1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: So this is rewives. I have never ever had a 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: housewife on rewives. That's not what the show is. Paul 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: initially suggested that I do a rewatch show and that 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: it would be sort of more housewife central, and I 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: decided to invite notable, famous and interesting business people and 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: celebrities to talk to break down housewives episodes and sort 7 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: of attribute it to real life. 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: And it's done really well. 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: But I made an exception today and so it was 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: never about having housewives, So today I made an exception 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to that rule. And my guest today is Jill Zarin. 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: So welcome to rewives. 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: So happy to be here. And I love being the first. 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, the first, possibly the only we shall see, 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: but definitely the first. 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: And I'm really glad it. 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Is you because there have been different things that I've 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: thought about, but it just didn't make sense, and this 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: completely clicked. It was an amazing idea. It was Paul's idea. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: This was really the idea. Just the idea wasn't that 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: we would have a reunion and talk about it everywhere 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: else and make it a shoot. It was just he 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: thought that we should break down the show on this show. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't know all the context about us in details, 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: so he doesn't realize that, like, we couldn't just get 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: in here and start talking about them without talking about us. 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: So on, you know, just be we reunite, and now 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about the new show. So you just told 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: me that it's season fourteen. 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: It's season okay. So I guess everybody who listens to 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: the show knows the show knows what you know knows 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: about real housewives. And it went through kind of a 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: metamorphosis because it had a bad. 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Season and realized a New York season. 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: Instead of which a lot of people that let it breathe, 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: give it a year, give it a year and a half, 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: come back, maybe cast a few new people, they just 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: completely decimated it and decided to break it off into 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: two and that they would completely get rid of everybody 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: on the cast and hire a new cast. What I 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm confused about is if they were going to do that, 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: why not call it season one, fresh and new. 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: You know, Gary was coming up with some names. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: That it could have been, but not real houses in 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: New York City, which everybody knows what it is, who's 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: on it, and without having a transfer of power, you know, 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: at least having them come on a few at a time, 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: and you know, transitioning to just start clean and call 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: it season fourteen, is call. 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: It something else. I'm saying it something else because it's 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: either way. I just don't understand. 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: It's like, you're, well, it's funny because you before we 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: were talking, you'll bring up your whole Rainbow room and 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: the current the Ramona and the original cast not being 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: at the premiere, and we'll get into that. But it's 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: like you're kind of dancing with two different people at 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: the same time, like you either get. 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Out or get in. Like they're sort. 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Of calling it season fourteen, as you pointed out to me, 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: And so they're keeping the franchise name because they want 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: the brand of the name. 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: Was when you sell the show and things like that, 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: you get to carry you get that X. So if 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: you're a fan of the Housewives of New York and 65 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: you're going to start with episode one, two, three, four, 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: you're going to crawl and grab fourteen and grab this 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: new cast so they get that kind of bonus. Otherwise 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: you'd have to go you're talking about Okay, so if 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: it was season one of a new show, then somebody 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: watching television would have to find the show and want 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: to watch it and watch the episode I'm saying, but 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: they were saying they're picking up season fourteen, So anybody 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 3: who's watching ten, eleven, twelve. 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: Third, you're just saying they have a fan base. It's 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: a brand. 76 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: It's bringing a fan base that I feel wasn't appreciated 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: by how it was introduced at the Rainbow Room, which 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: is what you're just meaning. 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Well, you're saying that they're bringing what I'm saying, they're 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: doing two things. They refreshed it completely with a new 81 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: type of cast. They didn't refresh the name. They didn't 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: invite the previous cast to the rain Room. But I 83 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: think it started with the announcement. I was on Andy 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Cohen's show, and he had publicly said he was shocked 85 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: that I was doing Rewives because I had trashed the 86 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: show so much so to be doing a podcast about it. 87 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter if I trashed the show or didn't, 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: which I didn't trash it. I just said I didn't want 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: to be there. 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: I still have a. 91 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Right to talk about something that I was involved in. 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: So I have a show. A monkey could do a 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: show about the housewives. Did they want to talk about it. 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: So certainly Bethany Frankel canna have a show talking about 95 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the housewife. So there was a shade from Andy. And 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: then I was on his show and he was like, well, 97 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: and also, you know, you criticize the announcement. And I 98 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: did criticize the announcement because I thought, from a marketing perspective, 99 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: on one day to say, over here on the left, everybody, 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: look over here, we're gonna do a show with legacy, 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: But we have no fucking idea who's gonna be on it. 102 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: We're not going to tell you that. 103 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Now. We're just telling you we're gonna do a legacy 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: placehold there one day. Okay, we're putting a little thumbtack 105 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: over here with no information because we ourselves don't know 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the information because we haven't cast it. Over here, everybody 107 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: on the right, we're gonna tell you another story. We're 108 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: doing a completely new cast. You didn't know which way 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: to look, You didn't understand what was happening. And I 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: think it was like it just was a box job. 111 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: It was like you didn't understand and there was no 112 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: good meat. It was just so they had to say something. 113 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: Something had to be saying Okay, So that was my 114 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: opinion though I was boring. I don't understand what you 115 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: just said. You said nothing. It's like, no, there's no meat. 116 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Who's the new cast, who's the legacy? 117 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Like it was just like weird. I thought, I'm not 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: going to disagree. Okay, So that was how I was 119 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: coming in. Then we find it that there's a whole 120 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: new cast with a whole new, refreshed show, and I 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: like you think, okay, new Blood in New York has 122 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: a new, good idea. 123 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: By the way, some of the girls were where you 124 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: were when you started, right, not married, starting out like 125 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: you told me. 126 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: See, like you're not in the demo like we're were 127 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: in my fifth I'm in my fifties. 128 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: I was in my thirties. I was one of the 129 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: younger ones. We're not in the demo. I agree with you. Yeah, 130 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: it's okay. I agree. 131 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Go enjoy, have a new show and call it whatever 132 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: you want, call it housewise. So you're saying I did 133 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: not know this that the existing the previous New York 134 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: Housewives were not invited to the premiere party. 135 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: So I read, I mean there was a big premiere party. Listen, 136 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie season one and you know this. Okay, 137 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: of course, there was no much for anything. Okay, I 138 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: paid for I think some of them. Maybe we all 139 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: paid five hundred dollars eas, I don't know, whatever it was. 140 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: I remember hustling to try to get a free club, 141 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: hustling together. 142 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: Remembers hustle, hustle, hustle because. 143 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to pay for it at the net parties, 144 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: and I never wanted any party, I know. 145 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: But I've got some cute pictures of you. 146 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: I can give you those later too, I think, by 147 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: the way, I think I was the documentary and of 148 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: the show. I have all the pictures, I believe, and 149 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: I have not you know, hoard them out. I kept 150 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: it on the first show? 151 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: What did you wear? What did I wear? 152 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: On the first Ali wore a red dress, like a 153 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: little proof dress. 154 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: I wore. I remember, do you know what I was wearing? 155 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Because I had a rainbow dress with that mask. 156 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: You were wearing black with silver at the premier party. Okay, fabulous, Okay, 157 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to send you anyway. So my point is 158 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: I felt a little bit envious because I felt that 159 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: when I was to mind you. 160 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: It was season one, season two, seas before. 161 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: We never really got support from the network with production 162 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: company as far as having a premier party. I think 163 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: one year we had a big one, that's true, at 164 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: the Palace, I remember that. 165 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: But other than that, it was kind of like there 166 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: was a botch job. 167 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: It was, but nobody can'd and it was up to 168 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: the cast to do it or to so shy. Well, 169 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: you were there longer than I was, and so I 170 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: went to very few being a disaster. So so now 171 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: season one of the show, they are getting a huge 172 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 3: paid party at the Rainbow Room, flying in all these stars, 173 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: all these executives, everybody, and listen. 