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Speaker 1: week eleven Sunday NFL recap episode coming on a few

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Speaker 1: minutes later. As we sweat at the end of the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams game. I am Chad Milman. I am joined

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Speaker 1: by by BFF, my companion Michael Padre, and my co

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Speaker 1: host Professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, so I man, all

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Speaker 1: I can say is thank god we can drop our

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Speaker 1: two worst weeks after Thanksgiving because we are living in

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Speaker 1: the danger zone tonight, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I can't and complain just I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna go through all of it. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: that Bears game, we all knew what was coming, and

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Speaker 2: I mean you've moved because you're a Bears fan, don't

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Speaker 2: even Oh my, I can't even be that mad that

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Speaker 2: we're one and three because we should be zero and four.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's we.

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Speaker 1: Are we are eight. Well, we'll get to it. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was gonna say, it's it sucks. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's bad weeks coming and you try to fight them off.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's we've had back to back weeks now

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Speaker 2: we keep leaving winners off and taking the wrong lines,

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, got gotta be better, got to learn

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Speaker 2: from it. But that's how it is. Every every week

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Speaker 2: it's a new lesson and uh I'm hoping like you

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Speaker 2: are that we escape not one and four with two

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Speaker 1: All right, So, as Simon alluded to, I will recap

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Speaker 1: everything that happened, because it's been a scary day. We

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Speaker 1: have Chicago plus seven and a half. Seemed like with

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Speaker 1: going to cover seven and a half. Didn't necessarily play

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Speaker 1: out that way. We had Miami minus thirteen and a half,

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Speaker 1: probably one of the most frustrating games we've had in

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Speaker 1: a long time, because if you look at the details

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Speaker 1: of that game, Miami should have won by seventy five.

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Speaker 1: We had Pittsburgh plus two and a half, another one,

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Speaker 1: super frustrating to lose that game by three when you

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Speaker 1: had the ball with less than two minutes left and

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Speaker 1: a chance to go down the field and kick a

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Speaker 1: game when you field goal. Carolina plus ten and a

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Speaker 1: half never really in it. So we still have Denver

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Speaker 1: minus two and a half. I shouldn't say we were

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Speaker 1: and three. So we're one and three right now. The

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Speaker 1: only game. And it's interesting, you say, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got to learn our lesson. I think the only game

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Speaker 1: we claim close to consideration was Arizona. But in my

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Speaker 1: game we would have taken out for it was the Bears,

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Speaker 1: which was our only win. So was there another game

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Speaker 1: that you that you're thinking we should have put in

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Speaker 2: The only one was Pittsburgh, just because we both played

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Speaker 2: it at four and I was like, yeah, trying not then.

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Speaker 2: be a big deal and they were gonna win that game.

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Speaker 2: But now it, like you said, though, felt good for

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Speaker 2: a second there, like we got the ball back, You're like,

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Speaker 2: You said it. He went three and out and Brown's

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Speaker 2: He did what we were hoping was gonna happen with Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go the game by game here, let's

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the box score, what that

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Speaker 1: Bears were up twenty six to fourteen with four minutes

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Speaker 1: seventeen points in the last four minutes and thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the last twenty nine

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Speaker 2: You can I was just gonna say, you can't, even

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Speaker 2: if I want to fault the defense at the end there,

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Speaker 2: you can't really right, It's you played a full game.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the Lions turned into a track

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Speaker 2: meet in the final five minutes. They were gassed like that.

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Speaker 2: Browns fans should be happy, though, Like again, me and

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Speaker 2: you were upset because we had them in our money

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Speaker 2: line around Robin I had a lot of bets tied

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Speaker 2: to the Bear's money line. But Bears fan should be

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Speaker 2: happy in the sense that Justin Fields in that game

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Speaker 2: had hurt his hand was like bleeding from his hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the dude came and make a game chat game without

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Speaker 2: getting injury. So that's nice. You already know who cares

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Speaker 2: how well he plays. You got to move on after

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Speaker 2: this season. And the thing that really pissed me off

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Speaker 2: he did that game was it was third and nine

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Speaker 2: or thirty eight at the end of the game. All

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Speaker 2: you needed was a first down, the game was over,

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Speaker 2: and he threw a bomb. Yeah, and it's like, who

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Speaker 2: do you think you are justin to take that kind

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Speaker 2: of shot, Like at least get seven yards or six

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Speaker 2: one and make make the coach make a decision. Don't

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Speaker 2: take a stupid bomb that's like less than a fifty

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Speaker 2: percent chance even connecting that. That really bummed me out,

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Speaker 2: especially because, like we just said, like I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we didn't win that money line bet. It was just there.

