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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there, everyone in Welcome to Forward Thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that looks at the future and says from

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<v Speaker 1>my heart and from my hands, why don't people understand

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<v Speaker 1>my intentions? I'm Jonathan Strickland, I'm Laurenc and I'm Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we're going to talk a bit about maker

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<v Speaker 1>fair and invention and d I Y and inventiveness. We

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this in our last podcast that we're

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<v Speaker 1>really going to kind of concentrate on the fun, wacky

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you can see. Um, sometimes stuff that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any practical application, but I should that matter who cares? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maker affairs really all about the spirit of do it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself work, and it's also all about expression. So it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily have to be Hey, I built this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>robot that can climb trees, and maybe one day it'll

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<v Speaker 1>have this practical application. It's more about look at this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing idea I had and the implementation of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And one point I wanted to make in the video

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we should make here also is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of an artificial distinction that between the like

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<v Speaker 1>just the fun inventions and the really practical inventions. On

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, yes, in the moment, like you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to use a fire breathing wolf for

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<v Speaker 1>anything all that useful, but the process speak for yourself, Joe, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for for Lauren's robotic reenactment of Game of Thrones,

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<v Speaker 1>a fire breathing dire wolf is key. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>you specify it's a dire wolf and not just like

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<v Speaker 1>a gray wolf. Well, yeah, very important. Uh what was

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<v Speaker 1>I saying? You're saying that the practical it's the same spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we talked about in our previous podcast, the

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<v Speaker 1>two modes of invention feed into each other. Yes, tinkering

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<v Speaker 1>around with stuff just for fun can can lead into

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<v Speaker 1>some really terrific useful inventions, and the other way around. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Maker Fair usually ends up looking like a really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy art festival combined with like performance space

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<v Speaker 1>performance are There's a little bit of Burning Man kind

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<v Speaker 1>of going on there, and there really is. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>very kid friendly. They also have a host a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like at the out in San Francisco and that

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<v Speaker 1>they had like a soldering tent that you could anyone

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<v Speaker 1>could line up and go in and learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>solder stuff. There's usually um a lot of of work

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<v Speaker 1>around specific emerging technologies, like three D printing really became

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<v Speaker 1>something beyond what just the hobbyists knew about. Through maker Fair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you would see maker Fair hosting these these

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<v Speaker 1>groups that we're making their own three D printers, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I'm sure everyone who's listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this they're familiar with the idea. But just in ace,

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<v Speaker 1>a three D printer uses plastic and very very very

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<v Speaker 1>thin layers to build objects from well the ground up

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a way I'm saying. It's added manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only putting in what you need for whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>final build is. And it's really useful for stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>in manufacturing. It's useful for prototyping. Right, So you come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a design, you design it on a computer.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know if this design actually is going to

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<v Speaker 1>work in the real world. You need to make a

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<v Speaker 1>prototype of it, so you send this three D model

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<v Speaker 1>to a three D printer. Yeah, if you do it

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<v Speaker 1>with a three D printer, then you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>model in a very short amount of time and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about h an error in the

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<v Speaker 1>machining process. You know, it's engineering a sculptor or yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to sculpt it first, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it cuts out a lot of steps and it also

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<v Speaker 1>cuts down on waste, and then you can see if

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<v Speaker 1>your prototype works well. In the d I Y sphere,

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<v Speaker 1>people are using three D printers to build parts for

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff. So we've seen some really cool

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<v Speaker 1>applications of that. Not to mention, we've seen some really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting actual three D printers being built by people who

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<v Speaker 1>show up at maker Fair and they say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's our three D printer. We designed it this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. There are a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 1>working on open source projects that with the goal being

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately you have a printer that can more or

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<v Speaker 1>less print itself or at least most parts. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't print itself assembled, but it can prints to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. You know, in most cases, what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with three D printers is that you're printing out

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<v Speaker 1>pieces that you would then assemble into a final overall

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<v Speaker 1>piece moving parts. Yeah, or just as very inexpensive three

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<v Speaker 1>D printers, some of them, you know, like around three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars or under run around there. Yeah, that's crazy three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we're talking about stuff that used to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty thousand fifty dollar range. Yeah. Now, the ones

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at maker Fair that are three hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the really basic ones. So they're they're small,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to get the level of size

