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Speaker 2: Hello, no, cute funny man. So my first year I

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Speaker 2: Well my second year the cities we used to go to.

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Speaker 2: Larry Brown used to start you if you was from

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Speaker 2: start was against Kobe and he had forty forty forty

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I couldn't believe it. It was easy. You

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Speaker 2: felt defeated when you left. I didn't feel defeated. I

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Speaker 2: was just like an aga, you know, so like just

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Speaker 2: a level you gotta get that. Yeah, man, this is

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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna be doing for a long time, so

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that was a welcoming. So Kobe gave

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Speaker 2: you a welcome. Yeah, it was like, first of all, welcome.

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Speaker 4: Live on location, New Orleans, Louisiana. The blackest one over

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Speaker 4: here laughing, he's always in the building.

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Speaker 3: But today we got a very special guest.

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Speaker 4: I love bro World champion Trevor Ariza sixteen years and

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Speaker 4: still going ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Risa, So Westchester High School. I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of history of Westchester. Definitely got that brother. We got

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Speaker 1: drafted in two thousand LA. Right out of high school.

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Speaker 1: I'm in my high school mode and yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: get cool with Brandon, and I get cool with Hassan,

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Speaker 1: and I started coming to the Westchester games and you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely was at our school a lot moment.

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Speaker 3: Definitely school mode, Like we're still still in high school.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about high school looks like.

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Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, Like I'm going to something I'm I'm familiar

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Speaker 3: High school always known for being a sports school. Happened,

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Speaker 3: you know when I got to l A, I used

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Speaker 4: West that listen, listen, what's wrong with these boys?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Listen? Whatever? Yeah, I know, I know, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What made you choose Westchester High School to be the

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Speaker 1: high school that you want to go and play basketball?

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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of schools and a lot of

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Speaker 1: schools anywhere. Tony Bland was my favorite player in high school,

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Speaker 1: So I used to playing. Yeah, I used to go

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Crenshaw, but Westchester was like because of

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Speaker 1: Tony B. I used to come to yall games. I

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Speaker 1: used to see y'all play. Your sophomore year, y'all was

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Speaker 1: like one of the top teams in America, not just

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Speaker 1: only in California. Y'all playing big time talent and so forth. On,

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Speaker 1: tell me about your sophomore year at What's just when

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Speaker 2: Messed my sophomore year, we had a lot of players

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Speaker 2: So you know, you gotta be like with it with them,

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Speaker 4: I was really seven five at the time, remember that.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember that they was ten deep. I remember

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Speaker 3: Y'all was up, y'all was subbing in like that.

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Speaker 1: I remember, y'all. Games used to be hype. Y'all used

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Speaker 2: Well, my sophomore year was the first year playing varsity

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Speaker 2: We played JV, ME and LB and Big Red Scott Cutley. Real, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So every day you have to really go to work

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect bond. I want you to tell

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, what I want. The part about that

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Speaker 4: You to tell is how you guys originated the whole

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Speaker 4: So my opinion of it is, like you said said,

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Speaker 2: Just you know, you do something dope, sweet play, you know,

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Speaker 2: they brought it back to the school. You know, we

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Speaker 2: dune the crowd, cracking, knuckle up, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Bottom shoot from half court, bottom shoot the half court.

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Speaker 1: I remember when we first started trying to do it,

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 1: So I was doing it a lot in this thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I used to come up there with us. I

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Speaker 3: He used to be in there practicing with us. So

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Speaker 4: I wasn't in my high school mood like you was

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Speaker 3: I was. I was a couple of years of mood.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to be up there as much as

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Speaker 1: Okayogel, what about your senior year, like you to play

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Speaker 1: with all these good teams with all this talent, You

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You got to be the leader of your team, your

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Speaker 2: For me, man, my senior year, my senior ye high school,

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Speaker 2: it was fun. I was able to I seen do

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Speaker 3: We got to travel, we got to do different things.

