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Speaker 1: to millennials. Welcome back to another edition to the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by Room Feld. Well here i was Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosatal. What is up, boys? Hey Dan?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Happy Monday morning to all of you. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like somebody's got to kill me. I won't finish it.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, and you know there are worse things

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Speaker 1: that could happen in the world. We got up this morning.

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Speaker 1: You guys put on your matching NFL network shirts. You

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Speaker 1: guys don't have a case of the mondays you're feeling.

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Speaker 1: You've got Google interns. Look, if you give me a

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Speaker 1: free shirt, I'm gonna wear it every time. My point being,

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Speaker 1: we came to work and now we're recording a fun

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Speaker 1: now where we have the whole shows up. It's perfect.

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Speaker 1: You can see Chris's care is growing out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Dave looks like he's twenty seven years old. Mark three

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Speaker 1: I think your body looks nice. This is the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, UM, and it's we're now we're in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the preseason. We're in the meat of

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Speaker 1: the preseason. The week two games are all done. UM,

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Speaker 1: and how everything in Cleveland goes to hell? Well that

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Speaker 1: not be a great human being. Well that's possible. But

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Speaker 1: if you're a defender, you can sit back and like, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll start out. If the quarterbacks running right, well

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Speaker 1: you know, let's give the quarterback to time to decide

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I mean, that's your job,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they the rule is correct, you

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Speaker 1: should be allowed to hit him. It's a really tricky

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Speaker 1: thing for the league to police because Chip Gilly is

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Speaker 1: probably telling the truth. I'm assuming he's telling the truth

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Speaker 1: that this is just a normal shotgun run. But part

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Speaker 1: of the effectiveness of their entire offense is that every

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Speaker 1: play looks the same. That the set up for that

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Speaker 1: planned shotgun run is very similar to the setup for

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Speaker 1: a read option play, and that's why defenders have a

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Speaker 1: tough time and they hesitate. It's all about the half.

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Speaker 1: So it has nothing to do with what chip Kelly said.

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Speaker 1: Can we believe? Can we believe that it was a

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Speaker 1: cheap shot and that Chip Kelly is probably not being

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Speaker 1: entirely and here's the thing though, it was goals and

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Speaker 1: it was a cheap shot. And if you're listen this,

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Speaker 1: this offense has not been a mainstay in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. I mean, it is legal

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Speaker 1: to go hit a guy the quarterback in college off

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Speaker 1: of this, but you're if you're gonna put your quarterback

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Speaker 1: out there as a target on these plays, that's the

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Speaker 1: price you pay. You don't suddenly change the entire rule.

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Speaker 1: I I agree with West. I think it was a

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Speaker 1: cheap shot and I think it was legal, and Rrell

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Speaker 1: Suggs is exactly the guy that would go after somebody

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Speaker 1: with to bust the knees in as many years literally

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Speaker 1: the first I think it was like the third play

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Speaker 1: in the game. It was right between thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: like that's football, and now it's like now you're a defender,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to go after a quarterback, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean a quarterback out of the game. I think changed

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Speaker 1: the entire I think you go for it's just going

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Speaker 1: directly at the knees for a guy who has injured knees.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could. I think when they went after

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Speaker 1: Mariota on Sunday night, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: very specific strategy that the Rams had to go after him.

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Speaker 1: On one of the readoctive they went a pie at him,

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Speaker 1: which is which is normal. It was the fact that

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Speaker 1: he dove right at the knees that I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see the Texans play Ravens and Cushion go up to

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Speaker 1: subs and say I used to go over after quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: knees until it was for chicks going to Starbucks. We will.

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Speaker 1: We'll do a little more talking about Sam Bradford in

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Speaker 1: our next segment, which just starting right now, Winners and

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Speaker 1: Losers a week two of the preseason. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: around the horn a couple of times here. We'll start

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Speaker 1: with winners. Will will skew positive at first, but then

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Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just dig in and we'll start with

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Speaker 1: the great Chris Westling, he of the sky Blue NFL

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Speaker 1: Network polo shirt. It's almost Titans colors. Oh, okay, little

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Speaker 1: peak here. The Titans are a winner Titans fans. Last

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Speaker 1: year they looked like they would never get another quarterback again.

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Speaker 1: We're watching Charlie Whitehurst for most of the year. It's

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Speaker 1: they've got an enviable quarterback situation. Look at their young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta I think is the real deal. I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited watching him play. I remember Bill Walsh used to tell, well,

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Speaker 1: watch Montana's feet, they're beautiful. Mariota is beautiful for a footwork.

