1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: From the All Movies to be corporately named radio studio 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: inside Saint Thomas Sports Park. We welcome you to the OTP. 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: My name is Mike Keith amy Wells is always here 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: for this program. I am you can't check me. Yeah, 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: how do you like the beautiful it's pretty cool in here? 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Coach Dave McGinnis sitting in for Jim White. Dave McGinnis, 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: of course, former NFL head coach, assistant coach and now 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Titans radio game day analyst. What do you think of 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: the new place? This is impressive, I mean it really is. 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean I've I've been to a few county fairs 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and some rodeos. This this is a very very nice, 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: nice facility. You said it's going to be corporately named. Well, 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: we'll be sure. Well, a corporation needs to put their 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: name on. That's right. They'll be very happy now they 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: have the blank radio studio inside of Saint Thomas. They 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: would be very proud of this. This is impressive. Yeah, 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: I like this. This is state fair level broadcast. Probably ribbon, 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You remember, I just spent two 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: years out there in LA and this is nice. I mean, 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: this is nice. Nice, It is nice. Nice. Well, we're 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: glad to be here. We're glad you're here, Coach Mack, 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: and we're glad to have you with us today for 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: the OTP, The Official Titans Podcast, August the twenty ninth, 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: Getting ready to wrap everything in the preseason up. It's 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: hard to believe that it is all coming to an end. 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: As of tomorrow night, roughly ten to fifteen, the preseason 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: will be officially over. Titans make a trade Kamala Korea 28 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: obtained for a late round draft pick in twenty nineteen. 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Titans not officially saying what that is, but a draft 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: pick in twenty nineteen, core an outside line backer from 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Boise State, third round or i should say third year, 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: former second round pick. Coach Mack. We ask you for 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Titans Radio last night to watch tape. You and Amy 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Wells watch tape. I'll give you both a chance to 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: tell me what Kamale Correa has been doing at outside 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: linebacker in the preseason for the Baltimore Ravens so far. Okay, Well, 37 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: you know when Amy and I watched it and we 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: put it on, we watched two games on him. The 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: thing that impressed me first of all is They used 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: him in a multiple places. He played on the left side, 41 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: the right side. We saw him rush the passer, you know, 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: from a two point and a three point stance. They 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: also used him inside off the ball. They used him 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a lot mugg in the A gap, which means he 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: was walking up in the A gap to draw protections 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: different ways. He got singled up on a back. Once 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: when the protection busted, he completely dominated the back made 48 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: a sack. He also, to me, the thing that I 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: liked watching is, you know, whenever I would grade linebackers 50 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: and they would put him off the ball, what I 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: wanted to see was how much zone awareness they have 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: and how smart they are as far as being able 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: to pattern read, set up in their area when they're 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: playing zone, and then break on directional delivery keys. I 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: saw all of that from him. He's got he's got 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: an awareness about him. And then the other thing that 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I liked and that you know that Amy and I 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: saw when he was making a rush Mike, if he 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: was rushing from the right side of the defense and 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: did not affect the passer and the ball was already thrown, 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: he was a really good chase player from behind. He's 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: a good effort player and that will go along ways. 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: And Plus he's very familiar with his defense. I mean, 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in the two games that we watched, I think that 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: and I'll let Amy give her evaluation, but I think 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: we were very impressed with what we saw. He will 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: fit in nicely with this defense. Absolutely, he looked kind 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: of like a steel for the Tennessee Titans, like a 69 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: guy that is going to fit into as Coach Mack said, 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: this defense really well. He was disruptive no matter where 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the play was he was in it. He used his 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: body well. He seemed to know what was going on 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: in all facets of the play. Smart player, and I 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be a guy that wherever 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the ball is, he's going to be right behind it. 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: With the injuries the Titans have an outside linebacker, it 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: would figure that Kamala Correa is probably going to have 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: to help this team at Miami on September ninth. You're comfortable, 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Coachmac that he can, well, I would be it. I 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: think that he's a guy that you've he's played in 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: the league. I mean, he started three ball games last years. 82 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: He's been the league two years, but he's played in 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: ball games he's been in ball games. And the other 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: thing about it is is at that position, especially in 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: this defense, you're going to need waves of people. You're 86 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: going to need people to be able to come in 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: and spell each other because it's a very high speed defense. 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: And what you want to do you want to be 89 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: able to keep your guys as fresh as possible. And 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: if you've got, you know, secondary guys that can come 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: in behind the starters and can still have no drop off, 92 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: then you can make your defense work the way you 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: want to. We remember Brian or rack Post saying at 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of the offseason that he's not trying to 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: play a ton of snap this year, so we need 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: to have that depth. This is a guy that can 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: provide that depth. And he's familiar with deemps, which I 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: think is a big deal. His system, his style of coaching, 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: that's going to go a long way. Kamala Korea will 100 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: where number forty six. He takes the place on the 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: roster of number forty six Giante Skinner who was released 102 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: to make room for him. So again, Kamalae Korea. And 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: by the way, Marcus Mariota corrected me three times yesterday, 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: three times discussing Kamalae Karea and he, of course I 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: was southerning it as I often do, and he said, no, no, 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Kamalae Correa. Well see, there you go. They're high school. 107 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: They're high school. That's got to be exciting. That's so cool, 108 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: especially from how far away that is. To have those 109 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: two guys together, and the Saint Louis School is apparently 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: a special place in Honolulu, and Marcus was genuinely excited, right, 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: which is so cool. I mean, really, if you think 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: about it, the NFL is such a small amount of 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: people who make it to this level. There's a small, small, 114 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: small amount of people who make it out of high 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: school and are able to get this far. And to 116 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: have two guys from the same high school and the 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: same high school in Hawaii on the same team, that's incredible. 