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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody, John Middlecop Go Low Pod,

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Speaker 2: Hope everyone is having a good week.

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Speaker 3: A lot going on, a lot of moving parts. Here's

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Speaker 2: We usually do the mailbag at the end, but there's

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Speaker 2: not a lot going on in the golfing world, so

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Speaker 2: I thought I'd just bang that bad boy out before Soble.

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Speaker 2: So what we will do is at Golo pods the Instagram,

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Speaker 2: you fire in the dms and you get your questions

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Speaker 2: answered on the show. I will do that at the

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Speaker 2: top of the show, and then I talked to Soble

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Speaker 2: for like twenty five thirty minutes a lot about other

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Speaker 2: stuff because this week TPC Craig Ranch, he gives a

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Speaker 2: couple of long shots, and then next week we will

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Speaker 2: go deep in depth. We got our second major of

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Speaker 2: the year at the PGA Championship. I've already got some

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Speaker 2: ideas for some bets and yeah, we'll kind of rock

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Speaker 2: and roll from there next week, Big PGA Championship Show.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna I tend to place pretty big

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Speaker 3: Here's what I was thinking about doing.

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Speaker 2: Got a quick thought on this weekend, but not a

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Speaker 2: lot's going on. We got the major championship right around

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Speaker 2: the corner. We will dive deep into some gambling thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I've already been looking at the card. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a Xander Shaffley, Tony Fenow, Max Homer kind of area

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Speaker 2: shot Gary Woodland hundred to one, but beside Wyndam Clark,

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Speaker 2: And really cool to watch. And obviously Wyndham Clark's story,

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Speaker 2: as always. So just firing those dms. They are wide

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Mike again, sliding those dms at golopod

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Speaker 2: Do you think Scotty and John Rohm benefit from coming

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Speaker 2: You can be a great college quarterback and then struggle

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Speaker 2: You'll never hear from me again. Good luck, Hopefully the

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The reason I hold Tiger to such high esteem is

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Speaker 2: Read him on the Action Network. I dove into that website.

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Speaker 1: See, I think golf is easier just because I've been

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Speaker 1: Not touching it, not touching. I told you before the

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Speaker 1: that would have been a really bad thing. We went there,

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Speaker 4: You know, some people have a lot, some people have

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Speaker 5: But look, honestly, just like break up with the girl

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Speaker 1: I'll see you later. Let me know if you need anything, references, whatever,

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Speaker 2: It's weird, like the Tiger I grew up on, you know,

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Speaker 2: Because obviously a smart guy, but he's just let down

432
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Speaker 2: his guard a little bit. It does feel that's still

433
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Speaker 2: an element of his life that he is a little

434
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Speaker 2: bit of throwback that he's holding on to, just not

435
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Speaker 2: as tactful, you know.

436
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for guy who has cheerfully crafted an image, a

437
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Speaker 6: career practice schedule, like everything about it has been like

438
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Speaker 6: so carefully monitored and crafted and figured out that it

439
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Speaker 6: feels like there are certain tricks of the personal life.

440
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Speaker 1: They are like, all right, let's throw stuff up against

441
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Speaker 1: the wall and see what happens. Let's try this, and

442
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just look and I hope that

443
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Speaker 1: he is able to bounce back from this professionally. I

444
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Speaker 1: hope he's able to bounce back personally privately all that

445
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I certainly won't be writing about it,

446
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, you and I can kind of, you know,

447
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: just talk about it a little bit on here, but

448
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm going to sit here and do

449
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Speaker 1: entire radio shows on Tiger's personal life. I didn't do

450
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Speaker 1: that back in two thousand and nine, certainly not going

451
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Speaker 1: to do it now, but uh, I don't know. Hope

452
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Speaker 1: we'll begin focus on his health and his golf moving

453
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Speaker 1: forward now.

454
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Speaker 2: Well, one thing's definitely different, right. The breakup with Stevie

455
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Speaker 2: Williams was clearly pretty ugly, right. It was not a

456
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Speaker 2: smooth break, you know, I think you know better than me.

457
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Speaker 2: The same kind of feels like ghost for fill and

458
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Speaker 2: bones some of these famous breakups, you know, the two

459
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Speaker 2: most famous guys.

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Speaker 3: The last couple decades.

461
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Speaker 2: Rugly, this it's hard to even call it a split

462
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Speaker 2: because it's not like Tiger's playing, you know.