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Speaker 2: I say, the only thing that was bad about my

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Speaker 2: he went to work. That's that's probably like the like,

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Speaker 2: that's the one game your old senior year that you

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Speaker 3: Like that was it? You knew he was ready when

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Speaker 2: No, I been knew he was like that, though, Like

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Speaker 2: I started watching him from there and I was like,

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Speaker 1: You chose U c l A. And I know that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go to Florida. I was gonna go

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Speaker 2: I love I just love Billy Donovan and Billy D

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Speaker 2: Who was Who was your homead Uh White? James White White.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shout out James and Billy. You wanted to

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 2: Like, man, it was home. I just got scared at

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Speaker 1: I chose Saint John. I was going to go all

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Speaker 1: Moms could do that to you, for sure. I stayed

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Speaker 3: He's scared. You're scared. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: Then he ended up going to the Sunshine.

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Speaker 3: Came out there that caddy so I could raise up

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Speaker 3: my young boy right here. You know what I'm saying house,

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Speaker 3: I would have raised you up. You did that. How

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Speaker 4: Being out there, I got the vibe that, you know,

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Speaker 4: USC was kind of like the hood school.

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Speaker 3: What USC is a private school? I know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It was like it was like but like U c

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know about those rumors. Man,

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Speaker 3: what Waggy say that to us? This Swaggy say something?

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Speaker 2: Come on, you talk about nick. I'm just saying I'm trying. Well,

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Speaker 2: you tell me. Come on, man, No, of course not.

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Speaker 2: U c l A is a great school. It's beautiful,

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Speaker 2: beautiful campus, beautiful views, great education, great program, cret great.

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Speaker 3: Cheated.

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Speaker 4: That's when we came out. We came out throwing out

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Speaker 4: with the poll. My freshman or sophomore in one of

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Speaker 4: them years, you know, I got buckets, but we lost.

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Speaker 3: Who was on that team?

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Speaker 4: I really don't even remember. I don't I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: Shut up, man, your time in u c l A.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about your freshman year, your first year you

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Speaker 1: got there U c l A.

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Speaker 3: How you felt the only year I was nervous there

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Speaker 2: I remember going to the Wheelchair Classic I think you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I appreciate him like that. He was he was.

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Speaker 4: That's how I can remember remember the men they got

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Speaker 4: I now work with Shanny so but look, me and

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Speaker 3: What was it? Queen? It was queens, Queens be and

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Speaker 4: Sketchy ass areas and bowling alleys and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Shoot, got he got to the team?

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Speaker 4: My young player, Show me what's happening when we got

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Speaker 2: That was fun. That was a good time for real.

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Speaker 2: I blame you, Q, I blame you.

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Speaker 1: You get the opportunity now to play with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is like the Lost Angeles Lakers. You

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Speaker 1: grew up like watching Shaq and Kobe all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: What was that like when you heard like, I'm finna

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Speaker 3: The first I'm going back home to my mama. Foremost

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Speaker 3: my mom was gonna be right there. It was. I

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird because I didn't really want to

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play for the Clippers. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: I wanted to. I was like excited about that. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I would like to go to

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Speaker 2: he said, we're training you to the Lakers. We're in

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm trying to keep my composure and then

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Speaker 2: I'm never gonna play. I'm never gonna play.

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Speaker 3: But you get there and.

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Speaker 1: Like what I love about like you, I'll fit you,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm still mad about this this trade about you,

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Speaker 1: Like like I love Ryano Test that's my guy. I

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Speaker 1: feel like everything that he was doing. You was doing it.

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Speaker 1: You was just doing it at a young age. I

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Speaker 1: the open three, you was you was, you was scoring

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Speaker 1: to get traded all. I know you didn't because it

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I was kind of pissed about that,

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Speaker 1: but I was so happy for you them two years

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Speaker 1: like you was key. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The first year, I didn't get a chance to an

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Speaker 3: I broke my foot was out for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Plus we had good players too, so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: So when I did get opportunity, my teammates were like crazy,

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Speaker 2: That was Kobe. And then you got to look like trap.

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Speaker 2: Come on, we watched you work on that ship all

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Speaker 2: the time. Just shoot it. And you know, from then on,

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Speaker 3: I started hit seeing you hit the three, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: I remember being stupid hype when you got when you

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Speaker 3: I was like this. I was like, look at Cuddy

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Speaker 1: So finally play for l A and then that season

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Speaker 3: They look to you.

