Speaker 1: The Nikki Gliser Podcast.
Speaker 2: Nik Glaser, here's Nikki. Hello here, I am welcome to
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: It's Nicky Glazer Podcast. Exciting day on the show. Welcoming
Speaker 3: back to the show. She used to be a regular
Speaker 3: on it. She's been away for a bit.
Speaker 2: She's back.
Speaker 3: She has a new album out. You just heard her
Speaker 3: voice before you even hear heard mine.
Speaker 2: It's Onya Marina.
Speaker 3: She's with us today via zoom.
Speaker 2: What's up? Anya?
Speaker 3: So happy you're here. Noah and Brian are also here.
Speaker 3: I'm in Saint Louis in my studio. Noah's in Arizona.
Speaker 3: Brian's in La Anyas in New York. We're holding down
Speaker 3: all of the time. Waitter you mountain time zone, Noah,
Speaker 3: I forgot what Arizona does.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what times with Arizona?
Speaker 1: I thought, I know, So what does that mean for them?
Speaker 2: Right now? You know what I mean. I just go
Speaker 2: by your time. So I'm in Central time. What is
Speaker 2: it time? What time is it to you? Right now?
Speaker 2: It's nine ten am. Okay, your Pacific.
Speaker 3: Western So we don't have mountain times represented today, But
Speaker 3: shout out to all those people on the slopes right now.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if they're on the slopes right now.
Speaker 3: It is like in eighty six degrees in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: It's October thirty. First. I think we're setting We set
Speaker 3: a record yesterday for the highest temperature ever this late
Speaker 3: in the game. How's the weather where you guys are?
Speaker 3: Is that interesting? No, let's skip it. Wait unless it is.
Speaker 3: Is it interesting?
Speaker 1: The weather is not interesting over here. But I'm excited
Speaker 1: that we keep breaking new records. I mean, we're an
Speaker 1: amazing shit.
Speaker 3: It's so fun us A yeah, you s yeah, that
Speaker 3: is good. It does make climate change fun when you
Speaker 3: are like breaking records.
Speaker 2: It sounds like the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, broke the record for fastest death of the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ilieve people aren't though. Oh climate news, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: can't do it right now what it is, but I
Speaker 4: do remember seeing it on Instagram, which is where I
Speaker 4: get my news.
Speaker 2: There was something good.
Speaker 4: There is something good. Yeah, this is the first time
Speaker 4: in many years that the planet actually isn't getting hotter.
Speaker 3: I don't know, can't be true, but that absolutely can't
Speaker 3: be true.
Speaker 4: It's it's science. Like science, I can look at the.
Speaker 2: Thing that always kind of relaxes my body.
Speaker 3: When I get tense about climate change is that when
Speaker 3: people go, no, the planet's totally fine, don't worry, the
Speaker 3: planet is good to go.
Speaker 2: We are dying. We're going to die off.
Speaker 3: It is going to it's heating up like a fever
Speaker 3: does when your body gets a fever. It's trying to
Speaker 3: fight an infection. We're an infection that it's trying to
Speaker 3: fight off, and and it's just going through its naturals
Speaker 3: and and all life will probably die off, but we
Speaker 3: will actually no, not all, no, no. Even when the
Speaker 3: asteroid hit back in what year.
Speaker 2: Was that when that fucking thing hit that I read about.
Speaker 1: The New York nobody knows the actual year.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm setting up for. On his album
Speaker 3: is called Asteroid, So another asteroid just hit.
Speaker 2: A great.
Speaker 3: On his album is called Asteroid, which is like the
Speaker 3: coolest name for an album ever. It's, uh, how did
Speaker 3: you decide on that being the name? I think I
Speaker 3: was like in the car with you maybe when you
Speaker 3: were like should it be this?
Speaker 4: Well, there's a song on there called Asteroid that's about
Speaker 4: like just being depressed and walking out into nature and
Speaker 4: just being like fuck everything. When you have a fight
Speaker 4: with somebody and you're just like, how have I done
Speaker 4: all this?
Speaker 2: You have a fight with Matt Pond.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very specific a song too relate to. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: So when you have a fight with someone and you
Speaker 3: walk out into nature and.
Speaker 4: When you're just like, have you ever had this where
Speaker 4: you're like, how am I in the midst of a
Speaker 4: fight like a seven year old? And I've done so
Speaker 4: much work on myself, how is that possible?
Speaker 1: And then you go out in the woods and you
Speaker 1: think about how all the dinosaurs are dead and what's
Speaker 1: the point?
Speaker 4: Totally I do. I go into nature a lot. I
Speaker 4: need to go on walks a lot. And so I
Speaker 4: went for a walk this particular day and was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: I just want to fucking get hit by an asteroid
Speaker 4: or something. And I and I was thinking about that,
Speaker 4: like just picturing like laying down in a field and
Speaker 4: staring up at the sky. And sometimes that puts me
Speaker 4: in a good mood, and sometimes I like the eeriness
Speaker 4: of it. There's a line in the song about like
Speaker 4: the asteroid coming right for me, so I like that.
Speaker 1: It's quickly positive.
Speaker 3: Maybe that used to be my childhood fear. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: like to go look at the stars in Michigan. We
Speaker 3: would go to Michigan and it's so dark up there,
Speaker 3: like there's not a lot of like you know, light
Speaker 3: around you. So at night you can see all the stars.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like so cool to go out and sit on
Speaker 3: the dock. It's so dark. And I used to be
Speaker 3: terrified too, because if I I was scared of one
Speaker 3: of the shootings, hers is gonna like fall on me.
Speaker 3: Same with fireworks, but like what a.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because they could all those things could fall
Speaker 1: on you during the day too or anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also who do I think I am that's
Speaker 3: gonna hit me? Like, I think that's why when when
Speaker 3: people say I'm gonna die in a plane crash, I
Speaker 3: always go, You're not special enough. And someone told me
Speaker 3: that recently that I said that to them years ago,
Speaker 3: and they were like, it helps me all the time
Speaker 3: because you harshly were like, you're not that special that
Speaker 3: you're gonna be the one that gets to die. And
Speaker 3: like a passenger jet crashing like one of the only
Speaker 3: ones that's happened in this you are, Kobe.
Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't a passenger jet.
Speaker 3: I mean, like people who fly Southwest Delta United, Like
Speaker 3: those flights don't go down, you guys like in America,
Speaker 3: like we maybe like Malaysian Air. I'm egypt Who well
Speaker 3: those flights. I'm not trying. I'm not being racist when
Speaker 3: I say this, but like I feel like most times
Speaker 3: when I hear about a passenger jet going.
Speaker 1: Down, it's it's no, it's not me.
Speaker 3: I've researched it. I mean there have been ones. There
Speaker 3: was one right after September eleventh that got no love
Speaker 3: because we were still like about September eleventh, and then
Speaker 3: as soon as we realized it wasn't a terrorist attack,
Speaker 3: we were like moving on, but it crashed in Long Island.
Speaker 1: There was one, but to be fair, that plane was
Speaker 1: filled with people from Malaysia.
Speaker 4: Pushing the Malaysia thing stop.
Speaker 2: I just met.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, if you're a scared traveler and you're
Speaker 3: scared of flying, truly think about that, like you're you're
Speaker 3: not that important. It's like that's gonna happen. That's you're
Speaker 3: not gonna win the lottery.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna a guy of cancer or heart attack,
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 4: A normal childhood thing. I remember when I skipped school
Speaker 4: one day and I was like, oh, TV still happens
Speaker 4: when I am at home.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because you are still learning that like thing,
Speaker 3: like you don't know that other people have experiences.
Speaker 2: What is it called when you like learn that as
Speaker 2: a child.
Speaker 1: I think I asked us on this podcast.
Speaker 2: A million times.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My dog also doesn't have object permanence. That's why we
Speaker 3: can all do those TikTok challenges where you like put
Speaker 3: up a sheet and then your dog is looking at you,
Speaker 3: and then you run another room and you drop the
Speaker 3: sheet and the dog is like. One of my favorite
Speaker 3: things is when I take my dog to the park
Speaker 3: off leash and she's just kind of like.
Speaker 2: Getting a little brazen.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, she hasn't checked in on me in
Speaker 3: a little bit. And then I run behind a tree
Speaker 3: and I watch her like sniffing something, and then I
Speaker 3: see her go to like, oh, where's my owner?
Speaker 2: And then like go to look and.
Speaker 3: Then she's like and then she freaks out and starts
Speaker 3: like trotting around.
Speaker 2: It's so cute.
Speaker 3: It reminds me that I'm special and that I'm loved
Speaker 3: and that she does care.
Speaker 2: And do you ever do that?
Speaker 1: How does that? You think? Like maybe one day, I
Speaker 1: will die in a plane. Correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it reminds them who's boss.
Speaker 3: Due.
Speaker 4: Matt and I always like play dead around the house,
Speaker 4: which is fun. Or we'll hide and we'll see how
Speaker 4: good her sense of smell is. We'll like hide in
Speaker 4: the basement. Oh and pretend we're dead. It's probably mean.
Speaker 3: You're dead, is the weird part of it. I think
Speaker 3: hiding is one thing but that you have to put
Speaker 3: in like your debt, like you need you want to
Speaker 3: see if your dog would be sad if you die. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My sister and I used to do it to my
Speaker 4: dad all the time too, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, this is a childhood thing, like, Daddy,
Speaker 3: let me know that you care, duddy. Yeah. When you're
Speaker 3: a kid, you're just like so selfish you don't know
Speaker 3: about That's why it's so amazing when they're like little
Speaker 3: kids that you know, do like a a food drive
Speaker 3: or like they like earn money for the local animal shelter.
