WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Assistant GM Dave Sears Unpacks Cardinals Draft 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.359 Stramp on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:05.240 Hol On ahead. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.560 He got jacked. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.840 This is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Bard 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.320 and Gilbert Smurry's. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.280 Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.880 Like a torpedo. 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Yeah, fake football GM. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.559 That is hashtag fugazy. But Wolf, we ain't talking about 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:19.080 your fantasy football drafts around here. We're talking about drafts 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.880 in April, the real deal, when the picks determined not 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.560 only your NFL team, your football future, but your GM's 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.280 NFL career, and the Cardinals just made the most picks 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.400 they've ever made in a single draft since nineteen ninety two. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.560 And I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, because I think that 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.120 was the year you left in free agency, so they 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:40.679 under started. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.160 As a matter of fact, Paulie, it was yes, there 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.720 you go, interesting, all right? 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.720 So here we go. It is the Big Red Rage, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.600 presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we are. Santan Ford 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:55.880 will be joined momentarily by the assistant general manager, Dave Sears. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.680 We're not allowed in the war room, but guess what next, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.520 best thing, we'll talk to some and who was in 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.240 there and a pivotal part of everything that went on. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.320 In fact, it was the pivot point in the draft 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 and number four overall. And speaking of we a Q 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.360 and A with MHJ. Marvin Harrison Junior. We'll hear from 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.000 him a little bit later in this absolutely loaded edition 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.160 of The Big Red Rage coming off the twenty twenty 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.160 four NFL Draft. 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.639 You know one of the things I love, too, Paul 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.560 about this draft. Of course, last year in twenty twenty three, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.920 you had maniasin Ford. He was moving all over the place. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.239 Remember that BOLLI moving back, and then he was moving 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.440 back up and he got Paris Johnson Junior at number six, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.880 and he collected a BIVI of draft capital as well. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.359 He did a lot of moving around in that first round, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.120 and I love the fact that he didn't do that 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.600 this time around. This time around, he just stayed there 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.639 right at number four and number twenty seven and made 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.239 their picks. I like to see the versatility of maniasin 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.400 for it, even though he did dial it up in 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.320 day two. I like to see the versatility in a 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:58.239 different approach. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.320 Yeah, you got the quality and you got the quantity. Right, 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.200 you got arguably the best player in the draft, non quarterback, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.919 Marvin Harrison Junior. We'll talk a lot about him coming 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.840 up a little bit later. Look, there are just certain 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.760 positions or certain players. I guess you should say that 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.560 you just can't replace that quantity. Will never replace the 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.880 quality of a Larry Fitzgerald, for example, to use a 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.280 comparison of parallel. So I get it in hindsight, I 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.040 get it now. There are reports that certain teams like 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.840 Minnesota were willing to give up three first round picks 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.840 to come up to number three, and New England but 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.000 maybe that's as far as those teams wanted to go. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.720 Maybe for as much love and pub as JJ McCarthy got. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.760 Maybe some of those teams who were willing to come 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.880 up only we're willing for one of the Big three. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.600 We'll never know, But there was a lot more beyond that, Wolf. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.400 And to me, when you look at this entire class, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.640 twelve picks in total, there's just so much intrigue. There's 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.240 so many guys who have so many intriguing measurables right 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.240 and accomplishments and in the mindset, and it's just it's 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.760 going to make for really interesting training camp. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.120 Yeah. No, you're right about that, Paully. But can I 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.680 also say this right here too, in regard to Monti 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.880 asin Ford sitting there at number four, Boy, he was 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.800 he was in such a good spot, right, Polly. I mean, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.159 it was gonna be a situation where they were most 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.240 likely going to get Marvin Harrison Junior, or they were 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.800 going to get three number ones and a lot more 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.839 after that. Who knows what kind of change that would 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.000 have cost. But when you stop and think about it 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.680 right now, they really were operating from a position of 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.120 strength in this draft, and I think It's one of 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.120 the reasons why Monni said, Hey, you know what, don't 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.560 call me until we're on the clock. I don't even 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.680 want to talk about it. You better come with your 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:44.400 best offer. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.320 We had the pleasure of opening up the draft party. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.240 Did we not yes? And did you not sense that 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.279 the Red Sea was ready? Was clamoring for Marvin Harrison Junior. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.279 There's no doubt about it. They wanted Marvin Harrison junior. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.920 Paul Honestly, if they didn't, he didn't pick him when 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.840 they had the opportunity to. Who knows, run Baul. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.799 So look, we're gonna hear it from the Cardinals first 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.800 pick in this draft a little bit later. Right now 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.400 here is the GM Monti Austin for it, because inevitably 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.919 he gets asked the question from the media, you know 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.479 about evaluating this year's draft class. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.640 Can we talk again in two years? It's crazy to say, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.119 but we win win. Our scouts grade, We always grade 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.120 what's this player going to be in by year two? 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.760 From college the NFL That first year that's a that's 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.600 a huge jump for these guys. It's a mental change, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.960 it's a physical change. They got to learn how we 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.440 do things. They got to learn our scheme and it's 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:37.120 a lot. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:37.680 All right. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.240 So look, the Ringer gave the Cardinals an A plus 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.240 Pete Prisco, normally not all that up in terms of 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.760 being positive with anything in the NFL, gave the Cardinals 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.000 a straight A Chad Ruter NFL dot Com and a 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.400 minus Field Yates, My favorite draft was the Cardinals. And 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:58.000 he actually cited the round three picks in Yes, you know, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.960 and MANI joked that he got behind on his snap 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.160 in round three because the girlinls had four, count them, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.960 four round three picks. So Wolf, you tell me Max Melon, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.919 Trade Benson, Isaiah Adams, Tip Ryman, I mean, tell us 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.640 about some of those guys and what stood out to you. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.640 Yeah for me, Paul, Right now, I've got to focus 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.880 on the third round. The first three picks of that 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:24.080 third round, Trey Bnson, Isaiah Adams the guard out of Illinois, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.400 and Tip Ryman the tight end out of Illinois as well. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.719 Those three picks right there, when I saw it, I 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.800 pretty much lost my mind. Paul. I will admit that 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.599 this was a statement of purpose by Manti asin Ford 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.960 right here, those three picks to get Trey Benson a 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.680 running back out of Florida State, the second running back 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.520 taken in this draft. Stop and think about that. Yeah, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.080 but here's a guy that has put together a big 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.560 unit six feet two hundred and sixteen pounds. Now he's 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.520 not exactly James Connor. Yet at the same time, what 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.920 a gift to Tray Benson that he's going to have 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.400 a mentor in James Connor to learn from coming into 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.159 the National Football League. I think he makes an immediate 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.560 impact this season as a rookie. I think Isaiah Adams 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.560 and Tip Ryman, these two guys bring physicality to the 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.880 front for the Arizona Cardinals. And I think ultimately, and 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.160 we'll get into this a little bit later in this 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.640 beautiful broadcast, but I think, honestly, tip Ryman could be 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.800 the pass up part two to twelve personnel in the 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.640 Arizona Cardinals having one of the most physical offenses in 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.040 the National Football League. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.600 You already had the fourth ranked rushing attack in the 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.320 NFL last year, number two in rushing yards per carry, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.320 number one in twenty plus yard runs. So now you 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.960 had a Trey Benson a Tip Ryman. To me, it 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.240 was Max Melton, who was pick number forty three overall 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.840 and just everything I'm hearing about you like that one, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.720 love this one, and you just a was a need 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.920 you have Sean Murphy bunting and then okay, Garret Williams 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.360 is your nickel, but he played half a season, so 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.360 all right, you need someone to come in and just 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.720 command that position and everything you hear. And we're gonna 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.920 ask Dave Sears, the assistant GM, about him momentarily. But 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.120 I mean his athleticism scores are through the roof. He's 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.320 really experienced. He's gotten props and praise from Marvin Erison Junior. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.239 They locked up a few times during their college careers 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.840 in the Big Ten, so he's ultra competitive. I just 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.320 want to see him come in and do what so 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.760 many of the rookies did last year. Compete. And this 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.520 coaching staff, JG has proven it. If you can play, 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.680 you will play right away. Key Trell Clark started from 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.360 day one, Michael Wilson started from day one. Obviously, Paris 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.800 Johnson Junior was your starting right tackle from day one. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.720 Here's Kyle brand on the NFL Network. This was during 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.800 the draft coverage, right and he just said, zoom out 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.440 on the direction the Cardinals are headed. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.000 I'm ready for the twenty twenty four Arizona Cardinals. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:50.920 Let's get into this. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.319 I have a soft spot for last year's Cardinals. I 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.400 think they were the toughest four win team I've ever seen. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.040 They had quality wins over the Cowboys and the Steelers. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.080 They I think they really matter, and I think they 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.120 annihilated their draft. They get the Marvin Harrison junior pick, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.000 It's great, it's like probably the best player in the 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:06.760 entire draft. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.079 And then Darius. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.080 Robinson the defensive out of Missouri, Max Melton from Rutgers 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.720 for three, trade Benson the running back. I feel like, man, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.320 the Cardinals, I think are really lining up really nicely. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.960 History says every year there's one team that goes from 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.520 worse to first. Last year it was the Houston Texans. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.960 And what do they do with the second pick overall? 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.520 They had the offensive rookie of the year. With a 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.680 third pick overall, they had the defensive rookie of the year. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.560 So if Maniacibor is able to string together these two 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.400 draft classes plus the additions in free agency, once again, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.440 it's just the intrigue of where this is indeed all heading. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.480 Yeah, no, Paully, you're right about that. It is. But 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:45.559 you know me, you know the way I feel a 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.959 lot of this even Yeah, I love some of these picks. Okay, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.120 Tip Ryman is a guy. Again, We're gonna get into 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.880 him here momentarily. But can I just tell you right now, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.040 I have to adopt the prove it rookie mentality? Can 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.400 I do that, Paul? Is that okay? If I do that, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.400 I just I've seen way too many guys come into 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.280 the league and for whatever reason, things just don't work out. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.640 They don't play like they actually did in college. They 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.360 their tape in college is totally disparate from what actually 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.160 happens on a football field at the NFL level. So again, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.720 I'm just going to adopt the skeptics approach and say, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.800 prove it to these rookies, and it's something that's I'm 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.840 very very confident many of them will do because of 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.520 the vetting that Manti as I, Forton JG have in 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.720 regard to is this guy a culture fit for us here? 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.760 Is he going to be a guy that is going 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.480 to play the game of football with everything he's got? 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.840 Is he going to be that guy or not? That's 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.439 part of the culture of the Arizona Cardinals. And they 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.240 vet them very very well before they bring him in, Paul. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.840 And look, every single coach made you prove it, and 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.480 Jonathan Ronan is going to make these guys prove it. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.600 There's no doubt about it. Once again, that intrigue between 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.600 what's on the roster, and then you look at the 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.000 schedule and some of the team's coming to the az 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.679 and look, now you have a chance to be among 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.120 the first to buy Cardinals single game tickets. Remember, this 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.160 NFL schedule is gonna draft, is gonna drop here in 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.920 the next two weeks or less, we're told. So your 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.120 register now you get single game ticket purchase links sent 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.079 right to you as soon as the schedule is released. 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That 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.679 is next on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.720 Ford in Gilbertez. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:08.320 Open Hamson Marvin Harrison Junior, milk chance touchdown Ohio State. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:14.240 Under pressure, he does he throws end zone touchdown. Marvin 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:21.439 Harrison Junior marvelous. Marvin Harrison very taking down. He's come 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.360 part of the trailer. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.720 Darius Robinson comes up with a set rattler on third 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.440 and six, pockets collapsing. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.400 So is hey, it's Darius Robinson that gets home. Oh 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.560 look it right, Rose dangerous. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.040 Ye have picked off. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:37.520 By Max Melton. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.239 This roll is picked off. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.000 Malachai Melton, Carmy. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.920 Max count its Trey Penson off to the raceist one. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.000 Gotta be high stipping. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:55.319 He got smoked from the rookies. Touchdown eighty five yards 0:12:55.520 --> 0:13:03.480 as first down, still running, Trey Penson cat track tax 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.520 senter pfensive. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:10.360 That's the first four of an NFL high twelve picks, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.680 the Cardinals first four selections, as the first team to 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:19.080 have seven picks in the top ninety since nineteen ninety one, 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.240 six offensive players, six defensive players makes a dozen and 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.000 we've got at least a dozen questions for the assistant 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.520 general manager, Dave Sears, who joins us on the Big 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.800 Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We are 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.440 santan Ford, Davey, have you recovered from it? Was so 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.880 fast and furious and MONI said, with four picks in 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.480 round three, for example, he got behind on his snacking. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.840 That's how That's how busy you guys were in that 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:44.679 war room. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.640 I do not get behind my snacking. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.959 That's good. That's good, all right. So look, we're never 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.200 gonna get access into a war room, so we're gonna 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.360 live vicariously through you. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:54.840 Sure? 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.359 And what just give us a couple of quick takeaways? 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.839 I mean, did this class distinguish itself beyond just the volume, right, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.840 twelve picks? Anything else? Stand about this class compared to 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.360 maybe others in your career. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.400 Not specifically in that regard. I think just the way 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.920 this draft fell, it really fell to our board, and 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.439 I think we avoided reaches. We didn't have to panic. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.320 We were very prepared. We're always prepared. But compared to 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.400 some drafts I have been in where you're not really 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.000 excited about who you're taking. At a certain point, you're just 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.960 taking the best guy on your board, so to speak. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.160 We're really excited about all the guys we got this year, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.600 and that's not, you know, just hyperbole. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.000 You know, otherwise you probably would have traded some of 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.480 those picks right. And some of these guys, it's interesting 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.840 because a lot of them spent four to six years 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.800 in college, and I'm curious how far back do your 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.200 notes go, you know, as a personnel department, how long 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.640 you've been tracking most of these players. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.400 You know, multiple years minimum. Sometimes some of these guys 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.320 that have been six year guys, it might be three 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.800 years where we may have anticipated possibly in early out underclassmen. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.280 And we did some filmwork on the guy, so you know, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.240 a guy like Xavier Thomas, I know, Mini made the 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.800 comment we feel like we've been scouting him along. We 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.680 have been scouting him a long time, so we're very 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.080 familiar with that player. There wasn't really a point of 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.280 emphasis to take guys with this much experience. I think 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.920 because of the volume of picks we had, you can 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.240 make a lot of tie ins to certain players. Just 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.280 because we took twelve guys, So there's going to be 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.720 commonalities there. The commonality there's going to be more so 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.480 in terms of the quality of player. We thought they 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.680 were the necessarily experience. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.400 You know what's remarkable, And I mentioned when you came in, Hey, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.960 there was no snow in Detroit. That was the good news. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.960 You spent all those years of the Lions, sixteen years 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.480 before you rejoined Mania support here in the az They 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.040 set a draft attendance record of nearly eight hundred thousand 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.720 fans and there were nearly eight hundred thousand mock drafts 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.680 leading up to their How do you explain the insatiable 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.440 appetite for fans in the draft? I find it amazing. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:54.960 How about you? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.000 Yeah, well, it was really awesome to see all those 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.320 still shots and camera shots of Detroit really out of 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.320 those guys, and I think that has a lot to 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.480 do with what Dan and Brad, Chris Pielman, you know, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.360 all those guys up there. I was around those guys. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.760 The positive energy, what they're doing with that team, the 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.960 excitement that the city now has about the Lions is 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.360 I think very responsible for what they did in downtown. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:18.920 People love the draft. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.600 I think it's exciting. I think it's everybody can envision 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.000 themselves in a general manager chair easier than they can 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.760 envision themselves, you know, rushing an eighty r touchdown. You know, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.720 like there's no specific physical qualities to be a general manager. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.400 So I think people have a lot of fun with it. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.480 You see all the mock drafts. There's just always been 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.960 an interest in it, you know. I mean, it's really 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.560 not as exciting as people think it is. It's not 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.080 even close for the most part. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.560 But and everybody does fantasy football, right, So okay, you're right, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.720 you're right. They extrapolate Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.520 All right, so you mentioned Chris Spielman. Give us this 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.680 scot of report on yourself as a former college inside 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.200 linebacker at Springfield in Massachusetts. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.240 Yeah, slow, small, lack length. It's tough and instinctive, though, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:04.640 there you go. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.400 I see. And at what point did you see yourself 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.360 in a war room? At what point did you think, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.040 you know what? I'd love to do that for a living. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.359 I was always into the draft. I could probably I 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.440 grew up actually a Denver Broncos fan. I could probably 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.280 tell you everybody that was on their roster at any 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.120 given point. I was kind of a nerd like that. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.560 I really loved watching the games, but almost watched it 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.600 like a scout at times, studying individual matchups things like that. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.760 Always felt I had an eye for that kind of 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.320 stuff and could always knew I wanted to work in sports, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.920 specifically football, and so I didn't know, Hey, I want 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.520 to be an area scout or something like that. I 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.440 didn't really know what the roles in the business were, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.639 but I remember Charlie Casseley came and talked at Springfield College. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.479 That's who originally hired me, and I knew kind of then, like, hey, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.040 this is really something I'd like to pursue. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.080 Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager. Let's start right at 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.040 the top. Marvin Harrison Junior, And here's my question. Forget 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.399 about comparing him to this year's class. How does he 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.040 compare to other receivers in your career? Because that's what 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.000 you hear with him. Generational player. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.359 Yeah, I mean that term probably gets thrown out a 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.760 little more than it should. But Marvin, I think in 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.119 any given class, as a top ten pick, you know, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.840 he has that feel. He's got size, he's got speed, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.800 he's got the production. You put on the tape, the 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.080 guy jumps off the tape, he's got Hall of Fame lineage. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.880 I mean, there's not a lot of boxes you can't 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.760 check with Marvin, the character of the work, ethic, the intelligence. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.200 So is he the best? 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.399 I mean you can always argue that kind of stuff, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.040 but he's in that conversation, and certainly. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.479 When he's a freshman and he's competing against Garrett Wilson 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760 and Chris Olave and Jackson Smith and Jigmu and all 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.240 these first round picks, I mean, you know, the competitive 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.320 fire has got to be there, correct, Yeah. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.359 I mean that place has just been a wide receiver 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.000 factory the last few years and a player factory for 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.119 a long time. So when a guy does what he 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.960 does there and just immediately makes an impact, that's something 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:54.639 you take notes of. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.680 The second interior defensive lineman selecting this draft, Darius Robinson 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.840 at number twenty seven. He was sitting right there and 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.480 asked him, all right, every player takes on bridge with something, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.639 there's Scott and report. What didn't you like about what 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.119 was said about you? He said, you know what, he like, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.320 everyone made a big deal about my performance of the 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.240 Senior Bowl where he was voted Player of the Week, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.240 because that was me every week. What'd you see on 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:15.520 film with Darius Robinson? 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.640 I think what stands out is right off the bat, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.919 the guy's got a motor like you notice how active 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.640 he is, his versatility from year to year, the way 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.919 he's basically played every alignment you could play on the 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.960 defensive line. Then this year he stood up more, which 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.800