WEBVTT - "Fearless Freddie" Warder

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<v Speaker 1>made up of great men and women, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>won the Second World War because of men like fearless

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie Warder, whose story we're about to hear. Here's Greg Hangler.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many incredible stories of courageous men, incredible battles

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<v Speaker 1>and heroes during World War Two. Rear Admiral Fred Warder

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<v Speaker 1>a submarine skipper whose exploits in World War Two one

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<v Speaker 1>him a Navy Cross and a nickname he detested. Was

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<v Speaker 1>average sized, possessed firm lips, a determined chin, with piercing

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<v Speaker 1>blue eyes under narrowed lids, and a smooth face. Warder

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from the US Naval Academy at Annapolis class of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty five, received his master's in Marine engineering at

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<v Speaker 1>University cal Berkeley in nineteen thirty four. Was married and

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<v Speaker 1>the father of four children. Having narrowly avoided the attack

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<v Speaker 1>on Pearl Harbor, Rear Admiral Warder took charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>USS Sea Wolf and set out for the seas of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific to wreck havoc on Japanese shipping and quickly

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<v Speaker 1>became known as the Artist of submarining. Warder fought his

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<v Speaker 1>enemy hard, but he also respected and loved him. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>begin our deep dive into this story with Submarine warfare

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<v Speaker 1>Guru John Gorham. I attend a church here in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Bible Baptist Church, and one of our church members

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that she had an uncle named Freddie Warder. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, did you see Freddie Warder? And

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<v Speaker 1>she said yes. I said, you mean like us submarine

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Freddie Warder, and she says, yes, how'd you know

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows that. I said, oh no. To the contrary,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the ultimate submarine warrior from World War Two. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just it. Most people don't know this, but the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of tonnage that was sunk during World War two

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<v Speaker 1>enemy Japanese tonnage was done by the submarine fleet, what's

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Silent Service. These men paid the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>price but something like fifty five percent of all surface

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<v Speaker 1>supply shipping to the Japanese post war shipping and merchant

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<v Speaker 1>marine were sunk specifically by submarines. So these guys, to

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<v Speaker 1>me are the heroes. They were very small, efficient crew

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<v Speaker 1>that punched way beyond their weight. Fred Ward really did

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<v Speaker 1>punch way beyond his weight, even at family gatherings. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Fearless Freddie's cousin Anne water Lynn. I just know that

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<v Speaker 1>if there was going to be a brawl, Fred was gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, punch out the biggest man in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was gonna ghit him good the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't have to go back. Fred wasn't that big,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and his brother Frank was big, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had broad shoulders, and he was, you know, it looked

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<v Speaker 1>to me like he was at least a foot or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more taller than Fred. And Frank was an FBI agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred just knocked him out. He got to that first

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<v Speaker 1>punch and that was it. And Fred was gone and

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<v Speaker 1>Frank was down and out. And my mother said to

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<v Speaker 1>my father, John, why do your relatives always have to

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<v Speaker 1>pass out in our room? And my father said, pass

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<v Speaker 1>out nothing, that's a ko from Fred, it was he

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<v Speaker 1>knocked ye out. So it seemed to me that Fred

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<v Speaker 1>fought with men the way he fought the war. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the little guy that had to get the

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, and he had to get him with one

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<v Speaker 1>punch and knockout. He's another one of Fred's cousins, Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>four dice. Freddie was the oldest of my uncle Hugh's family.

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<v Speaker 1>They had eight children and he was the oldest. And

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie was Valdatorian. In his high school graduating class, I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>was always had having a big smile away. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a quick wit about him. His mother was Irish, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would make jokes about Catholics. And even though

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<v Speaker 1>he was Catholic him job. No one in our family

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<v Speaker 1>ever called Uncle Fred fearless or Freddie. He was known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Admiral Uncle Fred Fred. And when my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling particularly stern, Frederick, especially when he was teasing

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<v Speaker 1>her about drinking or about being Catholic or something. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sumba nineteen forty one, a date which will live

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<v Speaker 1>in infamy, the United States of America was suddenly and

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<v Speaker 1>deliberately attacked my naval of the forces of the Empire

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<v Speaker 1>of Japan. Here's former aide of Rear Admiral Fred Warder

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<v Speaker 1>don Almer. All the instructions that came out from the

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<v Speaker 1>Commander of the Pacific Fleet was first off, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement that the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only instructions they gave was conduct yourself accordingly. And

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<v Speaker 1>then shortly after a message came out saying engage attack

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<v Speaker 1>and sink all enemies shipping encountered. That was very simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in those days. The United States had already tried

