WEBVTT - Minding The Store

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to on the Job. This season, we're focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>how people and businesses are getting back to work. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>call it a great transformation, a change in the way

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<v Speaker 1>workers are thinking. Employers need people to work more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>putting laborers in a sort of position of power. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be hearing from people navigating this new normal for themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as they find their life's work. Across the US, small

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<v Speaker 1>business owners are facing a huge hiring crisis. COVID put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out of work and displaced even more. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>businesses need people back and just can't find them. In

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<v Speaker 1>rural Vermont, Karen Banks faces this issue if she manages

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<v Speaker 1>a general store, which is the lifeblood of little towns

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<v Speaker 1>like hers. Well, today we talked to Karen about her

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<v Speaker 1>fight to keep the store open as the number of

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<v Speaker 1>her employees dwindles and the population of her town skyrockets. Um. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna get started here. Um. On a

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<v Speaker 1>rainy winter evening, I drove over to Bondville, Vermont to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Karen. Karen Banks, and I am the manager of

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<v Speaker 1>a large boutique style country grocery store in Bombville, Vermont,

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<v Speaker 1>the wind Hall Market. We have the fortune of doing

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<v Speaker 1>an in person interview in her cozy apartment, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very conveniently located above the market she manages. I should

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<v Speaker 1>should mention for the tape that we're joined by Crispy.

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<v Speaker 1>Crispy is a big, fat white cat. She's twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>old and very needy. Okay, So the Windhall market that

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<v Speaker 1>Karen manages, it looks like a typical country store in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of town. If you walk into a smallest

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<v Speaker 1>room with a delhi a cash register, but you take

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<v Speaker 1>a right right around the cash register counter and there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot more to it. We have a produced section,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a wine room, we have a big grocery section,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody that comes in says, wow, this place is

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<v Speaker 1>way bigger than it looks like. Karen is the face

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<v Speaker 1>you see on any given day you walk into the market,

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<v Speaker 1>and her job basically is to run the entire show

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<v Speaker 1>from the time it opens until the time it closes,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of customers, put out fires. Literal fires are

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<v Speaker 1>like metaphorical metaphorical fires. You know, if there are any

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<v Speaker 1>problems in the day, I take care of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>receive I order, I make a lot of phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>I sell a lot of groceries. Karen is a creature

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<v Speaker 1>of habit and statistics. She pours over her sales history,

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<v Speaker 1>constantly reads about new and trending products you can bring

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<v Speaker 1>into the store. She knows good business, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, her job is to know people

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<v Speaker 1>do and have relationships with them. I can know a

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<v Speaker 1>customer and know when they come in what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up and put in there in their basket.

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<v Speaker 1>I order everything, every box of cereal, every Cannabians it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to me. I just know what they like. The

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<v Speaker 1>Windhall Market is at the base of Stratton Mountain, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's a busy, rural ski town. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>very broad base of customers. Uh we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of visitors. We have some international traffic here, high income millionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>regular people, just the working class like me. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>we cater to all of those people. Besides being where

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<v Speaker 1>you get your stuff, a general store is also the

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<v Speaker 1>social hub a little towns like Bondville. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know any gossip, if you want to know anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened, you come down to the store and you

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<v Speaker 1>can find out. So one of the roles I guess

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<v Speaker 1>for us is to communicate with the community, meaning they're

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<v Speaker 1>heavily involved in all community events, everything that's happening. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fire somewhere in town during the night, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>open up and deliver coffee to the fireman. They're involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer concert series in town. The post office

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<v Speaker 1>is right next door. Just if you live in a

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<v Speaker 1>town like this, the store is a central part of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Oh it is. Everybody that lives in this

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<v Speaker 1>town comes in the store at one point or another.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about general stores that makes them unique is

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<v Speaker 1>that each one needs to be so specifically catered to

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<v Speaker 1>the area that they're in to be successful simultaneously. It's

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<v Speaker 1>usually the only shop for miles, so its purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>right in the name general store, meaning you generally have

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<v Speaker 1>everything we try. There are very few times I've had

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<v Speaker 1>to look at somebody and say, no, we don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very competitive, so I'm very competitive about not being

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<v Speaker 1>out of anything. She says. She sees it as a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the game she likes. There's about six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>products in the store, and it's her job to meticulously

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<v Speaker 1>look at all her reports or buying history, seasonal trends,

