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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch,

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Speaker 1: hosted by Meat Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Boone,

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Speaker 1: and my real life daughter Emerson Tenny.

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Speaker 2: So this is episode three, Pretty Little Picture, aired October seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and.

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Speaker 3: Four, another Sondhime lyric. Yes, pretty Little Picture comes from

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Speaker 3: a funny thing happened on the way to the forum.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that? Were you in it?

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Speaker 4: I did see it.

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Speaker 5: I grew up listening to the album and it's great.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I've been trying to unpack what I

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Speaker 5: think the reference. I was going to say, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: you stumped me a little bit. I mean yeah, it

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Speaker 5: stumped me a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit with the reference in terms of the reference to

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Speaker 3: Sonhime or what. I totally figured this give it to Well,

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Speaker 3: it's all about appearances, this idea of what are the

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Speaker 3: appearances we keep up?

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Speaker 6: And Pretty Little Picture, you know, wants this writer.

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Speaker 2: She was able to unpack that with probably zero.

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Speaker 6: The rest of the episodes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what struck me, and my takeaway about a different

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Speaker 2: version of keeping up with the appearances is like something

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Speaker 2: that Mary Alice says, which is to live in fear

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Speaker 2: is to not live at all. And I think of

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Speaker 2: myself as a person who has always faces their fears,

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Speaker 2: like I'm not a runner from my fears, and I

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Speaker 2: also don't try to pretend like they don't exist.

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Speaker 6: You're definitely not an avoidant personality.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so I mean, I mean you obviously you

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Speaker 2: you know me so well because I burst you out.

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Speaker 6: Of my body.

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Speaker 2: What can you think of an example of me, not

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Speaker 2: of me facing my fears.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, this is something I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: This is the first thing that's coming to my head.

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Speaker 3: But this woman, my wonderful mother, loves to throw herself

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Speaker 3: into any body of water. And oftentimes it's not just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we're in the tropical location, this is like a relaxing

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Speaker 3: body of water. It's like we're in the middle of

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Speaker 3: Africa and it's night and there's this crazy lake and

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Speaker 3: she's afraid there might be snakes in it, and she

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Speaker 3: she goes. It's it's kind of like a manufactured facing

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Speaker 3: of fear, not manufactured, but.

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Speaker 4: It's not like she's prepared.

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Speaker 3: She's not in a bathing Then she likes to she

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Speaker 3: likes to seek out scary bodies of water and then

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Speaker 3: face her fear and go into them.

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Speaker 2: Jumping off high things. But this was you remember, this

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Speaker 2: was when we've been to Africa twice and we took

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Speaker 2: my her grandparents on this one trip and my dad

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Speaker 2: literally said, I will pay you money to not get

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Speaker 2: in that body of like I'm on this ship.

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Speaker 6: Little show called Desperate.

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Speaker 3: That counted, But you didn't stop you. You went in

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Speaker 3: and she kept her socks on. She said she was

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Speaker 3: that was the kind of barrier.

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Speaker 2: Cart was, Yeah, it was. But I also, you know,

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Speaker 2: I once went to like a survival camp sort of

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Speaker 2: situation where you know, you have to build shelters and

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Speaker 2: learn navigation and kayak for miles and eat crickets and

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Speaker 2: squirrels and whatever again crazy and people said like, why

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Speaker 2: why are you doing that?

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Speaker 6: Is it for TV?

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Speaker 2: And I say, no, it's because I like to put

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Speaker 2: myself in these uncomfortable position positions and see if I

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Speaker 2: can survive.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel like you learn on the other

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Speaker 3: side of that. I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, and I'm sure it is going to lead

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Speaker 2: us back to the characters and Desperate Housewives. You know,

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Speaker 2: what are they learning? I feel like maybe I'm learning

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Speaker 2: that I can do hard things. Maybe I'm checking off

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Speaker 2: I'm taking my hands. I'm like, you know, grabbing like

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Speaker 2: And and so maybe that's why, Yeah, maybe that's why.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 5: My understanding of fearlessness in general has shifted over the

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Speaker 5: past few years. And I used to interpret it as

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Speaker 5: being someone who's not afraid versus someone like you who

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Speaker 5: doing the thing. And since I retrained my brain to

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Speaker 5: understand what I think fearlessness is, I have become a

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Speaker 5: lot more fearless.

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Speaker 4: I love them, and that feels good.

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Speaker 6: I love that so much.

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Speaker 2: But so I love this episode.

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Speaker 6: I love this episode.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love this episode so much.

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Speaker 6: I cannot wait to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: There were so many iconic moments. I mean, potentially one

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Speaker 3: of your most iconic moments, one.

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Speaker 5: Of the serious most I would say iconic moments. I

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Speaker 5: didn't realize it happened so early on, I.

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Speaker 2: Know remembered that it had. Well, Okay, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that later in the store. Okay, we'll get to that. Well.

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Speaker 3: We start off with Mary Alice obviously narrating again from

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Speaker 3: the other side or beyond the grave, and I love

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Speaker 3: that she says she talks about in the eternity it's

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Speaker 3: best to travel light. Me too, and actually thinking about

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Speaker 3: our travels, I immediately thought of you, mom, and.

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Speaker 2: Now you're yeah. And she literally can shove two weeks

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Speaker 2: of going to Paris in a tiny.

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Speaker 4: I'm a carry on.

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Speaker 2: Persons insane and it's almost like a clown car. Like

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Speaker 2: she just has like fabulously like whatever whatever outfit that's

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Speaker 6: The suitcase's like where is it all covered?