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<v Speaker 1>or resolution you get with a bigger, more expensive printer. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the layers that you can do it for that amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money, that blows my mind, right, And there there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of different examples of stuff. Now I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually been to a maker Fair event, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>one that was hosted here in Atlanta at Georgia Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a much smaller scale than the ones you see

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and San Francisco. There's even there's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one that happens in Detroit and around the world too.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got them globally now, right, yeah, so it's beyond

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<v Speaker 1>just uh, those those cities. The one here in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>was again a smaller scale, but it was and it

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly dominated by robotics, which not a big surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech. Yeah, that's an engineering school, so there was

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit from them, though, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff I've seen from maker Fair has been robotics oriented, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the steel wolf that can blete fires, wireless control, robot giraffe,

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<v Speaker 1>robotic bartender, mixed drinks for you. Yeah, there's the walking pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see? This is the walking pod? Was? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a moving spider like device. It's essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>pod is large enough to camp in, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was sleeping in while he originally took it

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<v Speaker 1>to burning Man, but he also took it to make

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<v Speaker 1>it fair. Um. It has uh, I think twelve legs,

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<v Speaker 1>so six in front, six in the back, and it

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<v Speaker 1>moves fairly slowly, but it uses to ninety volt half

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<v Speaker 1>horsepower electric motors to move its legs and it crawls

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<v Speaker 1>along and looks like it's the stuff out of Nightmares.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty interesting. Um. I've seen also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different sculptures and kinetic sculptures and flame producing sculptures.

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<v Speaker 1>Flames are really popular and Mega Fair. Anything that can

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<v Speaker 1>shoot fire automatically gets a big response from the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you one of my favorite things I've seen? Please? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it the Architect act singing Tesla coil. I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen these in person. Architect has has traveled around,

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<v Speaker 1>They've they appeared on one of those, um like America's

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<v Speaker 1>Got Talent type shows. I remember they were on one

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<v Speaker 1>of those as well. But Architect, Yeah, they used Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>coils to generate this high voltage electricity and then they

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<v Speaker 1>can create these audible frequencies of electricity and change the

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<v Speaker 1>pitch of that based upon the voltage. Music. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the key is that they're using solid

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<v Speaker 1>state Tesla coils, which you can manipulate digitally. Right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can program a synthesizer or any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of digital music producer to communicate with that Tesla coil,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get it to spark a note, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can program in any kind of song you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, and when it sparks, you hear the sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in Atlanta, they appeared at a Dragon Con a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, and uh, they quickly won over the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd by playing famous sign fiction themes like the Doctor Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there's and if you wanted you get in the cage. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the cage that. They didn't do these

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<v Speaker 1>versions right. Yeah, they've got a they've got a fair

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<v Speaker 1>day cage that they'll put in the center of this.

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<v Speaker 1>A fair day cage, of course, being something that will

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<v Speaker 1>that will conduct electricity around an object rather than frying

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<v Speaker 1>it directly. Um, and that's an oversimplification, right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same sort of thing that people have suggested

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<v Speaker 1>movie theaters installed so that you can't get any cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone reception within a movie theater. That just could put

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<v Speaker 1>the whole movie theater within a fair day cage and

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't have to worry about people checking their

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<v Speaker 1>phones all the time. Actually, yeah, I would totally approve

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<v Speaker 1>of that, other than you know, in case of emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, so they'll have this fair day cage

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<v Speaker 1>up on stage and they can let so let a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the audience go up and stand in it

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<v Speaker 1>and and have all of the electricity sparks from the

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla coils going directly onto the surface of the case.

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<v Speaker 1>They've also created special suits that you can wear that

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<v Speaker 1>Now granted they don't let audience members volunteer and wear this,

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<v Speaker 1>that they have had a member of architect wearing this

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<v Speaker 1>suit where they it looks like they are shooting lightning

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<v Speaker 1>from their hands. I've seen them use that in particular

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<v Speaker 1>for a moving rendition of the Imperial March from Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Empiress tricks back, which makes sense, right, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can show you the video after this. All this is

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, by the way, Just go on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>check out Architect. I'm sorry, I want musical Palpatine in

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<v Speaker 1>my life so much. That's so, that's at I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you the link so you can at least move. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the lightning, the force lightning, that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's caught up. Uh yeah, No, you didn't mention before

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about force lightning. No, you're right, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention force lightning, but that was exactly what I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking. Yeah, yeah, just like I was like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about Palpatine. I was just thinking about the empire, right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was thinking of the Emperor in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, that is that is the case. So but

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<v Speaker 1>they they and I'm one episode, are not one episode.