118 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: That's so cool. No, it really is. I mean, it's 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: it's unusual, but it's a very it's a it's a 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: good story. And it's also a good story because they're 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: two good human beings and they're good players, and that 122 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: that's what that what makes the story even better. And 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and and again that's Saint Louis High School over there. 124 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: You know June Jones. Uh, you know that I know 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: very well. You know when he was a head coach 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: at Hawaii over there. You know, I've visited with him. 127 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: That's a special, special high school. I mean, and they 128 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: they take care of of those players and those kids 129 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: from little Bitty on up. I mean, it truly is 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: a brotherhood, and it's it's a it's a very very 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: close knit group, and it's it's very very unique that 132 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: they're both here from there. And it's also you know, 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a feel good story, but more than 134 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: a feel good story, we've got two really good human 135 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: beings and two good football players. So Krea, we're where 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: forty six. The other Titan you'll see in a different 137 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: number will actually be Leonard Tillery, running back out of 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Southern who signed this week to give the Titans some 139 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: running back depth overall, due to the fact that you 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: would figure we're not going to see Dion Lewis and 141 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: we're not going to see Derrick Henry, so that leaves 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: David Flewellen, Daylon Dawkins, Tillery, and maybe, I mean, maybe 143 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: we'll see if we see Akram Wideley, who's been down 144 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: and who has missed some time. I would not think 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: coach Mack they'll want to see a lot of Flewellen. No, 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: probably not. I mean, and you said it right, I 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: mean you're spot on there with with Tillery, the reason 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: you know that he's in here. And again, I mean 149 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: he'll he'll get a chance. He's familiar a little bit 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: with this offense. But I think you're spot on as 151 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: far as the reason that he is here, you know. 152 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: And again, when you're when you're a young player in 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: this league and you're moving around and an NFL team 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: calls you, regardless of when they call you, if you 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: ever get it, you get a chance to get in 156 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: the door of a facility, you jump at it and 157 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: you take it every every chance you get until you're 158 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: finally decided that you're through. But you have to, you know, 159 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: you have to make that decision. But as long as 160 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: you're getting a chance, you never know once you come 161 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: through the door, what might happen. Well, Leonard Tillery is 162 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: a guy who walked on at Southern, so you know 163 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: he wants to play football. Anybody willing to walk on 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: in college wherever it is, if you walked on, you 165 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: want to play. I respect those people, so much because 166 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: to be a walk on at any level takes guts. 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: You know who else walked on at Southern Eneias Williams. 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: He was pretty good. Yeah he ended up Okay, you know, hu, 169 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yes, well, I'm just I just 170 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: told you that you sure didn't. All right, let's talk 171 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: about the other part of the week that was big news, 172 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the returns. And I'm not talking about kick returns, per 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: se amy. I'm talking about people coming back to the 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: practice field. Absolutely. Richard Matthews has emerged. He is alive, 175 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: and he is back on the field. That was exciting. 176 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Brian A. Rackpo came out of the training room back 177 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: to the practice fields. Good to see those guys back 178 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: and their return kind of signals to me that we're 179 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: starting to get in football shape. We're starting to get 180 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: ready for the regular season and trying to get those 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: guys back in the mix a little bit. And you're 182 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: talking about Delaney Walker being back out there, Malcolm Butler, 183 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans doing some things, so Coach Mack, even if 184 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: they're not going full go in practice, the fact that 185 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: they've returned to the field indicates they are in what 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: coach vrabeled terms his return protocol. No, and it's very 187 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: important that they return this week because now it gives 188 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: them a lot of time before the game. And we're 189 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: talking about veteran football players. But look, the primary focus 190 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: of any head coach in this league forever and ever 191 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: is to get your best players to the first game healthy. 192 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: That's primary. It's really big. And the fact that all 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: of these players that Amy mentioned have come back this week, 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: it gives them basically two weeks of prep before we 195 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: go down to Miami. And with players of that nature, 196 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: players that have had that much experience, this is plenty 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: of time. You want to be sure they're healthy. You know, 198 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: they know how to play NFL football, now, just be 199 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: sure they're healthy. Amy hit on the two guys that 200 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: were most reacted to, it seemed in the locker room 201 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: on defense, Brian Rackpo. You totally get that he plays 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. He's one of the leaders, Coach Mack. Why 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: did the offensive players have the reaction that they did 204 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: to Reshard Matthews coming back in terms of what he 205 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: means to the Titans when they have the football look 206 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: to get respect in a National Football League locker room, 207 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways that you can do it, 208 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: but I promise you the primary way you do it 209 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: is be a consistent producer when you play. He's been 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: a consistent producer, and they understand. Now it takes a lot. 211 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: It really does take a lot to be able to 212 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: produce in this league. Wherever position you're playing on a 213 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: consistent basis, players respect that. They also know that you 214 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: get consistent producers, you give yourselves better chances to win. 215 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: So I mean players, an NFL locker room is a 216 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: very perciftive place. They understand reality really quick and they 217 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: know how important he is to this offense helping you win. Absolutely. 