463
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Speaker 3: But this, clearly he's.

464
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Speaker 2: Going to another bag full time, feels much smoother, at

465
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Speaker 2: least publicly, And anyone that's followed or read about Tiger's

466
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Speaker 2: life sometimes publicly doesn't always follow what's actually happening. But

467
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take this on face value because Joe

468
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Speaker 2: and Tiger honestly feel like a justin Thomas and Tiger,

469
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Speaker 2: like the friendship and their closeness is really real. Tiger's

470
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Speaker 2: obviously much in a different place in terms of age

471
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Speaker 2: than he was with Stevie Williams. From everything, I'm sure

472
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Speaker 2: you know you've talked to a lot of people over

473
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Speaker 2: the last six seven days about this.

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Speaker 3: What have you heard about the split?

475
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Speaker 2: Can't They said, he didn't ask Tiger, just all the

476
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Speaker 2: different details from talking around.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, these things usually go from like manager to manager

478
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Speaker 1: or you know, kind of go around the players themselves.

479
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Speaker 1: There's very there's very few times when a player will

480
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Speaker 1: call another player, especially I mean, I guess it's a

481
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Speaker 1: unique situation, but that part doesn't surprise me. What the

482
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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway for me is And remember you and I

483
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Speaker 1: were doing this pod last week when the news came down,

484
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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there going, look, I don't think it's

485
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Speaker 1: a one week thing. I think it might be more

486
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Speaker 1: than just one week. I think this could be a

487
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Speaker 1: long term deal for Can't Lay and Joelkava. And within

488
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Speaker 1: a couple of hours we learned that that indeed was

489
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Speaker 1: the case. And so for me, the biggest takeaway here

490
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Speaker 1: is that Tiger understands. And I know a lot of

491
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Speaker 1: people said, oh, yeah, well, Tiger wasn't playing a lot

492
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Speaker 1: of golf before this anyway, so we know he's not

493
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Speaker 1: going to play anytime soon. To me, this is Tiger

494
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Speaker 1: saying no, Like it's not I'm not gonna play soon,

495
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Speaker 1: like I don't have a golf courier. Moving forward, he

496
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Speaker 1: might play some events. He might play the Masters every year,

497
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Speaker 1: might play the Open Championship every year if he's healthy

498
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Speaker 1: enough to do it. But this is Tiger essentially waving

499
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Speaker 1: the white flag and go, And I like, I can't

500
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Speaker 1: in good conscience see a guy like Joe Lokava, who's

501
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Speaker 1: one of the best caddies of all time, on the

502
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Speaker 1: bench fifty weeks out of the year, forty nine weeks

503
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Speaker 1: out of the year, just so he can come work

504
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Speaker 1: for me when I'm going out to try to play

505
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Speaker 1: a major championship once in a while. And so it's

506
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Speaker 1: taken Tiger a couple of years to get to this point.

507
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that if Joelakava had come to Tiger

508
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Speaker 1: with this two years ago that Tiger would have had

509
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Speaker 1: the same response. But now the fact that Tiger has

510
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Speaker 1: this response, I think that speaks volumes about what he

511
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Speaker 1: thinks about his own future.

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Speaker 3: He a little trivia question for you.

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Speaker 2: I don't even actually know the answer, but obviously there's

514
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Speaker 2: been several caddies, including Joelacava, that have won multiple majors

515
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Speaker 2: with multiple you know, would he be the first if

516
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Speaker 2: him and can't lay win a major to win a

517
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Speaker 2: major with three different guys, I.

518
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Speaker 1: Would say unequivocally no, top of my head.

519
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Speaker 2: Bones obviously, Phil Justin Thomas, Stevie Williams, and Adam Tiger, Woods, Lacava,

520
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Speaker 2: Tiger and and Freddy Couple's correct.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Cova on Freddy's bag when Freddy

522
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Speaker 1: won Masters.

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Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't have the answer to that off the

525
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Speaker 1: top of my head, just like you don't. I'm going

526
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Speaker 1: to say that there absolutely had to be somebody back

527
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Speaker 1: in the day who had done it.

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Speaker 2: Not counting the Masters caddies that always just you know,

529
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Speaker 2: for a long period of time, right, you couldn't bring

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Speaker 2: your own caddy to the Masters. I forget the date

531
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Speaker 2: that changed, but that there might be a guy that

532
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Speaker 2: you know clearly rattled off some dubs you know, in

533
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Speaker 2: the forties, fifty sixty, seventies.