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<v Speaker 1>One performance that Architect was at the had one of

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<v Speaker 1>our distant colleagues join in, and uh and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that there their um profile shot up after this because

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<v Speaker 1>grant Amhara of the MythBusters was on stage and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one put in the Faraday cage during the

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<v Speaker 1>architect performance. And actually grand Amahara, he's a good example

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the people who often participates in these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of events. So does Adam Savage. He's actually done

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<v Speaker 1>several like keynote addresses at maker Fairs to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of invention and making and this idea of inventing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They both of them are known for their inventions. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Granda Mahara is probably better known for building robots for

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<v Speaker 1>robot battle type things, but Adam Savage has done. If

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<v Speaker 1>you do an Adam Savage search for Adam Savage and

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<v Speaker 1>Maker Fair, you're gonna see a whole bunch of different

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<v Speaker 1>talks that he's given and are really inspiring about the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of making, the spirit of going like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to put this thing together. How does it do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. He says, I want everyone to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and fail big, fail better. The idea being that

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<v Speaker 1>don't let someone telling you that you know the thing

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do is impossible stop you from doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know you don't really know it's impossible until

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<v Speaker 1>you've given it your absolute best, and even then, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you might you could prove it wrong. So um

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. For for the generalized record, the

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<v Speaker 1>maker Fair debuted in two thousands six, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, and and as we have said, has

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<v Speaker 1>gone global since then. It gets bigger every year. I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of our colleagues out in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>cover this every single year when when they three and

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<v Speaker 1>uh like Texilla and all those kids have some really great,

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<v Speaker 1>really great videos and coverage. One of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of it was not really it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even a huge head turning invention. You know. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a fire breathing wolf for a giant walking pod.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a concept that really just encourages that whole

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<v Speaker 1>sense of innovation and an invention, which is the nerdy Derby.

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<v Speaker 1>So they the nerdy Derby. So, uh, Joe, were you

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<v Speaker 1>ever a cub scout? Yeah? You do? You remember the

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<v Speaker 1>Pinewood Derby races. I did not participate in those, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're talking about. You make a box

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<v Speaker 1>car that has no engine, rolls down a hill. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a slot car race essentially, so, but it has very

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<v Speaker 1>specific rules like your your your car has to fit

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<v Speaker 1>within a certain set of parameters. It can't be too small,

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be too light, it has to fit within

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<v Speaker 1>a certain nitro no nitro yeah yeah no no no

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<v Speaker 1>uh oil slicks or weird spy hunter technology, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly it's turtle shells or stars. I think we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>all of the variations now. But it has. The point

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<v Speaker 1>is it has rules. Nerdy Derby does not, So nerdy

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<v Speaker 1>Derby's like twisted metal up in there. Well not really,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's still it's still not although there's no rule

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<v Speaker 1>about I mean, it's still a slot car race, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's still you're still putting it in a little,

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<v Speaker 1>uh predetermined track. So the goal is still to get

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<v Speaker 1>down to the end of that track faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>competing cars. But you can use heat seeking missiles technically,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose so um. I don't know how you would

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<v Speaker 1>implement that in a way that would be safe. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can't do anything that would kill anybody. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called no rules manage your car building, Mr Semantics.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, it's it's it's done out of n y

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<v Speaker 1>u H, it's out of their interactive telecommunications program. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>and UM, the you can either design and build your

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<v Speaker 1>car and then bring it there to race, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to, you can just show up and

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<v Speaker 1>build your car while you're there and then race it.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw some really interesting designs in a video showing

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<v Speaker 1>it off, and uh and I like this idea because again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like a huge invention that captures everyone's imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like continuing to uh to to inspire this

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<v Speaker 1>innovative spirit and others. UM, probably the best invention I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>at least as far as I'm concerned. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of great ones, amazing inventions, but the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw where I thought I want to try

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<v Speaker 1>this out was actually created by a bunch of high

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<v Speaker 1>school students, which already blew my mind. It was high

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<v Speaker 1>school students who built a flight simulator that has two