174 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't expect to be invited to anything. I'm not 175 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: on the show. 176 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: I'm not part of the cast, but I'm not gonna 177 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: lie and I'm not best friends with everybody on the 178 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: cast of House Ies of New York. 179 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I felt bad for them. I thought they got dissed. 180 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: I thought that for all the years and and and 181 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: time and energy and money and everything and their heart 182 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: and soul into a show that they were fired from, 183 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: they should I think they should have been invited, you know, 184 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: if they didn't want to go, but I think they 185 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: should have been invited and I just think it makes 186 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: it look. 187 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Bad because you're always coming from like the heart side 188 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: of it, and I'm coming from the business side. 189 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: Of the marketing of a head. 190 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: It's a botch job, Like you're not going to get 191 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: more more juice out of the apple by having the 192 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: previous ones handed over, more pictures, more impressions, more posts, 193 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: more house and. 194 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: They would have gone, even though maybe they shouldn't have gone, 195 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: they probably would have gone. Yeah, and it's supportive. I mean, 196 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: the truth is, like the network watch all. 197 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: There aren't done one hundred, have twenty New York Housewives come. 198 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: They could have had a reunion of all of them 199 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: passing the baton, which, by the way, I was very good. 200 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: I didn't think of it. I didn't care, but I 201 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: like Gary flattered. 202 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: And maybe it wasn't done on purpose, but I'll give 203 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: you know credit that it was done on purpose. That 204 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: Andy invited me to Bravo Khan on stage the night 205 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: that they were introducing Will Housewives the new cast for 206 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: the first time, I felt I was deliberately invited because 207 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: I am the one who's got the heart with the 208 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: big smile, and you know, it's funny. Last night on 209 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: Andy's show, Brynn the young the bethanis right, the young one, 210 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: she said, let's go. 211 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: I hope the one with the tag showing in her 212 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: dress Israeli is the Bethany. 213 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: I just mean, I just mean the young Okay, young hot. 214 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: I think of young and hot. So take it as 215 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: a goment prob. 216 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: She says, epectfully. She's a beautiful girl. I was going 217 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: to get into all you can tell anything. I'm just 218 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: saying I took it. I give her a compliment, to 219 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: give to you a compliment. And she said to Andy 220 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: that the first person that you know who gave her 221 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: any whatever was me and that and I didn't remember this. 222 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: She says that when she was scared going out on 223 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: the stage, she looked to me and I gave her 224 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: a big smile and that and that gave her like 225 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did that because that's what I 226 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: want to do. And and you know, and Andy said, so, 227 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: who have you heard from? Like who was the first 228 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: person you heard from? And you know whatever? 229 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: And they all will like Jill's aron, and you know, 230 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: Andy wanted to say something nasty like Caddie to me, 231 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: like of course it was Jill and I know he 232 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: wanted to. 233 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Say it, but he didn't. 234 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: He yelled his tongue because I don't do it because 235 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: I get anything for it. 236 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I do it because that's really me. Do you not 237 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: know me? 238 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: It's fourteen years and you like a little action. But 239 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: I wasn't doing it to get pressed like I did it. 240 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't think you did it tog five. 241 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Months ago when they first got cast and said, if 242 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: you ever need anything, he has my number. 243 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: If you're scared, you did it to a press. I 244 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: think you like you like being in the mix a little. 245 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: I literally did it because I'm like Mama bear, and 246 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: I feel like they're there. 247 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: I wish somebody helped me. 248 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: I wish when I went on TV the first time, 249 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: somebody said to me, if this happens, don't be frightened. 250 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: It happens to all of us. Like to give me 251 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: some security. 252 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're such a bad And Jenna Lyons asked 253 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: a mutual friend if she could talk to me, and 254 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: so did Kathy Hilton. And I want no part of 255 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: it because it always comes back to bite you in 256 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: the ass. I stay far away at all, play your 257 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: own game, live your own life. Because they they and then, 258 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: of course Kathy later said Bethany. Bethany said, talk to Kyle, 259 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: because I did say talk to it. I don't want 260 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I don't anyway. That's just you're 261 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: a better person than I am, or not different. I 262 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: don't want to live it out. You said it perfectly. 263 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: You said I'm the heart, you're the business. And that 264 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you don't have a heart. But that's like 265 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: the first thing I got in. I just don't want 266 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: to get involved. And then I gave advice, and then 267 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: it's impressed for five months about the advice I gave, 268 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: and it was the right advice. 269 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't I just don't want to be involved. I 270 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: just don't. I just it's just it's just who I am. Sorry. 271 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I just don't want someone to say to me, how 272 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: do I play it? Because I also think it's inauthentic, 273 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: and we can get to that, because what am I 274 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: going to tell them the God Handbook to how to play? 275 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Because they never want me to just say be yourself. 276 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: They want me to say, like, how did you do it? 277 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: As if I have some secret sauce way that I 278 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: like was so successful at it? And that's the problem, 279 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: and we're going to get into that. That's what I 280 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: ultimately mean. The people that are asking me want to 281 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: know how to like win the game, how to play 282 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: make money, how to be the game, make money, how 283 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: to be a how to be a quote unquote good housewise. 284 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means, Bethany. It means like, yeah, 285 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: how to be six, how to do what I did? 286 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: Who do you think the most? 287 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Okay, take you out of it, who's the most Who 288 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 3: won the game? Who's winning the game right now? 289 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: In Housewives? 290 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: I think that Kyle Mauricio are doing well because he 291 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: is a real estate business that has benefited tremendously from 292 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: the money. 293 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: So what are you talking about? I don't know. 294 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: Is there something else winning? No, one's benefited from a spirituality. 295 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: No, That's why I said. So. They all want to 296 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 2: know the secret to making money. 297 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: They just want me to help them navigate it. But ultimately, 298 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: people are doing it because they want to have that 299 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of success. 300 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, That's why I'm breaking it down, like, and 301 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: I don't think they're. 302 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Doing it because I know the Jenna Lines wants to 303 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: be popular. I mean I think she wants to make money, 304 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: makes well, yes, and I actually think she looked a 305 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: little in bearre. We're going to get into it, okay, 306 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: So so. 307 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: So I like you though, and you know I will 308 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: mention it all. I like you. 309 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like happy for the new people, like 310 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: whoever they are. And now I know because I watched 311 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: this episode like you, but like go for yours, go 312 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: get it, yay new for refreshed whatever. So when I 313 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: speak about this today, I want to be respectful because 314 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: they seem like nice girls. One of them did reach 315 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: out and I don't remember what I said to them, 316 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: but I think it was on Instagram, and I said, 317 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: like be yourself or try you know, how can I 318 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: do like a fortune cookie advice to her? But I 319 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: actually am rooting for them, like I'm happy. 320 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm too. And what we're going to say today is 321 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: to me more. 322 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: About the producing and the casting of the show, because 323 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: it's not about the girls individually. They seem nice, they 324 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: seem attractive, they seems so funny. 325 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: I said that because I all my comments I said 326 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: to Gary and to Ali was about production and a 327 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: lot of the other stuff, not about the girls. 328 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not going to say something bad about one girl, 329 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: like they all seemed lovely and they're. 330 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: Going in to get there scared to death. I don't 331 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: want to beat them up. 332 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm not. I have no I literally don't 333 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: want to. I have no interest. 334 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: But I think some of the shows, some of the 335 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: cast members are I think that other people are trying. 