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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, The return of Top Mom.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a dirt sandwich in my mouth, the

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Speaker 1: return of Top Mom, TikTok, stardom ahead as Casey Anthony

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Speaker 1: Hater's beg please go away.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us today. A three year

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Speaker 3: old game.

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Speaker 2: Caley that brings it back home to the Discovery.

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Speaker 4: And I went and looked at the spot where.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags from Top Mom,

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Speaker 1: Casey Anthony's home and thrown in a swampy area covered

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Speaker 1: in trash and use tires, just out of a swamp.

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Speaker 1: And that is where Kelly decomposed, this beautiful little girl,

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Speaker 1: the shining light of her grandparents' eyes in a swamp, decaying.

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Speaker 4: And now this I.

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Speaker 5: Am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been

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Speaker 5: in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in this capacity,

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Speaker 5: I feel that it's necessary, if I'm going to continue

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Speaker 5: to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that I start

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Speaker 5: to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well I need to see that again.

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Speaker 1: That's from Casey Anthony's official talk account at Casey Anthony

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Speaker 1: Underscore substack ps.

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Speaker 4: If you don't know what a substance.

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Speaker 1: Means, it means money to her in her pocket. I'll

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Speaker 1: explain it.

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Speaker 2: I've I've got to see this again.

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Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've

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Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in

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Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going

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Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that

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Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for

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Speaker 5: my daughter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's some.

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Speaker 1: I'm a top one Ksey Anthony's TikTok account at Casey

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Speaker 1: Anthony underscore substec whoa whoa whoa legal advocate?

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Speaker 4: No, you're not.

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Speaker 1: You were trying for the murder of your little girl

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Speaker 1: legal advocate my rear end and who did I hear

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Speaker 1: her say? She's been involved? Let me look at this

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Speaker 1: in the legal system since two thy eleven. You mean

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Speaker 1: when you were tried for murder? Joining me an all

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Speaker 1: star panel. But I just want to remind everybody what

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Speaker 1: this is really about.

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Speaker 4: No one would even know her name if you.

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Speaker 2: Work for this, there's something wrong.

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Speaker 6: I found my daughter's car today and it's not like

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Speaker 6: percent a red body and the car.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what is the three year old's name?

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Speaker 6: Kaylee c A y l E E Anthony Hailey Anthony, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: she white, black her Hispanics it's white.

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Speaker 7: How long has she been missing for?

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Speaker 6: I have not seen her since the seventh of June?

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Speaker 2: What is her date of verse.

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Speaker 6: Eight nine, two thousand three, two thousand and five. True, listen,

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Speaker 6: But during.

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Speaker 1: That is Cindy Anthony Killy's grandmother calling reporting her missing,

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Speaker 1: not taught.

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Speaker 4: Mom, her own mother. Advocate for my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Advocate for my daughter, who call nine one one, not

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Speaker 1: you listen.

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Speaker 6: A month ago?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I mean I understand. Can you just can you

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Speaker 7: calm down for me? For this submitte and I don't

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Speaker 7: even know what's going on.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna chin.

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Speaker 1: Advocate for my daughter joining me. Joe Scott Morgan or

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Speaker 1: now death investigative professor at Jacksonville State University, author of

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Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of Body

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Speaker 1: Bags with Joe Scott Morgan Reality Check. You know finding

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Speaker 1: out that top Mom is offering a substack.

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Speaker 4: In other words, you go listen to her.

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Speaker 1: And she gets money, By the way, Joe Scott already

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Speaker 1: just her announcement as has racked up over three million views.

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Speaker 2: She gets paid for that.

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Speaker 1: If there are ads in there, all that money is

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Speaker 1: going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would even

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Speaker 1: know her name if she had not been charged with

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Speaker 1: murdering her daughter. Tell me what happened to Kelly.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you what the end result was. All

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Speaker 8: we have left now are skeletal remains period. As a

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Speaker 8: matter of fact, her body, Nancy, was so badly decayed

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Speaker 8: after they recovered it from that brushy area out there

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Speaker 8: come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death.

