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Speaker 1: is you're running against him for president, so you don't

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Speaker 1: want to look like you're backing him. But there's certain

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Speaker 1: issues that are just for me as simple as right

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Speaker 1: and wrong. This is that example. This is not a

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Speaker 1: trick question. This should not be a trick question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty simple question. It's not a fake question,

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Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a BS question.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 1: This is a real question, and it's one that should

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Speaker 1: be able to be answered by him, especially because he

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Speaker 1: was there when he was being targeted. He could have

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Speaker 1: gone there, he could have talked about that, he could

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Speaker 1: have made it clear. He deliberately chose not to. And

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Speaker 1: the question has to be this, why why did he

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Speaker 1: choose not to go there? Because I think he's a

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Speaker 1: partisan hack now, and I think that's part of the

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Speaker 1: bigger problem. Five three five nine seven three two. I

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Speaker 1: also think this is a really bad look for him,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're kicking off your presidential campaign. That this

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Speaker 1: is how you answer a question. You know, I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with you running against Donald Trump, that's your right. But

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Speaker 1: when you see what people have done, and you see

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Speaker 1: how people have reacted, and you see what people have said,

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Speaker 1: and you see what people have advocated for in these

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Speaker 1: scenarios against your former running mate and former member of

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Speaker 1: you know, the executive branch, you should do better than this,

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Speaker 1: like this was a this was a this was a

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Speaker 1: weak response from Mike Pence