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Speaker 1: made up of great men and women, and we are
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Speaker 1: won the Second World War because of men like fearless
Speaker 1: Freddie Warder, whose story we're about to hear. Here's Greg Hangler.
Speaker 1: There are many incredible stories of courageous men, incredible battles
Speaker 1: and heroes during World War Two. Rear Admiral Fred Warder
Speaker 1: a submarine skipper whose exploits in World War Two one
Speaker 1: him a Navy Cross and a nickname he detested. Was
Speaker 1: average sized, possessed firm lips, a determined chin, with piercing
Speaker 1: blue eyes under narrowed lids, and a smooth face. Warder
Speaker 1: graduated from the US Naval Academy at Annapolis class of
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty five, received his master's in Marine engineering at
Speaker 1: University cal Berkeley in nineteen thirty four. Was married and
Speaker 1: the father of four children. Having narrowly avoided the attack
Speaker 1: on Pearl Harbor, Rear Admiral Warder took charge of the
Speaker 1: USS Sea Wolf and set out for the seas of
Speaker 1: the Pacific to wreck havoc on Japanese shipping and quickly
Speaker 1: became known as the Artist of submarining. Warder fought his
Speaker 1: enemy hard, but he also respected and loved him. Let's
Speaker 1: begin our deep dive into this story with Submarine warfare
Speaker 1: Guru John Gorham. I attend a church here in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Grace Bible Baptist Church, and one of our church members
Speaker 1: mentioned that she had an uncle named Freddie Warder. And
Speaker 1: I said, I said, did you see Freddie Warder? And
Speaker 1: she said yes. I said, you mean like us submarine
Speaker 1: Captain Freddie Warder, and she says, yes, how'd you know
Speaker 1: nobody knows that. I said, oh no. To the contrary,
Speaker 1: he's the ultimate submarine warrior from World War Two. He's
Speaker 1: just it. Most people don't know this, but the vast
Speaker 1: majority of tonnage that was sunk during World War two
Speaker 1: enemy Japanese tonnage was done by the submarine fleet, what's
Speaker 1: known as the Silent Service. These men paid the ultimate
Speaker 1: price but something like fifty five percent of all surface
Speaker 1: supply shipping to the Japanese post war shipping and merchant
Speaker 1: marine were sunk specifically by submarines. So these guys, to
Speaker 1: me are the heroes. They were very small, efficient crew
Speaker 1: that punched way beyond their weight. Fred Ward really did
Speaker 1: punch way beyond his weight, even at family gatherings. Here's
Speaker 1: Fearless Freddie's cousin Anne water Lynn. I just know that
Speaker 1: if there was going to be a brawl, Fred was gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, punch out the biggest man in the room,
Speaker 1: and he was gonna ghit him good the first time,
Speaker 1: so we didn't have to go back. Fred wasn't that big,
Speaker 1: you know, and his brother Frank was big, and I
Speaker 1: had broad shoulders, and he was, you know, it looked
Speaker 1: to me like he was at least a foot or
Speaker 1: maybe more taller than Fred. And Frank was an FBI agent.
Speaker 1: Fred just knocked him out. He got to that first
Speaker 1: punch and that was it. And Fred was gone and
Speaker 1: Frank was down and out. And my mother said to
Speaker 1: my father, John, why do your relatives always have to
Speaker 1: pass out in our room? And my father said, pass
Speaker 1: out nothing, that's a ko from Fred, it was he
Speaker 1: knocked ye out. So it seemed to me that Fred
Speaker 1: fought with men the way he fought the war. You know.
Speaker 1: He was the little guy that had to get the
Speaker 1: big guy, and he had to get him with one
Speaker 1: punch and knockout. He's another one of Fred's cousins, Hugh
Speaker 1: four dice. Freddie was the oldest of my uncle Hugh's family.