336 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So first of all, walk you know, jealous, back 337 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: up and walk into it. So we're walking into a 338 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: new show. And one of the girls did say publicly 339 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: one of the fatal errors that I think housewives make 340 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: when they come in is they immediately want to separate themselves, 341 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Like I saw it happen with Carol, Like she's different 342 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: and she worked for ABC News, and she dated George Clooney, 343 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and like there's an elevation. It's just an energy of 344 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: an elevation, almost like I'm better than you from one 345 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: of those claws and one of those machines at a 346 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: carnival that pulls out the rubber toys and someone threw 347 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: you into the house Like oh yeah, I know. And 348 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm just different these people around here. So everyone wants 349 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: to show how different. So one of the girls said 350 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: something about, like we're not flying around and plavate planes 351 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: and our husbands whatever, and Derinda and then you know, 352 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I know you have a history with her, but take 353 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: the fact Dorinda was like, yeah, none of us serve 354 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: like flying around at our husband's private planes, like you know, 355 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: everybody on the Housewives wasn't that. 356 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: It just it just wasn't an accurate statement. 357 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: The new girls acted like they work for their money 358 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: and like Dorinda was on her back her money, and 359 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: Durnda was married, but like Drinda works now, and Ramona 360 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: made her own money, and I was broke and Husky 361 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: made I made my own money. But I'm just saying 362 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: it's a doesn't seem like we're all just like you know, yes, 363 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: leu Anne was married to someone and he left their 364 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: money and then she made it into something else. It 365 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: just felt like it was positioned as if like we're 366 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: different because we really work and you guys were there 367 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: was that started all saying so that that was one thing, 368 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: okay that happened before, and I read that, I think 369 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: it was the same person. The girl's sigh and I'm 370 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: not sure if that's the one who I reached down 371 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to on Instagram. I'm mixing up to of the women, 372 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: but she's said ahead of time. And I'm not blaming 373 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: the women for this because they've been watching this show 374 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: for years. All the show is studying, which is a 375 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: mistake and it can never be fresh like it was 376 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: with us. But they're walking in and she said, I 377 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: borrowed four hundred thousand dollars with the clothes. I didn't, 378 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, have to pay for one thing to wear. 379 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to put on outfits that the 380 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: audience would like. And it really the end, she said, 381 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: And we'll get to both, and she said, like something. 382 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: We just want to make a good show. 383 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: And there was something about it to me was that 384 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: it was like when I came back by actors Now, 385 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: it was like when I came back and I think 386 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: about what I was wearing in the first season, what 387 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: you and I were wearing. I we just wearing whatever 388 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: we had. We were wearing whatever we had in our closet, 389 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: and we didn't think about it. 390 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: Stress, do you remember that? Because they told us we 391 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: couldn't wear the same outfit. 392 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: Twice and said no, we're black, and no break all 393 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: these rules. 394 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: And they weren't paying for anything, but yet I had 395 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: were making fifty I was lost so much money. 396 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: But the point is we just wore whatever we had 397 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: in our closet and we didn't get hair and makeup. 398 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: I sometimes I went to the Trish McAvoy counter to 399 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: buy a lip class. 400 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: You know what, They wouldn't cast us today? Well that 401 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: I've seven a million times. You don't never cast no. 402 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: But so the girls have had so much time to 403 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: study this medium and come in in a social media world. 404 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: And when I came back to the Housewives and it 405 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: was Heather, Kristen and Carol and also no disrespect to them, 406 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: everybody was in hair and makeup and wardrobe and it 407 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: was so it was the Berkshire's and I was like wow. 408 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: And so that to me was the fatal eraror. I 409 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: used to think Kristen, like, we. 410 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Are a person out. 411 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: I don't care about your skirt, No, but is it 412 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: a fatal And I'll tell you why, Beverly Hills. I 413 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: think the reason why it's the highest rated show or 414 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: one of the highest rated shows, and I love the 415 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: show is because I like to see the aspirational. I 416 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: do like to see the or I like to hate 417 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: on it, like maybe I'll hate the outfit or she's 418 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: too over the top. But I watch it and and 419 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: I do like the houses, and I do like the clothes. 420 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: And I love Erica Jane with the hair and the 421 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: makeup because maybe I can't do that, but I see 422 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: someone else who can do it really well. 423 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: And she started it. But and she started all of 424 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: this that we're talking about. Credit, No, she started. 425 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: But Beverly Hills is like not a real place to 426 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: begin with. 427 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: And I know, but that's for who they are looking at. 428 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: They're not looking at us there. 429 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: But that's what the beauty and the charm of the 430 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: show in New York was. In my opinion, Beverly Hills 431 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: was is big, giant, palatial. You could have a seven 432 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: million dollar house in Beverly Hills and think about what 433 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: that looks like. A seven million doll I had a 434 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: seven million dollar house. I joined back, it's an apartment. 435 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I know, like you can't compare. So they have that. 436 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: We had to kind of you know, it's just you 437 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: have to focus on different things. 438 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: But I'm saying here it felt like. 439 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: We had houses in the Hamptons. I just have to 440 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: defend it. These girls, I don't think too like houses. 441 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I think they all have apartments, right, but they were 442 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: coming in produced. 443 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 2: It felt forced. 444 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: It felt like every it all felt to me like 445 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: it was produced. It felt like every single person had 446 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: gone through like this glossing and this. I think it's 447 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: the casting, like you. 448 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: Said, it's the casting process. What they're looking for now 449 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: is not what they looked for when they hired us. 450 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes, but if you can, if you can listen, Erica 451 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: brings a lot, like it's not just the way she's looking, 452 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: she brings a lot, and so you've got to be 453 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: able to back it up. And she came into an 454 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: already seasoned cast as the one person that was shiny 455 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: like that. Then Door recopied her Lisa ren a copy. 456 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: They all copied it because of Erica. But she walked 457 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: into a seasoned cast. Here's five new shiny hood ornaments. 458 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: We were all train wrecks. I know, we were all. 459 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: I've run with a fabulous circle of people, the New 460 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: York magazine and a real social I thought that were 461 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: like what I was broken a studio park. 462 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: We were all flawed and it's too perfect there, it's forced. 463 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: I just feel like New York Housewives, like you said, 464 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: was a certain kind of cast and that they should 465 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: have kept it going, and I even said, maybe make 466 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: it second generation, if there is a sprinkling new and old, 467 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: or even second generation. The Alley's the averys if that 468 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: generation going to to bring, you know, to start to 469 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: bring them, because they're gonna get married, they're gonna have weddings, 470 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: they gonna have babies, and then then they all the housewives. 471 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: And well she's two point oh no, no, but you 472 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: know what I mean two point oh And that's what 473 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: is This cast is not the same, and with social 474 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: media and everything, it's just a different day. 475 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: And I think it's a different show. 476 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: But I think that I think that they're redundant of 477 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: each other. I think they all seem similar. They're all 478 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: so fashioned, savvy, and they all they all seem very 479 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: similar to me in casting, like they've cast the same 480 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: type of person. 481 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a little hypocritical, But does 482 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: it bother you that when they let go and I'm 483 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: so defensive of New York and I shouldn't be. I 484 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: don't have no reason to be, but I am. When 485 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: they let go of all the girls, they say that 486 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 3: they wanted to cast a diverse cast of friends, real friends, 487 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: real authentic and they made a point to say real, 488 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: authentic friends, and then they pick a cast that they 489 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: don't know each other. 490 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Because you can't cast like that, it's impossible in New York. 491 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: But then don't say you are great, you love a 492 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: little detail, you love that. 493 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: I do. 494 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I know, I do get into the mud. But the 495 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: girl so I said, we represent New York. So let's 496 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: be honest about that. 497 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: I am not. 498 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: This is not shady. I think the girls are beautiful. 499 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: I think they're smart, I think they're entertaining. I think 500 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: they're good. I do not think that they as a 501 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: group represent nobody. Nobody represents new Yorker's New York has 502 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: a million faces. No, but right, but like there's not 503 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: one mom whose hair looks a wreck. That's just that 504 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: has money. You're fine, you want to have aspirational they 505 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: have money. Great, that has money that like my friends 506 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: who make seven figures a year look like train wrecks 507 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: half the time. They're trying to get their food, kids 508 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: to school. Like it just represented a bunch of polished ornaments. 509 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: I just want, I want to make a commentary. And 510 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: this is maybe I shouldn't say, but I'm going to 511 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: say it anyway. 512 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't. But here we go at all. 513 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 3: So the original cast also included a girl named Lizzie 514 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: oh mcgraby, a nice girl, and for whatever reason it 515 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: doesn't matter, it fell apart. But they filmed with her 516 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: in the beginning. I think for a week or two 517 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: they had to cut out all that. They chose to 518 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: cut out the footage they could, Yeah, but it's irrelevant. 519 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Why, Okay, it doesn't matter. Conversation doesn't matter. 520 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: So they could have kept her in and then kind 521 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: of gotten rid of her, but they chose to like 522 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: just edit her out. I think this is production. I 523 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: think they had a problem starting the show from scratch 524 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: the way they wanted to because they had to edit 525 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: out everything they filmed with her, so all that was 526 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: on the garbage. Because I felt last night's episode was 527 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: like episode three. 528 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: I felt like a couple of flashbacks. I get it, 529 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: and I just didn't like I wanted to be introduced 530 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: to them. Maybe it shouldn't taken as long as it did. 531 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: Have a tick on my neck, that's cool? Are you 532 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: kidding me? There's literally a tick on my neck? Take 533 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: a picture. Fucking I'm not a Papa Rozza. I just 534 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: want I just have a tick. I need to because 535 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: you should have a picture. 536 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Kiss. I have a tick on my neck, just wondering 537 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: if anyone cares. I've never had a tick on my 538 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: body in my life. It's a fucking real tick, Jill, 539 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: we don't have a hot needle. 540 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: Gary was shooting rewives. What the are you talking? 541 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Just just get it out, Just get it out. 542 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: Send the picture. What are you gonna do? Make a portrait? 543 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: I have a tick on my piece of papers to find. 544 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: No, it didn't bite me. It was it was just 545 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: crawling on me. It wasn't sucking my blood. Oh great, doctor, 546 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: doctor Garrey. What's Gary's last name? 547 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: Brodie? 548 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: Can I squish it? Why that that's a myth? What's 549 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: gonna happen to it? It's gonna come back like a transformer? Alright, 550 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: it's it's all right. 551 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: Back to the show on you were a table. I 552 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: don't know. 553 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: I reflexed. Okay, how did you feel it? I felt 554 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: a little crawling, and I don't know. 555 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I wasn't even outside. Somebody make 556 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: sure it's and we checked the dogs later. Make sure 557 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: it's not licee. It's right here. No, it's a tick. 558 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: It's a tick, and my friend, I don't even think 559 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: about ticks, like it's not something I think about. Jesus, 560 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: all right, it was so tiny, I don't Okay, let's 561 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: get all right, Jesus Christ. 562 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: There was an you were right. 563 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: There were like some flashbacks and it felt like you 564 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: were picking up or something left off and oh we 565 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: had a party last time. 566 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: You weren't there. We went out that night. You're right. 567 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: There were references to it, and I don't think it's 568 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: their fault. I think that they had to cut out 569 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: all this footage with this I understand things are and 570 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't explained anywhere, which as I don't know how 571 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: they could fix it, Like, I don't think it could 572 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: be fixable. But I'm noticing as somebody who's like in. 573 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: It just freaking out. I don't have anything on it. 574 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: I bugs all over me. Guys. 575 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: It's okay, No, there's not thanks, there's for his is 576 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: not a friends The Real House Ticks, The Real House 577 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Ticks of New York. Okay, So I think there was 578 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: an al Ian Sraeger was on my podcast and he 579 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: said the word about Studio fifty four and the clubs 580 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: he used to create in the Delano and he said, 581 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: there's an alchemy, and I there was an alchemy with 582 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: this group that was missing. There was ant like the 583 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: combination of elements that I just wasn't feeling and I can't. 584 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: It's not describe. 585 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: He saw the show last night. 586 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: No, he's talking about when something hits right with Studio 587 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: fifty four, the way it felt, and he's saying, you 588 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: need the one thing you need in a restaurants club. 589 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: That's heart is an alchemy, it's a combination. Well, that's 590 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: what we had. And it was an accident because I 591 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: was an accident. No, because because Ramona didn't want the 592 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: people from Brooklyn I take them away at once. 593 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: We didn't because she was willing to be the bad guy. 594 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: It just we didn't. 595 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: She still is, she said, they said last night on 596 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: the show that she's rude to everybody. She's still route 597 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: to everybody who was willing to be to everybody willing 598 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: to be And we were everybody's willing to play that 599 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: part except for me. We went no, we weren't playing 600 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: a part. We were just being who we don't know. 601 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, when you put together a thing, 602 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: you have an antagonist. 603 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: You have this when you yeah, well that's not us. 604 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: That was in the casting. It's just differentsting. 605 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: So did they cast this right or did they write 606 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 3: like alchemy. We don't know, it's just this is this. 607 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I do not think I agree with what you're saying. 608 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I pitched a show to Bravo funnily enough, with an 609 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: interesting cast on the day. It was bad timing because 610 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: on the day that I was pitching to Bravo and 611 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: all the other networks, it was the same day that 612 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I was that I announced I was leaving the Housewives. 613 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: But I had already had to pitch in the deck 614 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: and I whatever. And it was a show called Power 615 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: p O w H e R. And it was a 616 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: bunch about a bunch of powerful women in New York 617 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: City that all you know, n H e R got 618 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: it okay, And it looked it looked like it was 619 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: more like this group. 620 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: You can't like make this group. 621 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: My point, so I agree with you that it should 622 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: have been it's a different show, this is power. 623 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: But they did it. They had a problem after problem. 624 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: You wanted a wife, but everybody else was married on 625 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: Housewes in New York when we started. 626 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: Right, And that's gotten. That's not cute anymore. Are they 627 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: all married? No? 628 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: No, No, right that bothers you know, if you're starting over. 629 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I always had a stick up. I feel like, I 630 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: know people got divorced and you don't find them. 631 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: And I know it ended up that nobody was married, 632 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: and maybe that knows something about what the show does 633 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: to marriages. By the way, by the time they had 634 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: done this, nobody married. 635 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: No, but you make a point. 636 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: I was an outlier and they didn't want me or 637 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted Andy Cohen did not want me. 638 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: Frank Well, we had to sell them hard. No. 639 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen said no. Jenn O'Connell told me, he said 640 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: he didn't want me. I had a pre existing life 641 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: and they didn't want someone not married per se. But 642 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: they had had Joe years ago. But anyway, No, they 643 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: didn't want me because of my pre existing life, but 644 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: they wanted a fifth wife. 645 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: They really they realized it was the best thing that 646 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: they ever did. 647 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: But if you're scrapping a show, you go back for housewives, 648 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: it's called I think it bothered me and I also 649 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: bothered me that every time they cast new housewives they 650 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: weren't married. 651 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: And I'm like, why do you keep casting people who 652 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: aren't married? If they get divorced, it's one thing. They 653 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: stay on the show. They get divorced, it's still life. 654 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: But if you're going to bring in new people, bring 655 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: in married people at. 656 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: Least it's also an archaic name. 657 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: The best part of New York with the men, I 658 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: mean really or the men, the relationships, the divorces, Simon, 659 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: the Mario. 660 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: Do you know what. 661 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 3: I think the reason why season four to thirteen failed 662 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: because it was the pandemic there was, so they had 663 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: problems filming with other people and all that stuff. They 664 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: were no men because nobody was married. Nobody had a boyfriend, 665 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 3: or if they did, they wouldn't put them on TV. 666 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: So for whatever reason, nobody would have a man. I 667 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: think the best part was the Mario, the Simon and 668 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: the Bobby and even but everybody in Beverly. 669 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Hill, respectfully, everybody was younger and lighter and Ramon. It 670 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: was like free and flirty. It's you good to see 671 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: everybody shitting their bed and taking with days and it's 672 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: like the gold. 673 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: That's when you get a girl who's married with kids, 674 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: you get the whole thing, Like the Aaron who's on 675 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: the new show. She's got a husband and kids and 676 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: someone I got it. But someone who's single and dating 677 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: is good too, because she brings stuff. 678 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: But okay, but guess what we could talk about the 679 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: bugs crawling on my neck. But also I thought it 680 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: was too much family. 681 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm okay. 682 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was too much. It was a lot 683 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: of family early, Like I didn't need to see the 684 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: whole You have to set the you have to set 685 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: them up a little. But I didn't need all. It 686 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: was a lot of like I didn't this enough. 687 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: Isn't that two opinions? I didn't see enough. 688 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to see more set up and you want 689 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: and you said I had enough in two seconds. 690 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: I just know I could see who the people were 691 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: in a real quick scene. But I didn't need to 692 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: be at a Shabbat dinner. So soon, let's do just 693 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: the tip and later we'll fuck. Like I don't need 694 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: to see the whole family on the first Like, I'm okay, 695 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: I could see who everybody is. Let's let's let's weave 696 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: it in. I just that's not the point. Who cares, 697 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: That's not the most important part to me? I thought 698 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I didn't feel bad for the little boy. 699 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: I mean that, Okay, you're you're really in the weak. 700 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: You care about the little boy who had his hands 701 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: down his fans. 702 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: I did well take that up with human resources, but 703 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. 704 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: You knew what I was talking about. 705 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: It felt yeah, yeah, it felt so. Also there's like, yeah, okay, 706 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: so it felt to me like Jenna Lyons. First of all, 707 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: she's an accomplished woman. I had sort of heard of her. 708 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: I never really I didn't really hear of her until 709 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: the person who I know said to me, do you 710 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: want to talk to her? 711 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: She's gonna be in the show. 712 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: I've heard of j Crewe obviously, and it sounds like 713 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: it was a really big job. 714 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: But the show is setting it up like Lady. 715 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: Gaga has joined the cast of Alex Simon Ramona, and 716 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, okay, so everybody's like she's on 717 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: this like weird different pedestal, and I feel that that's 718 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: interesting not her fault, but okay, I. 719 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: Definitely put her on every single talk show, like she 720 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: was on Today's show alone. 721 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: I think she was on tonight. I mean she was 722 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: on tonight show. 723 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: Alone, like she They really have been using it but 724 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: I have to tell you, I was very impressed with 725 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: her last night. 726 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect. I did know who 727 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: she is. 728 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: She's because I was always in the fashion Oh you 729 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: are right right, and so she was iconic, like she 730 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: turned that company around, was credited with turning Jake Creue 731 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: around to be the coolest, hottest. 732 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: She's amazing business right now. You were a major. 733 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: You were that excited by I'm excited. No, you were 734 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: that excited about us having a countess. 735 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: Real life count You were so excited. I thought a 736 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 2: billionaire was rolling in. 737 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, she reminded you to call missus, 738 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Dilli said, But I didn't even know what countess meant. 739 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: You were so excited. I was like forty years old. 740 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: I knew not no, I know, but I was countess 741 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: adjacent succeed. 742 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 743 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: I really liked Jenna last night, and I like that 744 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: she's the mama bear of the group. She's like sitting back, going, Okay, 745 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to be like the mama bear here. 746 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: I think Carol Radsway would have been good on that 747 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: cast too. She fits in the group. It's very little 748 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: tick I think on that door. No it's not it's 749 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: another type of bug freak. Stop it now we're in 750 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the Hampton's. It's not a tick. 751 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: Okay, TikTok okay. 752 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: I thought that she seemed like she's a little horrified, 753 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: like she's a little embarrassed to be there, and she's 754 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: been there for business. She thinks it's a good idea, 755 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: but she doesn't seem like she hangs with this fabulous 756 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: circle of people. 757 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: That's what I think. 758 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: I agree, But I think that she's happy she did it. 759 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: She's getting so much. We saw her she was doing 760 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: what the oscars. 761 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: She was on e comment. 762 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: So she's capitalizing on it and she will handle herself well. Okay, 763 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I agree, good friend, and I liked the role that 764 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: she's taking on. 765 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: She seemed interesting. 766 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: I think so when we all started, we didn't have 767 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Ramona had a liquidation business and her husband was selling 768 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: process and you Bobby had his Aaron Fabric's business, but 769 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: we all didn't have a business. It felt a little 770 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: like they cast this show based on what in real 771 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: House was in New York. Became like everybody now, like Derinda, 772 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: she has a business because because she'd sells stuff and 773 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: she does that's because of the Housewives a cafre. So 774 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so they cast this group as a 775 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: new extension and a refresh based on what they became. 776 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: We were all nobody and nothing. We just lived in 777 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: New York and so. 778 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: They didn't get real housewives. 779 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: In other words, they didn't get like what you're saying, 780 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: that doesn't exist anymore, Like you know, it's like a 781 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: real housewife like Niki Hilton, not that she would ever 782 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: do in a million years. She would be the one 783 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: to cast. Why because she has brands. That's not true. 784 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: She does have brands, but she lives the life of 785 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: a social life. 786 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: She really does. 787 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: If they were casting a socialite, I think she'd be 788 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: good to cast on this show with these people because 789 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's a little out of touch. 790 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 791 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Alex and Simon was showing their unfinished apartment and raising 792 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: kids and made a couple of dollars. But like and 793 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: you were saying, they would never cast that show today 794 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: because on the housewivesesday, you have to not only you 795 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: don't have to be rich, you just. 796 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: Have to look rich. Well, you borrow four hundred thousand 797 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: dollars with the clothes, right exactly, but that's the problem. 798 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: So I think we're saying I think that's the problem. 799 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: I think it's focusing more on the frosting and not 800 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: on the cake. Well we don't know yet. Well the first. 801 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Episode looks like they're focusing more on the frosting and 802 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: not on the cake. Let's get into the show, Okay, 803 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: So now let's talk about Bryn. Brynn is a brand 804 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: manager living in the West Village. She's the young she's young, 805 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: she's cute, she's peppy. To me, she felt a little 806 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: bit like she wanted to get all the lines in, 807 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: like she had to get the funny line. 808 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 2: I thought she was the instigator. 809 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: They said at the recap on Watch What Happens Live 810 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: that everyone pointed to what's her name, sorry to Erin 811 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: as the troublemak as the as a pot stir. I 812 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: thought from watching it, it's britt interesting. 813 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I just thought she was trying to hit her beats 814 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: of like say a dick joke, say a funny thing, 815 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: say the thing like the butump bump, but land. The 816 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: line I felt a little forced. The force was a 817 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of what I thought. I thought that she was 818 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: like cute and peppy and like I was, I said 819 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: to pro see, Yeah, she was cute and I have 820 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: a brain as a daughter. And I was like, and 821 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: she seemed nice and she seemed thirty. I liked the 822 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: woman who was a real estate Erran Erin so Erin 823 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: is a realtor interior designer living in Tribeca. 824 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: Yep, I don't know. I liked her. 825 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I liked that she had like was into her family. Yeah, 826 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: and she seemed. 827 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Very grounded exactly. I liked. 828 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: I liked business exactly. I liked her hustler. You she 829 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: seems like a hustler. She had her information down about 830 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: Jenna's apartment. And I liked Jenna, but I didn't get 831 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: a lot from. 832 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: You know what. I didn't like. 833 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: And this is something that would never I don't like 834 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: when things would never happen in real life. 835 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: You know what would never happen in real life. 836 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: While sitting around at Jenna's apartment and you and I 837 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: might have had a little thing, and I say, you 838 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: know what, you and I have to get up and 839 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: go in the other room and clear it. I think 840 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: we did that on the show. I never liked that. 841 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: Well, going in the other room. I can't imagine you ever. 842 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: To be at a party and say, you know what, Joe, 843 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: come on over, I gotta go clear this with you. 844 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: Maybe go buy the kitchen. 