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the Japanese from colonizing and invading the mainland

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<v Speaker 1>of China and Korea. A lot of misbehavior by the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese Empire in these areas that they quote unquote colonized,

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<v Speaker 1>They basically invaded them and abused the citizens of the

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<v Speaker 1>nations of Korea and China. And you've been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Fearless Freddie Water and it's just underappreciated

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<v Speaker 1>the role that the submarine played in World War two

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond, and the risks these guys, mostly guys, took.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all volunteer, always was and is because it

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<v Speaker 1>is unique duty, submarine duty and it's dangerous and well,

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<v Speaker 1>only certain types need apply. If you're claustrophobic, it is

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<v Speaker 1>not a job for you. When we come back, more

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<v Speaker 1>of the life of fearless Freddie Water, and we already

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, don't we. But wait till you hear the

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<v Speaker 1>our American Stories and the remarkable story of fearless Freddy Water.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's return to the story. Unto Greg England, here's Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Smith, author of Wolfpack, the American submarine strategy that

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<v Speaker 1>helped defeat Japan. In the late nineteen twenties, fred went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Submarine School in New London, Connecticut, and after

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<v Speaker 1>that he was junior officer on a number of US

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<v Speaker 1>Navy submarines, and in nineteen thirty nine he was the

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<v Speaker 1>commanding officer at the commissioning of the USSC Wolf and

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<v Speaker 1>remained commanding officer of the boat until nineteen forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>War clouds started gathering around nineteen forty and his submarine

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<v Speaker 1>was sent to the Pacific and eventually to the Philippines

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<v Speaker 1>along with a number of other US submarines. His submarine

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<v Speaker 1>was at the Cavetian Naval Yard in Manila Bay in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines. On December eight, nineteen forty one, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese attacked the Philippines, they destroyed a couple of submarines

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<v Speaker 1>not too far away from him. He got her underway

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<v Speaker 1>and left Manilla Bay and was sent on patrol in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Philippines off the coast of Luzon. The east

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Luzon, near a town called a Pari. He

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<v Speaker 1>saw a destroyer outside of Pari the harbor there and

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<v Speaker 1>he went to attack it. But then he stumbled on

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<v Speaker 1>a seaplane tender that was in the harbor, and he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to attack that and he got a really good

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<v Speaker 1>He made a really good approach. He had everything all

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<v Speaker 1>set up. He fired four torpedoes from his forward tubes

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<v Speaker 1>and none of them exploded, so he turned tail because

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<v Speaker 1>the destroyer was going to come after him. But they

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<v Speaker 1>set up for stern tubes to fire at the seaplane tender,

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<v Speaker 1>and they fired those and none of those exploded. And

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I've exploded that day was Fred Warder,

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<v Speaker 1>who was furious about the bad torpedoes, and that became

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<v Speaker 1>a scandal during World War two that for the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years of the war, the torpedoes did not

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<v Speaker 1>work reliably, and he was just fit to be tired

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Here is Rear Admiral Fred Warder. If we'd

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<v Speaker 1>had torpedoes, we could have made a damned flying effort,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did not have a good torpedo. Here again

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<v Speaker 1>is former aid of Rear Admiral Fred Warder, don Almer.

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<v Speaker 1>So Admiral Warder knew that the torpedoes were not working well,

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<v Speaker 1>so he actually went into a place called a devout

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<v Speaker 1>golf and there was a ship that was anchored there,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was firing torpedoes at this ship. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the herpedoes went under the ship. Okay, went up

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<v Speaker 1>on the beach and exploded. So that was one. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something I fault at the starpeedo's fall. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he fired two more and it was but against the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ship and they didn't explode, so that

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of confirmed that. And then another when

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<v Speaker 1>he fired and it was an erratic run called a

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<v Speaker 1>circular run. The ruter is going to lock over in

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<v Speaker 1>win position, it makes a circular run, and the circle

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<v Speaker 1>run would bring it right back to about where the

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<v Speaker 1>machinery compartment is. That the ship up. We did lose

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of submarines, by the way, but but not

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<v Speaker 1>to seawallf When Water anticipated this and he had his

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<v Speaker 1>sooner people listening, he knew it was a circle run.