Speaker 1: They had eight children and he was the oldest. And
Speaker 1: Freddie was Valdatorian. In his high school graduating class, I remember,
Speaker 1: was always had having a big smile away. He had
Speaker 1: a quick wit about him. His mother was Irish, you know,
Speaker 1: and he would make jokes about Catholics. And even though
Speaker 1: he was Catholic him job. No one in our family
Speaker 1: ever called Uncle Fred fearless or Freddie. He was known
Speaker 1: as the Admiral Uncle Fred Fred. And when my grandmother
Speaker 1: was feeling particularly stern, Frederick, especially when he was teasing
Speaker 1: her about drinking or about being Catholic or something. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the Sumba nineteen forty one, a date which will live
Speaker 1: in infamy, the United States of America was suddenly and
Speaker 1: deliberately attacked my naval of the forces of the Empire
Speaker 1: of Japan. Here's former aide of Rear Admiral Fred Warder
Speaker 1: don Almer. All the instructions that came out from the
Speaker 1: Commander of the Pacific Fleet was first off, it was
Speaker 1: the announcement that the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor, and
Speaker 1: the only instructions they gave was conduct yourself accordingly. And
Speaker 1: then shortly after a message came out saying engage attack
Speaker 1: and sink all enemies shipping encountered. That was very simple.
Speaker 1: Back in those days. The United States had already tried
Speaker 1: to stop the Japanese from colonizing and invading the mainland
Speaker 1: of China and Korea. A lot of misbehavior by the
Speaker 1: Japanese Empire in these areas that they quote unquote colonized,
Speaker 1: They basically invaded them and abused the citizens of the
Speaker 1: nations of Korea and China. And you've been listening to
Speaker 1: the story of Fearless Freddie Water and it's just underappreciated
Speaker 1: the role that the submarine played in World War two
Speaker 1: and beyond, and the risks these guys, mostly guys, took.
Speaker 1: It was all volunteer, always was and is because it
Speaker 1: is unique duty, submarine duty and it's dangerous and well,
Speaker 1: only certain types need apply. If you're claustrophobic, it is
Speaker 1: not a job for you. When we come back, more
Speaker 1: of the life of fearless Freddie Water, and we already
Speaker 1: the guy, don't we. But wait till you hear the
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Speaker 1: Let's return to the story. Unto Greg England, here's Stephen
Speaker 1: Trent Smith, author of Wolfpack, the American submarine strategy that
Speaker 1: helped defeat Japan. In the late nineteen twenties, fred went
Speaker 1: to the Submarine School in New London, Connecticut, and after
Speaker 1: that he was junior officer on a number of US
Speaker 1: Navy submarines, and in nineteen thirty nine he was the
Speaker 1: commanding officer at the commissioning of the USSC Wolf and
Speaker 1: remained commanding officer of the boat until nineteen forty three.
Speaker 1: War clouds started gathering around nineteen forty and his submarine
Speaker 1: was sent to the Pacific and eventually to the Philippines
Speaker 1: along with a number of other US submarines. His submarine
Speaker 1: was at the Cavetian Naval Yard in Manila Bay in
Speaker 1: the Philippines. On December eight, nineteen forty one, when the
Speaker 1: Japanese attacked the Philippines, they destroyed a couple of submarines
Speaker 1: not too far away from him. He got her underway
Speaker 1: and left Manilla Bay and was sent on patrol in
Speaker 1: the Northern Philippines off the coast of Luzon. The east
Speaker 1: coast of Luzon, near a town called a Pari. He
Speaker 1: saw a destroyer outside of Pari the harbor there and
Speaker 1: he went to attack it. But then he stumbled on
Speaker 1: a seaplane tender that was in the harbor, and he
Speaker 1: decided to attack that and he got a really good
Speaker 1: He made a really good approach. He had everything all
Speaker 1: set up. He fired four torpedoes from his forward tubes
Speaker 1: and none of them exploded, so he turned tail because
Speaker 1: the destroyer was going to come after him. But they
Speaker 1: set up for stern tubes to fire at the seaplane tender,
Speaker 1: and they fired those and none of those exploded. And
Speaker 1: the only thing I've exploded that day was Fred Warder,
Speaker 1: who was furious about the bad torpedoes, and that became
Speaker 1: a scandal during World War two that for the first
Speaker 1: couple of years of the war, the torpedoes did not
Speaker 1: work reliably, and he was just fit to be tired
Speaker 1: about that. Here is Rear Admiral Fred Warder. If we'd
Speaker 1: had torpedoes, we could have made a damned flying effort,
Speaker 1: but we did not have a good torpedo. Here again
Speaker 1: is former aid of Rear Admiral Fred Warder, don Almer.
