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Speaker 2: Well, Nelly last week was going for six in a row.

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Speaker 6: Both of you guys spent the day watching golf. I

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Speaker 6: Sam, welcome the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm a fan, I've listened to it.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of people say you'd be great, Dubsy.

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Speaker 6: Did it happened? Did it?

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. And he's he's always been a little

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Speaker 3: But yeah, for me, I don't I don't see him

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Speaker 6: Still I can still think about it.

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Speaker 5: I was like, this is this is two guys who

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Speaker 5: I mean, I get that, like the French are particularly

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Speaker 6: But I feel like, what do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: I would have given. I mean I would.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the wildcard list. I don't know who most

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Speaker 3: If there's some like guys in their mid twenties rank

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Speaker 2: you know, and have that great story to remember and

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Speaker 2: give the eye break. I mean, he's just had tremendously

443
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 2: bad luck with these you know, this risk injury that's

444
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,479
Speaker 2: cost him so much. And yeah, I think that they

445
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,440
Speaker 2: should have absolutely given him to But it's so French not.

446
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 3: To do it, which you're kind of like too.

447
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Speaker 1: If you're gonna be French, be French, like.

448
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,159
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I do I do want to

449
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 5: you know, one thing that's really fun because we tend

450
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 5: to vacillate from like the wildly non specific to the

451
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 5: wildly granular here on the podcast, sort of depending on.

452
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Speaker 6: Who we're talking to.

453
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,920
Speaker 5: Like it is taking for granted that everyone understands book

454
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Speaker 5: wild cards are what they are and why they are

455
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Speaker 5: and I and I guess just to ask you guys, like,

456
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 5: are wild cards about developing new talent and to your point, Sam,

457
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,439
Speaker 5: giving like young hungry players from your country or reciprocals

458
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 5: from the other Slam countries an opportunity to get good

459
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 5: fast or get some points fast. That seems like a

460
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 5: way or and or are they a way to get viewers? Yeah,

461
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Speaker 5: because you're seeing Venus Williams for the last time maybe,

462
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Speaker 5: or in this case.

463
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Speaker 3: Leonardo DiCaprio wants a while current in the French Open

464
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Speaker 3: men's draw, you give it to Leo.

465
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the match sells out and you know that's right. Uh.

466
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 5: And obviously there's a lot of like, you know, equation

467
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Speaker 5: that goes into all that stuff. But something tells me that,

468
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Speaker 5: you know, yeah, it's probably not a bunch of people

469
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Speaker 5: on the bubble who are otherwise you know, going to

470
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Speaker 5: provide for great Maybe some of them are I don't know.

471
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Speaker 5: I again, I know some of the names, but not

472
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Speaker 5: any of them.

473
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Speaker 1: No up the stadium there though, That's why it's surprising.

474
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Speaker 6: Actually, that's a good point. That's true.

475
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, I just feel like they should have

476
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Speaker 2: done it and we'll see.

477
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Speaker 5: What up and well, the same thing is, I want

478
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Speaker 5: to see them the team play a little bit.

479
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Speaker 4: I just agree.

480
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Speaker 2: I think back to Verev, I actually think that he

481
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: is one of the favorites for the French Open.

482
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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.

483
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 2: Like this guy has said, if he hadn't heard his

484
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: ankle against Nadal, he felt like he could have won

485
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: the French Open that year, like he really felieves it now.

486
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 2: Finishing the job depending on who he's playing in the

487
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: final is a whole different story. Right, So if he

488
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 2: gets the opportunity to like close the door, I don't know,

489
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: the service still vulnerable.

490
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 4: The forehand, to me is still vulnerable.

491
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Speaker 2: I don't know why like to be low in the

492
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: tie break for example, he played I know he's a lefty,

493
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: so it's more he's more inclined to hit that lefty

494
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Speaker 2: like cross court fourhand into.

495
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Speaker 4: The back end. But dude, like, you know that the guy's.

496
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Speaker 2: Back end is literally arguably one of the greatest back

497
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Speaker 2: ends of all time, and you're playing to his back

498
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: end under pressure, Like, what are you doing? Like a

499
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 2: hit a pickleball forehand to the guy's forehand and just

500
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: let him beat you with the forehand. I don't understand it.

501
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: I just I don't know anyway, But I do still

502
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Speaker 2: think he's one of the favorites. There's no question about it.

503
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Speaker 4: Yes, do I think he wins?

504
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Speaker 2: No?

505
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Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, So you think I'll have a deep brand.

506
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Speaker 5: I just say I haven't watched that. I'm sure we

507
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Speaker 5: all did. Semi against Raffa where he was losing. There's

508
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Speaker 5: just not where he wins that match. There's no where

509
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Speaker 5: he wins that match. I know he think he was

510
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Speaker 5: the best he'd ever played. I guess in that, Matt, people.

511
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 3: Like you've had to believe either you don't have it.

512
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: You say that just so you look good.

513
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Speaker 4: But no, I mean, look look at Johnny.

