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Speaker 2: of the Black and of the Gold, Happy Sunday here
Speaker 2: on the program, Matt, and what is our penn ultimate
Speaker 2: show of this twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that training camp.
Speaker 2: We have got three hours with you today, three hours
Speaker 2: with you tomorrow, and then that's a bow on our
Speaker 2: public portion of what we do out here. The team
Speaker 2: will have like a walkthrough type thing on Tuesday here before.
Speaker 3: Some media stuff, right, and I think.
Speaker 2: Some media stuff tomorrow are on Tuesday. Pardon me, But
Speaker 2: in terms of practices today, in the books, tomorrow the
Speaker 2: last one in terms of the public viewership, and we
Speaker 2: are really down the home stretch here.
Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, we are. And it's been a good experience
Speaker 3: as usual, and I'm also ready to wrap it up
Speaker 3: as usual and get into real games, you know, more
Speaker 3: consistently and all those things. But I feel like we've
Speaker 3: learned a lot. Practice was I had to leave practice
Speaker 3: about ten or fifteen minutes earlier today, but just chat
Speaker 3: with people at lunch, they said it got really physical
Speaker 3: at the end. And they also said, I don't think
Speaker 3: that's a coincidence with the Landon Roberts first practice with
Speaker 3: the team, And maybe he didn't get the memo that
Speaker 3: we don't hit around here anymore. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Maybe he came in thinking that this was still the
Speaker 2: two years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it's just a lot of that. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: saw we do it in La Trobe, you know, so
Speaker 3: set the towne. But now it looked like a decent practice.
Speaker 3: Majority of it was teaching stuff and walk through ish
Speaker 3: stuff and all that good stuff as well. But team seems,
Speaker 3: you know, knock on wood, relatively healthy. Max of Honachur
Speaker 3: wasn't out there today. I didn't love seeing that, you know,
Speaker 3: because coach McCarthy had said a while back that they
Speaker 3: were shooting for last Monday. I'm not sure how to
Speaker 3: take that, but I'm sure they are siding on the
Speaker 3: side of precaution for all these guys, especially the high
Speaker 3: value dudes like a Han.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's I shouldn't say funny, but
Speaker 2: it's coincidence.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 2: We actually got a few tweets about that from people
Speaker 2: right from people earlier today, essentially like, hey, is it
Speaker 2: time to start worrying about Max yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the answer is yes or no.
Speaker 2: I do know though, that the longer this plays out,
Speaker 2: the more difficult it's going to be for him to
Speaker 2: potentially be the Steelers starting right tackle on Day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then once you get into the core to the
Speaker 2: regular season, I think it becomes even harder to usurp
Speaker 2: somebody on the depth chart.
Speaker 3: Oh that question.
Speaker 2: Once you're in games, and as you've outlined, you really
Speaker 2: only have kind of two you and I have talked
Speaker 2: this to death in the past, but there's way less
Speaker 2: time in the week than people think.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you've got really grooming guys and making roster,
Speaker 3: you know, making changes.
Speaker 2: You've got really kind of two full practices in a
Speaker 2: week and that's about it, you know, Wednesday and Thursday,
Speaker 2: and yeah, you do some stuff on Friday and things
Speaker 2: like that, but the practices in season. Obviously, you can
Speaker 2: only have so many padded practices per year. I think
Speaker 2: it's like seventeen or something like that. And so I
Speaker 2: don't know what to think of Max for this injury
Speaker 2: as it relates to the long term, or what it
Speaker 2: means for his entire year anything like that. But I
Speaker 2: do know that the longer and longer we see him
Speaker 2: on the sidelines, the harder and harder it's going to
Speaker 2: be for him to get on the field in the
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, up until now, I've kind of looked
Speaker 3: at it like, I'm not worried. They're just signing for coffin,
Speaker 3: you know, and there were some off days here and
Speaker 3: they too, and you know, no reason to push him.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. I just kind of thought today after
Speaker 3: just chatting with folks at Sharkey's last night. It was like,
Speaker 3: I bet today he's back at it and he comes
Speaker 3: out and he's just you know, he's got a dozen
Speaker 3: of pads on, just has jersey on. I'm like, eh,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm starting to worry just a smidge, you know,
Speaker 3: and I want to, but I'm just thought to be
Speaker 3: done by now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Same here, And you know again, Mike McCarthy kind of
Speaker 2: told us last week that he was hopeful he'd be
Speaker 2: back at practice on Monday, right, and this is Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's been almost a week later, and we still haven't seen.
Speaker 3: That's why coaches don't put tact. That's why you say
Speaker 3: that was kind of a rookie mistake by coach McCarthy.
Speaker 3: I think I think you just say day to day
Speaker 3: or you know, soon a week or two, or something
Speaker 3: a little more vague. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But obviously that that continues to be a storyline
Speaker 2: that we will monitor and keep an eye on, and
Speaker 2: if there are any updates or new news around that,
Speaker 2: of course, we will make sure to share it and
Speaker 2: discuss it with you. But as Matt mentioned, physical more
Speaker 2: physical practice today, pretty fortunate inter some weather elements.
Speaker 3: Matt, they had a I thought, for sure we're getting
Speaker 3: rained out today.
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, when I woke up this morning, and
Speaker 2: it's funny, this is kind of what I do during
Speaker 2: training camp time. You wake up and you kind of
Speaker 2: check the weather right.
Speaker 3: Away, and especial if you're at home, especially when should
Speaker 3: I leave the house to get hear and exactly right.
Speaker 2: And I went home last night and back today. I
Speaker 2: did just a day trip yesterday, and and so first
Speaker 2: thing I do when I wake up this morning is
Speaker 2: check that weather. And I'm like, oh man, I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's I don't know if there's gonna be
Speaker 2: public practice.
Speaker 3: And then we were talking about last night sharky just
Speaker 3: like there's there's no way. It looks like a huge
Speaker 3: storm's coming the whole time.
Speaker 2: And then funny enough, about twenty minutes after that, once again,
Speaker 2: you text myself and Bob Labriola in a group chat
Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, Labs, what's the word we get
Speaker 2: we getting practice in here today or what?
Speaker 3: Because he's in here doing the morning show and then
Speaker 3: you know he's gonna be dowed in for all the
Speaker 3: practice stuff. So he's the guy that talked to yes.
Speaker 2: And they did end up getting practice in a little
Speaker 2: more physical, Like Matt said, some some pushing and some
Speaker 2: shoving and some some exchange words at the end of practice.
Speaker 2: And its funny, as you mentioned, Elannon Roberts was in
Speaker 2: the all that some of him and Mason McCormick some
Speaker 2: of those competitive juices going.
Speaker 3: On, and it's I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it too. In fact, I think you
Speaker 2: need there's a very fine line between fights and just angst,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, and as long as you're just on
Speaker 2: the side of angst in competition, and anyone who's ever
Speaker 2: played a sport knows sometimes you just lose your head
Speaker 2: for a moment and it's not a big deal. You
Speaker 2: move on, next play, next series, next rep, whatever, and
Speaker 2: it's no big deal as long as it stays on
Speaker 2: that side and doesn't get to the again, that very
Speaker 2: clear fine line that we all know is taking things
Speaker 2: too far. I'm fine with it too, especially in what's
Speaker 2: been certainly a tamer training camp to this point than
Speaker 2: we've seen in past years.