218 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: That's what we're all here trying to do win some 219 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: football games. Minnesota. The preseason game Thursday night, the fourth 220 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: preseason game, has evolved from the point that it was 221 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: when I started in the league. A lot of guys 222 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: would come out and play a series and then would 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: take a seat. Now the starters really don't play. They 224 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, they may come out for warm ups, but 225 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: then they don't play in the game. Instead, it's the 226 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: depth of the two teams battling it out for whatever 227 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: roster spots. And that's what we'll expect tomorrow night. At 228 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium. Well, absolutely, and you're exactly right. I mean, 229 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: we you know, I've been in the league for thirty 230 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: plus years and it was very different you know when 231 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: I started. But also the thing that's so important now 232 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: to know is you know the league. I mean by 233 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: expanding the roster to keeping ninety throughout the four preseason games, 234 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: this encourages this, you know, which is very very important 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: because used to be and both of you guys remember 236 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: when we used to make that first cut. Then you 237 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of guys that you were depending on 238 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: for that first game that either that had to play 239 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: because you just did not have enough bodies. This makes 240 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. And plus, as I've 241 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: said before, and it's it's important to understand, this game 242 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: is important to those people that are playing. I mean, 243 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: it's extremely important because you never know what you might show, 244 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, put on top of what you've shown before, 245 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: that just might in that final personnel meeting, that might 246 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: make him say, you know what, we might want to 247 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: keep this guy here because he's shown us just enough 248 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: that we need it. And the more you can do 249 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: and the longer you can stay, the better chance you have. 250 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: But every opportunity is important, and it's important to these 251 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: guys that are going to be playing. Don't don't ever 252 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: underestimate that. Well, coach, you've evaluated many a player in 253 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: your day. What does it take for someone to do 254 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth preseason game to push them over the edge. Well, 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: it's it's individuals that you know. It depends on what 256 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: they've done while they've been in camp. Amy. But the 257 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: first thing that catches everybody's eye because most of these 258 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: guys are going to be they're going to be backups. 259 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: But it can you do something on special teams, especially 260 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: on the Big four? You know, pump pump return, kickoff, 261 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: kickoff return? Can you be a viable factor on that? 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: Because Big Four contributors on special teams are extremely valuable. 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: And then if you can play more than one position 264 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: on the Big four, that is even bigger because once 265 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: you start cutting down to how many are active on 266 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: game day, if you can have multitasking players, it really 267 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: helps you out a lot, not only in the early 268 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: part of the season, but in the latter part of 269 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: the season. It becomes critical. Let's do some math. Yes, okay, 270 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: so we spent a little time yesterday afternoon based on 271 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: what we know, and that is what we've seen in 272 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the three pre preseason games, what we've seen in practice, 273 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: what we sort of know from the injury reports, so 274 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: on and so forth. We agree that we think there 275 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: are as of today, in our estimation on our list, 276 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: we've come up with forty four players that we know 277 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: are on this roster. Yes, I would think that's fair. Okay, 278 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: forty four players. We're not going to go through them all. 279 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to get into the specifics. We're just 280 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: throwing out a number. We said, who on this roster 281 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: do we know is completely safe based on who's been playing, 282 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: so on and so forth, And I mean the tailor 283 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: to one would be on this list. Marcus Mariota, Delaney Walker. 284 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you get it. Yeah, it's not rocket science. Okay, 285 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: So when you start to take the numbers, we begin 286 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: to break down the offense, and you take the offensive 287 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: line first and foremost. Jack Conklin is on physically unable 288 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: to perform right now. If he stays on reserve pup 289 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: into the season, then Jack Conklin cannot play for six weeks, 290 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: can't practice for six weeks either, right, correct? Okay, if 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: you choose to make him active, thinking you may get 292 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: him back after three or four weeks, then he can practice, 293 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: he can be out there. But does it mean you 294 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: have to carry another offensive lineman knowing that he is 295 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: going to be an inactive for at least some period 296 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: of time. Well, and that's why when I just in 297 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the previous segment where we talked about multitasking players, right, 298 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: that's why it's so important that, especially on your offensive line, 299 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: because you know you may only go into I've gone 300 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: into a lot of football games on Sundays when carrying 301 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: only seven offensive lineman and the reason I was able 302 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to do that is because I had one or two 303 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: guys that could play multiple positions. To me, it depends 304 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: on how many multiple position players that you have on 305 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line and whether you think you can get 306 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: by with less. Now knowing that you've got a ball player, 307 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: and I've been in this situation before making a decision 308 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: on a pup player, right, you know, knowing and again 309 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where he is no in his 310 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: physical rehab. I mean, and I'm you know, I'm not 311 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm here for. I'm not, you know, 312 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: going to ask, but I do know this if you've 313 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: got a player that is close and then you do 314 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: make that decision, then before you're able to get him back, 315 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: you do have to be able to quantify how you're 316 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: going to handle that until he gets back. Right, that 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: might entail keeping an extra player, so you could keep 318 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: an extra guy who can play tackle. Theoretically with the idea, 319 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: then if you if you keep eight instead of nine, 320 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: then where do you take the number from? Right? Does 321 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: that mean you only keep two quarterbacks? But that in 322 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: that specific scenario, do you then you try and utilize 323 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad a little bit, try and sneak someone 324 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: on there who then you can do some rearranging in 325 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: that capacity. You could, I mean you could, but I 326 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: don't know that you get anybody through to the practice 327 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: squad that you would be comfortable playing. Right, Yep, you're 328 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: because I think you're gonna I think you're gonna want 329 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: that player to be a veteran and he doesn't have 330 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: practice squad eligibility anyway. And that's that's true, because I mean, 331 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: that's very true. And that's a fair question. Yeah, fair question. 