Speaker 3: When kids like have a heart, it's so beautiful and
Speaker 3: because it's not really that natural for them to like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it for them to be caring
Speaker 3: and sweet, but like for them to like think about
Speaker 3: the world a bigger world than themselves is. I mean,
Speaker 3: for anyone to do that is fucking rare. I mean
Speaker 3: anyone who like my assistant, I'll sometimes say like hey, uh,
Speaker 3: can I get this information? She's like, oh yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: do it when I get home. And then she's like, sorry,
Speaker 3: I was volunteering. I'm like, what where? She volunteers at
Speaker 3: a soup kitchen, like a local shelter and like sorts
Speaker 3: and hands up food.
Speaker 2: And she was like, it was a rough day to day,
Speaker 2: I had to leave early. It was just like two
Speaker 2: sad or like there'll.
Speaker 3: Be moments where she says that, but like she she
Speaker 3: and Noah, you worked at a community.
Speaker 2: Grin yeah, where they grew good for unsheltered.
Speaker 4: Yesterday, Matt and I decided we were going to volunteer
Speaker 4: at the local voting center. But we did that out
Speaker 4: of selfishness because we were like, these people are slow.
Speaker 4: It was such a long line. So he's like, next year,
Speaker 4: we're volunteering, and we're going to do this just to
Speaker 4: keep this efficient.
Speaker 3: Friends next year when the election doesn't feel is important,
Speaker 3: when you kind of forget to even vote next year, Well,
Speaker 3: I have two friends who.
Speaker 1: Do that in on Long Island. They volunteer at the
Speaker 1: election Steinman and all of who you know Steinmann?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember him from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they yeah, they do it every year, and
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just so poorly organized and run.
Speaker 1: It's like very difficult when you're volunteering to even like
Speaker 1: make make it better, because it's just they need you,
Speaker 1: they desperately need volunteer, especially now that like you know,
Speaker 1: all the election interference conspiracies that the people who do
Speaker 1: this are like actually somewhat in danger. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really like the system is uh not efficient.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: It's a week from now is going to be a
Speaker 3: different world.
Speaker 2: Like I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I'm like in I don't even I think I think
Speaker 3: moing crazy. I think I'm starting to have like a.
Speaker 4: Like a.
Speaker 3: Uh pre pre PTSD or something kind attack.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, next week we'll have certainty.
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean someone will.
Speaker 3: So one side will and then I hopefully, and then
Speaker 3: I think the other there will be if if things
Speaker 3: go the way I would like them to, I think
Speaker 3: there will be, it'll still be scared. But if I
Speaker 3: if they go the other way, I just literally don't
Speaker 3: know what my body will do. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know what the world will do, but I don't know
Speaker 3: what my physical body will do. After the first time
Speaker 3: it happened, I remember my mom was so upset. I
Speaker 3: like sent her flowers, but I was like, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be okay. It's just this is it was a new
Speaker 3: kind of fear. And now it feels like I'm going
Speaker 3: I just I just don't I can't even I don't
Speaker 3: even know what to say. I don't even know what
Speaker 3: your mom flowers? Yeah, because she was crying all day
Speaker 3: when Trump won. She couldn't stop crying. And I and
Speaker 3: I also just like tears of poy.
Speaker 2: I think my mom it might kill her.
Speaker 3: I'm not even joking you, Like, if you care about
Speaker 3: Julie Glazer living, will you please vote for Kamala because
Speaker 3: I think I think it will kill her. I'm emotionally,
Speaker 3: she is so upset about him that if he wins,
Speaker 3: the way she reacted last time eight years ago, it
Speaker 3: was I just don't know that it's gonna be okay
Speaker 3: for her. Like I'm really worried about her body, like
Speaker 3: breaking down because she was so upset. I didn't even
Speaker 3: think about that till now. Maybe that's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: It's like what my fragile mom will do.
Speaker 1: You can't have Kamala in office. She wants to give
Speaker 1: trans surgeries to rapists in jail. Haven't you heard?
Speaker 2: Wait no, I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought the trans rapists are going to come into
Speaker 3: the schools and do the surgeries during recess to the kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with their teeth.
Speaker 3: They really He's really saying that they are going. He
Speaker 3: said on multiple speeches that they are giving trans surgeries
Speaker 3: to kids and kids in elementary school. That your kid
Speaker 3: will leave Jimmy and come home Jane, which is there's
Speaker 3: it's just there's. It's never happened, it will never happen.
Speaker 3: Kimmel last night was great because he was like, please
Speaker 3: just send this monologue. This is for your republic can friends.
Speaker 3: No Republicans are gonna watch it. No fucking It's just no,
Speaker 3: there's no chance of that.
Speaker 1: Adam, not Jimmy Campbell.
Speaker 2: But it was just interesting.
Speaker 3: Because I don't watch his speeches and I don't really
Speaker 3: pay attention to all the things he says, because how
Speaker 3: can you that he goes on for four hours every
Speaker 3: speech and people like half his audience even fucking leaves
Speaker 3: people that like him, So how are people that don't
Speaker 3: like him supposed to listen to all of it?
Speaker 2: But they had to?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: Like, if you just want to hear some of the
Speaker 3: craziest shit that's being said right now that you might
Speaker 3: not be aware of because it just is like a
Speaker 3: bed of nails and it just all seems too much
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, there's no way that Like it's
Speaker 3: crazier than you even think.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so upsetting.
Speaker 3: But in a week from now, it'll just be more
Speaker 3: upsetting and that'll be great.
Speaker 1: It'lla longer than a week. It's we're not gonna know
Speaker 1: on Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: It's going to go into the next week for the
Speaker 1: swing states, I bet, just like last time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think is that we'll be uncertain. I
Speaker 4: just hope we're not. But because that's such an uncomfortable
Speaker 4: place just in life in general.
Speaker 2: You think it's gonna be so close, it's gonna be uncertain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna be counting those votes and can test
Speaker 1: to those votes.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be close, do you think.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a blowout. You're you're on the bobcast method.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of our writers on the NFL thing we
Speaker 3: did last week. We were all kind of like, what's
Speaker 3: what do you guys think? Like, I'm always scared to
Speaker 3: ask a group of people like what do you quit? Like,
Speaker 3: because everyone's paying more attention than I am of the
Speaker 3: people I hang out with, So when I asked them,
Speaker 3: I'm always just like, brace for impact. And Bob Castrone,
Speaker 3: good friend, head writer on Not Safe from the Key
Speaker 3: Glazer is positive it's going to be I'm all's gonna
Speaker 3: win to the landslide and I was really happy to
Speaker 3: hear that. And then everyone's kind of like on board.
Speaker 3: And then he said something and everyone's like, oh bulls.
Speaker 2: It just like.
Speaker 1: And she's gonna win Texas and you guys go fudo.
Speaker 3: All. I know that if you live in Missouri, please
Speaker 3: vote yes on UH.
Speaker 2: Yes on Amendment three.
Speaker 3: UH protect women's rights to have autonomy over their own bodies.
Speaker 2: Vote yes on three.
Speaker 3: That's very very important for everyone to keep everyone safe.
Speaker 3: And I I think both sides really do agree. They've
Speaker 3: done a lot of pulling and both sides kind of
Speaker 3: agree on on the fact that women should have access
Speaker 3: to safe abortions, you know, and I think we should.
Speaker 1: We should have we should be able to vote for
Speaker 1: any federal offices. Honestly, Like I was, I live in
Speaker 1: Culver City, which is only eighteen to twenty thousand people.
Speaker 1: It's like a small town. It's like smaller than the
Speaker 1: town I grew up in, even though it's in the
Speaker 1: middle of LA And we get to vote for Culver
Speaker 1: City City Council. And like the stuff that you're like
Speaker 1: debating about which council members to pick is like which
Speaker 1: stop signs to put up, and like what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do with like the homeless encament outside the sprouts. It's
Speaker 1: like these little.
Speaker 3: Small Why shouldn't you be voting on that stuff?
Speaker 1: That's I think that's the best stuff to vote for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, instead of voting for who is
Speaker 1: your senator. It's like that doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.
Speaker 1: It doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 3: Ryan, I think it does. Do not start this. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, Pody.
Speaker 4: Just go into the woods and look for an asteroid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about what we were saying. When things
Speaker 3: are not certain uncertainty when things go either.
Speaker 4: Way, you hate it, can't stand it.
Speaker 2: Like do you have an example of like you're.
Speaker 4: Waiting for an email reply hate, Like waiting on an
Speaker 4: answer of any kind really difficult to tolerate the uncertainty
Speaker 4: of life. I mean, go back to dating, Like I
Speaker 4: know it's been a long time for you since you
Speaker 4: were single. There is nothing worse than waiting for a
Speaker 4: text back. It's just like hell, you're just like fuck thrilling.
Speaker 3: It makes you feel alive, it makes you like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it gets your heart racing. When it finally comes through,
Speaker 3: there's like an exciting moment, Like I don't really get
Speaker 3: much of that in life anymore. Like you know, news
Speaker 3: comes in of like you're gonna host the Golden Globes
Speaker 3: and it's fun for a second and then it's like,
Speaker 3: oh boy, gotta work. But like when a guy texts
Speaker 3: you back, it's never like oh no, I've got to work,
Speaker 3: Like it's just like, oh, this will be fun. There's
Speaker 3: no like getting jobs is always a great it's great
Speaker 3: news or getting an assignment or something a payday coming up,
Speaker 3: but then you're like, oh, there's work attached.
Speaker 2: But not with crushes that stuff.
Speaker 4: Is so fun, it can't be Yeah, that's true. But
Speaker 4: I mean there's a reason they call it a crush too,
Speaker 4: because it can also be so painful.
Speaker 3: Is that why they call it a crush?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably it is, I.
Speaker 4: Think because you're just like, ah, it is fun, but
Speaker 4: it can hurt too when it I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 4: always go your way either. It can be like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're dating somebody else or they're not right way back.
Speaker 3: It doesn't ever go your way until it does go
Speaker 3: your way, and even when it does go your way,
Speaker 3: like then it's a whole other slew of things that'll happen.
Speaker 4: Or like like, I'm sure there are actors listening that
Speaker 4: have auditioned for something and it's just hell waiting to
Speaker 4: find out.