Speaker 3: And pushing and shoving and things. I mean, how many
Speaker 3: guys have really gotten injured on a practice field, you know,
Speaker 3: as long as you don't punch them on the face
Speaker 3: mask and break your hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was. It seemed to just be some
Speaker 2: you know, some exchanging of words and a little pushing
Speaker 2: and shoving. It was funny, though, Matt, because Alanna Roberts
Speaker 2: and Mason McCormick I had one of those oh I've
Speaker 2: seen this fish before type moments where I feel like
Speaker 2: those two, you know, when Mason was breaking into the league,
Speaker 2: those two both tone setters. That's a very good way
Speaker 2: to put it. It's nothing personal, they just that's the
Speaker 2: way they play the game.
Speaker 3: Atlanta robertson the reason they're here exactly.
Speaker 2: You need those kind of guys on your team. Alana
Speaker 2: Roberts ain't gonna take any crap from anybody, and I'll
Speaker 2: let you know about it. Mason McCormick ain't gonna take
Speaker 2: any crap from anybody. He'll let you know about it.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, a little little little, you know, a
Speaker 2: little juice flying around at the at the end of
Speaker 2: practice here today on this Sunday, because remember Matt, I
Speaker 2: told people yesterday, never miss a Sunday show.
Speaker 3: You never know, you never know.
Speaker 2: Sure enough, some sparks flying in practice today, but able
Speaker 2: to get that work in and tomorrow, Matt last practice
Speaker 2: that will have a chance you and I to see
Speaker 2: these guys really other than the preseason games the rest
Speaker 2: of the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for our purpose is yours and I mine,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna go to every practice during the season
Speaker 3: or the stuff on the south side, So we're gonna
Speaker 3: see tomorrow and then basically games from there and then
Speaker 3: kind of rely on some people we know for some
Speaker 3: stuff here and there. But we're kind of in the
Speaker 3: same boat as our listeners in terms of what we're
Speaker 3: exposed to after tomorrow. Now, we could go down to
Speaker 3: practice on a Wednesday if we wanted, but we're recording
Speaker 3: the drive and doing other things, you know, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: And especially once we get into the season, there's not
Speaker 2: much you're allowed to talk about for practice either, right right,
Speaker 2: there's there's about the first ten to fifteen minutes that
Speaker 2: is u that's you know, considered kind of the portion
Speaker 2: where you can talk about it and take pictures and
Speaker 2: videos and all those things if you're if you're media members.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we are. We are getting close to uh
Speaker 2: to the big thing here, and of course those final
Speaker 2: preseason games and the regular season opener, which is now
Speaker 2: less than a month away. One last thing that I
Speaker 2: wanted to note here is we kind of get going
Speaker 2: and uh just recaping some of the things that went
Speaker 2: on earlier. Roger Jones. Today we saw him taking second
Speaker 2: team right tackle reps. Yeah yeah, place a Maxie Haunt
Speaker 2: a chort And that was something you and I had
Speaker 2: kind of and a lot of people have asked us
Speaker 2: about a lot of people have discussed are we going
Speaker 2: to see him or they do they just want him
Speaker 2: to be the backup left tackle.
Speaker 3: To way what his role would be from day one
Speaker 3: a camp.
Speaker 2: Well, we see him on both sides of the line,
Speaker 2: left tackle, right tackle. Could we potentially see any of
Speaker 2: Roger Jones at guard? Well, today we got the first
Speaker 2: look at him in a different role. He kind of
Speaker 2: slid in for Maxi honatch or as the second team
Speaker 2: right tackle. To me, I think that's a good sign.
Speaker 3: I think I thought so.
Speaker 2: The more that they and we know he's played left side,
Speaker 2: he's played right side, The more that you know they
Speaker 2: can do that with him, gives him a better shot
Speaker 2: to potentially see the field and have some impact on
Speaker 2: the team this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think in the ideal world, but it
Speaker 3: never works this way. Is Fileton, who is a star
Speaker 3: left tackle that plays seventeen plus games, Max is healthy, tomorrow,
Speaker 3: looks great, Is looks like the next great one. Can't
Speaker 3: keep him out of the lineup. He's a day one starter.
Speaker 3: And then Cooks and Cook and Jones both have shown
Speaker 3: that they can play left and right. You know, so
Speaker 3: if anything needs you know, addressed, or you know, those
Speaker 3: guys are banged up or not playing up to snuff,
Speaker 3: you can pick between the two.
Speaker 2: Sure can, sure can.
Speaker 3: Not so bad?
Speaker 2: Not so bad? Uh, And good to see Broderick, you know,
Speaker 2: with a with a little bit of an opportunity and
Speaker 2: moving over back over to the right side in the past.
Speaker 2: And we'll continue to kind of monitor all that for
Speaker 2: you as we roll along.
Speaker 3: One thing that we were chatting about last night and
Speaker 3: total coincidence, Labs brought it up to me too while
Speaker 3: we were watching practice. I think I would not play
Speaker 3: Rudolph or Rogers the rest of the preseason.
Speaker 2: I mean, give will a start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing. I'll give them one
Speaker 3: one starts the next game, one starts the next, the
Speaker 3: other one the other. The other one takes over at halftime.
Speaker 3: I want to see you guys. I want them to
Speaker 3: take every rep. Yeah, I mean it's on a knockout.
Speaker 3: It's actually a compliment to Rudolph that I know what
Speaker 3: you are and I like it. You know, I don't
Speaker 3: need you out there.
Speaker 2: There is you know, there is the part of me,
Speaker 2: Matt that's like, yeah, this is the only time makes
Speaker 2: it's going to really get any work though.
Speaker 3: Right, He's probably like, I'd like to play.
Speaker 2: If you are keeping them around, you'd like to keep
Speaker 2: him fresh and get as many reps as possible. But
Speaker 2: I also would kind of revert back to and it's
Speaker 2: same church, different view of what we would say about
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. If Mason Rudolph plays one or two series
Speaker 2: in each of the next two preseason games, is that
Speaker 2: really going to tip the scales?
Speaker 3: If he has that change your grade on him or
Speaker 3: your opinion he has to play.
Speaker 2: A second half in week seven, or he has to
Speaker 2: start a game in week.
Speaker 3: Fourteen, or the Thank goodness I got that.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, are the extra fifteen preseason
Speaker 2: snaps are really going to make a difference.
Speaker 3: In the sixth rows? Yeah? I tend to think not.
Speaker 3: I tend to think not right, would he be rustier
Speaker 3: and if he go in that Week six game, probably
Speaker 3: if he's.
Speaker 2: In his third year in the league, I'd be singing
Speaker 2: a different tune.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of past that.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, I think.
Speaker 3: I amagine I want those other guys get every rep
Speaker 3: they can get.
Speaker 2: I think I'm at that point now too. Let's see
Speaker 2: as much as we can of those guys. Let's see
Speaker 2: them both kind of with a half.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, one gets to start your squad.
Speaker 2: One gets to start the game, one gets to start
Speaker 2: the second half. And then maybe you swap it vice versa.
Speaker 3: The yeah, one takes snaps from Fraser one year one
Speaker 3: game and one does in the next. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean that would also from our standpoint, Matt be
Speaker 2: best for business, I think, so to see to see
Speaker 2: as much of those two young quarterbacks as possible. Yes,
Speaker 2: I hear our old friends Stan Savage's voice in the
Speaker 2: back of my head where he's saying, always root for
Speaker 2: the story. And I don't mean I mean this is
Speaker 2: a compliment to Mason Rudolph. And again, Mason Rudolf is
Speaker 2: not the story. Dru Aller and Will Howard are the story.
Speaker 3: So people want to talk about that's what people want
Speaker 3: to see. That's not why the Steelers would do it,
Speaker 3: but it would root for the story.
Speaker 2: It would absolutely be good for the story, good for
Speaker 2: the content. And uh, you know what, it was funny
Speaker 2: like Max and I were talking about this on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows how preseason games work, right, I'd say the
Speaker 2: crowds are usually about eighty percent full. It's not a
Speaker 2: packed house, but it's a it's a good crowd, you know,
Speaker 2: I'd say a.