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Speaker 5: It's such a skill, though, and once you get once

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Speaker 5: you're like, I'm a carry on person lifestyle, it's very hard.

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Speaker 4: To check a bag.

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Speaker 2: Ever again, I'm I'm getting better. The last two you

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Speaker 2: are actually are gone on. I haven't packed, like and

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Speaker 2: it's because I went to went through one too many

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Speaker 2: experiences of losing my luggage.

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Speaker 3: Like having it And I have to say, I do

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Speaker 3: about what's in there, even if I've been like hiking

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Speaker 2: You know? Do you have one trick of how to

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Actually I do.

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Speaker 3: The one trick is if you can just bring one

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Speaker 5: But that's the rule for me, is that like you

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Speaker 2: Wear plane and bring one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you could wear you know, you could wear

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Speaker 2: Well, I am going back to uh Mary Alice and

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Speaker 2: it really is. I totally am fun and it's and

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the use of color when you come into

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Speaker 5: And asked in that early flashback where you, you know,

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Speaker 4: You guys are all at the table together.

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Speaker 5: I was so struck by the presence of Mary Alice

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Speaker 4: Did this happen? And why did she do that? It

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Speaker 3: And also the idea that you would plan a dinner,

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Speaker 6: Can tell me?

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Speaker 2: So? On the newspaper that Susan is reading, yes, it

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Speaker 2: says it's the fifteenth and that and and the line

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Speaker 2: dinner is going to be on the sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: But do you think it reminds her that dinner's the

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Speaker 3: fat Well, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make no I think it all takes place

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Speaker 2: on the same day. But maybe it doesn't. Maybe you're right,

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Speaker 5: But I also like maybe a good detective Terry. But

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Speaker 5: I also like that we're clearly in real time, like

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Speaker 5: the newspaper says October fifteenth, two thousand and four, and

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Speaker 5: this episode aired October seventeenth, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, whoa. I love that I did not

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Speaker 6: pick that up at Allah. In terms of.

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Speaker 3: Things that were missing, Yes, which I noticed after this flashback,

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Speaker 3: after we realized that she set the state for dinner

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Speaker 3: and then died. And it's you know, who would think

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Speaker 3: to set a dinner if you had plans to die?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Where did Lynette's baby go?

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Speaker 4: I know, where is the baby?

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Speaker 3: Where is does the baby? I haven't watched the show.

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Speaker 3: Does the baby come back?

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess we're not that.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm worried about where is this baby?

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Speaker 2: The baby takes a lot of now, baby.

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Speaker 4: Takes the back. Someone did put baby in a corner.

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Speaker 2: We sort of skipped over the iconic Brie ruining the

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Speaker 2: I really am. I'm empathizing, and I'm loving the dynamic

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Speaker 2: of this marriage. That's falling apart, and the therapy scenes,

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Speaker 2: and uh, the way both of these actors are are

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Speaker 2: performing this, I just I'm I just love it. I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't. I also felt, did you guys feel this

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Speaker 2: was the first episode that the men the husband's really

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Speaker 2: No, I definitely had one where you would get up

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Speaker 2: That's how I made money when I was like, for you,

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Speaker 6: And then yeah, you have Susan.

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00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: Well, you have Susan who gets confronted with the girlfriend

446
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: and what did you think of that can kicking moment?

447
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 6: Well, I what do you also think?

448
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: Because like your mom, yes, okay, when your dad started dating,

449
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: somebody did I I mean, I'm sure I did.

450
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 6: I don't know.

451
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 2: It's very hard to be the the the ex and

452
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: it was hard for me to watch that. I mean,

453
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: in hindsight, I'm so happy your dad is happy, and

454
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm and they're happy and it's great, but it is

455
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: everybody moves on at different paces. And you know, in

456
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: the story of Desperate Housewives, I think Susan had been divorced.

457
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 6: A year, which feels like a short amount, which.

458
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Feels kind of like a short time. But I think

459
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: that first moment when you start getting introduced to the

460
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: new girlfriend or the new wife, you know, people don't

461
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: talk about this enough. And I am willing if our

462
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: viewers are interested in like they want, they want to

463
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: hear more about this. I think it's an incredibly vulnerable

464
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: tightrope balancing act whatever, especially when there's a child involved,

465
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: where you're giving up control that maybe you don't want

466
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: to give up. And also somebody that you have no

467
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: investment in is now introduced in such a large way

468
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: to your life. It is a very tricky thing which

469
00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: leads to petulant behavior or can, and that's Susan's case.

470
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: It certainly did. And what was your takeaway? Was she

471
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 6: an asshole or not?

472
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I I feel lucky that you never kicked

473
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 3: any hands around, that's what you think, at least not directly.

474
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: And also we never did custody day switches in front

475
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: of the house, so maybe the opportunity just didn't really

476
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: present itself. I feel like I was dropped off at

477
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: school and then picked up after school, but with Susan

478
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: and Brandy, and for Brandy when she finally tries to

479
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: talk to Susan, mispronounces her last night to.

480
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: Have a counter like you need to have a Meyer

481
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: being pronounced wrong, I think we're at meer Mayor.

482
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: I think I think Edy pronounced it wrong. Yeah in

483
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 2: another episode.

484
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I mean a public opinion might decide

485
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 6: it's mayor.

486
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I about the two people who are in the family.

487
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: I really do think people people I think mayor would

488
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: be the vote.

489
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: So I guess it's okay.