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Speaker 8: It's non specified homicidal means. And it's as.

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Speaker 1: Scott, excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around.

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Speaker 2: The baby's mouth and nose with.

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Speaker 4: A heartstick or stuck on it? That gives me a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good idea as to how she died.

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Speaker 4: You think you could survive with.

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Speaker 2: Duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth.

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Speaker 8: I'll go one better than that. Nancy, it wasn't around

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Speaker 8: her nose and mouth, it was around her skull. Just

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Speaker 8: let that sink in. Just for a second, that's what

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Speaker 4: To this child.

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Speaker 8: She's cast off like garbage, Nancy, and then you know,

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Speaker 8: insult to injury. Here we're talking a month down range

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Speaker 8: before anyone says peep about her missing, and all the

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Speaker 8: while she's been out there just in a state of decay, Nancy.

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Speaker 8: And as you know, Florida is a very harsh environment,

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Speaker 8: there was hardly anything left that scientifically we could really

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Speaker 1: To her, you know, just saying that, Joe Scott Morgan

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Speaker 1: and think about it every day every day, Tot Mom,

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Speaker 1: Casey Anthony would pass that spot, as I said, it's

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Speaker 1: about ten houses down from the Anthony home and you

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Speaker 1: come out of their cul de sac and if you

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Speaker 1: turn right, well you have to pass it.

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Speaker 4: Do you know, Joecot, I don't think I've ever told

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Speaker 4: you this. I have never been back to where my

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Speaker 4: fiance was murdered. Never.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it.

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Speaker 4: I know that's where he was murdered.

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Speaker 1: But she passed this every day and never said a word.

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Speaker 4: Day by day, think.

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Speaker 1: About it, Joe Scott, As each hour passedes, what happened

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Speaker 2: When did flyes show up and lay eggs?

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Speaker 4: When did he.

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Speaker 1: Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know

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Speaker 1: it's harsh, Joe Scott, but this is the reality.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're you're right, And in that environment, it's so

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Speaker 8: harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person

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Speaker 8: didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give

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Speaker 8: me a break. You know you're driving by this every

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Speaker 8: and it stated, Kay, I can't even begin to plumb

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Speaker 2: When I was first, Joe Scott, what happens first?

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Speaker 4: But her body is in that bag? What happens in.

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Speaker 1: The first five hours of her body being that bag?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida,

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Speaker 8: You know, they know flies always find a way they

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Speaker 8: aid in this process of decomposition and it's sped up

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Speaker 8: very very quickly in that environment, Nancy, and having worked

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Speaker 8: in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen

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Speaker 8: flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the

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Speaker 1: Yet today top mom Casey Anthony returns to tick talk stardom.

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Speaker 5: There are people close to me who have been targeted

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Speaker 5: in attack recently.

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Speaker 4: They are also people close.

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Speaker 5: To me who have had some some recent things occur

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Speaker 5: and when necessary, people needed to step up myself included.

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Speaker 2: That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just heard her say there.

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Speaker 1: Are people close to me that I've been targeted, like Kelly,

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Speaker 1: is your is your daughter there?

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Speaker 7: Wind have song with them?

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Speaker 2: Is your daughter there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Can I stepret her.

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Speaker 4: Be winded by secret hers? Thank you?

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Speaker 6: I call them two hours ago now taught here. Finally,

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Speaker 6: there is a very problem.

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Speaker 7: Ma'am, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk to you. Question.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, yes, hi, Well can you can you come

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Speaker 7: you what's going on a little bit? I'm sorry, can

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Speaker 7: you tell me a little what's going on? And my

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Speaker 7: daughter's been received for the last thirty.

