WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Let Sleeping Corpses Lie

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Joe McCormick. And Hey, today we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be playing an episode that originally aired on February tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. This was our Weird House Cinema on

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<v Speaker 2>Let Sleeping corpses Lie aka what was the other name?

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<v Speaker 2>The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, it's a sci fi spin on the

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<v Speaker 1>zombie genre set in rural England. But it's also a

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish Italian co production. It's really really fun. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, recently traveling in the UK and occasionally I

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<v Speaker 1>would see an old church and I was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>a few of these look kind of like that church

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<v Speaker 1>from Let Sleeping corpses Lie.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds wonderful. Yeah, I remember this movie being just

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<v Speaker 2>filled with beautiful locations and acerbic jerks.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, without further Ado bright In.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's movie goes by many names. It stems from the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteen seventies, and you could easily sort of single

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<v Speaker 1>it out for a few different things. On one level,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very British. It is the perhaps the most important

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<v Speaker 1>British zombie film, certainly of this time period. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>a Spanish Italian co production and has I think no

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<v Speaker 1>actual British people in it. It's also not only a

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<v Speaker 1>horror film, but an eco horror film all true. This

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<v Speaker 1>is also definitely a grindhouse era picture. It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>shown in a double feature with Wes Craven's notorious Last

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<v Speaker 1>House on the Left, which I really a seventy two film,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess it was still making the round by

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four or just hitting certain markets by seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, these two films were sometimes on

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<v Speaker 1>the same billing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to realize where different zombie movies come in

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<v Speaker 2>the course of history, because I think of most zombie

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<v Speaker 2>films as derivative not just of Night of the Living Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>but of Dawn of the Dead, the second film in

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<v Speaker 2>George Romero's trilogy. But of course Dawn of the Dead

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<v Speaker 2>actually didn't come out I think until nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so like four years after this one. Of course Night

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<v Speaker 2>was earlier, but it's kind of strange how I would

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<v Speaker 2>have said this movie was derivative of Dawn, but in

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<v Speaker 2>fact it precedes Dawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. It's kind of a I think even

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, a lot of people compared it to

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<v Speaker 1>Night of the Living Dead, and certainly it owes something

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<v Speaker 1>to that film, as pretty much any zombie film that

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<v Speaker 1>came after it does. But yeah, maybe it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little head of the curve on some things as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we keep talking about it. We haven't said the

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<v Speaker 1>title of the film yet because you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>your pick of titles for this film. The again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian Spanish co production, and the original title in

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<v Speaker 1>both languages translates basically to do not profane the Sleep

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<v Speaker 1>of the Debt, which I guess the international distributors didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go for. They saw opportunities to tap into other areas

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<v Speaker 1>of fear. It was released under a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>names around the world. The two most common are either

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<v Speaker 1>let Sleeping corpses Lie, which is how we haven't listed

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<v Speaker 1>in the title for this episode. But it was also

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<v Speaker 1>widely distributed as The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue, where

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<v Speaker 1>it eventually was widely distributed under that name.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the title that displayed in the version of

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<v Speaker 2>it that I watched, though the screen where that title

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<v Speaker 2>pops up looks very out of place. It like doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>match the the visual style of anything around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also it's a strange title. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these titles are hard to really rationalize because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them don't really make sense once you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the plot. There is not a Manchester more in the

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<v Speaker 1>film as an actual setting. We only briefly see Manchester

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<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning of the film, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>go out into rural Britain, and that is where the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the film is supposed to be taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the city at the beginning definitely supposed to be Manchester.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be Manchester

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<v Speaker 2>or London.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Manchester, that is what I've read. Yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Other titles that this film had there was do Not

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<v Speaker 1>Speak Ill of the Dead, which which sounds pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's more or less a translation of the original,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it kind of implies that that what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here is like the raising of the dead via

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<v Speaker 1>slander or something. It shouldn't come as anybody to any

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<v Speaker 1>surprise to anyone out there that it was also known

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<v Speaker 1>as Zombie three, at least in some markets. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is hilarious because a number of films seem to have

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<v Speaker 1>been released at one time or another as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the very unofficial Italian zombie franchise, including nineteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>Zombie three, which was a Fulci and a Matte film.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything can or could be a zombie movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, now I'm incredibly confused here, because so Zombie three

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<v Speaker 2>would mean this is trying to be a sequel to

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<v Speaker 2>Zombie two, which was the full chief film that was

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<v Speaker 2>not actually a sequel to the original Zombie, which was

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<v Speaker 2>another name for Romero's Dawn of the Dead, which came

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<v Speaker 2>out in seventy eight. But this movie we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>came out in seventy four and at some point it

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<v Speaker 2>was called Zombie three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the beauty of the Zombie zo MBI franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I guess this would have to be like

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<v Speaker 2>in like I don't know, later video releases or something, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think so. Now another title that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun for this one that again doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>fit the movie is Don't Open the Window. I love

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<v Speaker 1>a good seventies Don't movie, And we're actually gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer for Don't Open the Window for that release

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<v Speaker 1>of the film here in a bit, just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most, in my opinion, the most amusing of the

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<v Speaker 1>trailers to listen to in a podcast format.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, Okay, So running through these different titles,

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<v Speaker 2>we do I think see a Manchester area hospital as

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<v Speaker 2>a set used in the movie, but it's not really

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<v Speaker 2>set in Manchester. Do Not Speak Ill of the Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I can tell, has no relationship to

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<v Speaker 2>the plot. Zombie three is hilarious because this movie came

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<v Speaker 2>out before the original Zombie and I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>anything about opening a window at all. Can you remember

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<v Speaker 2>any window stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people probably look through windows, and maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a scene where somebody grabs through a window, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not the centerpiece of the picture. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that any of the Don't movies really had that

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<v Speaker 1>going for it. But when a movie's titles say don't

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<v Speaker 1>Go in the Basement, I feel like that one really works.

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<v Speaker 1>And if oh, well, this is a movie about something

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<v Speaker 1>horrible going on in the basement where horrible things belong.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't open the window. This seems very broad, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really just not supposed to open the window again.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, there's one scene where one character, Katie, escapes a

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<v Speaker 2>zombie by jumping out a window, So if she obeyed

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<v Speaker 2>the title of that version, she would have been killed

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<v Speaker 2>by the zombie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a more fitting title would be don't use ultrasound technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, don't trust science, I think would be the

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<v Speaker 2>correct title here, and in that vein, I'd say let

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<v Speaker 2>Sleeping corpses Lie is probably the most on track of

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<v Speaker 2>all these titles because it suggests that something is being

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<v Speaker 2>done to disturb the dead, like you're kind of meddling

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<v Speaker 2>in some way that you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the elevator pitch for this one's pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>You have youths from the city clashing with authority figures

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<v Speaker 1>and the living dad in rural Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Strangely, though, the dichotomy set up in this movie is

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<v Speaker 2>not an alliance of urbanity with the youth. The youths

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<v Speaker 2>are from the city, but urbanity, I would say is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the villain, because that's in this nexus of

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<v Speaker 2>evil things that the movie were probably group together like cops, cities, science,

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<v Speaker 2>the government, and I guess anything that happens in a

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<v Speaker 2>big building.

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<v Speaker 1>And big buildings of course have windows. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and listen to the trailer for Don't Open the Window. Akaa.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's sleep in corpses live.

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<v Speaker 4>They tampered with nature and now they must pay the price.

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<v Speaker 4>See the grotesque invade an unsuspecting village. See a hospital

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<v Speaker 4>panic when they old babies go berserk. You see friends

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<v Speaker 4>turn on each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other in a nightly are of Holliday.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll cringe with terror when you see don't open the window.

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<v Speaker 4>Emm's out there, will wait and read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are see, Now you'll think twice about opening that window, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wasn't gonna do it before, but now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really convinced.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get going here, you may be wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 1>where can I find this movie under one title or another? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I streamed the movie on AMC Plus on Amazon under

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<v Speaker 1>the title The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue. Shutter has

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<v Speaker 1>it as well, and you can render by it digitally.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a blu ray release from sign App's

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<v Speaker 1>Films that features a four K restoration and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>really great. There's a lot of neat extra features on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we mentioned a little bit about the locations. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing to keep in mind with this picture is that

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<v Speaker 1>parts of it are definitely shot. There are locations and

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<v Speaker 1>exteriors that are definitely shot in Britain, and they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have done a good enough job where they use

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<v Speaker 1>just enough of it that, at least in my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like Britain most of the time, like they

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<v Speaker 1>are enough establishing shots to establish that. Occasionally though, you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, like, well, this looks a lot more like

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian horror film. The hills look more Italian and so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of scenes that were actually shot in Italy. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they did an excellent job with the scenery.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fully convinced about the English landscape. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no complaints whatsoever about the locations and scenery

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. In fact, they're pretty, they're gorgeous most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a really well shot film. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get into the folks involved in it here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll start with the director. This is Jorge Grau, who

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen thirty through twenty eighteen. Spanish director probably best

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<v Speaker 1>remembered internationally anyway. I'm not sure about in Spain for

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<v Speaker 1>this picture, but was responsible for various romances and thrillers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he only did three other horror films, a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three Countess Bathory film titled The Legend of

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<v Speaker 1>blood Castle, nineteen seventy three's Violent blood Bath, and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three's Hunting Ground. I think those two seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>films are separate films, but now that I read them

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, it makes me wonder maybe this is the

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<v Speaker 1>same film. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the Bathory Bath, Bathing and blood Thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the details in front of I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's two separate films, but they sound a lot alike

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<v Speaker 1>title wise. Now, there are four different names that are

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<v Speaker 1>attributed on the screenplay, too credited to uncredited, that you

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<v Speaker 1>find in a couple of the databases. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the credited screenwriters is Sandro Continentza, who lived nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>through nineteen ninety six. It Talian screenwriter best known for

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<v Speaker 1>such films as nineteen sixty one's Valley of the Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight's The Inglorious Bastards, not the Tarantino one later,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tarantino was a drawing on that title, nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one's Hercules in the Haunted World, and really just a

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<v Speaker 1>long list of thrillers, action movies, horror movies, comedies and more. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the other name is credited is or Solo Costia. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an Italian screenwriter dates unknown, whose filmography includes work

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<v Speaker 1>apparently uncredited work on nineteen sixties Black Sunday and such

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<v Speaker 1>films as nineteen seventy seven's YETI Giant of the twentieth Century,

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<v Speaker 1>which stars Tony Kendall and a King Kong sized YETI.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, this nineteen sixties, that's the Mario Bava