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<v Speaker 1>He went down, so the torpedo passed overhead and came

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<v Speaker 1>back up again and he fired a couple more torpedoes

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<v Speaker 1>and he finished the ship off. Here again is Submarine

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<v Speaker 1>warfare Guru John Gorham. What they did was the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>pre set. If you've seen in the movies, they look

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty five gallon drums being rolled off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the tail of a corvette or a destroyer, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just basically loaded up with TNT. They would

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<v Speaker 1>drop to a certain predetermined level based on and the

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<v Speaker 1>sensor that was used was a depth sensor based on

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<v Speaker 1>water pressure, and then they would just blow up. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you had, if your submarine vessel was nearby, when

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<v Speaker 1>one of those blew up, the shock was such that

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<v Speaker 1>it could break open the hull or weaken it, or

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkle the skin and do all kinds of damage. The

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of anyone's submarines that were lost during the

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<v Speaker 1>war were lost to depth charges. He talked to me

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<v Speaker 1>one to him about the depth charge evasion, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way he put it to me is that, well, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to understand that what this Japanese destroyer, the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>destroyers doing is he's making a noise and he's listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the echo. Well, the more aspect that you show

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<v Speaker 1>that ship, the stronger the echo. So basically, what he

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<v Speaker 1>would always do is to turn and point directly toward

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<v Speaker 1>the ship, and that gave him the most narrow aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though it meant that he was going right

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<v Speaker 1>towards this guy that was trying to get him, the

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<v Speaker 1>echoes were just coming back strong. They would come back week,

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<v Speaker 1>which would indicate that the submarine was much further away.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guy would go overhead, and he'd go racing

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<v Speaker 1>out there and bang bang bang, the charges would go off,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that was the time. Then he would make

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<v Speaker 1>his course change or maneuver in order to put distance

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<v Speaker 1>between him and that destroyer. The strategy of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Navy had with our submarine service was to go

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<v Speaker 1>after the merchant rain because they were easy targets. They

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<v Speaker 1>were soft targets. We could sink them, they couldn't fight back.

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<v Speaker 1>It allowed our American submarine fleet to last a little longer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little more dangerous when you go after a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese warship because they can fight back. And the most

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<v Speaker 1>deadly warships were corvettes and destroyers because the destroyers are

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<v Speaker 1>very shallow draft vessels. If you attempt to fire at

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<v Speaker 1>a torpedo at it, at least at a corvette. A

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<v Speaker 1>corvette is even smaller than a destroyer. Corvettes are so

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<v Speaker 1>shallow that torpedoes go underneath, and you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a very good shot to take out a destroyer with

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<v Speaker 1>a torpedo. The vast majority of American submarine commanders wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tangle with the destroyer, but that's not the case with

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<v Speaker 1>frennye order. Submarine commanders were a breed apart. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them had a strong streak of independence. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like being pushed around by admirals and captains, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Submarine Service gave them that kind of freedom

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<v Speaker 1>because when a submarine left port, they had virtually no

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<v Speaker 1>contact with the admirals and the captains. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>up to the submarine commander. They didn't have anybody breathing

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<v Speaker 1>down their necks. Everybody was required to go on seven patrols,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally the custom was for a captain not to

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<v Speaker 1>press his luck. Just like in Vietnam when a guy

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<v Speaker 1>was down to his last month, they didn't go out

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<v Speaker 1>on any scary patrols. You don't want to risk a

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<v Speaker 1>guy's life if he's made it through a whole year

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<v Speaker 1>and Nam, you don't want to push your luck at

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute. But Warder is Warder, and he's determined

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<v Speaker 1>to make this very last of his patrol's count. He

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<v Speaker 1>was on his way back from the Palau Islands and

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<v Speaker 1>he discovered another anchorage or an area where there was

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of activity. He sailed in a torpedo and

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to sink a three thousand ton ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he sank a transport. This is very valuable because

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<v Speaker 1>not only is a tonage, but it's Japanese fighting troops

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<v Speaker 1>men that will never make it to shore and in

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<v Speaker 1>and threatened American lives. A seven thousand ton transport. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a tremendous prize that he got. Then again he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to torpedo again. On his way coming home,

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to torpedo another ship to the tune

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<v Speaker 1>of three thousand tons. So that means he sank thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand tons in one patrol. That's more than the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of sub captains ever sank in their entire career of

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<v Speaker 1>seven patrols in the South Pacific. How Freddie Warder got

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<v Speaker 1>that name Fearless Freddy. He was the last boat out

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<v Speaker 1>on patrol, leaving the Java Sea area, very low on fuel,

0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 1>very low on food provisions. The men were smoking coffee

0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.360
<v Speaker 1>grounds rolled in toilet paper because they'd been out of

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<v Speaker 1>cigarettes for a while. They're low on torpedoes. But Freddie

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<v Speaker 1>Warder wasn't about to go back to his base with