Speaker 3: Lot more kids, and exactly right, whether it's better people hanging.
Speaker 2: Around the concourse and doing all the experienced stuff, not
Speaker 2: necessarily glued to their seat for every action of the game.
Speaker 2: But you know, the preseason games, they're they're well attended,
Speaker 2: but not packed sold out to the gills. And then
Speaker 2: usually at the start of the third, you know, at
Speaker 2: halftime you can notice some people have left, and then
Speaker 2: by the then by the end of the especially right,
Speaker 2: it's because you know, especially with the Steelers these last
Speaker 2: couple of years, I feel like it's been years, Matt
Speaker 2: since the Steelers about a weekend preseason game. They are
Speaker 2: always on Thursdays and Fridays. Yeah, and I get it
Speaker 2: because people are gonna watch and put the Steelers in
Speaker 2: primetime because they're a massive brand. Makes a ton of
Speaker 2: sense usually with that too. So you see some filter
Speaker 2: out at halftime, and then around the end of the
Speaker 2: third quarter, everyone's kind of like, all right, it's a
Speaker 2: I don't know any of these guys that are left
Speaker 2: in the game. Yeah, you know, I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 2: I gotta be at work in ten hours or whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be. Let's let's get home and get
Speaker 2: to bed and you know, and live to fight another
Speaker 2: day here. Man. That was not the case on Thursday
Speaker 2: because everyone was hanging around to watch Will Howard, everyone
Speaker 2: was hanging around to watch Drew Aller, and Max was
Speaker 2: you know, Max had to drive back here to Latroll. Yes,
Speaker 2: Max Starks. Of course I should have referenced that you're
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: We got a honchour in the building.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about it, Max Starks and I
Speaker 2: I was kind of laughing at him because down the
Speaker 2: stretch of the fourth quarter we're going to commercial break,
Speaker 2: and every time Max is like, come on, people, get
Speaker 2: out of here, like I don't want to have to fight.
Speaker 2: He's like, I've got like an eighty minute drive to
Speaker 2: get back to the campus. He's like, I don't have
Speaker 2: to sit in traffic, and I'm like, Max, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be the case. Man, people want to watch will
Speaker 2: people want to watch Drew And that will certainly be
Speaker 2: the case for these next two preseason games.
Speaker 3: I think that's one hundred percent true. And I also
Speaker 3: think it's a testament to Omar in the organization for
Speaker 3: building a deeper team, because more than any other year,
Speaker 3: when the fourth quarter rules around, I felt like I
Speaker 3: had a pretty good handle on just about everybody out there,
Speaker 3: as opposed to why even bother putting that guy out there,
Speaker 3: he's a lawyer, he's a ditch digger or whatever you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I felt like the prominent members of
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter Pittsburgh Steelers were guys in the mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Some offensive linemen who are fighting for those.
Speaker 3: Last few spots. I mean, even a dress schools and
Speaker 3: those type of dudes, they've at least had a career,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a good point by you. And obviously
Speaker 2: Friday night, we are what now about five days away
Speaker 2: from getting another opportunity to uh to see the Steelers
Speaker 2: in game action as the New York Jets will will
Speaker 2: roll into town, the second of Aaron Rodgers former teams
Speaker 2: that are on the preseason home slate for the Steelers,
Speaker 2: And they could be.
Speaker 3: Kind of entertaining too, because they've had a lot of
Speaker 3: draft picks and you.
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, I would imagine we're not going to.
Speaker 3: Sit everybody here. You know, they are trying to build
Speaker 3: something like.
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll see much of Tomrio Davis and
Speaker 2: micka Fitzpatrick and or maybe he plays a series like
Speaker 2: Jordan Love did, but that's.
Speaker 3: I would think, like Omar Cooper plays a lot guys
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, and so that could that could be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. And then obviously that final preseason game
Speaker 2: up in Buffalo, which I think I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: more than any other preseason game in my life. That's
Speaker 2: just because I want to see this day. Absolutely, I'm
Speaker 2: a dork like that, And I've told you before, I
Speaker 2: used to always, you know, i'd kind of be jealous
Speaker 2: of like Dale and Labs and Pursuda and they would
Speaker 2: talk about you know, I saw the Atlanta Falcons play
Speaker 2: at the Georgia Dome and then the Mercedes Benz and
Speaker 2: I saw the Colts play at the RCAA Dome, and
Speaker 2: then Lucas Oil and I saw the Browns play at
Speaker 2: Municipal Stadium, and then this is gonna be my first
Speaker 2: opportunity to see a same NFL team in a second stadium.
Speaker 3: I see you're saying, yeah, I mean, I think Dale
Speaker 3: even said he's like, I saw the Titans the one
Speaker 3: year they were at that like soccer stadium when they
Speaker 3: moved to Tennessee, like a year early.
Speaker 2: Almost, you know, yep, exactly right, and so.
Speaker 3: He saw that organization like four buildings. This yeah, a right.
Speaker 2: Imagine like imagine how they probably all saw the Chargers
Speaker 2: in a bunch of different locations. Raiders Raiders. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: Chargers were in San Diego and then they were in
Speaker 2: a soccer stadium and then they were in Sofi. Raiders
Speaker 2: is another great call by you. So yeah, that Bill's
Speaker 2: game will be my first in my in my twelfth
Speaker 2: This is my twelfth season working in the NFL if
Speaker 2: you count the three that I did for the Eagles
Speaker 2: before my my ninth year with the Steelers, and it'll
Speaker 2: be the first time I've ever been in a new
Speaker 2: stadium for a same team. That I had already been
Speaker 2: in their previous barn, and so I am looking forward.
Speaker 3: To I heard mixed reviews about that stadium, by the way.
Speaker 2: Same here, Same here. I'm gonna I'll walk around and
Speaker 2: I'll get the scoop.
Speaker 3: For Yeah, I'm sure you'll be on top of it,
Speaker 3: but I guess there was one event there or something
Speaker 3: people weren't throwed with it.
Speaker 2: I also, Matt will much rather prefer going to Buffalo
Speaker 2: in August than like December and January, where we've always
Speaker 2: gone there in the past. A little bit of a
Speaker 2: little bit of a.
Speaker 3: Different gy ess. It wouldn't break my heart there to
Speaker 3: go there in the second round of the playoffs or
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Certainly. We'll get there
Speaker 2: twice this year and see how they've improved the stadium
Speaker 2: throughout the course of the year. We've got plenty to
Speaker 2: get to. Today as we roll along, just getting started,
Speaker 2: we are going to talk some more about some guys
Speaker 2: on this roster we're gonna have. It's been a few
Speaker 2: days since we've done some fantasy football conversation. We'll do that,
Speaker 2: and of course, Matt, as people know, at five o'clock
Speaker 2: to kick off our bonus hour, we will hit the
Speaker 2: tweets so you get your questions comming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep it comings and reactions.
Speaker 2: It's been great all off season, all camp. You all
Speaker 2: have been amazing keeping those tweets rolling in. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's a easy segment that we can all steal from
Speaker 2: you all just answering some questions.
Speaker 3: But like interacting to you know me too, and you
Speaker 3: all do.
Speaker 2: A good job of asking questions and that's why we
Speaker 2: keep doing it. So at Wesley Yuler at Williamson, NFL,
Speaker 2: if you want to get involved, there plenty of ground
Speaker 2: to cover. As Matt the grounds crew is pulling out
Speaker 2: this massive tart because it is.
Speaker 3: I've been watching this. This is an endeavor, man.
