WEBVTT - Where is Luke Danes? Part 2

0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott

0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All Right, everybody, We've

0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.640
<v Speaker 1>got a very special guest this week. Her name is

0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Carla McClusky. She was the assistant director and uniproduction manager

0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on The Gilmore Girls. And she was born in Madison, Wisconsin,

0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>um and she was assistant director for twenty seven episodes,

0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and she was uniproduction manager from two thousand five two

0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand six. She gained an immense amount of experience working

0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.320
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood and film and television. She's the mother to

0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Brighton and Caitlin, a writer, a stroke survivor. She released

0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a book Grandma Told Me So, Lessons in Life and

0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Love in two thousand seven. She's also well known for

0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.600
<v Speaker 1>her assistant directing in the closer Pretty Handsome, Ally mcbeel,

0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Babylon five, If These Walls Could Talk, Color of Night,

0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Jurassic Park, and much more. Ladies and gentlemen, Carla McCluskey, Carla,

0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.759
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Episodes? Got to that I solemnly swear,

0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and shortly thereafter had a stroke during hiatus, so I

0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.959
<v Speaker 1>was sidelined for a while. Oh my goodness, you directed

0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a Gilmour episode. Yeah, it was mainly Um Alexis and

0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean and it was it was Rory and Harris

0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of episode fencing. Okay, well, now that you mentioned it,

0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it is coming back to me a little bit that

0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you did that. You did direct an episode. How interesting? Wow? Um,

0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.120
<v Speaker 1>so tell us about, um, what is it to be

0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.160
<v Speaker 1>an assistant director? What a job? What kind of jobs

0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.560
<v Speaker 1>did you have on set? What did you have to do?

0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:59.000
<v Speaker 1>It's probably the hardest job if if you everyone admits

0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that just your responsible for everything. I mean wardrobe responsible

0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.920
<v Speaker 1>for wardrobe, and sound is responsible for sound, and the

0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.280
<v Speaker 1>assistant director is responsible for everything. And so you're trying

0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to coordinate everything. You schedule the show, you decide what

0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.440
<v Speaker 1>shot when. You have to have a time frame down

0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.760
<v Speaker 1>so people know, like, you know, how long this is

0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna take, how long that's gonna take. And um, you

0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.920
<v Speaker 1>know it's very different on TV. Director doesn't have as

0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.000
<v Speaker 1>much power as on a feature. Well on Gilmer Girls,

0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it's Amy we all know that everything. But yeah, you're

0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just you know, you're the one bix. You know, you

0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.280
<v Speaker 1>mainly just here you go rolling God, you know, but

0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.919
<v Speaker 1>but there's so much more and you know, as you

0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:44.960
<v Speaker 1>usually like the first one there and the last one

0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to leave. That's more in the second category. But as

0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.240
<v Speaker 1>a first assistant you just have more responsibilities. So what

0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>did you think of each character's trajectory on the show? Who?

0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Who Are? Who are you? Who are? Who? Did you

0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:06.080
<v Speaker 1>particularly notice change? Uh? In terms of you guys, I

0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.480
<v Speaker 1>did the first show, so I saw, you know, the

0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.200
<v Speaker 1>younger cast Alexis and was Dean, you know, I mean,

0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm Jared. I mean the young people I just saw

0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.600
<v Speaker 1>completely mature as not just actors but as people, you know,

0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.720
<v Speaker 1>So that was quite amazing. And I know in the

0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:30.040
<v Speaker 1>whole Dean just met Wait, what's this really Logan thing?

0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.399
<v Speaker 1>There's always you know, Dean isn't always the most popular,

0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200
<v Speaker 1>but I just rewatched an episode they asked me about

0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was he was just charming. I mean,

0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it was so wonderful to start with everybody when you

0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>start with the show. First of all, you guys are

0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:46.720
<v Speaker 1>with me, you know, when he brings someone new in,

0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the actors and casts is like, yeah, what's this?

0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.600
<v Speaker 1>But I always knew that you knew me and I

0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.160
<v Speaker 1>knew you, and if I said something, you know, we

0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.800
<v Speaker 1>had a wonderful before and it was great to do that.

0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So um, I mean you and of course Lauren. I mean,

0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so many are just such professionals right away. So you know,

0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't um as as actors, you know, didn't see

0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.599
<v Speaker 1>a huge change because you're always good, um and as people,

0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you're mature adults, so there wasn't such a change then either.