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<v Speaker 2>Black Sunday, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's a fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>horror movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I don't know to what degree the screenwriter

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<v Speaker 1>actually worked on it, but there's at least an uncredited

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<v Speaker 1>tagging on that. And then there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>other Spanish screenwriters who are uncredited. There's Miguel Rubio and

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<v Speaker 1>one Cobos. Both of those are individuals who, like Rubio,

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<v Speaker 1>did a number of Spanish romance as it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cobos did various westerns, thrillers, et cetera. Now getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the cast here, it apparently depends on where it

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<v Speaker 1>was released, who got top billing and so. But the character,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess she's one of our two main characters in

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<v Speaker 1>this and that is Edna the city girl, played by

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<v Speaker 1>Christina Galbo. She was born nineteen fifty was a Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>child actor who later worked in various films, a number

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<v Speaker 1>of horror films, but also some dramas in there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Her credits include the Western from nineteen sixty eight, Twice

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<v Speaker 1>a Judas with klaus Kinski, nineteen sixty nine is the

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<v Speaker 1>House that Screamed, nineteen seventy two is what have You

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<v Speaker 1>Done to Solange? And nineteen seventy five's The Killer Must

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<v Speaker 1>Kill Again. Oh, and then also a nineteen eighty one

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<v Speaker 1>film titled Sober Natural which just looks amazing. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>known as Return of the Poultergeist.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is the verk Beast movie that you shared

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<v Speaker 2>the cover box and the box art with me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, this is what a Dutch VHS cover that

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<v Speaker 1>I found here and I have read some reviews that say,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go into this film sober natural expectant return of

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<v Speaker 1>the Poulter, expecting to get this level of insanity, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's supposedly interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonetheless, I'm sorry it was so funny because the Dutch

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<v Speaker 2>language on the cover you shared with has this like

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<v Speaker 2>tagline that says zell hit bosa over women, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think means like will evil prevail.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I haven't seen it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how it turns out.

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<v Speaker 2>It might, but it's got the verk beast standing there,

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<v Speaker 2>like clutching some kind of glowing skull over his crotch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, or like his belly has a ghost in

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<v Speaker 1>it or something. It's it's very intriguing. Yeah. Anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>actor here, Galbo Christina goalbouh quite good in this It's,

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll discuss, it's a role that does limit her

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<v Speaker 1>to a fair amount of screaming and being afraid. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so it's essentially kind of a scream queen role.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she's really good in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would say that the acting in this

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<v Speaker 2>movie is good for what the movie calls for, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not very nuanced performances. The roles in this movie

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<v Speaker 2>are painted with a broad brush, but in that capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>the cast is by and large very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, our central we kept calling him a hippie, but

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<v Speaker 1>it might be more accurate to think of him as

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<v Speaker 1>a rocker. I don't know. There's a lot to dissect there.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a note on this later in the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, we'll get back to this. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is George. George is played by Ray Lovelocke, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty through twenty seventeen. He was an Italian actor

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<v Speaker 1>and musician. His father was English, his mother was Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still doubtful he's doing his own English language

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<v Speaker 1>dubbing in this film, because it's very I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very over the top, it seemed to me, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>On this, well, it's very loaded with the vernacular markers

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<v Speaker 2>of British English, so just a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of little you know, like I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 2>call it, a little flourishes, like referring to women as

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<v Speaker 2>birds and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure on this this might be his

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<v Speaker 1>own voice. I think everyone is dubbed in this film.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is one of those pictures where they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have they weren't actually recording the sound locally, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody's coming back in to dub it. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if he's doing his own dubbing or not here.

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<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, even if it's just a physical performance,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still pretty good in this. It's so. As a musician,

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<v Speaker 1>he put out a number of singles in Italy and

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<v Speaker 1>Japan in the late sixties and then early to mid seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>and as an actor, his credits include sixty seven's Django

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<v Speaker 1>Kill if You Live Shoot, also Norman Jewison's nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>one adaptation of Fiddler on the Roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh who does he play in that? Fiddler?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I have to look it up again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me look it up. Hold on Oh, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He plays Fiedka, who is a Christian farmer who is

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<v Speaker 2>the husband married by the third daughter Hava.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's been a I think I saw Fiddler on

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<v Speaker 1>the Roof, this version of it with Topaul in it

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a child, but all I remember is

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the singing.

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<v Speaker 2>I always loved Fiddler on the Roof. I think his

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<v Speaker 2>role in this is sad because when have falls in

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<v Speaker 2>love with Fiedka and they want to get married, that

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<v Speaker 2>this is what Tevia finally like, won't accept and he says, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I will not accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a scene in Fiddler on the Roof where

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<v Speaker 1>someone plays a fiddle on the roof?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, okay, it's at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought, I mean, I had that image of

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, but I was suddenly second guessing myself, Like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I since I saw it as a kid and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the title, I would just create the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of toppaal singing on the roof. I need to see

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<v Speaker 1>it again clearly anyway. There are other pictures that Lovelock

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<v Speaker 1>was in, including the nineteen seventy four Romberto Lindsay police

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<v Speaker 1>thriller Almost Human and the nineteen seventy five Jallo film Autopsy. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and also in Luccio Fulci's nineteen eighty four musical Murder Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the gory horror musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I actually have a blu ray of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't watched it yet. So at some point

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<v Speaker 1>I'll check that out and see if it's if it

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<v Speaker 1>is something for Weird House, or if it's something just

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<v Speaker 1>for me. We'll see, okay, all right. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>an authority figure in this picture, and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>inspector who is not a rural police inspector like he

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have come in from the city himself because

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<v Speaker 1>he's staying at the hotel. He doesn't have a local residence.

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<v Speaker 1>But this character is played by Arthur Kennedy, not a

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<v Speaker 1>brit not an Italian or a Spanish actor. An American

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<v Speaker 1>actor of stage and screen who won a nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Tony Award for his role in the original production

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<v Speaker 1>of Arthur Miller's Death of a Salesman and was a

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<v Speaker 1>five time Oscar nominee. He worked in a number of

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Miller's Broadway plays as well, and he was in

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<v Speaker 1>such major films of the forties, fifties, and sixties as

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence of Arabia, Write Victory, Peyton Place, and Champion. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked a lot in Europe later in his career. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the second Arthur Kennedy movie that we've discussed on Weirdhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was in The Humanoid from nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an Italian star Wars ripoff, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that had what's his name in it, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Keel or Kyle Keel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays the titular humanoid,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, I forgot Arthur Kennedy was in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. In this he's just a snarling fascist police inspector

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<v Speaker 1>who has absolutely had it up to here with the hippies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's difficult to figure out his accent in this.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I must I'm guessing, like, since the film is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to take place near the Scottish border in what Cumbria,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, well, maybe he's going for a Scottish

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<v Speaker 1>accent here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, to the extent that he is tempting an accent,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going for Irish, not Scottish. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>but why why No, It's almost as bad as Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Costner and Robin Hood. He just alternating freely between attempting

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<v Speaker 2>an accent and not at all. And in the cases

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<v Speaker 2>where he does actually alter his accent, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying for Irish, but there are plenty of scenes

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<v Speaker 2>where it's just nothing, not even trying. He has a

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<v Speaker 2>gravelly American voice. I guess it's just his natural voice,

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<v Speaker 2>and he sounds kind of like you imagine the voice

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<v Speaker 2>of William Holden, you know, a kind of rough, gravelly

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<v Speaker 2>core American accent, and I'd say this is what we

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<v Speaker 2>hear at least half the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now trying to figure out the accent itself. Aside,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is a very convincing screen presence in

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<v Speaker 1>the film. Like you. Again, maybe not the most nuanced

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<v Speaker 1>character of all time here, but just as a just

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<v Speaker 1>as an absolute authority figure villain to menace our our

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<v Speaker 1>freethinking youths or supposedly freethinking youths, I think he's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just bristling and snarling every time he's on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Screen, basically every scene, he's just decrying the decadence and

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<v Speaker 2>filth of the young and saying, why don't we just

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<v Speaker 2>lock them all up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Why can't I abuse my power more? If only

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<v Speaker 1>I could abuse my power like a few degrees more

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<v Speaker 1>than we wouldn't have any problems at all. Yeah. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see some other actors in this of note, Janine Mestri

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<v Speaker 1>plays Katie. Katie West this is the sister of the

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<v Speaker 1>character played by Christina Galbo. So this is Edna's sister Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a major, an important character that kind of brings

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<v Speaker 1>everyone together here. But the actor here was born in

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven, Spanish actor whose work seems to lean more

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<v Speaker 1>historical and more into dramas. But she had a small

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<v Speaker 1>role as a vampire woman in Jess Franco's nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>Dracula movie that had Christopher Lee, Klaskinsky and Herbert Lohm

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Quite a cask, I mean you can guess

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<v Speaker 1>who klows Kinsky played, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Wade, are you saying not Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Dragton No, Christopher Lee's Dracula?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, klaus Kinsey Renfield? Yes, yes, okay, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? And then playing Katie's husband Martin West, who

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<v Speaker 1>have Jose Lafonte, Spanish actor with two hundred and four

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<v Speaker 1>almost in two thousand and four, two hundred and four

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<v Speaker 1>varied credits, including nineteen eighty seven's Beaks the movie. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>is that when you've seen what?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't remember us talking about Beaks in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remind me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it came up on this show maybe because

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<v Speaker 2>a listener UH asked us what were the worst films

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen? And I don't know exactly how to

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<v Speaker 2>answer that. You know, it's hard to put old movies

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<v Speaker 2>on the same scale. You can't consider them all with

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<v Speaker 2>the same criteria. But I think one of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>times I ever had trying to finish watching a movie

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<v Speaker 2>was Beaks, which is a rip off of The Birds,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like excruciating. It had these high pitched,

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<v Speaker 2>droning synthesizer sounds that were just like needles going into

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<v Speaker 2>your ears. And pair that with overuse of slow motion

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<v Speaker 2>and you can imagine just the nausea and the pain

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to get to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a Renee Cardona junior picture too. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now you've been twice warned to avoid Beaks. We also

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<v Speaker 1>have a character that will become important, Guthrie Wilson, who's

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<v Speaker 1>a tramp. He lives by the river in this rural

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<v Speaker 1>British setting, played by Fernando Hillbeck, who of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three through two thousand and nine. I thought Hillbeck was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in this, and maybe it's more in the way

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<v Speaker 1>he was shot, but he almost has kind of George

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<v Speaker 1>Eastman vibes going on here, very intimidating physical presence. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a Spanish actor mostly a character actor, did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work in various genres. One of his biggest

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<v Speaker 1>international credits is I believe he plays like a an

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<v Speaker 1>evil knight or something in Paul Verhoven's nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>medieval drama Flesh. I guess it's flesh and blood, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's always flesh plus blood, like it's supposed to equal.