Speaker 2: It is supposed to rain here this afternoon and evening.
Speaker 2: I think pretty heavy, like you and I by the
Speaker 2: time we get out there.
Speaker 3: They don't always tarp the field like Labs was telling
Speaker 3: me about this today. Is like they're tarping it because
Speaker 3: McCarthy really wanted to. They tarped it last night because
Speaker 3: McCarthy really wanted to get a full practice in, and
Speaker 3: it looks like they're about to do it again, meaning
Speaker 3: they're gonna do everything possible to make sure they get
Speaker 3: work done on this field tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And it is supposed to It's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Though I don't envy this career.
Speaker 2: We're in two, three, four, five, six, seven, Eight different
Speaker 2: guys down here trying to get this massive tarp spread
Speaker 2: across the field.
Speaker 3: And three pretty significant devices in terms of like you know,
Speaker 3: big artillery to help move these things around too.
Speaker 2: I said, eight guys, there's nine down there.
Speaker 3: Actually it's all just manpower, dragons, giant thing right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mayo get some of these offensive linemen out here
Speaker 2: to pull this there you go. It'll be like the
Speaker 2: old days that you have touching Wolf for up here wolf.
Speaker 2: They'd be like back in our day.
Speaker 3: Chuckle made us do the tar, broke us up early
Speaker 3: and there woke us up at.
Speaker 2: Six am and said, you're on tarp, dude, Yes, as
Speaker 2: it is supposed to. Uh, it is supposed to rain
Speaker 2: some cats and dogs here this evening and will trow
Speaker 2: I believe, And so getting that tarp out there, hopefully
Speaker 2: last day of.
Speaker 3: Public mainly do the warm field though, right, I would
Speaker 3: think so, I would think. So I got here before
Speaker 3: it was. It was untarped when I got here today.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look around and I I mean there
Speaker 3: is something over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, there is another tarp over here. Well, hey, folks, guess.
Speaker 3: What, Well, we'll be on top of it.
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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Matt, the uh intrepid grounds crew here, man,
Speaker 2: they might need this entire three hour show that we're
Speaker 2: doing to get this field covered with the tar.
Speaker 3: It's like a big no. It looks like it like
Speaker 3: you mentioned before, been on the air. It looks like
Speaker 3: it got put away fast and like balled up. It's muddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah here in the corner.
Speaker 3: I mean they're using a tractor to like move it
Speaker 3: a little bit, and they know a thousand times better
Speaker 3: than me. But I'm like, isn't that a great way
Speaker 3: to put a hole in? Tar?
Speaker 2: Seems like a pretty heavy duty tarp though to be
Speaker 2: fair too.
Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt. I'm sure it's the best ones you.
Speaker 2: Can buy, like what you and I get it loas No, but.
Speaker 3: There's some bickering amongst the crowd, you know, the crew
Speaker 3: here literally they can tell. They're all like, hey, there's dissension. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been camp for a long time too. They might
Speaker 3: be uh getting a little more. This might be the
Speaker 3: most physical practice for them to.
Speaker 2: Home stretch for the grounds crew. Right here comes backs
Speaker 2: on backers.
Speaker 3: They're all looking at each other like I've seen enough
Speaker 3: of you. I need another team to hit.
Speaker 2: Because there are another grounds crew I can fight for
Speaker 2: a few minutes. Matt, I wanted to run some names
Speaker 2: past you as we get towards the end of the
Speaker 2: public portion of training camp. Here we are obviously a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks away from initial fifty three man rosters.
Speaker 2: I want to I'm gonna throw I'm gonna lob at
Speaker 2: you some names, Okay, and you tell me if they
Speaker 2: should be calm, concerned, worried, or panicked about their roster status.
Speaker 3: Concerned, worried, panic, Okay, get it. Yep.
Speaker 2: Let's start with, uh, some couple of low hanging fruit ones.
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson panicked. Yeah, I think that they're Oh. I
Speaker 3: mean I think if if Carolina Panthers said we'll give
Speaker 3: you a seventh round pick for him right now, I
Speaker 3: think you take it. Yeah. That's like I've seen enough.
Speaker 2: Like many Pittsburgher's were setting you south.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think I don't know if you could
Speaker 3: even get a pick out of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 3: Now. Would have to really have liked them coming out
Speaker 3: of Iowa, and.
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe that could all Maybe after Friday night's
Speaker 2: preseason game, Matt and I could be singing a different tone.
Speaker 3: But if they're not gonna give them snaps, if they're
Speaker 3: not even wasting the time, if they feel it's a
Speaker 3: waste of time, give them snaps. To me, that was
Speaker 3: really telling. I thought he would lead the team in
Speaker 3: rushing for sure.
Speaker 2: I did too. If you would ask me to put
Speaker 2: a you know, a coin down on which stealers running
Speaker 2: back would have the most rushing yards in the preseason,
Speaker 2: might I might have thought about Lou Nichols Just yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of work in the second half, and.
Speaker 3: He kind of always does, always does.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought with Caleb Johnson would have been
Speaker 2: right there in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah again, I think that tells a lot of what
Speaker 3: they think of him.
Speaker 2: Let's stay in the backfield, although we don't know if
Speaker 2: that's where he's going to be exclusively, but that's where
Speaker 2: we saw him Thursday night against.
Speaker 3: The Cart's getting some attention over here. Oh no, I
Speaker 3: think one. I think one only covers the fifty of
Speaker 3: the end zone, the other one together one. OK. See,
Speaker 3: that's what tar is supposed to look like.
Speaker 2: It's it's all folded up it's not that muddy.
Speaker 3: It's not a knot. It's like the other one though,
Speaker 3: I write, is like when my wife puts the hose away, well,
Speaker 3: and she doesn't put it away, she takes it all
Speaker 3: out and then throws it in a ball in the garage.
Speaker 3: And then the next person me ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: the time, goes to get the hose and it's like
Speaker 3: in knots and it's a mess. Ye's cat out here too?
Speaker 3: Should he tell you? She's like, I'm not putting it back.
Speaker 2: It's like my wife, Morgan with the Christmas decorations every year.
Speaker 3: It's like it happened if I put the Christmas decorations away.
Speaker 2: Every year, it's like, honey, can you go get the
Speaker 2: Christmas stuff up in the attic? And it's it looks
Speaker 2: like you with your mustard on your sandwiches right everywhere.
Speaker 2: Lights are here and everything's tangled and nothing's in the box.
Speaker 2: I'm like, sweetheart, what are we doing it? What are
Speaker 2: we doing?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it looks like if I put the
Speaker 3: Christmas decorations.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. So to the left we have the hose.
Speaker 2: When Matt winds it up. To the right, we have
Speaker 2: the hose when when our wives just leave them in
Speaker 2: a crumpled mess? What about eli Hyde and Reich?
Speaker 3: Oh? What were the over them? Again?
Speaker 2: Calm? Concerned? Worried or panic worried? Okay, worried.
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a Pittsburgh Steeler. I can't see
Speaker 3: any reason why he wouldn't want to resign on the
Speaker 3: practice squad. I want to see him here next year.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say that probably ten times in
Speaker 3: this exercise. I just don't know what he where he
Speaker 3: fits in for the final roster week one. The fact
Speaker 3: that he's only gone to the run back meeting room
Speaker 3: and on Thursday was the first time I've ever seen
Speaker 3: him take like real running back carries in his life.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can count him for that
Speaker 3: position unless he's the best, like he's better than Scornic
Speaker 3: on special games or something. That just can't not have
Speaker 3: him on special teams.
Speaker 2: Again, this is another one that could change Friday. Maybe
Speaker 2: they line him up in the slot and we see
Speaker 2: him do some stuff there and we start to change
Speaker 2: our tune.