514
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: You know Johnny isn't I had him two sets to

515
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Speaker 2: love and he's still Yeah.

516
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Speaker 5: I mean, look at what happened in the French Open

517
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 5: finals multiple times, team and Citipas against you know Novak,

518
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 5: it's like the same thing.

519
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Speaker 6: It's like you're it's not it's not over until three

520
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 6: out of five.

521
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Speaker 1: Is just like a different ball game.

522
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Speaker 6: It's different, Sam.

523
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you before we get off the

524
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Speaker 2: guys at some point, but I want to ask you

525
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Speaker 2: about Runa, like what's happening with him? Because he is

526
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: looking like dog do you do right now? I mean,

527
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Speaker 2: this is the guy that last, you know, the last

528
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Speaker 2: couple of years. It's like, okay, he's the next one.

529
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Speaker 2: He's going to be the three. There's going to be Alcarez,

530
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Speaker 2: it's going to be you know, Runa, it's going to

531
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Speaker 2: be Sinner. These are the three next big guys. And

532
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Speaker 2: Runa has played like shit, what is going on with him?

533
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Speaker 3: It's been it's a little bit like like Novak. I

534
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Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what the reasoning is, but

535
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Speaker 3: he has played awful the last few months. He's you know,

536
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Speaker 3: in these draws where there's you know a lot of

537
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: openings here and there.

538
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Speaker 1: He's not taking advantage of him.

539
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Speaker 3: He's losing the guy as he was beating in twenty

540
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Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, you know

541
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Speaker 3: maybe maybe. I'm sure it's mental. He's he's a little

542
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Speaker 3: bit of a loose cannon at times.

543
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Speaker 1: I love him.

544
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Speaker 6: I love him so much.

545
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: I love him too.

546
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 6: I really like it.

547
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Speaker 1: I like the attitude. I'm cheering for him. I hope

548
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: he gets it together the beau. The beauty of the

549
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: tennis is you get a fresh start every week. That's true.

550
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, in my career, there was plenty of

551
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Speaker 3: times where I was playing terrible. Playing terrible, you would

552
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Speaker 3: like win a first rounded tournament and like it snaps

553
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: you out of something and you win the tournament, right, Yeah,

554
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Speaker 3: you know, I could see him. He's playing, he's playing

555
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Speaker 3: awful for his standards. I could see him going to

556
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Speaker 3: the French Open, winning a tough first rounder and then

557
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Speaker 3: something clicks and he makes a run.

558
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Speaker 1: But but yeah.

559
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Speaker 3: I honestly, I'm not sure technically what's going wrong. But

560
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Speaker 3: he's got he's got not a lot of confidence and

561
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Speaker 3: he's playing for them.

562
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Speaker 4: I do not understand why he went back to Patrick.

563
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Speaker 6: Yeah that's what I was going to bring, Like, what are.

564
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: You doing, bro?

565
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: Like it didn't work the first time, it's not helping

566
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: you this time, and you.

567
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: Know it's like Patrick. No, it's like you.

568
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: Need No, that's all.

569
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Speaker 4: That's all I'm gonna say.

570
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Speaker 2: I think he picked the wrong horse, the wrong jockey, okay,

571
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: to like guide him through his career.

572
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Speaker 4: I do, I do, I'm not.

573
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Speaker 2: I was not a fan of that choice of him

574
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Speaker 2: to go back to Patrick moritugling.

575
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Speaker 6: Sam.

576
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this, because you probably

577
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 5: don't work on Twitter as much as Renee and I do.

578
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 5: But there was a moment where there was rampant speculation

579
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Speaker 5: that Burger Runa was going to continue his embrace of

580
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Speaker 5: a strong, strong female energy in the in the form

581
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Speaker 5: of Renee steps.

582
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Speaker 3: Well, what, Renee, what would you tell him right now?

583
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: How would you get I.

584
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Speaker 2: Would like I would work with him tomorrow.

585
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 6: What would you tell him? What would you.

586
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's for its tennant, I would I

587
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know at this point.

588
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 4: I think it takes a lot hes hear.

589
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: You just tell him he sucks and he's got no hope,

590
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and that'll just fuel something.

591
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: No.

592
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: I would definitely not listen, I really do believe. Listen,

593
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: his talent level is through the roof. But you know,

594
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: the forehands a little funk and I mean, he just

595
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: needs to learn how to play tennis better. Like I

596
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: feel like he's lost a little bit on the court,

597
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't really have a game. It feels like

598
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't really have these great game plans when he

599
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: goes out there, Like what of his strengths?

600
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Speaker 4: What does he play to?

601
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: You know, he's young, he's athletic, but I just feel

602
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: like he doesn't really know what his go to stuff is,

603
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, what's your go to

604
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: stuff that you rely on every point that you can

605
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: recreate every single point over and over and over. And

606
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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's a little bit lost. That's

607
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: what he looks like to me, Like Darren Headlights.

608
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: Yep, No, I think that's accurate. It's not a clear

609
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: game plan. He's coming up with stuff on the fly. Yeah,

610
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: and that's usually not a recipe for success.