0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure if that's the question that you're

0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.680
<v Speaker 1>asking or if the whole arc of the character or

0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:33.120
<v Speaker 1>is that Oh that's fine, Oh that's great. Um um.

0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So listen, we had pretty intense discussions in our last

0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.360
<v Speaker 1>episode about all the relationships, especially Luke and Laurelies. I mean,

0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:46.400
<v Speaker 1>did you see the connection between those two characters right away?

0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you notice it? Yes, I definitely did. I mean

0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a chemistry there. You know, there's definitely chemistry. And

0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it was just you know, rewatching, you know, because I

0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't really watched this. It's sort of a assing because

0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I do all the fan festivals and the fans can

0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.760
<v Speaker 1>recite every script by heart, you know, it's like amazing.

0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And they asked me a question about something and I'm like,

0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is twenty years ago or whatever, and

0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like and I haven't I don't rewatch

0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.040
<v Speaker 1>them really and rewatching I'm going to rewatch them. I mean,

0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched one last night and I'm like, this is

0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:26.040
<v Speaker 1>so good. I mean everything about it was so good

0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and I just loved it and I can see why

0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.000
<v Speaker 1>people love it so much, and I mean, I always

0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.080
<v Speaker 1>love this show. I came in and they showed, you know,

0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and asked and I said, well, could I see this show?

0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And they had the pilot episode and I'm like, oh,

0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this is good. And every single time, no matter when

0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I got the script, I'm going to be walking on

0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the zet or something. It was great and the scripts

0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.480
<v Speaker 1>were always and that does not happen a lot. When

0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you're proud of something that you're doing, I'll work those

0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.240
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hours or twenty hours or whatever because it's it's

0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's wonderful. I mean, it's just it's so good, and

0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly I can see why it's the huge hit

0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.839
<v Speaker 1>that it is now. And from the beginning, it's it's

0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.840
<v Speaker 1>spoiled me. That show spoiled me because I went on

0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.160
<v Speaker 1>to do other shows and it just you know, they

0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.520
<v Speaker 1>were good and great writing staffs and all that. But

0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was different, you know, it was different.

0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It was I'll be honest about it. I've done a

0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of shows and everything, and this one was top notch,

0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and and some other ones were good, but you know,

0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just not even nearly close anyway, Thank god, it

0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was such a positive experience. So let me ask you this.

0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Luke should have spoken up earlier

0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to Laurela professing his love to her? In your opinion? No,

0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't, And didn't you know what from the beginning?

0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. No, I think it means that whole storyline.

0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it was wonderful. I mean, I the whole

0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.839
<v Speaker 1>series would have been condensed much more quickly. I think

0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it was important to go through all the

0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.359
<v Speaker 1>different things and have her have other relationship ships and

0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.800
<v Speaker 1>have this friendship. After all, what does a good relationship

0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.159
<v Speaker 1>what is it based on? It's based on a friendship.

0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm best friends with my husband of forty

0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.440
<v Speaker 1>five years. You know, it's just like and we're still

0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.040
<v Speaker 1>mad in love. So I think that's a real good start,

0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's the basis. And I don't you know, I

0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think it would have been I liked how it

0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:24.320
<v Speaker 1>was done right. What do you think of Max, Max Medina?

0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be testing me as some of this

0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I liked. I like the actor. Oh no, without question,

0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:38.000
<v Speaker 1>without a great No, Max is fine. I'm not remembering

0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.160
<v Speaker 1>every story, you know it was. I can't think of

0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.040
<v Speaker 1>someone I went, w Where's why they go there? You

0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.840
<v Speaker 1>know that just wasn't aiming for one thing? You know,

0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it's there was you know, it played the way it

0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was most flaying. How about Rory and Dean? What do

0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you think of that whole arc? Lived Rien, Jess Ollive, Rorrien, Max,

0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Just love y'all. That was great. It was just so sweet.

0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are the sweet years. It was so

0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.520
<v Speaker 1>so so nice, and they've all gone on to such success.