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<v Speaker 2>Something equals negative. Fun, I guess because.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's You never really hear it discussed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, all right, don't anyway, But anyway, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great Caves, Rudger Howard, Jennifer Jason Lee, Ronald Lacy,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian James. So yeah, fun cast, I love, I love Verhoven.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen Oh yeah, yeah I would.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on my radar. Is something I want to check

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<v Speaker 1>out at some point, like as the Paul Verhoven movies

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<v Speaker 1>that that I'm familiar most people are familiar, like It's

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<v Speaker 1>It's It's it's gonna be the RoboCop, It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be total recall, it's gonna be like that caliber of film,

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<v Speaker 1>which which is great. I mean, those are are perfect

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<v Speaker 1>films in their own way, But I am curious at times,

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<v Speaker 1>like what what are the predecessors to that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what sort of brought him to the international scene. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just haven't seen any of those, all right, we

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<v Speaker 1>also have This is a minor character, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mention him because he's kind of I kept

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>thinking of him as the discount Peter Cushing in this.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps a lot of this has to do is just

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the shape of his skull and the way he's presented.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>But vincente Vega plays doctor Dufffield. Dates unknown on the

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>two databases I was looking at, but he's been inactive

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen seventy nine, so I suspect he maybe did.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, the actor himself seems to have fairly had

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>had a fairly diverse career, and I acted in various dramas,

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>even some Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see why you would say Cushing because they

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>bring him in to be the kind of thin angular, clinical,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>semi good guy.

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of has a grim demeanor.

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's almost a good guy in the movie, but

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>he can't fully be that way because he's too closely

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<v Speaker 2>aligned with science. This is a major problem.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this film seems to have some definite opinions about

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>science and its overreach.

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll get to that in the plot section.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. It's worth noting that there are multiple individuals

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that are credited with the makeup and the special effects,

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 1>but Gianetto de Rosi is credited as makeup artist and

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>special optical effects here. He lived nineteen forty one through

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, and de Rosi was a big name

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<v Speaker 1>in both Italian and American films, with a noted specialty

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>in prosthetic appliances for gory movies. So, I mean, this

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is a zombie movie, so you know what that means,

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>scenes in which people have parts of their anatomy ripped

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>open or ripped off and eaten by bloodthirsty creatures.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not really a gore hound, you know, That's

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>not what I usually come to a movie for. But

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the stuff in this movie is good. That there are

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 2>scenes of zombies like pulling people's guts out and chound

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 2>down on them and stuff, and it's quite convincing.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean everyone's tolerance level for this is

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>going to vary. For my taste level, I felt like

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>they gave us just enough for it to be shocking

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>within the context of the film without feeling like the

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>camera is really lingering too long, either on the effects

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>or on the like the intended blood and gore itself. Anyway,

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 1>de Rosi's credits are are pretty robust. I mean, they're

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>all over the place, and I'm not even going I

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't list all of them here, and I'm not gonna

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>read all the ones I listed. But he worked on

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 1>The Humanoid, which we already referenced. He worked on nineteen

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>eighties Cannibal Apocalypse, which we've covered on the show. He

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>worked on a film I've never seen, but this title

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>never fails to make me snicker is nineteen eighties Doctor

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Butcher MD, which I don't know. I just I'm always

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>intrigued that there's Doctor Butcher empty.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, as well, I like that it's opposed to

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Butcher, like Masters of Education or something.

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah. He has also worked on Full Cheese,

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>The Beyond House by the Cemetery, which we've also talked about,

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Piranha two in eighty one, Conan the Destroyer in eighty four.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>He did the you remember Andre the Giant is in

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that as this like big like statue monster creature. Hmm, okay,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>well he was responsible for the monster effects there. He

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>worked on nineteen eighty four's Dune. He was one of

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the people who brought the Guild Navigator to life.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, even though the Guild Navigator doesn't really show

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>up in the first Dune novel, but they had to

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 2>get him in the Lynch movie.

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like, we gotta get get him in there,

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and let's cart him in and it's a great scene.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, say what you will about that adaptation of Doune.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>It's visually enthralling. Anyway. He has some other lists that

0:28:55.160 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>go on up into into subsequent periods of motion picture here,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>including two thousand and three's High Tension aka Switchblade Romance,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>which was a film I enjoyed when it came out.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't gone back and watched it again. It's not

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a film that really bears a lot of revisiting, but

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the first viewing is pretty fun and it does have

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:19.719
<v Speaker 1>some gross gore in it.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm just looking at the credits you listed from

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the nineties where he did Dragon Heart, which is that

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Sean Connery cgi Dragon movie. Yeah, man, And then he

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>did the he did the Conan ripoff that had Kevin

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Sorbo from TV's Hercules in it.

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Cole the Conqueror. Yeah, also nineteen ninety eight's The

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Man in the Iron Mask in there. So, like I say,

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he worked on a wide variety of pictures from low

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>budget grindhouse affair to maybe even worse stuff than that,

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>but then also some big pictures as well. And so

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:58.959
<v Speaker 1>any of these films, you know, if you check them out,

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>well at least they're going to have maybe an interesting

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>gut rip sequence in them or something a neat monster effect,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. Finally, the music on this one,

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I was really enthralled by. This film has really nice

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>sound design and really nice music. And the credit musician

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>here is Guliano SORGINI dates. I couldn't find the dates

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>for him. I think he's still around though, Italian composer

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and keyboardist whose work in this film is really good.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, it's very creepy and unsettling, definitely electronic.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>This was his first score, and I don't know, it's

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of all downhill from here in terms of the

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>film quality. The quality of the films he was attached to.

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to list all of these because

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>some of these are really skeazy. But he followed this

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>up with the scores for a number of Spanish exploitation

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>films of the nineteen seventies. Some real trash in there,

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>some of it just notoriously so. But the score for

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<v Speaker 1>Sleeping Corpses Lie has been released on various formats a

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>number of times, and his non film work is also

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>available on streaming sites. Over the weekend, I was listening

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to streaming a record titled Occulto and it is supposed

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to be I believe ten unreleased tracks from his archives,

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so stuff that he was putting together and composing in

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies for film that just wasn't used. And

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really good stuff. If you like like nineteen seventies cinemas,

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>synth and the kind of stuff that would show up

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>on a Spanish or an Italian horror picture, then this

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is right up your alley.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I've been meaning to listen to it. I haven't gotten

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>to it yet, but I believe you.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I just have to say this. If you do

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to it, Joe, make sure the windows are shut, Okay,

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>don't open the window. Well, should we let Sleeping Corpses

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>lie here and just call it an episode? Or should

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>we get into the plot of this, and I think

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>we should disturb the corpses. Yes, okay, so let's see.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>The movie opens strangely quiet. We come up cold, no

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>credits yet, in an art shop full of pieces, both

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>old and new, and we've got this handsome, bearded, blonde,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>slightly Robert redfordish looking guy who's closing up. I don't know,

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe somewhere between Redford kind of a bearded young Mark Hamill.

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Then again, the hair beard combination also kept making me

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>think of Kurt Russell, though he doesn't really look like

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>him at all in the face. But this is George,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this is Ray Lovelocke, and he will be I guess,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>one of our two protagonists. So we see him getting

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>ready to.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave the store. I guess he's the shopkeeper. And you know,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>we're panting around seeing all this stuff. The store has

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>everything from antique fertility statues to cubist paintings of fish.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And I just noticed when looking back, it goes by

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>very fast. But Rob, did you notice there is a

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>telephone on the desk and then a clay statue of

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a telephone sitting right across from it. Look at this.

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did not notice this during my viewing of

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the film. But yeah, there's no denying it. What is

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>that for, I don't know. It's one gets the impression

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that these are pieces of art from cultures around the world.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So maybe this is just a mimicry of a telephone

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>from some culture.

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>The traditional art of Manchester.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the first telephone. I don't know. Oh, maybe

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so many telephones.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So George gets what it gets this ancient looking

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>fertility statue, and he stashes it in his bag as

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 2>he's heading out the door. He leaves a sign up

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that says closed for the holidays. And then I thought

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>this was funny. We get like an extreme close up

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>of the guts of this guy's motorcycle as he is

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>driving away. You know, the camera's right up in the

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>gears and stuff.

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you get the impression that he was just

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a shopkeeper at this store or that he owned the store?

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And in either case, does he have a right to

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>shove this stuff in a bag and take off for

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the country.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>This is a good question. I could not tell that

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>it was ever answered in the film. Whether he's taking

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the statue because it belongs to him and he plans

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>to sell it and that's fine, or if he's stealing it, yeah,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>His stories about why he's going into the countryside are

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>also hard for me to figure out, because at one

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>point I'm kind of like, yeah, yeah, they change. He's saying, Oh,

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm meeting some people to fix up a house. Yeah,

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>we never hear anything else about that. And then it's

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>also said that he's taking these things to sell them

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the countryside. Yeah, and I'm not sure about

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>that either. This has never resolved. Yeah, so in retrospect,

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little suspicious of George.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>After he leaves the shop, we get a slow zoom

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 2>shot through the space where we see more pieces from

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>the collection while these ominous droning sounds and these little

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>like hollow hoots and crackles play on the soundtrack, And

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you see a Caesar head and the Holy Grail, and

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.240
<v Speaker 2>then a painting that looks a lot like the post

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 2>for Apocalypse. Now did you notice that?

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know that you pointed out.

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 2>But right from the beginning. One thing I love about

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>this movie is the spooky sound design. It's not just

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 2>the music. There's a lot of just kind of I

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know, ambient atmospheric sound effects, kind of droning and worrying,

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>as if from distant machines or things coming from underground,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and these kind of drips and echoing sounds that create

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>an ominous feeling. And it's very good stuff.