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<v Speaker 1>axes of movement and three sixty degrees of freedom within

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<v Speaker 1>those two axes, meaning that you can rotate in essentially

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<v Speaker 1>every direction, so you can do barrel rolls, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can do loop the loops in this thing, and all

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<v Speaker 1>combinations thereof. And it's called the Viper. The reason it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Viper is it's inspired by Bell Star Galactica,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's named after the ship, the vie, the type

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<v Speaker 1>of ship in the Bell Start Galactica, the Viper, and

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<v Speaker 1>so uh they developed everything about this flight simulator, including

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they used tools that already pre existed. They

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<v Speaker 1>used an open sore flight simulator to be the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of the flight simulator part, but they had to program

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<v Speaker 1>their own skin on top of it. In their own uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to to map the movements of this physical

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<v Speaker 1>flight simulator to the game they have. Are all these

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<v Speaker 1>are Dueno modules that are controlling basic elements of this,

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<v Speaker 1>including uh, set dressing. They created set dressing of all

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<v Speaker 1>these blinky lights to give you more of a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that you're inside the cockpit of a spaceship. And they

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<v Speaker 1>use three computer displays to be your your windows, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, it's like you're looking out into space

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a joystick and a thruster that are

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<v Speaker 1>your your actual physical controls and a control panel that

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<v Speaker 1>lights up so it looks like again that you're inside

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<v Speaker 1>the cockpit of a space spaceship. And uh, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>high school students, like the guy who was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Um, the flight simulator was in eighth grade. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>high school students who have built something that when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, I thought I would pay good money to

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<v Speaker 1>have a run in that point. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>take that for a flight. But that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spirit we're talking about. Is this idea of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I were back when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone had told me that, you know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>get with a bunch of my friends and build a

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<v Speaker 1>flight simulator that had all these degrees of movement and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have thought they were crazy. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have said, I'm really busy watching cartoon sushi. Can can

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<v Speaker 1>you get back to me later? Yeah, So my high

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<v Speaker 1>school experience was different because I was thinking tiny tunes. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>similar similar experience, just different different content. Uh. But there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of other projects that I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>that I like. I like the pancake Bought. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys see this? I think that familiar Pancake Bought was

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<v Speaker 1>made out of you guys know that. You know Lego

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<v Speaker 1>makes these kits where you can get robotics. Yeah, it's got.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes with a a programmable module that you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can use. It has a very simple computer programming

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<v Speaker 1>language that comes with it, or you can even use

0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.600
<v Speaker 1>more complex languages. If you want to think what tiny

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<v Speaker 1>remote control planetary rover made from a Lego Mindstorms kit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. We've we've actually saw some robot battles

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<v Speaker 1>here in the office during a Christmas party that were

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<v Speaker 1>run by these these um these modules. Well, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Miguel Valezuela built a Lego robot that makes pancakes. And

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<v Speaker 1>what it does. What it does, there's a griddle that

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<v Speaker 1>it is built around, so there's a griddle in the center,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have a moving arm that holds a

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze bottle of pancake batter, and the moving arm can

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze the bottle, uh with just enough force to get

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the amount of pancake batter you need to make

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<v Speaker 1>whatever kind of pancake you want. And you can program

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<v Speaker 1>different patterns in so you can make pancakes of different shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a video where he was making them

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<v Speaker 1>essentially in Mickey Mouse shapes, but then also in other

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<v Speaker 1>more complex shapes, and it was really entertaining and that

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<v Speaker 1>was just a cute little project that was the you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>no real practical use. You would be a way easier

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<v Speaker 1>for you to make a pancake just by putting batter

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<v Speaker 1>directly on the griddle. In a way, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the same sort of spirit that we see

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<v Speaker 1>in Rube Goldberg devices. Right well, I mean some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things though they seem kind of silly, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have a surprising functionality. Like um, I mentioned the robot

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<v Speaker 1>bartender earlier, So okay, you can make your own drinks whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It seems like it's just for fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that's cool I noticed about the robot bartender

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<v Speaker 1>is it can make you a drink with the correct

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<v Speaker 1>proportions of everything in any size you want, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can have a one ounce Manhattan or a

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<v Speaker 1>or a seven ounce Manhattan, and it's all the same

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<v Speaker 1>to the machine. It's just you know, you're saying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>it's plugging in mathematically the proportions of what it's serving

