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Speaker 7: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: And Ron Woolf play.

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Speaker 7: Everybody is a football GM in August. Yeah, fake football GM.

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Speaker 7: That is hashtag fugazy. But Wolf, we ain't talking about

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Speaker 7: your fantasy football drafts around here. We're talking about drafts

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Speaker 7: in April, the real deal, when the picks determined not

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Speaker 7: only your NFL team, your football future, but your GM's

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Speaker 7: NFL career, and the Cardinals just made the most picks

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Speaker 7: they've ever made in a single draft since nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 7: And I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, because I think that

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Paulie, it was yes, there

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Speaker 7: will be joined momentarily by the assistant general manager, Dave Sears.

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Speaker 7: We're not allowed in the war room, but guess what next,

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Speaker 7: In fact, it was the pivot point in the draft

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Speaker 1: You know one of the things I love, too, Paul

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Speaker 1: about this draft. Of course, last year in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the quality and you got the quantity. Right,

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Speaker 7: you got arguably the best player in the draft, non quarterback,

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Speaker 7: up a little bit later. Look, there are just certain

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Speaker 7: you just can't replace that quantity. Will never replace the

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Speaker 7: We'll never know, But there was a lot more beyond that, Wolf.

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Speaker 7: And to me, when you look at this entire class,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're right about that, Paully. But can I

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Speaker 1: the reasons why Monni said, Hey, you know what, don't

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Speaker 7: We had the pleasure of opening up the draft party.

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Speaker 7: Did we not yes? And did you not sense that

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. They wanted Marvin Harrison junior.

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Speaker 1: Paul Honestly, if they didn't, he didn't pick him when

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Speaker 7: So look, we're gonna hear it from the Cardinals first

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Speaker 7: here is the GM Monti Austin for it, because inevitably

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Speaker 7: So look, the Ringer gave the Cardinals an A plus

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Speaker 7: minus Field Yates, My favorite draft was the Cardinals. And

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Speaker 7: he actually cited the round three picks in Yes, you know,

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Speaker 7: four round three picks. So Wolf, you tell me Max Melon,

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Speaker 1: Yeah for me, Paul, Right now, I've got to focus

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Speaker 1: this was a statement of purpose by Manti asin Ford

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Speaker 1: beautiful broadcast, but I think, honestly, tip Ryman could be

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Speaker 7: You already had the fourth ranked rushing attack in the

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Speaker 7: I mean his athleticism scores are through the roof. He's

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Speaker 7: Here's Kyle brand on the NFL Network. This was during

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Speaker 10: I'm ready for the twenty twenty four Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 7: Let's get into this.

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Speaker 10: I have a soft spot for last year's Cardinals. I

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Speaker 10: They had quality wins over the Cowboys and the Steelers.

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Speaker 7: History says every year there's one team that goes from

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Speaker 7: So if Maniacibor is able to string together these two

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Speaker 7: it's just the intrigue of where this is indeed all heading.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Paully, you're right about that. It is. But

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Speaker 1: They don't play like they actually did in college. They

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Speaker 7: Marvin Rison junr. Forget how he rates in this year's draft.

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Speaker 7: How does he rate in your career? Dave Sears. That

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Speaker 4: Open Hamson Marvin Harrison Junior, milk chance touchdown Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Under pressure, he does he throws end zone touchdown. Marvin

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Speaker 2: Darius Robinson comes up with a set rattler on third

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Speaker 7: So is hey, it's Darius Robinson that gets home. Oh

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Speaker 5: Ye have picked off.

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Speaker 4: By Max Melton.

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Speaker 5: This roll is picked off.

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Speaker 2: He got smoked from the rookies. Touchdown eighty five yards

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Speaker 7: santan Ford, Davey, have you recovered from it? Was so

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Speaker 6: I do not get behind my snacking.

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Speaker 7: That's good. That's good, all right. So look, we're never

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 7: And what just give us a couple of quick takeaways?

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Speaker 6: Not specifically in that regard. I think just the way

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Speaker 6: You know, multiple years minimum. Sometimes some of these guys

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Speaker 7: You spent all those years of the Lions, sixteen years

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Speaker 7: leading up to their How do you explain the insatiable

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it was really awesome to see all those

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Speaker 11: People love the draft.

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Speaker 6: I think it's exciting. I think it's everybody can envision

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Speaker 6: You see all the mock drafts. There's just always been

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Speaker 7: But and everybody does fantasy football, right, So okay, you're right,

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Speaker 7: you're right. They extrapolate Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager.

