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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football. It is Tuesday, July twenty second.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sarah Walls, joined here in Los Angeles by Mantiteo,

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Freeland and tenure NFL veteran safety Jaliel a Die,

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Speaker 2: who's making his GMF debut today.

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 2: You got an hour in the books with us. You're

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Speaker 2: feeling good and you're a veteran now here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel good. Chemistry is good, Greg group. Let's

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Speaker 4: keep it cracking.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's we got another Let's go, we got

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Speaker 2: another hour to go. Let's go here on GMFF this.

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Speaker 5: Morning, Good Morning Football, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday. Training camp is in session.

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Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of teams in action and

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Speaker 2: a lot to get to. Sarah Walsh, Mantiteo, Cynthia Freeland,

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Speaker 2: and Jaliel a Die, who is playing hurt today. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's something you got to do in the NFL times.

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Speaker 2: But he's lost his voice because.

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Speaker 4: Of why my oldest son, Zion on to die.

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Speaker 6: Seven year World Series Pencil Division Southern California finished in.

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Speaker 4: The final four. He loves baseball.

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Speaker 6: I was just talking to Manti Mantize, like, dude, don't

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Speaker 6: even introduce them the football yet, don't don't even major

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Speaker 6: League baseball play Wait a.

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Speaker 2: Minute, are you like one of these crazy that you

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Speaker 2: said you've lost your voice show yelling.

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Speaker 4: And you just yelling.

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Speaker 6: I'm coaching from the sideline because I was technically supposed

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Speaker 6: to coach this year, but my wife had a new baby,

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Speaker 6: so I had to help out with it.

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Speaker 3: You got a lot happening, so I was just.

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Speaker 6: Like being dad, being coached, being supporter, but really really

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Speaker 6: proud of him.

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Speaker 4: He did an awesome job.

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Speaker 7: You have like a go to like what's your just like,

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Speaker 7: go are you pumping up?

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Speaker 3: Guy?

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Speaker 7: Are you like watch this?

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Speaker 4: Watch this?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Like you, I'm telling the infield to move outfield to

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Speaker 6: play back.

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Speaker 4: It's a lefty job. It's a riety. We're shifted like,

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Speaker 4: I'm all over it, like and I don't know you're

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Speaker 6: Professional background or what it is, but I'm all over

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Speaker 4: But they appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Is the coach of his team ever like, hey, you

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Speaker 6: Not at all, because the coach of his team was

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Speaker 6: my rival in spring, and we go back and forth

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Speaker 6: and we got him this year twice.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I like this.

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Speaker 3: I like this the game within a game.

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Speaker 2: We actually will talk some football here after all our

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Speaker 2: little league baseball talk, which is incredibly interesting. But we

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Speaker 2: because you know what's interesting.

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Speaker 3: What's happening for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of really big names on defense

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 2: This thing, this thing could spiral if they don't get

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Speaker 8: Well, Sarah.

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Speaker 9: The Bengals are set to report to training camp today

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Speaker 9: Let's start out with Trey Hendrickson, who posted early this

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Speaker 9: weeks doing community the events and other things. There appeared

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Speaker 9: That has made abundantly clear he is not going to

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Speaker 9: Now they have broken that president with like said, Joe

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Speaker 9: But at this point there is no certainty about when

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Speaker 9: even for practice. The dispute in Shamar Stewart's case it's

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Speaker 9: not on the years, it's not on the money. All

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Speaker 9: that is said under the collective bargaining agreement. This is

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Speaker 9: Shamar Stewart's contract they have not had in their previous

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Speaker 9: From Shamar Stewart's perspective and his agent, Zach Hiller's perspective,

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Speaker 9: they're saying, all we want is the same language you

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Speaker 9: at a time where with the evolving college football landscape,

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Speaker 9: I am told Samar Stewart has multiple seven figure offers

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Speaker 8: He's not there yet. There'd behoops to jump through here.

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Speaker 9: To play football in Cincinnati, but the idea that he

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Speaker 9: this point. So Bengals headed into training camp, but a

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Speaker 9: They need to figure out their defense. Trey Henderson and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it all gets started, and yet here comes the standoff.

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Speaker 2: Tom Pallisero, thank you for the very latest, and that

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Speaker 2: gets us into another round of three and out. Mantaia,

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Speaker 2: we're told that you have inside information on this, on

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Speaker 2: this scenario right on a scale of one to ninety one,

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Speaker 2: how confident are you in the Bengals getting a deal

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Speaker 2: done with Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're the inside. Maybe I'm sorry I should teach

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Speaker 8: I'm not the insider.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a brother of Trey Hendrickson, and I'm very

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Speaker 1: He called me and we had a great conversation. And

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Speaker 1: him and his wife, they've established roots there. Let's get that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get that squared away. But I said, well, so

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Speaker 8: Well, how far are you? How far are you off

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Speaker 1: He's like, bro, they are atrociously, atrociously low. And so

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Speaker 1: it's a zero for me. Okay, based on my conversation

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Speaker 8: You know this.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what they post him. When there is

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Speaker 1: as well just cancel whatever number comes after those words.

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Speaker 8: Up too, because it's never going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Trey even told me that him and his representatives even.

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Speaker 8: Offered to take less years to.

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Speaker 1: Decrease the length of the contract, and the Bengals organization

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Speaker 8: So from somebody who's had fifty seven sacks for you.

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Speaker 1: He'd led the NFL in sacks last year, and he

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Speaker 1: he continues to be that for your defense on a

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Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Cincinnati, like, you have the number one offense,

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Speaker 1: but we learned last year that you could have the

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Speaker 1: no shot, and you're in the AFC North, which has

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Speaker 1: So you better get number ninety one out there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where the confusion is. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Trey said me, So stop being so atrociously low, but Cincinnati,

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Speaker 7: I'll look like a slightly more optimistic than you because

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Speaker 7: you said fifty seven was his total sex well last

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Speaker 7: season it was seventeen and a half. So I'm going

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Speaker 7: seventeen and a half out of ninety one because that

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Speaker 7: is the number of sacks that led the league last year,

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Speaker 7: and that was what he did and he, by the way,

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Speaker 7: did that same number the year prior as well. So

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Speaker 7: consistency something to rely on up front. This is a

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Speaker 7: big deal, especially when you look at since that Super

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Speaker 7: Bowl season, look at the end of the back end.

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Speaker 7: You guys always talk about the front. In the back

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Speaker 7: they have to work together. Let's see who they've had

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Speaker 7: super Bowl season, they had Jesse Bates, Von Bell, Chidobio, Woozya.

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Speaker 7: Now what it's very there are very few holdovers from

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Speaker 7: when they were very successful to what's gone on the

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Speaker 7: past two seasons. Right, So when you're looking at Trey

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Speaker 7: Hendricks said, why are you not you talk about where

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Speaker 7: is the disconnect? I'm unclear as well, because it seems

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Speaker 7: like we talked about this. You knew this was coming,

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Speaker 7: you knew he was unhappy. I think he signed a

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Speaker 7: deal in COVID times when things were a little bit

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Speaker 7: more murky. I believe it was prop with some sort

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Speaker 7: of thoughtfulness towards if you perform well, we will pay

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Speaker 7: you and figure this out.

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Speaker 3: And that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 7: So now, okay, this is where we're at.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it what both of you gus guys said.

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna go three numbers,

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Speaker 6: and you're gonna ask why I'm going.

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Speaker 4: One, five, and nine. Separate, separate, separate, separate.

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Speaker 3: That's why they're so far apart y.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see the space.

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Speaker 6: So one, Jamar Chase, five, T Higgins nine, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 6: And I say this because they just broke the bank

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Speaker 6: on all three of those guys, And at this point

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Speaker 6: in time, it's almost like that that organization needs a

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Speaker 1: Up, big ticket, big payday, big human being. Yeah, I

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Speaker 8: That would have been scary.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Ty, I'm gonna sound like a broken record

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Speaker 6: Somebody has to open up the offense so they can

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Speaker 6: Who's gonna be that guy to step up? Quentin Johnson

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were talking this morning about Julia

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Speaker 2: When we talk about big expectations on offensive guys, Falcons

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Speaker 2: I mean he should be at this time of year, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited and I'm not going to be surprised by

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Speaker 2: I mean there's not somebody out there that should be like,

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Speaker 3: Like, who's going to go? I don't think so. But

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Speaker 8: So I'm just saying, hey, calm down.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking maybe he should have set a more modest goal,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, shoot for them, among the stars, whatever,

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Speaker 7: I want to believe I can win the super Bowl too,

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Speaker 4: It's you.

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Speaker 3: And what happened? The Bucks won again.

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Speaker 7: So when I'm saying, you know, pump the brakes, just say, hey,

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Speaker 3: That sounds great.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, I love raymynd mccloughs. Confidence I do,

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Speaker 6: He brought the Falcons back from games that they were down,

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Speaker 6: and he showed a lot of promising attributes that you

435
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Speaker 6: want as a starting quarterback. But to say you're going

436
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Speaker 6: to the super Bowl with him, like you guys said,

437
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Speaker 6: let's win the division first, Let's get a birth into

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Speaker 6: the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a playoff win, and then we'll talk.

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Speaker 6: I have four kids and I always tell him, you

441
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Speaker 6: got to crawl before you walk.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that does a team that's crawling, and

443
00:18:36,748 --> 00:18:38,588
Speaker 1: they crawled last year and they're walking and I think

444
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Speaker 1: they might start jogging. You better watch out from Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: What Dave Canal it's got going over there, Bryce Young

446
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Speaker 1: and the momentum that they had going into that the

447
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Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty four, guys, watch out now.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's I mean, what's Todd Bowll is

449
00:18:52,788 --> 00:18:53,268
Speaker 7: doing nothing?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not I'm not the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: What I am saying is every single year, the Carolina

452
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Speaker 1: Panthers are a team that nobody talks about. But the

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Speaker 1: momentum that you had, the confidence that Bryce Young played

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Speaker 1: with late into that season, the defense hanging around with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles during that game in Carolina, watch out for

456
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Speaker 1: those Carolina Panthers in the NFC South, And obviously you've

457
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Speaker 1: got to take into consideration in the books and the

458
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Speaker 1: saint thing.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to get butchered by my former team.

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Speaker 3: Minute. You have to take into considerations. Mantai.

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Speaker 2: They win over year. See, this is the thing. The

462
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Speaker 2: Tampa people are offended. And I can speak to this

463
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Speaker 2: living down there. They always feel like just the fact

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Speaker 2: that taking to consideration, they're like, no, we're we've been

465
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Speaker 2: running away with this thing.

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Speaker 3: Now wait a minute, let me back that up. Not

467
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Speaker 3: running away.

468
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Speaker 2: It's not like their their record is like insane running away.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the year, for year after

470
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Speaker 3: year after year, they're winning it.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like every year it's sexier to start

472
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Speaker 2: the year by saying this is it Like the narrative

473
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Speaker 2: has been that every year so far. It happened when

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Speaker 2: Carr went to the Saints, that's their division. Now it's

475
00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:56,828
Speaker 2: the Saint's division. It happened when Kirk Cousins went to Atlanta.

476
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Speaker 2: Now the Falcons are going to Every year they're discounted

477
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Speaker 2: and every year they're baker to. Cynthia was talking about

478
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Speaker 2: Fantasy football quarterbacks and had Acre in the top ten.

479
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Speaker 2: New offensive coordinator this year. You know what he had

480
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Speaker 2: last year? A new offensive coordinator. You know what he

481
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Speaker 2: had the year a new offensive coordinator. It hasn't it

482
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Speaker 2: really hasn't mattered to get a person.

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Speaker 7: Stuck up for the Tampa people like I don't like

484
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Speaker 7: to wear that out.

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Speaker 4: I love Tampa.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is there's nobody in the NFC South

487
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Speaker 1: right now that's riding off into the sunset like Trey

488
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Speaker 1: Hendrickson in Florida right now.

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Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying. I'm about this situation.

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Speaker 3: Fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Florida, the league is of what have you

492
00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:29,948
Speaker 4: done for me lately? Business?

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Speaker 6: And in that division, I feel I understand why the

494
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Speaker 6: Buccaneers feel slighted, yes, out of everybody in that division.

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Speaker 4: What have you done?

496
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Speaker 6: Formulatedly, they are the most recent team who has won

497
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: They can hang their hat on that.

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Speaker 6: Right And each year they go into the division and

500
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Speaker 6: they come out the record's not sexy, right, No, it's

501
00:20:45,748 --> 00:20:47,988
Speaker 6: never sexy. But they win a division, they clinch a

502
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Speaker 6: playoff birth, a home playoff berth and they're the only

503
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Speaker 6: team in the last few several years in that division

504
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Speaker 6: who has hosted the Lombardi Trophy. So they are able

505
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Speaker 6: to talk and walk around with that confidence as they

506
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Speaker 6: rightfully should.

507
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Speaker 2: And don't forget just completely written off when Tom Brady left,

508
00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:05,548
Speaker 2: Like the idea was this team was just going off

509
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Speaker 2: a cliff tom Brady's out, They didn't have a quarterback,

510
00:21:07,948 --> 00:21:09,228
Speaker 2: they didn't know what they were going to do. Kyle

511
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:13,308
Speaker 2: Trash and then Jason Light goes in and resuscitates Baker

512
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Speaker 2: Mayfield's career.

513
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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody knew where he was going.

514
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Speaker 2: And to Baker's credit, he has had career year after

515
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Speaker 2: career year after career year.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to GMFB.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now longtime sports writer and World Series of

518
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Speaker 2: Poker commentator Norman Chad with us.

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Speaker 3: We're told big NFL fan, since I was that big

520
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Speaker 3: who's your team?

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Speaker 10: My team's the Pittsburgh Steelers, even though I literally have never.

522
00:21:45,668 --> 00:21:46,508
Speaker 11: Been to Pittsburgh.

523
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Speaker 3: Well, then my house is your team.

524
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Speaker 10: Just when I was a kid, I liked Franco Harris,

525
00:21:49,988 --> 00:21:53,068
Speaker 10: I like Terry Bradshaw, and I liked me and Joe Green.

526
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Speaker 10: I just started rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers when I

527
00:21:55,268 --> 00:21:56,068
Speaker 10: was about ten years old.

528
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Speaker 3: You like those uniforms, I just show those through about

529
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Speaker 3: John did not.

530
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Speaker 7: I don't either.

531
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Speaker 8: Like jockeys, like the power range on that.

532
00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:07,148
Speaker 3: Guys at throwbacks. Come on, get into get into the spirit.

533
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Speaker 3: All right, here's what we're going to do.

534
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Speaker 2: We're really going to get into the spirit clearly of

535
00:22:09,708 --> 00:22:11,788
Speaker 2: poker here and play a little bit of poker. We're

536
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Speaker 2: going to deal out five cards. These cards are going

537
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Speaker 2: to be the hand that Norman is dealt. Each card

538
00:22:16,428 --> 00:22:17,868
Speaker 2: has a topic on it. We're going to flip them

539
00:22:17,868 --> 00:22:19,508
Speaker 2: over one by one. So are we dealing these out?

540
00:22:19,548 --> 00:22:19,708
Speaker 6: Now?

541
00:22:19,868 --> 00:22:21,028
Speaker 3: We're just grabbing one of these.

542
00:22:21,628 --> 00:22:22,908
Speaker 8: This is the first one. Here you go.

543
00:22:23,028 --> 00:22:25,188
Speaker 2: Okay, so now I have a card. Am I flipping

544
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Speaker 2: this over? Yesing this over to show over? Oh, let

545
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Speaker 2: me do it this way?

546
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Speaker 3: Yes, this is work. Cvuis Okay, we've Abby's blocked this

547
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Speaker 3: out correctly.

548
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Speaker 2: You're a big You're a big big unrehearsal here right, Norman,

549
00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:39,468
Speaker 2: big NFL fan. Tell us how you spend your Sundays

550
00:22:39,628 --> 00:22:40,468
Speaker 2: watching the games.

551
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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, when I moved from Washington, DC

552
00:22:43,108 --> 00:22:45,068
Speaker 10: to Los Angeles, I had to learn to wake up

553
00:22:45,108 --> 00:22:46,988
Speaker 10: to watch games, because it was ridiculous that you had

554
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Speaker 10: to wake up at eight or nine in the morning

555
00:22:48,428 --> 00:22:50,548
Speaker 10: to watch football on the West Coast. But then I

556
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Speaker 10: had two friends and we decided we want to watch

557
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Speaker 10: all the games. And first we went to a sports

558
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Speaker 10: bar right near the airport. It was one of the

559
00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:58,028
Speaker 10: greatest sports bars we've ever seen. You could see four

560
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Speaker 10: or five games not even having to swivel at your head.

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Speaker 11: We love that.

562
00:23:01,348 --> 00:23:03,068
Speaker 10: But two of my friends did not live near the

563
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Speaker 10: sports bar, so one of them decided he was going

564
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Speaker 10: to build his own. So in his office he got

565
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Speaker 10: eight flat screens, he got eight direct TV receivers and bang.

566
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Speaker 11: We'd go there, we'd have our own. It was just

567
00:23:15,748 --> 00:23:16,988
Speaker 11: it was delightful.

568
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Speaker 10: My other friend decided that's not good enough because once

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Speaker 10: in a while on the morning games there's nine or

570
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Speaker 10: ten or eleven games, So we always had to vote

571
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Speaker 10: a game off the island when there was eight, so

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Speaker 10: he built one with ten TV sets.

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Speaker 7: These are good friends to have, they're incredible, So you're

574
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Speaker 7: supposed to build the one with twelve.

575
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Speaker 11: I cannot.

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Speaker 10: But now I have to drive an hour away because

577
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Speaker 10: they live out in the valley. I live near Lax

578
00:23:38,148 --> 00:23:40,188
Speaker 10: and we'd watch the ten games and it's just I

579
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Speaker 10: know everyone loves the NFL red zone, and red zone

580
00:23:42,388 --> 00:23:45,708
Speaker 10: is terrific, but we're NFL all zone. I mean, you

581
00:23:45,828 --> 00:23:49,028
Speaker 10: just watch every game and it was terrific and it

582
00:23:49,068 --> 00:23:51,748
Speaker 10: became a way of life for us. Now, the thing

583
00:23:51,788 --> 00:23:54,468
Speaker 10: about it that got me mad is that my one

584
00:23:54,508 --> 00:23:57,708
Speaker 10: friend was a big gambler and a fantasy guy.

585
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Speaker 11: My other friend was an NFL agent.

586
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Speaker 10: So when they're watching games, my NFL Asian friend didn't

587
00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:04,748
Speaker 10: have a lot of big clients. Sent had a lot

588
00:24:04,748 --> 00:24:08,308
Speaker 10: of second stringers. So my fantasy guy is sitting there

589
00:24:08,308 --> 00:24:11,068
Speaker 10: watching the game, rooting for sacks interceptions because he's got

590
00:24:11,108 --> 00:24:14,628
Speaker 10: the Broncos defour My NFL agent friend is sitting there

591
00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:17,348
Speaker 10: rooting for injuries because every time someone gets injured, he's

592
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Speaker 10: I got the backup O line aligneman for the Raiders.

593
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Speaker 10: So he's looking for injuries. So we're sitting there, this

594
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Speaker 10: is twenty four years ago. We're sitting there twenty four

595
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Speaker 10: years ago, and he's got a lot of backup quarterbacks

596
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Speaker 10: and we're watching a Patriots game. Drew Bledsoe goes down

597
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Speaker 10: in one. He says, I got the backup. He's Tom

598
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Speaker 10: Brady's agent.

599
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Speaker 7: Wow, Wow, Donee.

600
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Speaker 10: Don Ye hasn't worked a day in his life since

601
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Speaker 10: you've got Tom Brady.

602
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Speaker 2: You upset to Tom Brady's put fifty TVs on the

603
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Speaker 2: wall at that point.

604
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Speaker 11: My god, it's incredible.

605
00:24:46,948 --> 00:24:49,948
Speaker 10: We could have had cocktails for bottle service at the stable. So, yeah,

606
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Speaker 10: he's been Tom's agent for twenty four years. And since

607
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Speaker 10: I'm a Steelers fan, I have rooted against the Patriots

608
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Speaker 10: for twenty four years.

609
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Speaker 11: And it's been.

610
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Speaker 10: Tough because we also have two large TVs and only

611
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Speaker 10: one gets sound the Patriots. Always, no matter who the plant,

612
00:25:02,188 --> 00:25:03,828
Speaker 10: we got to have the Patriots on the big TV,

613
00:25:03,908 --> 00:25:06,068
Speaker 10: we gotta have the Patriots on the sound. It's kind

614
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Speaker 10: kind of frustrating watching the Patriots winning for this long.

615
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Speaker 1: Men enormous, So you have two guys, myself and Jelou.

616
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Speaker 1: We've played football, You've obviously been at the poker table.

617
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Speaker 1: I've never been at a poker table before. Are there

618
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Speaker 1: similarities between the NFL and the poker room.

619
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Speaker 10: The only similarities is that it's a tough way to

620
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Speaker 10: make an easy living. As I stand poker either way

621
00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:31,148
Speaker 10: and poker I always talk about, well, you know, the

622
00:25:31,188 --> 00:25:34,388
Speaker 10: thing about poker is that you're on your own. You

623
00:25:34,468 --> 00:25:37,828
Speaker 10: got no teammates, and nobody's trying to hitch it. In football,

624
00:25:37,988 --> 00:25:40,148
Speaker 10: you know, you can blame your teammates, but you got

625
00:25:40,148 --> 00:25:42,468
Speaker 10: to guaranteed income. Poker is a tough way to make

626
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Speaker 10: a living. So in poker, it's you know, you can go,

627
00:25:45,788 --> 00:25:47,788
Speaker 10: you can go year after year after year and lose

628
00:25:48,468 --> 00:25:51,068
Speaker 10: and you can't lose, and you can lose games in

629
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Speaker 10: the NFL, but you're getting paid now. As far as

630
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Speaker 10: watching it, I don't know how people watch poker live.

631
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Speaker 10: Like when you go to watch an NFL game, I

632
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Speaker 10: don't care. If you're in Buffalo and it's twenty five

633
00:26:01,308 --> 00:26:03,428
Speaker 10: degrees and you're freezing, it's a great experience, and you

634
00:26:03,508 --> 00:26:06,188
Speaker 10: got the replays up there and all that. In poker,

635
00:26:06,228 --> 00:26:08,628
Speaker 10: if you're twenty five feet away from a table, you

636
00:26:08,668 --> 00:26:11,228
Speaker 10: can't see anything. You have no idea what's going on

637
00:26:11,548 --> 00:26:14,308
Speaker 10: as a live experience. So when friends and family come

638
00:26:14,348 --> 00:26:16,628
Speaker 10: in to watch poker, if they're watching on the rail

639
00:26:16,748 --> 00:26:19,228
Speaker 10: and there are tables nearby, they can't see anything. And

640
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Speaker 10: even when they make the final table, it's a TV

641
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Speaker 10: table and there's a couple hundred people.

642
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Speaker 11: In the stands.

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Speaker 10: You're sitting there and all you see is a big

644
00:26:25,468 --> 00:26:27,268
Speaker 10: screen up there that puts out the five cards in

645
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Speaker 10: the middle. You can't see the chips, you can't see

646
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,548
Speaker 10: the action. You have no idea how your guy's doing.

647
00:26:31,828 --> 00:26:34,508
Speaker 10: I mean, you're better off going to a hardware store

648
00:26:34,508 --> 00:26:36,828
Speaker 10: and watching the guy make keys because that's more action.

649
00:26:37,228 --> 00:26:40,148
Speaker 10: So to watch live poker is next to impossible, while

650
00:26:40,148 --> 00:26:42,228
Speaker 10: watching live NFL is about as good as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when Booker had that little boogermobile.

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00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:46,588
Speaker 8: It happens in the NFL.

653
00:26:46,588 --> 00:26:48,828
Speaker 1: Booker had a little boogermobile and he was blocking everybody's

654
00:26:48,828 --> 00:26:50,828
Speaker 1: fan those in the front row seat. So it happens.

655
00:26:50,828 --> 00:26:52,028
Speaker 1: It happens in NFL too.

656
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,628
Speaker 7: I mean, that's why we need you, because we need

657
00:26:54,668 --> 00:26:56,308
Speaker 7: you to tell us all the different things going on

658
00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:59,108
Speaker 7: in poker. But you mentioned tom Ra. Thank you for.

659
00:26:59,028 --> 00:27:00,268
Speaker 3: Flipping dealer car.

660
00:27:00,948 --> 00:27:04,228
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you mentioned Tom Brady earlier. He's regarded as

661
00:27:04,548 --> 00:27:07,428
Speaker 7: goat the greatest of all time. Who is the goat

662
00:27:07,468 --> 00:27:09,268
Speaker 7: in the poker world that we should all kind of

663
00:27:09,308 --> 00:27:09,708
Speaker 7: know about.

664
00:27:10,068 --> 00:27:11,908
Speaker 10: Well, if you're in the poker world, you know who

665
00:27:11,908 --> 00:27:14,028
Speaker 10: the goat is because he tells you every ten minutes.

666
00:27:14,388 --> 00:27:17,388
Speaker 10: So poker's a lot about ego and attitude. So Phil

667
00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:20,508
Speaker 10: Hellmuth is the goat. At the World Series of Poker,

668
00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:23,828
Speaker 10: Phil Hellmuth has when you win a title, they give

669
00:27:23,868 --> 00:27:24,508
Speaker 10: you a bracelet.

670
00:27:24,588 --> 00:27:24,828
Speaker 4: Yep.

671
00:27:24,908 --> 00:27:28,148
Speaker 10: So there's like one hundred World Series tournaments every year

672
00:27:28,148 --> 00:27:29,428
Speaker 10: and you get a bracelet for any of all of them.

673
00:27:29,428 --> 00:27:31,988
Speaker 10: They're really hard to win because the fields are so large.

674
00:27:32,308 --> 00:27:35,348
Speaker 10: So Phil Hellmuth has seventeen bracelets. Nobody else has more

675
00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:38,788
Speaker 10: than eleven. So it's probably harder in a lot of

676
00:27:38,828 --> 00:27:41,908
Speaker 10: ways to win seventeen World Series bracelets than it is

677
00:27:41,948 --> 00:27:43,788
Speaker 10: to win seven Super.

678
00:27:43,468 --> 00:27:44,748
Speaker 11: Bowls, as Tom Brady did.

679
00:27:45,268 --> 00:27:48,388
Speaker 10: It's a lot safer for starters, but you're on your own.

680
00:27:48,468 --> 00:27:49,108
Speaker 11: You gotta I don't know.

681
00:27:49,148 --> 00:27:51,268
Speaker 7: He looks like he's doing some death defying stunts in

682
00:27:51,308 --> 00:27:53,748
Speaker 7: these pictures.

683
00:27:54,628 --> 00:27:56,228
Speaker 8: All of us.

684
00:27:56,868 --> 00:27:58,668
Speaker 10: He likes to make a lot of different entrances when

685
00:27:58,668 --> 00:28:01,188
Speaker 10: he comes to the World Series. Sometimes he's been Julius Caesar,

686
00:28:01,308 --> 00:28:04,228
Speaker 10: sometimes he's been a World War two general, and it

687
00:28:04,548 --> 00:28:07,148
Speaker 10: just it just it just makes those entrances. But when

688
00:28:07,148 --> 00:28:10,308
Speaker 10: you're winning those titles, there's a lot of luck involved,

689
00:28:10,748 --> 00:28:12,748
Speaker 10: and because of the flip of the card, you could

690
00:28:12,748 --> 00:28:14,588
Speaker 10: be a four to one favorite and still lose the

691
00:28:14,588 --> 00:28:16,268
Speaker 10: biggest part of your life for the biggest hand of

692
00:28:16,268 --> 00:28:18,708
Speaker 10: your life. So it's really hard to win seventeen plus

693
00:28:18,748 --> 00:28:21,108
Speaker 10: when you're winning the bracelets compared to winning the titles.

694
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:22,548
Speaker 10: You know, you don't you know you can you win

695
00:28:22,588 --> 00:28:24,108
Speaker 10: those bracelets. You don't have you know, you don't have

696
00:28:24,148 --> 00:28:27,268
Speaker 10: the benefit of the flight gate or spygate or tuckgate

697
00:28:27,588 --> 00:28:30,268
Speaker 10: or Walt Holman or anything. You got no officials help

698
00:28:30,268 --> 00:28:33,308
Speaker 10: and you it's just your skill and the luck. Well,

699
00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:35,908
Speaker 10: Tom Brady know you can't deflate a deck of cards.

700
00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:38,148
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, it doesn't make a difference. So I think

701
00:28:38,148 --> 00:28:41,068
Speaker 10: it's actually tougher to win these titles against hundreds, if

702
00:28:41,108 --> 00:28:43,828
Speaker 10: not thousands of players each time than it is to

703
00:28:43,868 --> 00:28:46,668
Speaker 10: win an NFL title. I'm not taking anything away from

704
00:28:46,668 --> 00:28:49,308
Speaker 10: Tom Brady. In seven Super Bowls, but yeah, you're in

705
00:28:49,348 --> 00:28:51,588
Speaker 10: a weak division for a lot of years and you're home.

706
00:28:52,948 --> 00:28:53,468
Speaker 4: Normous.

707
00:28:54,228 --> 00:28:57,788
Speaker 7: He's I's gonna call you.

708
00:28:59,228 --> 00:29:01,068
Speaker 10: Two home games, and you're in the super Bowl, and

709
00:29:01,108 --> 00:29:02,948
Speaker 10: then you got you know, you've got six officials on

710
00:29:02,988 --> 00:29:06,188
Speaker 10: your side. You're gonna win a lot more titles than

711
00:29:06,268 --> 00:29:06,548
Speaker 10: you are.

712
00:29:07,028 --> 00:29:07,948
Speaker 11: World Series brace you.

713
00:29:07,948 --> 00:29:09,828
Speaker 8: Can tell he's a Pittsburgh Steeler. Fen there you go.

714
00:29:09,988 --> 00:29:10,468
Speaker 8: I like it.

715
00:29:10,508 --> 00:29:13,948
Speaker 6: Okay, but's you got, Julia, So you've been around the

716
00:29:14,068 --> 00:29:16,908
Speaker 6: poker table for a while now. Just a couple of

717
00:29:16,948 --> 00:29:19,828
Speaker 6: years ago, Pro Football Hall of Famer Richard Seymour made

718
00:29:19,828 --> 00:29:23,388
Speaker 6: a run at the World Series of Poker. Tell us

719
00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:25,348
Speaker 6: what was that like watching him go on that kind

720
00:29:25,348 --> 00:29:25,708
Speaker 6: of run.

721
00:29:26,188 --> 00:29:28,348
Speaker 10: You know, first of all, to see that large of

722
00:29:28,388 --> 00:29:30,708
Speaker 10: a man at a poker table around people like me,

723
00:29:31,348 --> 00:29:34,588
Speaker 10: it's just it's you know, it's David and deliath So

724
00:29:34,628 --> 00:29:37,188
Speaker 10: it's a delight to see him there. Second of all,

725
00:29:37,228 --> 00:29:39,628
Speaker 10: you know, we love it when celebrities and athletes come

726
00:29:39,668 --> 00:29:41,428
Speaker 10: to play, and a lot of celebrities would come to play,

727
00:29:41,508 --> 00:29:45,708
Speaker 10: Ray Romano, Don Cheatle Ben Affleck who played in the

728
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:48,828
Speaker 10: World Series of Poker, Toby Maguire. It's hard to make

729
00:29:48,868 --> 00:29:52,028
Speaker 10: them get deep into the tournament because they're not that good.