0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just fabulous to see, you know, great

0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.040
<v Speaker 1>launching pad for those guys, you know, and girls. Um

0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.880
<v Speaker 1>what about Emily and Laurela? What about that dynamic? What

0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.240
<v Speaker 1>do you remember about that? It's fabulous? I mean to

0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.440
<v Speaker 1>gros too. I mean there's just so great and such

0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.719
<v Speaker 1>lovely people. And the episode that I did watch that

0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they've mentioned to me, the people that are doing this, um,

0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a lot about their relationship and to

0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.080
<v Speaker 1>see that it was Rory's dance. I don't know what,

0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.720
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, that's what I was asked to watch. So

0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I did watch that and to see, you know this

0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there held this constantly conflict, conflict, but then to actually

0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:53.240
<v Speaker 1>see in that particular episode, the love, the love that

0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.360
<v Speaker 1>when she when Laurelae sleeping and then Emily like it

0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.840
<v Speaker 1>puts her hair back, see that she's seeing her as

0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.360
<v Speaker 1>this the little girl that she even says thank you mommy,

0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you mommy, because she was heavily that's rue. And

0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and of course, I mean in any family and most families,

0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and know in my family there was a lot of

0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.720
<v Speaker 1>discord and very different. They were very different and so

0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.840
<v Speaker 1>um you know, you get it. It is. It is

0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.600
<v Speaker 1>rather amazing that Emily thinks that she can walk into

0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Laurelized house and give her what for and give her

0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that level of disrespect. I mean, it just is amazing.

0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And I was so glad that she kicked her out

0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of her house, like, get out of my house. You

0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.839
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is a life, It's not good enough

0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:44.280
<v Speaker 1>for you. Leave. That's so true. That's not an exaggeration.

0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:49.200
<v Speaker 1>There are mothers and hopefully my girls will say I'm

0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not like Fai, But there are mothers like that. I mean,

0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they're like evil. Like some of the stories

0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I hear, I'm like, oh my goodness. You know, it's

0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like what one person said, they brought there, they were strange,

0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and they bought their young daughter to finally meet this

0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.080
<v Speaker 1>wicked mother, and mother says she's so pretty, she must

0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.240
<v Speaker 1>take after her father. I mean, it's just like this classic,

0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.080
<v Speaker 1>even worse than Emily Sin. What a what a what

0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a complicated character? And what a what a complicated relationship?

0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That is my god. It's like they just hate each other.

0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.960
<v Speaker 1>They just absolutely hate each other, but they need each other.

0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.360
<v Speaker 1>They underleath that they really don't. They still have that,

0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, there is this love connection even with the hate,

0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:41.040
<v Speaker 1>tred or the complete both sides. You know. Let me

0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.439
<v Speaker 1>ask you this, how important did you think that characters

0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like Suki, Michelle Lane, Miss Patty Kirk are to the Yeah?

0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I think they were just so important each one. And

0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually I've written two books, and my first book

0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.880
<v Speaker 1>has a lot about memories come from stars hollow. Basically,

0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that's right, c upload I Wisconsin, he said Madison. But

0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.559
<v Speaker 1>it's a little town outside of medicine. And I had

0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the craziest characters and you know, writing about all of

0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the drudy at the bakery, but I mean that's so important.

0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Each one of those characters was so well defined and

0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:24.600
<v Speaker 1>unique and wonderful. You just love them. They're so great

0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and to and to be um, oh my gosh and

0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.160
<v Speaker 1>blaking that his name uh was right there? Who played

0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different characters, so it was the crazy guy,

0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like the cable guy, and he was I mean, he

0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>played a variety of those characters. But I mean they're

0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:50.080
<v Speaker 1>just such such amazing, you know, I I think they're

0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.160
<v Speaker 1>so wonderfully. I mean, that's the whole secret to having

0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a great show, as you have all these characters that

0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.520
<v Speaker 1>are so come fleet and unique, and you you know,

0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not like now, so who would be I mean,

0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know what really hit hit me

0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.080
<v Speaker 1>last night watching the episode was what a scene stealer

0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that Melissa McCarthy is. When she comes on screen, it's

0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like you can't watch anybody else. It's just h I mean,

0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what a star quality she has and it was apparent

0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.199
<v Speaker 1>right away. And the comedy bits she's doing are not

0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.120
<v Speaker 1>easily done. When she sprays herself in the eyes and

0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.240
<v Speaker 1>her I mean delivering the dialogue that way and doing

0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the physicality of it and then coming back out and

0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.560
<v Speaker 1>having a good conversation with those two. You're never going like, oh,

0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.440
<v Speaker 1>come on, the wrong way for Emily and the wrong

0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.120
<v Speaker 1>way for you know. It's just like, oh my god.