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Speaker 1: You get the confidence of somebody that you can't watch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and how does that feel?

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Speaker 2: It gives you the ultimate confidence because you're alongside your idol,

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Speaker 2: right and you plan with them, trying to win it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You see how hard it's like a dream, it's not real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: How was that for you when you first got to see,

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Speaker 4: like you said, how hard he working the work ethic

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Speaker 4: to literally witness it the reason he that good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it let me know that if I wanted to

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Speaker 2: and everywhere he was at, I was at when I

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Speaker 3: Because you knew you needed to get needed to do it.

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Speaker 2: I needed to figure out how to be better so

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Speaker 3: Yeah sixteen years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that dude, Like teams need your whiz them your knowledge,

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Speaker 1: the way you play, you do everything good.

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Speaker 2: I try to And that was the whole thing that

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Speaker 2: you can't just be a one trick ponent. You gotta

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Speaker 2: play no matter what, you got to learn how to play.

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Speaker 1: Because I know, I know you see guys out there now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, But your mind is so strong over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's an advantage time.

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Speaker 1: You know, you matter how good or strong or fast

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Speaker 2: That's why Brian is still how killer he is. He

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Speaker 2: so still all that Chris Paul, you know, they still

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Speaker 3: You to one himself.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we was truly proud of you, man,

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Speaker 1: like you showed your game and then it made you

439
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: a better player from then on. Even though you went

440
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: to another team, like you a better player.

441
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: I feel like you one of them players.

442
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: Like no, you're not the superstar player, but you a

443
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: key piece for a team to win a championship, right.

444
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: You know what.

445
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy though, because I always think that no one

446
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 2: journey is the same. Everybody has their own path, and

447
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: for me, my path was to just you know, touch

448
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: as many different people or whatever.

449
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: I enjoy that. That's how you got to look at it.

450
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad you look at it like that and you

451
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: understand it because when people fans from outside, they'd be like, oh,

452
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: you supposed to have been so and so, so and so, Like, yeah,

453
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: I was sowing so so and so in high school

454
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: and in college. But when you get to this league,

455
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: it's so much a different environment. It's about politics, is

456
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff that you might not get

457
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: the opportunities to be the best player that you think

458
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: you might be.

459
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's about timing. Like you said, timing always plays

460
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: a factor. And you know where you are what you

461
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: do Bright.

462
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 3: I'll tell you like this, like the average what is

463
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: the average year, like four or five years, the average

464
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: amount of time people average in the league. B you're

465
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: on your sixteen Yeah, it's crazy.

466
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: Feel like br you came in to though in two

467
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 4: thousand and four, it's twenty twenty.

468
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: You still now you feel like you.

469
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: Came in it like the kids now you triple O

470
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 4: g Loky, you know what I'm saying, Like for real,

471
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: sixteen years in, still out there doing it. Team, come

472
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: pick you up for your veteran presence, for what you

473
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 4: provide for a team that's trying to contind and what

474
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: you bring to the table. And it's you know what

475
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They acknowledge that, and.

476
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: Boy sixteen, that's that's a salute right there. Appreciate it. Man.

477
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: I just listened to y'all man, watch all the old

478
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: heads before me it out.

479
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: That's thinking about you. You got picked forty third.

480
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: I don't even know who, if anybody left from your

481
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 4: draft still playing or not, of how many or what

482
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: he you know what I'm saying. But regardless of what

483
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: that is, you got sixteen years in bro as the

484
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: forty third pick.

485
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: You know who used to like who? I used to

486
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: see in all the workouts when we was working out.

487
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: I used to see Tony Allen everywhere, Tya. I used

488
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: to see him everywhere. Yeah, every single time. Dog every

489
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: single time to them.

490
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: One of them guys that you see his career and

491
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: see how the success that he has, you appreciate it. Man.