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Speaker 2: They had all the turnovers. You said, the defense played well,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, talk about the funnel twenty seconds, which is

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Speaker 2: just madness.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're also right about that. Or even in

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Speaker 1: that last play, you know they had a chance to

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Speaker 1: they had gained four yards, You're then going to either

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Speaker 1: the Lions to use a timeout and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, they don't have any other timeouts on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the two minute warning. Like, it's just

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Speaker 1: bad play calling, bad decision making, bad clock management, all

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Speaker 1: of it things that good teams don't make, the mistakes

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Speaker 1: doing with the Rams just did right, Like they methodically

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Speaker 1: leave as little time as possible. They got lucky used

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Speaker 1: the field goal, but it wasn't because the Rams made

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Speaker 2: But like I'm saying, though, they put themselves in that

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Speaker 2: position to win, and that's what the Bears just simply

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Speaker 1: They didn't do it. So last twenty nine seconds, the

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Speaker 1: Bears have the ball. They had called all their timeouts

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Speaker 1: to preserve time before the Lions scored a touchdown. They

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Speaker 1: have the ball deep in their end zone. I wrote

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Speaker 1: in my notes. I texted my buddies, this is when

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Speaker 1: we can bet that the Bears will not cover this

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Speaker 1: game because there will be some kind of cattish fropic

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields holds the ball for too long play.

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Speaker 2: It was horrible.

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, Bears are down twenty nine to twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson rushes the passer stripsack. He's going to catch

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Speaker 1: the ball. He's going to fund land on the ball

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Speaker 1: in the end zone. If not for a Bears lineman

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Speaker 1: inadvertently kicking it out of the back of the end zone. True,

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Speaker 1: here heres lose, True hero. The Bears lose thirty one

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Speaker 1: to twenty six by accident.

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Speaker 2: No, just an awful, awful experience. But god did we

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Speaker 2: need that one? I meanez if we were sitting here

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Speaker 2: own four woo so man, Thank god again we got

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Speaker 2: unlucky the other games. But that that spy right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell you any times I've lost

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Speaker 2: taken ugly dogs on a number in the final two

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Speaker 2: minutes of a game like that, where it's like they're

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Speaker 2: all double digits, like you said, four minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: and now we might not cover a seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy, crazy, crazy sweat. But again, we love gambling.

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Speaker 2: That was that was true fun roller coaster ride.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was just excruciating, almost as excruciating as Miami,

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Speaker 1: which is the game we'll talk about last. But one

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Speaker 1: more thing I want to say is Evan has this

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Speaker 1: great stat when Bears opponents, no no teams that led

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Speaker 1: by ten or more at any point an end to

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Speaker 1: game with a plus three or better turnover margin three

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Speaker 1: hundred sixty three and eight straight up the last decade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bears are in are in a member of that very

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Speaker 1: small minority right now. Jeez, that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: That's fireable. That's fireable. As a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, the whole staff is done after this year,

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Speaker 1: right like it's a it's a truly terrible performance.

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Speaker 2: I guess you gotta let it. Like you just say, y'all,

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Speaker 2: let him keep going because he's incredible at tanking. And

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Speaker 2: if you get the quarterback Marvin Harris Junior out of

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Speaker 2: this whole existence, you nailed it.

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Speaker 1: I have a new rule that I think should be

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Speaker 1: implemented in the NFL, and I thought of it all

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Speaker 1: watching the Bears. Let the lines drive down the field

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first half to kick a

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Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, the intentional field goal. If the other

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Speaker 1: play a soft zone defense and just let them gain

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Speaker 1: yardage and stay in front of you and get in

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Speaker 1: a field goal range for whatever reason, you can offer

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Speaker 1: the automatic field goal from wherever the team wants to

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Speaker 1: take it, and then you get the ball back with

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time left because you're clearly not

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Speaker 1: caring about giving up the points, So just give them

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Speaker 1: the field goal and try to get the ball back

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Speaker 1: before half is over so you can score, and then

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Speaker 1: the team can decide, Okay, we don't want the field goal.