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<v Speaker 1>unspent torpedoes. Ridiculous. He'd never do that. He found out

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<v Speaker 1>that the Japanese had invaded the Christmas Islands about two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles south of Java, and he took his boat

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<v Speaker 1>down in that way. He decided he just patrolled the area,

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<v Speaker 1>cruise around, see what's going on. As he approached Flying

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Cove, that's the one where the Japanese had their anchorage.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an absolute submariner's dream. Four cruisers lined up

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, lined up in a row. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're going to hear the rest of

0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 1>this remarkable story. Thirteen thousand tons in one patrol, the

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<v Speaker 1>artist of submarine, the ultimate submarine warrior. And we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Fearless Freddie Warder. Again. This is our American stories,

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<v Speaker 1>always telling the stories of our fighting men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>More after these messages and we continue here with our

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.920
<v Speaker 1>American stories, and let's return to Greg Hangler and his

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<v Speaker 1>story about Rear Admiral Fearless Freddie Warder here again his

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<v Speaker 1>submarine warfare guru, John Gorham. He found out that the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese had invaded the Christmas Islands about two hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>south of Java, and he took his boat down in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. He decided he just patrolled the area, cruise

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<v Speaker 1>around see what's going on. As he approached Flying Fish Cove,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an absolute submarner's dream. Four cruisers lined up

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, lined up in a row. He got

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<v Speaker 1>in close and destroyers recognized him right away. He heard

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the painting. But he fired off four torpedoes at a

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<v Speaker 1>cruiser that was about a thousand yards away, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>about as close as a submarner will ever want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to his target. So he fired the four torpedoes.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as he was convinced that he had sunk

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that ship. He dove low, and his law book reports

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<v Speaker 1>that the Japanese were very effective in placing their depth charges.

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<v Speaker 1>So he stayed low, and he waited overnight the next

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<v Speaker 1>day and he slipped out of the cove. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>he slipped back in, and the Japanese, of course were

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<v Speaker 1>alerted to him. They were on patrol. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to maneuver in again and nail a second cruiser,

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<v Speaker 1>and again he was depth charged, fled the area, waited

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<v Speaker 1>until later on that afternoon he came back in and

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<v Speaker 1>he struck a cruiser a third time. Captain Water comes

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<v Speaker 1>in the very next day again because he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>finish off this juicy collection. He's down to just two

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<v Speaker 1>torpedoes left. They're on attack mode now because they're just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely patrolling the area. The water's boiling with ships going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth looking for him. He slips in because

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.919
<v Speaker 1>he's determined to use up his last torpedoes. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>more cruiser left. It's flying the dependent of the admiral

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<v Speaker 1>of the squadron, and he says, I'm gonna take this

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 1>guy out. So he fires his last two torpedoes at

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the cruiser and he hits them, but in the meantime,

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the destroyers got perilously close to him. He dove down

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<v Speaker 1>deep and he endured nine hours of depth charge from

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<v Speaker 1>multiple patrol boats, corvettes, destroyers. Unbelievable. That may be the

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<v Speaker 1>record for the United States Navy for this submarine fleet.

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<v Speaker 1>And during nine hours of well placed depth charging, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says in his log book, he says, my men

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<v Speaker 1>were really at the end of their rope, and he

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<v Speaker 1>realized he had to go and there's no point in

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<v Speaker 1>staying around. He had no more torpedoes. He's already taken

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<v Speaker 1>out all four of the Capitol ships that were anchored

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<v Speaker 1>at Flying Fish Cove, and he returned home in victory,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the way the men said, I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>you fearless Freddie from now on after what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>you do here again his former aid of Rear, Admiral

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Warner don Almer. He later came back. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they call a division commander or a wolfpack commander, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was after he was relieved by Lieutenant Commander Royce Gross.

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<v Speaker 1>He went into Christens Island because they knew the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>were going to come there in order to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the potassium. At the time, they were

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but abridge and all the people that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>To give you some feel for aber Warder, he got

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<v Speaker 1>there before the Japanese did, and there were facilities there,

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<v Speaker 1>dock and that sort of thing, and someone suggested that,

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<v Speaker 1>well maybe it's a good idea if we wouldn't here

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<v Speaker 1>and blow all that up. Well, now you got to

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<v Speaker 1>understand these this is a war going on, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are just Aboriginal people. You would think that you who

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<v Speaker 1>really cares about them. Wardered it and he said no,

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he said, we're not going to go in there and

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>blow anything up. He says, because these people need to

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<v Speaker 1>make a living there, and we don't want to hurt him.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess later on I learned from the person who