492
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: He to me he never got to reach his full

493
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: potential because he got hurt. The year he got hurt,

494
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he was on his way to like

495
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: being offensively. Yes, yeah, you know what I'm saying, and

496
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: then like for him to like change his game, it

497
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: will still be the dog he was because he always

498
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: played hard defensively, but like to mentally have to understand

499
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: or lock in that this is the role I gotta

500
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: play to, you know, continue to do the things that

501
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: I love to do. Was that was like? That was

502
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: powerful for me? Man, that was crazy. I got a

503
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: lot of respect for that.

504
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: Man. Young boy is a doll.

505
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: I get a lot of respect for You're a journeyman.

506
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: You'd have been to a lot of teams, right.

507
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: And could you ever have thought you was going to

508
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 3: be a og a journeyman? All these words? Is a

509
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: young young boy? I never came in a young boy.

510
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: I never even I just kept my head down and

511
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: just tried to do what I do. Yeah, you're here? Yeah?

512
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: What city did you like the most that you appreciate this?

513
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: You didn't think like I might not even like this.

514
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: I think all the places that are being taught me

515
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: something or like something about it I can like. But

516
00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: the most probably, man, I don't know. Probaly New York.

517
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: I learned a lot in New York. I had to

518
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: say New York.

519
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: So we had Nate on here. He was talking about

520
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: when he did the X flax to Eddie. Remember that

521
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: laid for the plane. So you would not believe some

522
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: of the stuff, bro, like.

523
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: How mad was Malik rose. Yo. That was the one

524
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: that was like the first time that we all saw like, yo,

525
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: leak got another swig. Oh my god. He was Nate

526
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: the man flood. What did he do? He stopped up

527
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: the thing. He stopped up the showers, bro, and all

528
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: of the New York suits came up and and Malie

529
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: couldn't take a shower after the game.

530
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: But it was real light and it was you know,

531
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: like it was nasty, bro Eligue sweat hard as hell.

532
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: So he was like extra sweating. Bro.

533
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: Hold on, I was in that doing so all you

534
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: heard was I was like, remember they had to close.

535
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: The media heard it and everything.

536
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: He did what Bro, He put towels in the drains

537
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: of the shower.

538
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: That was just the wash rag. You just ain't throw

539
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 3: it out. He did what he just threw it in

540
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: and loved the whole shot. The ship was old. The

541
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: ship was old at the time. Bro.

542
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: So this ship claw in my line, all right? So

543
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: the ship clogged easy. That wasn't the first It was clogging.

544
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Too many showers on at one time. Yeah, But Nate

545
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: throws the towel in the joint like the wash rag

546
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: instead of throwing it out.

547
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: It's got the ben you're supposed to throw the town

548
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 4: until Nate threw it in the shower instead of damn

549
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: being oh Man.

550
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Bro Malik was about to kill him that night. Malik

551
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: was pissed. I said, yo, y'all, I better leave bro

552
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Man alone. He was, Yeah, he's shooting Malik. Hella strung,

553
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: but he's so strong.

554
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: So how was it playing with Chris Paul earlier when

555
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: you guys got a chance to play, It was it

556
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: was New Orleans, right, Chris, Yeah, I got to New Orleans.

557
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: CP watched basketball twenty four to seven. He's like, that's it.

558
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: That's all basketball. So he know every player, every offense,

559
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: every set.

560
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: He's like the teacher, but he's like aggravating because he

561
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: know every fucking thing.

562
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: It's like aggravate you.

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: But he's so smart, you know, and he understands plays

564
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: like two steps ahead. And that's crazy. That's how he

565
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: was getting out of stills. He knows all the players.

566
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what everybody doing, tense everything, you know everything.

567
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: You got to put that time in when you're watching

568
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: and you know what's going on.

569
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: Right, that's how he takes what thirty four. You know,

570
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: CP is an old head now so.

571
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, old head too than me, so yeah, but I

572
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: got you right with you with them.

573
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: So when you came up, who's the guys that you

574
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: was seeing? That you was seeing their games? Like I

575
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: want to be like that.

576
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: My favorite players.