611
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 5: No, he looks like an athlete out there, but he

612
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily look like a like an organized point constructing

613
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 5: tennis player at all times, which is probably why I

614
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: like watching him so much, because I truly don't know

615
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen. And also I love fat like his

616
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: mom's always like sneaking a cigarette behind the grand stand,

617
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 5: like cameras looking for her.

618
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a I can't see me right now,

619
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: but he can call me.

620
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: I am available.

621
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Speaker 5: But but I'm so glad you brought that up, Sam.

622
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 6: Thank you.

623
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally forgot about that. But listen.

624
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Speaker 2: But speaking of the other end of the spectrum, not dull,

625
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Rafah. Is he gonna play

626
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: the French? Like, what do you think is gonna happen here?

627
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Because he looked so bad. I mean he got he

628
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: barely got through this first round against you know, essentially

629
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Speaker 2: a nobody and you know he just.

630
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: Got crushed, crushed.

631
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Speaker 2: By whom he So, you know, does he want to

632
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: go out like playing like crap at the French or

633
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: you want to just fuck it?

634
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 4: Who cares?

635
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: I hope he plays, even if he goes out first

636
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: round and loses to let's call it a Hercock's first

637
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: round one two and one. Like as a tennis fan,

638
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: like I want to see what he embraces, like from

639
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: like the crowd on center corps as he walks off,

640
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: will be a thirty minute celebration when people be crying,

641
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Like I as a fan, I need the closure.

642
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: I need to see like how it's.

643
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 6: Going to end and there's no way.

644
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: But he as like the persona that he is wouldn't

645
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 5: want to have his last moment in battle on a court.

646
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: He's not the guy who would show up for the

647
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 5: victory lap like, and you know, it was cool to

648
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 5: see the Rome crowd assembled and he's waving to everybody.

649
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: I mean, it was like sort of, oh.

650
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 4: My god, did you see that crowd?

651
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: It was like the.

652
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 6: Reason it was sort of like Pulpe. It was nuts.

653
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

654
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: And also I loved it and I will be for

655
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: sure one of those people.

656
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 6: Crying we do. Yeah, for sure. I haven't always loved Raffa,

657
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 6: but now.

658
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: You can't just walk away into the dark now, like

659
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: he owes it to the world to like walk out

660
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: there and like no one.

661
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Will care if he if he gets pressed for a friend,

662
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

663
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Speaker 4: He cannot do with Steffi Graft I just be gone.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it.

665
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: We like, like I said, the world needs closure to

666
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: the Rafael and Theadell story and it has to end

667
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: like at rolling Eros at the Olympics, right, I don't know.

668
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: I don't even think he's gonna make it at the Olympics.

669
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Speaker 6: You guys, well you gonna.

670
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: He'll need a wild card, which he would of.

671
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: Course it would get, but I mean as fun as

672
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: it would be to watch him and Carlos play doubles together,

673
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: which like maybe that you know, Carlos could like cover

674
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 5: most of the court. I don't know, Like it just doesn't.

675
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: It truly doesn't look like bad is going to allow

676
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: him to make it to July. I feel like the

677
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: end of this month is like the most we can know.

678
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also feel like the Doll, like the French

679
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: Open will be like his moment, that's all about him.

680
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: That's his last tournament the Olympics. There's so many other storylines.

681
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that was the Doll's last match, but

682
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: like we got women's gymnastics and then we've got this

683
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: other we got track other events that can almost overshadow it.

684
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: We're like the French is like this is his state.

685
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 6: Here's a question though.

686
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: I actually do think he's gonna pull Stevian Graff in

687
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: one way, which is I think he's going to disappear.

688
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be like on his boat and

689
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 5: like just not be.

690
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 6: I think you're right anywhere near tennis.

691
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: First, I don't know.

692
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Speaker 2: Did you see the Louis Vuitton little thing that he's doing.

693
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: With ls I did? Everybody saw that.

694
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 5: It was nice, they had the little romance and the Dolomites.

695
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: But I just think he's going to keep hisystance from tennis.

696
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: I don't think he I don't think he wants to

697
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: be the elder statesman who's going around traveling on the

698
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: tex I think.

699
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 6: He wants to be.

700
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Speaker 3: I see him disappearing for five years and then him

701
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: and Roger doing like a worldwide like exhibition tour like China,

702
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: South Africa, Madison Square Garden three, like a ten stop

703
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: world tour where they were two forty three year olds

704
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: are battling each other.

705
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: I know, I mean physically, I don't know if Rafa

706
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: can do that in five years time. I mean he

707
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: thinks he's Buddy's ship. Now wait till he gets doing.

708
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: You know's mid forward A good point. Trust me when

709
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: I tell you that, Sam, you're not day yet.

710
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sam, you're not even forty.

711
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying.

712
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look I got an achilles injury now,

713
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: and like something else will go soon.

714
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to catch up.

715
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam's been sleep I've been hanging out in a

716
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: hyperbaric chamber, which is to this day, the coolest thing

717
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: I've ever done.