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Speaker 7: All right, so you mentioned Chris Spielman. Give us this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, slow, small, lack length. It's tough and instinctive, though,

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Speaker 7: I see. And at what point did you see yourself

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Speaker 7: you know what? I'd love to do that for a living.

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Speaker 6: I was always into the draft. I could probably I

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Speaker 7: Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager. Let's start right at

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Speaker 7: the top. Marvin Harrison Junior, And here's my question. Forget

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that term probably gets thrown out a

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's not a lot of boxes you can't

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Speaker 7: So is he the best?

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Speaker 6: I mean you can always argue that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 7: When he's a freshman and he's competing against Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 7: The second interior defensive lineman selecting this draft, Darius Robinson

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Speaker 7: All right, so you guys get Marvin Harrison junior, you

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's there's always going to be some

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Speaker 7: A McKinstry, at forty two, Kamari Lasser. All of a sudden,

436
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 7: there's a run on corners right in front of the

437
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 7: Cardinals at forty three. I mean, just in general, how

438
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 7: often does that happen? How often do you have to

439
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 7: you think it's training one way and then instantly you

440
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 7: got to pivot another direction.

441
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're always ready, or you should always

442
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 6: be ready for what happens. And that's why you stack

443
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 6: your board, That's why you do it over years, over

444
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 6: months leading into the drafts. So there shouldn't you shouldn't

445
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 6: be emotional about it, and it should simply be if

446
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 6: the guy you are about to pick goes, the next

447
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 6: card comes off the board, it should be as calculated

448
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 6: as that. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes you fall in love

449
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 6: with players which you want to stay away from because

450
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 6: you end up paying too much for the shoes, which

451
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 6: Dave or as a scout buddy of mine, likes to say.

452
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 6: You want to avoid doing that, and so you want

453
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 6: to just try and keep the emotion out of it

454
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 6: and just stay with your board.

455
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 7: Give me a quick word on pick number forty three,

456
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 7: Max Smelton, because a lot was made about his performance

457
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 7: two years in a row against Marvin Harrison Junior in

458
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 7: their Big Ten matchups.

459
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's certainly a tape you're gonna watch. Anytime you're

460
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 6: scouting these players, you look for matchups because you want

461
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 6: to compare best on best. You want to see the

462
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 6: good opponent tapes, and he performed really well in those matchups.

463
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Speaker 6: He's a guy that we like the athleticism. He's the

464
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 6: only guy at the combine. I think that ran for

465
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 6: four forty in broad jump eleven, which is insane athletic ability.

466
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 6: We think that's in his body. We think we can

467
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 6: continue to develop the guy. He's been developed really well

468
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 6: to this point. He's played a lot of games. I

469
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 6: think I think he started forty games at Rutgers. He's

470
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 6: got four block kicks, excellent special teams player. So there's

471
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Speaker 6: gonna be a lot of ways in which we feel

472
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Speaker 6: like Max can contribute to us.

473
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Speaker 7: Hey, Dave Sears is our guest in the Big Red

474
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Speaker 7: Rage Cardinals assistant general manager. I'm gonna skip around a

475
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Speaker 7: little bit because you know JG mentioned to the media

476
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 7: you can see a pattern and a lot of the picks,

477
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 7: and then we tried to sort of fill in the

478
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Speaker 7: blanks on that what he meant by that, And you

479
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 7: know they like to use the term all ball. You know,

480
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 7: I just get the sense for these this team, in

481
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 7: this front office, you better be deadly serious about football,

482
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 7: better have the physicality. And we look at round three

483
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 7: pick Tip Ryman out of Illinois, the tight end, and

484
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 7: not only is he six five two seventy one, but

485
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 7: I see a next gen stat that his athleticism score

486
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 7: was above and beyond brock Bauers. So please tell us

487
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Speaker 7: about Tip Ryman. Yeah, well, hopefully you don't.

488
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 6: See too much of a pattern so people don't know

489
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 6: what we're gonna take. But yeah, Tip is a guy

490
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 6: that we really liked. The tape and the receiving production

491
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 6: quote unquote in terms of statistical production wasn't quite at

492
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 6: the level some of these other prospects, but that because

493
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 6: he's not involved in much as much in the Illinois

494
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 6: scheme doesn't mean he can't do it. And at the

495
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 6: East West we really got a feel for Hey, this

496
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 6: guy can run routes, he's got good speed, he can

497
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 6: catch the ball. He really kind of showed that off.

498
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 6: When you combine that with the level of blocking with

499
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Speaker 6: our system that I think we were number one in

500
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Speaker 6: the league in thirteen personnel last year. We've were on

501
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 6: a lot of twelve personnel, so we're gonna play a

502
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 6: lot of tight ends. We have a very good young

503
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 6: tight end room with all the guys we got in

504
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: that room. You know, Higgins, White, hard vocalect and of

505
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 6: course Trey really exploded last year. So this guy's going

506
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 6: to be a nice piece. He gives us some more

507
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 6: versatility and just increases the competition an already strong room.

508
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 7: We feel like, let's go back to Xavier Thomas freshman

509
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 7: All American as you mentioned, but that was a while ago.

510
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 7: He was you know, six years and I mean coming

511
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 7: out of high school. He's ready to ahead of Micah Parsons.

512
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 7: So in terms of athletic ability, what is this ceiling

513
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 7: on Xavier Thomas? And I'm thinking in round five that

514
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 7: must have really stood out as by low Sell High.

515
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Xavier is a guy that was a

516
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 6: really big recruit. Tore it up his freshman year, hit

517
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 6: some adversity, some injuries, things like that, ended up kind

518
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 6: of coming full circle. Had an excellent year this past year.

519
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 6: And the guy can really rush the passer. And that's

520
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 6: the main thing that stands out. The motor, the twitch

521
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 6: off the ball. He can do it from a two

522
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 6: point stance, the three point stance, had some good matchups

523
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 6: on film this year games he played really well. And

524
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 6: he's another guy that went to the East West Game

525
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 6: and really showed up. So it was kind of you're

526
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 6: sitting there one of those situations I spoke about where

527
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Speaker 6: you weren't expecting Xavier Thomas to be there in the

528
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 6: fifth round because of his pass rush traits, and it

529
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: was just too good to pass up.

530
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Speaker 4: At that point.

531
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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you have coaches like at the Shrine Bowl

532
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 7: and Senior Bowl and Cardinals had both, and it seemed

533
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 7: like a lot of these players really shined in those

534
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 7: All Star games, but then you also had coaches there

535
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 7: the whole week on and off the field. How valuable

536
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 7: is that in the personnel evaluation process? Have that intel?

537
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, any time you have one of your coaches working

538
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 6: with a guy for five or six days, that's invaluable

539
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 6: because you get a feel for his true personality. You

540
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 6: get to see him in the cafteria, hanging out with

541
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 6: his friends, in the meeting room, how he behaves, how

542
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 6: does he learn all these kinds of things. You get

543
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 6: to build a personal relationship with a guy, so you

544
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 6: trust that insight, probably more than anything else about the

545
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 6: person you're going to be getting and then also you

546
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 6: get to watch him up close, practicing and competing every day.

547
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 6: So that kind of stuff's great. You know, sometimes you

548
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 6: can fall in love with a player, which isn't great,

549
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 6: you know, just because you do have all that insight

550
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 6: into the guy. So you've got to be worried of

551
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 6: not doing that. But our coaches did an excellent job

552
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 6: that was really invaluable this year, and they've changed the

553
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 6: way that they do the Senior Bowl. I've been on

554
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 6: plenty of teams that actually the whole staff would go

555
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 6: down and coach the Seniable. Now it's a sort of

556
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 6: coaches from around the league. They give everybody a shot

557
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 6: at it, which which benefits a lot of people. But

558
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 6: certainly our guys jumped at the chance to do that,

559
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 6: and it was invaluable.

560
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 7: Because in general, I mean, so much of the process

561
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 7: before you actually send in a name on a card.

562
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Speaker 7: There's a lot that's done beyond the game film, right, Yeah.

563
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 7: And when I hear MANI and JG talk, I mean

564
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 7: there's the zoom meetings, there's the combine, there's a thirty visit.

565
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 7: Potentially they talk about being convicted about a player. How

566
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 7: do you define that. What does that mean exactly?

567
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 6: I think it means that you feel like you've nailed

568
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 6: the value of the player and you believe in it.

569
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 6: So when you take this guy wherever you take him,

570
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 6: everybody is on board with what the role is, what

571
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 6: kind of a kid he is? First of all, what

572
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 6: kind of like you talk about? You know, JG's criteria

573
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 6: for the kind of people we bring in here. He

574
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 6: sets the tone for that. He's the driver of the organization.