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Speaker 1: We want to keep playing, and then it's your opportunity

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Speaker 1: to stop them. But the Bears, the way they play,

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Speaker 1: should just offer the intentional field goal. It's like an

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Speaker 1: intentional walk.

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Speaker 2: Goddamn millennials trying to change my sport. Keep it to yourself, Chad, if.

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Speaker 1: Wishing made it so that I was a millennial, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the other the other game, Pittsburgh at Cleveland, Like

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Speaker 1: was tough one. We had. We had Pittsburgh plus four

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Speaker 2: about a minute. That's a train wreck. The Titans was

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Speaker 2: that's just like you said, we live and die with it.

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Speaker 2: But as you like to say, you gave it out

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Speaker 2: listened to the show bet at Sunday night, bet at Monday,

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I won pennies because I had a

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Speaker 2: I got slaughtered on that Pittsburgh game. That's tough. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have played forty five consecutive games without reaching

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Speaker 1: It's great as a better It's really it's great as

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Speaker 2: But all it says to me is, I'm not the

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Speaker 2: just gave leaks into Roethlisberger, like that's how bad Roethlisberger

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Speaker 2: That was right there, that Pittsburgh when was right there,

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Speaker 1: For US Dallas at Carolina. Carolina was ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: We love this All week, we were confident about this one.

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Speaker 2: First half, Carolina's terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're only down seven, they're.

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Speaker 2: I know? And that's that's what stinks, is like when

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Speaker 2: And that's clearly what happened there in Carolina because you

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Speaker 2: Like you have to have such an edge mentally to

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we're you're subscribing to my theory now from

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Speaker 1: because I thought it was interesting that Will Levis would

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Speaker 1: And that was the game. That was the entire game.

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden it was seven. It was, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, we're back to seven. All we need is

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. Now we're gonna get that touchdown. And I

435
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Speaker 2: didn't think it was gonna be from Tua because I'm

436
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Speaker 2: with you. I thought too. It just looked bad all game,

437
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Speaker 2: just missing easy throws, wasn't an accurate like he usually

438
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Speaker 2: is the defense where I thought we're gonna get it.

439
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: I was like, he's gonna throw us another one and

440
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: we'll get that pick six. So yeah, another game. I

441
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: lost way too much money on just a bad bet.

442
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Miami, I'll do it again. Like you guys

443
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Speaker 2: are having to get used to this because Miami is

444
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Speaker 2: giving the spot for the next five years, Like we're

445
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Speaker 2: gonna have this Tua combo at home where it's like

446
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Speaker 2: they do just play better at home, like their offense

447
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: plays better at home. And even though they played bad

448
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Speaker 2: in that game, like Tragic said, we were never out

449
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Speaker 2: of it, Like that's one of those games where like

450
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Speaker 2: you're always in it. So as painful as this is,

451
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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's a bad read, we're probably gonna keep making.

452
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Speaker 2: It's just they're just a different team. At home than

453
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Speaker 2: they are on the So it's just something to keep

454
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Speaker 2: them on where you're gonna either be buying or selling

455
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: this team at home as a big number like they

456
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Speaker 2: are today. And yeah to us, to a burned us,

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Speaker 2: he just had a really bad game as a big favorite.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is I'm pretty sure I also

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Speaker 1: wrote down Miami for next week because they might be

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Speaker 1: in the same position. I can't I can't be the

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Speaker 1: schedule quick enough right now. But yeah, just a brutal,

462
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Speaker 1: brutal beat. We totally should have had that. By the way, Simon,

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Speaker 1: two weeks from tonight, you and I will be doing

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Speaker 1: thirty Hoboken, New Jersey. All right, let's see, we had

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Speaker 1: Arizona plus five. It was the Foxhole. I guess we

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Speaker 1: pushed there. I mean, you were on that all week,

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Speaker 1: so people should have been listening because even a week

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Speaker 1: ago Sunday you were on it. I think at five

483
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Speaker 1: and a half we were hoping it would get the

484
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Speaker 1: six didn't get there. Uncharacteristic interceptions from CJ. Stroud, who

485
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Speaker 1: was brilliant in the first probably would have covered that game.