0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And she's so so just just every time she's on screen. Yeah,

0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.120
<v Speaker 1>she just takes she runs away with a scene. She's

0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the most talented her and good god. So you were

0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:11.040
<v Speaker 1>assistant director from the beginning, in the early years, obviously,

0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.640
<v Speaker 1>did you have any idea when you started out how

0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.320
<v Speaker 1>important the show would become to so many people around

0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the world In the show I had to be a

0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.040
<v Speaker 1>huge hit right away. So I'm not at all surprised,

0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.520
<v Speaker 1>not at all. I felt the same way when I

0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.720
<v Speaker 1>read the pilot. I thought, this is I'll never get this.

0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.520
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a big show, um or at

0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.200
<v Speaker 1>least for that network, is gonna be big. But I

0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:40.160
<v Speaker 1>predicted five years. I was wrong by two. Well I

0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:44.319
<v Speaker 1>think it would have kept going, you know, boy, Yeah, yeah,

0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:51.040
<v Speaker 1>we can talk about that. Yeah. It was interesting too,

0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.280
<v Speaker 1>because I was there, like live there it was my life.

0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And then after I had this stroke, I mean I directed.

0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Then I was envisioning that I would keep direct Dean

0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and I had the stroke and so I was but

0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they kept They were such a wonderful show for me.

0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Amy just was amazing and everybody and um, so they

0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>even when I couldn't work, I mean it was a

0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.160
<v Speaker 1>big one. Um they had me because a lot of

0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.760
<v Speaker 1>people would come on and and to break down these shows.

0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.920
<v Speaker 1>They were very complicated, and they would ask me to

0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.320
<v Speaker 1>do it while I was home. And then when I

0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.000
<v Speaker 1>actually could work, then they brought me back as the

0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>production manager, which is a very difficult job and lots

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, but you don't have to be on the

0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.640
<v Speaker 1>set all the time, which was difficult for me at

0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that time. And so they really let me. I mean

0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it was they supported me throughout, which I will always

0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.440
<v Speaker 1>always be great. And then I had my mother had,

0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, became ill, and so then I ultimately had

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to leave and I got this great job as an

0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.440
<v Speaker 1>executive at Sony. So I went for that and went

0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to Madrid. But other than that, I love the show

0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and I said Caitlin down there so she could report

0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:04.360
<v Speaker 1>back and George, Um, what are the really juicy behind

0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the scenes stuff that you can tell us talk about

0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:14.119
<v Speaker 1>if I don't do that, really you have a specific

0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.920
<v Speaker 1>thing and it would only be positive. I mean the

0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.680
<v Speaker 1>last night's episode. I remember sometime. I mean, we just

0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.760
<v Speaker 1>laughed so much. We were so sleep deprived, and there

0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.960
<v Speaker 1>was and I don't remember. I think it might have

0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>been that episode because I just remember because Laura Laie

0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Lauren was on the floor so when that dress came

0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.640
<v Speaker 1>down and hit her and caused the back problem, and thought, oh,

0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was it because we're in the living room

0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and I just remember we just we're all just cracking up,

0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like as an actor when you can't get that,

0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, it broke up this glory again.

0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But we weren't filmed, you know, we couldn't even like

0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.120
<v Speaker 1>roll again. We couldn't do anything. Lauren could do it.

0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was it was probably like four o'clock in

0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the morning or something, but just the laughter and the camaraderie,

0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and we would go out after Friday on Friday nights,

0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, would either be in the camera truck or

0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.720
<v Speaker 1>else we go out with Amy and Dan and especially

0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning and just have a blast and our

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>rap parties. At one rap party, I think I gotta

0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.400
<v Speaker 1>lead it to Gypsy and I was sort of embarrassed,

0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like I thought, oh my god. And I went the

0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.600
<v Speaker 1>next day and I apologized to Amy. I said, I'm

0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.360
<v Speaker 1>so sorry, she's oh my god. I left you all

0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the more for that. And then when I was direct

0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Dorothy Parker Productions, Drink here, Dorothy Parker Drink here Productions. There.

0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.360
<v Speaker 1>When I was directing, I was so exhausted because you

0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.480
<v Speaker 1>really had to be like, how am I shooting this?

0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah. And I live in Malibu,

0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's like another two hour driver hour driver or whatever.

0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.560
<v Speaker 1>So I actually stayed in somebody's dressing room. I don't know.

0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a nice one. And and so one of

0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the nights the guard came and said, no, I just

0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.200
<v Speaker 1>saw the slower. It was just what's going on. I said, Oh,

0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just here, don't worry, and Amy can do this

0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:02.240
<v Speaker 1>his honey, you can't sleep in the dressing room. I

0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that anymore. Why liability issue for the studio,

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Like if there was a nearthquake or some something, nobody

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>knows you there I said, well, tyl M, I'm here,

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, just get me if there's problem. Yeah, they

0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, they get your car, they'll get you home, right.