332 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: And again the other thing to remember is is just 333 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: like this personnel department is doing, there's thirty one other 334 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: personnel departments that have been grinding on these back of 335 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: the roster guys for a you know, for a long time. 336 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: And so as many numbers, you know, you say, it's 337 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: over eleven hundred players that will be released on you 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: know that are going to be released on this final cut. 339 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: I promise you every one of them have been gone 340 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: over and cataloged by all of these personnel departments. I mean, 341 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: it seems like a big number, but when you really 342 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: start to look at it, they've got it narrowed down 343 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: to who they might want to go after. Well, here's 344 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: an interesting big number. Do the tight keep six outside 345 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: linebackers based on the fact that a rackpo has missed 346 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: a month? Morgan is dinged, Landry is dinged. I mean, 347 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: you've got to have four guys at least available at 348 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: that position on game day, especially for special teams, right well, 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: and for a thirty four defense. You know, you look 350 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: at a thirty four defense, the outside linebacker position on 351 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: a thirty four defense historically has been a high number 352 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: that you keep because what you said about special teams 353 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: is true, but also you want to be able to 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: roll those guys, right because what you're doing with this defense, 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: and danps has done it. And again you start looking 356 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: at all the very really successful defenses, and again it's 357 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: not a three to four, but it's a four three. 358 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: Let's just go to what Jim Schwartz did this year 359 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. How many d lineman did he play every game? 360 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: And you start looking at their playtimes if you want 361 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: to go back and study it, I mean you're looking 362 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: at thirty percent, thirty one percent. But they're all doing it, 363 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: and they're all doing it at level, and they're all 364 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: doing it in the middle and the end of the 365 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: season with fresher legs. And here's another spot, running back. Yeah, 366 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: you could keep four, but do you only start with 367 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: three because you potentially need an extra outside linebacker or 368 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: an extra offensive lineman. I think the running back is 369 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: where you're going to get one of those extra players. 370 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: I think that that's the position that instead of taking four, 371 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with three because you think you're going 372 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: because because I think you're gonna need them at outside linebacker. 373 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna want to carry an extra offensive lineman. 374 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: All right, And so here's here's the next question, wide receiver. 375 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: Do you need more wide receivers early in the season 376 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: because you're playing at Miami, You're coming home to play Houston, 377 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: it'll be eight million degrees. You're going to Jacksonville, You're 378 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: coming home to play Philadelphia. I mean, do you in 379 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: this scenario, do you need five wide receivers? Do you 380 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: need six wide receivers? Well, but I'm saying knowing that 381 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: you can put one. I mean, you gotta put seven 382 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: guys down on game day, right, Well, here's here here 383 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: and again, I love this conversation because this is these 384 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: are conversations that are going on now. Of course they've 385 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: got a lot more information because they because look, these 386 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of conversations guys, and for our listeners go on 387 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: after at least once every two days during training camp, 388 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: right at least at least maybe even more, because we 389 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: would meet. You know, I've been on staffs before, and 390 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you know when I was running a staff where we 391 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: would meet every night to go over personnel. Because this 392 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: is this is the type of thing that when you 393 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: start looking at it, you only have you only have 394 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: so many numbers, and it's the Rob Peter to pay 395 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Paul type thing. But the things that come into account 396 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: as you were talking about Mike, and then I mean 397 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: it goes to now, what's Matt Lafleur want to do? 398 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, right, what's his personnel groups are going to 399 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: look like? Or then you go to Danp's and say, okay, 400 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: look how many can you get by with? How many 401 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: numbers are you thinking about, you know, playing with? Right here? 402 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: What type of packages? Let's look at the teams we're 403 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: going to play right the first month of the season. 404 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: What type of package do I want to play against this? 405 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: What have they done? All of this stuff comes into 406 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: focus well and Amy said it well too, and that 407 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: is you've got to decide who you can get through 408 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: to practice squad if there's a guy you really like. 409 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw the Titans lose Lea Garrett Blunt, 410 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: we saw the Titans lose Jack Doyle. It's but every 411 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: team has those guys, right, you know, James Harrison is 412 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: a guy that ended up started in Baltimore and became 413 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: a superstar in Pittsburgh. I mean, it happens that you 414 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: can't keep everybody, so you have to make these decisions, 415 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: where do we need a veteran presence? Can we get 416 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: a guy through to practice squad? To think about our future. 417 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Knowing that a guy like last year Corey Levin was 418 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: red shirted, Well, that's turned out to be a great thing. 419 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Corey Levin coach, sat right across from here last night 420 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and said, Corey Levin had a great preseason. You want 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: to do that some to build for your future. But 422 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: you got to think about now. The other thing, too, 423 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: is everybody talks about the fifty three. What's the forty 424 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: six look like? That's what I was just thinking. I 425 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: was just thinking, Okay, so we fill up with all 426 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: these people on game day. Who are we sitting right right? 427 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: But see here's here and here And it's a good point, Amy, 428 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you from the aspect of a coach 429 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: that's done this. If you have to make decisions who 430 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: to sit, you're happy, Sure, you're really happy, because that 431 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: means you have everybody available to you and then you 432 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: have all those options available to you. What you don't 433 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: want to ever do is get in a situation where 434 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: you were, you know, as a head coach, when you 435 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: start filling out who's inactive, when you're sitting in there 436 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: before they come in ninety minutes before the game, to 437 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: get that thing and all of it is already done 438 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: for you because they're not available to you. Because that's 439 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: a bad, bad feeling. And so I mean it's it's 440 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: it's a cesaw type of thing. And so it's what 441 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: you want. You want them all available to you, and 442 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: then you're more than happy to make those decisions. All right, 443 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: let me ask you both this question. Amy, you answer first. 