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Speaker 3: But that's something that.

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Speaker 2: You know in your radio show. Just that's a good

536
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Speaker 2: one for you. Last time we talked, Rory hadn't talked.

537
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Speaker 2: We all kind of assumed what he was going to say,

538
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: and he kind of admitted it, like I just needed

539
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: a break, was over, it needed to reset. Then I

540
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: sat down on my couch Thursday. He played pretty well

541
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Speaker 2: on Friday, I mean he was atrocious. It was like

542
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Speaker 2: it looked like me. I mean, he was hitting it

543
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Speaker 2: all over the yard. He was terrible. Not a great

544
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Speaker 2: week for Rory. Is he going a little NBA style

545
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Speaker 2: load management? And he's just it's just going to be

546
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Speaker 2: kind of tiger Wood styles looking about these three four

547
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Speaker 2: majors every single year and the rest of the season,

548
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Speaker 2: like he's just going to try to peak next week.

549
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Speaker 3: And then in a month and then at the Open.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of what it feels like.

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Speaker 1: I guess. So, I mean, look, this is what all

552
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Speaker 1: the elite level players are trying to do, quite frankly,

553
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Speaker 1: is you know I want my game to peak four

554
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Speaker 1: times a year. If you're not going and I maintained

555
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Speaker 1: this all the time. Look, if you're not going to

556
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Speaker 1: be playing your best golf going out to Quail Hollow,

557
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Speaker 1: and I know it's a designated event, it's a bigger one,

558
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: but will play not your best golf? It's something that's

559
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Speaker 1: not a major then, and it's really you know, I

560
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: almost think it's a little hypocritical of us, and I

561
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: say us collectively in the media and fans when one

562
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Speaker 1: of the top players isn't playing his best golf and

563
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Speaker 1: it's not a major championship week, and we're like, what's

564
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: wrong with so and so? Well, that same so and

565
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Speaker 1: so has said I want to play my best golf

566
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Speaker 1: four times a year. I want my game to peak,

567
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: And so we're like, well, why didn't it peak on

568
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Speaker 1: that eleventh time of the year that you wanted it

569
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Speaker 1: to peak. He can't peak every single week. All that said,

570
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Rory, I don't know how to

571
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Speaker 1: measure his mindset right now. There is no look we

572
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Speaker 1: can look at strokes gained off the tee, strokes gained

573
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Speaker 1: approach shots, strokes gained putting. We cannot look at strokes

574
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Speaker 1: gained mental state right now for Rory McElroy, and I

575
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Speaker 1: don't know how we assess this. I will defer to

576
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Speaker 1: my friend Gary Williams, who I did a radio show

577
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Speaker 1: with yesterday. He filled in for Collins and Gary was

578
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Speaker 1: at Quell Hollow all week. He followed Rory for much

579
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Speaker 1: of the week, and he was very pessimistic about Rory's

580
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: short term future, at least moving forward towards the PGA Championship.

581
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Speaker 1: I said, are you buying or selling Rory McLay going

582
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Speaker 1: into the PGA and he said he would sell based

583
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Speaker 1: on everything he saw from him last week. I don't

584
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Speaker 1: know how much of that is the scar tissue left

585
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Speaker 1: over from the miscut of the Masters. I don't know

586
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Speaker 1: how much of it is just the wear and tear

587
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Speaker 1: on him mentally from answering all the live and PGA

588
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Speaker 1: Tour questions over the past year and a half. I

589
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Speaker 1: don't know how much of it is just not being

590
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Speaker 1: able to manage his time the way he needs to

591
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Speaker 1: and some of this. And this is a great point

592
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Speaker 1: that I heard. Where was it, I guess it was

593
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Speaker 1: Shane Ryan's column that he wrote for Golf Digest where

594
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Speaker 1: he was speaking with Paul mcginlick years ago, and this

595
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: was like, remember the Players Championship was right at the

596
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Speaker 1: start of OVID nineteen.

597
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was like two days before.