718
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm want to show you once my transportation. Look at

719
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: this is my transportation the last few weeks.

720
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 6: You can go a little people.

721
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: What people cannot see is Sam's little mini mini scooter

722
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: that he puts his knee on and scoots down the street.

723
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Anyone that's had an achilles or seen in somebody when achilles, No,

724
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Speaker 2: it's a little scooter that you're talking about.

725
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: You must have.

726
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: I do have to mention your Your social media is

727
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 5: quite a great follow because you the little scooter has

728
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: made lots of appearances. And really, before we get to

729
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: the women, which I am not that excited to talk about,

730
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: mainly because I don't love the outcome of this particular tournament,

731
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 5: although I'm happy about the revelry, can you just tell

732
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: us the story about you wearing a giant horse head

733
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 5: and a trench coat and dancing shirtless like what.

734
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: I I it was.

735
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Speaker 6: It's one of the best things I've ever seen.

736
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: I remember remember Vine. Yeah, Vine was TikTok before TikTok.

737
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: Witter short video format.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was maybe like ten years ago, just living

739
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: in an apartment with my buddies, and like Vine was big.

740
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I was like, we had all these viral like Vine videos.

741
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: And I also don't know why that we got the

742
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: horse heads. We just had them in the house because

743
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: they were funny, and that idea came up and we

744
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: just did it and then it just kind of like

745
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: went out.

746
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: And it was turned into what it did for the Vine.

747
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: We did it for Vine back in the day, and

748
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: then Vine disappeared. Vian had about a shelf life of

749
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: five minutes.

750
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 5: Vine was truly as a I say, this is both

751
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: a nerd and somebody who spends a lot of time

752
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: as a as a digitally unfortunately experienced journalists like I

753
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: am now digitally challenged. It was a beautiful moment. It

754
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: was too beautiful to live.

755
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 6: Vine was a perfect Vine.

756
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I was a viner early that it just like I

757
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything with it.

758
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: But I don't know, man, maybe if TikTok gets banned,

759
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: they'll bring it back and this will give a second. Okay,

760
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: so the women, let's talk about the women.

761
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: I love.

762
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 6: I love the fact that we have this great rivalry.

763
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 6: It is fire nice. I get it.

764
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: I just I don't like the ice winning more than

765
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: the fire because the fire is so fun.

766
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 6: And I just.

767
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 7: Wait, Caitlin, why do you always have to be like,

768
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 7: just calm down, calm the farm. I'm arguably one of

769
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 7: the greatest clay court players ever. Okay, let's put egos

770
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 7: on tech is arguably one of the greatest clay court

771
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 7: players ever.

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: I can if you look at.

773
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Speaker 6: The way that on this podcast, Yes, I mean.

774
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Speaker 2: This is somebody who is dominating on this surface as much.

775
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: It's getting to the maybe not to the rough extent,

776
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: but you know she's getting to those numbers of like

777
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: pull the way I predict. I predict that she can

778
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: win upwards of eight French Opens easily. I think he

779
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: can win eight Grand Slams alone at the French Open.

780
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: And don't worry about Sabalanka because she's going to be

781
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: back the hard court. So when you look at the

782
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: way that she's played on clay, Sabalanca, that's only going

783
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: to make her more confident on grass. It's only going

784
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: to make them more confident on hard court. But you

785
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: got to give it to Sablenka and getting to the

786
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: final in the Firth place, because when we talk about

787
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Speaker 2: the fact that Sabolenka went three sets against Volinets in

788
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Speaker 2: her first round and then you know, takes out Yustromska

789
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: pretty easily and then should have lost that Smitzelina. Smizelena

790
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: had like the easiest little slice back and she tried

791
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: to hit like a dropshot off it on match point

792
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: in the third set and dumped it in the bottom

793
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: of it. It was like a chip today that went

794
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: like one foot. It was like, oh my god. So,

795
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Saballenka even getting through to the quarters was

796
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: an epic effort. So I mean, don't worry, don't worry.

797
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Eager again dominates. But before we get to all that, Sam,

798
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: what did you think about the ladies tournament?

799
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: It was great And I was impressed with Saballenka too,

800
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: because even up and then in the quarter she beats

801
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: us to the Penko and then in the semi she

802
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: beats Colin. She kind of like got it together in

803
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: the quarters in the semis to beat two informed players.

804
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but but like you said, Renee, I'm not

805
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: going to put a number on how many French openings.

806
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna win.

807
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: But I think when it's all said downe, She'll be

808
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: the greatest female click court player.

809
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: Ever, better than ever.

810
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Christy might have a word to say about that, Christy.

811
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Speaker 1: I don't tell Christy I said that, but I think

812
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Speaker 1: I think.

813
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: You could just put her behind Christy because Christy like

814
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: barely lost the match on clay.

815
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know why.

816
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Ever, stats as well as you.

817
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: You know everything, ever stats are better than Rappa's in

818
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: terms of winning percentage.

819
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: Oh all right, yeah, that's amazing. Track my previous statement,

820
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: I think.