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Speaker 1: That thirty five yard pass on the bootleg that Craig

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Speaker 1: Stevens was it looked a little bit like some kind

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Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers Joe Montana cut up. It was a

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Speaker 1: very nice pass. I love what what they got going

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Speaker 1: on this play right here. He it's Stevens, just a

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Speaker 1: beautiful play. You know things are going well when Bishop

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Speaker 1: Sanky's running well. Everything we've heard about Mariota in the

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Speaker 1: practices all off season. The thing I like is that

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Speaker 1: you can see this all now coming to the four

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. Not like he's blowing you away, but

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Speaker 1: everything is very composed. He looks like a veteran. I

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Speaker 1: like him a lot from what we've seen in the

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Speaker 1: two games. And I think the number one when he's

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Speaker 1: when he's experienced failure, he's bounced back mentally too. And

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Speaker 1: they talked about the rolesots of technicals going on with

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Speaker 1: the headphones yesterday and it didn't frazzle him. But I

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Speaker 1: remember a year ago we were all freaking out over

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, and he's still encountered his difficulties as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: The Rams and the previous team. We're not game planning

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Speaker 1: for Mariota or anyone, so we still to see that.

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Speaker 1: But it's encouraging. Started you're a Titans fan, I agree,

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Speaker 1: you were nowhere a year ago. You've got to be

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Speaker 1: excited now. Absolutely, and enough though spending half the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: I watched that game last ning about like what a

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Speaker 1: great guy Mariota is and that he's going to be

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Speaker 1: like the guy that the whole city can build. But

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The local broadcasters on preseason are all

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Speaker 1: fluff coming the local broadcasting. One of my favorite parts

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Speaker 1: of this job is being able to watch the local

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Speaker 1: broadcasts and and like, there was a great one Washington

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Speaker 1: Redskins last week they had firstly at Clinton Port is

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Speaker 1: involved on the sideline, who's just like he makes Eric

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Speaker 1: Dickerson look like the most gifted sideline reporter ever, just

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Speaker 1: the most wooden man ever. I think he's made out

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Speaker 1: of wood. At this point, you have the whole team

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Speaker 1: going to hell, the Redskins, and there's a Twitter thing

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Speaker 1: of like Redskins fans like, go for it. Hell to

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, We're gonna be great this year. Defense looking

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Speaker 1: fears as like r G three gets wheeled away in

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Speaker 1: an ambulance, like you know, it's just funny stuff, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say. And Joe, by the way, sorry for the

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Speaker 1: side there, but local poadcast fun. Somebody still paying Tisman

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Speaker 1: to an own. Somebody's paying him. His name is Daniel Snyder.

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Speaker 1: So Marcus Mariotta looks very good obviously in this game.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only quarterback for the Titans that

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Speaker 1: caught Mark Sessler's eye. Zach Mettenberger got you, juice is flowing?

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Speaker 1: You did listen. I you know, I got into a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a reverie last night, and I sat

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Speaker 1: down and penned a letter to another other than Brown's

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Speaker 1: general manager, Ray Farmer, because it's time to do something

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Speaker 1: about Tennessee's two quarterbacks. Go get one of them. Dear

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Speaker 1: Mr Farmer, I'm writing you today because it is time

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Speaker 1: to make a bold statement, one that will change the

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Speaker 1: fortunes of the Cleveland Browns today and forever. What kind

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Speaker 1: of statement it is time to trade for a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future, and I have just the guy,

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Speaker 1: Zach Mettenburger, the freaky, big arms six ft five, live

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Speaker 1: wire down in Tennessee. Looks. Some don't like his game,

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Speaker 1: but I see growth. I see the makings of an

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Speaker 1: a f C North type arm ready to do battle.

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Speaker 1: You wanted Marcus Mariotta, you wanted Sam Bradford. Those ships

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Speaker 1: have sailed. The good ship Mettenburger, though, sits on the docks,

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Speaker 1: ready to travel. This Mr Farmer is your ron Wolf moment.

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Speaker 1: Pick up the phone, make the call, Do not hesitate,

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Speaker 1: change Cleveland Forever wild Mark. Look, I you know here.

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Speaker 1: It's been a strange place when I wrote it, but

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Speaker 1: I still mostly believe, I think. Can I offer one counterpoint?

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Speaker 1: First of all, all right, we're talking about this guy, right,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy letters about. We're looking at his

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Speaker 1: famous snapchat from a year ago. Here's a snapchat of

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Speaker 1: him looking like a monster. I'm a starting NFL CoV

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Speaker 1: get something. That guy, Well, he's teeth already and mad,

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Speaker 1: gone through a transformation. And I'm not sure that's the

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Speaker 1: most repper senitive photo of him in general, but I

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Speaker 1: like it. Why not? Can I offer a retort of

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Speaker 1: my own ideal size rocket arm kills it in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: regular season starts. He's a statue in the pocket, has

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Speaker 1: slow eyes. We've already seen the good ship Mettenburger. He's

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Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden. Oh, I don't think so. I think the