444 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: So we said, in looking at our list, forty four 445 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: and these are again anybody listening to the OTP right 446 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: now would come up with these forty four no big 447 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: shockers in the list right What do you think the 448 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: number is John Robinson and his staff have at this moment, 449 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: He's obviously closer to fifty three than we are. He 450 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and Ryan Cowden, Brian Gardner, John Salgi, that whole group 451 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: that works together. What do you think their number is? 452 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I think they're probably at about fifty forty eight to fifty, 453 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: forty eight to fifty, Yeah, forty eight to fifty and 454 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: and and I know where we might get into this, 455 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: but we're going to get an into us because I'm 456 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: gonna say it is no, it's your show man show, 457 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: you're driving, it's not my show. I'm sitting I'm sitting 458 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: on the far end of the fireball here and so 459 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: it's not it's not my show. I'm just proud to 460 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: be on it with y'all. Is that there's some players 461 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: are going to be on this fifty three that aren't 462 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: on this list, right they're not here? I said too, Yeah, 463 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: and I and I think I think that, just as 464 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: I and I've said this before. Your number, I don't 465 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: remember what it was, but i'd say three. Okay, every 466 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: time I get a MIC, I'm going to say this. 467 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: If we're talking about the Titans in the football John 468 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: Robinson gets it. He understands personnel acquisition in this league, 469 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: and there's more to personnel acquisition in this league. Rather 470 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: than making a draft pick right well and Kamala Correa, 471 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: the trade he made. He gets a guy that went 472 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: in the high second round in twenty sixteen, who's still 473 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: under his rookie contract, meaning he's under contract for eighteen 474 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: and nineteen. He gives up a you know whatever round 475 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: pick late according to whatever report you believe. But let's 476 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: be honest, could if if Kamala Correa turns out to 477 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: be a quality player, can he be sure that he 478 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: could get that player on the third day of the 479 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft. No, no, of course not. That's what 480 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: he does well. No, he does that very well. And 481 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: as I say, as you know, as a former head coach, 482 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have had John Robinson as 483 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: my general manager because I've got complete confidence that while 484 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm coaching this ball team and I'm doing going through 485 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: all the maneuvers that you have to do daily coach 486 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: and the football team, I've got a guy that's got 487 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: his hand on the pulse of personnel around the league 488 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: and also is constantly trying to maneuver my roster to 489 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: make it the most favorable it can be for everybody involved. 490 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I just love what John Robinson does. John 491 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: Robinson is a hustler. This move, this trade was quintessential 492 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: John Robinson. He is constantly taking one thing turning it 493 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: into two and three things. You know. The man is 494 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: just constantly turning things over and getting these amazing deals 495 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: that in a year, in six months, you're like, oh, well, 496 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what was it. Still even if Korea is 497 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: a backup player, now what if he becomes a starter 498 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: and a star, then that's a different story. But even 499 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: if he's just a rotational backup player for the next 500 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: two seasons. That's a great deal in this league. Like 501 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: that's huge, that's huge. And again, as I said, every 502 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: player does not have to be a Hall of Fame player, right, 503 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, that's just not the way this league works. 504 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: But you do need guys that you can depend on 505 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: it and as I say, that's when you have to 506 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: when you know how this league works. But the other 507 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: thing about it is, and again I'll just say this, 508 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: a lot of times, when guys become general managers, and 509 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: I've seen it, you know, throughout the thirty three years 510 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: I've been in this league, all of a sudden, they 511 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: sit in the corporate office and they you know, figure, 512 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: it's anytime you want to walk into John Robinson's office 513 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: right now, And I don't do that a lot, but 514 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, he's grinding tape, right He's grinding tape, 515 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: and then once the season starts, he'll be on the road. 516 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's a boots on the ground guy 517 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and those kind of guys that I mean, he just 518 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: gets it. And so to me, that makes me, as 519 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: a head coach, would feel very very good. All right, 520 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: speaking of Hall of Fame players, you got us the 521 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: chance in Pittsburgh to speak with the Hall of Fame 522 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: player Joe Green. Not even arguably he is one of 523 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: the greatest players in the history of this game. He 524 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: thirteen years of unparalleled excellence playing in the defensive line, 525 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: famous for the Steelers. But you certainly knew him as 526 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: a player from the Steelers, but you came to know 527 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: him in a different way. Well, yeah, for eight years. 528 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he was my defensive line coach for eight 529 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: years at Arizona. You know, I hired him. And I'll 530 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: give you I'll give you a little story. You know, 531 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six when I got the coordinators job 532 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: from Chicago in Arizona, you know, Don Shula was retiring, 533 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: and one of the first calls I got about coaches, 534 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: because you start to assemble coaches was Don Shula. Don 535 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: Shula called me, you know, and and he said, Coach Mac, 536 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: would you you know Joe Green has worked here for me, 537 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: would you interview him? And of course I'm talking to 538 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: Don Shooter and I said, I said, yes, sir, absolutely, 539 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: And so then Joe called me. Joe called me about 540 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: maybe four or five hours later, and so we talked 541 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: and I said, Joe I'd like you to come in 542 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: and so, you know, I interviewed him and without a doubt. 543 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: And at the time, we had we had some players 544 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: that I felt like really needed, you know, some direction, 545 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: and you know, Eric Swan being one of them. We 546 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: ended up drafting Simeon Rice. I mean, we had Andre Wadsworth. 547 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we had some real players, and Joe Green 548 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: brought such instant credibility to that room. But more more 549 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: than that, I mean people that know him as you know, 550 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: as a as the player and what he was, and 551 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: you got to talk to him some. Mike. Uh, this 552 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: is a very very good human being, very introspective, very 553 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: had you know, really understands this game, understands this league. 