821
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Speaker 6: I think you're you're your sentiment is.

822
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Just such an athlete.

823
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: Her footwork and the way she moves around the court

824
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: is incredible. She's in perfect position every ball, and I

825
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: really think just her movement in her like athletic prowess

826
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: around the court is so much better than every other

827
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: female player right now, And like that's why she dominates her.

828
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: It's her skill of movement on clay is unreal. It's unbelievable,

829
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: her open stance, backhand, foehand, whatever it is, sliding to

830
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: the ball, being able to retreat back into the court.

831
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: So many of these women, particularly like a sable Anca

832
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: or whatever, they just overplay because they have to they

833
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: feel like they have to just overplay every single ball

834
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: to get it past her because their ability to be

835
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: able to run the ball down and slide the way

836
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: she does on clay is unmatched on the tour. It's

837
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: incredible how well she plays. But you know, I mean

838
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: there was some like Maria Zakari. I thought she was

839
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: getting a bit kicked on and she lost as a

840
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: ranker like four and one in that match against as

841
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: a ranker, Like, I mean, Vika is a great player,

842
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: but that's the smacking.

843
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: So there were some players like Daniel.

844
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: Collins like what she's doing right now, it's unreal.

845
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I love her. A Colins fan for like a decade,

846
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: ever since she showed up.

847
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: I mean, the best I ever did was Mzbles, but

848
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: the fact that she carried the ni vibe to pro

849
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 5: tennis and like got more intense.

850
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: I love it.

851
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: I love it.

852
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 6: I've always loved it.

853
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: I saw her, I'm going back, probably ten years ago

854
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: at Indian Wells. She lost the match and I saw

855
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: her in the parking lot where the players park just

856
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: absolutely yelling at her coach or boyfriend after the match.

857
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, I am such a fan of this girl,

858
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: right now way the fire at her is so fun

859
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: and she's real.

860
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: And like, yeah, she's real. I watched her place Sabalanka

861
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: at the US Open in Round one probably four or

862
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: five years ago, and like half of the like half

863
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: of Florida was at the match, and Sabalanka was kind

864
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: of unknown because she hadn't made any grand time. Finally

865
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: yet I think she just had that great Davis Cup

866
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: or JK Cup appearance and like it was the Thunderdome

867
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: and it was like court like eight or something, and

868
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 5: it was just like, oh shit, like this is this

869
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: She's not afraid of anybody, like she'd she'd already beaten

870
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: Venus and kind of like announced herself on the pro

871
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 5: tour at Indian Wells and like you know, the hype

872
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 5: was building. But like Danielle, I'm just so I'm just

873
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: like happy she gets to have this like moment as

874
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 5: she's going out, like yeah, she's going out absolutely swinging.

875
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: She's going out collecting as much money as she can.

876
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: Well she did and as and I will attest to

877
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: this girl, make that cash while you can, because it

878
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: don't come flying at you once you're finished playing.

879
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: If you play pickle ball, keeps coming on.

880
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that man, I'd have to be like full closed

881
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: or like desolated to go out in a pickleball.

882
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: I think Colin thrives on an environment to where the

883
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: crowd's against her. I think she wants to play in

884
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: that more than like the crowd for her.

885
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, she comes back to the US Open and everybody's

886
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: like on their feet cheering for her, like.

887
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: It'll be really interesting.

888
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 5: Maybe she'll have a no back moment and she'll just

889
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: like absorb the love and like it'll s freak her out.

890
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

891
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: How many times, Sam, have you wanted, particularly in Europe

892
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: where the crowd can get a little bit like you know,

893
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: chatty or in your faith, how many times have you

894
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: wanted to look at someone in the crowd and be like, Oh,

895
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: you get out here, you get out here and do this.

896
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: And the fact that she like goes after someone in

897
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: the crowds like why don't you get out here?

898
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Do this?

899
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I fucking love you. I want

900
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: to I want that printed on a shirt.

901
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: Why can you get out here?

902
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: I love That's like, yeah, she has no fear of anyone.

903
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 6: No, It's incredible. I love it.

904
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: I do have to say I I have not like

905
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: she's historically been the world's greatest Cocoa fan either, because

906
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 5: I don't love defensive players, which is why I like

907
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: a you know, a Sblanca or like somebody who's kind

908
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: of nuts uh and.

909
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 6: Goes for Brooke.

910
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 5: But I was really happy to see Coco having a

911
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: good spring. I feel like she's looking quite good. I

912
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: I I'm not surprised she didn't. She looked better than

913
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: she's rounding in a form of the French openers.

914
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: When I'm getting all right.

915
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: I think you need to just calm the farm on

916
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: this one.

917
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 6: Okay, No, I'm over stating it.

918
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: As much as I.

919
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Love Cocoa and I love Coco, oh my god, this

920
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: kid just every time, like Bush, she's so professional, she

921
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: does everything. You know, this is the Grand Clime champion.

922
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: But Sam, I don't know about how you feel about this,

923
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: but her the is so.