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Speaker 1: thing is number one. That's we can we can judge

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Speaker 1: him finally off of last season, the last season alone.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's a good project. Well. I thought

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Speaker 1: he was great last season. I thought I was leading

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Speaker 1: the great ship Mettenburger for for a rookie. I thought

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Speaker 1: he was right there one of the highest failed drive

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Speaker 1: percentages in NFL history, and you're calling him great. I

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Speaker 1: thought he showed a lot. I thought he showed more

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Speaker 1: than Derek Carter. I thought he was right there with

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. I really liked Mettenburger as a prospect that said,

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Speaker 1: you just said, let's make our ron Wolf moment. I

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Speaker 1: mean I also would say that you let's not fall

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Speaker 1: into that quarterback in one season, Brett Farb was run

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Speaker 1: out of town because he was a drunk. You know,

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Speaker 1: but do we see that kind of talent in Zach Mettenberger?

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Speaker 1: And do we do? You don't want to fall into

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Speaker 1: that thing where just like Cardinals fans dot Kevin Hobb

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Speaker 1: was going to save them. I love Meddenberger. I thought

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Speaker 1: I was a big fan that he could develop into

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback. And I heard people talking on Twitter

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Speaker 1: responding to your tweet. Some Bills fans like, how come

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Speaker 1: the Bills aren't getting him? You do put Medenburger around there,

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Speaker 1: they'd be, they'd be the favorites to win the right.

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Speaker 1: What are we done? Sit on the throne of bees

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Speaker 1: like you do. You don't have to worry about these things.

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Speaker 1: When quarterback, you got to swing to the fences. And

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Speaker 1: I think Medenburger I wanted them to trade for Glenn

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Speaker 1: and Sturger swinging for a single, not for the fences,

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Speaker 1: but go out and get young quarterbacks, keep getting new

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Speaker 1: guys to compete. I thought, you they have right now.

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Speaker 1: I thought you built it up. But I agree with

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Speaker 1: the thought. If they would, if they would take a

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Speaker 1: third round pick for Menbury, Mark Mark, Mark built it

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Speaker 1: up giving away third round picks for Brandon Cleveland forever.

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Speaker 1: That's building. And by the way I watched it in

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Speaker 1: real time there I was like looking into Mark's eyes

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Speaker 1: when he gets the wild eyes and he starts to

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Speaker 1: get fired up. It was calm, calm, calm, and then

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Speaker 1: something Mark Greg said set Marcos and the wild eyes.

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Speaker 1: Entitled fan who's not experienced loo using in fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference. You. You gotta take chances if you're

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Speaker 1: a bad Let'stenburger do something against said last week they

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Speaker 1: have no quarterback. More worried about you as a person.

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Speaker 1: You know you have, you know, a lovely wife and

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Speaker 1: two kids. You need to modulate some of this brown'sans

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Speaker 1: up and down. When they were losing that game, you

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Speaker 1: said they were the worst team ever than they're the

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Speaker 1: best team ever. Now one guy is gonna say it.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you don't rather just lived in ease

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Speaker 1: for two decades. He doesn't understand the roller coaster of it.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Johnny Manziel's next five years than Zach Mettenberg.

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Speaker 1: I agree, roll the dice of Menzie'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You would by trading for Zach Mettenberger, you would essentially

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Speaker 1: be cutting a chord on Johnny Manziel on some level.

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Speaker 1: And are you prepared to do that. I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: that at all. Bringing another quarterback to compete. J McCown

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Speaker 1: over Josh McCown is a one year patch. They should

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Speaker 1: have gone and got a younger guy like Mike Glennon

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Speaker 1: over Josh McCown to begin with. That's just my feelings.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's try, let's try to move forward. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do our best. Mark very good letter. Now give

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Speaker 1: us another win or something that associated with the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I'd assume another winner from yesterday. Look, I gotta go

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Speaker 1: Jared Hayne because I think what we don't like about

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Speaker 1: the preseason is all this stuff Jordy Nelson going down,

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Speaker 1: Palency going down. But what's great about the preseason is

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Speaker 1: someone like Jared Hayne, where you've had months to prepare

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Speaker 1: and practice, you get your first game footage and you're

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Speaker 1: actually incredibly fun to watch in the open space. Can

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Speaker 1: you just again, for nine percent of our listeners and viewers,

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Speaker 1: explain who the hell Jared Hayne is. I think most

636
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Speaker 1: people know who he is if you've been following any

637
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: attention to football for the last two weeks. He's an

638
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Australian rugby league star who's come over to America. Is

639
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: playing player in the world right and he's playing for

640
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: the Niners. He makes a catch like that in a

641
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: pun return. He's I think he's fascinating to watch when

642
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: he's running around an open space. Played the Jared Hayne

643
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Jared Hayne is the Jared Hayne of

644
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: the NFL. What kind of question is wat I guess

645
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: he is? He is shown has a role as a returner.