0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Everybody speaking of sleeping, I can't do it, but lunch

0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.640
<v Speaker 1>are everybody had his spot and they all took him

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and were sound. It's like I remember the Lance and

0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody was like, there's now away here, you know, because

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you just utterly exhausted. The show is a grind. I

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 1>want to grind. Wow, did you did you find did

0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you like the days that we would shoot the town

0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>hall meetings because it was just the one location. Well,

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.119
<v Speaker 1>those easier days on you. Nothing is easy, I mean.

0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And and all the actors are there. I mean they're

0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.840
<v Speaker 1>hysterical when you get um, oh my god, that bet

0:17:55.960 --> 0:18:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and Mrs Betty. I know, I know, I'm thinking, um,

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.200
<v Speaker 1>come on, Amy, tell me who my talk was? Babette,

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Sally and Pats telling this together? You mean the set

0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.080
<v Speaker 1>just I'm like, I'm losing control here. I mean, they're

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:18.720
<v Speaker 1>all And it was also often really hot in there

0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.880
<v Speaker 1>because it gets hot in the valley and we had

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to be tented in because it's a night scene, and

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.879
<v Speaker 1>so we're all like whipping wet and and it was

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work. Any of those I personally preferred,

0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, two people in the room that was my favorite.

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>All of that going on, it's a huge deal for

0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.760
<v Speaker 1>an a D or for lots of the production stuff.

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a big, big, big thing when you have so

0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:47.040
<v Speaker 1>many actors and extras and coordinating everything. You know, it's

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it was worked. So when you were directing, what were

0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the most difficult scenes for you to direct? You know,

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it really came naturally because you know, I've been doing

0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the chauffeurs along. I'm like, hey, and I knew the

0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.080
<v Speaker 1>style and they knew you know, so it wasn't really difficult.

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.520
<v Speaker 1>It was I felt bad because when my last day,

0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember, um, how make in Paris is the wonderful

0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:17.159
<v Speaker 1>actors Liza wheel Tisa. Okay, so Liza was it was

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>a big fencing scene with everybody stunts and fencing and

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.240
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff and lies against the script the

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>day before and she the next day's work, which I

0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't schedule. The next day D scheduled had her with

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.560
<v Speaker 1>these like ten page monologues or I mean something, I

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>mean not tempage, but a huge monologue. So she's like, oh,

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>my god, I have to memories all this and I'm

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.119
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of fencing, and you know, so I

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>felt bad for them, but I loved it and it

0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.439
<v Speaker 1>worked out fine. There was one time I remember, and

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which part, but it was like four

0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.879
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, and I think I turned to

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Michael the the DP and I'm like, you gotta help

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 1>me here. I don't know if I can't even remember

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:05.480
<v Speaker 1>my name right now, Michael Price. Yeah, but I did.

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>It was fun there because I really modeled, like I

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've seen that episode, but you should

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.680
<v Speaker 1>bring me back when that episode on, because I did

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all the President's Men, when the deep throat scene, and

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a scene that's I shot it scene shot for

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>shot as the scene in the in the parking lot anyway,

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>not but I love it. Carla. We want to have

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you on all the time. Your stories are great, stories,

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 1>keep keeping coming coming. I don't want to know if

0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Carla is team Logan just is team all I loved,

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean you, not love them all, I mean my

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.959
<v Speaker 1>low Jared, I mean they're all you know. I probably

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>worked the most with them, but I did do stuff

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>with Matt such a great guy. I mean, they were

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>all just the sweet eat his people besides being you know,

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the sweetest characters are best characters or you know, it's

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>just And I also worked on We're going to do

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a spinoff sort of with Milo and so I did

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that too with skateboarding and a lot of stuff like that,

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, they're just all the best. With

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>rob Estus, yeah, you know they shot the pilot down

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 1>there in Venice Venice Beach. Yeah yeah. Um, so we

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 1>had George Bell on recently and uh, you know it

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>leads to the question, how did your daughter get into

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:41.640
<v Speaker 1>actually becoming or even a part time dialogue coach? Well,

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I brought you you both of your dialect coachs because

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 1>as you know, everybody's getting fired. I mean, we went

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 1>through more crew than you can. Our department has gone

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.959
<v Speaker 1>okay this, you know, everybody was fired, and so we

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>needed when I worked my husband new George, like when

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 1>they were like seventeen, you know, they my husband went

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to Juilliard for acting, but before he went to Juilliard,

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 1>he went to Northbridge where he met George. And George

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>is our lifelong like best friend, and I got him.

