1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini episode, mini episode, motherfucking mini episode. 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Now, son, man to man, we both know the game, 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: and you know all about heartache and pain. 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: This is my. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: God daughter. 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to protect her. Her. You may 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: have been a moon to her, but to me, she's 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: the start. 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Welcome to. 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Mama, gentiles alike, to another phenomenal episode of My Mama 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Told Me. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: The podcast when we dive deep, deep into the pockets 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: of black conspiracy theories. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: And we finally work to prove the conspiracy theories of 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: you the listeners. It's a motherfucker many. 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: Episodes, motherfucking mini episode and gorgeous singing. By the way, 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: I don't want that to go unrecognized. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: I had to let it be done. I mean, that's 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: a big Chicago hit, right, you guys love that song. 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: Uh well, I think nobody's allowed to love that song 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: anymore publicly, but certainly. 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Well listen, that's a Kelly Price song. 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: Okay, that's an interpretation. Yeah, what do you mean? 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: That's it? That is that's that's it is a Kelly Price. 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: It's technically a Kelly Price song. 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: You're right, it is, he said seven Woods in It's 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: a Kelly Price Ronald Lesley's. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: Song fair enough, come on, let's. 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Not, let's not, let's not let that filthy man cain't 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Kelly Price's beautiful legacy. 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think it's fair 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: that R Kelly gets to ruin music across the board. 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, we're going to and maybe this 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: is what we're talking about now, We're going to be 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: forced into the same conversation shortly with uh with Diddy Puffy. 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: Shit is gonna be complicated in a similar way, I imagine, 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: And we're gonna have to wrestle whether or not Ready 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: to Die is now a problematic whole album. That's what 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: I I'm still playing I Need a Girl, and I'm 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: still playing more Money, more problems. That's and listen, I 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: can you can take the rest of the catalog from me. 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: I won't ever listen to Victory again, but come on. 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: I think I need Bad Boys for life as well. 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: That amped me up as a as a seventh grader 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: in a way that I'm not sure I'll ever be 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: amped up. 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: It was a good feeling. Don't worry if I write rhymes, 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: all right, checks. 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: And then it's like that wasn't even cool back then 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: to admit that that other people worked for it, you 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: And know it sucked and it was still like and 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: the video is good and I need a girl. It's 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: just like, I think we're of the age. We all 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: wanted to be those men. Hmhmm. 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely want to be Loom Yeah, absolutely, Mario, you got 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: damn right. I wanted to be Mario Winans. 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: There was a minute where he really could have done it. 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but man, Mario Winans had 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: a shot. 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He was in that bad Boy camp 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: and bad Boy was thriving in a way that nobody 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: had thrived in a minute. Yeah, he could have. He 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: could have made something of himself. 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: You remember that. Why would you want to break up 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: some h that was so with Gucci mane? 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember one. 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: That's fifty one coming. Yeah, I hope he's doing okay, man, 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: he's clearly amazing. 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Gucci's flying and Mario Winans, hey, hey, you pumped 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: good gas, my man, And. 74 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: Come on, I think he made money at a time 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: where like he for sure bought a house off all that. 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: I think so and I I believe he is, in 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: fact the air of the actual whining. Yeah, so I 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: don't think that he's going to be without I think 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: he just may not. You know, all it may not 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: all come from his contributions at all times. 81 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Are BB and ccs aunts. 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 3: I think CC is bb I'm assuming uncle Dad, I don't. 83 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: Know, okay whatever. 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember Whinings Phase two? 85 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: No? I don't even know what that is. 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: So oh, thank god. So there was, and said, I 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: want to say this before I even tell you about it, 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: but they meant the fucking world to me. I cannot 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: Phase two was a group of of cousins who who 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: were like under the bb CC that tear, So those 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: were their aunts and uncles and parents and ship. But 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: it was just like all the sons of of the 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: various Whinings who came together and made a like Christian 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: R and B group called Whinings Face Too. And their 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: album was fucking great, like I shit you not, was 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: like and it played on some like kind of sexy music, 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: but for Jesus it was cool, man. I really liked 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: that music. 99 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: When I was I'm looking at I'm looking at the cover. 100 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: It looks sexy. 