646
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: He has returned at least five punts for an average

647
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: of more than twenty yards. He's catching punts over his shoulder.

648
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Like Willie Mays, you can make a team off of

649
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: special teams, and I think that's what he's done. He's

650
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: doing that well because that's what you do in rugby.

651
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: You have to make catches with people running at you.

652
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: You don't get flagged for hitting someone while they're making

653
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: a catch. So this is right up his alley and

654
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: his skill set. He's shown a penchant for making that

655
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: gun or miss every time. He could be a great

656
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: punt return. I just think calm down on him being

657
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: a running back. He did he four of what it's worth.

658
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: He did a fifty four yards. He also got demoted

659
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: from the second running back through the rotation to the

660
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: third running back through the rotation and dated all against

661
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: third and fourth. If you get him into space, he's

662
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna make plays, right, but you have to get him

663
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: in that he's going to become their second string. He

664
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: did have second sting straps in the first game, but

665
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that matters. I think you make these guys,

666
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: make these teams off of special teams, and if you're

667
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: a guy who can who can't do that, then you're out.

668
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: But this guy shows I don't see how he wouldn't

669
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: make the team. And maybe Reggie Bush was ahead of

670
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: everybody on this, because I think Reggie said months ago

671
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: that he had no doubts that Haynes was going to

672
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: make this team, and he he seems to me like

673
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: unless something bad happens next week or an injury, he

674
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: seems like he should get a job of this and

675
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: you're not sneaking him onto your practice squad, which is

676
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: an amazing thing. You know, people always say kind of

677
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: with the NFL, and we've seen other you know, athletes

678
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: from other sports try the NFL out It's like, you can't.

679
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: You can't just pick up football like that, And essentially

680
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: he just picked up football a few months, okay, But

681
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: it shows an unbelievable athlete. Okay, but all the fans

682
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: are thinking this guy just picked up football and he's

683
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: already a star. Jim tom Sewul was saying he might

684
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: make the team. What's great about this story is he's

685
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: just picking up football. He doesn't know how he's doing,

686
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: and he's still doing pretty well. But he's still like

687
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like the fiftie guy on a fifty

688
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: three man roster. I want to see Jared Hand be

689
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the preseason winner four straight weeks on this podcast. Way there,

690
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on my pick for the winner,

691
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: um Sam Bradford in the entire Eagles offense. I'm gonna

692
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: say because first we talked about Bradford as bad as

693
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: it was a Terrell Suggs went low at him and

694
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: almost it could have heard him again. It was good

695
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: in a way that to see Bradford take these hits

696
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: and he got hit again in the game, dust himself off,

697
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: show that he can continue to play and not have

698
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: any serious injury setbacks. That's good. He looks good on

699
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: the field. The orchestrated at twelve play eighty four yard

700
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: touchdown drive and this came in a forty to seventeen

701
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: win over the Ravens, a game in which, um, you know,

702
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: everything looked good, from from Bradford to their running game

703
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: of DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews. People have been raving

704
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: about Jordan Matthews all all summer, and so you put

705
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: it all together. Chip Kelly seems to be onto something

706
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 1: here and their offense so far, so so far, so

707
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: great for the Eagles office. Tip Kelly's you've got to

708
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: take a lot of Eagles in your preseason fantasy league.

709
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Every year he racks up like thirty forty points a

710
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: game in the preseason because no one knows what to

711
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: do with him, but that nothing. It's been three years

712
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: now and every time you watch an Eagles game you're thinking, God,

713
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I'd love to play quarterback in this offense. Everything is

714
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: a clear, defined read and they're always wide open. I

715
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: love I love how Matthews looked. I like how Darren

716
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Sprowls looks. This year's listening to by the way that

717
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: we're bagging on local announcers, Mike mack has been great

718
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: on these Eagles games. Ryan Manthews, I agree, Mark, he's

719
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for this offense. I think he can

720
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: run way that is that is the best backfield in

721
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: the league by by so much. It's outrageous that you

722
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: have sprawls better than the ramps. It's not as fun

723
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: as there. We could save this for the broadcasting podcast

724
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: coming up a little later in the year. But Mike

725
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Myak has always done a good job. He did a

726
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: good job on Thursday Night, but he's not who we're

727
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: talking about when we're talking about local. I just I'm saying,

728
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: I've watched these two Eagles games front to back, and

729
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from He's given some good insight. Scoops, Greg,

730
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: You're winner. I'm gonna go with mark Ingram. You know,

731
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: West was saying, who's the mark Ingram of this year?

732
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's mark Ingram because he's showing a different side

733
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: of him with c J. Spiller out, your boy, West,

734
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: maybe Sean Paine's gonna raize you don't really need c J. Spiller.