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<v Speaker 1>to you exactly, so you can make yourself an extremely

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<v Speaker 1>tiny or an extremely large cocktail. Uh. And it does

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<v Speaker 1>the same no matter what whereas people are using these

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, oh and I have a shot glass,

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<v Speaker 1>and right right, I need one part of this to

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<v Speaker 1>four parts of that to two parts of this other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas this thing can do all the math and make it,

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<v Speaker 1>make it like the mathematically perfect cocktail, right right, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you put that in say an industrial kitchen or

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<v Speaker 1>or in some kind of chemistry lab, then that could

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<v Speaker 1>have definite applications beyond getting people drank. Yeah, oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see if people could even make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money getting people drank off of it. Right. They

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<v Speaker 1>put one of these in a t G I Fridays

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<v Speaker 1>and it's serving up drinks three times fast. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, it's it's kind of it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the alcoholic version of those crazy soft drink dispensers that

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you can get now, where you get the hundred different

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<v Speaker 1>flavors out of one soft drink dispenser. Um. Yeah, suicide machine, Yes,

0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly, by the way, suicide For those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, we're talking about the kind of drink

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<v Speaker 1>where you just mix everything together to get whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was that the Yeah, but do they all because now

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<v Speaker 1>when I hear suicide machine, I think drama and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're both joyful. Yeah, that's true. At least Binder

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>seemed to get a kick out of both. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. There are other great examples. Oh there's one

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<v Speaker 1>that was more of on the artistic side than on

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<v Speaker 1>the them mechanical engineering side. And I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your your your reaction to this, although really to get

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<v Speaker 1>a true reaction you have to watch the video to

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<v Speaker 1>see how disturbing this is. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>can paint a picture of how creepy I found this

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>particular exhibit to be. But it's called the I Want

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>To Project by I Wu Kong who created this interactive exhibit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the exhibit what does is it pulls in Twitter Uh, well,

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 1>tweets I guess you would say, uh that have either

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase I want to or I have to included

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<v Speaker 1>in them. So it just it doesn't search essentially on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter every so often and pulls in tweets that have

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<v Speaker 1>these phrases in it. You get robotic voice that reads

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<v Speaker 1>this out. There's actually a monitor that shows this in

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<v Speaker 1>really low resolution the actual tweets. So think of like

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<v Speaker 1>a like nineteen eighties era computer where you get that

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<v Speaker 1>really primitive looking text, you know, the low rest and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a robotic voice that kind of hearkens back to

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<v Speaker 1>that as well, and green text. No, it's actually light blue,

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<v Speaker 1>light blue text, um twit sure. But it also has

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<v Speaker 1>this little army of tiny little robots that all look

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<v Speaker 1>identical that are are on uh there, each on a

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<v Speaker 1>stationary little pedestal, so they don't walk around or anything,

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>but they all look kind of like, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a puppet would if you just let go

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<v Speaker 1>of the strings and it kind of slumps over. So

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<v Speaker 1>imagine all these little slumped over figures. The machine reads

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<v Speaker 1>out the tweet and then all the figures slowly move

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<v Speaker 1>around for about ten seconds in kind of what looks

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pretty random fast and then they stopped

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<v Speaker 1>moving until it reads out the next one, and then

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>they all move and then they stopped moving. The idea

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>behind this was actually that cong was saying, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say I want to or you say I have to,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of that is an internal thought versus the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pressures you received from external sources like society

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and culture, like I want to get married. How much

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<v Speaker 1>of that is from actually you, like you as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to what society expects you to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this idea was every time it says I want

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<v Speaker 1>to it's or it says, I have to you have

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<v Speaker 1>this crowd of robots that all move together, suggesting that

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe this isn't something that actually originates from within yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather is something that is influenced by and that

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh boy, you know, I know it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the nightmares of Day McKean. I mean, honestly, that

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>sounds terrifying. As you know, my sister is a professional puppeteer,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've seen some really kind of in a native

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy theater that's all puppetry based, and some of the

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff is really effective, especially the things that kind of

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>make you feel disassociated with what it is to be human.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just a sort of odd, uncanny valley kind

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of feeling. This is what that that kind of gave

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>me this feeling here. And the robots, by the way,

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>they don't look like people. They look like little robots.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they don't you know, the heads are more