490
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to stick to my are just out of respect,

491
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: which is something that feels like Susan is certainly not given.

492
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: In this scene when Brandy throws her soda can.

493
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 6: And I feel Brandy comes off.

494
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: Which I think is intentional. So much younger, yeah than Susan.

495
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: I mean, she almost feels like a teenager level of behavior.

496
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: And it's so catty because in you know, if you're

497
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: going to think about it in these terms, she's one.

498
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: You know, She's Carl Ray are together. Why are you

499
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: now throwing your trash at the woman that Carl left

500
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: to be with you? So I and it's not just

501
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: because you're my mom. I think I side with Susan

502
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: in this moment when she doesn't, you know, I don't

503
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: want her to pick up the can. That feels wrong.

504
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the kind of person that definitely

505
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: if someone I've seen people on the freeway, you know,

506
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: throw a soda can or something out the window, and

507
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 3: I think you if you did that, you should, well, one,

508
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: you should get a giant ticket for a little on

509
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: the freeway, but you should. You know, if you're on it,

510
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: you should pull over and you should go and you

511
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: should get it.

512
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: Not on the freeway, but you know that there's only

513
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: two things you could throw out of your without getting arrested.

514
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: Or water.

515
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 6: Water not ice.

516
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: It's feathers, feathers and water.

517
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: And it's because chicken truck crazy. No chicken trucks that

518
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: transport chickens would have so many feathers flying off.

519
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: Yet, but that it couldn't be That sounds great, but.

520
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 6: I know I do.

521
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: I love this moment because I feel for Susan. I

522
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: feel like we empathize with her, and then she takes

523
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: it a little too far.

524
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: Maybe they both put the moment where he says the

525
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 5: checks and the mail and then you're standing by the

526
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 5: mailbox and you look in the mail and you say.

527
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: No, he's not so good, so good, and then she

528
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: of course, then she gets caught by Mike.

529
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 6: And I think that is a genious button to that

530
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 6: scene that we.

531
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: Embarrassment and she says later, you know, I feel so

532
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: stupid that I acted like that, and I don't act

533
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: like that around anybody, but Carl. You know, have you

534
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: guys ever do you have that does that feel familiar

535
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: to you that there's one person that can really push

536
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: your button?

537
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 5: There are people in my life that push my buttons,

538
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 5: and you know, it's like they just have the key,

539
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: whatever the key is to that part of me that

540
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 5: they get sadly or gets you know, gets under my skin.

541
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, see, I've removed most of those people. That's

542
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: just aging, is that you know that they get they

543
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: go by the wayside sooner.

544
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: Or later or just we're still here.

545
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 4: We've made the cut.

546
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, thank goodness.

547
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, I also just because we're I think right

548
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: after that scene we get a glimpse of I really

549
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 5: appreciate these little one off moments that we get when

550
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 5: we see just like a smaller coupling of the of

551
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: the women together, like the scene with Susan and Lynette. Yes,

552
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 5: And I think that's when you say I hate behaving

553
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 5: that way. He just he brings it out of me

554
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: and I hate that. And I I loved getting a

555
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 5: little insight into their individual dynamic and I love it

556
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 5: so honest and like you really would be friends. It

557
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 5: was just a brief, little moment, but it was great.

558
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: I love that too, And I actually I really liked

559
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: that idea of what they're connecting over because Lynette is obviously,

560
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: like you know, at her wits end with her husband

561
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: not acknowledging everything that she does, and Susan's just been

562
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: at her wits end with her ex husband and his

563
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: new girlfriend. And they have this connection over living with bitterness,

564
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 3: you know, like not wanting to be the type of

565
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: people that hang on to bitterness, except they do accept

566
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: it's human nature. It's really hard not to. And I

567
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 3: was so, I mean, I'm interested for both of you.

568
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh obviously we all struggle with this to some degree.

569
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: But do you feel like, do you hold on to bitterness?

570
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: Is it easier for you to let go of do

571
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: you have certain tools that you turn to when you

572
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: want to let go of it? Because I just found

573
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: this really interesting.

574
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I've had some big things in

575
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: my life that have have really amounted to a serious

576
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: amount of hurt feelings, bitter feelings, I guess. And you know,

577
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: this is a funny thing that I that I have

578
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: have taken to doing that. And I have a friend

579
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: who has an issue with her neighbor, So I'll use

580
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: that as an example, like over a fence line, you know.

581
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: And I think this is actually not that uncommon, like

582
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: I think people. I know, we're doing a show, but

583
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: I do really think that that that people sometimes do

584
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: get into issues with their neighbors and you can't quite

585
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: run away from it because you both own your house

586
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: and so you're sort of stuck there. But something I've

587
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: tried to take to doing is if I have an

588
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: issue with somebody and I don't seem to really be

589
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: able to fix it, like for whatever reason, the communication

590
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: or whatever the opportunities are, I can't really change what's happening.

591
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I try to remember that someone loves them, that not

592
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: just one person, but probably a lot of people love

593
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: that person that you have this bitter feeling with, the

594
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: same way that if they're feeling bitter about me, lots

595
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: of people love me and when you start to understand

596
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: that the person you have an issue with has a

597
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: bunch of people around them that probably think they're like

598
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: the funniest person or like they're so charming when they

599
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: read children's books, or they make the best oatmeal or

600
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: whatever it is that they somebody thinks that about them,

601
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: and it somehow dissipates my ability to be angry, and

602
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: I just end up feeling like maybe a little melancholy,

603
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: like I wish this wasn't the way it is, but

604
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: it lets go of a little bit of my personal

605
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: like internal bitterness, and that's helped me a lot. Yeah,

606
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: it helped me a lot.