Speaker 3: But for now, but even the receiver rooms are pretty fools.
Speaker 3: I mean, if he was the entire offense mat Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's not many spots.
Speaker 2: You look at the offensive line and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: we're probably gonna have to cut or practice squad a
Speaker 2: good player or two. You look at the quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, we could keep four. You look at
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, Yeah we could keep six. You look
Speaker 2: at the running backs, Yeah we could keep four or five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just there's I mean, in terms of running backs,
Speaker 3: he's six. In terms of receivers, if he would be
Speaker 3: good and he hasn't made the switch, you'd be seven.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm with you in the sense of I
Speaker 2: don't think he's going anywhere.
Speaker 3: No, I think he could be here next year.
Speaker 2: In terms in terms of his uh, his chances for
Speaker 2: that initial fifty three, I think it is time to
Speaker 2: get a little worried. Let's go another last low hanging
Speaker 2: fruit one. Matt Malik Harrison.
Speaker 3: Panicked worried to panicked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you considered at least he has.
Speaker 3: A body of work where Eli doesn't. Caleb doesn't that. Hey,
Speaker 3: I've proven that I am an NFL player. He'd be
Speaker 3: probably panicked about being a Steeler.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true. I think he'll get a show.
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a football player this year and
Speaker 3: get on a fifty three.
Speaker 2: Especially when you consider the Steelers could save almost five million.
Speaker 2: I think that's about the number against the cat by
Speaker 2: releasing him.
Speaker 3: And so he's gonna lose all ties of course.
Speaker 2: In the obvious recent edition of one of Landon Roberts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're spending money on Benton and hopefully Border
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe Anderson.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Matt you know, saying that you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to part ways with at least one, maybe two you know,
Speaker 2: talented offensive lineman. What about Ryan McCullum worried? I think
Speaker 2: that's fair. I will say center only, but he played
Speaker 2: a little guard on Thursday night.
Speaker 3: He has a little which which But like I think
Speaker 3: Hoffman's better at both same, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And and you've got Jennings Dunker, and you've got Spencer Anderson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got McCormick and Yeah, again, I wouldn't mind bringing
Speaker 3: them back to camp next year. There's probably teams in
Speaker 3: the league where he could be your number two center
Speaker 3: and emergency guard. But I think that Hoffman signing, is
Speaker 3: he hurt him bad?
Speaker 2: Is he the type that you would like to try
Speaker 2: and keep on a practice squad.
Speaker 3: I suppose, but there's just not not many things that
Speaker 3: can There's not a great path for him to actually
Speaker 3: put a helmet on and get dirty for.
Speaker 2: Sixty and you but you know I and you know
Speaker 2: I hate saying this too, my guy Zach Frasier, But
Speaker 2: even if Fraser were to pick up an injury and
Speaker 2: he's gonna be out for three weeks or whatever, they'd
Speaker 2: probably go to the center.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, so he almost needs two guys
Speaker 3: to get hurt to be really relevant. Just doesn't add up.
Speaker 2: I am with you on that one. A name that
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we've mentioned yet this camp, Matt,
Speaker 2: what about Sebastian Castro Worried?
Speaker 3: He screams practice squad to me? Unless you he's special game.
Speaker 3: That's an asterisk for this entire conversation is I know
Speaker 3: he's gotten a lot of special teams work. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna pretend like he's I know, if he's good or
Speaker 3: bad at it. I mean, I assume he's decent or
Speaker 3: they wouldn't keep trotting him out there. But I mean
Speaker 3: I think he's the fifth safety at best. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he is probably the fifth safety at best.
Speaker 2: And you already seemingly are going to have a couple
Speaker 2: of those guys on the roster. Who you want is
Speaker 2: your core kind of special teams guys, And I just
Speaker 2: don't know if there's enough, And.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be short at corner, especially with Ramsey's
Speaker 3: ability to play both. I don't think you would be like,
Speaker 3: we'll keep one less corner to keep Castro. No, way a.
Speaker 2: Couple of defensive linemen to round out this exercise, Matt,
Speaker 2: let's start with Azase Autumnwayo.
Speaker 3: What was the second category? Calm, concerned, worried, panicked, concerned?
Speaker 3: This is deep, ye, I mean if they chose Lowry
Speaker 3: over him, Harman Rubio Rubio, Yeah, I mean Ruby Rubio
Speaker 3: is a little different because he's a nose and Ona
Speaker 3: Wayne Woe is definitely more of an end and athletes.
Speaker 3: But I think the organization's high on him.
Speaker 2: Dean Lowry worried.
Speaker 3: I still think he's okay. He's another one kind of
Speaker 3: like Harrison, Like, I bet he's on a fifty three
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: If you had to, if you had to dress him
Speaker 2: in week seven.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's gonna be or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean some of those dudes I've always talked about
Speaker 3: like a baseball thing, like I can bring this dude
Speaker 3: out in middle relief and huliat innings for me when
Speaker 3: my starter goes down, but lowry, warmly louder milk. Their
Speaker 3: era is higher than I want, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like and then don't get the big strikeout for you,
Speaker 3: you know, get that big double play or they can
Speaker 3: only face left easy. And I don't know, I'm stretching
Speaker 3: on my baseball knowledge, which isn't much. I mean, I'd
Speaker 3: much rather throw out Joseph Day to be my inning eater,
Speaker 3: you know, who makes plays and is harder to ball.
Speaker 2: Last one on the defensive line, Matt. What about Logan
Speaker 2: Lee another guy that we haven't seen or really.
Speaker 3: I went to IR. I think that season ending he
Speaker 3: buys he so I assume he'll be back here next year.
Speaker 3: Gets a free ride on IR, but still highly worried.
Speaker 2: But the next year you better Yeah.
Speaker 3: Year three, and what do we got? What do we
Speaker 3: think differently than the day we drafted you? If anything,
Speaker 3: you probably stock went down since that day, you would
Speaker 3: hope when you drafted him. Now it's like, and he's
Speaker 3: been here for a while and has done much.
Speaker 2: And then one more Matt that I want to throw
Speaker 2: at you here before we go to break. And with
Speaker 2: the emergence of what we saw in jam and Davis
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, what about Jack Sawyer?
Speaker 3: I would say calm, but I almost went concerned.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's clearly what you should be
Speaker 2: worried or panicked. But yeah, I don't think it's guaranteed either.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's guaranteed because part of it, this
Speaker 3: is kind of a deeper converse, is how much do
Speaker 3: they want to jump into this three outside linebacker her
Speaker 3: big package, because I think Davis can be a facsimile
Speaker 3: of herbig. Now, if Herbig were to get hurt, would
Speaker 3: you just scrap the whole thing?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 3: Probably, you know That's my point, Like, you're only doing
Speaker 3: it to get your best eleven out there, and Davis
Speaker 3: is never going to be your best eleven. But he
Speaker 3: could do some of that off the ball, move around
Speaker 3: attacking type things that they planned to use herbig for.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of like the sixth offensive lineman thing
Speaker 3: last year. If Anderson would have got hurt, I think
Speaker 3: they would have found a different sixth offensive lineman. But
Speaker 3: it's kind of the opposite of that actually. But if
Speaker 3: herbig were to get hurt, they'll just scrap it. I
Speaker 3: just think they're not going to do the package at all.
Speaker 3: The only the package only exists to get him.
Speaker 2: On the future twenty six million dollar a year.
Speaker 3: He's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yes, No, that that makes a lot of.
Speaker 3: Sense, not to get Jamie Davis on the field.
Speaker 2: Any names, any names that I should have mentioned in
Speaker 2: that exercise that I didn't mention.