845 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: I didn't have as much a problem with that as 846 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: I can't imagine someone going at Nannie with the closet 847 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 1: going into her closet. I can't imagine someone going into 848 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: my closet and putting on a piece of clothing. 849 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: I find that to be Jenna was horrified, but she 850 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: did it with a smile. I think so. 851 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: And I find it, first of all, it's so next level. 852 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: It's not only going into a closet, but going into 853 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: a closet of a fashion you're saying icon. 854 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: It's so distressing. I didn't know it was the first 855 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: time in the apartment. They said it was their first time. 856 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: I just think, as they've been close friend, sure I 857 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: would go and I went in your closet tonight, but 858 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: I was with you. 859 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, But where's that interview by of Jenna being like 860 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: what the fuck? 861 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: She was just like medic A great question? Where's that? 862 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: I would have been like, because maybe she was, she's 863 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: not there yet, Like maybe she's not there in the interview, 864 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: where's that producer getting or there that's a really fun 865 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: She definitely wanted to go, what the fuck she wanted 866 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: to say it, that's insane missing, So that was really 867 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: the way. And then Jessel is the fashion published, living 868 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 3: publicist living in Chelsea. 869 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: I didn't get to know her. 870 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: Same same side, the creator, influencer, her marine cut. That's 871 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: like another thing where with you, you're gonna put this 872 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: nice relationship your partners, you're love and you put this 873 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: nice relationship right on the show. 874 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: The Young the God. They be friends in real life, 875 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: like some of them. 876 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: I think that they would be friends organically, like maybe 877 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 3: they hadn't met, but they would be. 878 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: They all seem like the same person. 879 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: They're all like fashionistas in New York, which I don't 880 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: know that many of those people don't know. 881 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how fashionist. She's a real term. UBA's 882 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: a model. Well she's a fish, you know she is, 883 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 3: I guess. So it's very it's a lot of crossover. 884 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 3: Let's get into the restaurant now. I really want to 885 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: talk about. There was a thing about, Oh my God, 886 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: did that bother you? The beeping all night bothered me. 887 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Multiple beliefs is a problem. It's very shoddy. Some he's 888 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: like not, why don't they just say it? 889 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: Because some people defend it and said it's a good restaurant. 890 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: Why are they protecting a restaurant? They don't protect anything. 891 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense that they never protect anybody 892 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: of the restaurant. 893 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I said to me, was catch right? 894 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: I said catch too? Because you still yeah? 895 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was catch And then it tracks because 896 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: it's like disco dining and hip and whatever. 897 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, Ali took me there. 898 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: I went in Aspen to catch a couple in February 899 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: with Brint, so I had their do. Bro, how in 900 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: secure do you have to be by a restaurant. 901 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: If I'm meeting a new cast of a show, which 902 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: is what they were doing. They were trying to get 903 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: together to get to know each other. Why would you 904 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: ever care where you're eating? I think that was for 905 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: the show or do you think that was real? Do 906 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: you think they did it in anticipation? 907 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: First of all, I've historically I brought the show to Catch, 908 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: I think for the first time because I had I 909 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: know the owners, so we shot there once once the 910 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: house was a little shoddiness going at the production because 911 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: once the producers get a restaurant that they can clean. 912 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: That's where they're gonna call. 913 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: They have ten restaurants in their pocket, you know, unless 914 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: you're like me and Derinda giving them seventy five restaurants 915 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: with our friends names and forcing things that don't matter 916 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: go to my friend's restaurants. Stupid things don't matter in 917 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: the first season. Then later you don't care if you 918 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: go to fucking hip Right, So catch was what a 919 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: producer said, just why don't you do it? 920 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: A catch? 921 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 3: And the girl, the realtor, I didn't film there because 922 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: you never saw anything. 923 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: Something happened and then they took it off. 924 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: Maybe catch, she said, no, maybe Lizzie was there and 925 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 3: they had to cut direct, right. 926 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Jillie, I know you want to do all these conspiracy things. 927 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: Not a conspiracy. I'm just saying, that's probably. 928 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: Why this is the show that we have. And on 929 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: the show that we have, we had a bleeped out. 930 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: Catch and a scene that we never saw. 931 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: And a scene that we never saw. And I do 932 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: agree with you, why was it taken out? And I'm 933 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: gonna find but and you're gonna find out, Detective Jill. 934 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: But what I want to know is and I'm saying 935 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: about BTS. Producers were probably like, this is a restaurant. 936 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: We can can clear you know, we can clear it. 937 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: Great. 938 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: There's a reason now that it's been bleeped out because 939 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: there's something that's been said that you can't say something bad. Oh, 940 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: because restaurants that you've signed clearances with, you can never 941 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: say something bad about it. 942 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: So saying I wouldn't be caught dead. 943 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: In a place and that's probably they filmed there, and 944 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: I am totally guessing that. 945 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: And they made a big mistake because now the only 946 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: thing on the Internet that people are talking about is 947 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: what the restaurant is. But it's great for so I'm 948 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: here that Catch restaurant, restaurant, ate sushi, great steak, great dining, 949 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: just go dining. And to say I wouldn't be caught 950 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: that crystallizes the whole episode. To say I wouldn't be 951 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: caught dead at Catch, that's the problem with the cat 952 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: That's what they are. It's glossed over frosting. Who gives 953 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: a fuck, talk about what's going on. Talk about the meat, 954 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: not the not the fucking restaurant. Let's get into the 955 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: meat of the matter. So that's my problem we're all so, 956 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: I'll go to Catch right now. 957 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: But it takes a minute to get into it. You 958 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: can't get into it until you have That's why I said. 959 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: I think it was episode three or four. 960 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: And you know what, semi retraction because she's being honest. 961 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: She really, in her real life wouldn't be caught dead 962 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: at Catch. But my so that's a character. 963 00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: There you go. 964 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: She wouldn't be called debticatch. That's who she is. I don't 965 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: even who said it, so don't be mad at me. 966 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: It could be the girl I supported on Instagram. I 967 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: love you, You're beautiful, don't change. 968 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: Sorry. 969 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: I just was like, right, well, this is what you know. 970 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: Don't hate the play, I hate the game. They all 971 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: signed up for reality show to be talked about, right 972 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: and I and I actually and I've said to them, listen, 973 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: don't take anything personally, and just make sure they spell 974 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: your name right. 975 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 2: That's it, got it. It's a big like but even 976 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: like the. 977 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: Too cool for schools like Brooklyn, like we're so Brooklyn, 978 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: We're so cool with sour hipster. 979 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: Like it's just very cool and very forced cool. 980 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: That's when they said they were going to recast the 981 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: show and bring on new people, new places. 982 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: They went back to Brooklyn and the city. 983 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: Like I thought they were going to pick up someone 984 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: in Staten Island, maybe Queen's, maybe the Bronx. 985 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: I mean I did. I thought that they were really 986 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: going to diversify this thing. 987 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: Instead they went back and that would have been a 988 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: show called the Burrows, which is a great idea, but 989 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: that's too much, too far hour Staten Island be a 990 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: shit show. I hear what you're saying, But I like 991 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: that as an idea. I like that as an idea. 992 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go, you know what I mean. 993 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: We'll see how this does. 994 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 995 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: So, and I got the sense when Jenna came over 996 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: to I think it's I'm getting confused, sorry everybody, because 997 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I just watched for the some Jessel Jenna came to 998 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: Jessel's house. It felt like a housewive seen that is, 999 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: like they don't know each other. And to your point, 1000 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: like I knew you going in. You really knew Ramona you. 1001 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: That's another that's a chemistry. That's the alchemy. That's the alchemy. 1002 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 3: There's a little connection. You always said that I was 1003 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: the connector on New York, right, I knew everyone. There's 1004 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: nobody here on this cast that knows them all, so 1005 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 3: they're all like kind of you know, but they will 1006 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: by the time we get to the middle of the end. 1007 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: No, but you knew everyone and they knew each other. 