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 3: It's really sexy, but they're so. 102 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: We got the album. 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: It's all right. Who do you love? Real love? Come 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: on over? These are sex. 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: Songs, but but they're not. Come on over is about 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: getting baptized. 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: Oh this was called thank you Lord. Every day Away. 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: This is why every day Away was my jam. Doug 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: crazy for every day Away. 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Well, this podcast blows up. Hopefully we get you a here. 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: Come on, man, give me all what was it? Five 113 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: of them? Give me all? 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: Five? One for classic classic kids R and B group 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: where the little one looks too little and the old 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: one looks too old. That's right, which I love that? 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: Like about like so for real where like the one 118 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: dude was like twenty six. Yeah, you're like a twelve 119 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: year older. Like they shouldn't have been hanging out. 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Marlin and Jackie ain't got nothing to talk about. 121 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. They have sex. They like 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: having sex with women. 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: Think it's playing with cars while he gets he got 124 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: horrors lined up outside of his hotel room. 125 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: I'm on the radio. It's nineteen seventy two. I don't 126 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: give a fuck about Michael. I do thieve they hated him. 127 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: I bet they hated he even had to be in 128 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: the hotel room. 129 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: That's yeah, he probably fucked up a lot of good 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: pussy for them. 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh you don't think that little we don't know what 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: was scaring the hose away. Yeah, I got this pet 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: rat that like you're sitting on the couch and she 134 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: sits down. 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: He's like, out, you're hurting me, and it's like, fucking Michael, Oh, 136 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: get the funk out of here, Michael. When your elbow 137 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: hit my elbow, it hurt. 138 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: He's trying to he's trying to sing, and that's the thing. 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: He's so good at singing. They're gonna watch the girls. 140 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: It's a free Michael Jackson concert. 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: You want to hear, but you're not gonna like get 142 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: horny afterwards. You're just like, damn, I'll watch Michael Jackson singing. 143 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: I don't really singing anymore. 144 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's singing the fucking song from the Ben 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: soundtrack Rat movies. We both found with me Will looking 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: put his head through the wall. They were probably bad 147 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: big brothers because like that's like at that age and 148 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: then you got it. I bet you was fucked. 149 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were abused. They were then probably taking that 150 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: abuse out on the younger siblings. 151 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: It could be hurt people. 152 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: It could not have been a happy household in any way, 153 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: shape or form. 154 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, before he developed a business acumen, he was 155 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: for sure the weak one. They probably didn't even know 156 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: he was gonna get richer than them. No, he was like, 157 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: he was like, I'll show you, I'll show them all. 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet there was like a period because you know, 159 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: Jermaine was sort of like the number two and right, 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: and his voice was often featured on songs too. I 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: bet there was a long period where Jermaine was like, yeah, 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: Michael's the lead singer now because he's got that cute 163 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: little like thing happening. But when we both get grown 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: man voices, I'm gonna be the start jack, you know. 165 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: I bet like fucking Joe was in his ear like 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: you'll get your shine, you we got you wait, Yeah, 167 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: you gotta wait your turn kind of thing. 168 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, damn. Nobody talks about. And also here's what 169 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: I think about, and then we'll get to our email. 170 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Nobody talks about. You don't think Tito felt the brunt 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: of those jokes. I think I think everybody made fun 172 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: of Tito cause his name was Tito. You just sound 173 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: like the backup in your own family. 174 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say, though, I think that Tito, of 175 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: all of them, probably is doing the best, like just 176 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: as a human being. And I wonder if maybe that's 177 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: what kept him grounded, was like everybody making fun of him, 178 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: being the butt of every joke in this sort of 179 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: like Michael Jackson fiasco made it so that Tito don't 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: really like act up. He don't have no issues. You 181 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: never hear about Tito doing nothing. 182 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: Wrong, that's true. You don't think he wants to like 183 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: beat up the Waynes brothers. 184 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: Though, for making fun of him all those years. 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: They leaned hard on on that ship. It was a 186 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: lot of you do joke, you know what I mean? 187 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: It was like they're their number two go to bit. 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty high up. It was pretty high up. 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: You know what I think wants to fight them? Is uh? 190 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: I bet Scottie Pippen every time that. 191 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 4: Meme of oh yeah, Marlin President's face against the glass 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: and saying I'm Scottie Pippen. 