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson's calm, Yes, but not guaranteed. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's another receiver that's scary enough to That's that's the thing.
Speaker 3: There's one more dude at that position doing things or something,
Speaker 3: or if there was, you know, like a fifth round
Speaker 3: pick or something that was, you know, showing you something.
Speaker 3: The d line in general, Rubio, those guys, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean you're gonna cut a good one, you are.
Speaker 2: What about Hey, what about Mason Rudolph concern? I think
Speaker 2: that's fair. Yeah, and not because anything that he's done.
Speaker 3: No, it's just but if those two are you keep three.
Speaker 2: If those two young guys do what they did on
Speaker 2: Thursday night, two more times here in pre season, and
Speaker 2: you kind of look at each other in that room
Speaker 2: and you go, and we could survive with one of
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 3: For both those guys goes down under contract more than
Speaker 3: this year or two, and they would get a little
Speaker 3: bit of cap savings.
Speaker 2: And I've been guilty of this, like I've said, what
Speaker 2: if Aaron picks up a two month injury, then obviously
Speaker 2: you'd want to have Mason Rudolph. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: if Aaron up a two month injury, your season's probably shot.
Speaker 3: Might just go to Allen.
Speaker 2: Your season's probably shot already, and maybe you want to
Speaker 2: see what one of those young guys has. So that's
Speaker 2: a that's.
Speaker 3: A real not really how this organization works.
Speaker 2: It's not, but there is a new head coach who's
Speaker 2: been tasked with finding and developing that next franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean that implies you'd punt the season if you
Speaker 3: put a young guy in instead of Rudolph if it
Speaker 3: was a long injury or a season ender in Week
Speaker 3: six or something like that. You know, I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's how it was at the same time, and
Speaker 3: the organization will go for that.
Speaker 2: And I think you're I think you're right. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you could also look at it and say,
Speaker 2: unless you're like one in five, sure, but I think
Speaker 2: you could also look at it and.
Speaker 3: Say, what an opportunity it's.
Speaker 2: It's not punting on the season. It's actually more important
Speaker 2: in the long run, you know, to get to see
Speaker 2: if one of these guys has it as opposed.
Speaker 3: It'd be great to know the answer on both those guys,
Speaker 3: a yes or a no. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 3: get those definitive answers.
Speaker 2: I don't either unless we see one of them start
Speaker 2: for six.
Speaker 3: Games, right, like the Tyler took over exactly right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly right.
Speaker 2: So that's that's an interesting one to me. I do
Speaker 2: think Mason Rudolph will be uh will be involved with
Speaker 2: an organization this fall and winter. But I am just
Speaker 2: starting to work.
Speaker 3: Where would you put Howard after least concern.
Speaker 2: After what we saw Thursday night, Concerned but closer to
Speaker 2: calm than I am worried.
Speaker 3: I'd have them firmly and concern just because like if
Speaker 3: they're only going to keep three, which maybe they will
Speaker 3: keep four, I think it's a coin flip between him
Speaker 3: and Rudolph.
Speaker 2: Yes, especially especially if they you know, internally, at the
Speaker 2: end of the preseason, they sit down and they go, Okay,
Speaker 2: two years from now, a year from now, five years
Speaker 2: from now, Drew's got the much better chance of being
Speaker 2: the guy than Will. So let's just kind of go
Speaker 2: all to make it. Let's kind of go all in
Speaker 2: on Drew. Mason's are backup, Drew's our developmental guy, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of a more natural delegation of of that.
Speaker 3: That's now most teams do yees starter the most team
Speaker 3: starters on forty two years old, but a starter that
Speaker 3: could not be there maybe, I mean even the Josh
Speaker 3: Allen world, Josh Allen is backed up by Trubisky, and
Speaker 3: then you have a fifth round pick you like, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's the way to do it, man, that's the
Speaker 2: way to do it. So we will. We'll continue to
Speaker 2: keep an eye on all these things as we roll
Speaker 2: along here. But it's getting to be about that time
Speaker 2: where some of these guys, the seats getting a little hot,
Speaker 2: and some of these games.
Speaker 3: There's concerned and worry for sure, and.
Speaker 2: For some people too though the seat's cooling off a
Speaker 2: little bit. You look at him and you go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're definitely making the team. There's kind of that ebb
Speaker 2: and flow every single day and of course every single
Speaker 2: preseason game.
Speaker 3: One last note. I know it's been a long segment,
Speaker 3: but we were trying about this last night, and that's
Speaker 3: something I've thought about for a while and I maybe
Speaker 3: even have mentioned in the last couple of days. If
Speaker 3: you were to cut Howard for whatever reason, you just
Speaker 3: choose that the other these are our best fry for
Speaker 3: now in the long term. If I'm him, I think
Speaker 3: I'm signing elsewhere. You can't just be like it's not
Speaker 3: your You don't have a right to say you can
Speaker 3: only sign on our practice squad. He is a free
Speaker 3: agent agent, yeah, and most people want to come back
Speaker 3: to the team that they worked with. And but like
Speaker 3: I saw the Panthers on Yeah, I mean he might
Speaker 3: beat like Kenny Picktt for the number two job. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of those out there, and he I mean,
Speaker 3: he'd have to look at it like I'm fourth. Here.
Speaker 2: You look in the mirror and go, They've they've chosen
Speaker 2: Drew Aller over me, and so I'm fourth.
Speaker 3: I'm fourth, I'm fourth. Where if I go to another team,
Speaker 3: I might have learned the system, but I might be
Speaker 3: third or second.
Speaker 2: I'll probably be third, and I might even be second.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, if I even if I signed the
Speaker 3: practice squad, if I'm not claimed, I don't know that
Speaker 3: i'd come back here from him. I think i'd love
Speaker 3: that would be the easy answers, like, hey, we love you,
Speaker 3: we whelready cut you go in the practice squad, and
Speaker 3: then you'll be in the mixed next year. Okay, that
Speaker 3: sounds nice.
Speaker 2: It's probably not what's best for business for you, right right, right,
Speaker 2: And it is a business after it have to you
Speaker 2: gotta think about yourself. Old.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's another old Arthur Motes line. When they when you
Speaker 2: say it's a business, they'll tell you it's just a game.
Speaker 2: But when you say it's just a game, they'll tell
Speaker 2: you it's a business. Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson. I want
Speaker 2: to go around the league here. There's some you know,
Speaker 2: we've had since the Steelers played Thursday, a lot of
Speaker 2: other preseason games. Yeah, I feel like, what's going yesterday,
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's get up.
Speaker 3: There, right. I would assume maybe I think they're so
Speaker 3: good at most nights of the week during preseason. There's
Speaker 3: something there.
Speaker 2: Are there are, but for some reason I thought that
Speaker 2: they stayed away from u from Sundays for like the
Speaker 2: start of preseason.
Speaker 3: Let me look at that. I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2: Preseason week one, Matt. It looks like all preseason Week
Speaker 2: one games are in the books.
Speaker 3: Yep, I guess they started Thursday. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. I don't see anything listed here,
Speaker 2: which is kind of surprising considering that you know it's
Speaker 2: a Sunday. Yeah right, there are no There are no
Speaker 2: preseason games scheduled for today, Sunday, August sixteenth week. Preseason
Speaker 2: Week one wrapped up on Saturday night.
Speaker 3: There's not a Monday night or there there is not.
Speaker 2: It looks like Wednesday might be. I think there might
Speaker 2: be a Wednesday night or this upcoming week, but a
Speaker 2: few days off year without a preseason game. But obviously
Speaker 2: we've got plenty to discuss as Oh no, Matt, they're
Speaker 2: bringing in reinforcements for the tarps out here. Goodness, gracious,
Speaker 2: look at this. Some of the Steelers' video crew.