Speaker 1: So Admiral Warder knew that the torpedoes were not working well,
Speaker 1: so he actually went into a place called a devout
Speaker 1: golf and there was a ship that was anchored there,
Speaker 1: but he was firing torpedoes at this ship. So one
Speaker 1: of the herpedoes went under the ship. Okay, went up
Speaker 1: on the beach and exploded. So that was one. You see,
Speaker 1: it's something I fault at the starpeedo's fall. And then
Speaker 1: he fired two more and it was but against the
Speaker 1: side of the ship and they didn't explode, so that
Speaker 1: that that kind of confirmed that. And then another when
Speaker 1: he fired and it was an erratic run called a
Speaker 1: circular run. The ruter is going to lock over in
Speaker 1: win position, it makes a circular run, and the circle
Speaker 1: run would bring it right back to about where the
Speaker 1: machinery compartment is. That the ship up. We did lose
Speaker 1: a couple of submarines, by the way, but but not
Speaker 1: to seawallf When Water anticipated this and he had his
Speaker 1: sooner people listening, he knew it was a circle run.
Speaker 1: He went down, so the torpedo passed overhead and came
Speaker 1: back up again and he fired a couple more torpedoes
Speaker 1: and he finished the ship off. Here again is Submarine
Speaker 1: warfare Guru John Gorham. What they did was the Japanese
Speaker 1: pre set. If you've seen in the movies, they look
Speaker 1: like fifty five gallon drums being rolled off the back
Speaker 1: of the tail of a corvette or a destroyer, and
Speaker 1: they were just basically loaded up with TNT. They would
Speaker 1: drop to a certain predetermined level based on and the
Speaker 1: sensor that was used was a depth sensor based on
Speaker 1: water pressure, and then they would just blow up. And
Speaker 1: if you had, if your submarine vessel was nearby, when
Speaker 1: one of those blew up, the shock was such that
Speaker 1: it could break open the hull or weaken it, or
Speaker 1: wrinkle the skin and do all kinds of damage. The
Speaker 1: vast majority of anyone's submarines that were lost during the
Speaker 1: war were lost to depth charges. He talked to me
Speaker 1: one to him about the depth charge evasion, and the
Speaker 1: way he put it to me is that, well, you've
Speaker 1: got to understand that what this Japanese destroyer, the enemy
Speaker 1: destroyers doing is he's making a noise and he's listening
Speaker 1: to the echo. Well, the more aspect that you show
Speaker 1: that ship, the stronger the echo. So basically, what he
Speaker 1: would always do is to turn and point directly toward
Speaker 1: the ship, and that gave him the most narrow aspect.
Speaker 1: And even though it meant that he was going right
Speaker 1: towards this guy that was trying to get him, the
Speaker 1: echoes were just coming back strong. They would come back week,
Speaker 1: which would indicate that the submarine was much further away.
Speaker 1: So the guy would go overhead, and he'd go racing
Speaker 1: out there and bang bang bang, the charges would go off,
Speaker 1: and and that was the time. Then he would make
Speaker 1: his course change or maneuver in order to put distance
Speaker 1: between him and that destroyer. The strategy of the United
Speaker 1: States Navy had with our submarine service was to go
Speaker 1: after the merchant rain because they were easy targets. They
Speaker 1: were soft targets. We could sink them, they couldn't fight back.
Speaker 1: It allowed our American submarine fleet to last a little longer.
