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Speaker 1: I want to start today by going back a little

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Speaker 1: bit in history. A lot of people today talking about

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Speaker 1: judicial overreach, and that is a very real issue, but

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Speaker 1: there's another issue, judicial ethics. I want to remind people

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Speaker 1: back when I was unraveling the Russia collusion case, we

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Speaker 1: learned that liberal interests had gotten their hold on the

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Speaker 1: FBI and the Justice Department. They made friends, they had conferences.

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Speaker 1: In fact, one of the FBI agents who worked Paul

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Speaker 1: Manniford case actually while I was going to Soro's conferences

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Speaker 1: and met some of the people that later would help

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Speaker 1: develop the case for her. Well, something similar has happened now,

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Speaker 1: as we've noticed earlier this morning, if you got onto

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Speaker 1: justinews dot com, we broke a very important story. Judge

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Speaker 1: James Bosberg, the man who's blocking Donald Trump from deporting

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Speaker 1: criminal legal alien gang members. Just think about that criminal

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Speaker 1: alien gang members can't be deported by a president. He

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Speaker 1: attended a junket last summer in Idaho sponsored by a

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Speaker 1: group whose ceo, whose funders, and whose teachers meeting The

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Speaker 1: faculty who taught these judges at this conference last to

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Speaker 1: line are all decidedly anti Trump and anti trump Immigrana policy.

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Speaker 1: Something very important because it means that he was of

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Speaker 1: the same mind as he's political activists at this conference

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Speaker 1: before he went and issued a ruling that he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be impartial on. So today there's a big debate.

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Speaker 1: Should we ban judges from junkets? Why are judges taking

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Speaker 1: junkens from special interests free of charge?

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Speaker 2: Why are they doing that?

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Speaker 1: I asked famed Harvard law professor Emeritith Alan Derschwitz are

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Speaker 1: good friends about this? On my podcast Listen to Nobody

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Speaker 1: had to say, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it has to stop. The appearance of impropriety is

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Speaker 3: too great. At the very least, that has to be

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Speaker 3: rules that the judge cannot go on any junket with

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Speaker 3: anybody who has even the possibility of having an interest

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Speaker 3: in a pending or future future case. And if some

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Speaker 3: discussion comes up about any cases, that judge should leave

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Speaker 1: It's got to stop. That's what he said. A lot

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Speaker 1: of other people saying similar things.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to ask everybody on the show. Today's starting

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Speaker 1: with Congressman Andy Biggs, a member the House Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 1: that very question. But before we do that, let me

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Speaker 1: turn to my amazing posts. Amanda Head Amanda. Another busy

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Speaker 1: day for President Trump. Another twenty billion dollars an investment

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Speaker 1: walking its way into America right.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely looks so good.

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Speaker 5: One of them was in the form of Hyundai, a

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Speaker 5: steel plant coming I think to the tune of about

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Speaker 5: where with Greece, and that was just fantastic. He was

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Speaker 5: given a Holy Cross and compared with a lot smiling aloud,

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Speaker 5: it was very sh I tell you what, it was

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: The Greeks know how to know how to throw it down.

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Speaker 5: All right, But back on that same topic, here's some

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Speaker 5: more judicial activism for you. A panel of Appeals Court

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Speaker 5: judges heard the Trump administration's argument to lift that block

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Speaker 5: from Judge Bosberg on use of the Alien Enemies Act

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Speaker 5: to deport violent Trende Ragua gang members, and they reportedly

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Speaker 5: appeared divided, and one judge on that panel went as

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Speaker 5: far as to bring Nazis into the carversations.

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Speaker 4: Take a look. There were plainloads of people.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was also a class action.

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Speaker 7: There were plainloads of people. There were no procedures in

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Speaker 4: Nazi's got better treatment.

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Speaker 7: Under the Alien Enemy Act, and has happened here where

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Speaker 4: You know, historyonics and hyperboleson.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that they helped cool down the conversation

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, it is an extraordinary thing. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're right hyperbole is the right word to use. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: of legislation to tackle these judicial reforms and these concerns

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Speaker 1: political ethics and judicial overreach.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what he had.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, joining us now someone who's been on

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Speaker 1: the front lines of judicial reform, vice reform, all the

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Speaker 1: important reforms that Americans are crying for in their justice system.

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Speaker 1: He is from the great state of Arizona, Congressman, Andy Biks, Congressman.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, John, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: At the top of the store show, we mentioned this

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Speaker 1: story that we broke overnight. A judge who's going to

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Speaker 1: clearly be ruling in Trump cases if Trump's elected, goes

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Speaker 1: to a junket. He's surrounded by all these anti Trump people,

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Speaker 1: including people who have a very specific view on Trump's

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Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing we want our judges doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, John, this is a problem, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you really want to have your judges kind of stay

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Speaker 8: aloof if possible, from some of the top issues. And

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Speaker 8: if they do, you know, you can understand they're living

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Speaker 8: their life they might encounter something like this. But you

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Speaker 8: know what the response is a responsible judgement is going

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Speaker 8: to recuse themselves and they're going to say, look, I

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Speaker 8: unique knowledge, I've been engaged in things. In fact, you

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Speaker 8: could even say it has the appearance of impropriety and

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Speaker 8: then step away from it. But this judge doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: Do you think, given the circumstances you now know about

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Speaker 1: a lot of anti Trump sentiments, should judge Bohsburg at

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Speaker 1: this moment step aside from this case.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he may be too late to save him, you know,

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Speaker 6: Now, the biggest problem that you have.