Speaker 3: Is that now? Yeah? And I'm making a mess.
Speaker 2: I know, bro, This truck over the tarp. Now it's
Speaker 2: all muney.
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest. There's there's some track marks on
Speaker 3: the field itself too from the initial endeavor. Dude, we
Speaker 3: gotta be quiet. They're gonna pull us out of the
Speaker 3: booth to pull that tarp. Matt and I will be
Speaker 3: back up a break.
Speaker 2: We've been we've been summoned.
Speaker 3: Might have to list of commercials for justin.
Speaker 2: We're gonna need a forty five minute commercial break here.
Speaker 3: We'll come up here. I'll be like, look, they got Irish.
Speaker 2: Greg coming across the way here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a former player. He should be out here already.
Speaker 2: You brought me out here to pull on to tarp.
Speaker 2: There were nine people early.
Speaker 3: Video dudes, though you could be better than that.
Speaker 2: There's like seventeen now. But again, be quiet saying that.
Speaker 3: Because they're gonna grab us for sure.
Speaker 2: Costs down here for sure.
Speaker 3: Right, good thing Max is around, he'd be hauling that thing,
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, would volunteer him first?
Speaker 2: Max, turn your phone off, brother, don't do it. Don't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: Oh, this shows that they're in over their heads a
Speaker 3: little bit, because there's no way the plan was pull anyone.
Speaker 3: You can out of the building to help.
Speaker 2: They have got the equipment out, They've got all the
Speaker 2: bodies out, and we'll keep you posted on all the
Speaker 2: moving and shaking here on Saint So for a really
Speaker 2: long break.
Speaker 3: That's what happened. They try and came to grab us.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm telling you right now. It's not on my contract,
Speaker 2: all right, So I'm gonna need a nice I'm gonna
Speaker 2: need a nice bonus pay here if you want me
Speaker 2: to get out of the booth and Matt. I got
Speaker 2: into radio broadcasting so I wouldn't have to do any
Speaker 2: real work as a man like this, Okay. I don't
Speaker 2: want to do any physical labor. That's why I got
Speaker 2: into broadcasting in the first place. Oh goodness, this is incredible.
Speaker 3: I want to yell out the window so bad, but
Speaker 3: then they'll come and get us.
Speaker 2: This is incredible feeder.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Our video buddies, I'd love.
Speaker 2: To all of our video buddies are down there pulling
Speaker 2: and strength.
Speaker 3: Is TV out there?
Speaker 2: I do not see TV.
Speaker 3: Oh he's a strong lag get him out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's TV?
Speaker 1: Dodging?
Speaker 2: Is dodging his responsibilities here, I'm gonna here, comes Nate dog.
Speaker 3: Trotting crist Ah, that's a trooper, right.
Speaker 2: They start with nine guys on this crew. Now I
Speaker 2: think there's at least FIFA there's all. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen. So they've doubled their numbers since since we began.
Speaker 3: There are some fellas in the organization stronger than these dudes.
Speaker 3: Again though they wear pads and helmets on Sundays.
Speaker 2: But they also host a radio show called The Drive.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, no, I'm just kidding. Most of those dudes
Speaker 2: down there could whoop my butt. But again that's why,
Speaker 2: that's why I got into broadcast.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do manual labor. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: that ain't That ain't for me. Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson.
Speaker 2: It's The Drive. We are on tarpwatch and we have
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Speaker 2: Well, good news, folks, the grounds crew, the video crew,
Speaker 2: and some people here from Saint Vincent College. They have
Speaker 2: done it, Matt. They have untangled the hose, the garden
Speaker 2: hose that was.
Speaker 3: This massive tarbough man and we didn't get the call.
Speaker 2: We did not get the call, which for that time,
Speaker 2: I'm thankful. They are kind of blowing some last dirt
Speaker 2: and water off this thing before they'll have half the
Speaker 2: field covered. And then good news for all those guys.
Speaker 2: The other half of the field tarp is in much
Speaker 2: better condition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the video guys can go back to
Speaker 3: do video.
Speaker 2: It should be a very quick We were in breaking
Speaker 2: Matt's texting our guy TV, Like, hey TV, what the heck? Man, Oh,
Speaker 2: your boys are out there, Your boys are out there
Speaker 2: on this tar? What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Wasn't he a no lineman back in this day? I
Speaker 3: don't know it wasn't he was strapping young fella?
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, this is hilarious though.
Speaker 3: I like I, Oh, they were in a buying for
Speaker 3: a while, you know, that.
Speaker 2: Whole like watching paint dry thing. Whatever this is is
Speaker 2: like the opposite of watching paint dry. I could watch
Speaker 2: this all day. They've got big blowers out now, they're
Speaker 2: blowing all the dirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, they had to put the tractor on the
Speaker 3: tarp itself and that big muddy wheelney wheels.
Speaker 2: Now everyone's just kind of standing around waiting for these.
Speaker 3: Why do they have to wait? Though?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a big tart brother, things like fifty
Speaker 2: yards by sixty yards.
Speaker 3: It won't take long to get that mit off that way,
Speaker 3: I think. So they're doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: I tell you what, do I look at a lot
Speaker 2: of these tools that the grounds crew has around here,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, like, if I had these back home,
Speaker 2: you know how quick I could cut the grass and
Speaker 2: clean up the yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that big errator in my front yard.
Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be awesome. Grass would be looking like Tiger
Speaker 2: Woods backyard. Mhm, it's pretty good. I mean, these guys
Speaker 2: are these guys are hustling down here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on any other crazy moving and shaking. Uh.
Speaker 2: In about I think about half an hour, we're supposed
Speaker 2: to get crushed in about a half an hour. TV
Speaker 2: was texting us that there's a tornado warning heading this way.
Speaker 2: You were during break I called my wife because my wife.
Speaker 2: My wife set me a screenshot of like she got
Speaker 2: one of those imminent threat alerts on her iPhone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, critical for tornado.
Speaker 2: And then one of our neighbors, Nikki, texted like our
Speaker 2: neighborhood group chat and was like, get to the basement, guys,
Speaker 2: And so I called my wife. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: is everything okay? Like is this serious? And she was like, no,
Speaker 2: we're fine. I think Nicky was just messing around. She's like,
Speaker 2: it's it's raining hard, but it doesn't doesn't look like
Speaker 2: anything terrible.
Speaker 3: But TV was.
Speaker 2: There's a tornado warning here for like a half an
Speaker 2: hour from now. It's supposed to rain all night until
Speaker 2: like five in the morning, which explains why they're getting
Speaker 2: these tarps out to keep the field fresh for the
Speaker 2: UH rush. Yeah, the final final stretch of camp, Matt.
Speaker 2: I did want to touch on a couple I think,
Speaker 2: uh just different things from across the preseason in the
Speaker 2: NFL the last forty eight hours or so. One of
Speaker 2: them pretty cool. Yesterday, Did you see what happened in
Speaker 2: the second half with the Chicago Bears game?
Speaker 3: No, I am very out of the loop with the
Speaker 3: rest of the league, to be honest.
Speaker 2: With you, Ben Johnson gave formally of this parish Antoine
Speaker 2: randall Ll play calling duties.
Speaker 3: I love when they do that in the preseason. I
Speaker 3: get so smart.
Speaker 2: I do too, And he gave him control of the offense,
Speaker 2: control of the play calling in the second half, and
Speaker 2: all that the Bears did was score twenty four unanswered points,
Speaker 2: twelve first downs, two hundred and thirty five yards.