924
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: Bad right now. I mean, I'm just going to say that,

925
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: like her first serve when she goes after.

926
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: And it hits it in, it's massive, right, We're talking

927
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: about one hundred and twenty miles an hour. Like, there's

928
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: not a lot of chicks that can do that, right,

929
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: she can get up above one hundred and twenty. But

930
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: if you're not getting your first thrt, if she's not

931
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: getting her first dirve in the court, I'm like, if

932
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: i'm coaching her, I am sitting there and my sinker

933
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: is tired of anything with her hitting second serf, Like

934
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: what is going on with the second serve? And why

935
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: are they not breaking this second serve down to make

936
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: it better? The ball toss is way too far in front,

937
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: it's too far to the right, Like she's getting no pick.

938
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: What's going on?

939
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I mean, I'm more on the someone

940
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: who had a good serve, Like I'm living and dying

941
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: with the fastball. I want her to keep going after

942
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: the first serve because, like you said, she can hit

943
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: it over one hundred and twenty miles an hour, which

944
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: most most of the girls can't. And if you're on

945
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: the other side of the net, you're like, all right,

946
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't make the first serve. It's coming fast.

947
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: Having said that, yeah, the number one thing she'd be

948
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: work she should be working on all day every day,

949
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: which maybe she is, is the second serve and just

950
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: finding that like comfortable rhythm. How can I get a

951
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: good steady kickserve in that I can move around the

952
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: box and hit it ninety miles an hour because once.

953
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: The ball comes into play.

954
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: She's a pretty big favorite against most of the players.

955
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, I don't know what I and

956
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: on this surface. If you are double faulting on clay,

957
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: you should just walk off the court because you know,

958
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: it's the one surface that you can get away with

959
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: maybe hitting an okay surf as long as there's a kickout,

960
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: because it's really hard to come from the outside of

961
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: a court, particularly on the second court, you know, and

962
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: just like take off and get cover the open court.

963
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Right on clay, you've got to be a little bit

964
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: more patient. You'll see players just like make the return

965
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: back deep. They do it on all surfaces, but particularly

966
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: on clay. There's no reason why you can't get the

967
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: second serf in the court. She's losing matches and games,

968
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: and God love it because she fights through so many

969
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: matches where she's like double faulding like more than ten

970
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: times a match and she's still winning the match because

971
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: she's got a Heartlet's like fights and every other back

972
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: end possibly the best one on the tour. And but

973
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: the second serve. It's like it's costing her so many games.

974
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: She's losing her serve and then she's breaking. But it's

975
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: like if she could control the second serve and it's

976
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: just you know, and you saw it against Egagas, is

977
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: not gonna she's not gonna, not gonna lose to somebody

978
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: like that.

979
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen this in the past, like I remember

980
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: like Khu's Netsova had trouble back in the day, and

981
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: Ivanovitch and even Sabalnka, like it seems like like the

982
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: girls sometimes will go through stretches where like the serve goes.

983
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: Off for months at a time.

984
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: It's true they find it again, but it's hopefully she

985
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: can find it quick before the French Open starts.

986
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: Well, Ivanovitch, it was the slice, so nobody taught her.

987
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: Well Vanovitch had the yips on her ball tops like that.

988
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that slice would just go like she would toss

989
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 5: it into like the next court and like just totally

990
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: excited ft Sometimes it was brutal, Oh man, I remember

991
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: that because of that.

992
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 6: That's of a run too, where you're just like I

993
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: can't watch this, it's a train wreck.

994
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: It's true, quick would get a bit shot.

995
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: But kuz Netsteva, when she was playing well, had a great.

996
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: Kick serve, which is why she was such a good

997
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: player player on clay. But like, that's the thing about Eager,

998
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: Eager's second serve, Like that's from the final today, her

999
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: second serve, she was winning way more than Sabaalanca. And

1000
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: it's because she has that continuity of being able to

1001
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: hit that beautiful kick serve which jumps up high and

1002
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: it's very difficult for people to attack it. But and

1003
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: that's the shot that Coco needs to have. And you

1004
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: can see her anxiety, that's what I see. You can

1005
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: see her anxiety when she misses the first serve. It's like,

1006
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: oh God, am I going to get this serve in

1007
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: the court. And you know a lot of the girls,

1008
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: they really they really crushed the second serve. If it's

1009
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: not if it's.

1010
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: Not hit well, Vetus Williams would stand seven feet inside the.

1011
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: Face lave sometimes Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I do

1012
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: want to mention Sophie Kennon had a good win over

1013
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: on but also struggling big time. We're talking about somebody

1014
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: who's not played well over the last fields like six months.

1015
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: So there's a few.

1016
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Women that had great years the loft of youth and

1017
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: they had struggling this year.

1018
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: And the women right now it's it's IgA and and

1019
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: Sablanca or the field like just like it used to

1020
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: be like Roger Rafa Rock, Yeah, Rafa Novak at every

1021
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: tournament's like goes through the field. It's like flip now

1022
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: and like the men's is wide open and the girls

1023
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: are those two or everyone else.