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<v Speaker 1>just to keep the right things on the shelves at

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<v Speaker 1>the right times. It's a thoughtful process ordering for the market.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a competition with myself. I guess I like to

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<v Speaker 1>stay right on it, make sure I have everything that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody needs. Probably one of the biggest overachievers you'll ever meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Running a place like this is hard in any environment,

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<v Speaker 1>but with COVID and complications like short staffing, supply chain issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping the store COVID free, Karen's competitive attitude has

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<v Speaker 1>really been put to the test, and she is constantly

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<v Speaker 1>in a battle to keep the store from closing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what would happen. I mean, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>driving fifteen miles one way or another to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a grocery, which, in a place like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>really big impact on your day. It is. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a big impact on your day. It's gas, it's your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the roads good or are the roads bad? It

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<v Speaker 1>just would be unbelievable for us not to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have picked up on Karen's accent. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>from Vermont. Young Karen is from the South, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>an army brat and grew up all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born in Virginia, lived in Alaska, Missouri, Georgia, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>just grew up all over the place. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>loving family, says that they were huggers. She was the

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<v Speaker 1>only girl. She grew up with three brothers. Big tom boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I can fight. I could give you a black eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty great childhood, do you. Went to University of Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>where she came out a highly trained dentist assistant. And

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<v Speaker 1>we were trained to be the dentist's right hand. We

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<v Speaker 1>could do anything that wasn't permanent. The dentist would come

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<v Speaker 1>in and he would prep the tooth. I'd come in

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<v Speaker 1>and finish it. Very unusual to see that in any state,

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<v Speaker 1>which made it a great career. She got paid well.

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<v Speaker 1>She did that for about twenty five years. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a son named Kelly. They moved to Vermont, and the

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<v Speaker 1>laws were different here. So she was making less as

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<v Speaker 1>a dentist assistant because she was allowed to do less,

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<v Speaker 1>not what I was used to making. And so my

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<v Speaker 1>son and I we like to do some expensive stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that ski. We love Nascar, We like to travel to races,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not cheap. So um I decided to segue.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in town said that she might be perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>a job organizing banquets at a nearby resort, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was really good at it. From there, she got hired

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<v Speaker 1>at Stratton, the big ski mountain in town, where I

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<v Speaker 1>met the former owner of this market. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>middle manager at the private ski club where she and

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<v Speaker 1>her family were members. This woman's name was Lorraine. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they hit it off. Immediately after Karen's son graduated high school,

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to move closer to work and moved to

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<v Speaker 1>this apartment above the store which Lorraine owned. When Lorraine's

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<v Speaker 1>GM left the store, she asked Karen if she'd take

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<v Speaker 1>the job, and I did. The rest is history. What

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<v Speaker 1>were your first impressions? I knew nothing about grocery she

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<v Speaker 1>she brought me in here knowing that I knew absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about running a grocery store. But what I am

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<v Speaker 1>is very detail oriented, great memory, great customer service skills,

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<v Speaker 1>and knew a lot of her customers. Unsurprisingly, Karen was

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<v Speaker 1>really good at it. She jumped right in and has

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<v Speaker 1>been the face of the wind home market ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Karen makes it sound easy, but to give

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<v Speaker 1>an example of how hard a business this is. In

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<v Speaker 1>my little town of Belmont, Vermont, I've seen the general

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<v Speaker 1>store passed through five different owners in twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>The burnout ray is high. And anyone going into this

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<v Speaker 1>business knows that what did you have any like reservations

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<v Speaker 1>when you first came in and like thinking if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I could do this? Now I'm full

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<v Speaker 1>speed ahead. I'm that kind of girl that that just

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<v Speaker 1>jumps in with both feet. I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything you can't learn to do. I raised a

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<v Speaker 1>child with a rare genetic syndrome, less than a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>cases in the world, Karen's son, Kelly. He has ours COG,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a rare disorder that can prevent physical growth

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<v Speaker 1>and messes with your short and long term memory. So

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<v Speaker 1>on any given day, he may or may not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to tell you what his birthday is. He almost

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<v Speaker 1>stopped growing when he was a little over two years old,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got him on the right medication and he's

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<v Speaker 1>five ten now. Don't feel sorry for him. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>two degrees. He graduated Magna and Simicum wild from his colleges.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a smart kid. I didn't raise him to think