607
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 6: I really love that you can try.

608
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: That's great advice.

609
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 7: Thank you, Okay, and real daughter, that's great.

610
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: So now let's get to Gabby.

611
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: You're speaking of your neighbor people that you can't get

612
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: rid of.

613
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: That quick pan over to those that little girl's face

614
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 5: in the window, Oh that girl, she was so perfect.

615
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: And I really truly didn't remember any of this, So

616
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: I actually initially wrote down like who is that child?

617
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Did you look at it? No?

618
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: But I meant in the context of the show, like

619
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: I was like, who is that I was as jumped

620
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: as Gabby and John as to like, who is this

621
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 5: person who's spying on them?

622
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: And the fear I have no recollection by the way

623
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: of them being in multiple episodes, so I don't know.

624
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: They yeah, kind of like their new neighbors, and you're

625
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: like where I think they're hanging out with somewhere.

626
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Like kind of vaguely behind the bushes, to the side

627
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: of Gabby's house. You kind of see them go back there.

628
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: I have a question.

629
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: Okay, so I had a question for both of you

630
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: about this takeaway. I'm I'm sort of grappling with about

631
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: interpreting Gabrielle's character. So you know, there's in this episode

632
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 5: we're kind of faced again with the fact that she's

633
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: covering up this affair she's having right with.

634
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: A child, by the way, who's in algebra classes. Oh

635
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: my god, I again, I'm sorry, I have to again.

636
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: I wrote I wrote down all caps. Oh MFG. Question,

637
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 2: our question, our exclamation point. The Gabby John relationship is

638
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: just so problematic. I don't know what else to say.

639
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: I know, I know he's in algebra class and on

640
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 5: the soccer and then he's later yeah, on the track field.

641
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, I know it's it's that's he has tube socks.

642
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, she wants she wants him to leave.

643
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 6: His gym clothes on, you know, it's all you really.

644
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 5: But I'm wondering because we're seeing this side, and I

646
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: know we can talk more about the specifics, about the

647
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: way the husband's characters are more defined this episode, and

648
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 5: I think that we've shared this. I didn't remember feeling

649
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: like Carlos was as threatening as he is. Yeah, and

650
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: he really is, and he's a very domineering, you know, presence.

651
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: And I'm wondering, as I'm sort of re getting to

652
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: know Gabrielle as a new character, do we think that

653
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: she's going to these extreme lengths to cover up her affair,

654
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 5: because obviously she doesn't want him to know.

655
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: But do we think that.

656
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: She is afraid of losing her lifestyle more or afraid

657
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: of her husband?

658
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 6: Hmmm.

659
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Wow, that's an interesting question.

660
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: Because I've been trying to think about it because I

661
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: don't know that I have an answer yet. I feel

662
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: like she is so strong with him, you know, and

663
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: she pushes back so much to him, she doesn't necessarily

664
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: clue him in that she would be afraid of him.

665
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: So then that makes me think, oh, well, maybe it's

666
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: more that she has set herself up to live this

667
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: life that she thought she wanted and now she's afraid

668
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: of what it looks like if it all goes away.

669
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like that has been my

670
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: instinct with her character. Was also that she has this

671
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: amazing lifestyle, she has all this money. They seem to

672
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: throw money, or Carlos throws money at their marriage problems,

673
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: and I'm curious in the same way I'm curious about

674
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: breeze backstory, I'm curious about Gabby's backstory asides from being,

675
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: you know, this model that we hear about, where does

676
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: she come from and what does that life look like

677
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: and did she I get the sense that it feels

678
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: like she did not grow up with the memes that

679
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: she now has with Carlos, and so she's kind of

680
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: afforded a lifestyle that is maybe somewhat new, but maybe

681
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: not because if you're working in high fashion, maybe you

682
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: are getting paid well. Like It's an interesting conundrum that

683
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: I definitely have not fully cracked.

684
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm just like Pollyanna or whatever,

685
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: but I think it was the pilot where there was

686
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: a flashback to when those two characters met and when

687
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: he asked her to marry him, like on the third day. Yeah,

688
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: and how giddily excited she was that I I want

689
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: to believe that she really did fall in love with him,

690
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: and and that maybe the stuff was great, but that

691
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: that she really did think that she was in love

692
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: with him, that it wasn't just like a gold digger,

693
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: that she really was in love with optimistic. I know,

694
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm really I'm not sure that they deserve it, but

695
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm sort of trying to hang onto that.

696
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: I'm so excited to see how their relationship evolves, because,

697
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: like I said, I didn't remember this part of him,

698
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: and so I think you might be onto something that

699
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: I was.

700
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Really struck by how much the Carlos character, the threateningness

701
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: of him, and how that's adding up right, you know,

702
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: always looking for the little nitpicky stuff, you know. I

703
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: don't really remember that. But then this is part of

704
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: the I think I brought this up before. I'm not

705
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: in it all, and you know, and so this part

706
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: of the story is like watching a show I'm not in.

707
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't there when they shot that. I don't

708
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: know what they discussed. This is why I'm so interested

709
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: to have Mark on, and I think we're going to

710
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: get to have Ricardo on too, which I'm excited about.

711
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: So exciting because I want to know, like, especially for

712
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: something as big as that, like what did he feel

713
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: like as an actor? Was that uncomfortable? Like where did

714
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: he find the groundingness of like what did he think

715
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: of that? So hopefully we'll get to get some of

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: those answers.

717
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious.

718
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So now I think we have to talk about

719
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: the iconic scene.

720
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: Yes, a little girl, the little Girls bribe, she gets

721
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: her by Yabby runs along, godles her.

722
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, the most iconic moment. I just have to say

723
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 6: I have had questions about this.

724
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: I know, I mean I was like, I know this,

725
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: I know what's about to happen. I feel like I

726
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: visited set the day that you filmed something involving duct tape.

727
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I'll talk about that, but it is

728
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: I think in my career the idea of being real

729
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: and spectacular from being Jerry Seinfeld's girlfriend and this moment,

730
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: they really are. Like I think if you're looking at

731
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: spectacular television moments like this has got to be one

732
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: of them.

733
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 6: I mean the comedic time.

734
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: It's so choreographed, which obviously your background isn't dance. You

735
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: are so good at nailing that timing.

736
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 5: The side stepping, the little side stepping to the side.

737
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: Had me just dying.

738
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I had remembered how great it was, but

739
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 5: there's no way, you know, to really get it until

740
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: you're watching it again. You are so funny, you are

741
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: so good, and it's so earned because you're just you're

742
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: feeling so high and mighty, you know, like you are

743
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 5: the moral high ground and you are standing there and

744
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: you you know you've got the power, and then he

745
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 5: just strips it, literally strips it from you in like

746
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: an instant.

747
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: And it was a great scene. I mean, this is

748
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: why you become an actress, like and this is why

749
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: a nod to the writing, you know, like.

750
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: This, do you remember reading the scene? Oh yeah.

751
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: And the thing is when you're thinking about this as

752
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: an actress, you're thinking about this build. This starts at

753
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: the dining table. This scene starts at the dining room table,

754
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: you know, like like where just that that vulnerable thing

755
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: of like I'm gonna try to be a good human being.

756
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to do the big thing. I'm

757
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: really gonna do it. Oh, this is where I wanted

758
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: to talk about Richard Bergery. And I don't know if

759
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: you remember this, this guy, he would have the crew in,

760
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: just the whole crew, the line the heart wants what

761
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: the heart wants. We must have said this line as

762
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: a crew for months, four years, possibly four years. When

763
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: you think about lines that like go on and on

764
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: and nobody ever forgets the heart wants what the heart wants.

765
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: I mean people would go like, you know, what are

766
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: you gonna have for lunch today? I don't know, the heart.

767
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 6: Wants what the heart wants?

768
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: Like it was just a thing that nobody could go

769
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: and Richard's thing that he would do with his body.

770
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: He was always like he would stick his hand up

771
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: his shirt and he was always like it was just

772
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: he I mean, he just brought it. And so anyways,

773
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: my point is the whole payoff to the outside naked

774
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: stuff is all started at that bat kitchen table. And

775
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: as an actress, you're thinking, if I don't do this right,

776
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: then none of this is going to be funny, like

777
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: like like yeah, and and and it is like, I mean,

778
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: you see how excited I am. I just I hope

779
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: in my lifetime I get a chance to play a

780
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: scene like this again, that kind of comedy that is

781
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: rooted in truth, that even rooted and but the vulnerability

782
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: and whatever, it is so honest. Then you can be

783
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: crazy and fall in a bush and and do a

784
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: little jig across the lawn and it doesn't seem ridiculous

785
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: because it's earned.

786
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 5: Like you said, you know, and even him showing up

787
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: when you told him, like, hey, when you drop her

788
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 5: off tomorrow, you know, and he just walks over all

789
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 5: your boundaries. He just feel like tears into your life

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: and then you know, and so yeah, by the time

791
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 5: you get to that point.

792
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: It's just it's so good. The payoff is so good,

793
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: and you are so so good.

794
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: The physicality of it was what you're remembering about the

795
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: duct tape, so tell us about So. I think that

796
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: they had gotten for some reason, we had gotten a

797
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: new wardrobe person that day. Her name was Susan. She

798
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: was lovely, she was with the show for the whole time.

799
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: I just I love and adore her. She'd been to

800
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: my house many time for parties, and I would give

801
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: anything for the crew. And I think they knew that

802
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: we had that kind of relationship anyways. But I do

803
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: think it was Susan's first day for some reason, because

804
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: she maybe she came on as an extra person, or

805
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: maybe they replaced somebody. I don't really know, but it

806
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: was her first day. And it was basically like, Hi,

807
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: nice to meet you. Can you cover my private parts?

808
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: And because I wanted I always go the extra mile,

809
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: and I wanted the director to have as much freedom

810
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: to shoot me as he could. So I didn't want

811
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: to wear a thong because I wanted him to be

812
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: able to shoot the side of my body.

813
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: But you do see when you're leaning out from that whole.

814
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: But if I had born underwear.

815
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: You you, they would have had to shoot around it, would.

816
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: Have around it. And I just think, so what we

817
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: did is we put kleenex over like the nipples and

818
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: over like the other parts, the other bits, and then

819
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: we put duct tape over the kleenex so that it

820
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: just went basically like a strip, you know, like a

821
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 2: tiny strip and a tiny other strip. And and I.

822
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 6: Mean, how was that on there?

823
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: That Cleenextut Country shot that scene for probably at least

824
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: six hours because it's a lot of sides of the house,

825
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: and I mean, it was the whole day, really, and

826
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: I do remember the whole backs of my legs from

827
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: falling in the bushes were like cut up and bruised up.

828
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: But you know, you don't feel any of that when

829
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: you're doing it. You're just so in it. And there

830
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: was a stunt girl who probably did the main fall

831
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: into the bushes, even though I'm sure I did some

832
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: version of it.

833
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure you did. You always did. I always did

834
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: your stuff.

835
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: But they definitely had a stunt person and.

836
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, she's also wearing Kleenex and doctor.

837
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: That I don't remember. She just did the falling in

838
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: the bushes, But I kind of have this loose memory.

839
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: This would be a good question for a crew member

840
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: for Paul.

841
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 6: We've talked about Paul.

842
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember the crew sort of like

843
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: applauding the whole thing, like when we finished the whole thing,

844
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: it was this is another like fun history of of

845
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. It's like that is a collaboration with

846
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: the steady cam operator, with the props department, with the

847
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: wardrobe department, with the lighting department. You know, you can't

848
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: do that by yourself, and you can have these and

849
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: obviously the director, you can have these ideas, but you know,

850
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: it takes this group. It's just a it's just a

851
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: priceless example of when it all works.

852
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

853
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: So it's really neat that I get to have a

854
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: lifetime where I have that as one of my memories. Yeah,

855
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: and that have in this episode and it was probably

856
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: one of the best scenes I ever did in seven years.

857
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's really amazing. I watched it

858
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 6: a few times.

859
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: I just thought it is I mean, because it was

860
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: it was this beautifully choreographed dance.

861
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 6: And Mike showing up.

862
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 5: At the end also so funny, right, because we know

863
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: where things are on the set, right, so like, I

864
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: know where he.

865
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: Found you, and I'm thinking, why was Mike walking on

866
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: the side of the house, you know, from a viewers.

867
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: I think though, it's because he went and tried the

868
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: front door and it was locked and nobody answered, and

869
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: so he probably hadn't.

870
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: Been able to reach you to say I want to

871
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: come to dinner. That's probably why, And so really he

872
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 5: was did you know what there? That's you being another

873
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 5: that's you being a good actor again. Yeah, and then

874
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: him finding you and then you know, you crossing your

875
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: legs it's all just so funny.

876
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: I had a sex dream the other night. It was

877
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: the first one I'd had in a long time.

878
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we've gone totally off the rail.

879
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: Terry's revealing.

880
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: I was really happy to have it because I have

881
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: them often, like.

882
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 6: A good one, yesh with who it was?

883
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: Not anybody I knew. It was a man that would

884
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: have been like appropriately my age, A handsome man, a

885
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: handsome one who was kind of like weathered wrinkles, but

886
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: like still handsome, but like appropriate, like somebody I would date,

887
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: but like completely not a movie starter.

888
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 5: You've actually seen this person before. Sometimes I wonder if

889
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 5: the strangers that appear in our dreams are like people

890
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: we've seen on the street and clocked.

891
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: And you are an appropriately aged, handsome man with a

892
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: weathered face.

893
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 6: Find my mother.

894
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: Write in beautiful note because she's waiting for you.

895
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 6: Because I have duct tape. Okay, so it's just amazing.

896
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 6: Then I think we have to build to what I've

897
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 6: brought here today.

898
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: Yes, then they do go to dinner that none of

899
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: I just I loved that none of the husbands want

900
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: to go to this dinner. Yeah, and all the women, Yes,

901
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: of course we're going to do this. We're going to

902
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: do this in her honor. We all want to go,

903
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: and every single one of the husband's in their own way,

904
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: except of course Mike, who's excited just to be with

905
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: Susan and he's not a husband yet they all don't

906
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: want to go. And I thought this was such an

907
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: interesting split of the masculine versus the feminine.

908
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love a dinner.

909
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: Party, and I feel like a lot of my male

910
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: or more masculine identifying friends also love a dinner party,

911
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 3: but there is a kind of different excitement amongst my girlfriends.

912
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: Well, I have a book club that's all women and

913
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: we love getting together. And you know me, I throw

914
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: a lot of parties. Yes, I feel like that's been

915
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: one of my identities.

916
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 6: Is party throw is an amazing person and I love.

917
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Cooking meals for people. So it is funny. I really

918
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: in my real life, I am sort of a combination

919
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: of Breed and Susan. I think i'm and maybe I'm

920
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: a combination of all of these.

921
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: Well, you also definitely have the Lynette. I mean, at

922
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: least the working at the time that she was working

923
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: for a.

924
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Like breadwinner or whatever. Well, so all of our characters

925
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: find themselves at this dinner.

926
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 5: At another iconic scene another except except for Paul, Well Paul.

927
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: And uh and Tom. Yeah he has to stay.

928
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 6: On he stays home with the sugar.

929
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 4: And who looks beautiful at that dress.

930
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: I thought she was great in that dress.

931
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: Another timeless, you know moment of fashion from the show.

932
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: Always jealous of people like you Emerson that can wear

933
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: that have like little breasts and you can wear those backs.

934
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: I would like, I I honestly. But the spectacular yeah,

935
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: but a huge part they're not really real and spectacular.

936
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: I mean, they are really real, but they're certainly not

937
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: spectacular even I'm not sure they ever were spectacular, certainly

938
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: not out of a brawl. They might have been spectacular

939
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: in a bra, but they've never been spectacular out of

940
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: the bra. But there's still real and now they're not

941
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: even spectacular on a bra, so like, don't even it

942
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: doesn't even matter anymore. But that said, I've always wanted

943
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: to be flat chested so that I could wear those

944
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: kind of like dresses.