486
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Speaker 1: He threw a pick with about two and a half

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Speaker 1: minutes left when they were in field goal range. So

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Speaker 1: how'd you feel with that game going on?

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Speaker 2: It was fun, but yeah, it was a sweat. It's

490
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Speaker 2: CJ is scary as hell. It's not fun bend against him.

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Speaker 2: But I'm stubborn and I think he's now. Owen four

492
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Speaker 2: is a favorite, Evan, Is that right? Cjda Owen four

493
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Speaker 2: is a favorite this season, so obviously it's a trend.

494
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Speaker 2: I mean the number got too big. I thought I

495
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Speaker 2: had gotten too big. The books are so sharp, I

496
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Speaker 2: couldn't believe. In Atlanta on five, it was like, what

497
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Speaker 2: a wacky number. Yes, it really is. So we talked

498
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Speaker 2: all the time though, it's the way the NFL is now.

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Speaker 2: Team's going for two, Carolina went for two. They didn't

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Speaker 2: get it lance five. It's just it's crazy how important

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Speaker 2: two and a half and five have become in the

502
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Speaker 2: last four or five years. So yeah, like, like you said,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it matter? Like we we we didn't even talk

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Speaker 2: about taking Pittsburgh. The only team we talked about was

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Speaker 2: the Bears. But yeah, just just just a nice cover

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Speaker 2: by Kyler and he continues to be the kind of

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Speaker 2: guy that he's got. You flashes a ton of talent

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Speaker 2: and then he can do nothing for in half. It's

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Speaker 2: just how Kyler is. He's got one of the highest

510
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Speaker 2: athletic abilities I've ever seen, but inconsistent as a thrower.

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Speaker 2: But they've done him no favors, right, Arizona is so

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Speaker 2: bare bones? What do you want to dote? Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: getting rid of Hopkins doesn't make sense. Why they made

514
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Speaker 2: that move? You saw today, he didn't have somebody he

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Speaker 2: could trust and go to on third downs. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: impressive color by and cover by the Cardinals because you

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Speaker 2: said it, they had they needed all these turnovers in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. I mean at the end there they're

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Speaker 2: gonna use to kick a field goal Houston, they got

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Speaker 2: to pick on CJ. So you're right, like this, this

521
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Speaker 2: is a bad aid game for him. Still put up

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Speaker 2: over two fifty in the first half passing yards and

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Speaker 2: put up twenty one points. Like the kid. It's incredible

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Speaker 2: how nflready he is.

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Speaker 1: He took a hit, was out for a play, came back.

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Speaker 1: You would have thought it was going to be a

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Speaker 1: quick throw, scrambled through a laser on third and seventeen

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Speaker 1: to take down for a first down. Like he just

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Speaker 1: got it. He's just got it. He's totally got it.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned two and a half as as becoming a

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Speaker 1: key number, which is interesting because we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that in a second with Sunday Night Football and

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. But reminder, Foxhole Arizona plus five, Simon says,

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Speaker 1: Miami plus twelve or minus twelve. Exact decision was Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: plus four. Big balls was Carolina plus ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: Survivor was Jacksonville, so we won there. Round robin. A

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Speaker 1: tough day, tough day, Arizona, Carolina, Philly is still to

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Speaker 1: play pitt Chicago. All right, our lean for Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: H we need Denver for our lungs, as Bob Scooci

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Speaker 1: likes to say, we need Denver minus two and a

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Speaker 1: half four ur lungs. This is the difference between two

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Speaker 1: and three or one and four for the first time

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Speaker 1: all season.

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Speaker 2: What's the deal though, we dropped two no matter what

545
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Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so right now I think we absolutely don't care.

547
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I care because I want to win money.

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Speaker 2: But I think our worst week this year is two

549
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Speaker 2: and three.

