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Hass Is 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:44.400 is Hospitality, Good Afternoon, Stealer Nation. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.400 It is the Drive on location live from St. Vincent College, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.880 Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson, all part of our ongoing training 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.319 camp coverage here on your twenty four to seven home 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.840 of the Black and of the Gold, Happy Sunday here 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.920 on the program, Matt, and what is our penn ultimate 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.400 show of this twenty twenty. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.000 Yeah, how about that training camp. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.119 We have got three hours with you today, three hours 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.720 with you tomorrow, and then that's a bow on our 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.160 public portion of what we do out here. The team 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.800 will have like a walkthrough type thing on Tuesday here before. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.160 Some media stuff, right, and I think. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.920 Some media stuff tomorrow are on Tuesday. Pardon me, But 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.040 in terms of practices today, in the books, tomorrow the 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.560 last one in terms of the public viewership, and we 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.119 are really down the home stretch here. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.840 Matt, Yeah, we are. And it's been a good experience 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.560 as usual, and I'm also ready to wrap it up 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.959 as usual and get into real games, you know, more 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.600 consistently and all those things. But I feel like we've 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.399 learned a lot. Practice was I had to leave practice 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.560 about ten or fifteen minutes earlier today, but just chat 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.600 with people at lunch, they said it got really physical 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.760 at the end. And they also said, I don't think 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.360 that's a coincidence with the Landon Roberts first practice with 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.680 the team, And maybe he didn't get the memo that 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.520 we don't hit around here anymore. Yeah, that's a good point. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.720 Maybe he came in thinking that this was still the 0:01:58.760 --> 0:01:59.480 two years ago. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.200 Yeah, right, it's just a lot of that. Yeah, like 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.400 saw we do it in La Trobe, you know, so 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.080 set the towne. But now it looked like a decent practice. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.120 Majority of it was teaching stuff and walk through ish 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.400 stuff and all that good stuff as well. But team seems, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.040 you know, knock on wood, relatively healthy. Max of Honachur 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.280 wasn't out there today. I didn't love seeing that, you know, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.240 because coach McCarthy had said a while back that they 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.640 were shooting for last Monday. I'm not sure how to 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.440 take that, but I'm sure they are siding on the 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.079 side of precaution for all these guys, especially the high 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.079 value dudes like a Han. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.760 Yeah, it's you know, it's I shouldn't say funny, but 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.680 it's coincidence. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:38.920 Matt. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.160 We actually got a few tweets about that from people 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.640 right from people earlier today, essentially like, hey, is it 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.200 time to start worrying about Max yet? 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:46.959 Yeah? 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.560 And I don't know if the answer is yes or no. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.160 I do know though, that the longer this plays out, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.000 the more difficult it's going to be for him to 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.880 potentially be the Steelers starting right tackle on Day one. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:58.840 Yeah. Yeah. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.200 And then once you get into the core to the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.000 regular season, I think it becomes even harder to usurp 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.200 somebody on the depth chart. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:04.880 Oh that question. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.600 Once you're in games, and as you've outlined, you really 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.760 only have kind of two you and I have talked 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.400 this to death in the past, but there's way less 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.040 time in the week than people think. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.000 Oh yeah, yeah, you've got really grooming guys and making roster, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.400 you know, making changes. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.920 You've got really kind of two full practices in a 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.720 week and that's about it, you know, Wednesday and Thursday, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.160 and yeah, you do some stuff on Friday and things 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.799 like that, but the practices in season. Obviously, you can 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.000 only have so many padded practices per year. I think 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.680 it's like seventeen or something like that. And so I 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.520 don't know what to think of Max for this injury 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.680 as it relates to the long term, or what it 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.880 means for his entire year anything like that. But I 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.800 do know that the longer and longer we see him 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.880 on the sidelines, the harder and harder it's going to 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.000 be for him to get on the field in the 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:50.600 regular season. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.760 Yeah, and again, up until now, I've kind of looked 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.600 at it like, I'm not worried. They're just signing for coffin, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.800 you know, and there were some off days here and 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.320 they too, and you know, no reason to push him. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.440 Blah blah blah. I just kind of thought today after 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.640 just chatting with folks at Sharkey's last night. It was like, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.600 I bet today he's back at it and he comes 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.720 out and he's just you know, he's got a dozen 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.200 of pads on, just has jersey on. I'm like, eh, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.400 I guess I'm starting to worry just a smidge, you know, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.680 and I want to, but I'm just thought to be 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:21.560 done by now. Yeah. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.359 Same here, And you know again, Mike McCarthy kind of 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.680 told us last week that he was hopeful he'd be 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.599 back at practice on Monday, right, and this is Sunday. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.520 It's been almost a week later, and we still haven't seen. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.320 That's why coaches don't put tact. That's why you say 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.800 that was kind of a rookie mistake by coach McCarthy. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.360 I think I think you just say day to day 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.719 or you know, soon a week or two, or something 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.840 a little more vague. Yeah. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.400 Yeah, But obviously that that continues to be a storyline 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.880 that we will monitor and keep an eye on, and 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.880 if there are any updates or new news around that, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.720 of course, we will make sure to share it and 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.640 discuss it with you. But as Matt mentioned, physical more 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.040 physical practice today, pretty fortunate inter some weather elements. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.720 Matt, they had a I thought, for sure we're getting 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:03.359 rained out today. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.320 For sure. Yeah, when I woke up this morning, and 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:06.840 it's funny, this is kind of what I do during 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.800 training camp time. You wake up and you kind of 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:09.800 check the weather right. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.239 Away, and especial if you're at home, especially when should 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.280 I leave the house to get hear and exactly right. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.000 And I went home last night and back today. I 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.039 did just a day trip yesterday, and and so first 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.520 thing I do when I wake up this morning is 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.599 check that weather. And I'm like, oh man, I don't 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:25.880 know if there's I don't know if there's gonna be 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:26.680 public practice. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.120 And then we were talking about last night sharky just 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.280 like there's there's no way. It looks like a huge 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:32.440 storm's coming the whole time. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.680 And then funny enough, about twenty minutes after that, once again, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.920 you text myself and Bob Labriola in a group chat 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.360 and you're like, hey, Labs, what's the word we get 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.120 we getting practice in here today or what? 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.120 Because he's in here doing the morning show and then 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.240 you know he's gonna be dowed in for all the 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.479 practice stuff. So he's the guy that talked to yes. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.640 And they did end up getting practice in a little 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.359 more physical, Like Matt said, some some pushing and some 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.839 shoving and some some exchange words at the end of practice. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.840 And its funny, as you mentioned, Elannon Roberts was in 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.279 the all that some of him and Mason McCormick some 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.960 of those competitive juices going. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.720 On, and it's I'm fine with it. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.320 I'm fine with it too. In fact, I think you 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:12.360 need there's a very fine line between fights and just angst, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 you know, Yeah, and as long as you're just on 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.480 the side of angst in competition, and anyone who's ever 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.120 played a sport knows sometimes you just lose your head 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.159 for a moment and it's not a big deal. You 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.360 move on, next play, next series, next rep, whatever, and 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.360 it's no big deal as long as it stays on 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.080 that side and doesn't get to the again, that very 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.080 clear fine line that we all know is taking things 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.760 too far. I'm fine with it too, especially in what's 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.240 been certainly a tamer training camp to this point than 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:40.760 we've seen in past years. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.560 And pushing and shoving and things. I mean, how many 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.320 guys have really gotten injured on a practice field, you know, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.360 as long as you don't punch them on the face 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.680 mask and break your hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something insane. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.800 Yeah, And it was. It seemed to just be some 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.279 you know, some exchanging of words and a little pushing 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.200 and shoving. It was funny, though, Matt, because Alanna Roberts 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.680 and Mason McCormick I had one of those oh I've 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.640 seen this fish before type moments where I feel like 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.799 those two, you know, when Mason was breaking into the league, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.920 those two both tone setters. That's a very good way 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.120 to put it. It's nothing personal, they just that's the 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:15.000 way they play the game. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.800 Atlanta robertson the reason they're here exactly. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.760 You need those kind of guys on your team. Alana 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.760 Roberts ain't gonna take any crap from anybody, and I'll 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.640 let you know about it. Mason McCormick ain't gonna take 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.520 any crap from anybody. He'll let you know about it. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.280 And uh yeah, a little little little, you know, a 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.800 little juice flying around at the at the end of 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.440 practice here today on this Sunday, because remember Matt, I 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.520 told people yesterday, never miss a Sunday show. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.760 You never know, you never know. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.120 Sure enough, some sparks flying in practice today, but able 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.760 to get that work in and tomorrow, Matt last practice 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.000 that will have a chance you and I to see 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.960 these guys really other than the preseason games the rest 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:54.280 of the way. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.920 Yeah, I mean, for our purpose is yours and I mine, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.000 we're not gonna go to every practice during the season 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.040 or the stuff on the south side, So we're gonna 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.400 see tomorrow and then basically games from there and then 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.880 kind of rely on some people we know for some 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.840 stuff here and there. But we're kind of in the 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.600 same boat as our listeners in terms of what we're 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.400 exposed to after tomorrow. Now, we could go down to 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.400 practice on a Wednesday if we wanted, but we're recording 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.560 the drive and doing other things, you know, right, Yes. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.320 And especially once we get into the season, there's not 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.120 much you're allowed to talk about for practice either, right right, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.400 there's there's about the first ten to fifteen minutes that 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.760 is u that's you know, considered kind of the portion 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.800 where you can talk about it and take pictures and 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.360 videos and all those things if you're if you're media members. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.959 So yeah, we are. We are getting close to uh 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.760 to the big thing here, and of course those final 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.360 preseason games and the regular season opener, which is now 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.560 less than a month away. One last thing that I 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.560 wanted to note here is we kind of get going 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.439 and uh just recaping some of the things that went 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.839 on earlier. Roger Jones. Today we saw him taking second 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.640 team right tackle reps. Yeah yeah, place a Maxie Haunt 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.440 a chort And that was something you and I had 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.920 kind of and a lot of people have asked us 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.000 about a lot of people have discussed are we going 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.200 to see him or they do they just want him 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:08.200 to be the backup left tackle. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.520 To way what his role would be from day one 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:11.120 a camp. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.640 Well, we see him on both sides of the line, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.160 left tackle, right tackle. Could we potentially see any of 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.080 Roger Jones at guard? Well, today we got the first 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.120 look at him in a different role. He kind of 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.840 slid in for Maxi honatch or as the second team 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.760 right tackle. To me, I think that's a good sign. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:27.680 I think I thought so. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.839 The more that they and we know he's played left side, 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.760 he's played right side, The more that you know they 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.160 can do that with him, gives him a better shot 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.520 to potentially see the field and have some impact on 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.199 the team this year. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.800 I mean, I think in the ideal world, but it 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.560 never works this way. Is Fileton, who is a star 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:48.360 left tackle that plays seventeen plus games, Max is healthy, tomorrow, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.560 looks great, Is looks like the next great one. Can't 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.560 keep him out of the lineup. He's a day one starter. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.800 And then Cooks and Cook and Jones both have shown 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.600 that they can play left and right. You know, so 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.800 if anything needs you know, addressed, or you know, those 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.240 guys are banged up or not playing up to snuff, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:06.600 you can pick between the two. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.080 Sure can, sure can. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:08.680 Not so bad? 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.280 Not so bad? Uh, And good to see Broderick, you know, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:13.959 with a with a little bit of an opportunity and 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.640 moving over back over to the right side in the past. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.760 And we'll continue to kind of monitor all that for 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.320 you as we roll along. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.959 One thing that we were chatting about last night and 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.880 total coincidence, Labs brought it up to me too while 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.720 we were watching practice. I think I would not play 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.360 Rudolph or Rogers the rest of the preseason. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:35.960 I mean, give will a start. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.319 Yeah, I thought the same thing. I'll give them one 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.320 one starts the next game, one starts the next, the 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.080 other one the other. The other one takes over at halftime. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.280 I want to see you guys. I want them to 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.240 take every rep. Yeah, I mean it's on a knockout. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.520 It's actually a compliment to Rudolph that I know what 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.160 you are and I like it. You know, I don't 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:51.840 need you out there. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.000 There is you know, there is the part of me, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.040 Matt that's like, yeah, this is the only time makes 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.319 it's going to really get any work though. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:58.920 Right, He's probably like, I'd like to play. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.640 If you are keeping them around, you'd like to keep 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.679 him fresh and get as many reps as possible. But 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.400 I also would kind of revert back to and it's 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.040 same church, different view of what we would say about 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.040 Aaron Rodgers. If Mason Rudolph plays one or two series 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.240 in each of the next two preseason games, is that 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:15.400 really going to tip the scales? 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.640 If he has that change your grade on him or 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.079 your opinion he has to play. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.960 A second half in week seven, or he has to 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.280 start a game in week. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.520 Fourteen, or the Thank goodness I got that. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.080 I was going to say, are the extra fifteen preseason 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.880 snaps are really going to make a difference. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.040 In the sixth rows? Yeah? I tend to think not. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.280 I tend to think not right, would he be rustier 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.400 and if he go in that Week six game, probably 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:36.959 if he's. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.520 In his third year in the league, I'd be singing 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:39.120 a different tune. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:40.400 Yeah, he's kind of past that. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:41.839 I'm with you on that, I think. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.680 I amagine I want those other guys get every rep 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:44.160 they can get. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.000 I think I'm at that point now too. Let's see 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.120 as much as we can of those guys. Let's see 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.080 them both kind of with a half. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.120 Right, Yeah, one gets to start your squad. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.720 One gets to start the game, one gets to start 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.280 the second half. And then maybe you swap it vice versa. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.719 The yeah, one takes snaps from Fraser one year one 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.440 game and one does in the next. You know what 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:00.679 I mean. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.240 I mean that would also from our standpoint, Matt be 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.800 best for business, I think, so to see to see 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.480 as much of those two young quarterbacks as possible. Yes, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.800 I hear our old friends Stan Savage's voice in the 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.680 back of my head where he's saying, always root for 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.800 the story. And I don't mean I mean this is 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.680 a compliment to Mason Rudolph. And again, Mason Rudolf is 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.920 not the story. Dru Aller and Will Howard are the story. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.160 So people want to talk about that's what people want 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:26.960 to see. That's not why the Steelers would do it, 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.800 but it would root for the story. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.800 It would absolutely be good for the story, good for 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.600 the content. And uh, you know what, it was funny 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.199 like Max and I were talking about this on Thursday night. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.160 Everyone knows how preseason games work, right, I'd say the 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.040 crowds are usually about eighty percent full. It's not a 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.520 packed house, but it's a it's a good crowd, you know, 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:47.439 I'd say a. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.359 Lot more kids, and exactly right, whether it's better people hanging. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.800 Around the concourse and doing all the experienced stuff, not 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.720 necessarily glued to their seat for every action of the game. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.839 But you know, the preseason games, they're they're well attended, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.640 but not packed sold out to the gills. And then 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.040 usually at the start of the third, you know, at 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.840 halftime you can notice some people have left, and then 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.600 by the then by the end of the especially right, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.959 it's because you know, especially with the Steelers these last 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.720 couple of years, I feel like it's been years, Matt 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.480 since the Steelers about a weekend preseason game. They are 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.360 always on Thursdays and Fridays. Yeah, and I get it 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.120 because people are gonna watch and put the Steelers in 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.160 primetime because they're a massive brand. Makes a ton of 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:31.280 sense usually with that too. So you see some filter 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.240 out at halftime, and then around the end of the 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.160 third quarter, everyone's kind of like, all right, it's a 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:37.880 I don't know any of these guys that are left 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.520 in the game. Yeah, you know, I'm getting out of here. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.040 I gotta be at work in ten hours or whatever 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.880 the case may be. Let's let's get home and get 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.680 to bed and you know, and live to fight another 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.880 day here. Man. That was not the case on Thursday 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.080 because everyone was hanging around to watch Will Howard, everyone 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.600 was hanging around to watch Drew Aller, and Max was 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.080 you know, Max had to drive back here to Latroll. Yes, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.920 Max Starks. Of course I should have referenced that you're 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.240 right now. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.360 We got a honchour in the building. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.240 We were just talking about it, Max Starks and I 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.679 I was kind of laughing at him because down the 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.079 stretch of the fourth quarter we're going to commercial break, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.640 and every time Max is like, come on, people, get 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.040 out of here, like I don't want to have to fight. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.600 He's like, I've got like an eighty minute drive to 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.120 get back to the campus. He's like, I don't have 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.240 to sit in traffic, and I'm like, Max, this is 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.040 gonna be the case. Man, people want to watch will 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.360 people want to watch Drew And that will certainly be 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.000 the case for these next two preseason games. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.440 I think that's one hundred percent true. And I also 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.080 think it's a testament to Omar in the organization for 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.720 building a deeper team, because more than any other year, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.360 when the fourth quarter rules around, I felt like I 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.480 had a pretty good handle on just about everybody out there, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.800 as opposed to why even bother putting that guy out there, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.000 he's a lawyer, he's a ditch digger or whatever you know. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.720 I mean, but I felt like the prominent members of 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.160 the fourth quarter Pittsburgh Steelers were guys in the mix. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.800 Yeah yeah, yeah, right. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.800 Some offensive linemen who are fighting for those. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.800 Last few spots. I mean, even a dress schools and 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.040 those type of dudes, they've at least had a career, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:03.400 you know. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.560 It's it's it's a good point by you. And obviously 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.440 Friday night, we are what now about five days away 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.280 from getting another opportunity to uh to see the Steelers 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.840 in game action as the New York Jets will will 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.920 roll into town, the second of Aaron Rodgers former teams 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.480 that are on the preseason home slate for the Steelers, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.240 And they could be. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.040 Kind of entertaining too, because they've had a lot of 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.280 draft picks and you. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.240 Know, absolutely, I would imagine we're not going to. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.080 Sit everybody here. You know, they are trying to build 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:30.720 something like. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.480 I don't think we'll see much of Tomrio Davis and 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.080 micka Fitzpatrick and or maybe he plays a series like 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:37.520 Jordan Love did, but that's. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.240 I would think, like Omar Cooper plays a lot guys 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:40.600 like that. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.960 Absolutely, yeah, and so that could that could be a 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.400 lot of fun. And then obviously that final preseason game 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.680 up in Buffalo, which I think I'm looking forward to 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.600 more than any other preseason game in my life. That's 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.320 just because I want to see this day. Absolutely, I'm 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.000 a dork like that, And I've told you before, I 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.520 used to always, you know, i'd kind of be jealous 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.680 of like Dale and Labs and Pursuda and they would 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.640 talk about you know, I saw the Atlanta Falcons play 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.880 at the Georgia Dome and then the Mercedes Benz and 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.680 I saw the Colts play at the RCAA Dome, and 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.840 then Lucas Oil and I saw the Browns play at 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.400 Municipal Stadium, and then this is gonna be my first 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.760 opportunity to see a same NFL team in a second stadium. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.760 I see you're saying, yeah, I mean, I think Dale 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.720 even said he's like, I saw the Titans the one 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.240 year they were at that like soccer stadium when they 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.080