1024
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe on.

1025
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: But it is like it is the field and like

1026
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 5: those two or three people and in test flip, I do.

1027
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: I do think Like with Coco, what's interesting is that,

1028
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: you know, she got so good so fast, and the

1029
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: game had like significant shortcomings like that western grip that

1030
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: we talked about on the forehand and the serve. But

1031
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: it seems like she kind of fixed the forehand while

1032
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 5: still playing, Like she didn't do a technique change where

1033
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: she like went away and then came back. And I

1034
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 5: wonder if she could like fix the serve while still playing,

1035
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: or if she would need to take a bit of

1036
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 5: a sabbatical, like I don't know.

1037
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Beforehand, she can get away with

1038
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: a little because she can hit that high loopy, which

1039
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: for anyone as Sam knows, it's like when someone's hitting

1040
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: the back end flat and hard and then the forehand

1041
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: is high and loopy and with spin. That's a great

1042
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: like mix up of spins on the court. And Andrea

1043
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Pekovich has talked about how difficult it was to play

1044
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: her when she was hitting the forehand well, because you

1045
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: had one spin on one side and then flat on

1046
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 2: the other. The problem is to get away with maybe

1047
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: missing a short forehand because she's so athletic, she can

1048
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: run down the next ball. But if you don't get

1049
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: the second serve in the court, it doesn't matter.

1050
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: So it's second serve for.

1051
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Me is hurting her big time right now, and you

1052
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: can see it in her when she gets a little

1053
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: bit nervous on it. And I want to shout out

1054
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Madison Keith.

1055
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: Maddie's had a great.

1056
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks.

1057
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: Started the year, had injury.

1058
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: But she's starting to find her form, starting to have

1059
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: some good wins. She's always that perennial sort of like

1060
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Ken she win a Grand Slam, like she has the game.

1061
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: But you know, IgA just took care of her comfortably

1062
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: on this service. I have to say, you know, when

1063
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: eager and Sabolenka are in the final this week. Everyone

1064
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, is it going to re revenge after Madrid?

1065
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no way, because in Madrid there's a

1066
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: little bit of yeah, a little bit of altitude and

1067
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: helps the big service and it helps the big ball

1068
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: flat flat ball strikers that go for it, and that

1069
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: is of course Sabolenca, whereas eager on the clay in Rome,

1070
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: you could tell she was so much more comfortable and

1071
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: you're going to see that from her in Paris.

1072
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: So I mean, just your.

1073
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 6: Sent far in a way favorite, right, Yeah.

1074
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm just like you never have two unbelievable finals like

1075
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: back to back and like for the manner of them,

1076
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: and like I think people they see that final Madrid

1077
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: like it might have been the greatest woman's final they've

1078
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: had all year and in the last few years, and

1079
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: then you've got to repeat a couple of days ago

1080
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 3: in Rome and you're like anticipating it again.

1081
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: It's just that's not how the world works.

1082
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: Like you're not getting back to back like unbelievable you know,

1083
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: finals between the same players. But Renee nailed it, Like

1084
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: Madrid always favors the players that can hit it. A

1085
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: little harder. It's the one clay court place that I

1086
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: had some decent results. John Newsdor would have decent results.

1087
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: Sabalanca can hit the serve as hard as anyone.

1088
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair one so different Rome.

1089
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: It's always like it rains all the time in Rome.

1090
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: The clay's heavy. Yeah yeah, it just it turns the

1091
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 3: pendulum and Egas favors so much.

1092
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make a wild and insane prediction, which is

1093
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 5: mostly just self serving. I really like what I'm seeing

1094
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 5: out of onsubur social feed. She started a challenge where

1095
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 5: I won't give it away, but if you go on

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00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 5: her Instagram, she's now challenging people to do a few

1097
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 5: tappity taps with the feet and then get it into

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00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: a serve.

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Speaker 6: I want to see her having fun.

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00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 5: I don't think Osbur has had fun in a tennis

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00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: court basically since she lost that Wimbledon final maybe two

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00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 5: years ago. And for me, having a fun osterbr is

1103
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 5: a relaxed onstubber who's a creative ostubber, And I don't know,

1104
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 5: like maybe there's a little bit of something going on

1105
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: where the results of you have to materialize on the court.

1106
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: But at least she's not weeping at the end of

1107
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: matches and so like, maybe this is just me more

1108
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 5: optimism than realism, but I would like to see an

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00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: osuber smile on the court and do really well because

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: I feel like tennis is better when when that happens.

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00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: Totally Well, the coolest girl out there, I don't see

1112
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 3: her anymore of our idea. I love chatting with her.

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00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: And here's a question.

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00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: Do you think we'll see an American complete that challenge?

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00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: As she's a.

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00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 5: Did any Americans grow up with enough exposure to soccer

1117
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: to be able to they.

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00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: Kick the tennis ball there be three times and then

1119
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: up of the Arabaker serve. I'm going to say, well,

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00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 3: we won't see an American accomplish that.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question.

1122
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: Now you can put that out there, though they'll see.