735
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: You got mark Ingram catching wheel routes side of the backfield.

736
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: He's showing he's a really good receiver right now. And

737
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: that's a big change for Ingram. He always said he

738
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: could do it, but we've seen it. Kyrie Robinson also

739
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: looked good. The offensive line. I think they've changed what

740
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: they are and I think Ingram catching balls out of

741
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the backfield. Well note Mark Ingram was his boy last year. Yeah,

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: he was flying a flag all year saying you don't

743
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: need Spiller. He's like a third wheel. You looking good

744
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: just Ingram's in general, I've looked good Melvin Ingram and

745
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: San Diego is also playing well, big, big winner is

746
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: true Breeze if that's what's going to happen, because they

747
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: did try to transform this offense, make it more cowboys

748
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: like with you know what happened last year and if

749
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: you're Breeze, it's about time for that to happen. Mark,

750
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: you're a winner. Yes, I do? You know you're running back?

751
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Fixation a little straight? Well, I think running backs are

752
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: one of the more fun position groups to watch in

753
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: preseason games, especially some guys later on. I like Zack

754
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Zenter in Detroit. I know Dan is completely against this pick.

755
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: He was shredding me on Twitter for it three career

756
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: campaigns in college, in high school too. Well, this is

757
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: another guy. Here's what I like about him because you

758
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: know he was a stretch to make the roster and

759
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: way that Jim Caldwell has talked about him. He said,

760
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: this guy is fun to watch. He runs with purpose,

761
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: he runs with decisiveness. This is another dude that you're

762
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: not sneaking through on the waiver wire. Is gonna get

763
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: picked up vision patients and burst. Those things jumped out

764
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: to me when I watched him in the first preseason game. Again, though,

765
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: he's got to make the roster. He's gotta he's gotta

766
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: be a special teamer in order to make the combination

767
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: for the next generation in Detroit? Why not two winners,

768
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Mark Well special teams. Guys. Look, we're picking some high

769
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: concepts starting quarterbacks. I'm going off some dudes very deep

770
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: knowledge of the game. Chris Leslie another winner two thousand

771
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: thirteen Denver Broncos, Peyton Manning. The records are safe. I

772
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: thought the Packers, the Colts, the Steelers would be taking

773
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: a full frontal assault at that record all year. But

774
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: the Packers, whose Jordy Nelson Colts offensive line looks like

775
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: it could be iffy again. Steelers lose Marcus Pouncy. All

776
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: these teams have little bit of hiccups. Now you have

777
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: to be perfect in order to records that year Julius

778
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Thomas comes aboard as a mismatch. They still have Welker

779
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: playing at a high level. They've got four pick your

780
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: poison weapons there. These teams don't have that right now.

781
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Do you think Peyton, Manny and Adam Gates are gonna

782
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: be like the Mercury Morris of this already get together

783
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: in twenty years every January and pop champagne and they

784
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: didn't be that red this yet. That that's gonna happen,

785
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: because that record is gonna fall within the next few years.

786
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give another winner. How about Greg Olsen

787
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: Panthers tight end, No Calvin Benjamin, Devin's budgets. That Devin

788
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: budgets heard right now? Cam Newton doesn't know what he's

789
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: doing right now. Four of ten for forty two yards

790
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: in a in a pick in their most recent preseason game.

791
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: And I thought, I looked at Greg Olsen's targets. Of

792
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: course he's um, you know, was had his best season

793
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: last Year's last four years eighty nine, one oh four,

794
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: one eleven, a hundred and twenty three targets last year

795
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: with Benjamin on the field. Martel Spender, who led the

796
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: NFL tight ends in receptions with nine last year, I

797
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: had a hundred and twenty eight. I think we're dealing

798
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: with a hundred and thirty plus targets for Greg Olsen

799
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: and you're dealing with the guy who's not a superstar

800
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: stud but a very steady guy. He could flirt with

801
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: hundred catches in this offense. He's also on the Billy's

802
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: Optic All Stars along with Brian Cushy. Is you know

803
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: it's a weird receiver group when someone named Mike Brown,

804
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: uh to, Marry Bird and Scott Simonson were three of

805
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: the leading receivers in their last free season games. They're

806
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: all real people. Wasn't Olsen just slapped down on our

807
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: fantasy podcast? Is an over? Yeah, I'm not buying this one.

808
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: That's fine. Listen, everyone's title to opinions. You know we

809
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: we we re earned him as a listener. You know

810
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: my is that Cessler was onto something with his Matt

811
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Jones love. He has a lot of fun to watch

812
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: the Redskins running back. He is one of my big

813
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: breakout stars of the preseason. Watching him, he looks like

814
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: a young, healthy Jonathan Stewart, a little taller than Jonathan Stewart,

815
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: but for his size, his explosiveness and his cuts is

816
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: really something in NFL. Alfred Morris, you've gotta think he's

817
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: gonna lose half his carries. Wait, just a week ago

818
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: you were saying that Alfred Morris was a good fantasy play.

819
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I've changed my mind. That's what you do. Look looks

820
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: really it's funny. Just the explosiveness in his cuts is

821
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: just you can't. I don't care if it's preseason or not.

822
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: That's real. He um and he's drawn comparisons to Marshawn Lynch.

823
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: He's actually bigger than that a little bit, but he's

824
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: got some of that explosiveness. Doesn't look as a total compliment.

825
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: That's a top five talented player. When he was coming out,

826
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: reminds me if you don't like Greg Alson, I don't

827
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: like Matt Jones. All right, let's do some loses. Let's

828
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: skew negative. Mark Cecil will start with you. Well, you

829
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: know the calls in this planning for the show begins

830
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. It is my off time. And I

831
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: don't know why I picked Darren McFadden, but I said

832
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: it is my loser, and I was telling Weston greg

833
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Or Dan I don't quite remember what my what my

834
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: thinking was, but I'll tell you what I don't because

835
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't play specialty. I said that email out while

836
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: you were still on the clock because I knew, oh

837
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: this way, Mark, and you know, think about it while

838
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: I was busy handling the game with seventy two injuries

839
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: being told that's not a big job. Well, Darren McFadden

840
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: started the game and got no yards. I was gonna

841
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: sell it, hold on pre carries four yards, two straight,

842
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: three and ounce. But listen, it's not about yesterday's preseason game.

843
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I have been down on the Darren McFadden hype train

844
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: all year. I'm riding that train right off the cliff potentially.

845
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: If he's good, if he's not, all be happy. West

846
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: is the WESTLD. On a blazing comment from outer space

847
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: known as Navorro, Bowman blew up Therenfadden last night. He

848
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: would have blown up Joseph Randall to the Cowboys were

849
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: there without a couple of starters on the offensive line.

850
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: And what Bowman is one of the big winners. Boman

851
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: looks fantastic. He's flying all over the field. I don't

852
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: think that was on McFadden, and to me, he started

853
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: over random, but again, not about the game so much.

854
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I just am not on this McFadden thing. I think

855
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fizzle out scenario. I don't think

856
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: anybody's on the McFadden thing. I don't know if you

857
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: guys watched the Cardinals game at all, but if you had,

858
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: you could have seen Chris Johnson's career just going up

859
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: in flames. It's over. First of all, I got injured,

860
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna practice for a weekend. Two I

861
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: didn't know. We didn't know that at the time. But

862
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: when you watched David Johnson carrying the ball for the

863
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals and catching the ball for the Cardinals, it wasn't perfect.

864
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: He likes to bounce it outside. But you say, what

865
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: game were you watching? Because I saw a slow C. J. Spiller. No,

866
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I saw every run to the outside and refused to

867
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: go between the tack He also broke a ton of tackles,

868
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: which Chris Johnson is not gonna do. He made a

869
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: ton of big players and I don't think Ris Johnson

870
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: is gonna do. And he was good in the passing game,

871
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: which Chris Johnson is definitely not gonna do. He basically

872
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: was a superior version of what Chris Johnson could be.

873
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: And I was watching the game, I was getting excited

874
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer. You've got J. J. Nelson now catching

875
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: passes with the first team five yards down the field.

876
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Might be there a little you know. Did say David

877
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: Johnson that he liked what he did after he stopped

878
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: got it on the dance studio? Yes? Well, yeah, because

879
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: he danced. He wanted to break everything outside. I didn't

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: like it. I didn't like what I saw. I think

881
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I felt the same way for the first couple of carries.

882
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: But then he was breaking off, you know, running through people,

883
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: and that's something that Chris Johnson is definitely not gonna be.

884
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: The point is he's not gonna make the team. Can't

885
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: make the club from the Chris Johnson is gonna make

886
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: the team. Now. I don't think. I don't I don't

887
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: think can't make the team from the high workshop. I'll

888
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: throw another loser out there. The Giants, specifically their defense,

889
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: but really can do the whole team with this. They're hurt,

890
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: They're injured like crazy right now. They had seven defensive

891
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: backs ruled out before their most recent preseason game, lost

892
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: three more linebrackers and two safeties including John Beeson and

893
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: they're starting safety Bennett Jackson. Both guys had nice brains.

894
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: They're already. Uh. They also lost a safe another safety,

895
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Justin Curry with a fractured right ankle. Um. You know,

896
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: this is a team that we think is gonna score

897
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: a lot of points. They might have to to win.

898
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: They might be the thirty five to thirty one All

899
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Stars if they if they go to the playoffs and

900
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: not for nothing. And I will not put too much

901
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: into this, but JPP has nine fingers now still not

902
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: with the team. Also, Uh, your boy west Odell Beckham

903
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Uh targeted five times no catches yesterday four or four

904
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: teen for forty six yards. So the offense has a

905
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: lot of work to do still. Obviously the defenses and

906
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: champels because the injuries. This team is not in a

907
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: great place right now. This was a team that in March,

908
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: if you went and looked at their depth chart on

909
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: our lids, no safeties, it wasn't a single safe right

910
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: they had. It's not like there were Hey, you know,

911
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: there are a couple of guys that know the system,

912
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: that have been here that are ready to go plug

913
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: in they've got their starting with from scratch. Bennet Jackson's

914
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: out for the year now it's been confirmed, and uh,

915
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: they're starting defensive end for Jason Pierre Paul right now.

916
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: His name is Carrie Win, an undrafted rookie. That's who's

917
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: you're placing Jason Pierre Paul, Za Zenter Blue Whecking Crew, Greg,

918
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: give us another loser. Who's my second loser? Something to

919
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: do with Tom Brady? Oh, of course it's anyone hanging around.

920
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Peyton Manny in this too, but anyone

921
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: hanging around Tom Brady this week, you know it's not

922
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: going to be an agreeable guy. He's had five series,

923
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: five straight three and ounce he's throwing passes the guys

924
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of. Their offensive line isn't protecting him.

925
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: And then he's got to listen to everyone talking, Oh,

926
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Oh, Jimmy Grappol, who's better for thirty three?

927
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Who's better looking Garoppolo? Brady? And Brady's like, I can't

928
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: believe you're even talking about that. His first two passes

929
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: the other night, This is what the first team, Tom Brady?

930
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: Where did Jimmy Mundine and Dion Lewis Jimmy Meanwhile, he's

931
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Mundine, back up, backups, tight end. I don't know.

932
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't feel like Tom Brady is panicking. I think

933
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: he's pretty annoyed right now. If you're Tom Brady, you're

934
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: pretty competitive, and it's been a disaster, and you're going

935
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: to New York every other day, go talk to judges.

936
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: You don't know if you're gonna be suspended. It's a

937
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: bad time. It's better looking than Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't

938
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm done with that conversation. Yeah, another loser West Wahington

939
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Redskins fans or their quarterbacks or anybody associated with this

940
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: dysfunctional organization. You've got the broadcasting team. What are they

941
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna do with r G three? Put him back behind

942
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line. It's exactly what they're gonna do. Jake

943
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Gruden said it, Yes today, we absolutely need the work.

944
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Whether he takes one shot or ten shots. That sounds

945
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: like a coach trying to get his quarterback injured. Marcus

946
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: Mariota takes one hit yesterday, the Titans pull him out

947
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: of the game because they're worried. They know he's their

948
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: franchise the Redskins aren't acting well. Jake Gruden is not

949
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: acting like r G three is his starting quarterback. He's

950
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: acting like it's a guy he wants to get out

951
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: of the way so he can start someone else. I

952
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: think he's been told from various people up above that

953
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: he's your starting quarterback, but from a coaching angle, we've

954
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: never really he knows how to get rid of that problem.

955
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Just get him hurt. It's crazy in there. That's how

956
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: you get rid of r G three. This, this plot

957
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: line has not changed. In August, which is supposed to

958
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: be happy time, Jason Reid, who's a columnist uh for

959
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: the Redskins, tweeted out that people inside the building know

960
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: that they're cooked and have no chance with r G three.

961
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: He tweeted that over the week, and so it's all

962
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: starting again and we haven't even get rid of that problem.

963
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: Have him take ten shots in a preseason game. Jake

964
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Gruden just said he's going to do it again. That's

965
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: a bold statement that you're saying that. That's like Bud

966
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Kilmer of Varsity Blues stuff. That's straight evil. That's a

967
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: that you know, that's your sent it at Jagruen, right, there,

968
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: I got a loser. How about any fantasy nerd that

969
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: over zealously held their draft like in a week and

970
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: a half ago, how about hold onto your seat, give

971
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: it some time, because now you went and drafted Jordy Nelson,

972
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: you went and drafted anyone else that got hurt. You

973
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: don't do your draft till the very end. You don't

974
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: go with your first round pick and then find out

975
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: that he's not going to play all season. Ridiculous, It's fair.

976
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: I will throw one thing out there. A lot of

977
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: times what happens. It's not in my league since I

978
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: moved from the East coast. But a lot of times

979
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: people try to slot a date where they can all

980
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: be together, and sometimes it's very hard to get it

981
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the month, so they end up

982
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: settling the middle. How about this togetherness less important than

983
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: drafting equality team the mid season together, this party where

984
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: you can celebrate the fact they play a sport vicarlessly.