598
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Speaker 1: They had canceled the Players Championship and he was speaking

599
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Speaker 1: with Paul McGinley and Paul was using as an example

600
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Speaker 1: Rory was in the interview room and he was asked

601
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Speaker 1: about something and he started delving into the coronavirus and

602
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: it's the US prepared for it, and what did it

603
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: mean through the CDC and all the stuff. He's like,

604
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Speaker 1: why is Rory talking about that? You've never heard Dustin

605
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Johnson talking about the government's preparation for an airborne disease,

606
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Speaker 1: Like play golf, worry about golf, don't worry about all

607
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: these other things. And he said, it's almost hurt Rory

608
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: mac rory, the fact that he is such an eloquinn otinionated,

609
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: thoughtful type person whose interests go way beyond golf, that

610
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: it tends to hurt his golf bait game because he's

611
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: focused on so much else that's going on in the world.

612
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Thoughts on the Wyndham Clark win. Obviously he's been you know,

613
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: was a highly touted college guy. Hits the ball a mile,

614
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: you know, as someone that had sprinkled a little money

615
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: on fleetwood and stuff.

616
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Speaker 3: He just started running away from the field and he

617
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Speaker 3: was I thought it was fucking awesome.

618
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Speaker 2: Over the weekend, obviously Saturday he was unreal, but even

619
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Speaker 2: Sunday and he talked about it. I didn't quite realize

620
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: the story about the mental game this year is something

621
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Speaker 2: that because he's had the talent, but is something that

622
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Speaker 2: he focused on being a being more positive.

623
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Speaker 3: Holme has talked about this before.

624
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Speaker 2: Some of these guys with these elite talent can be

625
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the game of golf. It can really

626
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Speaker 2: put you in a bad mental space if you stay positive.

627
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Speaker 2: Holy moly, this guy you wrote about him in your

628
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: piece for TPC, Craig Ranch like, he's I mean, we

629
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Speaker 2: got to talk about him, you know, in the mix

630
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Speaker 2: for the Ryder Cup.

631
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Speaker 1: So a lot of different pieces here. First of all, yeah,

632
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Speaker 1: I wrote about it. If you haven't read my preview

633
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: yet this week, I started the preview off with just

634
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Speaker 1: talking about the makeup of the US Ryder Cup team.

635
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: To me, there's almost ten locks.

636
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, there's always illness, injury, prolonged slump, but

637
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 7: for the most part, the top ten or the top ten,

638
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 7: and whether by automatic qualification or by wild card selection,

639
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 7: I think we can pretty much put ten names on

640
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 7: that list.

641
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: The final two names on that US Ryder Cup team.

642
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one of the great stories

643
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: of the summer. This underlying subplot of I mean literally,

644
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: there are two dozen players who could stake a claim

645
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: for one of these last spots, including a couple of

646
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: live players, So you know, I think that's gonna be

647
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: really intriguing moving forward. As for Windham Clark this past weekend,

648
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Speaker 1: I thought Quail Hollo was great. I thought the course

649
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Speaker 1: was awesome. I thought the tournament was really good designated

650
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: event in a big time major championship golf course. The

651
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: only thing that went wrong was the fact that Wyndham

652
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: Clark played too well and so we had no drama

653
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: towards the end. The back nine was essentially like a

654
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: coronation for a guy winning his first career PGA Tour

655
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: event instead of hey, six guys have a chance with

656
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Speaker 1: three holes left to play, which is what we like

657
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: to see. The mental side of the game is something

658
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: that Wyndham is really really tight with. My buddy Drew Staltz,

659
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Speaker 1: a sleeve who has the show before me with Pulton

660
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Speaker 1: Nohost on series XMPGA to a Radio. Drew told me

661
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: a few months ago that, very much based on Max

662
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Homer's success, that Wyndham was starting to work with where

663
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: they call it a sports psychologist, a mental guru, whatever

664
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Speaker 1: it might be, that he was starting to work with

665
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Speaker 1: someone on that side of the game, and he talked

666
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: very openly and honestly afterwards about just having the right

667
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: mindset and being in the moment, and I think that's

668
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: helped him immensely as far as the physical technical part

669
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Speaker 1: of his game. He was a guy that I think

670
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Speaker 1: people out there who are betting on a weekly basis

671
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: and understand the betting markets and understand players' strengths and weaknesses.

672
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Speaker 1: We've looked at Wyndham Clark of the last few years,

673
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a guy who drives it really well, wants it really well,

674
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Speaker 1: everything in between that s kind depends on the week.