577
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I got to sit up and watch

578
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: y'all play, you know. So the athleticism and excitement, you know,

579
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: the charisma y'all brought to the game. I enjoyed watching,

580
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, the passion all that, the toughness, it was crazy.

581
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: But the Jays, for sure, the Jays that was the

582
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: great ones. Remember the great ones I've ever seen. And

583
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the cool grazies first.

584
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: That because that's what we used to do them things

585
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: that come to us about a month before they come out,

586
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: and we will put them out. The thing go straight

587
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: to the mall, didn't go straight through West Sheter didn't

588
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: go straight. So we were going about photo places, Beverly Center,

589
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 4: Fox Heres.

590
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: We posted finished line for he got them all outside?

591
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Who else? Who's them players? That's just kind of stuck

592
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: out to you that it was like I used to

593
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: love I used to love Penny. Penny used to be

594
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: my favorite player. Kobe used to be my favorite I

595
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: got to play with all my favorite players.

596
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Penny was he was hurt in New York that he

597
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: was smart though he still had all like hisue, so

598
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: it was dope playing with him. I got to play

599
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: with Max T. Mac was one of my favorite players too.

600
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Mac was cold, was smooth. That was a headache game smooth.

601
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: That was so he used to be one of my

602
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: favorite players for real. So I got to play with

603
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: like all the players that I may growing up, and

604
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: it was it was sick.

605
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: So you played with with Penny, T, Mac and Kobe.

606
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: What's one thing you got from all three of them

607
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: that you kind of took with you that kind of

608
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: stuck with you?

609
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: Uh man.

610
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Penny taught me kind of how to think the game

611
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, from you know, a point

612
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: guard perspective. Even though I wasn't the point guard, I

613
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: got an opportunity just to pick his brain and see

614
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: how he see the game, so I could try to

615
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: implement whatever he was using in my position. Because again,

616
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: like I'm not, I'm a player that could do a

617
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: little bit of everything, Like you know, I glue, I'm

618
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: like the glue or whatever, So I could do.

619
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: A little bit of everything.

620
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody I could learn from my tried to and

621
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: since he was one of my favorite players, I learned

622
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: that from him. Kobe, like just the tenacity, like the relentlessness.

623
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: He was a killer on the court, Like every time

624
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: he stepped on the court, he wanted to kill you

625
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: and he would do whatever it took to win. Yeah,

626
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: and t Mac just was like he was so smooth.

627
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to learn how to be smooth, like how

628
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: he was smooth because it just looked effortless, like his

629
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: game was just easy.

630
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: That was amazing. Yeah, he was so cold. Now you're

631
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: on the team with.

632
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Famelo, Anthny like to be playing with them, it's like,

633
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: in all the knowledge that y'all have together, how is that?

634
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: Man? It's it's like it's like riding a bike. Man.

635
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: It's so easy to play with them because they just

636
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: so comfortable in their roles and they're you know what

637
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: they do that you just fit in. Like and I've

638
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: been a player to go to places and when I'm

639
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: at my best, I just fit right in, you know,

640
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't have to do too much of anything but

641
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: what I do. And so that's what's happened here in Portland,

642
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: and it's been great.

643
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: So far.

644
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: So we know you haven't been with Portland too long,

645
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: but how has it been and how were you looking

646
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: at it? You know, when you got to see Carmelo

647
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: get back into the league and with the team, and

648
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: how has it been so far with you getting to

649
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: play with him?

650
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: First of all, when I seen Mellow get back in

651
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: the league, I was very like, I was excited. I

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: felt like it was me or something. That's how excited

653
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: and happy for him I was. Because he's an unbelievable player.

654
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: You're a Hall of Fame player. To me, he's always

655
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: been able to put the ball in the basket no

656
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: matter who in front of him. So he's always had

657
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: my respect in that regards. But to actually get an

658
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 2: opportunity to play with him, you get to see how

659
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: what type of person he is, and I believe like

660
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: he's from what I see, is unbelievably smart person. You know,

661
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: I got a lot of intellect, So that's what I

662
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: admired the most. You know, although he's an unbelievable basketball player,

663
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: he gotta he's smart. And I enjoy.