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00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: We'll see if anyone even tries that. I think I

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00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: could see someone like Francis Piafo trying to do it.

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00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: But no, you're absolutely right, though, Caitlin, there's absolutely no

1126
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: doubt that. The biggest issue for me, and I've spoken

1127
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: about it at nauseum on this podcast, is that are

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00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: bur just looks like misery out on the court, and

1129
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: she doesn't find the joy because her whole game is

1130
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: predicated on creativity.

1131
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: Drop shot, you know, stuff.

1132
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: Coming in there.

1133
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: What's for.

1134
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: Love to entertain?

1135
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: You know?

1136
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: And there's one thing when Francis loves to entertain as well,

1137
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's great for him all the

1138
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: time because he's a little bit lose its focus, whereas

1139
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: On's I think it's really important for her to be

1140
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: loose and relaxed and creative, and if she's not happy,

1141
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: there's no creativity out there. I do want to give

1142
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of shit to the French Federal or

1143
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: to the Italian Federation here because I don't.

1144
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 6: Know if you guys come for federations on this path,

1145
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 6: because I really.

1146
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Have a problem with this.

1147
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: In the finals of the women's okay, it was packed.

1148
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: The whole stadium was packed.

1149
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: But in that little box right behind the court where

1150
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: you know, all the dignitaries go and sit, there was

1151
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: like twenty percent of the box was fault And in

1152
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: the man's the next day it was packed. So I'm like, guys,

1153
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: you're getting free seats to sit there. In the final,

1154
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: You've got the number one and two players in the

1155
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: world that literally, as you said, already, Sam had one

1156
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: of the best matches of the year the week before,

1157
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: and you can't find your way into the seat. Come on,

1158
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: that was so bad and it's not like the men's anymore,

1159
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: and you got Jerry playing Sperrit, Like what the fuck?

1160
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: Okay, was there a soccer game going on at the

1161
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: same time or something.

1162
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: Maybe that's gonna be their excuse.

1163
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: But I was a little annoyed at that watching that

1164
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: today and then watching the men so I was like,

1165
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: they better not be in the seats.

1166
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: No, I know what you mean.

1167
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: Luckily, I'll say this. If you're not in the inside

1168
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: of the tennis war like you are, you don't know

1169
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: why those seats are empty. At least you don't know

1170
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: that it's the Federation.

1171
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: But I'm with you.

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00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: The women's final is like way more exciting. I'd rather

1173
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 3: watch that than Verev and Jerry.

1174
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: That's for sure. All Right, you guys, we got to

1175
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: wrap this up. We got I got a kid put

1176
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: to bed, You got dinner to have with your kids.

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00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: I do want to give a shout out because I

1178
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 5: am so excited about what we're going to be cooking up.

1179
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to say too much about it because

1180
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: we have not announced it yet, but the two of

1181
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 5: you are going to be doing a very special audio

1182
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 5: project together. I'm grateful that you are both listen. I

1183
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 5: love coming on the podcast and giving wildly speculative and

1184
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: largely informed opinions. But as you've noticed, I've seated the

1185
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 5: ground to the two pros most of tonight, as I

1186
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: will continue to do. Thank you so much for joining us, Sam.

1187
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 5: I'm so excited for the next couple of weeks where

1188
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 5: we're going to be having you two talk, and for

1189
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 5: joining the pod for with us tonight to just sort

1190
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: of talk through the tennis world. That your voice that

1191
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 5: is super excited to get in our world.

1192
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: It was fun. Thanks for having me. It's fun to

1193
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: give me a purpose in tennis.

1194
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: I've been out of it for a little bit, but

1195
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: I've got a reason to watch now and.

1196
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: Thanks and I'm learning on here too.

1197
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm realing you back into the big game with a

1198
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: big boys playing exactly That's what I'm doing. That was

1199
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: my goal in this.

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00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: If I didn't get hurt, I was planning to play

1201
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: Wimbledon Legends this year. Actually, oh I was up, so

1202
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: I got a postpone till twenty twenty five, but I

1203
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: was going to Wimbledon to play the Legends.

1204
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, all the guys are really upset that you're

1205
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: not bringing your one forty eight mile and out about

1206
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: them in the in the Legends.

1207
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: The thirty six year old legend I've got.

1208
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm playing the invitational.

1209
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 2: Mixed levels at Wimbledon, So I got to get start

1210
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: hitting some tennis balls because I haven't had a tennis ball.

1211
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 4: In about six months.

1212
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Okay, start you get up there.

1213
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: Anyway, all right, guys, Well, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Sam, that was awesome, and Caitlin, nice to have you

1215
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: back for a little period of time.

1216
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: A little we are going to.

1217
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: Announce a little bit more of what Sam and I

1218
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: are going to be creating over the next couple of weeks.

1219
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: But we are very excited about it. And so yeah,

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Speaker 2: thanks everybody for joining us once again today on the

1221
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: dates of Stem's podcast, and we are pumped for the

1222
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: next month.

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Speaker 6: Awesome, Thank you Sam.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys,