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Speaker 1: It's time to get out the chockboard and diagram some plays.

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Speaker 2: Here's what it all starts right here.

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Speaker 1: That's why jamiey Christmas. This is Inside Football with former

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Speaker 1: Colts and NFL coach Rick Venturie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Inside Football, everybody. We return following the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft with Rick vent Turrey, who's had ample time

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Speaker 2: to put this draft class into perspective for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor. Good to be with you. We're inside

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio and today we're

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Speaker 2: discussing the Colts twelve player draft hall from a few

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Speaker 2: weeks back and discussing the state of the Colts roster

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Speaker 2: here in the spring with r v Rick. How you

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Speaker 2: doing today on this beautiful May day in the state

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Speaker 2: of Indiana, And.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day. You can imagine. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: some ride time this afternoon on the chopper, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. You know. I had the cataract surgery

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Speaker 3: last week at the Eyes Specialists. They did a great

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Speaker 3: job for me. I'm not gonna have any excuses this

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Speaker 3: year of missing any plays from up in our high

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Speaker 3: had a great Saturday. I wasn't supposed to, but you

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Speaker 3: know me, I couldn't stay away. I had to go

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Speaker 3: out and check our guy out, Richardson. So I did

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Speaker 3: spend some time there and then I took my sherry

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Speaker 3: out too. Who's your park? Oh? And we enjoyed the

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Speaker 3: it was. It was actually a tremendous saturday, to tell

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Speaker 3: you the truth. So again I'm really back in his saddle.

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Speaker 3: And you know again, like we talked about when we

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Speaker 3: did the draft together. To me, that is to begin,

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Speaker 3: you know, of the twenty three season really now with

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Speaker 3: free agencies already happened. But in my book, it's it

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Speaker 2: I love it all right. Life is good there for

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Speaker 2: Rick Ventura. You got a little change in your pocket,

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Speaker 2: that's good. You can see better now you can see

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Speaker 2: in full effect just how good looking I am even

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Speaker 2: even more so. All Right, So I mean you got

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Speaker 2: a lot. Everything's on the up and up for you.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well let's begin We're gonna talk about Richardson obviously,

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Speaker 2: but let's begin with the draft. In totality here rick

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Speaker 2: twelve players, including nine on Day three. That was rounds

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Speaker 2: four through seven. Very clear. The Colts are, you know,

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Speaker 2: wanting to prioritize youth and a lot of upside. It's

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Speaker 2: their largest draft class in the modern seven round format.

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Speaker 2: Just there. Did you think the roster needed that much

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Speaker 2: season when they went four to twelve and one, Well, it's.

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Speaker 3: It is a kind of a wake up call, you know.

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Speaker 3: I I think numbers are overrated. I'll get into that.

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Speaker 3: But when you're for twelve and one, I mean you're

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Speaker 3: if your roster was that great, you wouldn't be four

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Speaker 3: twelve and one. So you know you've brought in prospects.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Ballard prospects are always the same. They

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's a real wake up call for everyone.

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Speaker 3: My dad always used to say it's he'd be talking

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Speaker 3: changing playmakers in the top ten picks of the roster. Now,

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Speaker 2: As we said Anthony richardson the headliner of this draft

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, and I truly believe that. But it

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Speaker 3: Throwing ability, but needed refinement. And so you're you got

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Speaker 3: But you've got a guy who was able and he

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Speaker 3: if it's accuracy, you're going to get better at it.

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Speaker 2: there's been three million dollar questions of the offseason, as

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Speaker 2: Then it's will the Colts draft the quarterback? Who will

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Speaker 2: that be? That turned out to be Anthony Richardson at

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Speaker 2: four overall. Now the third million dollar question, Rick, is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I you know, I'll just say right off

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Speaker 3: I've always believed that. You know, and this is not

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Speaker 3: You don't become a better player unless you're in there. Now.

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Speaker 3: He has to be ready, because the one thing you

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Speaker 3: And that's happened to a lot of players over the years,

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Speaker 3: all but one. He is a great kid. He is long,

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Speaker 3: tremendous length. He has a like a forty one and

431
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: a half vertical, so he can get up tremendous short shuttle.