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>He worked with me on hook and he was a

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>great he did. I said, I need somebody for these

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>last boys, George, and so I really started him on

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>his dialogue coaching journey, which actually was really on Gilmer Girls.

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But George. Everybody loves George is everybody in my whole life.

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody loves George. I mean he's in my book actually,

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 1>And I staid talking about relationships with friends, and I'm like,

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>George Bell and I wrote about it. But so I'm thinking, like, okay,

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody was at wood Stands, who can we bring in?

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:44.919
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I gotta have the perfect man. I

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 1>have the perfect person, you know, to have and um

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and so we got George and everybody loved him, you know,

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and he was the best and it was great. And

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>then George was just overwhelmed, especially he was gonna quit.

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Like the first night, he goes, oh my god, because

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there on the set and it was just horrible.

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>But but it all worked out. But um so then

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>later on, and I don't know what season, but one

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of the later seasons, he says, I just can't do this.

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>This is all the time, you know, I have to

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>have a break. And so he wanted someone to fill

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>in and came to me and I was a production

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>manager at the time and I was just talking at

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>home and everything, and I said, I have to think

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of somebody. And Katon said, I can do that. She

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 1>was actually going to USC, she graduated from USC. And

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>she says, I could do that. And I'm like, honey,

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna eat you speak you out because no one

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.399
<v Speaker 1>likes to be said you missed the thaw in the

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>last you know or whatever. You know, the minutia that

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to be on top of, and it's not

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>an easy show for a new person to come on.

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>They'll be eating up by everybody, including Amy. And I said, honey,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so she said, no, no, I know

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I can do it. And I'm like, okay. And she did.

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.880
<v Speaker 1>She did a great job. The cast all her everybody

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>loved her. It was fine. Yeah, she did great. Um,

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and we got I mean, we really needed her, and

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>we really needed George and uh, you know, he made

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the days shorter, he made the work better, um. And

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>he took off a lot of stress on that set

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>because before he came along, you remember what it was like.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>It was boy, a lot of people going up on

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>their lines. You know, everybody was pretty much going up

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 1>on their lines like more often possible job for a

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>script supervisor, which is all we had, and it was

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>sure Starbuck, I think was awful. Lot of spokes christ supervisors,

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh mom, good every time. Like I'd have to fire

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people when I became production matter

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, I don't want you to

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>take this personally. It's nothing to do with you, you know,

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just this is just you know, the thing. But anyway, um,

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>but to keep track of I mean, a script supervisor's

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>job is continuity, to make sure like if the person

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>was drinking the glass and the first cut and where,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, just to make sure everything Matt is and

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 1>to correct the dialogue. But it's a complicated job, you know,

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's right up there with a D. But not

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like anyway as far as difficulty, but in numbers of

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>hours put in. But it's just too much because you

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>really have to just be focused on the script or

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 1>working with the actors and you're trying to do your

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>notes in between shots, so you really can't go to

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the actor's dressing room. I mean, it's very very difficult.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>So the idea of bringing in some and just for

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that was essential and I think that made a huge difference,

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and the right person made the huge difference. And there

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you go. Yeah, it was going through script supervisors as

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you noticed episode Oh my goodness, that was it was.

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It really did seem that way. You're right, there was

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>always we had an editor that was wanted what she wanted,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>and I mean you had to adapt to a lot

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of people and they ran a tight ship over there. Wow,

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what made it so great though, you know, that's

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>what made it great. Um, but I think it was

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>really did you personally? Do you think it was a

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>budgeting issue? Like if there was a larger budget for

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the show, a lot of these problems wouldn't rear their

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>ugly heads. No. I think something it was a budgeting

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>problem is just the demands placed on the crew and

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the cast because of the density of the dialogue, long

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>hours or what or what I mean our budget we

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>because you know, shooting long hours. I tell people for

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.719
<v Speaker 1>years this, you know, you don't gain anything and you're

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>got into triple gold time or something. It's not it's

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not cost saving to shoot such long hours. I mean

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you're going your overtime budget is you know, you'll be

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>lucky to you know, be at all in the black

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>every episode being the red. I mean, that isn't a

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>good way to shoot, let alone for safety. For every