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<v Speaker 1>rectangular than round, you know that kind of thing. Humanity

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is an illusion. Yeah, yeah, so, but it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting kid. It was. It was very

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<v Speaker 1>much more of an artistic expression than um, you know,

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a feat of engineering, not that it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be both. No, that's interesting. So what is the future

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff like this, the sort of the home design,

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<v Speaker 1>the d I Y, the hobbyist inventure and inventor mentality. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's interesting that um a year after

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>maker Fares really got off the ground. Um, And in

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven, indie go go was founded, and a

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>couple years later, in two thousand nine, Kickstarter was founded. Yeah.

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And these organizations are businesses, I suppose are are very

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>much into promoting the work of people like this and

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and making it financially feasible. Yeah, promoting or enabling. Yeah. There.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of stats here just about the

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of amazing success people can have with crowdfunding. One

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>of the things I found on Kickstarter was one of

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>their highest earning things, the Oculus Rift. I've talked about

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>that before. That's the the headset that allows you to

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>get sort of a three D first person view of

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world. So it's kind of like what we think

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of when we hear the phrase virtual reality. And Jonathan,

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.399
<v Speaker 1>you've used one of these, and I did. It was

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. It was really cool. I mean, it was

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>amazing there. And the Oculus Rift is One of the

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>things that the promise is that it will be able

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to work with multiple systems, so that it's being talked

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>about being used for gaming. Yeah, mostly for gaming, Like

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you could see it being used for other applications as well,

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but as a gaming element, I could see it being

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>really cool. I mean, I had fun playing in a

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in a fairly primitive world. It was. It was designed

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>so that it would give you this experience of being

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 1>in a you know, this first person perspective, but it

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a um like a graphically rich world. But

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the Oculus Rift can do that, so you know, imagine

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>being able to run around. One of the top games

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like the one I want to play in is Skyrim

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanna or LD Scrolls I want to run around

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and gorgeous if yeah, if you ever play any of

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>these these games on on the current generation or the

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>next generation systems, the level of detail and the artistry

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that goes into level design and world design is really impressive.

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's one thing to see that from you know,

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a third person perspective behind a character, or even a

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>first person perspective, but you're still looking at a screen.

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>It's another thing to feel completely immersed in that world,

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and you develop a level of appreciation for the skill

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of the artists who designed this thing that goes well

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>beyond just wow, that's a pretty game. So the Oculus

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Rift on Kickstarter crowd crowdfunded right, asked for two dollars,

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>got two million, four hundred and thirty seven thousand, four

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty nine dollars. Another another simple, little little

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>tech project, the pebble E paper Watch Minds on order,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>huge hit. They asked for a hundred thousand dollars, got

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>ten point two million. Yeah, part of that was that,

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way Kickstarter works is you know, for

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>for someone who creates a project, they're supposed to create

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>rewards that go along with that project. So if you

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>contribute at a certain level, you should expect to receive

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a certain reward for your for your investment, your contribution.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Really it's not an investment. They're very careful that they

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>call it that um. So one of the things we

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>started to see is that for for groups that are

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 1>putting together an actual product, not just some sort of project,

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I wouldn't say that a play for example,

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to produce a play, I think of

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that as a project, not a product. People fun stuff

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like that, ye, music and theater. And but if it's

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>if it's anything that's a physical product of some sort

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>or even a digital product of some sort, then generally

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they include that as one of the reward levels. Right. Well,

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in the case of pebble, uh, and in the case

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of most of these, you would get at a certain level,

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you would get a a one of these products, right

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>and uh, usually it ends up being a discounted price

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>as to compared to what the suggested retail ice will

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>be of the finished product. So it gives an incentive

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to people to back a project. You know. Not only

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>do people get the satisfaction of backing something that they

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>think is really awesome and they want to see it happen,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>but then they can also get paid basically, yeah, pre

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>order of something for less money than what it will

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>be when it's out, you know, on store shelves. Yeah.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So I think crowdfunding has been a big hit and

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is going to continue to make UM designing technology, especially

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>for the little guy, UM an easier thing. Now, one

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>thing I do want to comment on is that I

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>think there is started to be and you all might

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>agree some backlash against crowdfunding because of things like people

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>funding projects and then not getting the stuff that they

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>were promised. There are there are a lot of reasons

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it's been abused, I think a little bit, and and

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>abuse is maybe a strong word, but um, you know,

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>by by the kinds of people who could easily get

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>funding for their project X from other sources and it

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>winds up flooding, you know, kind of kind of artificially

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>inflating the market in a way that I think takes

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>attention away from there are smaller people who might not

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>be able to get their funding out. There's some people who,

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>let's say that you're a person who has an unsuccessful campaign.