432
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: And this is a measure of short area quickness. I

433
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: think it's four point zho five. I mean that's really fast.

434
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: When you're in the four to two's, you're fast. Four

435
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: to oh five is lightning, particularly when you're tall. That's

436
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: a hard drill. He does that, and he's really good

437
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: on tape. I mean he's good with his hands. He's

438
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: a good technician, and he's really tough. And I don't

439
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 3: think you can minimize corner toughness in modern day because

440
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: of all the quick screens that the RPOs bring, and

441
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: the quick screens and the speed sweeps the gadgets, your

442
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: corners do really have to tackle today. So I think

443
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: he brings that. The only thing that bothers me, and

444
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: it's the only probably the only area that I ever,

445
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily disagree, but you know I don't

446
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: always agree, and I make my feelings known in house. Bit.

447
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: I just treasure speed. And the only thing about Brents

448
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: is he's a four or five three. He's a little

449
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: bit over my cutoff. I do believe I'm going to

450
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: give him the benefit because of the other things that

451
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: are so good.

452
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Speaker 2: He hasspan, is that what you mean there?

453
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Speaker 3: Well, that in that short area of quickness in the

454
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Speaker 3: vertical tells me there's explosiveness and there's really quickness. So

455
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: in my sense, what I do with Brents is I

456
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: make sure that he becomes a great technician so that

457
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't get beat on release. You got what I'm saying.

458
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: So if he's in the press, his hands are flawless,

459
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: so you never get a release on him. If he's

460
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: back and pedal, his back pedal in turn is really

461
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: good because he brings everything else to it. But I

462
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: would be remiss, and you know, I am very very

463
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Speaker 3: consistent on that. I've never changed. I never have ever.

464
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Speaker 3: I've never had any luck with it corner that runs

465
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Speaker 3: slower than four or five because in the end, as

466
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Speaker 3: a rookie corner. I always say, you have to outrun

467
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: your mistakes, and you're gonna make him, and so catch

468
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: up speed is important. But I really like Brentson. And

469
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: then we came back with the guy if really good.

470
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: I think we got a real bargain on Rush. Now.

471
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: See Rush is also at six ' two, also has

472
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Speaker 3: almost thirty four inch arms. But now he's a four

473
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Speaker 3: three six. Okay. He is a blazer, you know, and

474
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: he was a receiver, so he has ball skills. He's

475
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: a tough kid. You've seen him as a gunner. I mean,

476
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: so I really like him. Now he is not as smooth.

477
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Speaker 3: He didn't have as much short airy quickness as Brents,

478
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: but he has the ketchup speed now in my book,

479
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: and this is where you know, I talked to Milus.

480
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Mileas's job is to do the little things with him,

481
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: the footwork, the quickness drills. Now, I believe you can

482
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 3: bring that on. What I can't ever coach is speed

483
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 3: and explosiveness. And I can't make you long, I mean

484
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: one or you know, I can't. I can't do those things.

485
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: So he brings that, you know, I think that he

486
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: will really be in the picture and then Jones is

487
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: the guy that is a little bit more developmental, but

488
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 3: he is a lot like Brent's he is. He's a

489
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: little bit slower, but he's really tough and physical. He

490
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: might even be an inside guy, to be honest with you.

491
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: And the other thing about the one thing I would

492
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Speaker 3: say about the numbers, which was our first question out

493
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Speaker 3: of the box, and this is where it maybe helps

494
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: a guy like Jones, and it certainly helps those guys

495
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: on those late rounds that we took flyers on. Is

496
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: you know what those expanded practice squads now, I think

497
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: they're up to almost sixteen. You really do have opportunities

498
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: to develop people, you know, if you don't feel like

499
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: they have to play right away. So but you know,

500
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: we we we had big need at corner and we

501
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: had to fill it. And you know, I think you know,

502
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: basically they love Brents and then they were able to

503
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Speaker 3: get rush. So I think you got two guys that

504
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Speaker 3: immediate or in the picture.

505
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: All right, two more guys I want to hit on specifically,

506
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: and then we'll talk maybe a big picture about the

507
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: rest of day three. But I want to talk about

508
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: Josh Downs, who is in the third round, and then

509
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Blake Freeland Downs, first wide

510
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: receiver out of North Carolina, and Ricky's kind of the

511
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: exception to the rule when it comes to Chris Ballard

512
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: drafting wideouts. Only five foot nine, a bucks seventy, but

513
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: he caught over two thousand yards in college the last

514
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: couple of years there with the Tar Hills. How much

515
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: do you think Shane Steichen had an influence on this pick?

516
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: And do you think Downs can be a starter right

517
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: away in the slot, Like, how much of a contribution

518
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: do you see out of him as a rookie at

519
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: the wide receiver spot.

520
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Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the other things that the

521
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: Colts were looking for corner obviously was huge. They wanted

522
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: offensive line depth, which we'll get into Freeland, and they

523
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: wanted explosion at wide receiver. They've got to get more explosive,

524
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: you gotta have. You know, Pierce is a deep guy.

525
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: You know Pittman is a possession guy. But they're one

526
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: trick ponies. We need somebody that can create separation and

527
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: go get it. Now. This year's draft class, okay, I'm

528
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: going around the bend, but this is important. This year's

529
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: draft class was devoid of the big outside, number one

530
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: elite guy. What this draft class had was four or

531
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Speaker 3: five really good, smaller explosive slots. No question about Flowers, Mims, Downs,

532
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: Tyler Scout out of Cincinnati. The four guys that I

533
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: thought were all in the same bucket, all really good

534
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: and could make plays. And so I think when Downs

535
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: was available, I think they had to take a corner. Two.

536
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: When Downs was available on three, I think they were

537
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: excited as all get out because you know, and I

538
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: had him rated with all those guys, and Flowers went one,

539
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Mims went two in the second round, and here's Downs,

540
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: who may be better than all of them. Bowns may

541
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: end up being the best receiver in this class. He

542
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: is just a tremendous he and and when I when

543
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: I when I saw him Sunday in person, he's even

544
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: quicker in person that he than he is on film.

545
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: And he he is a classic slot. He is a

546
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: guy that should start from day one at the slot.

547
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: He can run all the inside stuff. He's fearless, he's little,

548
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: but he's contact ready, I mean, and he'll make the pivots,

549
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: he'll make the options, the jerk routes, the two options,

550
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: and then he can get down the scene. The other

551
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: thing about him is he plays tougher and bigger than

552
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: his size. Mike Chaplin and I were sitting there and

553
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: we commented both almost simultaneously that on the roster he

554
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: has the same dimensions as t Y, but he looks

555
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: bigger than t Y for some reason, know if it's

556
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: the length of his legs or whatever. Just looks bigger

557
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: in person. But he can go get it and he

558
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: What I like about him is, even though he's not big,

559
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: he can jump out of the gym. He's got really

560
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: good speed, and he can make the circus catch. So again,

561
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Speaker 3: as I said, what excites me the most about the draft,

562
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of things I like about it,

563
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: but it excites me most is we've got a quarterback

564
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: and a receiver who can put the ball in the

565
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: end zone. Remember what I always say, Oh yeah, you

566
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: want guys who can put it in the end zone

567
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: and guys knocked the quarterback down. But I really really

568
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: like Josh Downs. I'm really happy about that.

569
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Speaker 2: One all right. In the fourth round, as I said,

570
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: the Colts drafted Blake Freeland out of BYU, big old

571
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: tackle over three hundred pounds, started over forty games in

572
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: college at BYU played both right side and left side

573
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: of the tackle position. Rick, how much can he contribute

574
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: early and which side of the line do you think

575
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: best fits his skill set in the NFL early on

576
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: in his career.

577
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think you will have to, you know, because

578
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: we haven't done very much. Really. I was hoping that

579
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: we would have done a little bit more, but it's

580
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: just it's hard to fill all those needs, particularly when

581
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: you had to get that corner. I liked, you know,

582
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: Avaloye at Guard. I liked Mock at Guard. I like guys,

583
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: but they were, you know, by the fourth round, they

584
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: were they were really eating up. Like I said, these

585
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: guys don't grow on trees. So what the Colts did

586
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: with Friedland is they got a freak athlete. I mean

587
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: he is as you gave the dimensions, but I mean

588
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: you're you're also looking at, you know, a guy that

589
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: runs a you know, a sub. You know, he runs

590
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: a sub five flat forty thirty seven inch vertical. I mean,

591
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: who does that. He's got a you know, he's really

592
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: a seven four six three cone. This is the guy

593
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: that can really move it. Now to me, as you said,

594
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: he has all those starts both at right tackle and

595
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: left tackle, so from by definition, he really is an

596
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 3: ideal swing guy to start with. Now he has some

597
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: of the same pluses in the same minuses as Ryman. Okay,

598
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: the difference is he has much more football background. Ryman

599
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: had very little, so you knew the upside was going

600
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: to be there, but he was going to have to

601
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: learn on the job. This kid comes in with a

602
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: lot more experience in a past. I mean, he's a

603
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: guy that hasn't give up hardly any sacks in his career. Now, again,

604
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: he's big and tall and rangy, but he is only

605
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: three to zero two and that's I think that's exactly

606
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: what Ryman was at the combine when he came out. Now,

607
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: the difference again is experienced, but he has some of

608
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: the same problems he does. People do get under him

609
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: sometimes and he doesn't have the power, so they're, you know,

610
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: like Ryman. Then you saw Ryman struggle with it is

611
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: he struggles with speed to power, not speed, because he's athletic,

612
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: he can get out and take you on. But he

613
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: struggled a little bit in the Senior Bowl practices with

614
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: tough rushers that came right over the top of him.

615
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: But he because of the versatility right tackle, left tackle, you

616
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: know he's gonna have you know, he's gonna be able

617
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: to be a swing guy definitely. And you know he

618
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: is in the Ballard mode what Ballard does when you

619
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Speaker 3: when you particularly after the initial lottery picks, which you're

620
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: always going to get with Ballard, and I like this,

621
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: I like this. I'm a metric guy. I am not

622
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: a dinosaur football coach. I'm a metric guy. I'm a

623
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: moneyball guy. First of all, you're always going to get

624
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: a guy with terrific metrics for his position, position metrics.

625
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: You're going to get a guy with very good football intelligence,

626
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get a guy with great football work ethic,

627
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: whether it's the seventh round pick or the fourth round pick.

628
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: And if you go through it, you know all those guys.

629
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: That's why we rank so high on the athletic quotients. Now,

630
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: the thing that to be answered and is he tough enough?

631
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: You know? Is the football instinctive you know? And is

632
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: the productive so that you know, that's the key that

633
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: has to be added. But my dad used to say

634
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: when he had a slow team, my father always used

635
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: to say if we play in a phone booth, I'm fine,

636
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: But if they move the fight across the street, I'll

637
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: never get there. Well, with the Ballard draft picks, I'm

638
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: not sure if we can necessarily win the fight, but

639
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: we're definitely gonna be able to get there. We're definitely

640
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: able to get there. And I like that because if

641
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: you're to me, when you're in doubt, you take the

642
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: athletic quotient, you know, particularly if they're a high character guy.

643
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: And you see that. You see that with the kids

644
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: from Northwestern. You see it all the way up and

645
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: down the draft.

646
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: All right, Any any other players on Day three at

647
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: a Tamawa at a bare fourth round pick at a Northwestern.

648
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: We talked about Darius Rush, Daniel Scott's safety at a

649
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: col Will Mallory the tight end out of Miami, Evan

650
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Hall running back at a Northwestern Titus Leo in the

651
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: sixth round, defensive end out of Wagner. Interesting pick there,

652
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: and then Jake Witt. Any of those guys strike out

653
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: to you, well, you.

654
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: Know, you know, I like things about all of them.

655
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: Out of Ware my Northwestern's kid, you know, he's an

656
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: interesting guy because he's he's like an athletic phenom who

657
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: didn't really ever have a position and didn't have a

658
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: lot of production. But you know, he's a guy that

659
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, has tremendous you know athleticism. You know, maybe

660
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: at the three technique he gives Buck there an extra

661
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: guy on third down or you know, so he'll be

662
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: interesting to watch. I think, you know, Scott definitely is

663
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: in the same mold as Thomas Ye that we took

664
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: last year. He'll be a you know, he's a real

665
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: he'll be a really good special teams and give us depth.

666
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any we did talk about rush,

667
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: you know, so you know, as as we keep going

668
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: on that the one thing. There's two things. Two observations

669
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: I had, Okay, One is Hull is very interesting the

670
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: kids from Northwestern. He played on bad teams here. But

671
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: you know, when I saw him, you know, he's got

672
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: a lot of production, and he has a lot of

673
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: catches and he can pass protext. So he might be

674
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: the guy that you keep as that third guy that

675
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: you can spell him on third down a little bit.

676
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: And when I was at practice Sunday, I thought he

677
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: was quicker than he looked. You know, he looked quicker

678
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: in person, you know a little bit like I said,

679
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: you know about downs, he just looked quicker running the

680
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: ball than I thought. And I think the most interesting

681
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: guy is Leo. And you're gonna hear this many times.

682
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: We finally found our Leo. You know, we even looking

683
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: for yep.

684
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Leo, Leo consumed by Leo.

685
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: Leo is gonna play Leo. And you know what I liked.

686
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: I kind of like, if you're gonna take Flyers, you

687
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: take a guy that's four to six. You know, he's

688
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: played all over the place, a little bit like E. J. Speed.

689
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: He played all over the place in college. So the

690
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: production isn't necessarily there, but you just put him on

691
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: the edge and see if he can go and see

692
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: if he can get it. And you know, the interesting

693
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: thing is that we've had two kids from the Northeast,

694
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: which and not the northeast as in Penn State, but

695
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean we got Rogers from where Hoern, New Hampshire

696
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: and UMass and then we come right back with Thomas

697
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: out of Yale, and so now we got Leo out

698
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: of Wagner, and I'm thinking, you know what, we're doing

699
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: pretty well on that third day from those Northeastern schools.

700
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe that's a good one. But I

701
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: just think the name himself and the fact that he's

702
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: raw will be interesting to watch him.

703
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. All Right, that's a little bit

704
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: of a look back at the day three picks for

705
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: the Colts in totality. So to wrap up here, Rick,

706
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: now that the draft is over, what are some areas

707
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: the Colts have to improve in on both sides of

708
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: the ball, offense and defense. I think we kind of

709
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: get lost in the Anthony Richardson pick. Now that the

710
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: draft is over, he's in at quarterback, the Colts finally

711
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: have hopefully some quarterback stability, a guy that can build

712
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 2: around for the long term. That might fix some things, yes,

713
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: but it's not the cure all with him coming in

714
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Shane Steichen's first year as a head coach,

715
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: what are some areas that have to be cleaned up

716
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: across the board this offseason for next season to go

717
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: drastically different than last year for the Colts.

718
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and I think that's a really good point, Matt.

719
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: I really do, And as I said, I really believe

720
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: with this combination of our head coach and the quarterback.

721
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: I think the land escape. It may not be tomorrow,

722
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: it may not be for a little bit, but I

723
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: think the landscape will change for the positive. I feel

724
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: really good about that. And you know me, it's unfiltered.

725
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: It's not a company line. I just feel that way.

726
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: And I also feel on the other side of it,

727
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we were a four to twelve

728
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: in one team. I think that things unraveled with all

729
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: the chaos the last five weeks, became who we were not.

730
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'm not saying that we

731
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: were a contender by any stretch. And you know, the

732
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: quarterback issues, we're gonna kill us. But we underachieved as well.

733
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: We underachieved everywhere in my opinion, and so to me,

734
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: there's seven areas of this team that really it has

735
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: to be addressed and we have to be better and

736
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: part of its scheme. Part of it is athletic quotient,

737
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: and part of it is just flat playing better on offense.