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Speaker 8: Is that somebody like this doesn't appreciate that he might

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Speaker 8: I mean, he knows that they're coming up, and so

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Speaker 8: that's when he should stepped aside. He should step aside now,

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Speaker 8: of course. But we're down the road quite a good

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's already headed to the apos guard as

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Speaker 1: of today. It takes up of the case. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at some really important reforms, one of those being limiting

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Speaker 1: that are really paid for by special interests.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, probably time to do that and just say look,

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Speaker 8: no go, no more. That I mean Article three, Section

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Speaker 8: they get lifetime tenure. That's not the case. They get

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Speaker 8: their tenure is only for the extension of their good conduct.

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Speaker 8: Their good behavior, and when you're starting to do that

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Speaker 8: a resolution that you shouldn't. You've violated the good behavior

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Speaker 8: clause of Article three, Section one. The other aspect is

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Speaker 8: them to regulate themselves and say, you know, we cannot

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Speaker 8: do this. It gives the appearance of impropriety, and in

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Speaker 8: some cases it actually reinforces the biases that they have,

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Speaker 6: We've seen that in the j six cases in particular.

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Speaker 8: You saw a lot of that John and so it's

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Speaker 8: really actually kind of a horrific thing. And it adds

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Speaker 8: in this instance, in their judicial system, the system of justice.

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Speaker 6: Oddly enough, they don't trust the system of justice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an exe istential threat if we don't solve that,

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Speaker 1: because it's our justice system is so core to identity. Here,

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Speaker 1: you have both legislation for reform and I think also

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Speaker 1: you're considering a resolution what either one of those might

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Speaker 1: you amend to put this prohibition on future junkets.

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Speaker 8: That is that it doesn't fit in either two that

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Speaker 8: I have, but it can fit into a third one

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Speaker 8: that we're working on as well. So we by the way,

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Speaker 8: I think Democrats actually would support the no junkets.

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Speaker 8: So this is something that needs to happen. I do

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Speaker 8: believe you know what they're going to say, though, John,

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Speaker 8: And this is this is where you'll get a kick

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Speaker 8: of Congress shouldn't take junkets either, And that's that's not

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Speaker 8: a bad idea either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you'd be a favor of both, would you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you pay your own way all the time,

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Speaker 2: you don't, you don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn to some of the other cases

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Speaker 1: the Constitution. How important is this case getting to the

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Speaker 8: This is this is really critical that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 8: gets it because it's almost ludicrous. It causes a reason

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Speaker 8: to stare when you say, you're in charge of the

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Speaker 6: I actually, I actually have.

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Speaker 8: Another set of legislation that we've prepared that we're going

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Speaker 8: and firing. I mean, when did that become a basis?

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Speaker 8: I mean you start looking at the opinions here there

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Speaker 8: without rationale, legal or factual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's almost as though it's a

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Speaker 1: It's really remarkable that legislation that you're working on in

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Speaker 1: that front. It would create basically like a super court,

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Speaker 1: a judge seeking a nationwide merit really has the grounds

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Speaker 6: Well, that's that's dere elysis concept.

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Speaker 8: I think that considerably weakens the bill that I've put forward.

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Speaker 8: The bill I would put forward just said flat out

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Speaker 8: you don't have authority for a nationwide injunction. And also,

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Speaker 8: I do think it's a little bit backwards to say

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Speaker 8: You cannot have a nationwide injunction unless and until you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every judge has to do it in their district,

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Speaker 10: Thanks for joining us, Thank you, I'll keep you posted.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Just the News, Now Noise. The push

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Speaker 5: Now, the public also doesn't know much of anything about

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Speaker 5: from these folks joining us now to discuss all about

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Speaker 5: that president and Judicial Watch and the author of the

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Speaker 5: book Rights and Freedoms in Peril and investigative report on

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Speaker 5: the Left's attack on America. Tom Fit and Tom, great

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Speaker 9: To see you, good to be with you both.

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Speaker 5: We are over eight months from what happened in July

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Speaker 5: You're suing for records, tell us which I think you're

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Speaker 11: We're suing specifically for records because it's not just a

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Speaker 9: It's really inexcusable.

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Speaker 1: It's insane that you have to see it to get

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Speaker 11: The silence from the FBI and the Secret Service is deafening.

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Speaker 2: Have had it by now.

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Speaker 11: Because it really hasn't been consequences for doing what they're

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Speaker 11: for two hundred plus years, are ill equipped and constitutionally

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Speaker 11: unable to run the show in that regard. And there's

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Speaker 11: got to be a significant pushback and the Supreme Court

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Speaker 11: needs to take action if they can't lecture Americans, Oh,

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Speaker 11: you can't use impeachment because the rule of law traditionally

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Speaker 11: pursued is sufficient. Well, they need to show that works

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Speaker 11: sooner rather than later, because times of wasting lives are

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Speaker 11: on the line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a great important point. Every time one

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Speaker 1: of these gang members stays here or does something else,

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Speaker 1: they're endangering American lives. It really is a life and

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Speaker 1: death issue.

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Speaker 2: Tom. I want to turn to something.

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Speaker 1: We all discovered when we were doing unraveling Russia collusion

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Speaker 1: that the Soros and the liberal NGO foundation world was

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Speaker 1: surrounding FBI agents and justice deprivate prosecutors taking the conferences

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Speaker 1: wanting and dotting them, and some of those people would

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Speaker 1: go to those conferences later would turn out to be

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Speaker 1: important people pursuing the liberal investigation of Donald Trump under

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Speaker 1: Russia collusions.

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Speaker 2: Very flawed theory.

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Speaker 1: Judges are also taking these junkets, Judge Bozburg going to

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Speaker 1: one this past summer just a few months before issues

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Speaker 1: this ruling where the sponsor, the teachers, the people affiliated

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Speaker 1: with it, and the funders all have a decidedly anti

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Speaker 1: Trump bent and by the way, a very different view immigration,

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Speaker 1: by the way of you, consistent with Judge Bozburg's immigration

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Speaker 1: but not consistent with President Trump. Is it time to

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Speaker 1: end junkeans for justices and keep them above these sort

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Speaker 1: of special interest influences.

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Speaker 11: Well, certainly they have to be disclosed in a timely way.

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Speaker 11: I think the federal law arguably should require more timely

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Speaker 11: disclosures in that regard. I think it's especially ironic since

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Speaker 11: the leftist Democrat senators suggests that any judge or any

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Speaker 11: lawyer who has spoken at a Federalist Society event, which

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Speaker 11: is a conservative legal organization, is disqualified from being a judge.

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Speaker 11: And here we have judges, and frankly, there were some

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Speaker 11: jump judges who went there as well, who go, as

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Speaker 11: you highlight, to a group that's part of the anti

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Speaker 11: Trump movement, and they've got to be conscious. Look, the

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Speaker 11: expectation is that judges are public figures, public officials that

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Speaker 11: should educate the public and participate in proceedings that helped

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Speaker 11: the public understand the role and function of the judiciary

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Speaker 11: under our constitutional system. They should be careful and cautious

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Speaker 11: about doing it with groups who are not extremists and

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Speaker 11: who are not overtly political, such as this group seems

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Speaker 11: to be.

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Speaker 6: As you point out, Tom, before we let.

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Speaker 5: You go, I have a very important question, because you

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Speaker 5: are always on the election integrity front. As election night

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Speaker 5: closed down, it looked like President Trump had millions upon

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Speaker 5: millions in margin in the popular vote, and that got

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Speaker 5: narrower and narrow and he obviously still won the popular vote.

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Speaker 4: But I knew it.

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Speaker 5: I saw it happening in California. They kept counting and

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Speaker 5: kept counting and kept counting, And you have now sued

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Speaker 5: on behalf of Congressman darryl Issa tell us about the

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Speaker 5: status of that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we sued the stop California for accounting ballots that

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Speaker 11: arrive after election day. I would argue, you got to stop,

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Speaker 11: You got to know who went on a lite election day.

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Speaker 11: But in the least ballasts that arrive after election day

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Speaker 11: shouldn't be counted. We had a big fist circuit series

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Speaker 11: of rulings that affirm that's a violation of law. And

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Speaker 11: what's interesting in California, there are other states that do

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Speaker 11: it too. They count ballists that arrive fro up the

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Speaker 11: seven days after election day. And our analysis that we

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Speaker 11: shared in the lawsuit if for Daryl isay, as you

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Speaker 11: point out, Amanda, highlights that there were at least two

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Speaker 11: congressional races that on election day Republicans had won, but

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Speaker 11: they lost as a result of what I believe to

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Speaker 11: be the unlawful counting of ballots that arrived after election day,

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Speaker 11: and those two votes in a closely contested House, as

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Speaker 11: you see every day, you're reporting it every day, how

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Speaker 11: close the House is in terms of Republicans. That makes

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Speaker 11: a big that makes that it may make a big difference,

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Speaker 11: the difference between a peaceful legislation, significant legislation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when there is no end date that

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Speaker 5: it makes it easy to kind of backfit when you

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Speaker 5: need it, and which is absolutely why you got years.

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Speaker 2: Why not count them for years?

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Speaker 8: Why not?

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Speaker 4: Why not? Why have in place an in data at all? Everybody?

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Speaker 5: The book again is write some freedoms in peril and

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Speaker 5: investigative report in the left attack on America. Judicial Watch

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Speaker 5: President Tom Finden always on the watch, as his organization says, thank.

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Speaker 4: You so much.

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Speaker 6: Tom.

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Speaker 4: All right, everybody coming up.