664
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: Talking to people that got a lot of a lot

665
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 3: of sense, because this man right here don't got no sense.

666
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: I ain't got to try and assassinate my ketah, you know, can't.

667
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: That's true.

668
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: You say you talk all the ship when we're playing

669
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: FIFA saying that.

670
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: Now, hey listen here, this is what I want to

671
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: ask you because you are a poop poo with FIFA.

672
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: But when you first got your read, like the first

673
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: time you spent you feel like you spent like a

674
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: significant amount of money where you was like I need

675
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: this or I want this, and then I went and

676
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: got this. I had to take a little deep breath

677
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: after you got it, maybe.

678
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: Bout the house from one point four. I couldn't believe it.

679
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: I could not believe when was this At nineteen. I

680
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: had to make sure that my family was cool. You know, everybody,

681
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: every my mom, my brother, everybody was there.

682
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: So you dropped at one point four off the gate.

683
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I want to do is make

684
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: sure that my mom that nobody was straight.

685
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Now, usually people by the moth like a hundred, two

686
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars.

687
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: I was in California, bro, California is expensive, man.

688
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: Message.

689
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: That was your whole first year exactly rented up exactly.

690
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: I gots from a lot of mercy sixteen years later,

691
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 4: we are good to our family.

692
00:35:59,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: Bro.

693
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: Hey, this is what I wanted to talk to you

694
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: about though, Like a lot of people don't know this,

695
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 4: but I know this because we tight.

696
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: For real.

697
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 4: It was cool like that. Yeah, Like, how did you

698
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: get into and start doing like your businesses? Like, I

699
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: know you got a lot of Buffalo Wild Wings. I

700
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: remember last time I was at your crib, you was

701
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: showing me the plans for your newest one. So how

702
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: did you get into doing those? And clearly you've been

703
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 4: successful in them?

704
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

705
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: Man, I know just people that's smarter than me. I'm

706
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: very I don't think that I'm the smartest person nowhere.

707
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: I like to listen, I like to learn, and you know,

708
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: somebody asked me things that I like to do because

709
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: understanding that basketball ain't always gonna last forever, I got

710
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: an opportunity to actually put my mind in other places.

711
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: And you know that's what we came up with.

712
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: How dope was it for you? I felt like you

713
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: was following Magic's paths. You got to actually put your

714
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: Buffalo Wild Wings in the same lot where he used

715
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: to have Magic John's and Fridays.

716
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 3: Right, it was the Magic Johnson theater is closely That's

717
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: what it was.

718
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: So how was that to be doing something that you

719
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 4: basically saw magic, dude?

720
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean it was just I mean, obviously it's not

721
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: to the you know, the level that he's at.

722
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Listen when you was going to this this movie theater

723
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: and now you got your own lot with a business

724
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: of yours.

725
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's love.

726
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: It's humbling, man, because when you do things, you try

727
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: to I mean, I'm not someone that likes to like

728
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: publicize things.

729
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: That I do.

730
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: That's hard to say. It's all love, you know. I

731
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: try to do things to help everybody. So there wasn't

732
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: nothing there for twenty five years in that neighborhood, and

733
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: it was a great opportunity to you know, help the

734
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: people in the neighborhood and you know, obviously start a

735
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: business and you know, Buffalo Wild Wings needed somewhere to

736
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: go over there, that needed minorities to get into business.

737
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: And that's how that's how we ah, that's how it worked, correct.

738
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: But to me, you just represent people to go second round.

739
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 4: People that don't get picked in the first round. It

740
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: is disappointed and think this or that, Like Trevor Reza

741
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: forty third pick second round sixteen years later. You know

742
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, trophies, money, You know what I'm saying, champions.

743
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: The second rounder. That's a question. Y'all need to start

744
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 2: asking for.

745
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: Real, for real, so you put some respect on this that.

746
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm not talking about me.

747
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm not who is you know, Nah, I can remember

748
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: off the top of my head, like Mike Red was

749
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: taking round in my dress, say a round in my dress.

750
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: I think you were just the cold the second second round,

751
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: the second old.