193 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: I also, oh, you know who else I've been wanting 194 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: to fight them? Is he even still alive? He might 195 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: be dead shop ranks. 196 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they did that because mister ugly Man is 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: hilarious in Living Color. Went crazy hard at him. 198 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: That that fucking Oh my god, mister ugly Man. Oh fuck, 199 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: it's so fun. I'm gonna watch it after this. 200 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: It's so good. It's not even clever. 201 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: It's not at all. It's not at all. Even the 202 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: verses just like my fist saw dunk and make me 203 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: a little Ugrey then like. 204 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: I think he was drooling at some point. It's not concept, 205 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: it's not thought out. It's just being mean to an adult. 206 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: And I'd be lying if I said I didn't like 207 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: it as much as the original. 208 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: It might have been my favorite in Living Color sketch 209 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: when I was a kid. 210 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Dude, it's tough, it's it's top. It's up there because 211 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: fire Marshall. Bill really scared me. 212 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he made me uncomfortable. And Homie did too. If 213 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm being honest with you, there was a period where 214 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: Homie was funny to me, and then there was a 215 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: period where I was like, man, he's like kind of 216 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: bad to kids. He's like mean. I don't think he 217 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: would like me. I don't like that. 218 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 2: I had I have a now I've learned this term 219 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: because of social media. I have a core memory. I 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: remember like playing I was playing with toy cars, sitting 221 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: on the floor, because you remember how kids used to 222 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: always have to sit on the floor. Do kids still 223 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: sit on the floor all the time? 224 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: Uh? My daughter has a very small chair that's not 225 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: like cushioned, but it is on the floor. But it's like, 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's sort of like a 227 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: dog bed if you will, for a baby. 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: Well, I always sat on the floor, but I have 229 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: a core memory sitting on the floor. I was playing 230 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: with like cars or something like that, and looking up 231 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: at the TV, which we had a black and white 232 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: TV now I remember for way too long. Yeah, we 233 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: had the black and white where you had to like 234 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: it had the two dials, remember. 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: One for turning the channels and one for turning the value. 236 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: I believe. I think it was like a double channel 237 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: fit like vhf H some shit like that. It had 238 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: two clickie dials. And we were watching that TV and 239 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: I remember looking up and seeing fire Marshall Bill put 240 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: his hand into the meat grinder and getting like I 241 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: might have started crying, but I remember being really scared. 242 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was he did some fucked up ship. 243 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: He's a burn victim. Let's fuck anyways. 244 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, victims, tell me that one time for the burn victims. 245 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah things all right, all right, this email is from Alison, 246 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Thank you Alison. It says, Hi, Langston, proud little Mama 247 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: of Asian descent here. Okay, we're getting a lot of 248 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: emails where people say they're race with it. The first. 249 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: Which is I guess it's fair. We kind of like, 250 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: uh called them out to be like some of y'all 251 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: sound like you ate what you your conversation is about. 252 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're just like, hey, before you before you 253 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: fuck with me. Just now I'm aging off top anyway, 254 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: And we're fans of Asians here, we're fans of Asians. 255 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: Acknowledged David next time. 256 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: But but yeah, she said she said David first Thoughtston. 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: I didn't hear the David damn. 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I think that's a bit of a 259 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: tell main character syndrome for one. Please all right, Hi 260 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: David and Langston, proud little Mama of Asian descent here. 261 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. In the recar in the recent mini episode, 262 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: when you gave your disclaimer to your Chinese little Mama's 263 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: followed by Jayshawn's email title titled watch your Pops. The 264 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: first thing I thought about was soda pop because when 265 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: I was a little girl growing up in the nineties, 266 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: another little girl in my neighborhood who's black, would say 267 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: to me, Oh, no, me Chinese, me play joke Miko 268 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: pp and your coach, while pulling back her eyes to 269 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: make them squinty. Fu who amongst us? 270 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: Go ahead, it is your thought. 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, were kids and shit rhyme? You know 272 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 273 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: I didn't know where the origins of Chinese pp and 274 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: a coke even came from. I don't think I don't. 275 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: Really know what it means. 276 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: Still, I assume that they're just like not behaving correctly 277 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: with soda pop. But like, even then, it doesn't really 278 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: make sense or or really say anything about the race. 279 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: It just all it's just shitty. It's just kids being 280 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: like shitty, right, kids, And. 281 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: The problem with it. I think for me, the reason 282 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: I said it so much was like, I just think 283 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: it's funny to go pep and your coke. And now 284 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: that if I'm really unpacking this truthfully, when I would 285 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: say it, I was saying it not to offend Chinese people, 286 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: but because I wanted to pep in your coke, because. 