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you get that feeling of dread even before

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>anything starts dripping blood.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>But then suddenly there's green rings a zooming in through

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the screen and we see red eyes on pale faces,

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and then a title card that looks straight out of

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 2>a PowerPoint presentation. It says the Living Dead at the

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Manchester Morgue. And I'm gonna say this title just does

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>not look like it fits the rest of the movie.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 2>It feels kind of inserted hastily.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if we had more time, it would be interested

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to look at additional title cards for this picture and

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>see which ones felt the most authentic. But the other

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>this one feels very spliced in anyway.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 2>We follow the shopkeeper on his motorcycle and he's buzzing

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>down the city streets in busy traffic. We see roundabouts,

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>double decker buses. I was trying to pause it and

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>see what the signs on the buses said. One said,

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>next stop magnet Building Society, and I tried to look

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>that up and didn't find much. I think that might

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>be like a name for an old construction firm. But anyway,

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering, is this supposed to be Manchester? Because

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>there are later comments that make me wonder if it's

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be London, because somebody's saying, oh, the way

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you're dressed, you must have come up from London.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I noticed that as well. I think this they

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>did shoot these scenes in Manchester, so that leans one

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>to interpret it as Manchester. But who knows. Again, this

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>was not a British film but an Italian Spanish co production,

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>so even if it creates a convincing vision of life

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and unlife and Britain, and still like from the outside looking.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 2>So, George is driving around on the motorcycle, but then

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>we see some bits of green English countryside, but then

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>that intercuts back with smokestacks, heavy industry. We see a

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>man in a trench code weaving his way through the

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>rush hour crowd, wearing a surgical mask, and they're actually

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>a number of images of people wearing masks or scarves

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>over their faces. I wondered if this is supposed to

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>be about like air pollution, because there are a lot

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>of images coming really fast in this sequence, and a

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of them seem to me to be highlighting some

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of pollution or chemical themes. We see vapor coming

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 2>out of pipes, steam rising from the sewer, nuclear cooling towers.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>We see paper waste and just litter blowing through a graveyard.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>We see dead rats and the gutters, and then there's

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 2>one we just see a guy taking pills.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Did really shoehorn in it all in there? Like look

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>at the modern world? Manchester is a city of just

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>at salute urban decay, right, I mean it's just like

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>lots of just like black metal things around, like industrial

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>buildings where everything is just so grimy.

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so pollution. A guy's sticking pills. And then there's

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 2>a streaker. I kept expecting to find out what this

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>meant later, but it never revisited in the movie. There

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 2>is just randomly a streaker running through a crosswalk while

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 2>cars and buses wait at the light.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, on one level, we can definitely interpret

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>this as just peer seventies titillation and a way to

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>make sure that people kept watching the movie at this

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>time period. In this time period, but within the context

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of the film, I think maybe it's supposed to let

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>us know that urban England is also a place of

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of gleeful liberation, that yeah, it's polluted and gross

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>people are wearing masks, but also, hey, here's a naked

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>lady running across the street.

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I guess so I did not know what to

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>make of that. So George makes it out of the

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>He's riding his motorcycle through the countryside, and I guess

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>here maybe is a good place to come back to

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>this flag we raised earlier about what George is supposed

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>to be, Like, what subculture or cultural stereotype are we

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>supposed to understand George's belonging to, Because, as we will

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>find out later, the movie is establishing a clear divide,

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>with George on the one side of it and the

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Man on the other side, and George is supposed to

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 2>stand in for a counterculture youth rebellion in some way.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>The police inspector character, who is our main representative of

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the man, obviously hates hippies in particular, which would seem

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 2>to indicate that that's what George is supposed to be

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 2>because they clash. But then again, this is nineteen seventy four,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 2>so it's a little late for your classic movement hippie,

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>and George doesn't exactly read to me as hippie anyway.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>He has long hair, yes, but he doesn't display other

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>hippie v visual cues or clothing, nor any traces of

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>like a make love not war kind of personality. Instead,

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 2>he is just a he's more just kind of like

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a middle finger to the world kind of guy. He

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>is a disagreeable, acerbic, sexist, leather clad motorcycle driving jerk.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So what's your take on this? Do you think he's

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 2>supposed to Is it just kind of like, is this

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 2>what the people who used to be hippies are thought

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 2>to have sort of turned into by nineteen seventy four?

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So yeah, So on one level, obviously, when we

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 1>think of British biker gangs and motorcycles, we instantly think

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 1>of Psychomania, Yeah, which would have just been seventy three,

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>so basically the same time period. He does not feel

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like he would this character would fit in with the

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Living Dead motorcycle gang of Psychomania, though.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't think so. I kind of feel like

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe he could be in Psychomania I don't know.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think he can get it. He

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't care enough. I don't think this guy cares about

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>anything as much as the crew in Psychomania cares about

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>killing themselves and living forever.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right, the Psychomania, you gotta be really dedicated to

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 2>mayhem and destruction. And George isn't like that. He more

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 2>just like hates authority and hates institutions and just doesn't

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>want to be hassled.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I was looking poking around a little

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>on this because I was thinking, well, I guess maybe

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he is technically this sort of British biker stereotype of

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the day, the rocker, not a mod but a rocker.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 1>And it does seem like motorcycle culture in Britain from

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>from what I I was looking at, like you have

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of this earlier version of it where it was

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it was seen as quite quite quite this independent and

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>refined thing for you to do, like nice people ride

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 1>motorcycles around the British countryside. But then you get kind

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of this influx of the sort of the American motorcycle

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>gang culture, and then you get kind of like the

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>hippie culture also affects it, and so you kind of

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>get this rocker a version of the rocker stereotype, this

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>rocker subculture that I guess George is supposed to be

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a part of. That's my best bet. I should also

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>add that, as of now, I have not seen a

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>British biker film that doesn't have a zombie in it

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or a living dead creature of one form or another.

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So this is something that this is a question that

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>might also be answered by just broader exposure to say,

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>biking films of the nineteen seventies that are set in Britain.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, wait, I thought we determined that the undead gang

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 2>in Psychomania were not zombies but lyches or something like that.

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're more like lyitches for sure. Yeah, okay, undead

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>but not zombies.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay. But to come back from that tangent, George whatever

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>he is, hippie rocker or whatever, he comes up to

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>a stop at a full service gas station where there's

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 2>a lady parked in front, parked in front of him,

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and she's getting some petrol and he says, give us

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 2>a fill up, and he runs over to get some

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>sweet treats from the pascal stand and I was just looking.

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I love kind of pausing in old movies to look

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>at all the I don't know, the ephemeral ads and

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the windows. And there was one thing I

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>found here that was a pin that said it's hanging

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>in the windows of the gas station. It says blow

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>up a groundhog today, and I was like, what is this?

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 2>But it looks like it was a promotional pin for

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 2>a type of British tires called groundhog tires.

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are a number of fun moments in this

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>when they're poking around stores or there at gas stations

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that occasionally there'll be some some logo or cartoon character

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to catch my eye. There's a pink one that shows

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>up later. There's like a pink elephant looking creature.

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't see that one.

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>There's something like paraffin or but not paraffin.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, is this what George is going to use

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>later to light his axe on fire?

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I don't remember it actually playing

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a part in the plot. It was just me noticing

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it on a shelf and thinking it was cool. All right.

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, as George is just getting ready to leave, the

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 2>lady in front of him backs upper car crashes into

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>his motorcycle wrexit, destroys his front tire. She gets ound

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and says, I'm so sorry. I must be a little tired,

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and well his bike is all busted up and the

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 2>mechanic says it can't be fixed until Monday. So George

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>just insists that the lady give him a ride to

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 2>where he's going, which is Windermere, which is the name

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>of a lake and I guess probably the area around

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the lake in northern England.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not very easy going, like that's established pretty

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 1>early on. This guy's fussy and bossy and self centered

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's not all that agreeable.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He says, like, you'll take me where I'm going,

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the least you can do. And then he she's

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 2>just like, well, I guess, and then he says, I'll drive.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to go all the way in reverse, do we?

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So the vibes are instantly weird. Yeah, and then she goes, actually,

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 2>you'll be doing me a favor because I have driven

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>all the way from London and I'm a little tired,

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and he just says, then go to sleep, and he

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>gets in the driver's seat and they drive off, driving

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a car by the way, the approximate size and shape

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of a Galapagos tortoise.

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's tidy and there's so there's a lot a

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 2>little like character color. While they're driving along, at one point,

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the lady goes to light up a cigarette and he

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just like yoinks it out of her mouth and takes

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>it for himself, and they introduce themselves. We find out

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 2>his name is George. She introduces herself as Edna, and

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 2>he goes, you look a little like an Edna. So

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking of her as Edna for the rest

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of the film. But we learn about Edna's mission. She's

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>up from London to visit her sister who has a

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 2>cottage at Southgate, And while they're driving along, the dude

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>starts getting mad at the radio because there is a

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>report on there where scientists are talking about how ecological

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>problems are exaggerated and there's no reason to get worked

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 2>up about them, and he gets very mad at this.

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 2>He says to Dna, he's like, when we all die,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:22.720
<v Speaker 2>only the scientists will survive.

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was kind of taken aback that this movie

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>would draw this. You know, obviously it's going to draw

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a line between the rebellious youths of the day and

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the aged establishment at the police and so forth. But

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>they just go ahead and heap science in with the

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>man as well.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is not unique to this film. This

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>movie is sort of one of a type. There are

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>other horror movies of this period that have this kind

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>of I would say it's a shallow, anti intellectual view

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>of science that doesn't really understand what science is or

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 2>what it means. And unfortunately there's still plenty of this

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking in the world today. But it sort of thinks

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>of science not as a word that refers to like

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the totality of the human effort to understand the world

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>through empirical method and rigorous experimentation, but instead to refer

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to a cabal of wicked old men who want to

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>do unnatural things with chemicals and radiation.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and in a way this hearkens back to the

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>mad scientists of older films. But yeah, this was definitely

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a period we saw and we've talked about some of

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:31.479
<v Speaker 1>these ecological horror films. Sometimes it's the ecological horror going

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>on is pollution or you know, it's chemical or it's

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>certainly radiation, and then sometimes it's it's very distant, it

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a face, it doesn't have a mad scientist

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:45.919
<v Speaker 1>at the center of it. There's more of the sense

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of bureaucracy to it.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in this movie, I would say, is more like that.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Like we don't even know the person who invented the

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 2>machine in this movie that will raise the dead. We

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>only see some kind of low level functionaries bringing it

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 2>out to the field to implement it.

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when we see it, it looks nice. It

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look particularly suspect, but it is modern and shiny

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately poses a threat. Yeah.

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>But again, like I think it's funny that the radio

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 2>broadcast here in the movie is used specifically to introduce

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>us to scientists, as like the voices who tell people

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>not to worry about ecological problems or pollution and just

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 2>ignore it. The irony being that in reality, like if

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you know about ecological threats like I don't know, like

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>how did we find out about ozone depletion, or like

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the human health effects of environmental lad from gasoline and

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 2>other sources. Here it's all like paved over. Like I

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>guess if George in this movie met Claire Cameron Patterson,

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>he would like call him a twisted old geezer and

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 2>punch him in the face. But it's like, you know,

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>we are often made aware of these ecological threats, specifically

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 2>because of the work of scientists. Anyway, get off the

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>hobby horse. So back on the journey. There is a

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 2>really funny scene where they get stuck behind a City

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>of Manchester mortuary truck and they're weaving back and forth wildly.