Speaker 1: Did You can't even wait, Like, if you're an actor there,
Speaker 1: you should just audition and forget about it because the
Speaker 1: chances of it happening are the same chances you're dying
Speaker 1: in a plane.
Speaker 2: Career, Yes, totally. That's why I like football. You just
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 3: I'm always like, you know, I've talked about it before,
Speaker 3: but I'm always like, is that guy is so embarrassed?
Speaker 3: Is that kicker so embarrassed that it like hit the
Speaker 3: pole like his what he has literally one job and
Speaker 3: it like didn't go like it's never changed, like the
Speaker 3: distance changes, but like.
Speaker 2: Just kick it as far as you can that way.
Speaker 3: And then like you are hired and you're paying millions
Speaker 3: suits you and you don't do it? Is that guy
Speaker 3: like like is his life ruin now?
Speaker 2: And what I've heard is like no, in football, you
Speaker 2: just kind of move on.
Speaker 1: Well they get fired, like they'll get fired that week.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you move on to another team or you
Speaker 3: move on to your new career over the weekend. Did
Speaker 3: you see I'm sure you watched the Bears game again
Speaker 3: in the Chargers and saw that I've.
Speaker 2: Heard it was the worst play.
Speaker 3: I listened to the Ringer podcast because I was like
Speaker 3: going down a deep dive on that play because it
Speaker 3: just seemed so insane and I wanted to understand the
Speaker 3: insanity and there's so much talk around it. I watched
Speaker 3: like a Bill Belichick talking about it. Will you have
Speaker 3: described that play and tell me why? These guys on
Speaker 3: the Ringer podcast, which is I guess a very popular
Speaker 3: sports podcast called it, without hyperbole, the literal worst play
Speaker 3: they have ever seen in any sport.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the thing is the one guy had the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't agree with that hyperbole. I've seen worse.
Speaker 1: I saw worse this weekend. I mean, I guess if
Speaker 1: you're calling it a play, well, yeah, like the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans. He was an NBA basketball team. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Warriors in the most shack you know shack.
Speaker 1: He was on TNT after No, it's Charles Barclay. Sorry,
Speaker 1: there's both, they both do announcers. Yeah, Charles Barklay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a racist thing. I mean, it was just
Speaker 1: it was both black men, and I thought it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Matter really famous black men from the nineties who played
Speaker 3: professional yet.
Speaker 1: So Charles Barkley said that that that that was the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing loss he's ever seen, because the Pelicans were
Speaker 1: up by twenty points, the Warriors had did not have
Speaker 1: their best two players and they were just cruising. And
Speaker 1: then the way the Warriors these bench players, these people
Speaker 1: have never I've never even heard of them, and I
Speaker 1: watched the college games. The way that these bench players
Speaker 1: made the Pelicans their bitch was so embarrassing. It was
Speaker 1: like it was like they just dominated them for three
Speaker 1: full quarters.
Speaker 3: All of them, Like they all got to share in
Speaker 3: that embarrassment. But like, wasn't the play from the Charger.
Speaker 1: The the well, the reason why that was so bad
Speaker 1: was because it was so unlikely that they would lose
Speaker 1: in that fashion.
Speaker 3: Right, wasn't the Chargers, It was the Washington Guardians. It
Speaker 3: was it was the Commanders, Commanders, Commanders versus Bears.
Speaker 1: The good news is did you know that for the
Speaker 1: last I think it was seventeen out of twenty elections,
Speaker 1: when the guard when the Washington team, whether it was
Speaker 1: the Redskins used to be the Redskins, now the Commanders.
Speaker 1: When the Redskins win, the incumbent party because they're the
Speaker 1: DC team, the incumbent party wins the presidency. When they
Speaker 1: lose the week of the election, then the challenger wins
Speaker 1: the presidency. So because the Commanders won this game, that
Speaker 1: means that Kamala should win the presidency based on precedents.
Speaker 3: Based on like our radio station doing like which Bowl
Speaker 3: is the.
Speaker 1: Twenty times?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, well that's interesting, but okay, this
Speaker 3: guy threw a hail Mary pass. Yeah, and in the
Speaker 3: last seconds of the game two and they were going
Speaker 3: to lose.
Speaker 1: Right, there were down by like four or five points.
Speaker 2: The guy who is going to catch it or one.
Speaker 1: Of the defenders.
Speaker 3: Defenders was like talking shit to the crowd, not even
Speaker 3: realizing that like a play was being made and.
Speaker 2: That a ball was like hurling towards him.
Speaker 3: The crowd had to be like, dude, a ball and
Speaker 3: then they scrambled to stop it. They all just all
Speaker 3: of the defenders like descend on what where the ball was.
Speaker 2: They all go up and hit it. He hits it
Speaker 2: like a volleyball. One of the players hits it like
Speaker 2: a volleyball.
Speaker 3: It just then perfectly falls into the hands of I
Speaker 3: forget who a guy in the end zone and they
Speaker 3: get a touchdown and they.
Speaker 2: Win the game.
Speaker 3: And it was like from the wasn't that from like
Speaker 3: the thirty yard line? Like so far away?
Speaker 1: It was so far away, it was like forty or
Speaker 1: thirty yard line. It was a hail Mary. It was
Speaker 1: a last ditch effort and the Commanders won. It was
Speaker 1: it was extremely disappointing for any Bears fan, and I
Speaker 1: also for.
Speaker 3: Bears fans too, Like, okay, if you have money on
Speaker 3: the game, find but like two.
Speaker 1: Hundred dollars, the Bears will win. I was not I
Speaker 1: was spending that.
Speaker 3: Money, sportsman, Don't you want crazy shit like that to happen?
Speaker 3: Like maybe not because it's such like a messy play
Speaker 3: and you're so disappointed.
Speaker 2: But like, isn't that stuff?
Speaker 3: To me? As a I was like obsessed with this
Speaker 3: because it was so rare and like fucked up and
Speaker 3: that so many people were making fun of it. Like
Speaker 3: that to me was like more exciting than if my
Speaker 3: team won. But actually I don't have a team, so
Speaker 3: I I maybe I don't know what that's like.
Speaker 1: That one was a little less exciting because it was
Speaker 1: so unbelievable and the person who caught the ball didn't
Speaker 1: have to do anything right.
Speaker 2: It was just it was like he was in the stands,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: There by design, Like that's the way they do their
Speaker 1: tail Mary's is they have a big clump and then
Speaker 1: there's always one guy behind the clump to get the
Speaker 1: tip backs. But like he really didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: It was just pure stupidity by the guy who just
Speaker 1: like swatted it up and luck and like it's it
Speaker 1: would be one thing if the receiver leaped up in
Speaker 1: the air and like just got a little higher than
Speaker 1: everyone else. And grabbed it down.
Speaker 3: That's the point that I think that I was saying,
Speaker 3: Maybe is the reason that people don't care is because
Speaker 3: it was just all like bad, like it didn't there
Speaker 3: was something impressive about any of it except the throw.
Speaker 1: It was like, well, the throw was pretty good. Jayden Daniels,
Speaker 1: who is the quarterback, shouldn't get any credit for that happening.
Speaker 1: It was pure luck.
Speaker 2: But that's to me.
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop like researching it and trying to find
Speaker 3: other people's and then I was like talking to so
Speaker 3: many sports fans and no one knew about it. I
Speaker 3: was like, did you guys see that hail Mary pass that?
Speaker 2: And everyone was just like no, I don't.
Speaker 3: Like. I talked to so many people and men I
Speaker 3: should say and I care about football, and they're like, no,
Speaker 3: I didn't say, and I couldn't describe it because I
Speaker 3: don't have the like verbiage for it, but that I
Speaker 3: was excited, that I was excited about it.
Speaker 2: But now I'm like, now I'm getting Now I'm mad.
Speaker 3: At myself because I get excited about the wrong things,
Speaker 3: Like no, I don't understand football.
Speaker 2: It's not even the right thing to get excited about.
Speaker 1: That's okay to be excited, but that was an exciting play.
Speaker 1: It was like a holy shit, but not in a
Speaker 1: like holy shit that was amazing. It was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: can you believe how stupid that guy is and how
Speaker 1: lucky the commanders just got?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well maybe that's my thing. Is I
Speaker 3: just like rare, crazy, like bad per performances. I like people,
Speaker 3: but also at the same time, when it comes to comedy,
Speaker 3: I do not like watching people bomb. I don't like
Speaker 3: people like totally missing it and having a really bad showing.
Speaker 3: I like people being and I like people be being
Speaker 3: like impressive either. I like to leave the room for
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 2: It threatens me both of them. Okay, we'll be back
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 3: All right, we're back on your Marina has a new
Speaker 3: album out, Asteroid. You can find it on Spotify, Apple,
Speaker 3: wherever you get your music. You can order the vinyl
Speaker 3: and I'm sure other Is there other ways to order it.
Speaker 2: On on your Marina dot com?
Speaker 4: Yeah to people mind CDs.
Speaker 3: I think CDs are the new vinyl, Like gen Z
Speaker 3: is like into it, how okay.
Speaker 4: Selling a lot of vinyl and uh, I'd say even
Speaker 4: more vinyl than CDs, but not all that much more.
Speaker 4: I'd say it's like seventy percent of the sales or
Speaker 4: vinyl and thirty or.
Speaker 3: CDs, Like I don't know where people don't have like
Speaker 3: CD players, like, oh, like a lot of pro are
Speaker 3: set up in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, cars mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: Surprisingly, I'm like, where are you guys going to play this?
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people, it shows by CDs because
Speaker 4: it's easier to carry around, But don't you.
Speaker 1: Plug your phone into the dashboard into the car.
Speaker 4: I think some people just want something from old cars
Speaker 4: to put on there, like Sean, Ohbrian just bought a
Speaker 4: vinyl and he's like, I can't wait to put this
Speaker 4: on my mantle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense because it's not just about playing the record.