287 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: You wanted to be the quote unquot Chinese person being 288 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: in the coke. 289 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't look at it as a slander towards 290 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: them as much as I thought, oh, these people got good. 291 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Friends, right, They're a silly bunch and I'd like to 292 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: be a part of that. 293 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: It's funny because you couldn't see it in the coke. 294 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: It's not like a sprite where you could tell. Yeah. 295 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: Maybe that's part of where it is too, is like 296 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: it's a stereotype about Asian people being like tricksters and 297 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: and sort of is that. 298 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: Man. I'm glad that this came up because I truly 299 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: had never unpacked it before. But it is interesting. Yeah, 300 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: whenever I did that, I never thought about it as downing. 301 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: I never thought about it as downing Chinese people. I 302 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: thought about it as fuck you, I'm gonna be in 303 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: your coke. 304 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: My guess is that the Chinese people felt differently about it. 305 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Of course they did. It's very terrible. It's like they're 306 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: not good. 307 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: Thing goes on there, like, oh you want to be 308 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: like me? Okay? 309 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could tell well, But I also I 310 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: don't think I was ever into Chinese people. Yeah, no, good, so, 311 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: she says, I wasn't offended by her. We grew up 312 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: in a predominantly white neighborhood, so there were other things 313 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: to be more offended about, facts like what everybody else 314 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: called that little black girl. Anyways, that's very mature of 315 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: you and also very real of you too. Yeah, that's knowledge. 316 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: You're a good one, Allison, A good person. Not Asian. 317 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: They're all good or bad. They contain layers, multitudes. 318 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Really what you are you are multitudes. 319 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: You are multitudes. Anyways, my mama told me that the 320 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: darker the skin, the easier they are to deal with 321 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: in business. 322 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: WHOA, that's a left turn, Allison. 323 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm in My mom, a foreign born Taiwanese woman who 324 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: owned a business here in the US, would complain about 325 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: her white clients being the most difficult to deal with, 326 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: while her black clients were the easiest to deal with. 327 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: Her favorite clients were black people and Filipino people. Same. 328 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: Despite this, she was still pretty racist against dark black 329 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: people multitudes. She didn't like me playing with black kids 330 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: in my neighborhood growing up, would clutch her person around 331 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: black people, etc. Not sure how much research you could 332 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: do around this, but here you go. And then there's 333 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: a ps. I saw David show in Seattle earlier this year. 334 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: Towards the end of your set, you talked about how 335 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: white women doing witchcraft is bullshit, and I lolled real hard. 336 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: When the set ended and the lights came up, I 337 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: stood up to leave and turn around, and there was 338 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: this super angry looking white woman still sitting with their 339 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: arms crossed and um faced, and I laughed inside my 340 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: head at her. You offended some crystal healing bitch. Lol. 341 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Loved the show. Thanks a damn delightful email all around. Also, yes, 342 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: my favorite part about that shoke. I love it because 343 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: you see it's like towards the end of the set too, 344 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: and you see them turn off and not come back. 345 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: It's like amazing, or they just can't keep having fun because. 346 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: They don't like it anymore because I said that their 347 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: little magic is stupid. 348 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: It really cut to the core of them in a 349 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: way that it hurts so bad. 350 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't get to be a white 351 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: lady and a witch. 352 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: Sorry, we're calling upon you because we have new merch 353 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 5: We have very exciting merch that we are now selling 354 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: and it's it's fucking great. 355 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: We love it so much. 356 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: Just sleek, it's sexy. 357 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: Come on, you want to tell them what we have? 358 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is 359 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien 360 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then 361 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: we have the enamel pin with an alien who has 362 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: a coofie on it since my mama told me. And 363 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama, 364 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: which is who you are. 365 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my 366 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: mama told me dot merch table dot com. It's a 367 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: brand new name, but it's the same old merch and 368 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: we would love for you to get some if you 369 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 3: haven't got it already, and we want you to have 370 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: all the sweet stuff, so get it. 371 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this? 372 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: I I will say that at the first line, the 373 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: byline of the theory, I felt nervous that it was 374 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: implying easy when she was saying dark skin people are 375 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: easier to deal with it meant like not as bright 376 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: or not as like cunning in their business comings and goings. 