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Speaker 6: One days and you know who has her? I know

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Speaker 6: who the are I tried to contact her. I actually

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Speaker 6: received a phone call today now from a number of

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Speaker 6: this isn't no longer in service. I did get to

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Speaker 6: speak to my daughter for about a moment, about a minute.

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Speaker 7: Okay, did you guys follow me for a vehicle thorn?

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Speaker 6: And yes, my mom did.

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Speaker 4: All of that is a lie.

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Speaker 1: She is describing her daughter being taken by the nanny,

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Speaker 1: and today she's saying.

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Speaker 2: People close to me have been targeted and attacked.

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Speaker 1: Really, what about Zennia Fernanda's glazaals. That's a real person

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Speaker 1: that was attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper.

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Speaker 2: That's a real person.

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Speaker 4: That's a woman wandering around minding her own business.

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Speaker 1: They got dragged into top Mond Casey Anthony's vortex.

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Speaker 2: Listen. She even spells the name for peep's sake.

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Speaker 7: You have her, you a name.

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Speaker 6: Her name is Jay, that's Fernando and Sue Ellis.

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Speaker 6: She has enally nanny for fout a year and almost

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Speaker 6: two years.

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Speaker 4: Why why are you calling now? Why didn't you call

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Speaker 4: it thirty one days ago?

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Speaker 6: I've been looking for her and have gone through other

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Speaker 7: Okay, can you can you give me the name of

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Speaker 7: the then nanny again like sell it out for me.

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Speaker 10: Niva v E n ai ba, last name Rnandez Fernandez

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Speaker 1: Man, what a liar she even knows how to put

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Speaker 1: the hyphen Gonzales. There's actually a real person out there

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Speaker 1: names and Night Fernandez Gonzales.

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Speaker 2: And isn't it true? To Shannah Butler joining me right now?

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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter WFTV Channel nine, Florida.

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Speaker 2: This jurisdiction that when the apartment where tot.

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Speaker 1: Mom says she dropped off baby Kelly was found by police,

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Speaker 1: it had been vacant for one hundred and forty days,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty.

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Speaker 4: Days no one had lived there.

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Speaker 1: Then when she took police to where she worked, to

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Speaker 1: Universal Studios, she got all the way in the car

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Speaker 1: the way through the security gate to the building, out

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Speaker 1: of the car, walking in the building to find her boss,

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Speaker 1: and she says, okay, you got me. I haven't worked

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Speaker 1: here in three years, all the time wearing her Universal

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Speaker 1: she sat on the sofa in eight chips while they

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Speaker 1: paid for Kelly, isn't all of that true?

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Speaker 4: That is all true?

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Speaker 11: I remember back then.

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Speaker 12: I mean I did nothing but this story for three

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Speaker 12: This is what happened, And she stuck to those stories,

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Speaker 12: You wouldn't think that she would be so married to

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Speaker 4: I literally have nothing right now.

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Speaker 7: I am so.

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Speaker 4: Hurt by everything.

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Speaker 13: And I watched that.

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Speaker 14: Episode of Nancy Grace, the stuff that was being said

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Speaker 1: What side is that that you murdered your daughter and

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Speaker 1: That's romantic, and according to him, you never acted like

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's real. Listen for those of.

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Speaker 5: You who don't know, my name is Kasey Anthony, my

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Speaker 5: This is not about them. This is not in response

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Speaker 1: That was from the TikTok account at Casey anthony underscore

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Speaker 2: You dragged through the mud your own father.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend

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Speaker 4: That smelled of human d coop? Whose car was that?

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Speaker 4: Casey Anthony's speaking of George Listen.

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Speaker 16: In Casey Anthony's version of events on Jene six teenth,

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Speaker 13: Casey Anthony claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand this. You're the defense Attorny Troy Slayton.

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Speaker 1: So she says, she laid down for a nap, woke up,

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Speaker 1: Kelly was gone, and her dad said everything will be okay.