1008 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: There was a. 1009 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 3: Reputation thing, like I just we watched our first episode. 1010 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to do no, no, But it 1011 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: was real. Ramona did not invite me to this cooking 1012 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: party in the Hamptons even though I had, just because. 1013 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: She thought she ran with a fabulous group of people 1014 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: in the Hampton and I wasn't part of it. And 1015 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: that was so real. 1016 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: And I remember me and Brad being in the house 1017 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: and we ran over to American Hotel to meet Luanne 1018 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: to tell what had happened. And Luayne was like, I 1019 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: went over there and you weren't there, so I left 1020 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: right away. 1021 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: You know. No, that was all real life, and it 1022 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: wasn't for the show. 1023 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: You really wanted to be and you felt left out, Yes, 1024 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: and I would never want to be there. 1025 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: It was all real. Yes, it was totally It was 1026 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: totally real. It was totally real. Going to Alex and 1027 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: Simon's house. 1028 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: If I thought about what people would have thought, would 1029 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: i'd talk about the state of. 1030 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 3: Their So what I don't know is the connections between 1031 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 3: these girls. How long they go? That's what I'm missing. 1032 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: Do they know some of them? I feel like know 1033 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: each other a little bit. 1034 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: Maybe it doesn't like a long time, it doesn't, but 1035 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: who knows who? Like? 1036 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: Where is any history so that we can see the relationships? 1037 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: Right? 1038 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: So there's a photo on Instagram that so two of 1039 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: them peeled off went to Costa Chipriani because that's hip 1040 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: and catches not And then they. 1041 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: Got to side note did you read about in the 1042 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 3: I don't know where that Costa Chipriani has now thrown 1043 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 3: out all the housewives who belonged to Costa Chipriani because 1044 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift stopped her membership because she was there and 1045 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 3: someone not a housewife, but somebody took her photo and 1046 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: she felt violated and she said, it's become like a 1047 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: low class place and there's you know, there's like housewives 1048 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: here is if it's a bad thing, she said housewise, 1049 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: No she didn't, but that was kind of like what 1050 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: they interpreted her leaving, and they said, well, we have 1051 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: to get rid of housewives element so that we can 1052 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: get Taylor Swift and her people back because all the 1053 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: A listers have left so first and they're blaming it 1054 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: on house before this air. First of all, that was 1055 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: before this air when they see this really allow the Housewives. 1056 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: But first of all, they started that except Kyle is 1057 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: now member, and I'm a member of the Houses because 1058 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: I left the show. But I didn't get in until 1059 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: I left the show. But Kasta Chipriani where I've. 1060 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: Never been and I won't have been. 1061 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: And I, like, I don't know what, I'm just saying 1062 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: that sentence alone, like would make me I don't want 1063 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: to be a member of anything. 1064 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: I don't need anything. 1065 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that sentence alone, that they won't let 1066 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: them in. It makes me want to not be ever 1067 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: on the Housewives, Like just that sentence makes well. 1068 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. But this is the funny thing. 1069 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: That story came out before the show aired where they talk. 1070 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: About ka So they fucked him again. They fucked him again. Yeah, 1071 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: that's about I'm saying. Yeah, they didn't fuck them, you 1072 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 1073 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: No, it's like they had and when they filmed this, 1074 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: they had no idea that they were thrown out of 1075 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: the club and By the way, I don't know if 1076 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: they were thrown out of the club. I don't even 1077 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 3: know if they're members of the club. I'm just saying, 1078 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 3: if you look it up Costa Chippriani housewise, you're going 1079 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: to see that. They said they're throwing out all the housewives. 1080 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Right like Costa Chipriani is not interested in being promoted 1081 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: on the Real House. 1082 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 3: They didn't even know about that though. That's the point. 1083 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 3: They think Taylor Swift left because the elements is wrong. 1084 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: It's just funny that they're saying. So they want to 1085 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: be with the whole what's the whole thing? I wouldn't 1086 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 1: want to be an Famber club right that they would 1087 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: take that would have me as a member. Well, that 1088 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: that fits right here, because they don't want to be 1089 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: at the place that would take them. Catch is the 1090 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: place that would take them and is fun and is great. 1091 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: That's right, and they think they're too cool for that. 1092 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: And now they fucked themselves twice because Catch don't want them, 1093 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: and neither is Costa Chipriani. 1094 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't think chiprion I don't think they're going to 1095 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: be there anytime soon. But you never. But I'm saying 1096 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 2: now you alienated your whole base. You got nobody. They 1097 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 2: didn't do it. 1098 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: So, by the way, there's so many other great clubs 1099 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: in New York besides Costa Chipriani that I would think 1100 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 3: is farm. 1101 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 2: I know nothing about it. I'm sure it's lovely. 1102 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: Who and then to oh, by the way, and then 1103 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: also to say to say the olive. 1104 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: Garden and chicer Ooh, that's so funny. 1105 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: By the way, I like the olive Garden. But yeah, 1106 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: that would they brought in the olive garden shots fired. 1107 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: But just spell it right, Go ahead, just spell it right. 1108 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: Okay. So what about the shoe closet, did you care? 1109 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 3: I would like to have seen more of it. I 1110 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: feel like they glossed over the closet too fast. It 1111 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: looked vastive, it looked massive. I mean, especially for New York. 1112 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: It's nice that there's a shoe closet. It's a cool things, 1113 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: it's fantastic. It's just anything that shows money and all 1114 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 3: that stuff. I think, if not just myself, I think 1115 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: fans love to. 1116 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: Be luxury porn. Yes, okay, it's luxury porn. Okay. 1117 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: And then I don't care about any of the game 1118 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: and the sex. I just feel like I don't care 1119 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: about because it's like, let's play game. 1120 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 3: I needed to do something to get to know you 1121 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 3: and each other, right, So that was okay. 1122 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: I know it's fine, it's filler, but I don't. I like, 1123 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: if you care, you can talk about it. 1124 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: How else you get to know them? 1125 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: And that's what I went back to our episode season 1126 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: one to see how did the producers put together our show? 1127 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: And it was kind of slow. Like the first episodes, 1128 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: we each individual from our first show, I want to 1129 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 3: talk about it by ourselves, and then we started to 1130 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: get together, but we really had alone time to get 1131 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 3: to know you a little bit. 1132 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: Because this is the thing. 1133 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: When we went on New York Housewives, Other than you, 1134 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 3: we will nobody, right. People knew you may be a 1135 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: little from being on the press, but nobody. These girls 1136 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 3: have had a year in the press because the show's success. 1137 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 3: They were announced, they were at Bravo Khan, and they've 1138 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 3: been in the press. 1139 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: Gen Alliance. 1140 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: Everyone knows she's been getting gigs all year before the 1141 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 3: show even aired. We didn't have that, so I guess 1142 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 3: they feel like the audience knows them already. 1143 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I don't. It is different. 1144 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: You can't compare then to now, which is you can't 1145 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: compare them to social media. You can't get what the 1146 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: cheesy the cheese, it's not like at the cheese. 1147 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 2: The Mousewives. Gary said they should call it Gary. I'm 1148 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: not here. The Real Mousewives, The Real Mousewives. Paul loves Gary. 1149 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: Look at Paul so happy here the Real mousewive that's good. 1150 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 2: How did someone else to give you a compliments? A 1151 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: big Garrett that the. 1152 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: Comedy compliment, A comedy compliment, tough, that's literally a compliment. 1153 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: The Real Mousewives. That's a good one. Yeah it was cheesy, 1154 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a lot. It's it's a lot, it's 1155 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: a lot. It was just a lot on the cheese 1156 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: like it's not and it looked just. 1157 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 3: Think they didn't have any I don't know. I think 1158 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 3: something I told you. I think I know you say 1159 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: it's a conspiracy. Something was missing. I think they had 1160 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: a problem, but I think it's gonna get fixed because 1161 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: she left after two weeks of filming and then they're 1162 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 3: gonna get all their footage back. I think they had 1163 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 3: to cut around a lot of things because she was there. Okay, 1164 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 3: I just I got and I'm gonna find out and 1165 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: verify it was forty acres of cheese. It was just 1166 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: a lot of cheese on the table. Gave me cheese. Ang, 1167 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: I like cheese too, but that's like hot, like party cheese, 1168 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 3: like you know, it just was like, ou, it's just 1169 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: not a good entertaining thing because it just like gets 1170 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: sweaty and like a little bit of cheese fine, but 1171 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 3: like an acre of coffee table cheese, it's just like 1172 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: starts glistening. And again they talked about it's something that 1173 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: she did that we never saw, and you know, that 1174 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 3: was like to talk about something you didn't see came. 1175 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 3: We didn't see her give the cheese, so we weren't offended. 