554 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean it was it was eight great 555 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: years with Joe. Joe's Joe's a very close friend right now, 556 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: and we'll be for what was the one piece of 557 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: instruction you gave me in preparing for the interview. Don't 558 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: call him mean He's that's the first thing. Not refer 559 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: to him as mean Joe Green. No, because he you know, 560 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: right off the bat, you know, he said, that's not 561 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: what my mother named me. Why did he feel that way? 562 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean mean joke. Of course he 563 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: came from North Texas. While he was there, they got 564 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: a North Texas story. They became the mean green I 565 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: mean that was that well that that that's why. But 566 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and he really felt like you know, 567 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: people when if you just walk up to him and say, hey, 568 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: mean Joe, it's like you know him, well, you don't 569 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: know him, you know what I'm saying. And so he 570 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: would and I mean, I could go through so many stories. 571 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Let me tell you North Texas story. We got time. 572 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: He's from Temple, Texas. Okay, where is Temple Texas. It's 573 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: right between Houston and Dallas. Okay, it's you know, it's 574 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: it's all right. He's from Temple Texas. And he was 575 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: a really good player in high school. But they weren't 576 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: a great high school team. You know. It's one of those. 577 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: And of course Joe was a was a phenom. But 578 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, there were no Southwest Conference schools you know 579 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: that talk to him because that was back in a 580 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, that was back in a different time. And 581 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: so he got a chance to go up and visit 582 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: North Texas. All right, Now, he said, when he went 583 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: up to visit you know, it's colder up in that 584 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: part of Texas than it is down in Temple. So 585 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: he only only all he had to wear was blue jeans. 586 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: He had a T shirt and then he had his 587 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: letter jacket and that's all he had to wear. Wow. 588 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: And so he said, he goes up, goes up to 589 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: the office and they have him sitting outside waiting to 590 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: talk to the head coach, you know, to see if 591 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: then you know, they're basically going to you know, talk 592 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: interview him and see do we want this kid on 593 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: scholarship or do we we want him around here? So 594 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: he said, he went into the restroom. Okay, He went 595 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, took his jacket off and started doing 596 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: pushups so that he'd looked bigger to him when he 597 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: walked into the so that they would think, maybe, he said, 598 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Coach Mike, I just went in there and started doing 599 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: push ups, push ups, push ups, so at least they 600 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: would think I was a little bigger than I really was, 601 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: and so they'd give me a dan. How about that. 602 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: I think it turned out okay for him. He did 603 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: some good push ups, he certainly did. We had a 604 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: chance to visit with him on Titans Radio and You're 605 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: not gonna hear a lot of Steelers on the OTP. 606 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: But this is Joe Green and some interesting comments about 607 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: I think what happened with the Steeler organization, what has 608 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: been their key to success over a half century now, 609 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: and then his thoughts on the new lowering the helmet rule. 610 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: This is from Titan's Radio, courtesy of our friends Rhet 611 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: Brian and all the good folks at Titans Radio. Joe 612 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Green from Saturday's Titans Steelers Titans Countdown nineteen sixty nine. 613 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: You're selected fourth overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers. And most 614 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: people would think, oh, that's a great thing if they 615 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: think of today's football. The Steelers are this franchise that 616 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: for nearly fifty years has been admired, has been consistent. 617 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: But Joe, at that moment, being drafted by the Pittsburgh 618 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: Steelers was not a good thing, was it. Absolutely not? 619 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, pride of me being drafted Pittsburgh. The year 620 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: before they won two ball games, and the year before 621 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: that they won two and you know, looking back on 622 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: the history, at that time, we had never won the championship. 623 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: So when coach No came in sixteen ninety, he's drafted 624 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: me and after a couple of years were more than 625 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: a couple. After a few years, we've got to that 626 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: goal that he said we were. What our goal was 627 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: when we when he first came was to win a 628 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He wasn't talking about that year, but that's 629 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: the goal every year, and eventually we got there. Yea, 630 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: by nineteen seventy two you were a contender and then 631 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: you were on your way to winning Super Bowls. Was 632 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: there any one thing that you think did it to 633 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: turn this entire franchise around. I believe that it was consistency, 634 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: a message coming from the head coach coaching OS. When 635 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: we were losing, he always told us that if we 636 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: did the things that he was asking for. There was 637 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: a list of things that he was talking about. It 638 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: that we had done those things. Protect the football, protect 639 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback, make tackles, no turnovers. It would put us 640 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: in a position to win. And when we started to 641 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: win ball games, you could see us not having the turnovers, 642 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: having quality for possessions, and not making mistakes that he 643 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: was He said all the time, the states kill you. 644 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: And we eliminated a lot of those things, and when 645 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: we did, we started to see us win ball games. 646 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: And he never never deterred from that message. He was 647 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: always he was very, very consistent. And in that man, 648 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: why was coach No so special and and why is 649 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: he one of the all time greats to ever coach 650 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: this game? Well, in my view, um, he was. He 651 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: was trustworthy, he was truthful. Um. You know, he demanded 652 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: um consistency from the players all the time. He didn't 653 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't play favorites. Um. He tweeted us 654 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: all the like and he but he treated us this 655 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: team as men. You know, he told us when we 656 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: came there each each year it was the philosophy was 657 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: God family in football. And that's kind of the way 658 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: we saw it. And over time, you know, his message 659 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: was was so sound that each year the players would 660 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: understand then that and the players carres the message to 661 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: the locker room and it start to build on this 662 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: step year after year after year. And I think that 663 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: was that was the one thing again about the consistency 664 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: of of Coach No. He didn't he didn't change when 665 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: we were losing. We kept doing the same thing over 666 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And I was one of 667 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: those guys saying, well, why don't we change. We keep 668 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: losing and