945
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: I have to say, I have a friends, I have

946
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: friends who felt self conscious about being flat chested, and

947
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: I never did because growing up with you, you always said,

948
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous, you can wear the message.

949
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: So that was actually a good body image thing.

950
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 6: I think it was. It was a very good body

951
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: That's great.

952
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Because usually moms like crush their their tea.

953
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 6: I love it.

954
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this scene, Yes.

955
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: So what I've made here, this is a vegan carrot

956
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: ginger soup. Wow, it's really delicious. I I'm going to

957
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: serve it to you with a little bit of coconut

958
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: cream and chopped parsley over the top.

959
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 6: This is a soup that.

960
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: No one eats. So much tension at this table that

961
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: the soup just sits there being lovely, but we're going

962
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: to eat it.

963
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: This is this really is the dinner party from hell

964
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: in the sense of the silence around the table and

965
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 3: everyone kind of trying. And then I love I love

966
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: the moment of shared humanity that happens before Brie completely

967
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: you know it says what she says about Rat.

968
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 5: To go back just a bit, because I want to say, like,

969
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 5: the reason that this is the tension so thick is

970
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 5: because Brie has made this big deal to her husband

971
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 5: about keeping their secret that they're.

972
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 6: In marriage with Tennis lessons.

973
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 5: They have the facade up about they go to tennis lessons.

974
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 5: She brings her tennis gear to therapy, which is hysterical,

975
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: and so she's made a big point to Rex about

976
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: we're not talking about this. You're not going to drink

977
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 5: because you get loose lipped, and it's our secret.

978
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: And she has that one amazing one liner when she goes,

979
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 3: my backhand is improving immensely, but you're still having trouble

980
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: with your serfs.

981
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: Yes, do I just get to say, Marsha, Marsha Marshall.

982
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: I just to not get over her comedic delivery on

983
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: some of these things.

984
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 6: That was my favorite line.

985
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's so so great, and so again

986
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: just like sums up their dynamic. He's like, of course,

987
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 5: of course that would be the backstory you come up

988
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 5: with for us. So then cut to him at the

989
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 5: dinner party talking to Carlos. Carlos does that thing which

990
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 5: everyone hates when you're trying to lie and someone just

991
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 5: keeps asking you questions and you have to recommit to

992
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: the lie every time, and he finally breaks. It doesn't

993
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 5: take him long, but he breaks, and he reveals that

994
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: they are in fact in marriage counseling, and Bree is horrified.

995
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: Right, he drops that tray of these little cucumbers go everywhere.

996
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 5: And so now we're sitting at the dinner table and

997
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 5: Susan's the one to break the tension by her camaraderie

998
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 5: and sharing her story.

999
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: And yes, and then and then Lynette follows with an

1000
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: amazing story about how her and her husband got kicked

1001
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: off of the Mister Toad's Wild Ride, which I love that.

1002
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you brot on that.

1003
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that ridland. Honestly, that was one

1004
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: of my favorite rides growing up.

1005
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: And it's very it's very steamy and hot because.

1006
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 6: You go to Hell Point. I mean, this ride is

1007
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 6: definitely weird.

1008
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh I think they might have already gone. I'm not sure.

1009
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: I was just there.

1010
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: I feel like we were there like a year or

1011
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: so ago and it was still there, Okay, And many

1012
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: people say this is their favorite ride. But you you

1013
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 3: get into a car, you're mister Toad, You're wreaking havoc,

1014
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: you're getting drunk, You drive onto a train track.

1015
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: You after causing a lot of may you.

1016
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: Get hit by a train, and then you come to

1017
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: in Hell because that's the end of the ride. You

1018
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 3: go through Hell and then you come out and the ride's.

1019
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: Over and getting it on and on in there.

1020
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like a ride where people have gotten

1021
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: it off.

1022
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, there is. It is amazing.

1023
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: There and if you do the wrong thing, you probably

1024
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: do get purp walked down main Street like those characters did.

1025
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think it stopped. I'm sure there's percentage

1026
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: of people that have done that. So they did that.

1027
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: And then Gary talks about breaking a water bread. You

1028
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: know my parents had water bread.

1029
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: Oh my god, really was their seventies.

1030
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: My parents had a big, giant, king sized.

1031
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: Water crazy that someone created a waterbed and the country

1032
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 5: was like, yep.

1033
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: The standard hotel used to have those waterbeds that were

1034
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: in the dome up on the rooftop along the pool.

1035
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 6: It was like a white dome and there was a.

1036
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Waterbed inside instead of the cabanas or something.

1037
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 6: It was crazy.

1038
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: So this is all leading to share.

1039
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 6: Softens.

1040
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: Well, it feels like, okay, amazing, they've saved this. Everyone

1041
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: was vulnerable. We got pretty pictures. They're all sharing humiliating stories.

1042
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: And then Andrew do you want.

1043
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 7: To say it?

1044
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: I would like you to say it.

1045
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 3: Oh great, I really my love it for that one.

1046
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 3: And then says that Rex cries after he comes that well,

1047
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: he actually says after he ejaculates.

1048
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: You know.

1049
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 5: I remember, Okay, so obviously when we shot, you know,

1050
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: the first season, I was fourteen by this point, and

1051
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 5: so my parents would read the scripts too. It wasn't

1052
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 5: just me who would read them. And I remember my

1053
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 5: dad coming into the kitchen after reading that and he was,

1054
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he thought it was so funny and he

1055
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 5: was so shocked that they were saying this on network TV.