985
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: They have these crazy things online where you can actually

986
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: draft the teams that way, that's true. You could even

987
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: be in different places and you know, by the way

988
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: to go back to draft lost pies from last Friday.

989
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Those group gatherings are just like a way for you

990
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: to end up getting drunk, and somebody that does, some teetotaler,

991
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: is going to take advantage of you. So just do

992
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: your online draft and hold it early September this year

993
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: or at the very end of August at the very least.

994
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Mark. Speaking of injuries, football agnostics

995
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: like me are big losers because all we can look

996
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: forward to is watching the most exciting teams and now

997
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: the Packers. Instead of watching Jordy Nelson, who's one of

998
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: the most fun players in the league for me to watch,

999
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm watching Jeff Janis or Hie My Gum or or whatever.

1000
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Instead of watching Calvin Benjamin. I'm watching snaps of Corey

1001
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Brown now instead of Calvin Benjamin. Football agnostics, anybody who

1002
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: wants to watch game pass just for gets in higgles.

1003
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna not gonna be as much fun.

1004
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: You didn't even mention Frank Alexander is out for the

1005
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: season with the torn achilles for the Panthers. I know

1006
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: you're a big Alexander. I really want to be watchings. No,

1007
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I want to watch Cony Eale and uh, finally I'll

1008
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: throw it out the fans lose because you know, Blair

1009
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Walsh became the third guy, three third kicker to miss

1010
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: a p A T in two games. And I'll tell

1011
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: you what, how exciting is this? We as football fans?

1012
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'll say, we as the NFL use

1013
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: the we here screwed the pooch here because we're just

1014
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: gonna miss a bunch of missed extra points. No, I know,

1015
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: people are going for two right now in the preseason.

1016
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen because you pulled the half measure,

1017
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: you didn't move into two point conversion. So we're just

1018
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of bums like Blair Walsh missing kicks.

1019
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: But why isn't that the point of the rules that

1020
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: it's not automatic, So then missing the kicks isn't proof

1021
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: that the rule is not working. It's proof that the

1022
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: rule is working. Yeah, but what at what cost? Greg?

1023
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: At what cost? Point? Here's the here's the cost. How

1024
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: about why not have a play that is meaningful and

1025
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: has some sort of drama or get rid of the play.

1026
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: So I think it's better than it was. I don't

1027
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: think it's good. I think they should make it terrible

1028
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: for p A T specialists open to get into Canton. Right,

1029
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: it's just another way for kickers to get fired. And

1030
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: if Marks allowed to talk about special teams guys in

1031
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: this segment, I will talk about Blair Walts a little more.

1032
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I just signed a four year extension, like a couple

1033
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: of months ago. He missed three field goals and an

1034
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: extra point this weekend, leading to his coach saying he

1035
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: has to kick better than he did tonight. Mike Zimmer

1036
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: said he's got to make those kicks probably cost us

1037
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: ten points tonight. He might be the first guy to

1038
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: get a four year extension and then get canned. It

1039
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: sounds like maxon Crosby a few years ago. Yeah, my father,

1040
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: he once told me when I was a little bit,

1041
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: never trust a guy named Blair. That's actually great advice.

1042
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: Blairs are usually evil, all right, that's it policy still Blairs. Yeah.

1043
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: We will be back, ye, not that evil. We will

1044
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday with another show. The whole team

1045
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: will be with this hopefully, you guys, Mark and Chris

1046
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: will be wearing matching shirts again. I'm gonna be wearing

1047
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: that one. You look very good. You look like tag

1048
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: team Champions of the World or something. All the time.

1049
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: This is wow, and that didn't even helpless left hanging

1050
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: for five seconds in a blue faith. Let's go, Let's

1051
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: get out of here. This is Dan Hansis signing off

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Speaker 1: for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, TV, the

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Speaker 1: Iris from the haircuts. Only back there, Everyone find the

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Speaker 1: glass until Wednesday. Dear Mr Farmer, I'm writing you today

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Speaker 1: because it is time to make a bold statement, one

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Speaker 1: that will change the fortunes of the Cleveland Browns today

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Speaker 1: and forever. What kind of statement? It is time to

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Speaker 1: trade for a quarterback, your quarterback of the future, and

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Speaker 1: I have just the guy, Zach Mettenburger, the freaky big

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Speaker 1: arms six at five live wire down in Tennessee. Look.

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Speaker 1: Some don't like his game, but I see growth. I

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Speaker 1: see the makings of an a f C North type

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Speaker 1: arm ready to do battle. You wanted Marcus Mariotta, you

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Speaker 1: wanted Sam Bradford. Those ships have sailed. The good ship Mettenburger, though,

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Speaker 1: sits on the docks, ready to travel. This Mr Farmer

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Speaker 1: is your Ron Wolf moment. Pick up the phone, make

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Speaker 1: the call, Do not hesitate, change Cleveland forever. H