738
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: And I think obviously we are on our way with

739
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback. But I'm going to give you the big

740
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: seven things that have to get better. Number one obviously scoring,

741
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: I mean with thirtieth in scoring, sacks given up thirty first,

742
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: you know, and giveaways thirty seconds. So you know, hopefully

743
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: a new offensive staff, new quarterback, healthy Jonathan Taylor, a

744
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: possessed offensive line after last year makes that better. The

745
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: other thing I don't think we talk enough about is

746
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 3: our defense has to get a lot better. There are

747
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: some numbers that you can hang your hat on, but

748
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: in the end of the day, there were so many

749
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: games we could have won in the fourth quarter. You know,

750
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: we're still we're thirty first on defense in the fourth quarter,

751
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: and that's not holding leads. Completions against us thirty first,

752
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: and then the quarterback rating against US is number thirty.

753
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: So you know, we got to get so much better

754
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: on defense, it's not even funny. And obviously we address

755
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: the corner situation, you know, but we got to get

756
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: better rush, we got to get better everything. I don't

757
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: think there's any doubt about that, and that gets a

758
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: little bit lost. I think sometimes in part of that scheme,

759
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we really have to expand it.

760
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: There has to be a lot more variation, both in

761
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: front and coverage. I talked about it all last year,

762
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: but that that's inexcusable. You if you got to win

763
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: games in the NFL in the fourth quarter, and that

764
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: thirty first and eight point one per game in the

765
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: fourth quarter just can't last. And then probably the most

766
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: important thing, and this was really this was the tail

767
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: of the tape last year. And there's no first of all,

768
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: we can't we can only get better. But this team

769
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: went from number two to number thirty two in the

770
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: turnover differentiation last year. I mean, you know, you talked

771
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: about it all the time, the amount of funnels, the

772
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: amount of giveaways, and then you know we never took

773
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: it away and those and that to me is what

774
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: really defined the four twelve and one was the thirty

775
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: thirty second last in the league minus thirteen in take in, giveaway, takeaway,

776
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: And that's that's number one. Now, do I think we

777
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: can get better in every area? You better believe it.

778
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: But I think again, we tend to always just talk

779
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: about the quarterback, and for obvious reasons and for good reasons,

780
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of other things that have to

781
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: be addressed right now.

782
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: All right, Hey to close out here, Rick, full disclosure,

783
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: we're talking. We are recording this podcast a day before

784
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: the NFL schedule comes out, so the schedule's coming out tomorrow.

785
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: As we're sitting here talking now, this is Wednesday. Everybody's

786
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: previewing this schedule coming out. And if you look at

787
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: the Colts schedule for next season on paper, they have

788
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: the fourth easiest schedule in twenty twenty three based on

789
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: winning percentage of their opponents from last year. The Colts

790
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: are gonna play only five games against playoff teams from

791
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: last year. They're gonna play twelve games twelve of their

792
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: seventeen games next season against teams that finished under five

793
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty twenty two. But as you know, Rick,

794
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 2: and as I know, you can't really put that much

795
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: into that because you know I love Nuggets, right, So

796
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: here's a nugget. The average margin of victory in a

797
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: game last year and the regular season in the NFL

798
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: was nine point seven points, the league's lowest for a

799
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: full season since nineteen thirty two. Also, last year, the

800
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: NFL set a single season record for most games decided

801
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: by eight or fewer points or in other words, one score,

802
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: with one hundred and fifty six games, and the Colts

803
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: were case in point. Last season, the Colts lost six

804
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: games by seven points or less, including three by just

805
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: a single point all of those home games. So you're

806
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: exactly right. I mean everything comes down to the little things.

807
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Taking care of the football, explosive plays, protecting the quarterback.

808
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: That just highlights everything you mentioned for the Colts to

809
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: try to clean up all of those little mistakes and

810
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: little areas that doomed them last year, and resis into

811
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: four twelve and one.