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Speaker 4: The boyfriend for the next month. Just yes, Note does

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Speaker 4: that make sense to you? Her grandparent and took care

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Speaker 9: They she was at their house, she was with them,

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Speaker 4: And this is a single mind.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, if he's keeping a straight

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Speaker 4: I believe you do, don't you? I absolutely do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked

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Speaker 4: And what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for

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Speaker 11: You know that?

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Speaker 17: What? What are you?

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Speaker 2: What are you babbling about?

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Speaker 17: What is this?

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Speaker 4: Gibberis sure the jury disagreed with you and agreed rising.

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Speaker 2: You right now? Does it make sense to you?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you would do if you saw your

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Speaker 4: No, I knew that my child was dead.

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Speaker 9: But you know what's really interesting is that thirty one

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Speaker 4: Suddenly, on this thirty first day, they're calling the police.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not what happened, Shannon Butler joining me, let

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Speaker 1: me refresh your recollection, Troy Slayton, Shannon WFTV. Isn't true

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Speaker 1: that during those thirty one days, top mom Casey Anthony

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Speaker 1: We're at the grocery.

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Speaker 2: Store, We're at Target.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the nanny has her at the beach.

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Speaker 1: She lied throughout and would never let Grandma Cindy Anthony

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Speaker 2: Isn't that true?

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Speaker 12: I mean she did give her parents a lot of

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Speaker 1: Of the stories that Casey was telling them, they had

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Speaker 1: owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter of fact, isn't

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Speaker 1: it true that when you dealt with Top Mom Casey Anthony, she.

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Speaker 2: Acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The entire time, that entire thirty one days that she

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Speaker 1: My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when

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Speaker 17: Rob Dick definitely not a person who is quote missing

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Speaker 17: Kaylee's name never came up. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 17: do be asking where are we at? What's going on?

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Speaker 17: Anybody heard anything? Not once is she bringing up Kaye?

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Speaker 1: You mean you had her in the car with you,

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Speaker 4: Rob Dick?

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Speaker 17: Not once, not once did she bring her up or

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Speaker 4: Crime story with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: Now Rob Dick. She says she is a legal advocate

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Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've

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Speaker 1: Advocate for your daughter, legal advocate my rear end. Your

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Speaker 4: Tried for murder.

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Speaker 1: That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack and it

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Speaker 1: I listen to one episode.

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Speaker 2: And give one red penny to top mom.

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Speaker 7: How long have you been missing for?

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Speaker 6: My daughter's been missing for the last thirty one days?

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Speaker 7: Why are you calling now?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you call.

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Speaker 4: Thy one days ago?

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Speaker 6: I have been looking for her.

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Speaker 2: Stupid lies, all lies.

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Speaker 1: I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree with you more. Chris says Nancy

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Speaker 1: justice for Peyton. When she says she was advocating for

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Speaker 1: She says, Sandy Cole, I could stomach sending you the video.

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Speaker 1: Yalayla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Kasey Anthony

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Speaker 2: Go yell at her.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, I will, Lauren Colin, I'm going to. I

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Speaker 1: I never actually thought those words would come out of

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Speaker 1: Kelly's body found?

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Speaker 2: Just turned three?

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Speaker 4: She got that big right there listening.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's found decomposing in the swamp, Nancy after being

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Speaker 8: Going back to what Rob had said earlier, with her

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: You can take a deceased person and put them in

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Speaker 4: Know, Doctor Bethany Marshall.

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Speaker 1: When the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the

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Speaker 4: Do you know how many times I wish now.

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Speaker 1: I could have them at that age again, to you know,

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Speaker 1: take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair.

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Speaker 4: To take them to fun places to go. And I

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Speaker 4: think about this.

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Speaker 2: Child in a trash bag.

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Speaker 18: Nancy Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen

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Speaker 18: to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to

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Speaker 18: be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using

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Speaker 18: her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You

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Speaker 18: know why she was living with her parents, right, George

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Speaker 18: and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated

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Speaker 18: the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally,

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Speaker 18: Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist, and the therapist

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Speaker 18: says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter

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Speaker 18: to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what

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Speaker 18: precipitated all of this. At this Cindy came home and

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Speaker 18: said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking

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Speaker 18: care of Kayleie.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Then.

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Speaker 18: Casey had only been using her daughter as a pond

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Speaker 18: with her own grandparents. So as you used to say,

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Speaker 18: she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out

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Speaker 18: with other people, you know, just.

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Speaker 2: Live the high life.

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Speaker 18: This little girl was only used by her mother. And

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Speaker 18: anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going

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Speaker 18: to participate in that exploitation.

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Speaker 4: Of a child. Thank you, doctor Bethany. I managed to

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Speaker 4: get myself together.

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Speaker 1: One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or

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Speaker 1: analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes

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Speaker 1: of the victim.

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Speaker 2: And I just did that, thinking about my own children at.

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Speaker 1: That tender age, I had them with me while I

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Speaker 1: covered the Top mon Casey Anthony trial and investigated it myself.

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Speaker 4: But in the very latest top Mom Casey.

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Speaker 1: Anthony's return to TikTok stardom for any idiot that wants

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Speaker 1: to pay for it.

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Speaker 5: Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name

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Speaker 5: is Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents

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Speaker 5: are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them.

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Speaker 5: This is not in response to anything that they have

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Speaker 5: said or done. That's not to say that I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to respond at some point to some of the

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Speaker 5: things that they have said and done.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents

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Speaker 1: because she once she rides her daughter's corpse to Helen back,

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Speaker 1: then she'll have to find somebody else to attack, and

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Speaker 1: that would be George and Cindy. That is from at

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Speaker 1: Casey Anthony underscore substance. That's the new TikTok accounts. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of George, he passed a Polly Top Mom.

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Speaker 2: Can't say that. Listen.

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Speaker 13: I didn't know where she was at, correct, That's all

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Speaker 13: I'm asking.

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Speaker 7: So the question again, did you knowingly conceal Kelly's wordlines.

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Speaker 1: From our friends at any so, the story went from

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Speaker 1: I don't know where Kelly is to oh, yeah, you

505
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Speaker 1: know what. I was taking a nat with Kelly and

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Speaker 1: I woke up, she was gone and I started looking

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Speaker 1: for her, and the next thing I know, my dad

508
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Speaker 1: showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water. And

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Speaker 1: I just went away and had sex with my boyfriend

510
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Speaker 1: for thirty one days. I thought everything would just be fine.

511
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Speaker 1: Well it went from that too. George Anthony molested me

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Speaker 1: and my daughter, and then he killed my daughter to

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Speaker 1: cover up the molestation. But there's another theory as to

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Speaker 1: why tot Mom hatched the molestation story.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 11: Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A and

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Speaker 11: E Casey Anthony's parents, the Light Detector Test, that the

518
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Speaker 11: reason her daughter, Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation

519
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Speaker 11: is because she found out that her father, George Anthony,

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Speaker 11: was the main witness to testify against her in front

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Speaker 11: of the grand jury, besides the Sheriff's Department detective. When

522
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Speaker 11: asked why he testified in front of the grand jury,

523
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Speaker 11: George Anthony says he believed his daughter.

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Speaker 2: Casey Anthony belonged in jail.

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Speaker 1: What about that defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out

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Speaker 1: of la You gave me this big song and dance

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Speaker 1: about the baby, but what about dragging your own father

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Speaker 1: through the mud. He got up and testified and subjected

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Speaker 1: himself to cross examination on all of her lies about

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Speaker 1: him molesting little Cally.

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Speaker 4: She didn't.

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Speaker 1: She sat there silent and watched her parents be destroyed

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Speaker 1: on the stand.