Speaker 3: I think it's about having a big, like a portrait
Speaker 3: kind of thing, like something to frame, but a CD.
Speaker 3: No one's really framing CDs.
Speaker 1: On the first time I saw Anya, Marina was on
Speaker 1: a vinyl in your apartment before I ever met you.
Speaker 1: Nikki had a prominently displayed on your Marina album and
Speaker 1: I said, who's that and she goes, oh, don't ask.
Speaker 4: Story first roommate, I ever, not true at all? Best
Speaker 4: we first moved in together and I could not get
Speaker 4: any fucking furniture together. I and you were like, I
Speaker 4: hate to say this, but our house looks like American
Speaker 4: Psycho because we lived in this weird apartment in New
Speaker 4: York where all of the kitchen furniture was like industrial
Speaker 4: like on the Bear, It's like all like stainless steel,
Speaker 4: and it really did look like American Psycho in our apartment,
Speaker 4: just stainless steel counters.
Speaker 2: Your problem to get furniture.
Speaker 4: Well, you were like traveling a lot, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'll get stuff and I just kept like cutting out
Speaker 4: pictures and putting them on my visuboard or whatever, and
Speaker 4: you were like, Babe, we need a couch. It was
Speaker 4: three weeks in and you're like, I'm going to Ikia
Speaker 4: with Sabrina and Julie's and we're getting a couch. And
Speaker 4: then you remember, You're like, well you just trust me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3: It was more like, will you just trust Sabrina because
Speaker 3: I just I wouldn't have gone on my own to
Speaker 3: do it. I just knew that I like, she has
Speaker 3: really good style, and so I just knew I just
Speaker 3: will get the couch that Sabrina says to get and
Speaker 3: you were so right.
Speaker 4: I still have that couch.
Speaker 2: It's no way.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I bought an Ikea cover. You can buy
Speaker 4: covers that perfectly fit this thing on Etsy, and now
Speaker 4: we just have it. It's just blue. It used to
Speaker 4: be this ugly tan color and now we have a
Speaker 4: blue one. That's ugly. But my shape is the shape
Speaker 4: is right.
Speaker 3: That's so funny you still have that couch. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: that was a good situation we had.
Speaker 2: I loved I love being roommates. It was so fun.
Speaker 4: It was so fun. I really miss having somebody to
Speaker 4: bounce things off of every day, and I really miss
Speaker 4: someone being gone a lot of the day.
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. I'm surprised you're still
Speaker 2: friends after living together.
Speaker 4: It's I think it's an unlikely story. We have that
Speaker 4: together like for years, and then I like missed her
Speaker 4: so much when she she went to la You went
Speaker 4: to do not Safe, and that was the first time
Speaker 4: I was like, oh this, that's right. Like I've always
Speaker 4: been the friend that travels and all my friends are
Speaker 4: always like, I haven't heard from you in months, And
Speaker 4: then I remember, like you went and moved to l
Speaker 4: A and was like, I haven't heard from Nikki and
Speaker 4: like a month and a half. I remember I was
Speaker 4: like this before FaceTime was like, would you want to skype?
Speaker 4: And I remember skyping with you one day. We did
Speaker 4: a skype and you were like in the middle of
Speaker 4: a writer's meeting and it was so not the right time,
Speaker 4: and I remember I was just like, I need I
Speaker 4: need to give her space. She's working.
Speaker 3: Harn't remember this at all, But I am a friend
Speaker 3: that if it's if I'm not like, if we're not
Speaker 3: doing the thing where we always see each other, Like
Speaker 3: my friend's ships are always based on like we're working together,
Speaker 3: or we live near each other, we have like a
Speaker 3: ritual where we go to a class together or like,
Speaker 3: and if we're not doing that, like I don't stay
Speaker 3: in touch, like I it's almost like a I miss
Speaker 3: them so much. I don't want to be reminded that
Speaker 3: we don't have that thing anymore. So I just like
Speaker 3: cut it off. Like and I've hurt some friends feelings,
Speaker 3: I think when I'm like out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 3: But girls chet has kept me really hard, very much
Speaker 3: plugged into.
Speaker 1: Like girls Chat's important.
Speaker 2: It's the most.
Speaker 3: Important thing ever the other day, Holla was on being like,
Speaker 3: I don't you know, it's hard to make friends wherever
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm like, get on girls chat more.
Speaker 3: It gives you the illusion that you have friends where
Speaker 3: you are. I feel I don't like really crave friends
Speaker 3: when I'm in Saint Louis because I have girls.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm this is.
Speaker 3: The only time where I'm like still enough. But I'm
Speaker 3: not really like hanging with family that much. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of doing my own thing when I'm in Saint Louis,
Speaker 3: like alone most of the time, and but I have
Speaker 3: I have girls. I'm never alone because I always have
Speaker 3: the girls chat to go listen to something or put
Speaker 3: something out there.
Speaker 4: And do you get lonely?
Speaker 3: Ever, yes, I cannot cannot be like if I get
Speaker 3: home like last night I got home was.
Speaker 2: That last night?
Speaker 3: Jesus fucking Christ. I can't even talk to you about
Speaker 3: my weekend.
Speaker 4: It's just it's you want to talk to us about
Speaker 4: your weekend.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even it doesn't make My life doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense right now. It's so busy. It's I've asked for it.
Speaker 3: This is it isn't interesting. It's just insane.
Speaker 2: How much travel. I did this weekend.
Speaker 3: But I got home last night at nine and I
Speaker 3: asked my mom to pick me up in the morning,
Speaker 3: and she said, I guess, Like I heard that it
Speaker 3: literally I guess.
Speaker 2: And I go, you don't have to, I'll just get
Speaker 2: an uber. We're literally in like another country, like you've.
Speaker 3: Been in Mexico yesterday morning and I was like, Mom,
Speaker 3: I said to my bompman dad, Hey, is there any
Speaker 3: way that you wasted to pick me up with the
Speaker 3: dog at nine o'clock?
Speaker 2: I know it's late. I land.
Speaker 3: Then I guess I do never mind, Please do not
Speaker 3: You're not doing it. And she was like, no, I'll
Speaker 3: do it. I got nothing else going on.
Speaker 2: I go, yeah, I know. That's why.
Speaker 3: I asked, like, why would you Your dad is tennis? Okay,
Speaker 3: does he at tests till nine? Why doesn't he come? Yeah,
Speaker 3: well he has tennis at seven. It probably goes till night. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: I'll just get an uber. I'll get Goldie in the morning.
Speaker 3: I just wanted my dog because I am having a
Speaker 3: rough day and and I want to have a rough night.
Speaker 3: Are uff And she was like, I'll get you. Well,
Speaker 3: I can do it.
Speaker 2: Nick. I'm just like this is not.
Speaker 3: Like this, this doesn't feel good, like I'm thank you
Speaker 3: so much, but no thank you. And then it was
Speaker 3: just a fight of like I'm gonna get you, and
Speaker 3: then she did and it was nice. But that's I
Speaker 3: I when I get home from the road on a
Speaker 3: night and then I get home and I have nothing
Speaker 3: to do at night and there's no boyfriend here to
Speaker 3: like talk to me and watch TV with I just
Speaker 3: I don't know what I My whole kitchen will get eaten.
Speaker 3: I will eat until I am ready to go to sleep,
Speaker 3: and then I will go to like I sleep or eat,
Speaker 3: and I cannot watch TV without eating or talking to someone.
Speaker 3: So if no one's there to talk to, I will
Speaker 3: be eating the whole time until I feel sick and
Speaker 3: then I go to bed.
Speaker 2: And last night I watched Only Murders and.
Speaker 3: I had a lot to say about that too, Anya,
Speaker 3: for this sixt week, No there is. I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to watch things for the Golden Globes that are like
Speaker 3: ubiquitous that everyone knows about.
Speaker 2: That may or it may not be.
Speaker 3: You know, Only Murders is just something that's been around.
Speaker 3: You've never seen twenty twenty one never Oh, Okay, I know.
Speaker 4: Really great to start with Satan one because it's the
Speaker 4: beginning of a journey that really is fearing my God.
Speaker 3: Like, I knew your impression was good, but until I
Speaker 3: started watching last night, like I started talking like her
Speaker 3: to my dog, and my dog was so alarmed and
Speaker 3: like kind of got scared.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. That was so honestly, Anya, that.
Speaker 3: Was literal AI perfection. It's exactly how she sounds.
Speaker 4: It so worse as the seasons continue, not worse, I
Speaker 4: don't if you're listening. So no, it just gets more
Speaker 4: froggy ish it.
Speaker 3: It is an interesting show. I like the fact that
Speaker 3: Steve Martin wrote it. I just think that's so cool
Speaker 3: that someone in their seventies is still making like hit
Speaker 3: a hit TV show and like being so creative. And
Speaker 3: it really is a creative idea for a show. I mean,
Speaker 3: this isn't new to any any most people have seen
Speaker 3: the show Martin short isn't.
Speaker 2: Is beautiful and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh what Steve Morton's Steve Martin is amazing. And
Speaker 3: I was talking to gen ZM about it because she
Speaker 3: was like, please, girl, will you please watch Odie Murders
Speaker 3: because she's on season four, and I desperately. Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: here's why I pretend I'm watching it for the Golden Globes.
Speaker 2: Nikki, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: It's it's advantageous that it also is a you know,
Speaker 3: probably a Golden Globe contender, and it's nice that I
Speaker 3: would watch it. You know, I'm watching it because Martin
Speaker 3: Short and Meryl Street were dating and they fucking got together.
Speaker 2: Because of that show.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's so damn cute and I can't wait to
Speaker 3: see them fall in love on the screen.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things. You don't know they're dating.
Speaker 4: I have so many goosebumps.
Speaker 3: People are saying it's Taylor and Travis for people who
Speaker 3: don't like sports.
Speaker 4: That's so cute because they have such crazy chemistry, and
Speaker 4: I'm like getting horned up watching them horned up.