377 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: Easier to put pp in their. 378 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: Coat, Yes, I thought I thought the implication was something 379 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: more I guess offensive frankly, and that that made me go, 380 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: I don't know about this, but I do think if 381 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: I look back on it more, which I think the 382 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: intention of what Alison is saying is very much real. 383 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: That she's like, look, my mom was saying, I enjoyed 384 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: doing business with them more and felt like it was 385 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: more effective business workings with darker skinned people. That to 386 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: me actually rings somewhat true. I think that, like in general, 387 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: the instinct is to get the work done and sort 388 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: of like in a more like reasonable, peaceful manner as 389 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: it comes to like business, especially with black business owners, 390 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: because everybody wants to be cool and not seem like 391 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: an asshole, whereas I think white business is built on 392 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: the idea that, like, to be at the top, you 393 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: must be a dick. 394 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: I feel like it depends on the industry m to 395 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: be completely honest, say, say examples, was she in a 396 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: service industry job? Was she selling insurance? Did she in 397 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: a restaurant? Like? What was the what was the job? 398 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: Because I feel like in most things, yes, I would 399 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with this because of that, 400 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Like I think about like every job you ever had, 401 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: you have like an old black man or woman who 402 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: hates it there, truly despises the system, talk shit to everyone, 403 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: but you can't say anything because they're the best of 404 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: the job type shit, you know what I'm saying. But 405 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: I do think sometimes in the service industry particular, I've 406 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: gone to some it's like, oh, boy when he went 407 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: to Atlanta and he was like, these are gus ripping 408 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: you guys off. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, right, Like, 409 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: so I don't I've overpaid for services sometimes, you know 410 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 411 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think of it less in terms of like 412 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: the service that the customer is receiving when I say 413 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: all of this, oh, the business and I think business 414 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: person to business person is what she's referring to, not 415 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: necessarily like customer service, because I do agree, I've never 416 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: had like great service in Atlanta. It's always I've had 417 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: to go back and forth like four times this month alone, 418 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: or like and literally every time. The car service is 419 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: like a driver texting me like, hey, just come outside, 420 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: I'll just keep circling around. You come outside when you 421 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: got your bag instead of like doing it the way 422 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean that like they're told to 423 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: be done kind of thing. 424 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: I went to a rappers rib establishment and it took 425 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: like it was takeout and I had to wait online 426 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: for like an hour and a half. Yeah, no, it's 427 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: it's like, man, this is not how it goes at 428 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: Noodles and Company. 429 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: No it's not. And any other circumstances, y'all would not 430 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: accept this. 431 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: And the food was reason Yeah, but it was expensive 432 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: as shit too, and I. 433 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: Was just like, damn half of free takeout. 434 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: And not even like yeah for takeout, like it was 435 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: just a little you're just sitting there, you know what 436 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean. 437 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: That's nuts. 438 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just food specifically that I feel like maybe 439 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: we fall short because other than that, you know what 440 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I love my black doctor Barber's always do 441 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: that thing. Come on, yeah, really, because I try to 442 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: patronize black people and anything that I can. And the 443 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: more that I think about it, it is like food 444 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: is where it tends to fall short over everything, which 445 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: is crazy because I think it is one of our 446 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: best exports. 447 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: I think it is as skill that we have mastered 448 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: more than most and I think because of that, there's 449 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: a casualness to the culture around food, right, because our 450 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: food is our home food, and therefore you sort of 451 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: like bring your home ass energy into the business, and 452 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: those aren't always good combinations, you know what I mean. 453 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: Like it's a lot of like aunties and uncles sort 454 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: of in charge, and you don't want your aunties and 455 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: uncles in charge of businesses. 456 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: Right, I think that's reasonable, so yeah, but I mean 457 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: business wise otherwise, I mean, I think even within maybe 458 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: now that I'm thinking about it, maybe more in entertainment. 459 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: It's kind of a mixed bag too. I guess I 460 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: feel like we contain multitudes. 461 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: I just can't say multitudes. 