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Speaker 2: So it's okay with you that she drags them through

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Speaker 2: the mud as well.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly, when she on trial for murder, sheet remembers that

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Speaker 1: her dad sex molested her. Oh yes, she said her

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Speaker 1: brother sex molested her too, That she was molested and

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Speaker 1: so was Cally. And the whole reason her father, a

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Speaker 1: former cop, murdered Kelly is because he was covering up

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Speaker 1: molestation on a two year old little girl.

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Speaker 4: Is that okay with you that she.

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Speaker 1: Drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money?

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Speaker 9: Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict

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Speaker 9: comes out the way we want.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm asking you about George.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking you about George.

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Speaker 2: You've already gotten on your soapbox about.

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Speaker 1: A verdict and the juror say they regret what I'm

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Speaker 1: asking you about George dragging.

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Speaker 4: Him through the mud.

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Speaker 9: Dragging him through the mud. This is the jury believed

553
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Speaker 9: what she said. Obviously the jury found that there was insufficience.

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Speaker 4: That's not what they said. Well, they said they didn't

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Speaker 4: understand of dead.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, how about her changing story and then

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Speaker 1: dragging George through the mud.

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Speaker 9: This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six

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Speaker 9: people thought another thing.

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Speaker 2: Or are going to address what she did to her father.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was true. We don't know whether or not

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Speaker 4: it was true.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you better watch out Troy Slayton, because there

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Speaker 1: is something called oral slander defamation.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a cold day in h double l that

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Speaker 2: I stand.

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Speaker 1: By and let somebody claim George molested anybody you're calling.

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Speaker 4: Casey, antell me it may be true, not guilty.

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Speaker 9: She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system, and

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Speaker 9: everybody here is branding her a murderer.

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Speaker 1: And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body

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Speaker 1: and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell

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Speaker 1: him back again.

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Speaker 4: Listen, can't you hear her?

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Speaker 5: For Pete's sake, for those of you who don't know.

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Speaker 5: My name is Casey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony.

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Speaker 5: My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not

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Speaker 5: about them. This is not in response to anything that

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Speaker 5: they have said or done. That's not to say that

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to respond at some point to some

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Speaker 5: of the things that they have said and done.

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Speaker 1: TikTok at. Casey Anthony underscore substantic crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 14: Can someone let me come on? My entire life has

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Speaker 14: been taken from me. Do you understand how I feel?

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Speaker 14: I mean, do you really understand how I feel on this?

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Speaker 14: But I'm just as much of a victim as the

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Speaker 14: rest of you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my stars, I'm just as much of a victim

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Speaker 1: as the rest of you.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of all her lies on George Rob Dick.

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Speaker 1: Joining me, Casey Anthony's former bodyguard now owner Renegade Investigations,

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Speaker 1: Rob Dick. Isn't it true that after she was brought

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Speaker 1: home the first time before she was charged with murder,

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Speaker 1: George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed her up against the wall,

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Speaker 1: demanding to know where's Keihy?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that true?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I was obviously at that point, George had no idea.

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 17: He wanted the answers. He knew that something had happened

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Speaker 17: to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the

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Speaker 17: answers what happened to Kailey?

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Speaker 2: And this was in front of you as well as Cindy.

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Speaker 2: But at any time did she say, Dad.

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Speaker 4: You had her last? Remember when you got her out of.

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Speaker 2: The pool after you molested her? Did any of that happen?

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Speaker 4: Rob Dick?

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Speaker 17: She never brought up those issues until trial.

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Speaker 1: Listen to more of Top Mom in her knee money

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Speaker 1: making venture.

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Speaker 5: As a proponent for the LGBTQ community for legal community

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Speaker 5: women's rights, I feel that it's important that I use

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Speaker 5: this platform that was thrust upon me and now look

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Speaker 5: at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that

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Speaker 5: it has been since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question,

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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, When is menopause?

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Speaker 4: Just tell me quick? When is minopause?

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Speaker 8: It's variable depended upon the population and specific women. You

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Speaker 8: began to think about forty to fifty that time frame generally.