730
00:29:52,788 --> 00:29:55,748
Speaker 10: Richard Seymour was good. So the year that he played

731
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:58,788
Speaker 10: the World Series of Poker main event, it's ten thousand

732
00:29:58,868 --> 00:30:02,228
Speaker 10: dollars to buy your way in Okay. Ten thousand players

733
00:30:02,548 --> 00:30:06,028
Speaker 10: played in this thing two ago. He finished two hundred

734
00:30:06,068 --> 00:30:08,788
Speaker 10: and eighty fourth. So in the tournament you have ten

735
00:30:08,868 --> 00:30:11,428
Speaker 10: thousand players, only fifteen percent of the players make money

736
00:30:11,428 --> 00:30:13,428
Speaker 10: and get their money back, so the top fifteen hundred

737
00:30:13,508 --> 00:30:16,268
Speaker 10: make money. He finished two eighty fourth, and I was

738
00:30:16,468 --> 00:30:19,228
Speaker 10: I was torn watching them because I'm rooting for him

739
00:30:19,268 --> 00:30:20,228
Speaker 10: because it's great for poker.

740
00:30:20,268 --> 00:30:21,188
Speaker 11: A Super Bowl.

741
00:30:21,228 --> 00:30:24,748
Speaker 10: Champion is playing, and it's great for the game. It's

742
00:30:24,748 --> 00:30:27,228
Speaker 10: great with celebrities and athletes go far. And he's also

743
00:30:27,308 --> 00:30:30,628
Speaker 10: the nicest guy in the world, perfect, perfect countenance at

744
00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:31,068
Speaker 10: the table.

745
00:30:31,228 --> 00:30:32,308
Speaker 11: You love playing with them.

746
00:30:32,588 --> 00:30:35,708
Speaker 10: But I'm torn because I hate the Patriots, and I

747
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,988
Speaker 10: just you know, I know he's got nothing, he's.

748
00:30:37,828 --> 00:30:38,668
Speaker 11: Just playing football.

749
00:30:39,028 --> 00:30:40,748
Speaker 10: But I'm sitting that I want him to go far,

750
00:30:40,828 --> 00:30:43,468
Speaker 10: but he's with the Patriots, so I didn't know which

751
00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,668
Speaker 10: way to go. And I met him again, He's so delightful,

752
00:30:46,108 --> 00:30:48,348
Speaker 10: and again it was great for him. He's had other

753
00:30:48,428 --> 00:30:50,588
Speaker 10: success at the World Series, at the World Poker Tour.

754
00:30:50,988 --> 00:30:54,708
Speaker 10: And I'm always surprised that more athletes don't transition into

755
00:30:54,748 --> 00:30:57,588
Speaker 10: poker because you're competitive, so when you retire, we're you

756
00:30:57,588 --> 00:31:00,068
Speaker 10: gonna take out that competition. Golf course, golf.

757
00:31:00,228 --> 00:31:01,628
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the golf course nowadays.

758
00:31:01,628 --> 00:31:03,548
Speaker 11: I can't think break the golf course does poker.

759
00:31:03,548 --> 00:31:06,068
Speaker 10: You can play twenty four seven year round that doesn't

760
00:31:06,068 --> 00:31:09,148
Speaker 10: care about the weather and stuff. And it's a mind game,

761
00:31:09,188 --> 00:31:11,308
Speaker 10: you know, it's not a sport. It's a mind sport. Maybe,

762
00:31:11,388 --> 00:31:13,348
Speaker 10: but I'm always surprised we don't.

763
00:31:13,148 --> 00:31:15,548
Speaker 11: See more former athletes playing poker.

764
00:31:15,828 --> 00:31:17,428
Speaker 6: Well, the way my back's been filled in the last

765
00:31:17,468 --> 00:31:18,788
Speaker 6: couple of days, maybe I need to put down the

766
00:31:18,828 --> 00:31:20,628
Speaker 6: golf clubs and hit the poker table.

767
00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:21,788
Speaker 4: So maybe I'll take you up on that.

768
00:31:21,828 --> 00:31:22,388
Speaker 11: You'd love it.

769
00:31:22,868 --> 00:31:25,548
Speaker 7: I think a lot of like offensive coordinators should talk

770
00:31:25,588 --> 00:31:27,348
Speaker 7: to poker players and learn a little bit more about

771
00:31:27,348 --> 00:31:30,468
Speaker 7: poker because they become very predictable, and you need to

772
00:31:30,468 --> 00:31:32,268
Speaker 7: throw in a little bit of like bluffing and a

773
00:31:32,268 --> 00:31:35,668
Speaker 7: little bit of like that unpredictability. Like maybe maybe you know,

774
00:31:35,748 --> 00:31:36,828
Speaker 7: you can give them some lessons.

775
00:31:36,868 --> 00:31:38,668
Speaker 10: You know, I can't give any lessons because I lose

776
00:31:38,708 --> 00:31:41,028
Speaker 10: the poker table. You bring up, You bring up a

777
00:31:41,028 --> 00:31:44,668
Speaker 10: good point. Since the poker players who who follow the NFL,

778
00:31:45,068 --> 00:31:48,108
Speaker 10: they believe offensive coordinators are like twenty five years behind

779
00:31:48,108 --> 00:31:51,068
Speaker 10: the times. They do all the analytics, and they do

780
00:31:51,188 --> 00:31:53,108
Speaker 10: you know when you should go for it and on this,

781
00:31:53,188 --> 00:31:54,868
Speaker 10: and that they're not gambling, and some of them they

782
00:31:54,908 --> 00:31:56,468
Speaker 10: should always go forward on fourth.

783
00:31:56,228 --> 00:31:57,348
Speaker 11: Down no matter where you are.

784
00:31:57,588 --> 00:32:00,268
Speaker 10: They believe that their analytics are superior to the offensive

785
00:32:00,268 --> 00:32:01,308
Speaker 10: coordinators analytics.

786
00:32:01,348 --> 00:32:03,148
Speaker 11: And they will sit here and talk your ear.

787
00:32:03,028 --> 00:32:06,508
Speaker 10: Off about the mistake that coaches make during NFL games.

788
00:32:06,548 --> 00:32:10,908
Speaker 3: These are synthias. Make that happen for the analytics or Cynthia.

789
00:32:10,988 --> 00:32:12,908
Speaker 2: Maybe you should be in Maybe you should go into

790
00:32:12,908 --> 00:32:16,948
Speaker 2: poker that that actually is what I'm hearing. Okay, this

791
00:32:16,948 --> 00:32:19,908
Speaker 2: brings us to our last topic. It's obviously important you

792
00:32:20,108 --> 00:32:22,188
Speaker 2: need a good poker face to win and to have

793
00:32:22,228 --> 00:32:25,188
Speaker 2: success at the table. Give us the current NFL player

794
00:32:25,668 --> 00:32:27,948
Speaker 2: that you think has the best poker face.

795
00:32:28,148 --> 00:32:30,588
Speaker 11: Nice, Oh, that has the best poker face.

796
00:32:31,148 --> 00:32:33,508
Speaker 10: Well, again, the thing about the NFL is that you

797
00:32:33,548 --> 00:32:36,628
Speaker 10: have the helmets on, so you don't you know in poker,

798
00:32:37,108 --> 00:32:40,228
Speaker 10: except some people now are putting like a scarfon, so

799
00:32:40,308 --> 00:32:42,588
Speaker 10: you can't see the pulse here. They're putting hoodies on,

800
00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:45,388
Speaker 10: they're putting sunglasses on, they're doing everything to kind of

801
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:49,108
Speaker 10: to so you can't see that poker face anymore. So

802
00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:52,988
Speaker 10: in football with the helmets on, it's tougher to see

803
00:32:53,028 --> 00:32:56,708
Speaker 10: a poker face. But for an NFL player with the

804
00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:04,828
Speaker 10: best poker face right now, you know, I think, I

805
00:33:05,388 --> 00:33:08,628
Speaker 10: think I'm going to go with Josh Allen.

806
00:33:10,188 --> 00:33:13,268
Speaker 11: Got the slight mustache. Okay, we has a mustache on it.

807
00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:21,108
Speaker 10: Mustache is key, okay, not a not a Gardner Minshew mustache. Okay,

808
00:33:21,668 --> 00:33:26,828
Speaker 10: that's for nightclubs. But the slight mustache. You know, first

809
00:33:26,868 --> 00:33:30,348
Speaker 10: of all, you can sometimes sweat on your upper lip

810
00:33:30,388 --> 00:33:33,348
Speaker 10: when you're playing poker, and sometimes sweat here, sometimes sweat here.

811
00:33:33,548 --> 00:33:35,828
Speaker 10: So the mustache without you having to put something on

812
00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:38,468
Speaker 10: that protects all that, just like a full beard like

813
00:33:38,588 --> 00:33:44,188
Speaker 10: James Harden has, is awesome for poker. But the mustache

814
00:33:44,228 --> 00:33:47,028
Speaker 10: I think throws people off. I've had a porn stash

815
00:33:47,228 --> 00:33:50,868
Speaker 10: since nineteen eighty five. What can we say that on

816
00:33:51,628 --> 00:33:54,228
Speaker 10: porn stash people wonder how long I was in the industry.

817
00:33:55,068 --> 00:33:57,828
Speaker 10: I was not in the industry that long. So anyway,

818
00:33:58,108 --> 00:34:02,588
Speaker 10: when you have a mustache, when you have facial hair,

819
00:34:02,668 --> 00:34:05,308
Speaker 10: you generally have a better poker face. So that's why

820
00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:09,348
Speaker 10: I like Josh's simple poker face when he's playing a game.

821
00:34:09,388 --> 00:34:11,348
Speaker 10: Plus he doesn't you know, when he's when he's going

822
00:34:11,468 --> 00:34:13,788
Speaker 10: well and he's going bad. The face stays the same

823
00:34:13,828 --> 00:34:15,548
Speaker 10: when he's in the huddle, which is true for a

824
00:34:15,588 --> 00:34:18,588
Speaker 10: lot of guys, but some guys seem to be more emotional.

825
00:34:18,628 --> 00:34:21,308
Speaker 10: Baker Mayfield seems to be more emotional on the field.

826
00:34:21,188 --> 00:34:22,388
Speaker 3: Hard on a sleeve kind of guy.

827
00:34:22,668 --> 00:34:24,908
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think when we were talking about faces,

828
00:34:24,908 --> 00:34:25,748
Speaker 2: what jumped in mind?

829
00:34:25,748 --> 00:34:26,948
Speaker 3: And there's no facial here here.

830
00:34:26,908 --> 00:34:28,588
Speaker 2: But I was thinking Joe Burrow because I think of

831
00:34:28,628 --> 00:34:31,148
Speaker 2: the ice in the vein, like doesn't show anything, like

832
00:34:31,228 --> 00:34:33,228
Speaker 2: I feel like, so I feel like he doesn't sweat,

833
00:34:33,228 --> 00:34:34,228
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I feel like he

834
00:34:34,228 --> 00:34:36,228
Speaker 2: doesn't have those tells because it doesn't affect him at all.

835
00:34:36,268 --> 00:34:36,948
Speaker 11: I would take him.

836
00:34:36,988 --> 00:34:39,868
Speaker 10: Actually, let me stand back and say that even though

837
00:34:39,908 --> 00:34:42,548
Speaker 10: he doesn't have the mustache, I take Joe Burrow over

838
00:34:42,668 --> 00:34:45,468
Speaker 10: Josh Allen. Okay, that's actually very important. I think for

839
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,708
Speaker 10: quarterbacks to have the poker face. Yeah, especially you can

840
00:34:48,748 --> 00:34:51,748
Speaker 10: tell body language, and we'll just talk about poker language.

841
00:34:51,748 --> 00:34:54,148
Speaker 11: Body language, you can you can get down.

842
00:34:54,628 --> 00:34:56,948
Speaker 10: And so when you're in that huddle and and everything's

843
00:34:56,948 --> 00:34:59,228
Speaker 10: got to stay going no matter how bad it's going,

844
00:34:59,428 --> 00:35:01,348
Speaker 10: you got to have a poker face. You gotta be

845
00:35:01,588 --> 00:35:03,628
Speaker 10: you got to be straight on at a poker table.

846
00:35:03,628 --> 00:35:05,948
Speaker 10: You can tell some time when the poker players losing there,

847
00:35:06,348 --> 00:35:08,308
Speaker 10: you know, they go back here there's something on the

848
00:35:08,308 --> 00:35:10,708
Speaker 10: table and showing they're tired. And so that's the guy

849
00:35:10,748 --> 00:35:12,868
Speaker 10: that I was talking about earlier, Phil Helmers. He only

850
00:35:12,908 --> 00:35:15,748
Speaker 10: sits up erects as tall as you get. He's six

851
00:35:15,748 --> 00:35:18,788
Speaker 10: foot six, so he's like he's overwhelming the table and

852
00:35:18,828 --> 00:35:20,668
Speaker 10: he keeps that body language going.

853
00:35:21,228 --> 00:35:22,108
Speaker 11: And I think the.