1056
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

1057
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he was and my dad's like not.

1058
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: Easily flappable, like he's he's hip, he's cool, he's not

1059
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: like a prude or anything, but he was just he

1060
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: thought it was so amazing, amazing.

1061
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that.

1062
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: Was some definite boundary pushing.

1063
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean, wow, he like pushed back at all.

1064
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: They probably did, probably did, which we you know, we'd

1065
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: have to ask Mark.

1066
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 6: I would imagine still today.

1067
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I was just on a notes call today

1068
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: about a project I'm writing, and we were talking about

1069
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: how there's one scene where, for one second I wrote

1070
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: that a character comes out and joins another character on

1071
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: the porch and lights a cigarette. And the producer's note was, oh,

1072
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: make sure you don't have any smoking because we just

1073
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 3: don't want to have to deal with the studio notes

1074
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: on this for this.

1075
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 6: Type of wow.

1076
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: And it's fascinating how pervasive the attention to certain moments

1077
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: like that, right still is. So to think about saying

1078
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: something like ejaculate is really I can only imagine.

1079
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean, but also I mean it is so explosive,

1080
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: so boundary breaking, but also like, can you think of

1081
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: anything that would have been.

1082
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: More humiliated humiliated.

1083
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: To him than that to him?

1084
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: In particularly Yeah, I mean it apps, I mean, it

1085
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: just like cuts through every piece of everything.

1086
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: It's just such a it's like it's.

1087
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 5: Such a powerful moment because it's so funny, it's so shocking,

1088
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: and it also for their individual characters, like him, the

1089
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: way that that would wound him, but her taking taking

1090
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 5: a moment to say something that biting and that it does,

1091
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: it does break her facade a little bit, like the

1092
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: way that she is because of herself, is not someone

1093
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 5: who would say something like that, right, So, like, so

1094
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: much happens, so much.

1095
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: Is charged in yeah, Yeah, she is still deflecting away

1096
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: from herself. You know, she is still not owning owning

1097
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: something she's done.

1098
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 5: That's right, they're humanizing themselves to her to try to

1099
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 5: make her feel better about being in marriage counseling. And

1100
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: instead of her going like, oh yeah, well, thank you

1101
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: guys for you know, doing that, she punches with that

1102
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 5: and it is just.

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00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, it's interesting.

1104
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: She's got guns. Oh man, yeah, metaphor I know, oh

1105
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: my god, that ner a line and the other episode, yeah,

1106
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: for episode one was hilarious. And so then right after this,

1107
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: she steals mary Alice's tape.

1108
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: Well she yeah, she goes to her therapist and she

1109
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: finds she's looking for her husband's tape again, crossing another

1110
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: boundary finds mary Alice, and she's.

1111
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 5: So horrible and desperate to use the word but in

1112
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 5: that scene of like I need you to tell me

1113
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 5: what it is, like what can I do?

1114
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: You know? And then she is like I can't.

1115
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, and I mean as a good therapist.

1116
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Paul puts the house up for sale,

1117
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: and then Lynette asks are we happy? And I think, like,

1118
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: that's just you know, as we kind of wrap this

1119
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: up with our carrot ginger soup, but we're.

1120
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Speaker 4: Very well, we will actually do that.

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00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean that I wonder if in relationships, like I'm

1122
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 2: not in a relationship, but like I do sometimes say

1123
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: to you, like, are we good? Like sometimes I'll just

1124
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: say that, you know, like not like.

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00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: My girlfriend sometimes she always says, I say it completely

1126
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: out of the blue.

1127
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: We're having a fantastic tag do you love me? Very

1128
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 6: happy with me?

1129
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: And I guess there there should be room in a

1130
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: relationship to just take the pulse of totally of it.

1131
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: And I think if you, I think the fear is

1132
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: if you don't take the pulse periodically, something is going

1133
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: to get away from you.

1134
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 5: And also different people have different metrics for what happy is,

1135
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 5: and so you know you're in a marriage, it's a

1136
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: collective relationship, but there's two individuals with their own things

1137
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 5: going on, and so the need to check in and say, like, hey,

1138
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 5: how are we as a unit? I think is vital

1139
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: to the health of a relationship. But also such a

1140
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 5: vulnerable moment for Minette.

1141
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: And it takes a lot to bring back what you

1142
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 3: were saying at the beginning of this episode, this theme

1143
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: of living in fear and what do we live in fear?

1144
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 3: It takes a lot of bravery to ask the question

1145
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: are we happy? And to open the door to what

1146
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: that answer might be, you know, and we end on

1147
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: the image of Paul putting the first sale sign up

1148
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 3: in his house. It's like the complete opposite of looking

1149
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: at what's going on underneath. He's trying to run away from.

1150
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: It and doing it under the cloak of darkness.

1151
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 5: You know, you guys are all in bed, and then

1152
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 5: it's it's kind of everyone hearing that same clunk clunk, sum.

1153
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, just another banger of an episode.

1154
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: I know, my god, I can't wait to see what

1155
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: happens next.

1156
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 2: It does keep you coming back for more. You guys

1157
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: will want to keep coming back for more, and keep

1158
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: visiting the US and keep watching with us, and keep

1159
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: hanging and talking with us, and check out our recipes

1160
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: because I wish everyone was here to share.

1161
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 6: This soup with us. I know, I cannot wait to

1162
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 6: dig in.

1163
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, catch it next week and next next time.

1164
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because why Because we're destinly devoted, voted, We are

1165
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 6: Desperately devoted to you and each other.