Speaker 1: It's a little more dangerous when you go after a
Speaker 1: Japanese warship because they can fight back. And the most
Speaker 1: deadly warships were corvettes and destroyers because the destroyers are
Speaker 1: very shallow draft vessels. If you attempt to fire at
Speaker 1: a torpedo at it, at least at a corvette. A
Speaker 1: corvette is even smaller than a destroyer. Corvettes are so
Speaker 1: shallow that torpedoes go underneath, and you have to be
Speaker 1: a very good shot to take out a destroyer with
Speaker 1: a torpedo. The vast majority of American submarine commanders wouldn't
Speaker 1: tangle with the destroyer, but that's not the case with
Speaker 1: frennye order. Submarine commanders were a breed apart. A lot
Speaker 1: of them had a strong streak of independence. They didn't
Speaker 1: like being pushed around by admirals and captains, you know,
Speaker 1: and the Submarine Service gave them that kind of freedom
Speaker 1: because when a submarine left port, they had virtually no
Speaker 1: contact with the admirals and the captains. It was all
Speaker 1: up to the submarine commander. They didn't have anybody breathing
Speaker 1: down their necks. Everybody was required to go on seven patrols,
Speaker 1: and generally the custom was for a captain not to
Speaker 1: press his luck. Just like in Vietnam when a guy
Speaker 1: was down to his last month, they didn't go out
Speaker 1: on any scary patrols. You don't want to risk a
Speaker 1: guy's life if he's made it through a whole year
Speaker 1: and Nam, you don't want to push your luck at
Speaker 1: the last minute. But Warder is Warder, and he's determined
Speaker 1: to make this very last of his patrol's count. He
Speaker 1: was on his way back from the Palau Islands and
Speaker 1: he discovered another anchorage or an area where there was
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of activity. He sailed in a torpedo and
Speaker 1: he was able to sink a three thousand ton ship.
Speaker 1: Then he sank a transport. This is very valuable because
Speaker 1: not only is a tonage, but it's Japanese fighting troops
Speaker 1: men that will never make it to shore and in
Speaker 1: and threatened American lives. A seven thousand ton transport. That
Speaker 1: was a tremendous prize that he got. Then again he
Speaker 1: was able to torpedo again. On his way coming home,
Speaker 1: he was able to torpedo another ship to the tune
Speaker 1: of three thousand tons. So that means he sank thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand tons in one patrol. That's more than the majority
Speaker 1: of sub captains ever sank in their entire career of
Speaker 1: seven patrols in the South Pacific. How Freddie Warder got
Speaker 1: that name Fearless Freddy. He was the last boat out
Speaker 1: on patrol, leaving the Java Sea area, very low on fuel,
Speaker 1: very low on food provisions. The men were smoking coffee
Speaker 1: grounds rolled in toilet paper because they'd been out of
Speaker 1: cigarettes for a while. They're low on torpedoes. But Freddie
Speaker 1: Warder wasn't about to go back to his base with
Speaker 1: unspent torpedoes. Ridiculous. He'd never do that. He found out
Speaker 1: that the Japanese had invaded the Christmas Islands about two
Speaker 1: hundred miles south of Java, and he took his boat
Speaker 1: down in that way. He decided he just patrolled the area,
Speaker 1: cruise around, see what's going on. As he approached Flying
Speaker 1: Fish Cove, that's the one where the Japanese had their anchorage.
Speaker 1: It was an absolute submariner's dream. Four cruisers lined up
Speaker 1: in a row, lined up in a row. And when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to hear the rest of
Speaker 1: this remarkable story. Thirteen thousand tons in one patrol, the
Speaker 1: artist of submarine, the ultimate submarine warrior. And we're talking
Speaker 1: about Fearless Freddie Warder. Again. This is our American stories,
Speaker 1: always telling the stories of our fighting men and women.
Speaker 1: More after these messages and we continue here with our
Speaker 1: American stories, and let's return to Greg Hangler and his
Speaker 1: story about Rear Admiral Fearless Freddie Warder here again his
Speaker 1: submarine warfare guru, John Gorham. He found out that the
Speaker 1: Japanese had invaded the Christmas Islands about two hundred miles
Speaker 1: south of Java, and he took his boat down in
Speaker 1: that way. He decided he just patrolled the area, cruise
Speaker 1: around see what's going on. As he approached Flying Fish Cove,
Speaker 1: it was an absolute submarner's dream. Four cruisers lined up
Speaker 1: in a row, lined up in a row. He got
Speaker 1: in close and destroyers recognized him right away. He heard
Speaker 1: the painting. But he fired off four torpedoes at a
Speaker 1: cruiser that was about a thousand yards away, and that's
Speaker 1: about as close as a submarner will ever want to
Speaker 1: get to his target. So he fired the four torpedoes.