462 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: I think it's like, sometimes it's great. I think there 463 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: are some grifters out there in every as there are 464 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: tons of white people who are not great to do 465 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: business with. 466 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, I think if we remove ourselves as 467 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: customers from the conversation, I imagine just the ease of 468 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: the business, it might be more likely to be an 469 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: easy experience with a darker skinned person than it is 470 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: a white person who, like, you know, it's the Wolf 471 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: of Wall Street shit where you're like, truly you're trained 472 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: to admire like killers and fucking sociopaths, and these business 473 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: situations that that's just not how we're brought up, you 474 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's part of the reason 475 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: Didty sort of became such a We're talking a lot 476 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: about Ditty today, but it is part of the reason 477 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: he became like sort of like this iconic black mogul 478 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: is because he made being an asshole look cool to 479 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: black people. 480 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: For the first time. 481 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: And I don't know that we had a lot of 482 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: examples of that before him. That's interesting, Like we didn't 483 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: know Russell Simmons was a piece of shit when he 484 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: was at his height. 485 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: I feel like, maybe not just Didy, I feel like 486 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: the hip hop mugal in general. I think before that, 487 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: to be successful in black business, you did have to 488 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: have a level of I'm doing this for the community. Yeah. 489 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: Even Barry Gordy, right, we thought he was not We 490 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: knew stuff about him, but we thought his main goal 491 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: was still the uplifting of the people around him. Like 492 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: there was sort of like this civil rights tint on 493 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: top of everything that he was doing. 494 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't just it wasn't just like fuck you, 495 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: I get money. 496 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the hip hop mugul truly was just like 497 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: fuck you, I get money. There is no other part of. 498 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: This right right, right, right right, And that's not and 499 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that's blanket statement to all hip hop 500 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: mugals or anything like that, but I do think the 501 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: general tone and what it meant to run a black 502 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: business had changed. 503 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'd agree with that, and. 504 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: I think that that was kind of the advent of 505 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: that was like the Bad Boy Records death row type era. 506 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: But on the flip, the Koch Brothers have always been that, right, 507 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean exactly, exactly, exactly exactly. Ford 508 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: was built on that premise of fuck you, I get money. 509 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: They have their proprieties where they pretend like that's not 510 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: the case, but it very much is built into the 511 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: systems that they've laid in front of us. And so 512 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: I imagine when you're dealing with a white business owner, 513 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: there is sort of a fuck you, I get money 514 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: ass approach to every conversation, whereas black people are a 515 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: little more like, hey, I'm just trying to keep my 516 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: sweet business afloat as strategy. 517 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: I guess in terms of white when dealing with white 518 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: people in general, they don't seem to be community based 519 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: in the same way you don't have to be right, right, 520 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: which is I mean, to me, it always rings sad, 521 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: like damn, it's just you. 522 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think there's something about it? 523 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they know any different, But I do 524 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: think that that statement all things come out in the wash. 525 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: I I think I think that they are a lonelier 526 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: group because they don't have a large like even when 527 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: people are like, I'm white, blah blah blah. I don't 528 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: know how well they do tap into that and feel that, 529 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: but maybe they do. But to me, they've always there, 530 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: always seems to be a tinge of loneliness to their endeavors. Yeah, 531 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: but I don't know, I really, I really, I don't 532 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: know what they think. That's not what this podcast is about. 533 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: Brother, Well, Alas and I hope that this answers your question. 534 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm not sure sure that we have we are the 535 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: best people to be answering this question, as neither of 536 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: us really runs a business, especially not a successful one, Allison. 537 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean we have blown outs, right, You a corporation? 538 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we both are our corporations, I guess, but but 539 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: that that means nothing other than just figuring out ways 540 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: around tax Yeah. 541 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: I think problems truly a scam. 542 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: Oh, we are being scammed. We get paid in large 543 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: lump sums that they well, relax, relax, right, No, we 544 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: get paid in briefcases full of cash. 545 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: All right. 546 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: They get cut in half and then cut in another 547 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: twenty five because of people who are employed and we're 548 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: not always sure what they're doing, and so uh, yeah, 549 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: it becomes complicated for us to just pay taxes the 550 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: same way that other people pay taxes. 