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Speaker 1: I think we have two two and three weeks.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that'd be nice to get two and

552
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: three obviously, like I want to win money, but yeah,

553
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: if that if the Bears had lost, you would see

554
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: me dying here right now if that hadn't covered. Like

555
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: I just I really needed that one. So yeah, still

556
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Speaker 2: feel the same, feeling good about Denver, like the number,

557
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: like their defense in this spot against Dobbs have zero

558
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: confidence right now after today. I just did so bad

559
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: today betting wise got no confidence, but still believe it's

560
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: still even Denver. I think it's a good spot. So yeah,

561
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: hopefully it comes through for us. I know a couple

562
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: of books went up to three then move back to

563
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: two and a half. It just seems like everyone's split

564
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: on this. People just beat both sides on this one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's depending on the number right now. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it and convinced me this

567
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Speaker 1: morning where you and you were on Denver raybounds, what

568
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: was on uh Minnesota. Yeah, And I just didn't like

569
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Speaker 1: the number three. There's no edge there for me. So

570
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Speaker 1: I passed on that and took Sean Cerner Harrison Smith

571
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: under six and a half tackles a pretty big juice.

572
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: I just went pretty five instead. It's not agous, that's

573
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Speaker 1: not courageous, that's not cowardly. That's courageous because I want

574
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Speaker 1: to put money in my pocket Monday night football. The

575
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: number has bounced. Two and a half three, two and

576
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Speaker 1: a half three. We liked Philly from the beginning at

577
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Speaker 1: this time last week. I'm still a little nervous about.

578
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Speaker 2: It though, Yeah, still nervous about it. Was gonna was

579
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Speaker 2: gonna make this my convinced me pick. But I've been

580
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Speaker 2: straight mush, I'm convinced me. So I stayed away as

581
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Speaker 2: a fan of my Eagles team. I was like, I

582
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Speaker 2: can't put my stink on this number. Almost pitched them

583
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Speaker 2: to you this morning because it was three and a

584
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: half at night when I checked, but it was back

585
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: to two and a half, so I didn't even bring

586
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: it up because we both said it. It's like we're

587
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: either taking the three or just not taking this game

588
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Speaker 2: with the Eagles. And that's what I did this week.

589
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we get off this call, maybe I'll put

590
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: another bet in and push this into my top five

591
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: biggest bets, you know, by kickoff tomorrow. If this gets

592
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: to three, this could end up being one of my

593
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: bigger bets, like into my top five. But I've been

594
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: pretty good just staying away from this one just because

595
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: I am scared of my homes. I'm just I'm scared

596
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: of the guy. But matchup wise, is a great match

597
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Speaker 2: for the Eagles. The Chiefs their offense now goes through

598
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Speaker 2: the run. That's basically everything they do is based off

599
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: the run. They're passing, schemes, everything, So the Eagles Number

600
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: one strength is run. Defense, Jurgens is back. It's a

601
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Speaker 2: guard that plays for the Eagles, which is like, it

602
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Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a big deal, but the difference between

603
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: him and the backup is like fifty yards per game

604
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: rushing for the Eagles offense. He's just a key to

605
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: that running block scheme that the Eagles do. So yeah,

606
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Speaker 2: I'm confident Eagles. In the Eagles chat at the three

607
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: at two and a half, we gave you all the

608
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: stats about Mahomes. I can't follow you if you're taking

609
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: homes at two and a half, but yeah, yeah, we're

610
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Speaker 2: still in the three.

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Speaker 1: In Week twelve, there's three Thanksgiving games, there's one Black

635
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Speaker 1: Friday game. All four of those are division games. Begging

636
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: us to take the underdogs. We saw it again this week, right,

637
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: saw it with the Bears. We saw it with the Giants,

638
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, the road teams, the underdogs. We saw it

639
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Speaker 1: with the Rams, who were underdogs at one point. I'm

640
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: counting them here, like that's decide you want to take.

641
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: We got green Bay plus seven and a half at

642
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Detroit Washington plus ten and a half at Dallas. San

643
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Francisco is four and a half on the road at Seattle.

644
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Speaker 2: You want the updated lines, These.

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Speaker 1: Are the lines I saw right before I came on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Do you have different lines already? Moving? Baby? Seahawks are

648
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: now plus six against the forty nine Ers. That's a

649
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: moving Commanders up till plus eleven against the Cowboys and

650
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: the Packers. God, Packers are still seven and a half.

651
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: What about Miami at the New York Jets.

652
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Speaker 2: It's minus seven and a half Miami.

653
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Speaker 1: Wow.