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Speaker 2: So we're really not even close. She could still have

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Speaker 2: a baby.

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Speaker 4: That's the only news. That could be worse.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Top Mom has her hand in my pocket

624
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Speaker 1: and everybody else is making money off her child. By

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Speaker 1: the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey

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Speaker 1: Anthony Underscore Substack.

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Speaker 2: She could have another baby. It's possible.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'll say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now more of top Mom and her money grab.

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Speaker 5: As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for legal community

631
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Speaker 5: women's rates, I feel that it's important that I use

632
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Speaker 5: this platform that was thrust upon me and now look

633
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that

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Speaker 5: it has been since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: A proponent for the LGBTQ community. What did they ask

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Speaker 1: you to be their advocate? They have enough problems with

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Speaker 1: people attacking them every day just because of who they are.

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Speaker 2: Nothing more with friends like this, who needs an enemy?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they want.

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Speaker 1: You advocating for them, taught mom, What like you advocated

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Speaker 1: for your daughter or your mother or your father who.

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Speaker 2: You continue to take advantage of?

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Speaker 1: That is from a Top Mom's TikTok account at Casey

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Speaker 1: Anthony Underscore substec There's more listen.

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Speaker 5: My goal is to continue to help give a voice

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Speaker 5: to people, to give people tools and resources that they

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Speaker 5: can utilize so they actually know where they can turn to.

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Speaker 1: Now here is the woman who is asking for your

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Speaker 1: money talking about privacy. I've never seen anything like it

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Speaker 1: since Harry and Megan and their worldwide Privacy tour.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I will explain in great detail why it's so important

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Speaker 5: for people to protect their privacy.

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Speaker 4: It's not just.

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Speaker 5: Important to public figures, it's even more important to private individuals.

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Speaker 5: And with the current climate in our country especially, it's

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Speaker 5: that much more important.

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Speaker 2: The current climate.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, tot mom, the current climate has always

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Speaker 1: been anti murdering your child. That's from the official TikTok

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Speaker 1: account at Kase Anthony underscore subsect privacy. Let's see how

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Speaker 1: maintain your privacy. Possibly, don't get in a bar fight.

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Speaker 5: You just need a listener.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you even said that to me, I can

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Speaker 4: sign to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't exceived for stuff like this on your file.

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Speaker 4: Every train order.

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Speaker 15: I didn't have an.

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Speaker 16: Actual regrets her texting was not enough, or showing up.

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Speaker 6: Where I was was ub enough.

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Speaker 4: This is enough in front of witnesses.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you I taught mom Kasey Anthony didn't file

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Speaker 1: a restraining order after that bar fight from our friends

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Speaker 1: at Channel six because nobody would believe that she was

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Speaker 1: the victim. There's more, maintain privacy. Don't get in the

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Speaker 1: bar fight again. I apologize, I said doing too.

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Speaker 5: Her friend here with several people that I filmed her

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Speaker 5: here are long here as witnesses. So I'm not trying

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Speaker 5: to file her training where I just wanted to sell and.

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Speaker 16: I don't want to training where at most for six months.

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Speaker 11: And it can go away well, And I'll put it

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Speaker 11: as verbal threats because he said that she.

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Speaker 19: Keeps calming out and you can you can tell she's

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Speaker 19: along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal

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Speaker 19: with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and

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Speaker 19: podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's

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Speaker 19: Substack channel costs ten dollars a month or one hundred

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Speaker 19: dollars annually, although she offers free subscriptions with limited content.

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Speaker 1: One hundred dollars for an annual subscription to top Mom

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Speaker 1: Casey Anthony's new TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at tot Mom's mother from our friends

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Speaker 2: at A and.

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Speaker 1: E and to sit here and listen to her keep

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Speaker 1: making different stories as it fitsle.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, doctor Bethony, why can't Cindy breathe?

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Speaker 4: Right there?