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 2>George is driving, of course, and he performs a hideously

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 2>reckless passing maneuver, like driving off into the grass. I

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 2>guess this is to show he's like, he's cool and

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't play by the rules. And so they're going

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 2>to Windermere. George says it's because he has a house there. Again,

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 2>his story kind of keeps changing, but he says he

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>has a house in the country. He says it's away

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 2>from industry and city life and he likes to sit

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 2>there and be natural and listen to the grass grow.

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 2>But this leads to an argument because Edna needs to

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 2>go to Southgate to meet her sister to go to

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 2>her cottage. So they argue, and then eventually they decide, okay,

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>he'll take her to Southgate and here is they're going through.

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>There is absolutely marvelous scenery. I love the locations picked out.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I assume most of these are in Britain because they

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>look like Britain. I don't know if some of them

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 2>were actually Italian. But for examp, they come across this

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of craggy relic of an abbey or something on

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 2>these green cliffs overlooking a road down at the bottom

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 2>of the ravine, and I was wondering. I think some

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>parts of this movie were shot at Tintagil, which is

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>like a medieval Cornish fortress down in the southwest of England,

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and it might have been the sequence, but I'm not sure.

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there are a number of sequences here where

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like lush, green landscape surrounding them and these winding

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>isolated roads. Yea, and it's quite beautiful. But of course

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the film score, the sound effects that we hear the

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>droning begins to make a suspect that there's something else

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>going on here. There's something underneath the surface of all

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of this natural beauty.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, certainly. Now they get lost, of course, so they

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>got to ask for directions at a nearby farm, and

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 2>there's a scene where George he's going to go ask

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 2>for directions. So he leaves Edna in the car, and

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>it looks like he has to cross a stream and

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.919
<v Speaker 2>clim i'm a mountain to get to the farm where

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 2>he's going to ask for directions. It looks like it

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>is a ways. Oh, and he takes the car keys

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>with him because he's just again, he's just gonna being

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>a jerk. And Edna is left behind to smoke a

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 2>cigarette and I'm sure get into no trouble whatsoever. But

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 2>at the farm, George goes out. He's looking around the

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>place seems kind of deserted, and I love the eerie

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 2>feeling conjured here. There are chickens clucking in the distance,

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 2>but nobody in sight until a weird droning sound comes

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>in and George looks up up through the fields up

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the hill and sees a strange red vehicle with what

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 2>looks like people in white lab coats or I guess

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 2>they're in white full body jumpsuits. And so next we

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 2>jump to them. We're going to meet them and see

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. The vehicle they're working from says

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.280
<v Speaker 2>that it is the Midland Area Agricultural Department Experimental Section

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 2>these guys will be a recurring theme in the movie Rob.

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to describe what's going on with the

0:51:58.560 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>ag department scientist.

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have some a couple of gentlemen here in

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>these white jump suits, and I want to say, not

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>your space age jumpsuit. They look very you know, blue

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>collar in many respects, and the individuals act very you know,

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they're very laid back about it. They're not. They're not.

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>They're happy to talk about their work to a random

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:23.399
<v Speaker 1>dude who just walked up across the field. Uh. And yeah,

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they're They have this big red vehicle that you know,

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 1>it very much looks like some sort of a combine

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.800
<v Speaker 1>type vehicle, except you don't see any any traditional agricultural

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>tools on it, So that instantly makes you wonder, like,

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 1>what does it do It doesn't have It doesn't have

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a combine on, it doesn't have any kind of like

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a plow attached to it. And then one of the

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>dudes is walking around with some sort of scanning device.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks kind of like a metal detector

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>type thing, except with some added dude ads on it,

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>clearly monitoring something going on in the soil.

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it looks like a big sci fi weed whacker,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and so he's holding it there and George comes walking

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>up to everybody and he's like, hey, tell me how

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to get to the Madison place. But they're like, wait

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 2>a second. And the scientist is or at least I

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know if these are supposed to be scientists or

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 2>just the guys who work for the scientists. I'm not sure,

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 2>but they they're showing the farmer how to use this

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 2>metal weed whacker thing to do something to either scan

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 2>something or emit rays or something. And George goes, what

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>is that thing? And they explain, or the farmer does

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that it's supposed to destroy insects and parasites. He says

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 2>it was simply the Department of Agriculture. And then George goes, oh,

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I'd send it right back where it came from and

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>keep the insects and parasites nature's given you. And so

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>they argue about it. They say, no, hold on. Now

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 2>they make excuses for it. They're like, it works by

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>ultrasonic radiation, not a chemical involved. Love that no chemicals,

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and then they also explain that it is progress. But meanwhile,

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 2>so George is trying to get directions from the farmer

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to the place they're going, and then we see the

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 2>agg Department guys in the background like they're going, like,

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>all right, Bernard, let's give it another bash at the

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>main rotator.

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're good nature, trusting technicians of this machinery that

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they've been sent out to test.

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't think it's much of a spoiler to

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and reveal, yeah, that this is definitely the

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>science run amuck that will raise the living dead later

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>on in the picture. And I do love the localized

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>nature of the premise here, and I think the fecivity

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of it works well with the themes here. Our main

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>character will of course put one and two together in

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 1>time and realize that we know what is causing the

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>deep ecological unrest here, and we know exactly what we

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>need to do to stop it. But is the establishment

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>going to let him? Is the man going to let him?

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Or are they just going to accuse him of everything?

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because they are allied with science, and as

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 2>we know, science is evil and all it wants to

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 2>do is do unnatural experiments and cause pain and st.

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I do like, so again, you've have a very specific

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>origin for the zombie minutes that's gonna come. And I

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like that it's not the old standby of radiation. It's

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>not chemical waste. Maybe it's a little early for chemical

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.800
<v Speaker 1>waste cinema, I'm not sure. Electricity is often a frequent

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 1>pick as well, even in pictures from this time period.

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Get some electricity leeching into the ground, and watch out, earthworms,

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna come for you. But this one is this

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is a picture that involves ultrasound as being the source

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of the unrest. And I'm struggling to think of another

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>ultrasound eco horror film.

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure such a thing exists, but I can't think

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of it. But I also think it's funny that they

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 2>can't just call it ultrasound, because I think that doesn't

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 2>sound scary enough, so they call it an ultrasonic radiation.

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh well yeah, and then you do get to invoke

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.280
<v Speaker 1>radiation in the picture as well, so yeah, yeah.

0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so you know, they're giving another bash at

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the oscillator, and then there's this ominous humming and whirring

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>as the machine spins up and again. As I mentioned earlier,

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the sound design is very nice and a lot of

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the scary scenes in this movie, there are these various

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 2>types of eerie, throbbing, hooting sounds that seem to come

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 2>from nowhere or from everywhere. Very effective. Meanwhile, back down

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 2>at the car, we're here with Edna or Edna, and

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 2>here's our first zombie attack. It kind of comes out

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. She's just standing there in the road, and

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:33.280
<v Speaker 2>then there is and so there's a nice beautiful stream

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>going by, and again I want to emphasize that the

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>location here is gorgeous, so every you know, it's this green,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 2>verdant valley with trees running along the side of the

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 2>stream and an old, you know, stone walled cemetery. And

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 2>then we see suddenly a man just sort of like

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>walking into frame in the cemetery and we get a

0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>close up of him and the pupils of his eyes

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 2>are not round, their star shaped and they're set against

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 2>red irises, and oh, he's coming for Edna. And it

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 2>is very creepy looking. I think, extremely good zombie design.

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. Yeah, the zombies in this picture

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>are not greatly decayed. This is not going to be

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a real what we might think of today as kind

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of you know, the walking dead sort of zombie that's

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that's heavily rotted, and that these contacts are nice. They

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 1>give them this nice otherworldliness to them. And also the zombies,

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they're just they're shot well, they're presented well.

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>It can be a challenge, evidently you can see this

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in some of the lesser zombie pictures out there. How

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>do you make a man stumbling around or even lunging,

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, incoherently. How do you make that frightening to

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 1>people who have all their wits about them? How do

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you make them a surprise? How do you make them

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>feel terrifying? And this picture, you know, uses a number

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of different tools to really get that across, not only

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a distance and angle the shot, but again that sound

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>design which just seems to you know, to resonate and

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>also invoke this idea of like sound waves.

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and hey, I want to be really I want

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>to be fair to the people who called this movie

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>don't open the window. There is a part here and

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>that tries to hide in the car and the zombie

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>reaches through the window at her. So okay, I stand corrected.

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 2>There there is a window and the zombie tries to

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 2>come through it, but it's a car window which is

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 2>not what you think of when you hear don't open

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the window.

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, this was gonna be the inspiration for the

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>picture they just got don't hide in the car.

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, and that escapes. She meets up with George

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and the farmer. She tries to explain what happened. She says,

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that man he's following me, he tried to attack me,

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 2>but George looks down. There's no one there. They just see,

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the peaceful little ravine, the stream going along,

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>And it seems like George doesn't believe her. He's like,

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 2>are you certain, And the farmer hears the description she

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 2>gives it says it's sounds like she's describing Guthrie, the

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>tramp who used to sleep down by the river, but

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 2>he drowned recently, so it probably wasn't him. And then

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 2>from here we go on to meet some more characters.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 2>We meet Edna's sister, Katie, the one who she's going

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 2>to visit, and Katie's husband Martin, who together live in

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 2>a rustic country cottage with a waterfall in the yard.

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>This is a nice piece of land. And Martin seems

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to be like an artist and a photographer, and we

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 2>learn that Katie has been addicted to heroin. She's been addicted,

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and Martin is trying to help her quit, but she

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>like secretly uses the drug when he's not looking.

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know where she's getting her drug out

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>here in the middle of nowhere, but we see her

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with it, so she does have some.

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's like dashing it away and trying to get

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to it in secret.

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, And like you say, Martin is a photographer, and

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>his particular art photography seems to revolve in large part

0:59:56.360 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>around taking photographs of flowers at night with stupendous artificial lighting,

1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 1>so it looks interesting in the picture unless you stop

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to wonder, like, what's going on here? Is all the

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>artificial lighting we're seeing in this shot? Is this supposed

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>to be his artificial lighting? Or is this movie lighting

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>just to make if things look cool? It was kind

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of hard to figure out what they were going for here.

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you show Bonnie the scene? Did she have thoughts?