Speaker 3: They are so cute. They first spotted like holding hands
Speaker 3: on the red carpet. I think it's season three premiere,
Speaker 3: and that was just people were just like, oh, they're
Speaker 3: just friends, and then a really interesting meme popped up
Speaker 3: for me. And I don't know if it's true, and
Speaker 3: I don't mean to speculate, and it's none of my business,
Speaker 3: but at the Golden Globes last year. I believe Selena
Speaker 3: Gomez was talking to Taylor Swift and someone else. I
Speaker 3: forget who was at the table, and I think it
Speaker 3: was maybe, oh God, what's her name? I really like her,
Speaker 3: she's married to that guy that's in a lot of
Speaker 3: things whatever. And you saw Taylor sth go no, what,
Speaker 3: and you see Selena like being like yes, uh huh,
Speaker 3: and she's like, no way, they are something like that.
Speaker 3: It was a year ago, or you know, almost a
Speaker 3: year ago, so I don't remember the context, but it
Speaker 3: was like something shocking that Taylor was responding to, and
Speaker 3: it was really like a cute thing and people trying
Speaker 3: to lip read and figure out and Selena like put
Speaker 3: out at tweet at the time that said, this isn't
Speaker 3: what you think it's about.
Speaker 2: Everyone saw assuming it was.
Speaker 4: Something it was Timothy Shallow May and Kylie.
Speaker 3: Yes she They thought they were gossiping about Timothy. Timothy,
Speaker 3: by the way, timotha a lot of I did a
Speaker 3: Golden Globes promo day and they made sure that I
Speaker 3: got it as tim Hey Shallow.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: No one says that though.
Speaker 3: Uh it's I did both.
Speaker 2: I did both.
Speaker 3: I was like can we just get some Timothy's in
Speaker 3: case it's not, but I think it is timid Ay,
Speaker 3: So Timoday, Shalla May and Kylie where I guess, like
Speaker 3: you know, kissing and stuff. So everyone thought they were
Speaker 3: gossiping about them, and Selene was like, I was not
Speaker 3: gossiping about them.
Speaker 2: I was talking about.
Speaker 3: Two of my friends who are hooking up, not that
Speaker 3: it's any of your business. And cut to now we
Speaker 3: think it might have been she was telling Taylor and
Speaker 3: this other girl about Martin and Merrill, which would have
Speaker 3: definitely elicited.
Speaker 2: A no way.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like it's it's so cute. I can't
Speaker 3: even stand it. After reading his book, you if you've
Speaker 3: listened to the show for a while, you know how
Speaker 3: obsessed I got with I became a shorty and I
Speaker 3: like became obsessed with and short after reading his book
Speaker 3: and reading about like how much he loved his wife
Speaker 3: and after her death, like how devastating it was and
Speaker 3: how like cute, he was like, oh my god, there's
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, so his.
Speaker 3: Wife and it's really really really fucking sad, Like the
Speaker 3: book is like stained with my tears, like it's crumpled
Speaker 3: where like I like couldn't even turn the page because
Speaker 3: it was like I was crying so much. Then he
Speaker 3: goes on the Today Show like, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna guess like six months to a year after her passing,
Speaker 3: and Kathy Lee, I believe is that he's he's being
Speaker 3: interviewed about some animated show he's on or whatever movie,
Speaker 3: and Kathy Lee is like, let's talk about one of
Speaker 3: the greatest love stories of Hollywood.
Speaker 2: You and your wife. Are you still in love? Are
Speaker 2: you still is it?
Speaker 3: It's like it's she doesn't know about her death, so
Speaker 3: I liked, either she forgot about it or she didn't know,
Speaker 3: but she's asking him about his wife and how great
Speaker 3: their relationship is and how enviable it is, and it's
Speaker 3: one of the great Hollywood marriages, like they say, it
Speaker 3: doesn't last in Hollywood. You and Nancy have and and
Speaker 3: he's so cute because he doesn't go, actually she's passed.
Speaker 3: He doesn't correct her. He's just like, yeah, we still
Speaker 3: I still love her so much, we still are so
Speaker 3: in love, and he like answers it like that, and
Speaker 3: then in the book he explains that like when she said, like,
Speaker 3: you know, is it about communication?
Speaker 2: He's like something.
Speaker 3: About where he's like, yeah, it's about we communicate like
Speaker 3: so well, and he said I wasn't lying because I
Speaker 3: still talk to her all the time.
Speaker 2: It was so sweet, And that's that's my thing.
Speaker 3: When people go what makes you cry, it's always when
Speaker 3: people talk to dead people and say, like, you know,
Speaker 3: it started with Forrest Gump where he's.
Speaker 2: Like, Jenny, you'd be so proud of little.
Speaker 3: Forests like that, Like, was the first time I think
Speaker 3: I cried as a about an adult situation when I
Speaker 3: was a child. And then when dead people leave notes
Speaker 3: from and then people read them later on, those are
Speaker 3: like my two biggest triggers for just instantly weeping is
Speaker 3: like dead people being like I want you to go
Speaker 3: on and have a full life, and like someone's reading
Speaker 3: a letter knowing that they're gonna die can't handle it,
Speaker 3: and and that was and that was so cute though,
Speaker 3: And he said though that it was the first time
Speaker 3: he realized the power of social media because it was
Speaker 3: around the time when I guess like Twitter and was
Speaker 3: taking off or really gaining like popularity. And he said,
Speaker 3: you know what, that was embarrassing for Kathleen, But no
Speaker 3: one said anything about it and it's not gonna be
Speaker 3: a thing. And then he got in his car, like
Speaker 3: his town car that they have for him waiting outside,
Speaker 3: and Steve Martin called him right away like cackling, laughing
Speaker 3: and was like, haa, how did she not know? That
Speaker 3: was so funny and like had a good sense of
Speaker 3: you were about it. But he was like, wait, how
Speaker 3: did you know? And these goes it's all over Twitter
Speaker 3: and he's like, what's Twitter? And it was the first
Speaker 3: time in his long careers sees that something could be
Speaker 3: like seen that quickly and like become a thing, and
Speaker 3: it was it was interesting to even hear about that
Speaker 3: about how like back in the day in Hollywood, like
Speaker 3: rumors took months to start and like like things didn't
Speaker 3: catch on unless you were watching it live, like you
Speaker 3: wouldn't have known about it for a while.
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest problems with our society, yeah,
Speaker 1: is that things just happened so fast and then they're gone.
Speaker 1: There's no build up, there's no staying power. It's just
Speaker 1: it's they're in an instant and it's gone an instant.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's it's it's both a good thing and a
Speaker 3: bad thing. I think because I we've talked about before,
Speaker 3: but I whenever I worry about, like, oh what if
Speaker 3: I have this really bad showing at something like it's
Speaker 3: I can just always tell myself.
Speaker 2: It's people forget about it right away.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then also if it's good, they forget about it
Speaker 3: right away, so none of it really matters. Like Anya,
Speaker 3: you weren't even saying it's interesting we bring this up.
Speaker 3: It was before your album even came out, and you
Speaker 3: were saying, I'm having a depression. Maybe you didn't say
Speaker 3: the word depression, but I'm grieving it being done, like
Speaker 3: this big thing that it hadn't even come out yet.
Speaker 3: I think it was like a week before, and you
Speaker 3: were like, I'm already feeling a low grade depression about it,
Speaker 3: being like the anticipasion it's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because once an album is out, it's like people
Speaker 4: consuming it really fast and then it's like, okay, next,
Speaker 4: Like I just put out a new single I don't know,
Speaker 4: like a week ago from the album, which is still
Speaker 4: on the album. You can hear it.
Speaker 2: You are good.
Speaker 4: It's I put out a little visualizer for where the
Speaker 4: Darkness is. Oh yeah, and now it's been a week
Speaker 4: since I put it out and I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 4: put out another thing, and it's like it's been a week.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 2: No, it's not fine. Anya.
Speaker 3: A week is like an eternity social media to.
Speaker 4: Write that song, produce that song, mix it up song,
Speaker 4: and master that.
Speaker 3: It's it's insane. It's not fair. It's it's the way
Speaker 3: we consume things. It isn't fair. But you're it's you're
Speaker 3: You're not wrong to feel that way because it's it's
Speaker 3: kind of accurate that that is how fast things are
Speaker 3: are consumed now.
Speaker 2: Like do you.
Speaker 3: Are? You are? You're still in like the promo stage though,
Speaker 3: and still like in like the exciting like releasing and
Speaker 3: people are people like an album comes out, like a
Speaker 3: movie comes out. People see it and they're instantly like
Speaker 3: I love this movie, it's my favorite movie, or I
Speaker 3: didn't like the movie.
Speaker 2: I'll never see it again.
Speaker 3: Albums like I can listen to an album and I
Speaker 3: feel like anytime an album comes out, I go like, ah,
Speaker 3: it's okay, Like it's never instantly my favorite, because a
Speaker 3: song becomes your favorite upon the fifth to seventh.
Speaker 4: Listen, and that takes repetition.
Speaker 3: It takes repetition, and I think that's the only kind
Speaker 3: of medium that actually does take that long. Or maybe
Speaker 3: with a TV show, like it takes a couple episodes
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: But do you feel like that?
Speaker 1: No, I mean I didn't. I didn't like Mad Max
Speaker 1: Fury Road until I saw it the second But don't you.
Speaker 2: Isn't it true with a song?
Speaker 3: Like what do you guys think when you think about
Speaker 3: your favorite song? When did you know it was your
Speaker 3: favorite song?
Speaker 4: Yeah? With radio, when I was a DJ on the radio,
Speaker 4: I would be like, oh, I hate this song. I
Speaker 4: have to play it thirty times a day, and then
Speaker 4: within a week I'm like, this is my favorite song.
Speaker 4: And it's just because you're training your brain.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way with TV shows. If you
Speaker 3: watch you can watch an episode of a TV show.