none of this stuff is working, but he 669 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: stayed with it. What did change was was the players, 670 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: the person of the personnel. Here's the thing the rest 671 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: of the league admires so much, is since the merger 672 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy, the Pittsburgh Steelers have been the most 673 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: consistent franchise in the entire NFL in your mind. And 674 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: I know they've had downed years and and that that happens, 675 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: but for the most part, the Steelers there every single year. 676 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Why has it continued from your time to today for 677 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: the Steelers to be this outstanding at organization. It's it's 678 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: about the Steeler mentality. The Steeler organization as a whole, 679 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: instilled u in the in the organization by the chief 680 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: mister Rooney, and carried on by by his son, Daz 681 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: Dan Rooney. Dan was probably the UM the most important 682 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: person in the organization because he he helped solidified the 683 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: philosophy and the way we were going to do business, 684 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: and it carried on you after year after year. And 685 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: it's in the hand of his son now Art, And 686 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: I think that Dan left the the legacy and the 687 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: future of the organization in very good hands. Um he 688 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: put everyone in the organization was everyone was imported from 689 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: the guy that h that that worked in the in 690 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: the locker rooms to to the president and all down 691 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: the line. Everybody was and Dan's philosophy, he was was 692 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: treated the same because everybody, everybody made a contribution in 693 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: their own ways. And that has that has stood the 694 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: test of time. You know, as you said, there have 695 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: been some sent some issues, some some glisses every now 696 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: and then. But you know, I found out that when 697 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: we put as individuals, when we put ourselves above the team, 698 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: then that's when we have issues. That's when we have problems. 699 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: And that that is what what change the the Pittsburgh 700 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Steelers and any football team, any team, when you have 701 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: individuals that put themselves above the rest of the team, 702 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: that's an issue, that's a problem. As you said that 703 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: we came along fifty years ago, somewhere around that time 704 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: when the Steelers started to build the philosophy and the 705 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: consistency of competing with championships year in and year out. 706 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people that's involved in that 707 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: fifty years of history of putting together the Steelers franchise 708 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: and stealing mentality and it's it's it's we talk about 709 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: a culture. That's that's that's that word is thrown around 710 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these days. Culture and that's important. It 711 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: took the Steelers many, many, many years to build that 712 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: culture and it's like putting on through the clothes. That's 713 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: who we are. But it doesn't taste much to destroy that. 714 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't take much at all. And every team in 715 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: the league it's time to establish a culture of being competitive. 716 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: View it in your album. That's right exactly, that's what 717 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for. The group up there in New England 718 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: has it. I don't know who else. Finally, Joe Green, 719 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: let me ask you. Last year you wrote a book 720 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Built by Football. You wrote that with John Finklin. That's 721 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: very personal book about about what the game, what the 722 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 1: game meant to your life and in so many different ways. 723 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed what you had to say and 724 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: again how personal it was. So as we read up, 725 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: I ask you about this game that you love so much, 726 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: are you pleased with the game, with how the game 727 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: of football is evolving, particularly with the issue of safety. 728 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: I think you have to travel through the territory that 729 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: we're in right now to get to safety. Complete safety. 730 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for now. We're in the rough 731 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: spots right now where the collisions, the helmet, the helmet things. 732 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: That's very, very difficult, and it's not it's not just 733 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: the mindset. The mindset can change it a bit. And 734 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this this this I show image of 735 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: going out there trying to destroy the opposition. But when 736 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: when you're trying to make a tackle. We've talked from 737 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: the beginning that you're talking with your shoulders, with your pads. 738 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: But the thing about that is what's connected to your shoulders. 739 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Where your shoulders go, your head is going to go. 740 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: That's there's no getting around it. And that's where we 741 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: are and that's the difficult part. And that's the rough 742 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: part that we're in right now. We have to find 743 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: some kind of space in that where it is in 744 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: there where there is a bit more safety and taking 745 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: away some of these uh, helmet to helmet collisions. Um. 746 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: And it's a rough past that we're in. But you know, 747 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: I have to say, as a defensive player, which all 748 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: of these things seems to come down on that, I 749 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: think we have to be patient and be willing to 750 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: learn how to get to the other side. And right 751 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: now it's it's we are in the A in a tough, 752 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: tough face. Okay, coming out of that, I want to 753 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: hit a couple of things right here, um, coach. So 754 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: interesting to hear Joe Green, and thank you for that. 755 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: What an honor it was. I wrote down something he said, 756 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: when we put ourselves above the team, that's when we 757 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: have issues. That's when we have problems. That's the Pittsburgh Steelers. 758 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: That is what they have been is no one puts 759 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: themselves ahead of the team. I mean you don't like them, maybe, 760 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: but you have to give him credit. No, well, I 761 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: mean you've got to give him. I mean, that's one 762 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: of the iconic franchises in the league. I mean, if 763 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: you're just being honest and looking around in the and 764 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: of course Joe touched on it, you know, the continuity 765 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: that they've had there and and really you know, and 766 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: visit in talking with Joe in all the years that 767 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: I have and I would sit down and have some 768 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,479 Speaker 1: pretty good conversations with him, you know, trying to build 769 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: a franchise, which were the love that he had for 770 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: Chuck Nole and and the things and and and he 771 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: was he would you know Chuck wouldn't always tell them 772 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: what they wanted to hear, right, he would tell them 773 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: what the truth was and he never veered from the message. 