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody's your your brain dead. I mean, how you remember

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>your lines at for or and afterwards. It's crazy, So

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not a wise thing. But I don't remember really

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>budget constraints. Amy pretty much had a free rank. But

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Amy wanted Amy got pretty much, and so I don't

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>remember like, oh my goodness, we can't have a crane here.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>If she wanted crane, we got a crane. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we did have the stuff, didn't we Um. Yeah, it's

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>just the density, the length of the scripts. The eight

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>page scripts were normal hours what sixty five the scripts

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>right pages? And it was not in the dialogue. I

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>mean it was it was you know, twenty twenty bigger

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and longer in pages, but maybe fifty to sevent in

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just sheer amount of words. Um right, But you have

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to realize you're also going but you speaking so quickly,

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of shows are like I mean, I

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>think with all the good directors I've worked with, their

0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>most common direction, even the most the biggest directors is

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>what do you think on our show? No, on any show,

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and especially even on big shows. Most common direct from

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and in some directors who are very very famous, it

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>was really their only director. Probably faster, funnier, faster, just faster, faster,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>faster TV. TV doesn't allow much time to indulge in anything. Well, no,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>just to speaking faster, you know, like if you have

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>a if you see a show that's directed by an actor,

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>actors indulged themselves much more because he's an actor. But

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>most directors want an actor to speed it up and

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>not be like and then I felt they want to

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>go and then to go, but you know they don't

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>want it. Yeah, pitty the poor directors that would come

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>up and give you line readings. You know, it's like wow,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>but it happens. It happens. Sometimes it has to happen,

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's kind of yeah, no, no, not good,

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>you're not good. Yeah, are you ready for rapid Fire?

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>One thing about the Rapid Fire, you have to realize

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that everybody who worked on the show, not I mean

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>as crew or whatever, not just the cast. But if

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I speak very quickly, as you probably noticed, Amy loves

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that if I would bring someone on for a job,

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just, oh my god, it just talks us slowly,

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and you'd only get Amy sometimes like okay, Amy, So

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what do you think I'd have to go that quickly

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to get whatever I was gonna grab while she's walking

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom or something, you know, and so you

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>have to speak very quickly, which I just normally do.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I had two older sisters, so to get anything in

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>at dinner, I believe. But so hopefully I'll have answers

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>as quickly you're gonna do fine? Okay, ready? Are they

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the same questions for everybody? I can't reveal that. Well,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen your show, so I have no idea.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Here we go, fasten your seatb out here we go?

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>How do you How do you take your coffee? I

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't drink off story? Can you smell snow? Oh yeah,

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I come from Wisconsin. He let go. Are your team Logan,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Jess or Dean? We answered that already as team all

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>of them. Who's the daddy? I don't care. It's Luke,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>probably Mad. I don't know. That'll be like the Channel

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>J version that they run it at one am. Okay.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Best memory of Gilmore Girls Oh my god, just are laughing,

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you know it was, it's just what's the best? And

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the scripts opening in the script for the first time,

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm reading and going, whoa great? And how the heck

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>am I going to shoot this? Uh show? You're binge

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>watching right now? You don't watch TV. I'm a documentary girl. Sorry,

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>cast member you texted? Most recently, I haven't. Georgia and

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I keep in touch all the time while he was

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a guest memory did he played parts? But I really haven't.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've seen each other for like sixteen

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>years or something. I don't know. I mean, I haven't

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>really kept in contact. Well, I renewed contact with the winter, Spring,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>summer fall, you know, you know, with Lauren and Alexis

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and but when I was up in Canada, I was

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>up in Toronto a couple of years ago. Yes, oh yeah, fantastic,

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was such a whirlwind. I didn't really get

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to see anybody. And the fan festivals it's very close.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful, all the all the wonderful cast members, and

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I blanking who I hang I hang out with George

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and most but um I brought Georgia on stage with

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>festivals from Liz to you know, Emily, all of them,

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody that's there. I obviously share wonderful things,

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>but I don't text them. I'm not a great texture.

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning because that's all the younger generation does, and

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I've got lots of younger generations. Carla, absolute pleasure to

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to you, and we'll talk to you again. This

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>was This was fun. It was really fun. I had

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a great time. I love talking about the Gilmer Girls,

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and it really is. That's why I love the Van festivals.