Speaker 3: Very cool, now, I think that's so smart by head
Speaker 3: coach is to really give an opportunity like that that
Speaker 3: everyone knows about too. I mean, you could do it
Speaker 3: behind the scenes and no one knows who's calling plays
Speaker 3: in a preseason game or whatever. But Randall Ell has
Speaker 3: a very bright future as a coach. I could see
Speaker 3: him being an offensive coordinator, maybe as soon as next year.
Speaker 2: He is man, he's sharp, and he has his stuff
Speaker 2: and I like once or he's a quarterback. He was
Speaker 2: a quarterback in college. Yep, he he's been runner up
Speaker 2: or yeah, yeah, I think he is one of the
Speaker 2: rising stars certainly the coach world, in the in the
Speaker 2: coaching world, and great to see from a guy who
Speaker 2: will always have a special place in the heart of
Speaker 2: Steelers fans who were around for that Super Bowl forty run, Matt,
Speaker 2: what'd you think of ty Simpson what we saw from
Speaker 2: him yesterday? Threw two touchdowns twenty one of twenty five,
Speaker 2: played a lot, one hundred and ninety yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no turnovers, and the Rams win over the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Well, I just mentioned I am very out of the loops.
Speaker 3: I did not see one brow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of stepped in it on that one.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I mean, when I'm home during the preseason,
Speaker 3: I just let the NFL network just because there's always
Speaker 3: a game on and you just get clips and clips
Speaker 3: and so even when I'm doing other things, it's just
Speaker 3: on in the background or ooh, I'm gonna watch this
Speaker 3: drive or you know, when I'm here, I got no chance.
Speaker 3: I mean, unless it's on at Sharky's and it happens
Speaker 3: to be a very slow night. When we're not even
Speaker 3: like chatting much, it's really hard for me to keep
Speaker 3: up for the preseason action. But I did read good
Speaker 3: things about Simpson.
Speaker 2: The stat line looked good, the highlights. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: sit there and tell you I watched every single snash obviously,
Speaker 2: but the highlights look good, the stat line look good.
Speaker 2: And you know, again that doesn't mean that all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he's the heir apparent to Matt Stafford and
Speaker 2: he's gonna be an all pro. But it's much of
Speaker 2: like we've said with with Drew Aller, Will Howard's good
Speaker 2: first step, good first showing for him. Matty, Are they
Speaker 2: have this tarp on wrong?
Speaker 3: Oh no, because this is not gonna cover fifty yards?
Speaker 2: Yeah it is? Oh oh no?
Speaker 3: I think do you think they have the bedsheet on
Speaker 3: the like the queen a.
Speaker 2: Little sticker that said top of rottom right, and then
Speaker 2: they have to turn it like? I think they have
Speaker 2: to turn it. I think they they put it definitely
Speaker 2: have to they put it horizontal when it should have
Speaker 2: been vertical.
Speaker 3: Right, it's only covering twenty five yards.
Speaker 2: Unless Matt, there's a third third we all know is.
Speaker 3: They're a mystery tarp. There could be no. I don't
Speaker 3: see it anywhere. This is too I think the thing.
Speaker 2: This is tarp nation radio unless there's also two. To
Speaker 2: be fair, there could be more. Does it like fold
Speaker 2: out or something that we haven't seen on them.
Speaker 3: There's no where they would make this mistake. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trust him on this, I think, because he
Speaker 3: definitely need to cover way past the sidelines.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't this thing be wider?
Speaker 2: It's only about forty yards.
Speaker 3: Unless this one's like seventy that's true.
Speaker 2: That is a possibility that they were.
Speaker 3: A mirror image of each other.
Speaker 2: We'll keep you posting, oh man, as we roll along,
Speaker 2: Matt our guy Jackson Dart, and I say that tongue
Speaker 2: in cheek can't stay out of his own way once again.
Speaker 2: Had to be evaluated for me, really, to be evaluated
Speaker 2: for a concussion after taking a big hit against the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3: Johnny Knoxville, that's amazing to me.
Speaker 2: It's it's insane, right, it's insane.
Speaker 3: Not that he's out there. It's just learn how to
Speaker 3: protect yourself. I mean, this is such an obvious problem
Speaker 3: with this young guy that they have high hopes for. Man.
Speaker 3: I mean, take shots on his throwing shoulder all the time,
Speaker 3: take shots to yad.
Speaker 2: He come on, dude, he's I mean, he's at least
Speaker 2: I hope he saw the guy that was blitzing and
Speaker 2: coming right at him. Like it wasn't like he got
Speaker 2: crushed on the blind side or anything like that. And like, dude,
Speaker 2: it's preseason. Just go down, give yourself up, Like, don't
Speaker 2: stand on the market there and take a big hit.
Speaker 2: No one care, like you're not trying to prove your
Speaker 2: toughness in the me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand a lot of these young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: I'm going out there with one arm and and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna improve myself to my teammates and all the wrong spot, dude,
Speaker 3: wrong spot, and coaches will tell you nowadays, this is
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy five, like we need you out there,
Speaker 3: you know, the more important just for you to play
Speaker 3: seventeen plus games.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Speaking of injuries, Marcus Mariota suffered a right I
Speaker 2: did see the sprained right knee. Will miss the rest
Speaker 2: of preseason, is expected to be ready for the opener
Speaker 2: of Sprain mcl for Marcus Mariota. And then kind of
Speaker 2: last piece of notable news Matt is that as Sean
Speaker 2: McVay has said, he's not putting any deadlines on Aaron Donald,
Speaker 2: but he hopes that the former star defensive tackle makes
Speaker 2: a decision sooner rather than later. Oh, third tarp, third tar,
Speaker 2: So now it makes sense. So they're about forty yards
Speaker 2: a piece those tars, which would cut the end zones
Speaker 2: as well, one hundred and twenty yards.
Speaker 3: Now at all that's up. I'm one nugget. I did
Speaker 3: hear about Aaron Donald, which I guess, and this is
Speaker 3: just like a podcast. I was listening to McVeigh and
Speaker 3: less Need and the people in charge how to sit
Speaker 3: down with him supposedly and said, so would you be
Speaker 3: interested in, you know, just doing third down work, playing
Speaker 3: twenty thirty snaps game closed out games for us in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, and I guess, I guess he gave
Speaker 3: them like a death stare, like how dare you do?
Speaker 3: You know who you're talking to? It's like if I'm
Speaker 3: gonna play, if I'm gonna play, I'm gonna play like
Speaker 3: I've always played and so so.
Speaker 2: I wonder if some of that is like, hey, if
Speaker 2: you don't sign till you know, if you don't sign
Speaker 2: till week four, fine, you know we'll have you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could do that right last twelve games or whatever they.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has any intentions of being like
Speaker 3: semi retired, which part time player.
Speaker 2: Which makes sense is makeup when you're when you're an
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a compliment, but when you're a
Speaker 2: like Aaron Donald, like, I don't think you want to
Speaker 2: be a part time player. You're either all in or
Speaker 2: you're all out there. Right, There's there's no in between.
Speaker 2: You don't train with knives all off season to be
Speaker 2: a part time player, right.
Speaker 3: If I'm gonna go, I'm playing heck yeah, and Niners.
Speaker 2: Somebody else to sit out who's not you know, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest defensive players that we've ever seen in
Speaker 2: NFL history. Hour in the books, two more hours to go.
Speaker 2: I want to do a little fantasy football focus with
Speaker 2: Matt when we return, and will continue to monitor all
Speaker 2: the tarp and weather situations here. It's I think they
Speaker 2: they finally worked out some kinks they got all those
Speaker 2: knots out of the hose, and now it's real easy
Speaker 2: to roll up here, you know, and get the job done.
Speaker 2: E'lert Williamson rolling along here. All part of our training
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