774 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: And that was big, big, big with Joe too, because 775 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I mean he's you know, he would come in and 776 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: even with our players there in Arizona, you know, we 777 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: had a guy that was, you know, starting to think that, 778 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, the he invented the National Football League and 779 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: that the National Football League only started playing when we 780 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: drafted him. Joe would be real quick to get him 781 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: scored away with that stuff because it's so important. And really, 782 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: when you're around any of those guys, because a lot 783 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: of those Steelers came around, you know, to visit Joe 784 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: when he was coaching there for me, you can see 785 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: they all still had that same mindset. It's amazing, it 786 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: really is. So didn't specifically ask Joe about the rule, 787 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: but obviously we were talking about safety at the end. Amy, 788 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: Were you surprised by his reaction towards safety, you know, 789 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: not really. I think that his persona obviously is one 790 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: that's very aggressive and a tough player. But I think 791 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of hindsight now. I think there's a 792 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: lot of things that have come to light and people 793 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: are more educated and more aware. So I think it 794 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: was interesting that he said that it's going to be 795 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: dark for a while and we've got to get through 796 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: those dark times a little bit, but we will be 797 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: the better for it. On the other side, I think 798 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing a little bit right now. Things 799 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: are a little rocky. We're trying to figure out how 800 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: do we enforce this, how do we make it safer, 801 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: what can we really do? But in the end, we 802 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: are going to have a much better hindsight looking at 803 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: all of the ways that this game has become safer 804 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: for everybody. And I thought that that was a very 805 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: wise way of looking at it. I think Amy just 806 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: hit it right, and she's spot on with that, because 807 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, and Joe Green has wisdom. He has wisdom 808 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: because of who he was, how he played. What do 809 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: you And to me, I love the fact that you 810 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: did ask him, Mike, because it's such it's such a 811 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: hot button topic right now, and I would think that 812 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: most of our listeners are people that heard that and 813 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: are hearing it now. Would think, you know, that's an 814 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: unusual unusual statement coming from Joe Green, but That's what 815 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. When you really know Joe Green, there's 816 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: a lot of depth. There's a lot too that may 817 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: and he's very introspective. And I love I love the answer, 818 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: and I think Amy hit it right on. All right, 819 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: So let's give an answer about what's going to happen 820 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: with the OTP moving forward. Amy well we confetti or fireworks. 821 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: Amy Wells, Executive producer of the OTP. Tell us what 822 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: is going to happen going forward with the Official Titans Podcast. Well, 823 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: this has always been an audio medium. We are incorporating 824 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: a visual aspect. We're getting your eyeballs involved. So we 825 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: are going to be streaming the OTP live at nine 826 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: am on Thursday mornings, and we need to say Central time, 827 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: Central time. We have listeners in other times. You're right 828 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: nine am Central time. Do the math yourself wherever you 829 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: are listening on Thursday mornings on Titans online dot com, 830 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: on all Titans social media platforms. It is going to 831 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: be so fun. You can watch us try and figure 832 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: out what we're doing in here. It's very fun. Will 833 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: anybody Will anybody watch that? I hope? So I don't know, 834 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe no one watches it. And it's just 835 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: for my mom and dad. Well, then they would watch it. 836 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: So that's two. Yeah, you know, we've at least got two. 837 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: I will have, I can have. There's a lot of 838 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: people from Dallas, Texas to El Paso that we'll watch it. 839 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: We appreciate. Okay. So so we've got that part of 840 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. I can get some of Arizona watching, Okay, 841 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of La So we'll we'll 842 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get the NUER up slowly, but surely 843 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: we can canvass the country. That's the that's the whole idea. 844 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: We just get this thing rolling. Gonna do it once 845 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: a week, nine to ten Central time, Jim Wyatt will return. 846 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: I hope you will stop by Coach Maco. I mean 847 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: to me, this is this is his first class as 848 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sitting here right now looking at screens 849 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: with with all of our faces on it. I mean, 850 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: this is this is kind of real. It feels real. 851 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: It does feel real, and it's about to get more real. 852 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: It's about to get more real to be able to 853 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: see us. And here's the thing that's nice. Say you're 854 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: busy at nine am Central time, okay, a clear your schedule, 855 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: right b If you can't get there, we're going to 856 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: have it posted on Titans online dot com so you 857 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: can still watch it if you want to see our 858 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: shining faces. Or it's still going to be on iTunes. 859 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: It's still going to be wherever you download your podcasts, 860 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: so you can listen to it while you're driving and 861 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: working out. Does let me ask you this, Will you 862 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: take questions at Twitter? Will you ask if somebody tweets 863 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: a question, will you throw it out to the group. Well, Mike, 864 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of technology. I mean, will you have 865 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: your phone? You never put your phone down? Down right 866 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: now it's under my leg Hello, So yeah, probably, I 867 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: mean in theory, yes, that's something we could do. I'm 868 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out how to use some of 869 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 1: that technology. Well, this is going to be very exciting. 870 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: So after six months we've expanded from just audio and 871 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: audio is still great yep, to having a video version 872 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 1: because of this beautiful new radio studio here within Saint 873 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: Thomas Sports Park. What is going to happen in the 874 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: next there's no telling. Kind to get bigger and better. 875 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: We are growing fast. Coach, you guys, I am very impressed, 876 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: and I'm saying that in all seriousness, this is this 877 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 1: studio is impressive. It is it's first class. I really 878 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: really like it. Well, coach, you are first class. Thank 879 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Oh it's my pleasure. 880 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: Thanks Amy Wells as always, and looking forward to seeing 881 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: what you cook up starting on September sixth Thursday September six, 882 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: nine am Central, the video version of the OTP. In 883 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: all seriousness, I'm very very excited. I think that this 884 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: is maybe a really cool thing and hopefully it gives 885 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: all of our listeners a little behind the scenes look 886 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: were hats or something, and viewers see that's it and 887 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: it's no longer a broadcast, it's a telecast. It goes 888 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: from broadcast to telecast. Wow, good stuff. Thank you so 889 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 1: much for joining us on the O T. Pete