575
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 6: So when we're all on board with, yes, this guy

576
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 6: fits what we want in this building, then we're convicted.

577
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 6: And then we just have to get the value right

578
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 6: in terms of the talent.

579
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Speaker 7: Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager. I guess in the

580
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 7: Big Red Rage, all right, Isaiah Adams, we talked about

581
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 7: we talked about this pattern, right, His coach Bert Biolama, right,

582
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 7: he described him as quote a jerk on game days,

583
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 7: and I'm like, okay, displays the force and attitude teams

584
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 7: look for as a block finisher. Is that a parent

585
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 7: on film? Can you see the nasty on film?

586
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: Oh?

587
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, this guy's am all er. I mean he'll get

588
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: after you. And that's you know, we just talked about

589
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 6: those traits you're looking for, and we're looking for grimy

590
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 6: offensive linemen and who are going to put your face

591
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: in the dirt, you know, And this guy is that

592
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 6: kind of a guy.

593
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: He loves ball.

594
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: He's a finisher, very unselfish player who had to play

595
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 6: both right tackle and left tackle. We see him as

596
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: more of a guard in the NFL, but he has

597
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 6: that flex if necessary. But yeah, he has the makeup

598
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 6: the guys. Canadian kid obviously played some ball there, played

599
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: at junior college. But you can see the adversity and

600
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 6: the love of the game in the path this guy's taken.

601
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 7: Him and Trey Benson, this is a guy who will

602
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 7: run it between the tackles and a home run hitter.

603
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 6: He's got that speed, yeah you're talking about. He had

604
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 6: three touchdowns of over eighty yards in his two years

605
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 6: of Florida State, one rush, one receiving, one kick return.

606
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 6: So the guy is an explosive playmaker.

607
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 7: That's fairly obvious. See this helps us get through the

608
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 7: preseason dape. That's why we appreciate that, all right, not

609
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 7: only twelve picks, but there's all this intrigue, right, there's

610
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 7: all these guys. You're like, Wow, I mean, okay, look

611
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 7: at the potential up side, and then there's just the

612
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 7: competition that you guys have created with two draft classes

613
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 7: and everything else you've done, I mean the defensive line room.

614
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 7: You hit the big red Resa button on that between

615
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 7: free agency and the draft, so a lot to look

616
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 7: forward to. We appreciate the insight and uh, you know,

617
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 7: all all the best as you guys continue with the offseason.

618
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 7: We enjoyed it.

619
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Speaker 6: Thanks Dave, Hey, thanks a lot, Paul, appreciate it.

620
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Speaker 1: Man.

621
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Speaker 7: There you go, Dave Cyrus, Cardinal's assistant general manager. We

622
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 7: continue with a big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

623
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Speaker 7: in gilbert.

624
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Speaker 4: O Marvin Harrison Junior, no chance touchdown Ohio State.

625
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 5: And then under pressure hit as he throws heads in

626
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: touchdown Marvin Harrison Junior.

627
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: Marvelous Marvin Harrison over the middle, Harrison Junior again.

628
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Down the side, touchdown speed agility.

629
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Speaker 7: How Marvin Harrison Junior and Marvin Harrison Senior the first

630
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 7: father son duo to each be drafted in the first

631
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 7: round in the modern draft era going back to nineteen

632
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 7: sixty seven. And when we mentioned that to him on

633
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 7: the draft stage in front of the red scene, Wolf

634
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 7: you're out there as well. You could just see him pause.

635
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 7: That was really meaningful to Marvin Harrison Junior, that connection

636
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 7: with his dad, and it is something that definitely drives him.

637
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 7: In fact, we'll get into that momentarily. It is the

638
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 7: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul

639
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 7: calvic Ron Wolfley in special thanks again to the assistant

640
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 7: GM Dave Sears. And he heard his comments on Tip

641
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 7: Bryman right there and now underutilized. He was in the

642
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 7: Illinois passing offense. We'll get more into the maybe not

643
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 7: so blocking tight end a little bit later, but he

644
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 7: also talked about Marvin Harrison Junior wolf and just what

645
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 7: jumped off the page of the Scotty Report, not just

646
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 7: him making plays, but it's the work ethic, it's the character,

647
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 7: it's the IQ and then of course it is the

648
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 7: lineage of Marvin Harrison Junior.

649
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is, PAULI. There's just so many things

650
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to like about this kid and how he goes about

651
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: his business. But just it's going to open up a world,

652
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Speaker 1: a brand new world for Kyler Murray to have a

653
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Speaker 1: true wide receiver one a guy with that kind of talent.

654
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Speaker 1: What I love about Marvin Harrison Junior is the fact

655
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Speaker 1: that he's built so low to the ground. His hips

656
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: are actually very low to the ground, which allows him

657
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Speaker 1: to run very precise and accurate routes. And yet he's

658
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Speaker 1: got a long torso, Polly, He's got a long torso,

659
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Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why he's over sixty three.

660
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Speaker 1: And when you're over sixty three, man, there's a big canopy.

661
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Speaker 1: You're like a tree running in the secondary. I've talked

662
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Speaker 1: about this, use this analogy before. It's the truth, and

663
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to help Kyler Murray as well

664
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Speaker 1: in regard to making his reads. A guy that is

665
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Speaker 1: a very good route runner with Kyler Murray. Can't wait

666
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Speaker 1: to see the chemistry these guys can actually build together.

667
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Speaker 7: Yeah, how many times did the gim Moniasifort tell the

668
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 7: media that just when you watch Marvin Harrison Junior play,

669
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Speaker 7: he's a big man who runs routes like a small man. Yep,

670
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 7: he has that sort of agility. And then you know,

671
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 7: you talk to Marvin Harrison Junior and to realize just

672
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Speaker 7: how mature he is. And it goes back to the

673
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Speaker 7: Ohio State, the factory of receivers and all those first

674
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Speaker 7: round guys that he was practicing against as a true freshman.

675
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Speaker 7: So if there's anyone poised to make an instant impact

676
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Speaker 7: in the NFL, you got to figure Marvin Harrison Junior

677
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Speaker 7: has as good a shot as anyone. And that's sort

678
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Speaker 7: of where we started some of our conversation with Marvin

679
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Speaker 7: Harrison Junior right here in this studio earlier in the week.

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Speaker 11: Yours truly, and Craig Griolou your game. We know what

681
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Speaker 11: the numbers are, We've seen the highlights. Is there an

682
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Speaker 11: aspect of your game that you want to improve upon

683
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Speaker 11: and get better at?

684
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Speaker 8: I mean everything? Really, I think you can never be

685
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Speaker 8: too good at one thing. I think get different. My

686
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 8: dad just always I'm looking for improvement and whether than

687
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Speaker 8: that is your round running, even though it may be

688
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Speaker 8: my strength or other, it's my catch radius in my hands.

689
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 8: Boss goes done tracking a ball over to show there.

690
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Speaker 7: I'm guessing you've been asked a lot the pressure element

691
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Speaker 7: of being the son of a Hall of famer, But

692
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 7: let me ask you how much that has driven you

693
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Speaker 7: to just try and match your dad's expertise.

694
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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, he's driven me a lot, I guess I've

695
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: always had expectations since I was a little kid. You

696
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 8: see Harrison Junior in the back of your jersey. Now,

697
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 8: everybody's expecting big things. But I think that's definitely have

698
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Speaker 8: left to drive you a little bit. But just try

699
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Speaker 8: to be the best person I can be.

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Speaker 11: I got to tell you the expectations that the Bird

701
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Speaker 11: gang has for you on this team with Kyler Murray

702
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 11: coming in a position of need, and then once upon

703
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 11: a time Larry Fitzgerald that comparison people have brought him

704
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Speaker 11: up alongside you. Now you guys are wearing the same uniform.

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Speaker 1: What is your.

706
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Speaker 11: Knowledge of fits? Have you met or spoken with Larry Fitzgerald.

707
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Speaker 8: I've not met her spoken with fitz I just remember

708
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 8: him catching a lot of passes and not dropping many,

709
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Speaker 8: So hopefully I can do the same.

710
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Speaker 7: So for everything that they test for at the combine, right,

711
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 7: what don't they test for that is so critical to

712
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Speaker 7: being a good receiver?

713
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Speaker 8: Just who you are as a person, Like what's your

714
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 8: worth ethic? Like what are your how you determined your motivation?

715
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Speaker 8: What's your daily routine and your schedule? How do you

716
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Speaker 8: prepare for the game? I mean, I think that's something

717
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 8: that you can't really test about doing the forty or

718
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Speaker 8: vertical jump bench press, whatever that may be. So, and

719
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Speaker 8: that's a very intricate part that is very important.

720
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Speaker 11: Away from the game.

721
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Speaker 7: What do you like to do for fun?