675
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes pretty good, sometimes not so good. This year, he's

676
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: turned himself into a better iron player than anything else,

677
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: and you're seeing the success right now. Goes to show

678
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: you that iron play rules Everything. Doesn't mean you can

679
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: drive it off the planet. Every hole, doesn't mean you

680
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: can hit it two thirty off the team. As long

681
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: as you drive it pretty well, if you're a really

682
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: good iron player, you're going to find success. That's what

683
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Speaker 1: he's done so far this year, and he is not

684
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Speaker 1: going anywhere. I did a radio hit on a local

685
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Charlotte station yesterday and they asked me about you know, well,

686
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Speaker 1: we've seen Rory win for the first time at Quail Ricky,

687
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: and I said, let's not put those sort of expectations

688
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Speaker 1: on Wyndham Clark. I don't think he's a guy that's

689
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Speaker 1: gonna start winning majors, mean number one in the world.

690
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Speaker 1: But is this a guy who could make the US

691
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Speaker 1: Ryder Cup teams, this guy who could challenge for a

692
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Speaker 1: major championship. Is this guy who could win one more

693
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Speaker 1: time before the year's up? Yes, yes, and yes to

694
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: all those things.

695
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Good childhood friends with the McCaffrey family. I know Christian

696
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: was fired up with him winning that. Uh you know,

697
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: obviously if it wasn't for him, Zander wins the tournament

698
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: pretty easily. He's a guy, you know, a lot like

699
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Speaker 2: Tony when these majors, you know, come up that just

700
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: feel like their game is just you and I last

701
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: week talked about Tony at the US Open. You know,

702
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are going to be

703
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: on him probably this next week to Xander's another guy

704
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: that you know. I just think, as long as you

705
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: can get them at twenty five ish to one odds, that,

706
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: you know, relative for the top guys, he's right there,

707
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: you know, and we can talk all we want. You know,

708
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: he just doesn't get it done. Doesn't get it done.

709
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: But when they showed his stats going into Sunday Agains Windham,

710
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, because they're actually not that far off in age,

711
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: similar amount of career starts. It's like, and this is

712
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: the hard part about golf, right, if you don't win,

713
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: it's almost like we knock yet. But when you look

714
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: at him just rattling off and the amount of money

715
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: the dude's making in his game, I mean he's clearly,

716
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Speaker 2: like you said, he's not just the top ten lock

717
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup guys like he's near one. He's closer to

718
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: one than he is ten, you know, in terms of

719
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: the crew, right right, I mean.

720
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Speaker 1: We're sitting here talking about Xander Schoffley, Hey, what went wrong?

721
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Because he finished only in second place, whereas we're not

722
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Speaker 1: talking about you know, someone else had finished in forty

723
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: first place, because there's no reason to talk about him.

724
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: And so I own you you like him?

725
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Next week, I do like him. I just started making

726
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: my list. I think he is going to be very

727
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: prominently involved in my list. I will say that. For

728
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: as much as John Rahm and Scotti Scheffler have won

729
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: already this year, and they've won some really big events,

730
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: keeping their numbers short have helped out if you want

731
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: to chase some numbers. I mean you mentioned Xander twenty

732
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: five to one. I don't know that he'll be that

733
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: high that long, but I think at twenty to one,

734
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: he's a really nice play next week. Sun jaym is

735
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm looking at. I think he's going

736
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: to play really well at okill. You go back ten

737
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: years and the guys at the top of that list,

738
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Speaker 1: Jason Duffner, Jim Feurick, Henrik Stenson, they were all ball strikers. Guys.

739
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: If you're not hitting your irons well, you're just not

740
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: going to perform that well on that golf course. And

741
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at guys the strokes gained, approach shots stats,

742
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the greens regulation, things like that or what I'm looking

743
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: at for next week, and so Xander will feature prominently,

744
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: I think in my plays next week. And look, he's

745
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: playing really well. I think that the biggest thing for him.

746
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: If I'm advising Xander somehow and you listen to me,

747
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is you don't

748
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: have to do anything differently. It's just, you know, don't

749
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: get your head down the fact that you're playing really

750
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: well and not winning golf tournaments. At some point the

751
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: tables will turn. At some point you wind up on top.

752
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, no one's gonna get TPC Craig Ranch, you know,

753
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: twisted with Augusta or Olympic Club.

754
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: But it is an event.

755
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: This week, Jordan just backed out Scheffler's playing. You got

756
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: some plays. I know you kind of like some of

757
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: the longer shots this week, and that's right up my alley.

758
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a week where we can chase numbers,

759
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: which is nice because quite frankly, over the last handful

760
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: of weeks you haven't really been able to do that.