752
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: But now that's what I'm saying, Like y'all all everybody

753
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: we just talked about, those are those are examples to

754
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: let whoever it is out there. You know what I'm saying,

755
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: No that you you know what I'm saying, Like d

756
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: Wade wasn't McDonald's all American? Look at him? You know

757
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like who he is and what he's accomplished.

758
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: So it's like, none of that stuff means you. You

759
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: not gonna be this or you're not gonna be that

760
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: because everybody you work you just said timing, timing is everything.

761
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: It's timing, timing is everything. Like what was your biggest

762
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: gross perk? When you hit your biggest gross pert.

763
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably liking the tenth or eleventh.

764
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: Grade, right, like that's early for some people. Yeah, you

765
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Some people stopped growing in ninth grade.

766
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: Some people grow after tenth grade, eleventh grade.

767
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: As long as I have my length to lock you up,

768
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: that's all I needed. That's what That's all you need.

769
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: You can give a step when you got.

770
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: You don't remember when I was fat, you coming through

771
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: giving buckets. I came through all that doing put like

772
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: thirty six on y'all.

773
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. I don't remember that.

774
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: Where it's googleable, it's good to say it's google you

775
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: with us or against us? Then you might have been

776
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: with us the Knicks. Still, I don't know if you

777
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 4: was with us or against us yet the white and remind.

778
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Remind I ben cut start bench cut T yeah s

779
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: T mat kd Lebron'sah, who you start?

780
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: Who you bench? Who you cut? You're a small forward,

781
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: right we small folds? Right? Yeah, that's a that's the

782
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: that's sick.

783
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, start being cut damn T mac t mac

784
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and lebron'say, three small folds start, bench cut,

785
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: and you know about all three.

786
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: So like.

787
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: And like, what is the what is the scenarios there?

788
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: Scenario y'all? Is there any situation?

789
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: So who you're gonna start, who's gonna bench, who you're

790
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: gonna cut? I got a good follow up one, don't worry.

791
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: You gotta follow up one? Sh everything all right? So

792
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: I probably was damn. I probably would start. I will

793
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: start Brian, Yeah, and then k D come off the

794
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: bench and you're gonna hurts me, but yes, you're gonna

795
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: cut the man that hurts. But yes, I'm hurt by that.

796
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: That hurts.

797
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: That hurts my heart. Let me ask you this. Paul

798
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: Pierce Mellow Bird, No, he ain't going Bird. I've never

799
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: seen Bird play.

800
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: I do, but I'm saying like I never played against bird.

801
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: Bird is cold, though sick. I watched some I watched

802
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: some clips of Bird the other day.

803
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: Man he was sick. He had footwork too.

804
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything around the elbows and you couldn't block him

805
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: like a shot, Start.

806
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 4: Bench cut, Paul Pierce, Mellow Scottie Pipping.

807
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: That's a good pick right there, mixed. I'm gonna start Scottie.

808
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: I like Scotty. I love Scotty and then Mellow. I

809
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: like Mellow's game. I always like Mellow's game from high school,

810
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: you know bench Paul l A. I love Paul, my

811
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: big homie, and I love I'm sorry.

812
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, who's hardest to guard? For you?

813
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: If you had to say k Mellow Lebron rank hardest

814
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: to guard? KD for sure, the hardest of guard everybody.

815
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: He's the hardest to guard because he shoots from half.

816
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: He's seventh. You can dribble the ball, he's long, he

817
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 4: he's athletic, he can post. You can't block and shot.

818
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: Oh except for me. I'm blocked the shot a couple

819
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: of times now. But I mean, come on, like, he's

820
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 4: seven to one with a ratchet. You shoot from half.

821
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: He's called and he ready to go. He's unbelievable. You

822
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: remember the first body you called? Like, who's the first

823
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: person you dunked on?

824
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh? Jam? The first person I dunked on? And Jam?

825
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: I think it was then Wallace. That's a high fellow.

826
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: What mean was this? And Detroit? Detroit?

827
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 2: I think he was like defensive player of the Year

828
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: and this one was in the dang he was swollen.