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I'm there, I'll go whatever, and I

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I'm watching the shows for the first time,

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're so good. They're so good it's blowing my

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>You asked, next time, what is the show that I've

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>been watched, I'll say, and I can't how many people

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that I've run into in Malibu even and then you

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I did during COVID, I'm like, no, what

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I got? I bench watched gilmar I feel good. I

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>have fans that tell me they've watched at least one

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>episode a day to this day. Every day. Yes, I

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>whoa okay, but my husband was so because he's a

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>wonderful actor. He's an amazing artist, but he would always

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>joke with me because, so, what's the line this week?

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Does Laura like get a new refrigerator? You know you

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>have to realize that, you know, they weren't like heavy duty,

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>although they were, but you know, it was kind of

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>funny that you know there would be something that was

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>because it was life. You know. I worked with Tom

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Hanks on The Burbs and and um, I think it

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was one of the first films. I was the first time,

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and he just always did something in a gesture or

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever that was so true to life. You know. It

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's that's what makes it. You know, it

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just is it's just getting that everyone can relate to quality,

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and in that skilm are girls too, and

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that really is and all the wonderful actors and acting

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>very special, very special little world. That was, Um god,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they're going to do more. I wonder,

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I wonder wonder if Netflix. Oh, by the way, the

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>other thing that I said, my younger daughter who's now

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like she just shot Batman. She's like all of them,

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>but she was this this avid reader. She went to

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Vassar and she read all the time, so Dan and

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I would you know, orry reading all the books and

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he goes, just what are you reading now? And you

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>know we have all this stuff that you know we

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>could be because she was worried. That's who she was,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, amazing more. I have no idea. I'm sure

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone would love it, but you know, maybe, you know,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>just an hour or two hour movie. I don't know.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just so hard to get everybody together. You

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>know what? We should do another season? Why not? The

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Netflix thing was fun. I'm too old. I just celebrated

0:34:50.440 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>my seventies. No way, are you serious? Wow? Oh my god, wow,

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>um listen, thank you so much for your time. And

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you uh, you're out there in Malibou. You

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>probably want to hit the surf. Yeah, that's where I'm

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>going next. You got you know what I'm actually doing next.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>You will not believe it. Five. I have to go

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>down and say goodbye to my wonderful ups man as

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>a surprise because he's retiring. He just was the best.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's where I'm going. Wow, Malibu a little bit

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like stars Hollow with the beach, and I'm taking my

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>two a half year old granddaughter, Layton Phoenix, who was

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>born after the horrific another story, Woolsey fires that destroyed

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood. My husband and I stayed and fought the

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>fire and saved her home and um but every during COVID,

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking her out, walking her around the neighborhood and

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody's here, but the ups may would come by and like, Hey,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm That's why I said I had an appointment.

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>They're really important things these times. They are Carla, you

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>definitely get best Chair award. I love that. You should

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>see the room. Sometimes you check out Lee McCloskey, um

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>L E I G. H. Mcclowsky dot com or age

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Lee J. McCloskey. I'm sitting in a room that you

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>will freaking not believe every most amazing, mind blowing thing.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>And we have events before COVID and after, well not

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>after uh Gilmer Girls, because I did other shows. When

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I retired, we started having events at our home. I

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>would have four or five events in my home open

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to the every week. People thought I was nuts, But

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>people because is that is Lee your husband. He's gorgeous.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I know he's I was like, oh my god, what

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in the worlds He's like a movie star. I'm like,

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>he's an amazing actor and has a huge resume. Blah

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.879
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. The picture that comes up is as him.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>He's gorgeous and he always has oh my on everyone listen.

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Met him my first day in the business, my very

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>first day as an assistant director trainee, and he was

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the star of this show. How long have you been married?

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Forty five years? I think, I mean we've been together.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>We're married. Everybody listening needs to do this. And we're

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>not google part and we have a nuts and family

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>that's seen in the better part, an amazing home, an

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>amazing garden. I'm blessed every day. I'm like, thank you,

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Oh my god, what this guy is a

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>legit babe. Wow, now he is? He is you see

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>his talent. I mean he's brilliant. Absolutely, this is super cool.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 1>The colors are incredible, amazing. So oh, Carla, we can't

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>wait to have you back. Thank you so much. That's good.

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Carla, good catching up. Good to see you.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your time. Than Hey, everybody, and don't forget

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and Emailie at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com.

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh you gil More fans. If you're looking for the

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>best cup of coffee in the world, go to my

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>website for my company, scott ep dot com, s c

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>O T. T y P dot com, scotty p dot

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>com Grade one Specialty Coffee. Yeah.