761
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Wyndam Clark was sixty to one

762
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: last week, but it was really hard before the tournament

763
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Speaker 1: to look past some lower numbers. So even if you

764
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: had Wyndham Clark, you might have had a guy at

765
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: twelve to one, a guy at eighteen to one, a

766
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: guy at twenty two to one along there with them.

767
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: So I am bypassing a lot of the short numbers

768
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: this week. Look can Scotty Scheffler go out and win

769
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: this golf tournament by five. Sure, but what we've seen

770
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: over the last two years, ah Lee won with a

771
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: score of twenty five hundred two years ago. He won

772
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: again last year with a score of twenty six under.

773
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: Anytime we get scoring that's that low in relation to parr,

774
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: it seems like it becomes more of a level playing field.

775
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: It's more of a hey, anything can happen. Some guy

776
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: gets hot with a putter on the weekend, shoots pair

777
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: of sixty threes and he can go win. It's less

778
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: of a ball strikers kind of contest, something that would

779
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: play into the hands of a guy like Scheffler. Oh,

780
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: some of the names on my list. The shortest number

781
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I'll have is Seamus Power, who opened it forty five

782
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: to one. He's after Speek w D. He's probably about

783
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: thirty five or forty to one right now. Still a

784
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: pretty good number on a guy who has shown that

785
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: he can go low at these kind of events. He's

786
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: shown that he can win an event against an inferior

787
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: type of field like we have this week. I'll rattle

788
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: off a whole bunch of other names because I've got

789
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: him written down in front of me. Justin saw Jimmy

790
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Walker starting to play some good golf again. Scott Stallings

791
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: told me a few months ago that this is one

792
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: he added to his schedule based on looking at some

793
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: analytics and what should fit his game, and he really

794
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: likes it here. Michael Kim had him on the radio

795
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: show yesterday. He lives nearby and practices at Craig Ranch

796
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: pretty decent amount. Eric Cole's played some really good golf

797
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: as a rookie this year. So those are some of

798
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: the names. And I think that not going into a

799
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler, not getting a guy with a short number

800
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: that allows us to play a few more players at

801
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: longer odds. John, so I think he can chase some

802
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: of those numbers.

803
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: Michael Kim's kind of an interesting name. I mean, he

804
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: clearly is playing really well right now. You know, Harold

805
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: did college player play with Max at cal I mean

806
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: was elite, right, I mean Heisman Trophy at golf. I

807
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: mean he's won on the PGA Tour before. He's a

808
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: guy that you know for longer ods, even if you

809
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: don't want to pick to win top tens, top fives,

810
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: you know in some of these, especially some of these

811
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: events when some.

812
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: Of the top guys aren't playing. He's a guy with

813
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: some pedigree.

814
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: Really interesting stuff from him on the show yesterday. So

815
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: if you don't know the story, five years ago, this

816
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: summer he won the John Deere Classic kind of out

817
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and he told me yesterday, said, I kind

818
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: of won it too soon. I like, I wasn't really

819
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: ready to win a PGA Tour event yet got into

820
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: the Open Championship the next week, finished in thirty fifth place.

821
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: That was fine. Didn't have a top sixty at his

822
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: last nine starts of that year. Okay, a little you know,

823
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of come down after a win, and that's happened,

824
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: and you know, figure, you go get him next year.

825
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: The next year, he did not make the cut in

826
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: an event with a cut. The entire year that was

827
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, he didn't make a single cut.

828
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: He didn't make a dollar in twenty twenty. On the

829
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: golf course, twenty twenty one, comes out and starts to

830
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: slowly play some better golf, but not enough that we're

831
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: really paying attention. Last year a little bit better all

832
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now he's working with Sean Foley. He's

833
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: figured some things out. Two top tens in his last

834
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: six starts, hasn't missed a cut during that span, Like

835
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: you said, playing some really good golf. Finally had some confidence.

836
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: He said. He worked on the game technically, he's worked

837
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: on the game from a mental standpoint, emotionally, physiology, psychology,

838
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: the physiology of golf, everything that he's gone through. I

839
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: mean he's reading books on how to succeed and how

840
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: to have the right mindset. So working really well for him.

841
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a guy that, yeah, I'll have a

842
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: little sprinkling out right, but I think for me he's

843
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: more of a top ten play again.

844
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to me, there are two routes on

845
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour.