854
00:35:22,108 --> 00:35:25,508
Speaker 10: Best NFL quarterbacks should do that with their face and

855
00:35:25,548 --> 00:35:28,148
Speaker 10: their language are guys like Joe Burrow and Joshua I

856
00:35:28,228 --> 00:35:28,548
Speaker 10: think a.

857
00:35:28,508 --> 00:35:30,588
Speaker 1: Young guy that's really good has a good poker faces

858
00:35:30,628 --> 00:35:32,788
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, because if you watch Jayden Daniels, I don't

859
00:35:32,788 --> 00:35:34,908
Speaker 1: know if you saw the hell Mary last year, the

860
00:35:34,948 --> 00:35:37,548
Speaker 1: guy didn't celebrate at all, Like you couldn't tell whether

861
00:35:37,588 --> 00:35:38,908
Speaker 1: he won the game or lost the game. And that's

862
00:35:38,908 --> 00:35:40,948
Speaker 1: happened a lot in his young career where he's so

863
00:35:41,148 --> 00:35:44,468
Speaker 1: stoic that he doesn't he doesn't have peaks and valleys.

864
00:35:44,508 --> 00:35:46,148
Speaker 8: He usually just stays even keeling.

865
00:35:46,188 --> 00:35:48,468
Speaker 1: So that's one guy that I was thinking about, alongside

866
00:35:48,548 --> 00:35:49,868
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, as was Jaden Daniels.

867
00:35:49,908 --> 00:35:50,428
Speaker 3: Those are the guys.

868
00:35:50,628 --> 00:35:52,188
Speaker 2: Honestly, the guys that scared me are the guys that

869
00:35:52,228 --> 00:35:54,228
Speaker 2: have no emotion, right the guy, I mean.

870
00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:56,428
Speaker 3: That's the guy. And I think we get fired up by.

871
00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:58,348
Speaker 2: The person that has like their heart on their sleeves,

872
00:35:58,348 --> 00:36:00,348
Speaker 2: and it's the no emotion guys that I'm like, Oh,

873
00:36:00,348 --> 00:36:01,268
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of that.

874
00:36:01,388 --> 00:36:03,428
Speaker 10: Yeah, speaking of that, there's a lot of NFL kickers

875
00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:05,748
Speaker 10: I have no common fence in because when they come

876
00:36:05,788 --> 00:36:08,228
Speaker 10: out there, I mean, they look like they're a dear

877
00:36:08,308 --> 00:36:09,148
Speaker 10: frozen the headlines.

878
00:36:09,228 --> 00:36:10,788
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm sorry to.

879
00:36:10,788 --> 00:36:17,388
Speaker 10: Start to do this. Just kick the darn ball. What

880
00:36:17,468 --> 00:36:20,028
Speaker 10: are you gonna do something? Vision Quest, Just kick the

881
00:36:20,108 --> 00:36:21,748
Speaker 10: darn ball and stop scared.

882
00:36:21,748 --> 00:36:23,948
Speaker 7: The rangefinder it's their personal rangefinder.

883
00:36:23,948 --> 00:36:25,908
Speaker 4: I'm the guy who was just brushing his hair the

884
00:36:25,948 --> 00:36:26,388
Speaker 4: whole time.

885
00:36:26,508 --> 00:36:30,188
Speaker 6: Okay, yep, just a nervous wreck real quick, I will

886
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,788
Speaker 6: say I can't say a specific person or player, but

887
00:36:32,788 --> 00:36:34,988
Speaker 6: I will say a specific position group and you might

888
00:36:35,028 --> 00:36:35,748
Speaker 6: say I'm biased.

889
00:36:35,948 --> 00:36:38,148
Speaker 4: It's the secondary. You have to be even killed.

890
00:36:38,268 --> 00:36:39,668
Speaker 6: He's gonna have your high, you're gonna have your loads,

891
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:41,948
Speaker 6: you're gonna get beat in front of eighty thousands, millions

892
00:36:41,948 --> 00:36:44,148
Speaker 6: of people on national TV. You have to be even

893
00:36:44,228 --> 00:36:47,108
Speaker 6: kill next play mentality. They always teach us that from

894
00:36:47,348 --> 00:36:51,308
Speaker 6: high school, college NFL as a dB even kill poker

895
00:36:51,308 --> 00:36:52,228
Speaker 6: face mentality.

896
00:36:52,268 --> 00:36:54,708
Speaker 10: That's a good lesson in poker because just like the DV,

897
00:36:55,188 --> 00:36:57,588
Speaker 10: you could make a huge mistake and lose half your stack,

898
00:36:57,828 --> 00:36:59,628
Speaker 10: and you got to move on, and you got to

899
00:36:59,668 --> 00:37:01,628
Speaker 10: get to put that out of your heads. Sometimes they

900
00:37:01,628 --> 00:37:03,868
Speaker 10: want to get that that that chips back up the

901
00:37:03,868 --> 00:37:04,668
Speaker 10: next hand with a.

902
00:37:04,668 --> 00:37:06,348
Speaker 11: Hand after that. You can't do that. You have the

903
00:37:06,428 --> 00:37:07,188
Speaker 11: game come to you.

904
00:37:07,428 --> 00:37:08,908
Speaker 10: So, just like a dB, you got to put that

905
00:37:08,988 --> 00:37:10,588
Speaker 10: out of your head and just move on and play

906
00:37:10,628 --> 00:37:12,828
Speaker 10: your best poker on each and every card you Yet

907
00:37:12,988 --> 00:37:14,028
Speaker 10: one play out of time.

908
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:15,308
Speaker 3: I would be thrown out so fast.

909
00:37:15,348 --> 00:37:16,828
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it like I couldn't do I would

910
00:37:16,828 --> 00:37:17,988
Speaker 2: just be this is why wouldn't you get a golf

911
00:37:17,988 --> 00:37:19,428
Speaker 2: I would just throw the cards I'd be like, I quit,

912
00:37:19,468 --> 00:37:21,388
Speaker 2: I got terrible card, Like that's I don't have it

913
00:37:21,428 --> 00:37:21,588
Speaker 2: in me.

914
00:37:21,828 --> 00:37:23,748
Speaker 3: I don't have it in me. Not everybody has it.

915
00:37:23,788 --> 00:37:23,948
Speaker 7: You know.

916
00:37:24,268 --> 00:37:26,868
Speaker 10: We don't like We don't like anybody's throwing cards.

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00:37:26,908 --> 00:37:27,148
Speaker 3: I know.

918
00:37:27,308 --> 00:37:31,588
Speaker 10: Okay, unless you better.

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Speaker 3: We love having you.