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Speaker 5: US and Russian negotiators met in Saudi Arabia today. Could

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Speaker 5: a ceasefire in Ukraine be coming soon? We're going to

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Speaker 5: talk about that after the break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in America. A little breaking news just a

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Speaker 2: few moments ago.

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Speaker 1: The Postmaster General Lewis Joid has resigned, if you mind you.

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Speaker 1: He was appointed by President Trump doing his first term,

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Speaker 1: served all the way through the Biden administration, but stepping

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Speaker 1: down today at mid reports that the Post Office is

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Speaker 1: going to have to cut some major expenses in the

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Speaker 1: next few months. We have more of that over at

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Speaker 1: just the news accounts, and we'll check it out.

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Speaker 2: All right. A lot's going on in the.

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Speaker 1: World today, I thought we would turn to one of

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Speaker 1: our most trusted voices on national security. She's the vice

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Speaker 1: president of the Lexingen Institute and the National Security Once.

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Speaker 2: She is Rebecca and she joins us. Not Rebecca, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Glad to be here, all right.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Russia, Ukraine, some continuing movement,

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Speaker 1: some discussions in Saudi Arabia. Give us your thought about

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Speaker 1: where we are we running in place? Are we still

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Speaker 1: making some progress?

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Speaker 12: We're making progress towards a sea spire. It's going to

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Speaker 12: be a while. Putin has a taste for war. He's

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Speaker 12: going to make it difficult every inch. But what's happened

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Speaker 12: so far is I think you know, the issues have

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Speaker 12: narrowed considerably, and right now the issue being discussed.

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Speaker 4: Is a sea spire in the Black Sea.

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Speaker 12: This is so interesting because Ukraine has absolutely dominated in

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Speaker 12: the Black Sea. NATO and the US helped them with

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Speaker 12: unmanned surface vessels and coastal defenses, and Ukraine took out

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Speaker 12: forty percent of Russia's Black Sea fleet. Russia had to

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Speaker 12: move the headquarters out of Crimea further back from the

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Speaker 12: battle zone. So this seasfire would be very important and

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Speaker 12: also Ukraine needs to have free access along those Black

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Speaker 12: Sea ports, particularly the last port they have, which is Odessa,

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Speaker 12: in order for Ukraine to have a viable economy going forward.

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Speaker 12: So I think this Black Sea ceasfire may be the

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Speaker 12: next thing to pop out of these negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And Putin seems to like to squeeze every ounce of

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Speaker 5: juice out of every limon that he finds. I've heard

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Speaker 5: it said about him that once once an agreement is established,

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Speaker 5: he likes to put a boulder in the road and

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Speaker 5: negotiate for its removal. And it kind of seems like

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Speaker 5: that when it comes to these extra conditions being placed

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Speaker 5: on the seasfire.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't look like that to you.

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Speaker 12: Oh, it is so frustrating. And let me be clear,

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Speaker 12: Fluton's a bad guy. It's a Lenska and Ukraine are

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Speaker 12: the winners here for holding all this off. You know

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Speaker 12: that said clearly, President Trump's strategy is to to grow

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Speaker 12: US Russia relations find some incentives with Putin in order

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Speaker 12: to get this ceasefire done in Ukraine. And that's what

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Speaker 12: we see unfolding in the technical teams are the ones

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Speaker 12: meeting at this point in Saudi Arabia, And I think

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Speaker 12: they're making progress.

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Speaker 4: It's just very slow. There's a lot of battle front.

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Speaker 12: To dispose of to even get to this kind of

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Speaker 12: thirty day ceasefire that would then lead to more negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, there's a lot of details so to

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Speaker 1: be hammered out. Its complicated situation. It's good to know

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Speaker 1: that there's progress. I want to turn to something that

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Speaker 1: puts us on parallel with our fight with China. President

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Speaker 1: Trump last week announcing that the sixth generation of our

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Speaker 1: fighter jets F forty seven, it's on its way in

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Speaker 1: The twenty billion dollar contract has been led. Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about where this puts us in. Did

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Speaker 1: China force his hand on President trumpstanding on this?

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Speaker 4: Well, I tell you not a moment too soon.

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Speaker 12: The Biden administration had delayed making a decision between Boeing

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Speaker 12: and Key Martin on this plane. Both companies had planes

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Speaker 12: flying for the last few years. They've flown several hundred

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Speaker 12: hours super secret stealth demonstrators.

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Speaker 4: Boeing's the winner. They'll build this in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 12: They've actually got a good tradition of innovative airplanes there.

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Speaker 12: Everything from the X thirty seven space plane. They even

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Speaker 12: make an amazing underwater vehicle called the Orca. So the

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Speaker 12: Boeing Fanom works in Saint Louis is really ready to go.

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Speaker 12: But China's already flown to so called six generation highly

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Speaker 12: stealthy composite based aircraft, and the US Air Force just

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Speaker 12: needs to go really fast. And the cheapest staff of

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Speaker 12: the Air Force has promised that this plane will make

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Speaker 12: its first flight during President Trump's administration. He said that exactly,

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Speaker 12: I think it could be even sooner. So we may

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Speaker 12: see a first flight of this plane. Then we have

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Speaker 12: to move it into production in order to deter China

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Speaker 12: in the Pacific.

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Speaker 5: Rebecca, I don't mean to belabor the past, but President

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Speaker 5: Trump mentioned what you've said about the Biden administration waffling

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Speaker 5: on this program, and Heaven indicated last week that there

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Speaker 4: Was that a resource problem? Why would they have done that? Oh,

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Speaker 4: this was absolutely true.

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Speaker 12: We thought we were going to lose this and the

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Speaker 12: Air Force has invested in it for ten years of

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Speaker 12: developing very exciting new engines. Budget was part of the

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Speaker 12: issue figuring out the operational concept. But I just have

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Speaker 12: to say it was just the mindset of the Biden

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Speaker 12: Pentagon at that time. So President Trump, Secretary Defense heag Seth,

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Speaker 12: this is his first big acquisition decision. They've swept all

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Speaker 12: that away, and the Air Force is very excited to

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Speaker 12: be going full steam ahead with this aircraft. It's a

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Speaker 12: very stealthy fighter, it's got some extra range. It is

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Speaker 12: not cheap, but hey, we are deterring China. We need

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Speaker 12: something that can get in behind China's aircraft, air defenses,

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Speaker 12: electronic warfare, all their drones. They're trying to lock us

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Speaker 12: out of the Pacific, and this X forty seven will

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Speaker 12: make sure the US Air Force can get in there

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Speaker 12: and break up that bubble and make sure China can't dominate.

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Speaker 1: Today's warfare has fought in seconds, not in years, and

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Speaker 1: I think that pedd got had to catch up for

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it has. Rebecca, I'm going to turn to one

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Speaker 1: other hotspot in the world right now, Israel Hamas the

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Speaker 1: Middle East lots going on.

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Speaker 2: Trump striking Yemen.

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Speaker 1: The Israel now go back at war with both of

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Speaker 1: its Iranian proxy surrounding it.

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Speaker 2: What do you see playing out there? And is this

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Speaker 2: the end of Hamas? Israel? Just wait until and finishes

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Speaker 2: off of US.

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Speaker 12: Well, Israel has always succeeded when they apply that military pressure.

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Speaker 12: We're supposed to be in phase two of the Piece deal.

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Speaker 12: It hasn't worked out. There are still hostages, Hamas is

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Speaker 12: back to being uncooperative. This left Israel really no choice

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Speaker 12: but to continue some targeted strikes. We're seeing some response

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Speaker 12: back from Hamas and Hezbola, but hey, Hamas, Hezbola really

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Speaker 12: really decimated at this point, and you know, Hamas, there's

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Speaker 12: just no place for them to go. They cannot participate

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Speaker 12: in the running of the Gaza Strip. They have got

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Speaker 12: to be demilitarized, and frankly, this point Hamas can choose

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Speaker 12: what that looks like. They could either continue to be

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Speaker 12: destroyed or they can come back and start to get

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Speaker 12: back on the board with that agreement.

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Speaker 5: Rebeca, before we let you go, Speaking of those strikes,

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Speaker 5: there was a single conversation between NSA Mike Waltz, Vice

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Speaker 5: President Vance, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about fifteen or

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Speaker 5: so other officials, and somehow a reporter got into this chat.

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Speaker 5: I know that we don't want to go back to

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Speaker 5: walkie talkies, but sometimes it feels like if we go

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Speaker 5: back to basics.

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Speaker 4: That's the best way to be secure. What's the remedy here?

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Speaker 12: Okay, clearly that shouldn't have happened, But I got to

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Speaker 12: tell you, those operational strikes from the harry S.

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Speaker 4: Truman aircraft carried others.

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Speaker 12: They were already locked and loaded by the time this

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Speaker 12: text started.

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Speaker 4: So the operational impact.

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Speaker 12: Of this really really been overblown. I think they're kind

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Speaker 12: of trying to embarrass Waltz and Hags and that team.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure they'll clean up the comms, but really this

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Speaker 12: was not a threat to our US forces in the

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Speaker 12: Middle East, and not a huge operational slip up.

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Speaker 4: And we saw how well the HARRYS.

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Speaker 12: Truman, their strike group and the air force there did

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Speaker 12: against those hoothy targets. And hey, they've got plenty more

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Speaker 12: striking power and central command as plenty more hooty targets.

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Speaker 3: If need be.

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Speaker 1: We'd be surprised if we saw a few more detonated

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Speaker 1: over the next few months. Rebecca has always such a

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Speaker 1: great hour to have you on. We always get great

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Speaker 1: sage advice from you, and thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you great perspective on everything. All right, folks, we're

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Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain from the Article three project. We'll be here

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody to Just the News New Noise. We've

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Speaker 5: been talking a lot about how the Trump administration and

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Speaker 5: Congress can deal with activist judges all night.

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Speaker 4: So why don't we bring in.

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Speaker 5: One war who can talk about this and settle it

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Speaker 5: for ust time now to get to senior counsel at

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Speaker 5: the Article three Project, Will Chamberlain.

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Speaker 4: Will thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that every day when we hear

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Speaker 5: a new story about a new block by a judge,

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Speaker 5: new injunction, a lot of Americans are thinking to themselves, Wow,

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Speaker 5: this seems like a lot, and it is right comparatively,

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Speaker 5: I think fifteen so far as this is unprecedented.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, there's been as many either temporary injunctions

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Speaker 13: or nationwide preliminary injunctions in the first two months of

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Speaker 13: the second Trump administration as there were in the entirety

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Speaker 13: of the Biden administration, most of them from left wing

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Speaker 13: justices or judges rather, and then many of them very

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Speaker 13: very clearly lawless, impinging on core Article two authorities that

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Speaker 13: the president impinging on areas where it's pretty obvious there's

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Speaker 13: no role for judicial review. And I mean, unfortunately Chief

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Speaker 13: Justice Roberts and Supreme Court hasn't put a stop.

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Speaker 9: To it yet.

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Speaker 13: I think that we will see some pushbacks soon. So

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Speaker 13: I hopeless often miss I guess, but I think there

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Speaker 13: will be some pushback soon. But it has been a

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Speaker 13: serious problem in the way that it's hampered the administration

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Speaker 13: from getting much of its work done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well, earlier today we had a story Judge Bosberg, the

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Speaker 1: man who made that deportation ruling and stop the illegal

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Speaker 1: or the deportion of illegal alien KRANK members. He attended

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Speaker 1: a junket last summer, clearly a liberal group or a

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Speaker 1: liberal anti Trump group, liberal funders, anti Trump faculty teaching

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Speaker 1: these judges. Your thoughts on this system where judges still

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Speaker 1: get to take free trips from specialises.

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Speaker 2: Is it time maybe to put into it.

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Speaker 13: I think so, I think, I mean, obviously I don't

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Speaker 13: think judges should be getting free trips.

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Speaker 9: That seems like a problem.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I generally have a thesis that we don't

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Speaker 13: pay our civil servants enough and we don't punish corruption

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Speaker 13: harshly enough. So you know, Singapore does is much better

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Speaker 13: than us. They pay very very top salaries to their

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Speaker 13: top people, and then you know, we'll use the cane

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Speaker 13: on the people who are corrupt. You know that basically

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Speaker 13: it's just you know.

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Speaker 2: That's a big disintead I'll tell you that. Yeah, right, right, Well.

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Speaker 13: It's just it's aligning incentives properly. And I mean this

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Speaker 13: is you know, you see, we've actually had instances where

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Speaker 13: you had prominent appellate judges who were maybe going to

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Speaker 13: be in the Supreme Court, but you know, had very

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Speaker 13: very prestigious positions on circuit courts and they left judging

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Speaker 13: after fifteen years or so to go be working private

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Speaker 13: practice because they simply weren't making enough money to justify

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Speaker 13: continuing to do it, and you know, their family obligations

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Speaker 13: were enough. And I mean, yeah, maybe it doesn't maybe

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Speaker 13: it sounds sort of ridiculous to normal working class people,

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Speaker 13: but you know, you have to think about it relative

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Speaker 13: to the salary that could command in the private sector.

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Speaker 13: And when the salary they could command in the private

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Speaker 13: sector is twenty times what they're making as a judge,

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Speaker 13: it's kind of hard to pass that up.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point. Let me ask you one quick question.

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Speaker 1: The fact that this was a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: at this conference for anti immigration meeting anti Trump immigration policies,

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Speaker 1: doesn't give the Trump a legal team a chance to

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Speaker 1: seek a disqualification motion against Judge Buzzburg.

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Speaker 13: I think they could try. I doubt it, mean I

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Speaker 13: doubt it will succeed, obviously. I think that they're more

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Speaker 13: likely to just simply prevail on the merits of the

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Speaker 13: case before they ever got to a refusal. I think

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Speaker 13: they'd need to see some more direct bias against him.

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Speaker 13: And I think, you know, it's one of these things

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Speaker 13: where the guy I was simply a fellow of this

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Speaker 13: organization that I think probably used to be bipartisan and

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Speaker 13: has a history of doing the fellowship in a bipartisan fashion.

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Speaker 13: But the way that our politics has shifted in the

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Speaker 13: last eight years, what used to be there used to

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Speaker 13: be a lot of areas of by parisan consensus, and

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Speaker 13: now those sort of modern Republicans that would have made

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Speaker 13: up that consensus are aligned with the Democrats, and we

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Speaker 13: have this sort of populace versus elite nature of our

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Speaker 13: politics now. So I think that sort of explains why

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Speaker 13: you have these sort of lingering quote unquote bipartisan conferences

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Speaker 13: and get togethers that aren't really by partisan anymore, and

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Speaker 13: judges certainly shouldn't be participating in Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, humans are fallible and then includes judges. I know

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Speaker 5: that we would all like to think that they are

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Speaker 5: robots and they can operate completely with neutrality, but that

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Speaker 5: just simply isn't the case.

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Speaker 4: Case is the answer?

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Speaker 5: Maybe making refusal back in.