Speaker 3: If I if you don't like it and I show
Speaker 3: it to you seven more times, you're not gonna like
Speaker 3: it more. Like I think that would be rare that
Speaker 3: you would like it more. Why is it that way
Speaker 3: with music?
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a great question.
Speaker 1: Songs are only like a few minutes, so you can
Speaker 1: listen to it again and again. That's one theory.
Speaker 4: You start hearing more things upon many listens, you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I didn't catch that before. Actually, when I watched movies
Speaker 4: a couple times, I'm like, oh, or Succession, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: would watch Succession be.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I never caught that. He was alluding to
Speaker 3: the other thing and the scene.
Speaker 2: It's unconnected.
Speaker 3: But I will say that there I have known right
Speaker 3: away with the TV show, but it's my favorite. I'm
Speaker 3: right away with a movie when it's my favorite, like
Speaker 3: there's but with my favorite songs, it is very rare
Speaker 3: that I know right away.
Speaker 2: There's one song.
Speaker 3: There's two songs that I can think of that I
Speaker 3: was like, these are gonna be two of my favorite
Speaker 3: songs forever upon first listen. One of them is Still
Speaker 3: Summer by Matt Pond, which I heard in a cafe
Speaker 3: and I shazamed right away before I knew it was
Speaker 3: Matt Pond and was like, actually mad it was Matt
Speaker 3: Pond because at the time, you guys were not like
Speaker 3: talking and I really didn't like him. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I texted you, fuck Anya, he's really good that this
Speaker 3: song is like one of the best songs I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: And then the other song, no one will even believe me.
Speaker 4: Wait, but I'm like a hint.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know that you would.
Speaker 3: It wasn't of your generation like I think it was
Speaker 3: just a little bit older than me to get this.
Speaker 3: But let me give you the let me give you
Speaker 3: the lyrics, not song.
Speaker 2: I can't understand.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, hold on, because I like the way that
Speaker 3: you're making me move. I like the way you're making me.
Speaker 3: Wait at the end of the night, when you make
Speaker 3: up your mind, you'll be coming on home with me,
Speaker 3: right girl? You know you want it, girl, you know
Speaker 3: I've got it. I can't wait to take get home.
Speaker 3: You know you got it tonight. I don't want to
Speaker 3: be rooted all yeah, girl.
Speaker 2: Don't be could do alone? My favorite part of the song.
Speaker 3: Can we do what we did last night again? Maybe
Speaker 3: you would not be bedfferent. Don't you think it's time we
Speaker 3: went a bit further?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: Every night and we say goodbye? Can I keep looking
Speaker 3: in your h wondering why you and I have and
Speaker 3: hit it?
Speaker 2: Can we get it on?
Speaker 3: And then this is the best? This is the course?
Speaker 3: Can uh something? And what did all right think about?
Speaker 3: Making mom moved? And that I can't understand when I
Speaker 3: hold in my hand and you're holding my body tight.
Speaker 3: That little thing that when I heard that, I can't like.
Speaker 3: It felt like a ball following downstairs. Can understand when
Speaker 3: I'm with I was obsessed. I heard it in a
Speaker 3: Best Buy and I was like, what is this. It
Speaker 3: was Soul Decision. They only had one hit song, and
Speaker 3: that was one of my favorite songs instantly because of
Speaker 3: that little thing, and I just knew.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why. Maybe it's because in songs, you you
Speaker 1: need something familiar that's slightly changed so that your brain
Speaker 1: is surprised by the musicality of it without being so
Speaker 1: off put that it's not like a pattern you recognize.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, And so it.
Speaker 1: Takes a while for you to get used to hearing
Speaker 1: that new thing, which you wouldn't. You won't like a
Speaker 1: song if it's just so familiar you've heard it a
Speaker 1: million times.
Speaker 5: I remember in the early aughts, Yeah, I heard this
Speaker 5: shit is bananas Bee Ana Na Yes, and I was
Speaker 5: just like, this is a new cool cadence and it's
Speaker 5: like bringing up you know, high school bands and.
Speaker 4: Orchestras and like it had orchestral roles in it, and
Speaker 4: I was just like, this is cool. And then everybody
Speaker 4: started doing stuff like that and same with like.
Speaker 1: Same thing right now. Oh yeah, yeah, history repeats itself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun when there are like new little trends
Speaker 4: that happen in music that are like probably old repeating.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I loved you did an interview with Kate Walsh on
Speaker 3: Instagram Live that I was watching, and you were talking
Speaker 3: about how you're like you're on the road with me,
Speaker 3: so you listen to a lot of Taylor Swift, and
Speaker 3: how you would never think that on your Marina would
Speaker 3: be like listening to this album, you wouldn't think, oh,
Speaker 3: she's gotten a lot of inspiration from Taylor Swift. But
Speaker 3: it was one of like it did change kind of
Speaker 3: the way you approach writing or lyrics. And I just
Speaker 3: want you to expound on that, because I was fascinated
Speaker 3: by that, and I didn't follow up with you, like
Speaker 3: exactly what you meant by that?
Speaker 4: Oh cool, Yeah, I think I was like, I like
Speaker 4: that Taylor can be really specific about stuff. And then
Speaker 4: I started looking at my lyrics and I was like,
Speaker 4: I've always tried to be a little oblique or like
Speaker 4: if you figure it out, you know, and I don't,
Speaker 4: And so I wanted to kind of like Mayor I
Speaker 4: don't know, like meet her halfway or like go a
Speaker 4: little bit closer to that, like why don't I tell
Speaker 4: more personal stories? And I did, like in Nothing.
Speaker 3: I think it was was it just not the trend
Speaker 3: when you started in music, or it wasn't like the
Speaker 3: music that you liked, like you were really inspired by,
Speaker 3: like Liz Fair, it was like do you think ye,
Speaker 3: that's it?
Speaker 2: Like it would just like I.
Speaker 4: Was flying into Chicago at night watching the lake turn
Speaker 4: this guy into blue green smoke that song she has
Speaker 4: Stratford on Guy that I love, like I would have
Speaker 4: to pick that apart and like, wait, what does she mean? Okay,
Speaker 4: she's on an airplane. She's descending, they're about to land
Speaker 4: in Chicago. Okay, cool, Like I like figuring out what
Speaker 4: a song is about. I don't like when something's like
Speaker 4: and then I went to the store and then I
Speaker 4: at this. I don't want it to be too black
Speaker 4: and white, but it's just boring to me, or it's
Speaker 4: not like as poetic or artistic. I love it doesn't
Speaker 4: it's not like I like one or the other. But
Speaker 4: I just thought like I could be more vulnerable and
Speaker 4: that this album definitely is. It's like I wanted to
Speaker 4: write I would think like, oh, I had a fight
Speaker 4: with Matt, But I don't want to write that I
Speaker 4: had to fight with Matt. And then I'd be like, no,
Speaker 4: you should write exactly how you feel right now.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to like I don't relate to that.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to write about that?
Speaker 4: Because like, I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't want
Speaker 4: to write a lyric that's like I got in a
Speaker 4: fight with my boyfriend tonight, which I did not do that,
Speaker 4: but I did.
Speaker 3: Talk the lyric that you are like kind of alluding
Speaker 3: to I have tried to fix it before.
Speaker 4: I have tried to fix myself, straighten out the bumps
Speaker 4: and flat and war and bent, heal the parts that
Speaker 4: needed help. I've tried to fix myself, spent my whole
Speaker 4: life growing up, and yet here I am. I'm just
Speaker 4: a kid with one hundred miles to go till I
Speaker 4: get to where I need to get. In moments just
Speaker 4: like these, it feels like I left everything that I've
Speaker 4: ever learned behind. So it's kind of like capturing that feeling,
Speaker 4: like feeling dejected and like God, I don't know anything.
Speaker 4: I hope that comes across.
Speaker 3: It feels like introspective rather than blaming and like aggressive towards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the persons like super specific. I mean, I hope
Speaker 4: it's a little poetic and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very poetic, absolutely, and you could you could have said, man,
Speaker 1: but what was better than that?
Speaker 3: I'm wondering though, like what why, what's the what's the
Speaker 3: fear of being less poetic? Not that I would want
Speaker 3: you to be, but like, what what is something like
Speaker 3: you just think it sounds like too immature?
Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't interest me, interest you. I want to
Speaker 4: make something that interests me.
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it?
Speaker 1: That's the artist's answer. Yes, you're an artist.
Speaker 4: Like when I was making my first real major label
Speaker 4: record that was on Atlantic, I was really interested in rhythms.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of like drum loops on that album.
Speaker 4: Like so I wasn't so interested in lyrics. I was
Speaker 4: making songs that are like then, like a little more
Speaker 4: like the ding Dings, you know, And that was interesting
Speaker 4: to me at the time. But as I've gotten older,
Speaker 4: you know, like I'm in a different phase of my
Speaker 4: life and I'm thinking a lot about like where am
Speaker 4: I in my life? Like so a lot of the
Speaker 4: record is just about existence and like we're in a
Speaker 4: different place now than I was in the early adds,
Speaker 4: Like I'm thinking about the planet and I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: like are we going to exist? And I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: that I didn't have children and I got married late
Speaker 4: in life, and like I want to make a record
Speaker 4: for someone else. That's like I have gotten married yet either,
Speaker 4: do I even need to? I don't know if I
Speaker 4: want to have kids, Like there are songs on here
Speaker 4: that talk about that too.
Speaker 3: You like made a record for yourself, like for yourself,
Speaker 3: which is always the place to write from as an artist.
Speaker 3: Probably is just you know, not giving people what they
Speaker 3: want and doing what you want and what interests you.
Speaker 3: But because it's hard though, because you listen to Taylor Swift,
Speaker 3: I'm sure and you're like, this is what's popular, this
Speaker 3: is what people want.
Speaker 2: I should like change to that.
Speaker 3: Whereas you probably found a way to like learn what
Speaker 3: instead of rejecting it and being like, oh god, this
Speaker 3: is what's in this is what I do.
Speaker 2: What's interesting about this?