654
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, one he's coming in fast. I mean again,

655
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Speaker 2: you're gonna blink. These games are gonna be here. Are

656
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: we doing? What are we doing? I have no I

657
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: have no life. I have no family, so I can

658
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Speaker 2: work Thursday. Are we off Thursday? Well, like you and

659
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Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell have a normal life.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, we are We are not. We don't have

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Speaker 1: a show on Thursday. You just have Tuesday, right, Yeah,

662
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Speaker 1: we'll tell people that on too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we'll have more. We'll do obviously, way more about

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Speaker 2: these four Tuesday. But first glance, I'm with Chad like,

665
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: that's crazy amount of movement. I want to be I

666
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: look like every dog, except I can't believe I'm about

667
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: to say this kind of like uh, kind of like

668
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, but that's it's probably moved too much.

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Speaker 2: This is it's probably moved too much. Now, well, look,

670
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Speaker 2: you're probably the value is probably on Seattle, right.

671
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Speaker 1: Well, they probably moved off of Gino Smith right like

672
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Speaker 1: he came back in, but we don't really know.

673
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I didn't even think of that. So

674
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a little

675
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: bet on it right now because Chad's right, Uh, Drew

676
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Locke might be the guy for the Seahawks, so again,

677
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: this beck could change. I'm just gonna bet this now

678
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: because the six is still available to a couple of books.

679
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: A couple of books are shown actually lower numbers, so

680
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: shop around. I'm just I'm just talking bet three sixty

681
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: five on here. But yeah, that's a good point. I

682
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: didn't I forgot. You know, Gino was a little banged

683
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: up in that game. So yeah, I'm gonna take a

684
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: little taste here on the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: So two games that I looked at outside of Thursday

686
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: and Friday, and if you feel strongly like if you're

687
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Speaker 1: going to bet anything from Thursday and Friday. Speak now,

688
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: the most interesting game to me is green Bay plus

689
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: seven and a half of Detroit.

690
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, your bet. You're betting on back to back bad

691
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: golf games. That's that's what this bet is because without

692
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: the golf giving the turnovers to the Bears, the Bears

693
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: will never be in that game. Their offense indoors the

694
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: Lions is unbelievable. They're just so high powered. They wear

695
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: you out of the two running back system, and they

696
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: have a great rookie tight end and I mean, I'm

697
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: on Saint Brown just feels like he's always going to

698
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: get open. So yes, as you said here right now,

699
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: my instincts is a joint Chad after green Bay just

700
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: won a big game at home. But this is probably

701
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: the time to fade them and take a Chalky pick

702
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: here in Detroit on a noon game. But I don't

703
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: want to do it because Chad will give you the

704
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: stat like these divisional games late in the season like this,

705
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: you usually want to take the dog. So it's a

706
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: tough number for me to play right now.

707
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: It's why we know Dallas, we know Washington is the

708
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: right side as a double digit dog on the road

709
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: at Dallas divisional games. You've heard us recite the stats

710
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: all season, and we'll recite them again on Tuesday, Like

711
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: this is the spot when you take the dog. It's

712
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: like we did with the Bears, It's like people did

713
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Speaker 1: with the Giants. But the problem is in this spot

714
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: is when Dak dominates bad teams as a big favorite

715
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: at home. He is a front runner, folks, and when

716
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: they're playing a bad team, he tends to cover well.

717
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: Evan might, Evan might have Dak's Thanksgiving stats, but I

718
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: feel like I've made good money Chad Ben against Dak

719
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, Like, Okay, I have a vivid memory of

720
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: me betting the Raiders and the Raiders were dead, and

721
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: I think I won outright. What was it last year

722
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: we ticked, we took the Giants and we had some

723
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: stupid back door by the Giants, or maybe it was

724
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and we held it. But I just remember,

725
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: there's always these games are always a little weird. Here

726
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: we go, Dak. Thank you, Evan, You're the man, even

727
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: even when Evans in Vegas still giving us good stats.

728
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott on Thanksgiving three and three straight up not

729
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: terrible he is one in five ats, one in five

730
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: first half ats. His one in five ATS mark on

731
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is the worst of any quarterback since nineteen ninety.

732
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: So there's your answer. Like I feel like I just

733
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: it's one of my brain notes is just to fade

734
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Dack no matter the number on Thanksgiving. Wow, you can

735
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: ride the trend with those people, but this is this

736
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: is something you just have to play every year kind of.

