it 622 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: to feel. We want people to be able to identify 623 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: this capsule right away. We're chatting with means Cameron, who 624 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: has teamed up with the Bengals on the Stripes Don't 625 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: come easy collection means the Bengals have a group of 626 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: players that serve on the Positive Community Impact Committee. In August, 627 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: they let them march from Paul Brown Stadium to the 628 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: Underground Railroad Freedom Center, where Hopkins and Joe Burrow spoke 629 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: about racial injustice and being catalysts for change. What impact 630 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: does it have when players get involved, It has a 631 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: huge impact. We're ten years in as a brand, or 632 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: nine years working on our tenth year, and this has 633 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: been our message for that period. But when the people 634 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: that we look up to, the people that we see 635 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: on TV each Sunday, their voice is magnified. Their voice 636 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: is amplified. So when the players get involved, it says that, hey, 637 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: although we're professional athletes and we're busy and we have 638 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: a ton on our plates, this is important to us. 639 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: So when when professional athletes like Trey are willing to 640 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: go out and make that statement, it's everything because we 641 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: know how much work it takes, what we think, we 642 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: know how much work it takes to be a professional athlete, 643 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: but we understand that there's a lot of work involved. 644 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: So to have you know, Trey and Joe Burrow and 645 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Sean William and all of those other guys just lining 646 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: up to say, Hey, this is what we want to 647 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: do in the city of Cincinnati and our entire team 648 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: as a part of this. That's exciting. You mentioned Mortar earlier. 649 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: A portion of the proceeds from the sales of Stripes 650 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: Don't come Easy Gear go to Mortar, which is a 651 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: program that's been recognized nationally. You're an alumnus. What does 652 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: Mortar do and how did it help you. Mortar is 653 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: an organization and their overall mission is to equip underserved 654 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: creators owners with the tools necessary to run a sustainable business. 655 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: And I think in our community we have ideas were 656 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: able to start businesses, but oftentimes we're not able to 657 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: sustain them. So Mortar was founded to provide those resources 658 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: to people like myself. So I actually took the Mortar 659 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: class after I launched a brand, after I graduated from 660 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: Miami University. But still in taking a class, there were 661 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: things that I was able to learn during the class 662 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: that allowed me to get to this point. But the 663 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: knowledge is great, but what's also important for entrepreneurs like 664 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: myself or those relationships, and Mortar is a lifelong relationship. 665 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: I traveled with those guys. I consider them guys brothers. 666 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: So the fact that I have the opportunity to promote excellence, 667 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: sell some of my greatest designs and donate to my friends, 668 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: this is a win win all around. We're chatting the 669 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: meats camera and the owner of Black Owned Outer where 670 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals are one of thirty two NFL franchises. What 671 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: does it mean to you to partner with an NFL team? 672 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: So I have to be honest with you. Then at 673 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, every year I try to 674 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: set goals twenty or less things that I want to accomplish. 675 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: And one of my goals was I wanted to design 676 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: a uniform for a professional team. And I was work 677 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: in that lane because I think now is the time 678 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: to kind of get in there and put myself in 679 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: a hat. And I was thinking, hey, I could do 680 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: this and it came in a different form, but this 681 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: is this is just as great, and so I put 682 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: a check next to that that goal for twenty twenty. 683 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: So it means it means a lot. You grow up. 684 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: I grew up playing football. I started at the age 685 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: of four playing the game. I was a big kid, 686 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: but I started young and I played all the way 687 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: through high school. We grew up one to be NFL players. 688 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: I think in my neighborhood downtown Cincinnati, for a lot 689 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: of us, that's our out, being good athletes, wanting to 690 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: make it out and do better for our family. So 691 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: I never made it to the NFL to be a 692 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: part of the team in that way, but with this partnership, 693 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: I've certainly made the team. The Stripes Don't Come Easy. 694 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Collection goes on sale Saturday, December twelfth. What's it going 695 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: to be like for you when you see people walking 696 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: around town wearing that gear or carrying the bag with 697 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: that message on it. It's nine years in and sometime 698 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm still amazed that people take their harder on money 699 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: and bring it to my shop and spend it with me, 700 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: because I know how hard it takes for me to 701 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: make money, so I'm still in amazement. So all I 702 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: can say to that is that once the campaign launches, 703 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: and you know, and the town starts to fill up 704 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: and people are wearing this, I think that'll that'll be 705 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: another check mark on my twenty goals, which is to 706 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: make the city of Cincinnati a little smaller and that's 707 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: what we have the opportunity to do here. And a 708 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of times it's about understanding more so than anything else, 709 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: just understanding. And I think this capsule will create those 710 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: very important conversations that need to be had in coffee 711 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: shops and board rooms about what it is that we 712 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: can do when we understand one another, and when we're 713 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: supporting minority owned businesses, a couple of hometown businesses trying 714 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: to make Cincinnati a more unified place. The Cincinnati Bengals 715 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: and Black owned outerwear means congratulations. We look forward to 716 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: seeing this all over town. Thank you very much. It 717 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: is a great honor to be on his own with you. 718 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: This is amazing, So thank you, Dan, and appreciate all 719 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: of the work that you've put in for a city. 720 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: If you have a Bengals fan on your Christmas list, 721 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: the Stripes Don't come easy. Gear includes a jacket, a 722 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: hoodie that's what I want, a jogging suit, a T shirt, 723 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: a turtleneck, and a travel bag. You can see pictures 724 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: of the entire line on Bengals dot com and purchase 725 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: the items at the Bengals Pro shop or at Black 726 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: Owned Outerwear on Elm Street. That's going to do it. 727 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: This episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast brought to you 728 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 1: by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game. If you haven't 729 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: done so already, please subscribe and if you have a minute, 730 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: give it a rating or share a comment that helps 731 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde, and 732 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to The Bengals Booth Podcast.