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those. I I did a campaign on

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter that failed to fund. Uh. There are some people

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>among that group who say, who blame large like high

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:35.719
<v Speaker 1>profile projects that already have a crazy following for taking

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>away money from smaller projects, as if it's a zero

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>sum game. I don't think it's a zero sum game.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Complicated than that. Absolutely, I don't blame I don't blame

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the fact that my Kickstarter project didn't take off on

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Veronica Mars movie was funded. Like

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's Kristen Bell's fault. And if if I

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>ever run into her, that's fine. You'll like miss Bell.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Your success has has made it clear that my failure

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is even greater than I think. No, not at all,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>not at all, um. But you know that's one one aspect.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Then they're there are other ones like uh. One that

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was a little controversial, which is not a big surprise

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because these guys deal in controversy all the time is

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the Penny Arcade Kickstarter. They're only Kickstarter campaign in order

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>to uh run Penny Arcade ad free for a year.

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think was the full like if they hit all

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>their stretch goals. It was a full year of Penny

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Arcade with no ads on the page. And there there

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>were people who said, that's not really what kickstarters for

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>now that's that may be true, but Kickstarter has to

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>approve every project before it's it's featured on Kickstarter, or

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>else you don't get a project. So ultimately, someone at

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter said, this is a perfectly acceptable use of our service.

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And and whether that's because having folks like Penny Arcade,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>an Amanda Palmer and Kristen bell Um promoting Kickstarter or

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>whether it's really the most appropriate project for the site

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>is an argument that I will not make here because

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it would You can also if you're if you're really cynical,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>then you say, well, the white Kickstarter makes its money

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>is by getting a percentage of however much the person raises,

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and if it's a high profile project, they're going to

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>possibly raise way more money, which means more money for

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the company. That's if you're being cynical criticisms aside. I

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>do think crowdfunding represents a lot of potential develop Yeah,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't We wouldn't have seen the game console, which

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>as we're recording this podcast, it's gonna be a couple

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of weeks before this comes out. But as we're recording it,

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just now hitting retailers and has already sold out.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>But the reason why that exists at all is because

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter funded it. And that's another example of overfunding where

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I think they got like eight million dollars from Kickstarter

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were asking for a hundred thousand. It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah,

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>As of right now on indiego Go, the skin of

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>doo Scout, which is a non invasive biofeedback um It

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>can take your temperature, in your heart rate, and a

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of other bio signals from you within ten

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>seconds from holding it up to your forehead with your

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>thumb and forefinger. Um. And and it's it's being funded

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>on Indiego go right now. And I think it's you know,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it's being called a triquarter. How crazy is that? Like?

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>How and it's you know, it's it's definitely along those lines. Here.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Here's the question, if you've got a triquarter, why do

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you really need a doctor? Well, you know, because you

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>can you can diagnose yourself from home, or you can

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you can say, oh, hey, I'm totally sick from home,

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you need to go to a doctor. That's

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of like asking. That's asking like if you've got

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>web m D, why would you ever go to a doctor?

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe web MD. I'm gonna have to start saying this

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>every every podcast. You gotta go on the corner and

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>sit out the rest of this one. Um, Lauren take

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the axe away from him. Uh X, it's not that's

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>just a joke. Lawrence had the X the whole time. Um. Yeah, So,

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I agree that cloud funding is definitely definitely

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>something that will enable future tinkerers to really kind of

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>indulge in this, in this innovative spirit. And not all,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>not all projects are going to be ones that are

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>going to require crowdfunding. But I think it's a good tool.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to enable a lot of stuff.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm sorry, go ahead, Well, I was going

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to mention another thing, but did you have something I

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say that you made the point in

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>our video that also that that the information on just

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the basics inventing and tinkering are out there. You've got

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of websites that tell you how to do

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>various projects, and they can go all the way from

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>beginning to you know, the basic elements of soldering and