846
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: There are the Scotti's, the Sam Burns, the Speach the

847
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: justice to just hit the ground running, and then there

848
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: are a lot of Max Homas, Wyndham Clark's. You know

849
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: this guy, you know, I mean, this guy's won before.

850
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: It took wind him a little while, but you know

851
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: what I mean, that just it's fucking hard. But then

852
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: they figure it out and you're like, holy hell. This

853
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: guy then goes on to have a longer career, playing

854
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: at a high level, making a lot of cash.

855
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: The Windhom Clark trajectory is the that's the trajectory, that's

856
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: the usual, that's the normal trajectory, so to speak.

857
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler's not normal.

858
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Scott took a year or two to

859
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: win his first event. Jordan Speed role in Marekowa. Those

860
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Speaker 1: guys are not normal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you get out to the PGA Tour and you

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Speaker 1: start winning golf tournaments and that almost does something to

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Speaker 1: you later in your career. You almost need that adversity

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Speaker 1: at first kind of learning how to win, you start

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Speaker 1: winning right away. Think about Jordan Speet's mindset right now.

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Speaker 1: He was winning so much as a young player in

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Speaker 1: his early twenties that now when he's not winning on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis, he's like, well, I'm chasing the old

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Speaker 1: version of myself. As opposed to someone like Wyndham Clark,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't know any better, someone like Max Homa who

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Speaker 1: started winning a little bit later in his career. I

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Speaker 1: think first of all, they appreciate it more, and secondly,

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Speaker 1: they're not trying to chase who they were five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven years ago because they weren't anything back then and

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Speaker 1: so they're they're building up to the success. And I

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of times, at least in the

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Speaker 1: prognostication game where we're trying to figure out who's gonna

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Speaker 1: play well, looking at the guys who have built up

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Speaker 1: a resume and have gotten to that point and then

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Speaker 1: started winning. As both of those who have won early

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Speaker 1: and are trying to replicate that success, there's something to

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Speaker 1: be said for playing the former over the ladder sometimes.

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Speaker 2: For sure, in the reality with golf, it's gonna get

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Speaker 2: you at some point or the other, right, Ricky Jordan

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Speaker 2: took longer for some of these guys. That happened right

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Speaker 2: off the bat, But you're gonna go through a stretch

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Speaker 2: where you're gonna contemplate it. I quit the game of

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Speaker 2: golf because it's it's hard, you know, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: just it's a It's a unique sport that way, where

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Speaker 2: you know, in basketball, once Steph Curry or Lebron or

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, you're just great right until it's over. You know,

893
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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys just hit a roll and

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Speaker 2: you never know what it's coming.

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Speaker 1: It happened to I mean, if you're a professional golfer.

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Speaker 1: All you have to hear is Siger Woods went through

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Speaker 1: multiple roles in his career, the greatest player, the chipping yips,

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Speaker 1: you could put them all the great from ten yards away.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is to see that. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: either got to be very encouraging as a young professional golfer.

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Speaker 1: You're like, ah, Tiger went through it. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to be perfect all the time. That's something that Holma's

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot, Like, just because I don't shoot

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Speaker 1: a good round, shoot a good score, doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 1: a bad golfer. Doesn't mean I'm a bad person. It

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Speaker 1: just means I didn't shoot a good score that day.

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Speaker 1: But it's either encouraging or it makes the game seem

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Speaker 1: utterly impossible. If you're like, well, shit, if Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: couldn't hit a ball in the green from ten yards away,

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Speaker 1: how the hell am I supposed to do it? He's

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Speaker 1: the craatest of all time. I'm going out here trying

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Speaker 1: to make a cut on the PGA Tour and like,

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Speaker 1: this thing's really really hard. So yeah, it's tough game.

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Speaker 2: If she really wants to make it, sting, her final

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Speaker 2: text to him should be I hope you get the

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Speaker 2: chipping yips again, God speaking God.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my God, Okay, So well, I'm kidding. Don't say

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Speaker 3: that to a tiger.

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Speaker 2: I have a good one. Talk to you next week,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. From the PGA Majors, major seasons off and running.

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Speaker 2: Now we got a couple of majors and basically a

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Speaker 2: thirty days span, so let's lock and load.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wait hoo, he sees it up in Rochester. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that. And I think you have given girlfriends

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Speaker 1: and ex wives everywhere something to say is as they're

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Speaker 1: walking out the door, hope you get the chipping yips.

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Speaker 3: Bye, see you man.

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Speaker 1: Wait