551 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: I just want to refund. I want to feel that 552 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: February again. That used to be the best time of 553 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: year for me. February when the tax check came in. 554 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, remember how good that felt. 555 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've always and this is probably the wrong instinct, 556 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: I've always not looked what at the at the number 557 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: that's coming, just so I could be like surprised by 558 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: the number. 559 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: Like so I could, oh, like when you did turbo tax, 560 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: you didn't, you didn't, you didn't look. 561 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: I didn't want to like dig too deep into the 562 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: specifics because I wanted to let the check be like, ah, 563 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: you're welcome, yay. 564 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh. 565 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: I needed to know exactly how many pairs of shoes 566 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: I could have in my East Bay shopping cart online? Sure, 567 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: or wherever I was buying shoes, I had a fake 568 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Jordan's period or in the early odds that was not great. 569 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: I was on it early though. I was buying them 570 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: from China before most people were doing that. 571 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: And shout out to East Bay Rip East Bay. Yeah, man, 572 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: you surge me fucking well. Come on throughout my youth, 573 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: and I had probably bought one thing out of that. 574 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say it was an aspirational magazine. 575 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: It was like reading Forbes for young tweens. 576 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: Me and my boys during lunch time, we just just 577 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: sit there, just just looking at East Bay together and 578 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: talking about what we was gonna get that we knew 579 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: goddamn we'd get them. Choose. 580 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: I remember asking people, did you get the new East Bay? Yeah, 581 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: because goddamn, I don't know how they did it, but 582 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: they had all our addresses. Dog. 583 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: I was so excited when that new East page come on. Oh, 584 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: especially the summer one, right before school started. You had 585 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: all these plans. I never bought anything in East Bay. 586 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: I should get an east bad man. If I got 587 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: East Bay now, it's like you ever go to video 588 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: arcade as an adult and spent too much money. That 589 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: would be me an East Bay I would get. I 590 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: would get all kinds of shoes. You don't have to 591 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: go to an ventage shop to get an East Bay 592 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: magazine and just pretend to be able to order stuff 593 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: to get you know what I always yeah, there there 594 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: could put they're done. You know what I always wanted 595 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: was those moon shoes out of there. I wanted those. 596 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: You remember the biometric shoes. 597 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that had the big circle at the front of them, 598 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: and they were jump walked on your tiptoes. 599 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do remember those. They was crazy, yeah, 600 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: and there was no heel, so you had to stay 601 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: on the toe, right. 602 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: You had to stay on your tiptoes. And oh yeah, 603 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: I want I wanted Jay's. I wanted the Tim Hardaway's. 604 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: I wanted the Gary Payton's. There were a bunch of 605 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: shoes that came in that magazine that I remember distinctly, 606 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: but that fucking that, those fucking shoes. I was like, 607 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: that might be the difference maker. I'm gonna dunk by 608 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: eleventh grade or whatever. I thought. 609 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 2: That's how I felt about all their accessories. I was like, Okay, 610 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: if this season I can get the cold gear with 611 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 2: these cleats with my name on them. The cold weather 612 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: Nike gloves. You know what I mean? If I can 613 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: get all this the spat the spats, if I could 614 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: get all this ship, there's no way I don't get 615 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: go at least D two. 616 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: It's wild. 617 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: Didn't work that way, but you know, shout out to 618 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: the East Bay family. I hope you guys are doing well. 619 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're thinking about you always. 620 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 4: On tones to this episode. It really won a lot 621 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: of places. Yeah, it took a lot of turns. We 622 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: started with a light nostalgic racism about the Chinese and 623 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: found our way to the East Bay catalog and who 624 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: knows where we'll go next week. It's truly chaotic, I 625 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: think every single time, and I love it. 626 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, tune in subscribe. I'm losing steam at the end here. 627 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: I feel like when we go it's like it's like 628 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: busting or nut. When we get too serious. I need 629 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: like a recovery time I got you. Yeah, I'm asking 630 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: too much of you. Yeah, like to go round. Yeah, 631 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: don't touch me for a minute. I'll be back. I 632 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: just five minutes. Don't touch me. 633 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: Do you want to tell the people while you're while 634 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 3: you're coming yourself? Do you want to tell the people 635 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: where they can find you in What cool shit you 636 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: have going on? 637 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: Cool Guy Jokes eighty seven on Instagram. Hey, y'all, if 638 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: you live in the Denver area, I'm putting up my 639 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: own money and recording a special for myself May eighteen. 640 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: The link will be in my Instagram and I'll announce 641 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: it soon. 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