812
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: No, there is any doubt about it. You know, in

813
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: many cases you have to throw out that preseason ranking

814
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: of schedules. First of all, there's so many changes. Uh,

815
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: there's so much turnover on rosters now that there never

816
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: used to be. And even in my day, even in

817
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: my day, you know, seventy five percent of games were

818
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: one possession games. I mean it's you know, it is

819
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: that the complete competitive balance league. I mean you talked

820
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: about the one point games that we lost, the you know,

821
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: the disaster in Minnesota. We were with Dallas tide at

822
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 3: the end of the third quarter. I mean, we beat

823
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and we're one play away from beating the Eagles,

824
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: two teams in the Super Bowl. So you know, there

825
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: is just so much competitive balance. You really don't know

826
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: what you do know, though, is it really and truly,

827
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: the two things that are most important to you is

828
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: your turnover ratio and your fourth quarter defense. That's the

829
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: most important thing because when you get to those close games,

830
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: those are the things that winning and losing. And that's

831
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: why I brought up those statistics. Fourth quarter defense. You

832
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: gotta be able to hold the lead and basically you

833
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: don't turn it over and then you take it away.

834
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: And I think that's really the big picture because that's

835
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: where the close games are won and lost.

836
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Yep, turnovers, fourth quarter defense, all of that giveaway, takeaway,

837
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback. All Right, Rick, closing out here, what

838
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: do you have in store this summer? Big summer plans

839
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: that we should know about before we talk to you

840
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: again soon.

841
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're just chilling out here in India.

842
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: I May. I probably will take a trip out to

843
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: visit my superstar daughter out in San Francisco, out in

844
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: South Toledo, yep, probably around the fourth. But you know,

845
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: we'll just be hanging out here, got my grandkids and

846
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: down the street. So you know, i'd like love the

847
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: motorcycling in the summer here in Indianapolis. Month of May

848
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: is great. So yeah, we're just kind of anchored in now.

849
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: And you've also become a lacrosse expert. I tooked.

850
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my grandson is playing lacrosse. He loves it.

851
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: I love it. Oh my god. I'm you know me,

852
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: I get obsessed with something when I my wife just says,

853
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: you're just so obsessed, you know. And I and once

854
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: once I got this lacrosse fever. Christ I'm watching it

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Speaker 3: on ESPN two on the weekend. I mean, I mean, god,

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Speaker 3: you know between you know, the only thing it distracts

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Speaker 3: me from because the other thing both Miss Sherry and

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Speaker 3: I love. And I've already I've already let it out

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Speaker 3: of the bag. We love horse racing. So this is

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Speaker 3: the you know, the Triple Crown week, although both both

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Speaker 3: forte and two Pills are not running in the Freakness

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Speaker 3: next week. So Sharry and I have been to the

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Speaker 3: Preakness too in Baltimore. We've been to the Derby. I

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Speaker 3: just love it. And you know what I do. I

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Speaker 3: study it. She my wife makes fun of me. I

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Speaker 3: study it like I do football. I mean, you know me,

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Speaker 3: I know the track, I got the pedigree, I got

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Speaker 3: the history on the horse. I mean, and it does

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Speaker 3: make me any better. But it makes it makes a

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Speaker 3: lot of.

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Speaker 2: It makes your wallet better and fatter.

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Speaker 3: And I love, I love little Who's your park? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm there as much as I can be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, summer plans with Rick vent Turrey. He's a busy man.

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Speaker 2: He's also a fantastic grandfather as well, my friend. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: the knowledge on the draft class and the breakdown as always,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you as soon as the Colts

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Speaker 2: wrap up OTAs in the offseason workout program in a

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Speaker 2: few weeks.

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Speaker 3: All right, Matt, trying to figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: relax a little bit. You got it works so hard.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Likewise, my friend, that's Rick vent Turrey,

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Speaker 2: as always, loving the breakdown of the knowledge here on

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Speaker 2: Inside Football for Rick, I'm Matt Taylor. Reminder, we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot more coming up later this week. The NFL schedule,

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Speaker 2: as we said, that's coming out tomorrow Thursday. We'll have

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Speaker 2: plenty of reaction to that, and we'll also have an

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Speaker 2: interview with the Colts a veteran player this week. I

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Speaker 2: believe that's going to be Bernard Rayman. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be excited about somewhat going back home this year in

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Speaker 2: November to play close to home growing up in Austria

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Speaker 2: as the Colts have that international game in Germany. And then,

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Speaker 2: of course the last word is coming back on Friday

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Speaker 2: again for Rick Ventury. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: to Inside Football right here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: So long at the sand Sister, the start sellers still

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Speaker 2: there and stand