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Speaker 18: Cindy is having a panic attack. Her heart rate is elevated.

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Speaker 18: She's overwhelmed. She can't think because she is reminiscent about

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Speaker 18: her granddaughter's death. She's having intrusive thoughts and memories. She's

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Speaker 18: thinking about that little girl lying in a swamp. She's

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Speaker 18: being interviewed. So when people have trauma and they begin

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Speaker 18: to talk about the original event, it actually reactivates the trauma.

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Speaker 18: It's as if they're in it. Nancy, you've heard of

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Speaker 18: the term flashback with people who have post traumatic stress disorder.

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Speaker 18: They have flashbacks. She is in a flashback and George

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Speaker 18: knows how to comfort her. You know, this could have

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Speaker 18: torn this couple apart, but they have become more and

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Speaker 18: more solid over time. Unlike their daughter who's not bonded

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Speaker 18: with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded with each other

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Speaker 18: and they care and love They care for and love

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Speaker 18: each other.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder what this new return where Tot Mom rears.

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Speaker 4: Her ugly head.

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Speaker 1: Most people would run for the hills as if they

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Speaker 1: had seen a monster, but apparently they're nearly three thousand

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Speaker 1: subscribers as we go to air, but this is her

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Speaker 1: first money grab by far.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 16: In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on

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Speaker 16: her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a reality TV show

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Speaker 16: about her life. The proposals submitted on her behalf would

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Speaker 16: provide an intimate window into the daily life of one

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Speaker 16: of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says,

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Speaker 16: in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating.

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Speaker 16: She will share her thoughts and opinions, and will give

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Speaker 16: an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who

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Speaker 16: passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the

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Speaker 16: guts to pick it up.

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Speaker 4: He wants to watch it a reality show.

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Speaker 1: In each episode, Top Mom goes about her day working, socializing,

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Speaker 1: and dating. To Shannon Butler joining me WFTV Channel nine.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what this is doing to George

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Speaker 1: and Cindy Anthony the re emergence of Top Mom. She

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Speaker 1: says she will address her parents. She just released a

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Speaker 1: statement threatening people if they slander her or to fame her.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what she's going to say about them.

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Speaker 12: You know, we still see them from time to time.

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Speaker 12: They still live here, they still have their home, and

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Speaker 12: I think what people maybe forget about what happened to

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Speaker 12: George and Cindya. It wasn't just what happened during that,

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Speaker 12: but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their

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Speaker 12: house was in foreclosure, They had a hard time, you know,

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Speaker 12: getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident

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Speaker 12: a few years ago. A lot has happened to them,

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Speaker 12: and it is difficult even now when you see them,

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Speaker 12: you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant,

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Speaker 12: to imagine what these folks are going through. And I

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Speaker 12: think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing.

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Speaker 12: I don't think that many people are surprised that she

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Speaker 12: has now re emerged. I think that was always going

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Speaker 12: to be the plan down the road. But I think

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Speaker 12: that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next,

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Speaker 12: because for them, it just seems to never forever.

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Speaker 1: Let me remind everyone, as Troy Slayton has done so,

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Speaker 1: Tom I'm Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the jurors now say they regret that and they were wrong,

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Speaker 1: But so what.

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Speaker 4: She was acquitted.

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Speaker 2: But every time that you subscribe or download her gibberish

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Speaker 2: and lies, you're putting another dollar.

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Speaker 4: In her pocket.

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Speaker 1: You as much as that jury has been shamed and ostracized,

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Speaker 1: you're voting not guilty every time you give top mom

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Speaker 1: one red penny. Now we remember an American hero. Police officer,

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Speaker 1: Scott Fitzgerald. South Jacksonville, p d, Illinois, passed away in

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Speaker 1: the line of duty. Survived by wife A Danielle, children,

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Speaker 1: Colton Finley. American hero officer Scott Fitzgerald. Nancy Grace signing

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Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,