829
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: Action figure man WHOA.

830
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: I guess he didn't check this report. I couldn't chew,

831
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: so anything was to the can. Everything was to the can,

832
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: one hand, two hands, it was. I was on the

833
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: left side and eighteen feet away from THEA. Didn't space

834
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: out to the three point line at that time, remember,

835
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: because I couldn't shoot right, so I would catch it

836
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: a punk fake, one dribble to the basket, took off.

837
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: He jumped boom, dunk that ship so hard I was

838
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: I thought I missed, but I saw a Channon's face.

839
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: Channing was tripping, but we was down by a dove,

840
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: so so it didn't matter.

841
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: But that it was crazy. Yeah, I got one. See

842
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: Frizzle let you know it had chance, and he let

843
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 4: me know for sure.

844
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: You played for the great Phil Jackson triangle offense. Like

845
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: I knew the triangle offense my whole career. It's one

846
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: fucking play with a thousand fucking counters to it. Like,

847
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: how was it playing in the triangle offense? I feel

848
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: like the triangle You know, it's crazy, it was one play,

849
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: but I feel like the triangle offense fitted my game. Yeah, perfectly.

850
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: I always wanted to play in How was it for you.

851
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: For sure it was.

852
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: It was like a perfect fit for for me because

853
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: it was easy. Plus I got to play with the

854
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: greatest player in the world, so it was even that

855
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: much more easier than you had Pow then you had

856
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: buying them Fishing Lamar all those dudes who was just

857
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: like unbelievably talented. So again, all I had to do

858
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: was just come in and fit in and make a

859
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: shot or something, and he got rings, I got championship.

860
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: I got one champion trying to get another one.

861
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: As you said that, by them, Yeah, he was one

862
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: of the ones that didn't. I feel like he kept

863
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: on getting hurt. He didn't get the opportunity to see

864
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: how really good he really could have been. Right, you

865
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You get them players on teams

866
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: that you know, they don't get the opportunity. They show

867
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: flashes and then then get hurt. And I know it's

868
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: a little more, it's power, it's Kobe.

869
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: But Binom was like an unsong hero. Can you talk about.

870
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: By them, He just controlled the paint, blocked all shots

871
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: that come, or if he didn't block him, he was

872
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: altering them, you know, getting big rebounds. He worked on

873
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: his game, he improved like with his jump hooks and

874
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: all that shooting the fifteen foot. This is before you know,

875
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: big getting better and better. Yeah, so he would work

876
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: on this game. Who got better and his confidence built

877
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: over the time that he was, you know, becoming who

878
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: he was. But you know, he got hurt a lot,

879
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: so that kind of slowed him down, probably took away

880
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: some of his passion for the game. Yeah, how long

881
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: I've been telling him to do his job since I've

882
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: been here.

883
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 3: Job.

884
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: Make sure when you introduce my boy, Hey man, don't

885
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: touch my body like that boy.

886
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: Champion, NBA World Champion, Trevor Reed, don't.

887
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: You spend as soon as the red lights go off

888
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: on this tam I'm gonna kick his ass.

889
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna kick his ass. Donna talk.

890
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 4: Boy, the blackest one him, he created the black box.

891
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 4: That is what we give y'all little merchandise. And that's

892
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that's how I handle him. This,

893
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: my little this, I've been raising him up for.

894
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: Some time, Hans me. You see, you see how you

895
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: gotta do it when you're a young boy.

896
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that that's yours. Then we

897
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: got very very special sponsors who they also are sponsors

898
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: with the NBA. Now, uh, but we got the special

899
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: Knuckleheads edition.

900
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: You see your boys on that. Man. We came a long.

901
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Way boy doing big things that you can't even rub

902
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: that off.

903
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: Man. I'm trying to be like, you know what I'm saying.

904
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: This is the world champion. Yes, thank you, in his

905
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: sixteenth year and.

906
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: Still going and still going Trafford Reason, my little brother,

907
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: thank you. Man. I finally appreciate that that was that

908
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: was from the heart. I appreciate it. Y'all felt that

909
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: out there, then y'all everybody that you had to feel that.

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