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Speaker 11: What occupies your time that release if you will, because

723
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Speaker 11: it can't be football twenty four So yeah.

724
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Speaker 8: I just like to be in the house, watch some movies.

725
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Speaker 8: If I do go out, I'll probably at a restaurant.

726
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Speaker 8: So very game, you guys see me out, feel free

727
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 8: to say hi. I've probably add some restaurant ordering a

728
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Speaker 8: stake or something. But other than that, that's probably it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 7: My last question has to do with Kyler murray Man.

731
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Speaker 7: He was fired up in the video but on social

732
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Speaker 7: media that must have made you feel good.

733
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Speaker 8: And it makes me feel great to have the support

734
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Speaker 8: and love your quarterback already obviously have to go out

735
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Speaker 8: there and earn his trust now, so now I have

736
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Speaker 8: to go to earn his trust, and.

737
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Speaker 7: Here he is speaking of the devil. That's good, Kyler't

738
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Speaker 7: you sit in, I grab a seat.

739
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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, alright, that's good.

741
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Speaker 7: Well, the timing, I'm no doubt that's what's knowing around

742
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 7: here now is a studio bomb, there's Kyler Murray just

743
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 7: bum rushing in at the precise correct moment. Apparently he

744
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 7: was work wandering around the facility looking for his brand

745
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 7: new receiver, and oh, there he is doing a radio interview.

746
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Speaker 7: No whatever, I'll just go in and say hey, and

747
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 7: that was good stuff. So wow, yeah, Ko Pauli, Kyler's

748
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Speaker 7: in a really upbeat mood. I'll just tell you that

749
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Speaker 7: much right now. In fact, you see where he saw.

750
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Speaker 7: He told Fox Digital last week he said, there is

751
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Speaker 7: no quarterback more locked in than.

752
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Speaker 1: Me right now. So that's awesome.

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Speaker 7: You talk about winning the off season. From all indications,

754
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Speaker 7: that's exactly what Kyler has been doing. And by the way,

755
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Speaker 7: up on the stage of the draft party, you might

756
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Speaker 7: have you are on the air, but Paris Johnson Junior

757
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Speaker 7: told the crowd after we were done interviewing Marvin Harrison

758
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Speaker 7: Junior via the jumbo tron in the uplink, he said, quote,

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Speaker 7: I think that's the most explosive combination in the country.

760
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 7: You have a quarterback in Kyler that nobody can touch,

761
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Speaker 7: and now you have a receiver that can't be guarded

762
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Speaker 7: as a tackle. How can you not want to block

763
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Speaker 7: for that end? Quote Paris Johnson Junior, who saw it

764
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 7: and lived it when he was blocking for Marvin Harrison

765
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Speaker 7: junior back at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Paully, and there's no doubt about it.

767
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: That's a very cool comment right there. And Kyler Murray

768
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Speaker 1: and the talent is fantastic. But Paully, can I tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, this could be the most physical offense

770
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League? I kid you not right now.

771
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Speaker 1: If my suspicions are correct and some key players make

772
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: the adjustment to the NFL they need to make, right,

773
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Speaker 1: just prove it, rook. They're going to be able to

774
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Speaker 1: go twelve personnel and run down situation first and ten

775
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: second and one to six, and they're going to line

776
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Speaker 1: up in twelve personnel. I think we might lead the

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Speaker 1: league in twelve personnel as a matter of fact, and

778
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Speaker 1: run down situation. We're going to attack line of scrimmage

779
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: with James Connor. We're gonna do it with Trey Benson

780
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: as well. Attack the line of scrimmage and then use

781
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: play action to throw the ball down the field. It's

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Speaker 1: the reason why it was so important for Kyler Murray

783
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Speaker 1: to get under center and to actually learn how to

784
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Speaker 1: play from under center. This could be the most physical

785
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: offense in the National Football League in twelve personnel and

786
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: rundown and I can't wait to see it.

787
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Speaker 7: And then the big play potential Marvin Rrison Junior, Michael

788
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Speaker 7: favorite player in this draft is next on the Big

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Speaker 7: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: Trey Benson until racist one guy to be high stupid.

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Speaker 2: He got smoke from the Hunkies. Touchdown eighty five yards,

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Speaker 2: first towns tell running, Trey Papson Zide pt track touch Shaffer.

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Speaker 4: Bedson empty sent for Bartell on the We're down at

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Speaker 4: ten and he gets Thomas Xavier Thomas, the first tiger

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Speaker 4: in there flows on the crown.