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<v Speaker 1>succeeded him in command of the Sea, Wolf Royce Gross,

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<v Speaker 1>that he sent a Japanese merchant ship not far from

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<v Speaker 1>that that place it went down. There were two survivors

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<v Speaker 1>in the water, and the water wanted to bring him

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<v Speaker 1>one board, and one of them blew himself up with

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<v Speaker 1>a hem grenade, and the other was he just refused

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<v Speaker 1>to come because the Japanese culture to time you do

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<v Speaker 1>a surrender, you died for the emperor. And the wards

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>figured he needed something, so he actually tossed him a

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>life jacket and a fifth of bourbon. The Japanese acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>within but from what water could tell that he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, carried out to sea and ultimately was lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Here again is Stephen Trent Smith, author of Wolfpack, the

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<v Speaker 1>American submarine strategy that helped the feet Japan. When he

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<v Speaker 1>was patrolling down in the Java Sea area, he sunk

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a Japanese ship and he surfaced and discovered a lot

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of Japanese just floating in the water without life jackets.

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So he had the crew his crew throw as many

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>life jackets as they could to help the surviving sailors.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw them as an enemy. I mean, the Japanese

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is truly an enemy because of what they had done,

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>particularly Pearl Harmor. But he believed that your enemy is

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<v Speaker 1>also your brother. To be a successful captain, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a crew that will obey you, and you

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>have to have a crew that respects you enough to

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<v Speaker 1>risk their lives. Because he isn't called fearless Freddie for nothing.

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>He would take risks that almost no other submarine captain didn't. Well,

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>some of them took risks and they just didn't live

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<v Speaker 1>to tell about it, which is understandable. That's what they

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<v Speaker 1>called a risk. But Freddie absolutely earned that title being

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<v Speaker 1>called fearless. He absolutely was fearless, and his men would

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<v Speaker 1>go to the gates of hell and back for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He had their utmost respect. Here again is Fearless Freddie's

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>cousin and ward Lynn. He really did believe in a

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:16.719
<v Speaker 1>hard war and an easy peace. He wanted the war

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<v Speaker 1>to be fought hard and fast and be over with

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<v Speaker 1>so that humanity could get back to being humanity. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I never really heard him say an ugly thing about anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard anyone say he said an ugly thing

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>about another person. If you were with him, you just

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>felt like you were the only person on earth. He

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 1>really made people feel his warmth idea. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>just fairly wanted him to be proud of you. You

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>were proud to be with him, and you wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to be proud of you. And he's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>fondest childhood memories. Actually, he went on to earn two

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Navy crosses, of course, a legion and hurt. He got

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<v Speaker 1>those Navy Commendation Medal, Navy Achievement Medal than the usual ones,

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<v Speaker 1>the Victory Medal, Philippine Service Medal, and the Agietic Pacific Medal.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I've read in his obituary and been told

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<v Speaker 1>by my father, Uncle Fred really didn't like the name

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>fearless Freddie because he was just as afraid as anybody

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>else on the submarine and his crew. And his crew

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<v Speaker 1>were as heroes whom he fondly referred to as his

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<v Speaker 1>beloved sons of you know what, And he felt and

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<v Speaker 1>said that the real heroes and war are those that

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<v Speaker 1>give their lives. Here again is Rear Admiral fred Water

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<v Speaker 1>said you the name fearless, Well, I know I did

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<v Speaker 1>are one. I'm scared to row, I mean RAI shooge gated.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared. Fred Warder became Assistant Chief of Naval Operations

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<v Speaker 1>for Undersea Warfare in nineteen fifty five. He commanded the

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<v Speaker 1>Submarine Force Atlantic Fleet in nineteen fifty seven and retired

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty two after two years as Commandant of

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth Naval District in New Orleans. He retired in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two and died at his home on February first,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand. He was ninety five years old. I'm Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Hengler and this is our American stories and great job

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>is always to Greg Hengler and special thanks to dang

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn Productions for allowing us access to the one of

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<v Speaker 1>a kind interviews from their documentary Fearless Freddie. Checked out

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer and the film at Fearless Freddie movie dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Fearless freddiemovie dot com. And what a story we heard. Indeed,

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>this Annapolis grad class of nineteen twenty five, married, father

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of four and a leader and in the end a

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>soldier underground. He rose above his fear and led anyway.

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's why he was the man. He was the

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>artist of submarine in the Ultimate Submarine Warrior, Freddie Water.

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<v Speaker 1>Fearless Freddie Water, his story here on our American story.