Speaker 1: As soon as he was convinced that he had sunk
Speaker 1: that ship. He dove low, and his law book reports
Speaker 1: that the Japanese were very effective in placing their depth charges.
Speaker 1: So he stayed low, and he waited overnight the next
Speaker 1: day and he slipped out of the cove. The next day,
Speaker 1: he slipped back in, and the Japanese, of course were
Speaker 1: alerted to him. They were on patrol. But he was
Speaker 1: able to maneuver in again and nail a second cruiser,
Speaker 1: and again he was depth charged, fled the area, waited
Speaker 1: until later on that afternoon he came back in and
Speaker 1: he struck a cruiser a third time. Captain Water comes
Speaker 1: in the very next day again because he wants to
Speaker 1: finish off this juicy collection. He's down to just two
Speaker 1: torpedoes left. They're on attack mode now because they're just
Speaker 1: absolutely patrolling the area. The water's boiling with ships going
Speaker 1: back and forth looking for him. He slips in because
Speaker 1: he's determined to use up his last torpedoes. There's one
Speaker 1: more cruiser left. It's flying the dependent of the admiral
Speaker 1: of the squadron, and he says, I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: guy out. So he fires his last two torpedoes at
Speaker 1: the cruiser and he hits them, but in the meantime,
Speaker 1: the destroyers got perilously close to him. He dove down
Speaker 1: deep and he endured nine hours of depth charge from
Speaker 1: multiple patrol boats, corvettes, destroyers. Unbelievable. That may be the
Speaker 1: record for the United States Navy for this submarine fleet.
Speaker 1: And during nine hours of well placed depth charging, and
Speaker 1: he says in his log book, he says, my men
Speaker 1: were really at the end of their rope, and he
Speaker 1: realized he had to go and there's no point in
Speaker 1: staying around. He had no more torpedoes. He's already taken
Speaker 1: out all four of the Capitol ships that were anchored
Speaker 1: at Flying Fish Cove, and he returned home in victory,
Speaker 1: and on the way the men said, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you fearless Freddie from now on after what we saw
Speaker 1: you do here again his former aid of Rear, Admiral
Speaker 1: Fred Warner don Almer. He later came back. That's what
Speaker 1: they call a division commander or a wolfpack commander, and
Speaker 1: that was after he was relieved by Lieutenant Commander Royce Gross.
Speaker 1: He went into Christens Island because they knew the Japanese
Speaker 1: were going to come there in order to, you know,
Speaker 1: take advantage of the potassium. At the time, they were
Speaker 1: nothing but abridge and all the people that were there.
Speaker 1: To give you some feel for aber Warder, he got
Speaker 1: there before the Japanese did, and there were facilities there,
Speaker 1: dock and that sort of thing, and someone suggested that,
Speaker 1: well maybe it's a good idea if we wouldn't here
Speaker 1: and blow all that up. Well, now you got to
Speaker 1: understand these this is a war going on, and these
Speaker 1: are just Aboriginal people. You would think that you who
Speaker 1: really cares about them. Wardered it and he said no,
Speaker 1: he said, we're not going to go in there and
Speaker 1: blow anything up. He says, because these people need to
Speaker 1: make a living there, and we don't want to hurt him.
Speaker 1: I guess later on I learned from the person who
Speaker 1: succeeded him in command of the Sea, Wolf Royce Gross,
Speaker 1: that he sent a Japanese merchant ship not far from
Speaker 1: that that place it went down. There were two survivors
Speaker 1: in the water, and the water wanted to bring him
Speaker 1: one board, and one of them blew himself up with
Speaker 1: a hem grenade, and the other was he just refused
Speaker 1: to come because the Japanese culture to time you do
Speaker 1: a surrender, you died for the emperor. And the wards
Speaker 1: figured he needed something, so he actually tossed him a
Speaker 1: life jacket and a fifth of bourbon. The Japanese acknowledged
Speaker 1: within but from what water could tell that he was,
Speaker 1: you know, carried out to sea and ultimately was lost.