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<v Speaker 1>that he had a disability. I raised him to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he can do anything he wants to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>he does anything he wants to do. He never whined

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<v Speaker 1>about it. No whining in our family and absolutely not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed because look around, there are so many people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world that are disadvantaged and not able to work,

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<v Speaker 1>not able to provide for themselves with their family. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can get up and walk on your two legs

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<v Speaker 1>every day and go to work and earn money and

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<v Speaker 1>and make a decent living, you're incredibly blessed. You seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a very stubborn, class half full person. Oh my glass,

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<v Speaker 1>my glass is running over. Let me get back from

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<v Speaker 1>the break. The unstoppable force that is Karen Banks meets

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<v Speaker 1>the immovable object that is COVID. A strong work ethic

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<v Speaker 1>takes pride in a job well done, sweats over the details.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you. But to get an honest day's work,

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<v Speaker 1>the Express Jobs out. The winner of twenty nineteen was

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<v Speaker 1>a busy one in bond Bill, Vermont. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of snow, a lot of terrorists, and when COVID

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<v Speaker 1>hit that march, everything changed. It just was. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unreal how difficult it was and how fast

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<v Speaker 1>we had to react in the food chain business too,

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<v Speaker 1>to get the things that our customers needed. The store

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<v Speaker 1>actually didn't close right away. It was chaotic. They hustled

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<v Speaker 1>to get their website streamlined for online ordering, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they locked the doors and they went curbside. We went

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous curbside we had and we had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>employees here at the time. I bet we had fourteen employees.

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<v Speaker 1>We worked eight hours, nine hours a day. All we

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<v Speaker 1>did was shop, shop, shop, shop, shop, no talking, no

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<v Speaker 1>no lunch, no brakes, sometimes eighty orders a day, eight

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<v Speaker 1>orders a day. It's common knowledge that most businesses face

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<v Speaker 1>supply issues around this time and still do. But in

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<v Speaker 1>a general store with six thousand items, the supply chain

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<v Speaker 1>issues of COVID affected virtually everything in Karen's life. And

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<v Speaker 1>we had to do something that I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 1>would ever have to do and I hope I never

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it again. Um, I had to rash

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<v Speaker 1>in toilet paper. I had to tell somebody, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>can only have three rolls of toilet paper. Two things

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<v Speaker 1>of strawberries and chicken wings were non existent, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was just awful to have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people that they couldn't have what they wanted, because your

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<v Speaker 1>job is to provide what people want more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest challenge for Karen was to see all of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that she saw on a daily basis adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>to their new reality. It was heartbreaking to see people afraid, afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people came to pick up their groceries

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<v Speaker 1>and h we couldn't have any contact with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would leave their groceries outside. They'd wear gloves, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be masked. Um, they'd have disinfectant wipes. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>sad for me to see how scared people were. In

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<v Speaker 1>addition to that, a ton of people swarmed to towns

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<v Speaker 1>like this from cities terrified of the pandemic. She remembers

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<v Speaker 1>a young couple coming into the store right before they

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<v Speaker 1>went curbside, and the wife was obviously pregnant, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was asking some questions about the neighborhood and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just getting here and he said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just came out from Manhattan. We're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the city. And I said, oh, do you

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<v Speaker 1>realize you need to quarantine? Have you quarantined? And he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't. He said, you're not going to call the police,

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<v Speaker 1>saw me, are you? I just needed to get my

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<v Speaker 1>wife out of the city. She's pregnant. I'm afraid for her.

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<v Speaker 1>And then well, of course I'm not going to call

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<v Speaker 1>the police. I'm just I'm just saying, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to quarantine, be careful. He was afraid that I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to call the police on him. How sad

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<v Speaker 1>is that as a pandemic went on, the Windhall Market

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<v Speaker 1>eventually did open their doors up and we're not strictly curbside,

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<v Speaker 1>but Karen was facing a whole new set of challenges

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<v Speaker 1>in this new normal. A big one was population. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that young couple that was coming from the city

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<v Speaker 1>to escape with the pregnant wife. Thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people did that. A lot of them stayed. We had

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<v Speaker 1>three to five thousand extra people living here during COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I don't say it's I don't think people understand

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<v Speaker 1>how big that is for a small place like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's double the population. So now in do you have

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<v Speaker 1>more customers coming into the store than you ever have? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. How many people do you have working

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<v Speaker 1>in the store for how many should be? Really, we