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Speaker 2: And hits, scoop time a twenty five yard line.

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Speaker 7: Xavier Thomas inside the.

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Speaker 2: Ten and Thomas out of bounds inside the five yard line.

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Speaker 11: Think about it.

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Speaker 7: Xavier Thomas, as a freshman, was in the National Championship

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00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 7: game against Alabama when Clemson won it all. He got

810
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 7: twenty snaps in the National title game. He was a

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Speaker 7: freshman All American coming out of high school. Not only

812
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 7: was a five star recruit, but the national recruiting rankings

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Speaker 7: went Trevor Lawrence won justin fields two who Micah Parsons five?

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Speaker 7: Number three was Xavier Thomas, the Cardinals' fifth round pick

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Speaker 7: out of Clemson. It is a big red rage presented

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Speaker 7: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul

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Speaker 7: kelvc Ron Wolfley and that's what I mean. Well, but

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Speaker 7: just by intrigue is oozing from this class a dozen picks.

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Speaker 7: You have three undrafted guys. And by the way, the

820
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Speaker 7: Colorado receiver. I've heard a ton of great feedback about

821
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Speaker 7: Xavier Weaver. Just go ahead and google him up and

822
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 7: watch some of his ridiculous highlights. Tajon Palmer round six.

823
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Speaker 7: Another receiver with size and speed and that dog mentality.

824
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Speaker 7: So once again we didn't you know, in preseason we

825
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: always want those guys to get us through. We have

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Speaker 7: more than enough guys here, Ron Wolfan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now you're right about that, PAULI. Right now,

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Speaker 1: what's cool about this? You know, in regard to who

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Speaker 1: you're gonna follow, paul who you're really going to pay

830
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: an awful lot of attention to. Of these young guys

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Speaker 1: that are joining the team this year. Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 1: is going to stick out like a sore thumb. There's

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Speaker 1: there's my prediction for you, PAULI, right or no. I

834
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: could be wrong on that, but we'll have to wait

835
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Speaker 1: and see. I think he's just gonna he's gonna stick out.

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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, Darius Robinson is the guy that I

837
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: want to follow around. This is a guy that I

838
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: really really like. Where are they gonna line him up?

839
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Speaker 1: Where's he gonna be? Especially when it's third and obvious

840
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: pass situation? Where is Robinson going to be? I don't

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Speaker 1: know where it is, PAULI. Whether it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a three technique lined up over the outside shoulder of

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Speaker 1: the guard, maybe a five technique. Is he gonna Are

844
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Speaker 1: they gonna put him out on the edge. Will they

845
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: ever do that. They're gonna put him over the center.

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Speaker 1: Typically for most teams, the weakest pass blocker a lot

847
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Speaker 1: of times is the opposing team center. I mean, you're

848
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna put him over there. They used to do that

849
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Speaker 1: with Reggie White all the time. Cover up the two

850
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Speaker 1: guards and then cover up that center with Reggie White.

851
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. But we're gonna follow Darius

852
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Robinson very closely. And then Paul number eighty two drafted

853
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Speaker 1: in the third round. Tip Ryman, Tip Brian and Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's the tip of the spear for this offense being

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Speaker 1: the most physical offense in the league coming up in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if six five, two seventy one, did it get

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Speaker 7: it done for you as a blocking tight end. The

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Speaker 7: following answer during his conference call Tip Ryman when he

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Speaker 7: was asked what's the best thing about being a blocking

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Speaker 7: tight end?

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Speaker 1: Malleling somebody.

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Speaker 4: I like putting my hands on somebody and doing.

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Speaker 1: What I want and just move them exactly where I

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Speaker 1: want it and against their will. It's it's fun.

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Speaker 11: I feel like it's a gift the Lord gave me,

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Speaker 11: and I'm honoring him.

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Speaker 1: And doing that, Pauli, That's exactly the way I felt

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Speaker 1: when I would run down the field and bust wedges. Yeah, kid,

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Speaker 1: you nod. It was like, thank you, Lord God for

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Speaker 1: letting me do this. It was the greatest thing in

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Speaker 1: the world. Run down the field full speed and just

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Speaker 1: camer some dude right in the face. It was I

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Speaker 1: mean that, Paulie. You know me, I'm being serious.