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and and electronics and welding and all this kind of stuff,

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>all the way up to advanced techniques where you're talking

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>about fine tuning a really intricate project. Even software online

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and also products like the Raspberry Pie are making things

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like this very easy for people. In fact, that the

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>whole purpose of the Raspberry Pie was the guy who

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 1>created that he saw that there was a decreasing amount

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of understanding around basic programming skills because our our technology

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>is getting more and more sophisticated and complex, which means

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>that there's a higher barrier to learning how it works. Right,

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>when you had a very simple computer, relatively speaking, it

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>was easier to learn how it worked. It still was

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>not like, oh, well, you know together. It's also cheaper

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to build your own in those days than it was

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to buy one pre made, so well, depending upon how

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you're what you're shopping for, that can still be true today.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Another way of saying it, I would say it's probably

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>easier to learn basic than it is to learn C

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>plus plus or you know. Well, sure there's that too,

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>but so so the Raspberry Pie. As you developed complexity

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and power, you also developed difficulty, right and well. And

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the Raspberry pies purpose was to create a very basic

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>computer on a chip that people who were interested in

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>programming could play with and learn the basics. Uh. And

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it would be a very uh easy entry level way

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of getting into programming. And I've seen some crazy mods

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>for Raspberry Pies, like you know, the basic ones, just

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a chip that you can then hook up to a

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>display and then some other things like a keyboard or

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a mouse. Uh, and that's it. But there are people

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>who have made their own custom cases for it. There

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>are people who are using them in robotics. The same

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is true with the Arduino micro controllers, which have

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>been used in a lot of different really cool d

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I Y projects. So yeah, the the the tools have

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>become uh much more accessible for a much larger audience.

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>So I expect the future of tinkering just to go crazy.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see some really creative projects. Yeah. The big

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>tool I think here really is three D printers also,

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>and the reason that's a big tool, and I want

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>to be careful to say what I'm not saying. I'm

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not saying three D printers are going to turn everybody's

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>house into a factory that where you're just not going

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to be printing around clothes and food and tables. Johnny

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Johnny put a scratch on the table, so let's just

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>print a new one or especially more complex machinery. But

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I think is really interesting. I was

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>watching a video is somebody made uh for maker Fair,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were selling a very cheap, very basic three

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>D printer that they've made that was a new low

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>cost option, And what they said was they wanted to

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.959
<v Speaker 1>make tools for makers. And I thought, oh, that's really

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting because a three D printer is kind of the

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>perfect tool for a maker. It allows rapid prototyping, like

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>we were saying earlier, in a way that that other

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>things don't. You know, if you need a a specially

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>shaped molded part to go on the thing you're building, well,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>how would you get that before? I mean you'd probably

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have to like send off to somewhere to make you

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a batch of these. It take longer, be more expensive.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>With a three D printer, you can prototype rapidly in

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>your own home, right, Yeah, which is which which makes

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<v Speaker 1>designing that much easier, right because then you know, Adam Savage,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, you know you say fail big and

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<v Speaker 1>fail better. Well, part of that is this the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we have created we being you know, engineers have

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<v Speaker 1>created these amazing tools that allow us to try lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different stuff in quick successions. So if you do

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<v Speaker 1>a design and you realize after you've created it and

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've got all the parts that it doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>work the way you intended, and that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>tweak that design, it's a lot easier to do that

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<v Speaker 1>now than it was before. So you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about going through the whole prototype process from beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to end, still not knowing if it's going to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and going and making a very wasteful amount of of

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<v Speaker 1>byproduct in the process. So I mean, all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is really pointing towards this amazing future of tinkering and

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<v Speaker 1>expression that I cannot wait to see. Well, that wraps

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<v Speaker 1>up this discussion about maker fare inventing d I y,

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<v Speaker 1>if any of you guys out there have amazing projects

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<v Speaker 1>that you've worked on. I know that I've I've encountered

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<v Speaker 1>listeners before who have really gotten into this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>scene and they've made some phenomenal stuff. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>participated in these sort of projects, let us know. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to see it, we want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll we'll be happy to mention you on on forward

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking because we've got a real healthy interest in this

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<v Speaker 1>and respect for everybody who really participates. To get in

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<v Speaker 1>There's some great stuff out there that I think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys will find really entertaining and we will talk to

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