737
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: So it's very possible we might want to wait because

738
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: there's so much hype on Dallas and Washington just had

739
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: a bad loss. This number could go up.

740
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: That's true now, and we saw Sam hal got a

741
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: little banged up in that game. So Jad's right. We

742
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: went to wait and see before you take this number.

743
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: That's fair.

744
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: Two games on Sunday that I wrote down, Yeah, Las

745
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Vegas plus ten at home against Kansas City feels like

746
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: in early bet we gotta go in Las Vegas.

747
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: The pros are with the attready down to nine and

748
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: a half.

749
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Good lord, if I could get it while I'm on

750
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: this show, I would another game Angelus Chargers plus four

751
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: and a half hosting Baltimore.

752
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: Oh god, you.

753
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Know it's the right side. It's one hundred percent the

754
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: right side.

755
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it definitely is.

756
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I just actually wonder will it go up. The Chargers

757
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: are tragic.

758
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: I hate the Charger experience. It's horrible.

759
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: It's they are so tragic. Brandon Staley is just out

760
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: of his depth. And we saw it again today, like

761
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: they had a chance to win that game. We talked

762
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: about it and I convinced me today, like you talked

763
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: about the first half. Bet right, So the game ends

764
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: up tied at the end of the first half, so

765
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers don't cover. But in the second half when

766
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: it's time to make adjustments and become a better team.

767
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Even though the Chargers have all the talent, the Packers

768
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: win the game because they make better plays. And some

769
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: of the players that are making they were the same

770
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: plays over and over against the defense that Brandon Staley

771
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: is calling. Like he was getting receivers open in one

772
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: on one situations behind the defense and Jordan Love was

773
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: hitting those guys. That was it. Like, Brandon Staley is

774
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: the reason this team stinks, a team with so much talent.

775
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: It's bad.

776
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Right now, this number's gonna go This number is gonna

777
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: go up. I wouldn't bet it yet.

778
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there with you, like I got no read

779
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: on it, just because the pro mean wants to take

780
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: the Chargers. But it's hard to say that the Ravens

781
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: are overvalued or anything on the spot when they've just

782
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: been such a better team this season, like they're they're way.

783
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: They're much more consistent than the Chargers have been defensively

784
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: and offensively. So yeah, I'm with you, Chad. That definite

785
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: jumps out. I wouldn't touch it yet.

786
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Have you made any bets yet?

787
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, people, I gotta do it. Pittsburgh's a dog

788
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: right now going to Cincinnati. They're plus one playing against

789
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's backup. I like Pittsburgh. That's that's a that's a

790
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: that's a nice number. Get them as a dog right now.

791
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: They're plus plus one, plus one and a half. I

792
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: grabbed that number right when it opened. Another one. I

793
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm finally doing it, jumping on the Giants bandwagon.

794
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh plus plus thirty five, I mean plus three and

795
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: a half against New England at home. It's gross. I'm

796
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: totally with you, people, like I get where you're coming from.

797
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: I just I could see this number getting a three

798
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: two and a half I just are the professionals really

799
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: going to keep backing dak as a favorite? I don't know.

800
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, So I'm gonna pay and see I'm

801
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: gonna grab the three and a half now, just because

802
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: I at least have some faith in this in this

803
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: Giants team, like the kid Divito finally grew Anny Divito.

804
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: Touchdown Tony TV stands for touch down.

805
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: Put the ball downfield, and that's what I want from

806
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: a quarterback. It's like, I don't care if you're completing it.

807
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: At least push the ball downfield and showing me that

808
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: you have some type of confidence. And he completed it

809
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: this week, so it might be able to burn us

810
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: next week. But it's three and a half against Max Shones.

811
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: I mean, who the hell is Max Jones. We catch

812
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: a three and a half against anyone, So I'll take

813
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: that number.

814
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: On the road against. By the way, Teithon Thibodeau is

815
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: coming on the last four weeks. He has been a

816
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: force on the defensive line. So the games we're talking

817
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: about right now.

818
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Just gross, just gross.

819
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: It's gross. Pittsburgh plus one, Las Vegas plus ten if

820
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: you find it somewhere, Giants plus three and a half.

821
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