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Speaker 9: Style, I mean refusal is one.

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Speaker 13: I think the key phrase that you know your viewers

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Speaker 13: should be thinking about is jurisdiction stripping. So you know,

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Speaker 13: we are actually pushing and impeachment articles brand Gills impeachment

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Speaker 13: articles against Judge Bozberg. We think his rulings were actually

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Speaker 13: an impeachable act. There were such a dramatic encroachment that's

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Speaker 13: on the president's powers.

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Speaker 9: But we're not fools.

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Speaker 13: We don't have sixty seven votes in the Senate to

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Speaker 13: convict him and remove them from the bench. But to

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Speaker 13: strip the jurisdiction from these lower court judges, it just

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Speaker 13: requires Congress to pass a bill. That's something that's within

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Speaker 13: Congress's authority. It's specified right in the Constitution that the

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Speaker 13: inferior courts are under the jurisdiction of Congress. So not

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Speaker 13: only can you completely restructure and reorganize existing lower courts,

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Speaker 13: you can create entirely new courts that are there to

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Speaker 13: hear cases on specific issues. And you know, given the

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Speaker 13: way that various judges are treating these immigration issues, it

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Speaker 13: might be time for some national lower level immigration courts

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Speaker 13: and to strict this jurisdiction from federal courts in various places.

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Speaker 1: We had several members on Congress in the show, including

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Speaker 1: today Indy Biggs. There was like four or five pieces

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Speaker 1: of legislation coming down the bike in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Josh Hawley, Indy Biggs.

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Speaker 1: So the ideas range from creating a special court to

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Speaker 1: consider nationwide injunctions removing that from the ability of a judge,

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Speaker 1: to an outride ban on an individual judge being able

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Speaker 1: to do an injunction outside of their district. Where do

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Speaker 1: you think that might end up in Congress? Which and

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Speaker 1: by the way, which do you prefer?

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Speaker 13: I think I actually do like the idea of a

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Speaker 13: nationwide injunction limiting the ability of you to enjoin anybody

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Speaker 13: outside of your district.

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Speaker 9: I think it don't resolves much of a problem.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it also will reduce much of the eagerness of

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Speaker 13: these people to pull the trigger on these injunctions, except

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Speaker 13: when justified.

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Speaker 9: I also think I think why not both.

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Speaker 13: You know, Also, having a multi judge panel before you

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Speaker 13: join the government in the fashion seems like a reasonable

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Speaker 13: thing to do to take it out of the power

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Speaker 13: of one judge, because it's really obvious that this is

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Speaker 13: a loophole that's being exploited effectively in our system, especially

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Speaker 13: with temporary restraining orders, because they normally aren't appealable, but

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Speaker 13: temporary restraining orders are supposed to fix the status quo

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Speaker 13: in place, and what's happening with the a lot of

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Speaker 13: the things these judges are doing is they're actively forcing

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Speaker 13: the government to do something new to restore the status

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Speaker 13: quo ante and that's a dramatic impingement on government power,

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Speaker 13: and if they can't appeal it, it just causes all

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Speaker 13: sorts of chaos. Like there was a brief that came

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Speaker 13: out today where their governments talking about how difficult it

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Speaker 13: is to restore sixteen thousand people they just fired to

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Speaker 13: their jobs, and if they win their order, they'll fire

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Speaker 13: them again.

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Speaker 9: So it doesn't really make much sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, unemployment whiplash for those people who are caught in purgatory. Basically,

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Speaker 5: we will try to rule in senior counsel at Article

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Speaker 5: three project.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for being here and I thanks for

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Speaker 4: discussing this.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me absolutely all right, everybody, are some

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Speaker 5: on the leftist protest we are seeing around the country

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Speaker 5: totally above board. We're going to talk to a man

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Speaker 5: who might have some insight into who's organizing all of this.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 5: It's the final segment, and the so called grassroots protest

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Speaker 5: against TESLA appear to be well anything but Public records

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Speaker 5: reportedly revealed that a wealthy Democrat donor has funneled over

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Speaker 5: five hundred thousand dollars into Indivisible Action, a political action

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Speaker 5: group driving the anti anti Musk demonstrations.

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Speaker 4: But is that really true?

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Speaker 5: Are some of these protesters around the country being astro turf?

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Speaker 5: What about Democrat rallies joining us now to discuss that.

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Speaker 5: As the CEO of Crowds on Demand, Adam Swart, Adam,

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Speaker 5: thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 6: My pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: John and Amanda delighted.

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Speaker 4: To who's the source of the five hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the challenge.

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Speaker 14: I don't want to be accused of stirring anything up.

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Speaker 14: I don't want to say, but I suspect it's one

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Speaker 14: of the tech the real tech wives of Seattle or

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Speaker 14: the Bay Area of We talk a lot about the

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Speaker 14: gender gap among young people, but that gender gap is

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Speaker 14: really equally present if you look at the differences between

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Speaker 14: the tech billionaires who are increasingly turning conservative or at

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Speaker 14: least more libertarian, versus their ex wives who are very,

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Speaker 14: very liberal. And I wonder if there's some drive by

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Speaker 14: a lot of the x wives of the tech billionaires

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Speaker 14: to get back at their husbands here failing.