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't show her this particular scene. I mean, so,

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy's going to a lot of trouble to shoot

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 1>these flowers, Like shouldn't he be. If he wants to

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>control the lighting so much, he should just shoot them

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>indoors in a studio. And if he's gonna shoot them outside,

1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he should make use of natural lighting. But who am

1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I to tell Martin how to follow his dreams here?

1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, so Martin is kind of strange looking. Would

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you say? He's got sort of a bird of prey

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:52.919
<v Speaker 2>face with like metal heavy eyebrows. And whenever I see

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.520
<v Speaker 2>if it's a zombie movie and they introduce a human

1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>character who is visually striking in this way, I often

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if this person was cast first of all, with

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<v Speaker 2>an eye for what he will look like once he

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<v Speaker 2>inevitably gets zombified, and then rather than being cast for

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<v Speaker 2>the part of the movie where he's a living human

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<v Speaker 2>with lines and not saying he's bad in the part

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<v Speaker 2>where he has lines. But I just look at this

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<v Speaker 2>guy and I think, Okay, they wanted him as a

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<v Speaker 2>zombie and they will get him as a zombie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Absolutely, He'll spend most of his screen time as

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<v Speaker 1>a zombie. But first you got to make him believable

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<v Speaker 1>as as a non zombified human being, which they, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess mostly do.

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<v Speaker 2>So we find out he and Katie talk and we

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<v Speaker 2>find out Katie knows her sister's coming to visit. She

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<v Speaker 2>deduces that's because Martin is going to try to send

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<v Speaker 2>her to a clinic so that she can get off drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>but she is not ready, and she has a big

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<v Speaker 2>emotional breakdown about this, and that it leads to a fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Martin just goes off to do his photography

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<v Speaker 2>by himself. Oh and then meanwhile we cut back to

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<v Speaker 2>George and Edna while they're approaching the house. They're still driving,

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<v Speaker 2>and and Edna's saying like, I'm not mad, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't imagine things, and George just goes methinks the

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<v Speaker 2>lady don't protest too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely does not believe her. I think what he

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<v Speaker 1>says like gout three must have had a twin brother,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all it was.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he hasn't even gotten to that yet. He says

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<v Speaker 2>that later once he starts a little bit believing her.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, it seems like he doesn't even believe

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<v Speaker 2>anybody actually attacked her. So, like you said, at the cottage,

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<v Speaker 2>Martin is like setting up his camera to automatically take

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of a flower next to a waterfall and with

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<v Speaker 2>all this artificial lighting and so like, what do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's just snapping shot after shots, it's gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>taking pictures as a zombie attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, how convenient?

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<v Speaker 2>So of course, Guthrie, the tramp zombie shows up. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how it beat the car, like he got

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<v Speaker 2>there before the car did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, they're shambling when they actually go over

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<v Speaker 1>the attack, because they've been just booking it the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, I guess, because you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>all the zombie action going on at locations in this

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<v Speaker 1>film that are are very isolated, like this is very

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<v Speaker 1>rural Britain, we're supposed to believe here. So yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>traveling from one location to another pretty quickly somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>But the zombie shows up. It chases Katie around. Initially

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's trying to do drugs, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>gets startled and the zombie chases her. She escapes out

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<v Speaker 2>a window manages to get away, but then the thing

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<v Speaker 2>comes upon Martin on the banks of the creek and

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<v Speaker 2>it kills him, and just then George and Edna arrive

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<v Speaker 2>to find Katie screaming, and then we cut to the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning and the police are here. They're investigating Martin's death,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the setup of the movie is complete, and

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<v Speaker 2>here we are about to meet I guess our chief

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<v Speaker 2>antagonist other than like science and the zombies created by science,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is our vicious fascist police inspector. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he has a name, does He's just the inspector.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're looking at the body and the I think

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<v Speaker 2>the medical examiner is like, I've never seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody certainly enjoyed themselves here, and the inspector says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>a sadist, huh. And then the medical examiner goes or

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<v Speaker 2>a lunatic, but he says, one thing's for sure, the

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<v Speaker 2>attacker was enormously strong, because the victims of bones have

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<v Speaker 2>been crushed, every one of them. I don't know about that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but oh and then meanwhile, so the inspector is going

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<v Speaker 2>to go interrogate all of the witnesses, so George, Katie

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<v Speaker 2>and Edna. And on the way to doing that, he

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<v Speaker 2>like pulls aside at one of the cops there and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, button up. Man, you're wearing a uniform, not

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<v Speaker 2>a pair of pajamas. So he's that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a he's a uniform code guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's He's just a real ray of sunshine, this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But the interrogation is going on, and Katie is describing

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<v Speaker 2>the zombie who attacked her, and then Edna tells the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, I was attacked by that same zombie.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously the inspector does not believe them. But then

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<v Speaker 2>Edna says, why would I invent such a thing? And

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<v Speaker 2>he says, why, it's very simple, miss to back up

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<v Speaker 2>your sister's story. And I was just thinking, okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>is this correct interrogation procedure? Are you just supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>like explain your theory of the case directly to the interviewee?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I mean, likewise, is the inspector just

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<v Speaker 1>going to sit there and just consider any wild idea

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<v Speaker 1>that a medical examiner throws out there? Or or later

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<v Speaker 1>on there'll be another scene where somebody just brings up

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<v Speaker 1>an ID and he's like, yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah lunatic, yeah yeah, broke.

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<v Speaker 2>All the bones, all of them. I love how this

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<v Speaker 2>will connect later to when somebody tells him about the

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<v Speaker 2>existence of Satanic cults.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, yeah, that's the same. Yeah, So he's just

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<v Speaker 1>he's hard. Nos, he's out to finger somebody for this crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And and he doesn't mind telling you to your face

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, I think you're I think you're a killer,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah and uh and we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you for this one. No escaping me, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>escaping the law and this one.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has several just like brilliant things in the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>One is that the inspector finds that Katie's photographer husband

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<v Speaker 2>had taken naked photos of her, and he's like, explain this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what is the relevance? And here we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the inspector's awesome theory that Katie must have done

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<v Speaker 2>the murder because, as is well known, being addicted to

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<v Speaker 2>heroin gives people superhuman strength enough to crush every bone

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<v Speaker 2>in Martin's body.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as we're dissecting it here, all of this sounds ludicrous,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is something about the way that it's presented

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<v Speaker 1>in the film, like the authority with it with which

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<v Speaker 1>he presented, and like Arthur Kennedy's character, the inspector here

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<v Speaker 1>is so sure of himself and so sure of his

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<v Speaker 1>his his role in the investigation that everything he says

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<v Speaker 1>is just considered reality, is just considered a considered a fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and the proper interpretation of the evidence before him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's exactly right. I mean, I am explaining this

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<v Speaker 2>in a matter of fact way to highlight how ludicrous

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<v Speaker 2>it is. But he delivers it with cold cruel authority.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and then George comes in by the way to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, I'm not part of this. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here. I've got a house to look after,

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<v Speaker 2>and the inspector like grabs him by the collar and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, listen, boy, you keep getting on my nerves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you another house to look after, the kind

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<v Speaker 2>with lots of bars on the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like he's he's already like physically grabbing him, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he's like, I don't think he's really they've really

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of time in the picture yet to

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<v Speaker 1>really bump up against each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not at all. And so anyway, the police tell

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<v Speaker 2>George and Edna you can't leave. You have to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in the hotel in Southgate until the investigation is finished.

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<v Speaker 2>And so while they're getting out of there, Oh, but

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<v Speaker 2>George steals the film from Martin's camera, because they think

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<v Speaker 2>if they can get it developed, it will prove Katie

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<v Speaker 2>is innocent. And George says, we better develop it ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>because cops never like to admit that they're wrong, and

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<v Speaker 2>if it shows that Katie is innocent, they'll just destroy it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they go to a place to get the film developed.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a place that is a store called Croceries

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<v Speaker 2>cro ce r I e s maybe that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a g but if there's a bar on it,

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<v Speaker 2>it is indistinguishable from a serah.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are delightful looking storefronts. You just want to

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<v Speaker 1>go in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I love it, check out the labels, freshly

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<v Speaker 2>made sandwiches. And then they go to the hotel which

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<v Speaker 2>is called the Old Owl Hotel, which has an old

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<v Speaker 2>owl in it. And I so thought this owl was

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<v Speaker 2>going to go berserk and attack somebody in the movie

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<v Speaker 2>due to the ultrasonic rays, alas never happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks impressive though, sitting there in its little perch.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they're checking in, George is again just a

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<v Speaker 2>jerk for no reason. To the hotel owner, He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spend any longer in this place

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<v Speaker 2>than I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>He hates everything. Yeah, I mean, granted he's going through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in this particular moment, but he was grumpy

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<v Speaker 1>before all this.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me get to the hospital sequence, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are several things to discuss here. One is the Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so the setup is they find out Katie has been

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<v Speaker 2>taken to the hospital and George and Edna go to

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<v Speaker 2>see her. First is the location. I love the location. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this hospital looks awesome. It's like a kind of New

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<v Speaker 2>Gothic style.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was ringing this as Barnes Hospital for the

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<v Speaker 1>exteriors anyway near Manchester.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see, there are a few things to describe here,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob can you can you explain what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>the cadaver freezer boxes here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So we're introduced to these these freezer boxes

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<v Speaker 1>that they're hauling corpses out in and they look very

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<v Speaker 1>space age. Yeah, like it's I guess it's possible that

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what what these kind of sarcophagus coolers

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<v Speaker 1>looked like at the time, but they felt a little

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<v Speaker 1>high tech. But the idea here is that, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to move dead bodies across the countryside. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to rot, so we have these special cooler

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so George is looking at one of these things

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<v Speaker 2>in the hospital and doctor Duffield comes across him. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the Peter Cushing kind of guy, and they discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what is this and he explains. He's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a ways to the Manchester Morgue, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to put him in these boxes. But doctor Duffield

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<v Speaker 2>says to George, quite a few people leave their bodies

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<v Speaker 2>to science these days. Shall I make a reservation for you?

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<v Speaker 2>And of course George is like, of course not. I

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<v Speaker 2>would not leave my body to science.