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Speaker 7: Here's what's amazing. This is a guy who was a

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Speaker 7: walk on, ended up a team Illinois. Yes, an academic

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Speaker 7: All American, a guy who the next Gen Stats athleticism

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Speaker 7: score ranking had ahead of Brock Bowers, the tight end

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Speaker 7: out of Georgia who went the thirteenth overall. His athleticism

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00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 7: score was higher than Brock Bauers. So when you hear

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Speaker 7: Dave Siris tell us earlier in this show the assistant

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Speaker 7: GM that they just didn't feature him much in the

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Speaker 7: passing game, you wonder, just, Okay, what's under the hood

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Speaker 7: this we're gonna find out about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Pauli, they're gonna take Tip Ryman. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the true stud tight end. They're gonna line him up

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Speaker 1: at the y. They're gonna have Marvin Harrison junior and

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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson. Think how big those receivers are. And then

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have Trey McBride as the move tight end

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00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: with James Connor or maybe Trey Bentzon lined up with

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00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: their toes at seven attacking the line of scrimmage. When

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Speaker 1: you got a stud tight end like Tip Ryman and

893
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Speaker 1: what he can do. And now Trey McBride, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, how well did he block last year?

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Speaker 7: Paul, Yeah, pretty darn good, actually really good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it takes a lot of pride in it. Now

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be your booth tight end. I'm telling you, Paul.

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals my prediction they lead the league in

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel and rundown situation, which is first and ten

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Speaker 1: second and one to six because of that personnel grouping.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's it's out here real quick. When Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 7: said to the media, you notice a pattern in this

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Speaker 7: draft class and the Cardinals draft picks the last two years.

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Speaker 7: Number one is they're all ball. They're deadly serious about football.

905
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Speaker 7: We've come to realize that doing his TV show. I

906
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Speaker 7: mean that matters to the head coach. And then number two,

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Speaker 7: this group of decision makers firmly believe it's a big

908
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 7: man's game. They get big running backs, they get big receivers,

909
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Speaker 7: they get big tight ends like Tip Ryman, offensive lineman,

910
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Speaker 7: defensive lineman like Darius Robinson. They believe it's a big

911
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Speaker 7: man's game. Now there's room for athleticism and skill, which

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Speaker 7: brings me to my second favorite player behind Max Melton.

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Speaker 7: The guy that I want to see goes by the

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Speaker 7: name Rabbit because he was an outstanding running back most

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Speaker 7: of his life, even going into college, he was a

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Speaker 7: standout running back and then they switched him to safety.

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Speaker 7: And he has a lot of similar traits to a

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Speaker 7: Buddha Baker and a Jala Thompson, a very similar style

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Speaker 7: in that he's very versatile, very athletic. You can play

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Speaker 7: him in the box, you can play him center field,

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Speaker 7: and guess what, you can never have too many dbs,

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Speaker 7: especially if this guy can cover Okay Paully.

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Speaker 1: And here's my sleeper right here. Christian Jones taken in

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Speaker 1: the fifth round, one hundred and sixty two. He's an

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle from Texas Polly. He started forty eight of

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Speaker 1: a possible sixty one games he was at Texas.

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Speaker 7: At Texas, yes yes.

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Speaker 1: Would you say, Paully right now that Texas plays a

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Speaker 1: high level of football, Yes, yes, guy to get this kid,

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Speaker 1: I love it because he's he's a guy that is

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Speaker 1: is built from the inside out man and how he

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Speaker 1: approaches the game of football, and the fact that he

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Speaker 1: was not a football player his whole life. Paulie, I

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Speaker 1: know you know the story about him, but Christian Jones

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Speaker 1: is a guy that to me, I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see how he develops. He was so productive, I mean

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Speaker 1: allowing some of the least amount of pressures in all

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Speaker 1: of college football over the course of a two year period.

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Speaker 1: This guy has been so productive at a high level.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see does that translate over to

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 7: And this draft was so loaded in tackles it was

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Speaker 7: another year he might have gone in the third round.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, you know, and you're right. He walked into

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Speaker 7: high school as a freshman. He's one of the biggest

946
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Speaker 7: kids on campus. The Texas football coach at the high

947
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 7: school said, hey, why aren't you playing football? He said,

948
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Speaker 7: I'm a soccer player, and the coach said, yeah, when

949
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Speaker 7: that doesn't work out, come find me. And by a

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Speaker 7: sophomore year he went to go find the football coach.

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Speaker 1: That's right, PAULI oh.

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Speaker 7: Technical director Matt Lazarus to assist in GM Dave Sears

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