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Speaker 1: A TV reality show being born to them. I love

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Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. And tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about what your company does in the industry

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Speaker 1: that a lot of Americans don't know about, which are

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Speaker 1: there are companies that just go out to field stadiums

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Speaker 1: and fill protests, right, That's right.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly what we do.

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Speaker 14: We are the largest protest company in the country legal protests.

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Speaker 14: By the way, I'm a big believer in the First Amendment,

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Speaker 14: but I believe you have.

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Speaker 6: To do it legally.

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Speaker 14: Right, which means no violence, no vandalism, no blocking streets.

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Speaker 6: That's what we do.

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Speaker 14: We are a source for organizing peaceful demonstrations by people

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Speaker 14: who genuinely support a cause, and that's what Crowds on

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Speaker 14: Demand has done for almost thirteen years now.

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Speaker 5: There seems to be a correlation between people who genuinely

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Speaker 5: have a concern or a love for an issue, whatever

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Speaker 5: the case may be, and a lack of violence. It

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Speaker 5: seems like when you get paid agitators in there or

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Speaker 5: paid activists in there, that it inevitably turns agitative.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't seem like that to you.

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Speaker 14: I think what you have, Amanda, is you have outside agitators.

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Speaker 14: Some of them are paid directly. Of them, I would

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Speaker 14: say they're mercenaries. They actually pay themselves through their loot right.

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Speaker 14: They've attached themselves to BLM, they've attached themselves to the

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Speaker 14: riots in Ferguson. They see any opportunity for that. There's

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Speaker 14: chaos and there's right. They don't care about TESLA, they

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Speaker 14: don't care about MUSS, they don't care about racial justice.

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Speaker 14: But if they see an opportunity to loot and then

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Speaker 14: therefore put it, give it some sort of social justice undertone.

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Speaker 14: They see themselves as virtuous while all they're really doing

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Speaker 14: is contributing to chaos.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating. There's a whole layer of corporateness through this, all, Right,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people assume all these protests are organic,

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Speaker 1: that's the way we think. But a lot of them

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Speaker 1: are telling some protests that you know, weren't organic, that

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Speaker 1: they had some paid protesters out there to give the

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Speaker 1: up trade secrets, but give us some general topics.

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Speaker 14: Well, John, there's no such thing as an organic protest

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Speaker 14: because there's money behind every movement, whether it's on left

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Speaker 14: or right, and in my opinion, that doesn't negate the

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Speaker 14: fact that people genuinely support a movement, right. I mean,

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Speaker 14: if you look back at the Tea Party movement in

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Speaker 14: twenty ten, the Koch brothers were funding that movement. But

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Speaker 14: that doesn't mean there weren't a lot of Americans that

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Speaker 14: were very upset about the state of affairs.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 14: So, whether it's BLM, I mean, BLM was completely corporate controlled, right,

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Speaker 14: It was a agreement essentially between corporate America and these activists.

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Speaker 14: We're going to give you money if you basically don't

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Speaker 14: call us out on our actions. So they were basically

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Speaker 14: paying indulgences of sorts and it worked out very well

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Speaker 14: for them for a long time. Now they're trying to

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Speaker 14: do the same thing to this administration.

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Speaker 5: Adam, we only got about forty five seconds left, but

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Speaker 5: I have to know, and I feel like you're the

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Speaker 5: perfect person to ask me, as you probably have a

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Speaker 5: whole legal staff who tells you what you need to

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Speaker 5: do and what you can't do. When it comes to

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Speaker 5: paid organizers, if a demonstration turns violent, can those are

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Speaker 5: organizers be held liable?

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Speaker 14: Generally not unless they're instigating the violence, right, And my

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Speaker 14: advice to all organizers is keep it peaceful. And my

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Speaker 14: opinion is people need to be judged as individuals. If

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Speaker 14: they do something violent, if they break the law, they

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Speaker 14: need to go to jail. But people who are demonstrating,

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Speaker 14: even if they're misguided or stupid, should not be put

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Speaker 14: in jail for the actions of others.

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Speaker 9: That's my opinion of it.

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Speaker 4: It's great take on that, Adam. Sure. This is a

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Speaker 4: really great information.

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Speaker 5: CEO of Crowds on Demand, Thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 14: With us, Adams.

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Speaker 6: Thanks to you both have a great EVA.

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Speaker 5: Same to you, all right, everybody, Yeah, absolutely good insight

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Speaker 5: into that.

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Speaker 4: I just wondered how that breakdown happens.

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Speaker 5: All right, everybody that's going to do it for us tonight,

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Speaker 5: but Grant Sinchfield is going to be here to take

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Speaker 5: you through the next hour.

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Speaker 4: Wee.

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Speaker 5: On the other hand, we'll be back tomorrow night at

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Speaker 5: six pm Eastern right here to break much more news. Everybody,

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Speaker 5: head over to justinnews dot com for constant breaking headlines.

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Speaker 4: We'll say Tom