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<v Speaker 1>should be fifteen strong. We have not had a break,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say since nineteen Just to remind you listening,

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<v Speaker 1>they had fourteen people when the pandemic started. This specifically

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge problem in rural areas like this. All

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<v Speaker 1>the properties around here got bought up by people coming

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<v Speaker 1>from out of state, and any extra rooms that locals

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<v Speaker 1>do have are being used for Airbnb instead of apartments

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<v Speaker 1>for potential employees that live there. You can't find people

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<v Speaker 1>to work because there aren't people here. No, No, there aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Alien abductions That's what I think. If you have more

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<v Speaker 1>customers than you ever have and you only have four

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<v Speaker 1>when you think your stuff fifteen, how do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>We work long hours. The employees that are there are

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<v Speaker 1>very high integrity, high production employees. We we can get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot done in a short amount of time, but

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<v Speaker 1>we work a lot of hours. I work anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think my paycheck this time was seventy two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever they can, they pick up some part time help,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fourteen year old high school student that comes

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<v Speaker 1>by sometimes. Great kid. He comes in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days after school and gives me an hour. Another guy

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<v Speaker 1>who works full time at the Scheme Mountain nearby, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come in and sweep and mop and do some

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<v Speaker 1>heavy lifting for me in the evening. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days a week. She takes extra hours from them whenever

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<v Speaker 1>she can. Karen all So again conveniently lives in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>So the administrative part of it is easy for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not ashamed to say it. I'll sit with a

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<v Speaker 1>glass of wine and do the grocery order. I've earned it,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah I have. And that grocery order takes about five hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly thinking of ways to work smarter and not

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<v Speaker 1>harder in this grocery. But there are literally six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>things and they have to you have to get them

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<v Speaker 1>on the shelves and it's not a piece of cake.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's where with all of this I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>market is not going under, it's not going down. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to maintain a standard of excellence, a standard of

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<v Speaker 1>service to the community because they need that. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be terrible in my heart, in my mind not to

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<v Speaker 1>provide that for this community. I spent a long time

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<v Speaker 1>away from my hometown, a town just like this one,

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<v Speaker 1>and going to the store growing up, you grab what

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<v Speaker 1>you needed. You saw the same people every day. Often

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have the same conversations with those people, generally about

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<v Speaker 1>the weather. It's routine, and I admittedly you took that

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<v Speaker 1>for granted. Because when I ended up back in Vermont

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<v Speaker 1>during COVID and couldn't see my friends, you couldn't see

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<v Speaker 1>my family, I would look forward to going to the

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<v Speaker 1>store in a way that I never did before because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the one place that you could go and

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<v Speaker 1>check in to make sure that everyone you knew was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And at a certain point, that's what Karen was providing

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<v Speaker 1>not just things people needed, but human connection in a

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<v Speaker 1>time where there wasn't much. This is a small community,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know each other, and we care about each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and we check on each other. You know. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know if we were okay, and we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know if they were okay. Karen had to shut her

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<v Speaker 1>doors in the beginning before she went curbside. My town's

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<v Speaker 1>general store did the same, so we got a taste

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<v Speaker 1>of what the town would look like without it temporarily.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea of it closing and the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>it not being there is something I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever considered, and I'm sure that people are here never

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<v Speaker 1>considered like it's the it's the general Store, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>wind Hall Market. It will be there, and there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of uncertainty in the last few years, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems that you maybe are like the one

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<v Speaker 1>certain thing here. Well, we we like to think where

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<v Speaker 1>the rock, you know, it's like, what would people We

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<v Speaker 1>had to help people. There was no question that we

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<v Speaker 1>had to help them through the lockdown. There's just not

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<v Speaker 1>a question that it won't be here, regardless of staffing issues,

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<v Speaker 1>supply chain or whatever the world throws their way, the

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<v Speaker 1>town of Bonville can rest easy knowing that Karen Banks

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<v Speaker 1>is not a whiner and if she wants to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>she is going to do it. I agreed to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that if you take it on, do

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<v Speaker 1>it with a smile. And I'll do it with a

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<v Speaker 1>smile at eight o'clock in the morning, and I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it if I'm there at eight o'clock at night. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>still have the same smile. Just so you know listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen has a vacation coming up. She's going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Philippines with one of her co workers in the store.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be the first break they've had since two thousand nine.

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<v Speaker 1>For on the job. I motuscry there to do these things.