1176 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 3: Girl was offended. 1177 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: I forgot to see. I don't know what hat. I 1178 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: saw the show and I wrote, what what happened? I'm 1179 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 2: telling you what something happened. We missed it. You know 1180 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: why they edited it out? But what are you? 1181 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: My understanding was someone's mad what someone else said they 1182 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: really ate cheese and didn't it. 1183 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: Sounds like no, somebody bought a cheese platter to someone's 1184 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: house and it wasn't good enough. I thought it was okay, 1185 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: somebody's gonna have. 1186 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 2: To fight it. We need help. 1187 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: It was inferior cheese platter. It was something that someone 1188 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: who said they don't eat cheese. 1189 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Can somebody please straighten this out? Wait? 1190 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: I feel like there's something that happened on the Housewives 1191 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: with a cheese platter with Drindo, with that medium, there 1192 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: was something about bringing over a short couery board and 1193 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough. 1194 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm having like total but it's real. 1195 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: It has something to do with around the time of 1196 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: the medium and Carol's apartment and cheese. I was shoveling 1197 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: the cheese in a turtle nfe. I'm hot thinking about it. 1198 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: I was like main lining keys, but there's something about cheese. 1199 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: But I don't it sounds that's where they get. But 1200 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 2: any idea what the fight was about? I thought it 1201 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 2: was no, not really And do you know it wasn't 1202 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: there a thing with a one girl And that's the thing. 1203 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: It's a force fight. 1204 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: See, that's what you started for last night was a 1205 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: forced show so that it didn't have to be a 1206 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: forced show. The girl Aaron had a tag showing through two. 1207 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: One of someone that works for me told me that 1208 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: you could see the tag that like, so you're borrowing clothes, like, 1209 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: where's the real where are the real people? 1210 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: Let's see the real people here? They'll come. Okay, they're coming, Okay, great, amazing. 1211 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 1212 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I I do I have high? Are you 1213 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: a watcher of Housewives over I'm not. I would never 1214 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: have watched. 1215 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: Some of them, might do. 1216 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: I'd like Beverly Hills, but I haven't watched Atlanta. I 1217 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: don't watch OCI. 1218 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: What would you have definitely watched this because I would 1219 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: not have not in no shade, I just watch other shows. 1220 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't know interesting. I will always say I would 1221 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: have no. 1222 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, go for yours to the girls, congratulations, 1223 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: go with God. We're both generally positive about it. We're 1224 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: at a different age. 1225 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: We're not. I don't watch the. 1226 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 3: House I don't I care felt someone else's scess has 1227 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 3: anything to do with mine. 1228 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: Your success or failure will never be shaken me, right, no, ever, 1229 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 2: and vice versa. 1230 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: So I want them to do well, and also I 1231 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 3: want the franchise to live forever, because then we live forever. Seriously, 1232 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 3: Housewives of New York goes on forever, so do we. 1233 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 3: But you like it or not, it's true. 1234 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that you think about it. I don't 1235 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 2: think I don't. 1236 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 3: I don't think about it every day. I'm just saying, 1237 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 3: but that's the reality. So the better their success is 1238 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 3: my success. Do you care about watching the show? 1239 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 2: Do you care? You invested? Be honest yet, No, watch 1240 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 2: next time if. 1241 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 3: I make I don't know if i'll watch it, like 1242 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: waiting for Sunday night to come. I don't think I'm 1243 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 3: invested yet, but I don't know how you can be 1244 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: invested in anything yet. 1245 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: I think I watched our first episode back. I kind 1246 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: of was interested. They're interested with you, you and I 1247 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: know I felt a fat camp on a private camp. 1248 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: It was a detox center for help, I understand. But 1249 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: that's what everybody thinks. Alie looks beautiful. She's here, she's 1250 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: thirty years old, she's barely survived that, but she's here 1251 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: to talk about it, and you guys are very close. 1252 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just that was a compelling episode. I 1253 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: don't know if I went to Alex's because it. 1254 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 3: Was real, because that was happening in my real life gritty, 1255 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 3: because real life is flawed and great. 1256 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say that real life and real people, 1257 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: no matter how much money they have, is gritty and flawed. 1258 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,439 Speaker 1: I've been into very rich, very successful people's homes, looked 1259 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: in their protoce drawer and it's disgusting. 1260 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't look perfect, and I've had anxiety about it. 1261 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 2: It's okay. 1262 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: So real life is messy and no matter what you make, 1263 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: no matter how much money you make, it's messy. And 1264 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: they have gone through messy. Erica James got messy. It 1265 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: got messy, and it's just different. She came in as 1266 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: like a performer that was doing all these videos to beginnings. 1267 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: So she walked in there like I'm a performer and 1268 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: that's every but there's not six of those. 1269 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 3: But after you watch it long enough, it started to 1270 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: become real. That was That's why if you watch long time, Yeah, 1271 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 3: but that was her, it'll break down. That's what I'm saying. 1272 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 3: We got to give these this whole show a chance, 1273 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 3: because oh, you mean no, we but we got it'll start. 1274 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 2: To coming in. 1275 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: Lisa was flawed like everybody Lisa, Vanda Pump and people, 1276 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: and they were even though they were dressed in crazy outfits. 1277 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. 1278 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: I only have ever seen one episode for the show. 1279 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: They were still a mess in rich labels. It's not 1280 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm not only talking about the label I talked about 1281 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: they was still it was still a mess and the 1282 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: but it was a great to your point, it was 1283 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: a great show. On the first episode ever, I was invested, 1284 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: I was like, who the fuck are these looming? 1285 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 2: I know, I love the woman who's no longer on 1286 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 2: the show, the one who's the priest, the granddaughter. I 1287 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: mean that was the best. 1288 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: What about the one in you right who has no 1289 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 3: sense of I mean no sense of reality. 1290 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: I've seen a reality show of the housewives. First episode. 1291 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 3: Is with these girls? Are they too self aware that 1292 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: they can't get messy? And well, we don't know yet. 1293 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: Everybody gets messy once they're in this. I don't mean, 1294 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: can they get messy? And ripping someone's hair out and 1295 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: fighting is not messy? I mean, who are they? I 1296 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: had an understanding of who you were. The first episode 1297 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: of the house was you had an understanding of who 1298 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: I was? The first episode of the house was Okay, 1299 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: it's an essence and I have no understanding of who 1300 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: they are. And they have been focusing on the trappings 1301 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: and not what really matters. They've been focusing on the 1302 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: social media, the borrowed outfits, the hair, the makeup, the fashion, 1303 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: the restaurants and not. 1304 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: It can't survive. They will has no foundation. Well that's 1305 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: why I say it's episode three or four. 1306 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 3: You said, you said it, You said you didn't want 1307 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 3: to hear all that stuff, and I said, you have 1308 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 3: to have the foundation before you can get to three 1309 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 3: or four. 1310 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: And you said you wanted to only see a little 1311 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,439 Speaker 2: bit of it because of the missing footage. Okay, I'll 1312 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: meet you there. Uber. She's fabulous. Oh she was. She's 1313 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 2: pretty and sweet and maybe and I met her in person. 1314 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: I had lunch with her. I took her and er 1315 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: and out for lunch with Ali obviously, and I did 1316 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: six months ago. Whatever, it doesn't matter, but uba was. 1317 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 3: She seemed so elegant and so beautiful that I almost think, like, 1318 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if she belongs on a show like this. 1319 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 2: She's so sweet. 1320 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: And I felt that way about Kristen. I thought Kristin 1321 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: was a beautiful person. I just didn't think she was 1322 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: a house There. 1323 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: Are people that I like, but they just put her 1324 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: on in St. Barts. See how she did. And I 1325 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 2: heard she did well because you and you have to 1326 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: like rise to that occasion. 1327 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: I just mean, overall, there are people that I have 1328 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: thought are amazing, people that aren't necessarily good housewise, and 1329 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: then you get into an argument because you're like, all right, 1330 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: you look beautiful. I love the stir in, the two 1331 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: mismatch shoes on purpose. Get the fuck out of the way. 1332 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: We gotta get dirty, and the mud hit now. So 1333 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: it's just different.