Speaker 1: To me?
Speaker 3: Is there something interesting about this besciscifity of Olivia Rodber
Speaker 3: yougoa Taylor swift a chapel roone that like, did you
Speaker 3: were you able to find like what you liked about
Speaker 3: it as opposed to like, oh this is annoying and new.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't mind anything new almost. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean maybe that's not true, but like you played me,
Speaker 4: what's the one about?
Speaker 2: Kid? You kid?
Speaker 4: You're on your own? Kid? You're on your own kid?
Speaker 4: Blew my mind because I was like, not only is
Speaker 4: this melodically really pretty? And that has a descending line?
Speaker 4: So you like you like that when you are yeah
Speaker 4: that part?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what it's called a descending line.
Speaker 4: I think it kind of goes down. So does the
Speaker 4: paper cuts a thousand cuts?
Speaker 2: No no no, no, no no? And Betty and yeah I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So what you're on your own? Kid? Does that
Speaker 4: kills me? Like you you talk about like somebody being
Speaker 4: kind makes you cry or somebody like talking about like
Speaker 4: what killed me? In that song is where she says
Speaker 4: I went to the party. Do this lyric about the.
Speaker 3: Better body I hosted parties?
Speaker 2: Uh sorry, stop buying body?
Speaker 3: I start, Yeah, like I got I'm so bad at
Speaker 3: coming up with her lyrics when I don't have the
Speaker 3: song in front of me. I hosted parties and starve
Speaker 3: my body like I would be saved by a perfect kiss.
Speaker 3: The jokes weren't funny. I took the money. My friends
Speaker 3: from home don't know what to say.
Speaker 4: I looked around my favorite Taylor's swift lyric like that
Speaker 4: is so revelatory, like she's calling herself out, like I
Speaker 4: took the money. I like, that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like to me, that's just brave to say.
Speaker 3: That's why I love. And we'll go to break after this.
Speaker 3: I love, and I want to talk more about this
Speaker 3: when we get back. I'll tell you what I love
Speaker 3: when we get back.
Speaker 2: Agay with this because we get it at break.
Speaker 3: What I was going to say before we went to
Speaker 3: break is that I loved and I've probably talked about
Speaker 3: it before. Matt Healy from the nineteen seventy five not
Speaker 3: to talk about someone. It has nothing to do with Taylor,
Speaker 3: but I was listening to him talk about one of
Speaker 3: my favorite songs, the birthday song.
Speaker 2: I think it's called and there was.
Speaker 3: It became one of my favorite songs, and then I
Speaker 3: found it a whole podcast where he was talking like
Speaker 3: for an hour about writing this one of my favorit songs,
Speaker 3: and that was also a song. The first time I
Speaker 3: heard it, I was like, I love this and one
Speaker 3: of the lyrics and it was like, I want to
Speaker 3: go somewhere I'll be recognized.
Speaker 2: Can we go?
Speaker 3: I want to go to a party where? Can we
Speaker 3: go somewhere that people will recognize me? And he said
Speaker 3: it's something like that, And he said in the interview
Speaker 3: about it that he wrote that lyric as kind of
Speaker 3: like a maybe a placeholder. I'm kind of paraphrasing, but
Speaker 3: he wrote it, and then he instantly was like, I
Speaker 3: want to take that out. That's so embarrassing, Like I
Speaker 3: can't write that in a song that's going to go
Speaker 3: out that I am a celebrity that wants to be recognized.
Speaker 3: And he said that whenever he has that reaction, he
Speaker 3: has to leave it in. He is forced to, like
Speaker 3: he cannot pull something because it's embarrassing or because he
Speaker 3: wants to look cool.
Speaker 2: And I really respect that kind of art form.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed when people do something. I mean, that's why
Speaker 3: I like love comedy. It is because people say things
Speaker 3: that I'm like, oh my god, you're not supposed to
Speaker 3: say that, And like now people like me more because
Speaker 3: I'm saying this thing that I never thought i'd told
Speaker 3: anyone and is something that's so humiliating about myself, and
Speaker 3: I get to have I get to say how it's said,
Speaker 3: I get ownership of it.
Speaker 2: It's you know, I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 3: What's what's a lyric that comes to mind for you
Speaker 3: in this song that you were like, well, that's also.
Speaker 4: Why I became friends with you as I heard you
Speaker 4: on a podcast talking so openly about an eating disorder.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what, I never had one of those.
Speaker 4: I was driving around like I need to hear this.
Speaker 4: I can't believe someone's talking about stuff I've thought about
Speaker 4: and she's not ashamed at all. And then to become
Speaker 4: friends with you was even like I can't even believe
Speaker 4: this is happening like that, you know, I get to
Speaker 4: be friends with somebody that's like, no, of course, I'm
Speaker 4: not ashamed to order a salad the way I want
Speaker 4: to order a salad. I remember, I was right, here's
Speaker 4: so anything that you could do? That a lyric that
Speaker 4: I remember, Like I wrote London Blues, which is the
Speaker 4: closing song on.
Speaker 2: When we were on tour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were in London together, you mean missus Matt.
Speaker 4: I was missing Matt, and I was just like I
Speaker 4: was experiencing like jealousy or feeling threatened, like he was
Speaker 4: on tour and I was on tour, and we were
Speaker 4: like hemispheres away from each other in totally different time zones.
Speaker 4: And it's basically just about all of my fears of
Speaker 4: being abandoned like came up. And you know, I had
Speaker 4: been in a relationship where I'd been totally been lied
Speaker 4: to for many, many years and didn't know about it
Speaker 4: until the end, and so and you know, all this
Speaker 4: trust stuff started coming up. And I can't remember exactly
Speaker 4: if there's like a lyric specifically about that, but it's
Speaker 4: just basically about, like the line I love is. Ever
Speaker 4: since I learned that love could be forsaken, I've been
Speaker 4: letting go of anything worth taking. I won't be mistaken.
Speaker 4: So I stare at the moon and fight these London
Speaker 4: blues tonight. And it's just basically about, like, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to keep people at arm's length because I don't
Speaker 4: ever want to get hurt if I just keep it.
Speaker 3: You have trust issues, yes, yeah, which is kind of
Speaker 3: embarrassing to admit. At you know, like as a fully
Speaker 3: grown woman, yes, to admit you're still dealing with these
Speaker 3: kind of immature things that you acknowledge are like not
Speaker 3: like not helping you in life. Like you're admitting that
Speaker 3: you are struggling with stuff which you like. You literally
Speaker 3: can't not do that as an artist unless you're a rapper.
Speaker 3: I guess, like, I think a lot of hip hop
Speaker 3: is about like being braggadocious, not all of it, but
Speaker 3: like there is that that sometimes cannot have a vulnerability
Speaker 3: to it. But I'm I'm talking out of line because
Speaker 3: I don't listen to it enough rap to really know
Speaker 3: like that, but there was there is a genre of it.
Speaker 3: I think that is just all like I'm doing so well.
Speaker 3: That's why I really liked Taylor Tomlinson was on Trash
Speaker 3: Tuesday talking about Sabrina Carpenter and she was like, I
Speaker 3: mean it's great, but I just don't relate to anyone
Speaker 3: that confident, like that's like you should be so grateful
Speaker 3: to fuck me. Like I thought that was such. It
Speaker 3: was so such a great take on on Sabrina Carpenter's
Speaker 3: music of like why it's maybe not so really to
Speaker 3: some people, it's because this girl's just too confident.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: I remember years ago Kanye West called out all the
Speaker 4: indie rockers and he's like, this is what's wrong with
Speaker 4: you guys, is you don't have this confidence that we have.
Speaker 2: Is this thing sometimes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's really really hard to write, or at
Speaker 4: least it was, I would say in the nineties and
Speaker 4: early two thousands, it was really hard to write as
Speaker 4: a Uh. I don't mean to sound like, oh, it's
Speaker 4: so hard to be white and indie rock, but like
Speaker 4: it if you started writing in a confident way, then
Speaker 4: it just didn't land right.
Speaker 3: It just sounded like you were a kud yeah, because
Speaker 3: it is kind of could to be confident. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: when you're in the pop world like Sabrina, especially now
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, like go for It, it's like.
Speaker 4: All girl power, like do it. I was just doing
Speaker 4: everything with a wink. Anyway, I was on stage this
Speaker 4: weekend and.
Speaker 3: Was just talking about how I masur rate or something
Speaker 3: that was just like it's part of my act, like
Speaker 3: and when on all audience is like my audience like
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel Oversharry, it feels like I don't even
Speaker 3: like I don't have to like steel myself to get
Speaker 3: into this like very graphic description of how I have.
Speaker 2: My most intimate alone moments.
Speaker 3: But then I had this moment this weekend where like
Speaker 3: people weren't really feeling it, and like it was like
Speaker 3: a it's a show I'll talk about when I have
Speaker 3: more perspective on it in years to come, but it
Speaker 3: was it was a set that like was not my
Speaker 3: favorite thing that I've ever done, and I can't wait
Speaker 3: to talk about it someday because it's going to be
Speaker 3: like a part of my origin story of whatever I
Speaker 3: become because it was so not fun. But but I
Speaker 3: was on stage like doing my act because I have
Speaker 3: nothing else to do, you know, Like I gotta just
Speaker 3: do my jokes. And that's one of my favorite jokes
Speaker 3: to do when I'm on stage performing for people who
Speaker 3: actually like me, and these people did not final thought,
Speaker 3: and so I'm talking about these people don't like me,
Speaker 3: and now I'm talking about how I masturbate and it's
Speaker 3: kind of graphic and over the top, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I can't but I feel so embarrassed. I've never once
Speaker 3: felt embarrassed by that joke. I've never once had the
Speaker 3: reaction that I think some people have of my material,
Speaker 3: which is like, how do you get up there and
Speaker 3: say that to people? And I guess now I know why.