Speaker 1: Here again is Stephen Trent Smith, author of Wolfpack, the
Speaker 1: American submarine strategy that helped the feet Japan. When he
Speaker 1: was patrolling down in the Java Sea area, he sunk
Speaker 1: a Japanese ship and he surfaced and discovered a lot
Speaker 1: of Japanese just floating in the water without life jackets.
Speaker 1: So he had the crew his crew throw as many
Speaker 1: life jackets as they could to help the surviving sailors.
Speaker 1: He saw them as an enemy. I mean, the Japanese
Speaker 1: is truly an enemy because of what they had done,
Speaker 1: particularly Pearl Harmor. But he believed that your enemy is
Speaker 1: also your brother. To be a successful captain, you have
Speaker 1: to have a crew that will obey you, and you
Speaker 1: have to have a crew that respects you enough to
Speaker 1: risk their lives. Because he isn't called fearless Freddie for nothing.
Speaker 1: He would take risks that almost no other submarine captain didn't. Well,
Speaker 1: some of them took risks and they just didn't live
Speaker 1: to tell about it, which is understandable. That's what they
Speaker 1: called a risk. But Freddie absolutely earned that title being
Speaker 1: called fearless. He absolutely was fearless, and his men would
Speaker 1: go to the gates of hell and back for him.
Speaker 1: He had their utmost respect. Here again is Fearless Freddie's
Speaker 1: cousin and ward Lynn. He really did believe in a
Speaker 1: hard war and an easy peace. He wanted the war
Speaker 1: to be fought hard and fast and be over with
Speaker 1: so that humanity could get back to being humanity. Because
Speaker 1: I never really heard him say an ugly thing about anyone.
Speaker 1: I never heard anyone say he said an ugly thing
Speaker 1: about another person. If you were with him, you just
Speaker 1: felt like you were the only person on earth. He
Speaker 1: really made people feel his warmth idea. I mean, you
Speaker 1: just fairly wanted him to be proud of you. You
Speaker 1: were proud to be with him, and you wanted him
Speaker 1: to be proud of you. And he's one of my
Speaker 1: fondest childhood memories. Actually, he went on to earn two
Speaker 1: Navy crosses, of course, a legion and hurt. He got
Speaker 1: those Navy Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement Medal than the usual ones,
Speaker 1: the Victory Medal, Philippine Service Medal, and the Agietic Pacific Medal.
Speaker 1: From what I've read in his obituary and been told
Speaker 1: by my father, Uncle Fred really didn't like the name
Speaker 1: fearless Freddie because he was just as afraid as anybody
Speaker 1: else on the submarine and his crew. And his crew
Speaker 1: were as heroes whom he fondly referred to as his
Speaker 1: beloved sons of you know what, And he felt and
Speaker 1: said that the real heroes and war are those that
Speaker 1: give their lives. Here again is Rear Admiral fred Water
Speaker 1: said you the name fearless, Well, I know I did
Speaker 1: are one. I'm scared to row, I mean RAI shooge gated.
Speaker 1: I'm scared. Fred Warder became Assistant Chief of Naval Operations
Speaker 1: for Undersea Warfare in nineteen fifty five. He commanded the
Speaker 1: Submarine Force Atlantic Fleet in nineteen fifty seven and retired
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two after two years as Commandant of
Speaker 1: the eighth Naval District in New Orleans. He retired in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two and died at his home on February first,
Speaker 1: two thousand. He was ninety five years old. I'm Greg
Speaker 1: Hengler and this is our American stories and great job
Speaker 1: is always to Greg Hengler and special thanks to dang
Speaker 1: Lynn Productions for allowing us access to the one of
Speaker 1: a kind interviews from their documentary Fearless Freddie. Checked out
Speaker 1: the trailer and the film at Fearless Freddie movie dot com.
Speaker 1: That's Fearless freddiemovie dot com. And what a story we heard. Indeed,
Speaker 1: this Annapolis grad class of nineteen twenty five, married, father
Speaker 1: of four and a leader and in the end a
Speaker 1: soldier underground. He rose above his fear and led anyway.
Speaker 1: And that's why he was the man. He was the
Speaker 1: artist of submarine in the Ultimate Submarine Warrior, Freddie Water.
Speaker 1: Fearless Freddie Water, his story here on our American story.