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<v Speaker 1>It applies that science is just this ghoulish endeavor and

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<v Speaker 1>all at once is just to desecrate your body for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So sinister purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me bodies so I can do something evil and

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<v Speaker 2>unnatural with them. I'll probably put chemicals on it, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>But this gives way to the aggressive baby to scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this was just out of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. It's one of these scenes where I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in the grand scheme of things, they introduce this

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<v Speaker 1>to further explain how's zombies work in this picture, but

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<v Speaker 1>it ends up just feeling like this sort of side

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<v Speaker 1>pool of just absurdity and weirdness that is, of course delightful,

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<v Speaker 1>the very kind of thing I love in a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the deal with the aggressive babies?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just suddenly and this will I'll make sense

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<v Speaker 1>later on. But all the babies that are being born

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<v Speaker 1>are born super aggressive, and they're so aggressive that like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get close to one, the baby will bite

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<v Speaker 1>you and draw blood or scratch you and draw blood.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, doesn't it happen to George, like he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little too close.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it starts because one of the nurses gets like

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<v Speaker 2>her eye poked out by a baby, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor is like, come help me, so he just enlists

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<v Speaker 2>this random guy from the hallway to come help him

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<v Speaker 2>with the baby. I guess they're trying to sedate the

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<v Speaker 2>baby because otherwise the baby is ripping people's arms off,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do. And yeah, the baby, I think, like

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<v Speaker 2>attacks George while they're they're trying to get it sedated.

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<v Speaker 2>And they they explained, yes, every baby born here from

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<v Speaker 2>the region around this farm where they're trying out the

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<v Speaker 2>agricultural device, it's just been born with hostility and aggression.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they're all born bart Harley Jarvis is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most aggressive babies I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Joe, you have a baby. How strong is a baby?

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<v Speaker 2>They're incredibly strong, but I think not quite as strong

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<v Speaker 2>as this movie depicts. So George goes on to share

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<v Speaker 2>his theory. He's like, hey, wait a minute, all these

1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:33.760
<v Speaker 2>aggressive babies that have been born, they're all from this

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<v Speaker 2>area around where they're trying out the ultrasonic radiation device.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that's making the babies aggressive. So doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Duffield is intrigued, and together George and the scientist or

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<v Speaker 2>the doctor, they go out to talk to the AGG

1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Department scientists in the field. The AGG Department guys explained

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<v Speaker 2>to doctor Duffield how it works. They say it works

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<v Speaker 2>by ultrasonic rays. That the rays are used intentionally to

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<v Speaker 2>drive insects mad and make them kill all of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has destroyed They say, it has destroyed every

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<v Speaker 2>insect for a mile radius, which, to be clear, I

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<v Speaker 2>think would not be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, imagine the ecological disorder that would erupt

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<v Speaker 1>if you just totally distorted all the insects in a

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<v Speaker 1>given area. Yeah, So in a way, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting concept to roll out in the film, but

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<v Speaker 1>also one that just seems also unrealistically reckless, like the

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<v Speaker 1>scientists involved in creating this strange weapon would have to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that this is incredibly dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they say soon they're going to get it working

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<v Speaker 2>up to a five mile radius.

1:13:45.960 --> 1:13:48.800
<v Speaker 1>They're proud. They're like, yeah, there's actually one mile that

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<v Speaker 1>was yesterday. Five miles that is what we're going for today.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't hear anything you said about making rage babies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they appeal to him. They say, to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a man of science. Surely you understand this machine

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<v Speaker 2>only affects the most primitive life forms like insects, and

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<v Speaker 2>that more evolved life forms cannot be affected. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds very scientific.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Duffield seems to acknowledge that this machine may be

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<v Speaker 2>what's causing the rage babies, but unfortunately he's like, he says, like,

1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:24.360
<v Speaker 2>it's never wise to exaggerate, you know, they would laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at us. He says that to George, so it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>like he's saying, I am I too, am one of

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<v Speaker 2>the dark envoys of science. So I cannot stop it,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to, I mean, how many rage babies could there

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<v Speaker 1>be at a given time out here on the side.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a scene in the croceries store in town

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<v Speaker 2>where they're getting their George and Edna get the pictures developed,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're like, oh, too bad. The zombie does

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<v Speaker 2>not show up on any of the pictures. And they're

1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:02.880
<v Speaker 2>asking the guy like, could could anything cause someone not

1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to appear in a picture? And he goes if they

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<v Speaker 2>were a ghost maybe, And then George says about one

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<v Speaker 2>of the pictures, good thing the police haven't seen this one.

1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:14.439
<v Speaker 2>She really looks like she's about to do him in,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess talking about Katie. And then just hilarious, the

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<v Speaker 2>inspector comes right in. He like walks into the store

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, got you now, and then he gives

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<v Speaker 2>a speech about all you damn hippies. I'd kill you

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<v Speaker 2>all if I had my way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a wonderful snarling scene from Arthur Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the you're all the same, the lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you speech that he gives gives George in particular, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh. But after he leaves, the shopkeeper shows off

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<v Speaker 2>a newspaper that has a picture of the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>drowned of Guthrie. And Edna looks at it and she

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<v Speaker 2>is like, that's him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taken by the fact that here is the

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<v Speaker 1>local newspaper and above the fold huge pic sure of

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<v Speaker 1>a dead man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very common, Yeah, just of a corpse. And she's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that was him. And George is like, well it must

1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:12.360
<v Speaker 2>have been his twin. Then he must have had a twin,

1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's what you saw. So George decides to take

1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Edna to the cemetery so he can. He says, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to cure you of your fancy hallucinations. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the plan is George is going to make Edna

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<v Speaker 2>look at Guthrie's dead body so that she will know

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<v Speaker 2>that he is actually dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Again, this is another detail of the picture of

1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:39.479
<v Speaker 1>plot detail that sounds ridiculous, but when you're watching the film, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you don't, I found myself not questioning

1:16:42.479 --> 1:16:45.120
<v Speaker 1>these plot choices. I'm like, yeah, this is the logical

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<v Speaker 1>place for them to go. Oh, of course they would

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<v Speaker 1>go and look for the body.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. And so they go. They're followed by a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer. By the way, this guy named Craig is

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<v Speaker 2>tailing them and then ooh, so this is this goes

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<v Speaker 2>into one of the big horror actions set piece is

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie, the cemetery scene, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>just fantastic, really tense, scary, good staging of a lot

1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:11.120
<v Speaker 2>of the action. I don't know how you felt, but

1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was a great centerpiece of like the

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<v Speaker 2>action horror in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Absolutely. This is one of those sequences that really

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<v Speaker 1>makes you think about zombie films in general and just

1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:25.640
<v Speaker 1>realize you don't need a whole horde of zombies to

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<v Speaker 1>have an effective nail biting sequence. You just have some

1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:33.040
<v Speaker 1>some internet interesting setting, interesting location, and then you only

1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>need like one, two, three zombies tops, which is all

1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:39.360
<v Speaker 1>they have going on here as they end up having

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with them in this this basement here that's

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<v Speaker 1>serving as it's not really mortuary, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they're preparing they're they're casketing the bodies.

1:17:50.760 --> 1:17:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, I don't. It seems like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>crypt maybe or something, or it has vaults on the walls.

1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:56.599
<v Speaker 1>It does have vaults.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, so describe that what happens in the cemetery

1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:00.559
<v Speaker 2>scene here.

1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously, Guthrie shows up. He's been booking it this

1:18:03.880 --> 1:18:09.320
<v Speaker 1>whole time. He knows where his next zombie mauling appointment

1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:12.679
<v Speaker 1>is going to take place, and so he shows up,

1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and we quickly learned that these these these create critters

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty indestructible.

1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're impervious to wounds. Guthrie attacks them in

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<v Speaker 2>like the basement of this like the caretaker's house in

1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the cemetery. They go down in the basement and they're

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<v Speaker 2>there in the crypt and Guthrie shows up and locks

1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:33.320
<v Speaker 2>them inside and so that they can't get back out

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<v Speaker 2>the way they came in, and he's he's coming at them,

1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and George is trying to like stab him with a

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<v Speaker 2>rail or something, but it doesn't occur to harm him

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And then we learn that these zombies, the

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<v Speaker 2>Ultrasonic zombies, can reanimate other corpses by smearing blood on them,

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<v Speaker 2>so they recruit freely from the RESTful dead and turn

1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:58.080
<v Speaker 2>them into the undead. And this was just a whole

1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:02.160
<v Speaker 2>great tense scene. Organ Edna finally escaped by like knocking

1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:05.559
<v Speaker 2>bricks out of a vault wall and climbing up through

1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:09.280
<v Speaker 2>an open grave, and they meet up with officer Craig

1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:12.559
<v Speaker 2>here the police officer, but then the zombies attack again.

1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:15.200
<v Speaker 2>They get chased back into the caretaker's room and have

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<v Speaker 2>to barricade the doors. Eventually, Craig the police officer is

1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:23.040
<v Speaker 2>killed while trying to escape and get help. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the last minute, like our character, seemed doomed until George

1:19:26.680 --> 1:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>defeats the zombies. He realizes he can by burning them.

1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:31.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the only thing that works.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, this whole sequence is fabulous. Craig the

1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 1>cop is so doomed from the moment you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know him because he's like, he's like, oh, Georgia.

1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:43.400
<v Speaker 1>After this, you'll realize not all cops are bad. I'm

1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:45.599
<v Speaker 1>a good guy, right, Like, Oh, this dude is getting

1:19:45.600 --> 1:19:49.920
<v Speaker 1>his guts eaten by a zombie. Yeah, no doubt about it.

1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:52.519
<v Speaker 1>So the two interesting things about the zombies that are

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<v Speaker 1>revealed in this scene. The first of all, there is

1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the ritualistic dabbing of the blood on other bodies to

1:19:58.400 --> 1:20:03.080
<v Speaker 1>raise them as like zombie almost like zombie minions that

1:20:03.360 --> 1:20:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I really liked, and ultimately raises a lot of questions

1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:09.639
<v Speaker 1>that you cannot answer regarding how zombies work in this picture.

1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:15.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's very unsettling in the moment because it's so unexpected. Also,

1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>we quickly learn that these zombies are tool users. While

1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>zombies and other pictures might just want to rip and

1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:23.439
<v Speaker 1>bite at you, they're just going to use their claw

1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and bite attack. These will actively try and hammer you

1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to pieces with a big crucifix.

1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh, and that crucifix will come back in in

1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:35.879
<v Speaker 2>a minute when the cops arrive on the scene. But anyway,

1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:40.879
<v Speaker 2>George and Edna escape and they run off in separate directions.

1:20:40.880 --> 1:20:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I think Edna is going to maybe try to find

1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Katie or something, and George runs off to destroy the

1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:50.960
<v Speaker 2>ultrasonic machine at the Lewis farm. And meanwhile you think, well,

1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, though, or all the zombies dealt with.