Speaker 3: It's because usually people like it. People are like, I
Speaker 3: feel not judged. I feel that people are refreshed by
Speaker 3: if it's something that they would never do and never
Speaker 3: say and can't even imagine someone would do. At least
Speaker 3: they're laughing at, like, oh wow, I have a weird
Speaker 3: thing I do alone too. These people were like, we
Speaker 3: don't like you, we don't. We haven't liked anything you've said,
Speaker 3: and now you're being way too graphic and why would
Speaker 3: we We don't care about you, Why would we care
Speaker 3: about this thing that you think you're so quirky and interesting?
Speaker 2: It just was so fucking humiliating, and.
Speaker 3: I honestly it was right on the heat after that,
Speaker 3: and everyone everyone was sending me like going, you know,
Speaker 3: like every comedian this weekend was having having massive text
Speaker 3: threads about obviously Tony Hinchcliffe set at the Trump rally,
Speaker 3: and and my response to all of them was I
Speaker 3: had a worse set. I had a worse experience because
Speaker 3: it was I felt I felt more compassion for him
Speaker 3: than I think most people did. After his set, because
Speaker 3: I if I wouldn't have had that set, I think
Speaker 3: I would have had more of a cattiness about it
Speaker 3: and a more of like what was he? You know,
Speaker 3: like just a snarky opinion, but as a comedian that
Speaker 3: did that just hit the wrong tone for the thing
Speaker 3: that I was asked to do.
Speaker 2: Like I really felt it.
Speaker 3: I was really happy mine wasn't like televised or tweeted about,
Speaker 3: thank god, but it was really this moment of like,
Speaker 3: this is who humiliating?
Speaker 2: Like I it would.
Speaker 3: Be like, you know, singing one of your most vulnerable
Speaker 3: songs to a crowd of people who aren't listening, And
Speaker 3: I think, Anya, you've you've dealt with that before. I
Speaker 3: think as musicians, people talk over you guys way more
Speaker 3: than they do comedians. It's not like a common thing
Speaker 3: where I am like performing for people who are not
Speaker 3: listening and don't want me to keep going and want
Speaker 3: me to be done. And I think just growing up
Speaker 3: with a dad who performs, like every show I go to,
Speaker 3: people are talking the entire time he plays the entire
Speaker 3: time like it's not even like there's no it's not
Speaker 3: like people are like, wow, this is offensive.
Speaker 2: Some people are like shush.
Speaker 3: It's like we all agree we're going to talk the
Speaker 3: whole time, including me, Like because.
Speaker 4: He's doing covers, that's it's not fair, but that's what is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. But even first, I think
Speaker 3: when I see singer songwriters at like bars or whatever, no,
Speaker 3: people are just talking. Yep, it's background music. It's that's
Speaker 3: the gig. But it was it was eye opening. But
Speaker 3: I had an epiphany after that set where I was like,
Speaker 3: I want to write a clean hour.
Speaker 2: I just need to for these gigs where I.
Speaker 3: Don't have to, like they don't get that, they don't
Speaker 3: get that intimate joke that I wrote that is like
Speaker 3: for people who actually like me, and if you don't
Speaker 3: like me, I'll just go in into my like safe
Speaker 3: set because that's all you deserve, and not that it
Speaker 3: would be like worse material, but it's like I don't
Speaker 3: want every joke I make to be this like really
Speaker 3: like like reading my diary, like you don't get a.
Speaker 1: Really good challenge though too, to do a yeah what happens,
Speaker 1: what happens?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's my next challenge.
Speaker 3: I decided, like I'm like, without question, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's I don't know if it's going to be my
Speaker 3: next special, but it's my when I start, because my
Speaker 3: next special is kind of like coming up sooner than
Speaker 3: I would need to prepare for Clean Special. But I'm
Speaker 3: also like, oh, that's that's what you got to do
Speaker 3: in this business. You can't just keep being the same
Speaker 3: thing over and over. You have to go, oh, here's
Speaker 3: a here's a way to market it. Nikki Glazer's putting
Speaker 3: out a whole clean special that you can watch with
Speaker 3: your family.
Speaker 4: Nick Blazer comes clean up with that. That's really good.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I've heard that before. That's really
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, Chris has been asked me to do it.
Speaker 3: I think Matt even said something about it too. And
Speaker 3: it's like just as a but it's like I just.
Speaker 2: Don't want to. I don't want to feel that way anymore.
Speaker 3: Where I was like, I just gave of myself and
Speaker 3: these people were just like disgusted by, not even disgusted,
Speaker 3: like just disinterested.
Speaker 2: And it feels really bad. It's so bad.
Speaker 4: I had that on Friday night at a show and
Speaker 4: I was all confident going out. It's opening up for Nikki,
Speaker 4: and this theater filled with two thousand people and then
Speaker 4: I start my song girl Shit, which is so quiet
Speaker 4: and intimate, and I just hadn't set it up properly
Speaker 4: and I just lost them, like within ten seconds. You
Speaker 4: can just hear like no, no, no. And then it's
Speaker 4: like a thousand people are just like can you pass me? Remember?
Speaker 1: Why were they so easily lost?
Speaker 4: They were drunk. They were still entering the theater, which
Speaker 4: I kind of love that, Like I love a challenge.
Speaker 4: I've played thousands of gigs like put me in a
Speaker 4: bar and grill, I'll figure it out, Like I pride
Speaker 4: myself on like being able to play through anything. I
Speaker 4: just didn't set it up right, and I should have
Speaker 4: been like, let's bail on this song and do something else.
Speaker 4: But I didn't bail. I was just like just keep
Speaker 4: playing it, just through it.
Speaker 3: But it just sucked.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking in that moment, I need to
Speaker 4: have quicker outs. I need to have a couple yeah,
Speaker 4: like more like upbeat songs, or I need to have
Speaker 4: like more exits.
Speaker 3: Show I had the same thing, like I think that
Speaker 3: after that show, I just was like, this cannot ever
Speaker 3: happen again. That was so deeply uncomfortable and not an experience.
Speaker 3: I would ever even wish on my worst enemy that
Speaker 3: I went through and I can't do that again to myself.
Speaker 3: I'm glad it happened for the sake of like, you know,
Speaker 3: all the tiktoks that come up, all the reels that
Speaker 3: come up that are like you about failure. I've been
Speaker 3: getting a lot of them because I guess my phone face,
Speaker 3: I'm like I need them.
Speaker 2: But like I don't know if you guys get a
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But like how Kobe talking about like if he's not failing,
Speaker 3: he is not interested in like the that's not a
Speaker 3: process he's interested in, like you gotta fail in order
Speaker 3: to be better. And I was talking to my mom
Speaker 3: about this set last night when she drove me home,
Speaker 3: and I was kind of She was like, you need
Speaker 3: to just get over it, you know, like we got
Speaker 3: to get over it.
Speaker 2: You're moving on.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I am, I'm you asked me how
Speaker 3: it went. I have to tell you, and I'm grateful
Speaker 3: that it won't ever happen again.
Speaker 2: I will never.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's really hard get over it.
Speaker 3: Well, she was so dismayed, like for her to hear
Speaker 3: her daughter who she was like, your dad and I
Speaker 3: when we when you told us about that, we all
Speaker 3: day yesterday. We just couldn't get over it. We were
Speaker 3: so upset for you. And it was really sweet because
Speaker 3: they just were like, you just don't want your daughter.
Speaker 3: I like felt for them, like I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I told them, like how like you don't want your
Speaker 3: daughter to be embarrassed for an hour on stage? Like
Speaker 3: it's not just like ten minutes of like duh, that
Speaker 3: felt weird, Like think of being embarrassed for an hour,
Speaker 3: like straight like have it tripping over yourself in front
Speaker 3: of everyone for an hour.
Speaker 2: It's like tumbling downstairs. Think it's the last time you
Speaker 2: fell in the crowd.
Speaker 3: Now just keep picture of falling for an hour and
Speaker 3: not having to show that you're falling, Like it's like
Speaker 3: that's what it felt like, and it's and so I
Speaker 3: think my mom was just trying to like help herself
Speaker 3: get over it. She's like, we're just moving on from this,
Speaker 3: like it's not gonna happen. And I'm like, it won't
Speaker 3: happen again, Like I will never and I will always
Speaker 3: be prepared for something like that in the future, or
Speaker 3: I won't do a gig like that in the future.
Speaker 3: Like one or the other. But it just it did
Speaker 3: remind me though that you need you need to fail.
Speaker 2: You so true.
Speaker 4: You have to be grateful for these failures because they
Speaker 4: make you better. Like I I killed it the night
Speaker 4: after I bombed because I was so furious at myself
Speaker 4: and I was like, I will not bomb again. And
Speaker 4: I had two great shows. Even Matt was like, that
Speaker 4: was one of the best shows I've seen you do
Speaker 4: like the second night because I was so pissed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it lights a fire, like I gotta get on
Speaker 3: stage again.
Speaker 2: Was the last show I did. I was like, damn
Speaker 2: it because everyone goes too, you know.
Speaker 3: I was with my friend and he's like, you're gonna
Speaker 3: be over this in twenty four hours, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not until the next show I do. It's not
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna shake this off.
Speaker 4: And guys, there's the Funny Bone tonight.
Speaker 3: I should run out and get another set. I just
Speaker 3: I just want to. I want to rest for a
Speaker 3: couple of days.
Speaker 2: I thank you. I should You're not wrong.
Speaker 3: I should do an Oh my dad actually is performing
Speaker 3: tonight at the Pasta House.
Speaker 2: I might just like, you should buy a song with them?
Speaker 2: May you do a song. I gotta cut my nails
Speaker 2: though to do a song.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna have one more episode with On Your
Speaker 3: Marina tomorrow you uh, you know we will. We're about
Speaker 3: to record it, so it'll be then extension of this conversation.
Speaker 3: I hope you are there for it tomorrow on the podcast.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening today. Check out On your Marina.
Speaker 3: She has a new album Asteroid. You can get the
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Speaker 2: Bika, and Bye.
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