1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I think all the zombies we knew about have been destroyed,

1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>so maybe the nightmare is over. But no, remember Martin,

1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Remember Martin, the guy who had the weird look from earlier.

1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Looks like the rays have powered him up now, and

1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:10.599
<v Speaker 2>he attacks and he eats some cops. And then George

1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:15.639
<v Speaker 2>arrives back at the agg department guys, and he's explaining

1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:18.280
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, and they, for some reason don't believe him.

1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:21.280
<v Speaker 2>They go like, you talk about the dead walking and cannibalism,

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<v Speaker 2>it's unscientific, man. And then George says, lots of things

1:21:25.640 --> 1:21:28.880
<v Speaker 2>are unscientific and they happen just the same, and he

1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>grabs a wrench and starts smashing the oscillator on the machine.

1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no examples by the way of what all these

1:21:35.920 --> 1:21:38.120
<v Speaker 1>unscientific things that are happening all the time.

1:21:37.960 --> 1:21:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Are I want to know, like, other than the zombies,

1:21:40.400 --> 1:21:44.360
<v Speaker 2>what does he have in mind? But anyway, back in

1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:47.240
<v Speaker 2>the scene at the cemetery, the inspector has arrived and

1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:50.280
<v Speaker 2>he concludes that George is in fact the one who

1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>killed Officer Craig here and the caretaker and all the zombies.

1:21:54.520 --> 1:21:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, okay, this guy is he's got to

1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:01.080
<v Speaker 2>be destroyed. Shoot him on site. And then he's like,

1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:03.880
<v Speaker 2>why did they burn the bodies? And there's this new

1:22:04.040 --> 1:22:06.599
<v Speaker 2>creep hanging out. I don't know where this creep came from.

1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>This guy shows up this late in the movie and

1:22:10.040 --> 1:22:13.439
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, inspector, you need to learn about satanic cults.

1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:19.879
<v Speaker 2>So this weird rando shows up to introduce the idea

1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:24.080
<v Speaker 2>of satanic ritual murder into the inspector's mind. It's like

1:22:24.120 --> 1:22:25.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a match made in heaven.

1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a moment where he's like thinking about it.

1:22:28.479 --> 1:22:30.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you know, I hadn't thought about that, But

1:22:30.680 --> 1:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>then instantly he's in like, I bet that's it. Yeah,

1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I that's this guy, George. He's awful. He's clearly a

1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:41.519
<v Speaker 1>sex craze, drug using hippie rebel who hates the police.

1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's just one step beyond that to

1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:47.639
<v Speaker 1>assume that he also worshiped Satan and his carrying out

1:22:47.920 --> 1:22:52.880
<v Speaker 1>unspeakable acts for a black mass. It's also we were

1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about this little off mic. It's fitting and funny

1:22:56.200 --> 1:22:59.599
<v Speaker 1>that the inspector believes all these things of George, where

1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't Actually we never see George do drugs. We never

1:23:03.920 --> 1:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>see George have any kind of a sexual interest in anybody, like,

1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>so he's none of these things that he's accused of

1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:15.519
<v Speaker 1>throughout the picture. He just is a rebellious jerk. Yeah.

1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>No, all he really does is like he's just rude

1:23:19.120 --> 1:23:21.200
<v Speaker 2>to people. That's his main character trait.

1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>As if the film is saying, yes, the youth of today,

1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:27.799
<v Speaker 1>they do suck, but not for the reasons that guys

1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:28.599
<v Speaker 1>like this think they.

1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Saund it's just because they're they're selfish and rude, and

1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to be they want to be off

1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>doing their own thing. Yeah yeah, not because they're all

1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:42.599
<v Speaker 2>in satanic cults. But anyways, so Edna is Several other

1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:44.840
<v Speaker 2>things happen in between here. There's a whole thing where

1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Edna gets attacked by the Martin zombie, but she escapes.

1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:50.360
<v Speaker 2>She starts to kind of lose her mind. The agg

1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>department guys power up the five mile ultrasonic rays. That

1:23:54.040 --> 1:23:56.440
<v Speaker 2>can't be good because then we cut to the hospital,

1:23:56.560 --> 1:23:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the Southgate Hospital, and we see all these new freezer

1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>bodies awry, so we know there's gonna be a zombie

1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:06.920
<v Speaker 2>rampage at the hospital and there is The police catch

1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:10.360
<v Speaker 2>George and interrogate him in a hilarious scene where they're

1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:14.200
<v Speaker 2>they're telling him, you know what all the satanic murders

1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he's been doing in George he protests, he says, I've

1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:21.000
<v Speaker 2>never been to a black mass in my life. Oh,

1:24:21.040 --> 1:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>because they find the statue, like the antique statue that

1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>he had in his luggage that he was bringing up here,

1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and they pull it out and they're like this obviously

1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:35.679
<v Speaker 2>proves you are involved in Satanic cults. And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't worship that. I just sell things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he says, it's not my fault, serge, that

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<v Speaker 2>Christ and the Saints are out of fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a it's a good scene. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>that this that his use of these artifacts, whereas having

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<v Speaker 1>these artifacts on his person, like it's come back around

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<v Speaker 1>to bite him. And now this is evidence being supposed

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<v Speaker 1>evidence being thrown at him by the authorities here.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, though this artifact in no way appears to have

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with Satan, I guess it's just because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look Christian. Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think it fits with what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going for here, Like this is a guy who just

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<v Speaker 1>assumes anything that is a little bit foreign or un

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<v Speaker 1>Christian is just Satanic. Clearly these are these are occult items,

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<v Speaker 1>and George is up to bloody business.

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<v Speaker 2>But the inspector he has like a rage moment and

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<v Speaker 2>he like punches George. He's he's incredibly mad, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>complaining to this other guy, the creep who showed up

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<v Speaker 2>earlier to tell him about Satanic cults. He's like if

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<v Speaker 2>I just had more of a free hand with these criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, the George he escapes out the window and

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<v Speaker 2>then he runs to the hospital for the final showdown,

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<v Speaker 2>so you basically know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a big zombie showdown with all the characters, and basically

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<v Speaker 2>all of our main characters get killed by the zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>Here there's a great part where George lights an axe

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<v Speaker 2>on fire and he's swinging it at the zombies. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty brutal, and at one moment you think, oh, George,

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<v Speaker 2>is he going to be able to save Edna, But nope,

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<v Speaker 2>he when he gets her out of the room where

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<v Speaker 2>the zombies have attacked, she has star shaped pupils now,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's too late. She's already one of the zombies.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in a final brutal twist, George is shot

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<v Speaker 2>by the police. The inspector guns him down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just brutally guns him down, shoots him multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he kind of like leans over the body

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<v Speaker 1>and says something about how he wishes he'd come back

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<v Speaker 1>to life so he could kill him again in cold blood.

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<v Speaker 1>So just real, real brutal moment there. I mean not unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the mid seventies, but yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>the space of just a few minutes, Edna is mauled

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<v Speaker 1>by her own sister and who has become a zombie.

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<v Speaker 1>She becomes a zombie, and then our last protagonist is

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<v Speaker 1>just murdered in cold blood.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we kept it. Basically the only characters who

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<v Speaker 2>are left are the fascist cops. And so the inspector

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<v Speaker 2>is like riding around in a car with his sidekick

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<v Speaker 2>here and the guys like all the papers say you're

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<v Speaker 2>a hero, and he says, the inspector says, justice has

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<v Speaker 2>been a bit slow in these parts. All this permissive

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<v Speaker 2>rot going on. Maybe people will learn a thing or

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<v Speaker 2>two from my example here. And so so what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he gonna go into a career in politics now

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<v Speaker 2>or something? But nope. We we then see they drive

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<v Speaker 2>past another one of the Agriculture department machines and they

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy comments on it. He's like, oh, they're

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<v Speaker 2>setting up a new one of those now, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna They say, it's gonna rid all of the apple

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<v Speaker 2>orchards of pests. I'm just mad about apples. And the

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<v Speaker 2>cops laugh about this. Ah, apples. But then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's gonna happen now that they power up

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<v Speaker 2>another one of these. The Inspector gets to his hotel

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<v Speaker 2>room and the old Owl hotel, and who's there waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for him but the reanimated ultrasonic corpse of George to

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<v Speaker 2>get his revenge, and the Inspector meets his demise and

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<v Speaker 2>gets his comeupance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it almost kind of like Tails from the Crypt.

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<v Speaker 1>Nasty ending. Yeah, the most awful character in the film

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<v Speaker 1>survives to the end but then is killed in horrific fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>And then something is also quite fitting of Ecohar in general,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a sense that the threat is far from over.

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<v Speaker 1>The threat is going to continue to expand it's still

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<v Speaker 1>out there, which you know, isn't just about setting up

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility for a sequel or something, as it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>would would be in subsequent decades, but just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that like this is just the starting point

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<v Speaker 1>and the problem is going to spread and get bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to keep getting zombies and keep getting rage babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Rage babies and zombies and insects killing the apples though

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be amazing, we know, that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Though It's funny. I think you could probably come up

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<v Speaker 2>with a more plausible hard science fiction film just about

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen if you literally destroyed every single insect

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<v Speaker 2>within a five mile radius. So that seems like that

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<v Speaker 2>would have devastating consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like taking out most of your decomposers and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>just as one example. I mean, it would be dreadful

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<v Speaker 1>for the environment, dreadful for the apples too. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>pleased on a film like this shows some restraint because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a film where, yeah, there's some really gory

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<v Speaker 1>moments like the zombie the probably the goryouts are the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes where the zombies eat the cop, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a scene where they tear apart a nurse in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are very gory sequences. But I felt, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for my taste, they didn't go too far. And likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>plot wise, nobody fights a rage baby. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>scene we're all good whether rage babies run run wild

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<v Speaker 1>and George has to fight them off with his flaming acts.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some other moments in the film too, where I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like they showed a little restraint with the premise.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I think above all as even though

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these plot elements are kind of laughable

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, that they are presented with a seriousness and

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<v Speaker 1>a and a commitment to filmmaking that that makes this

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the more entertaining zombie films I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the night that I watched this, I just turned

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<v Speaker 1>it on just to check out part of it and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up watching the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree. I thought this was a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>excellent zombie movie. Surprisingly compelling action and characters in situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and beautiful looking. I like the horror design, but also

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<v Speaker 2>just all of the gorgeous locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there you have it. Let Sleeping Corpses lie

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<v Speaker 1>aka The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>cult favorite for years, and I understand why. This one's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun, So I definitely recommend it to

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<v Speaker 1>folks who want a bloody good zombie movie. Now, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think science is the enemy trying to turn all

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