1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All Right, everybody, We've 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: got a very special guest this week. Her name is 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Carla McClusky. She was the assistant director and uniproduction manager 5 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: on The Gilmore Girls. And she was born in Madison, Wisconsin, 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: um and she was assistant director for twenty seven episodes, 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and she was uniproduction manager from two thousand five two 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: thousand six. She gained an immense amount of experience working 9 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: in Hollywood and film and television. She's the mother to 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Brighton and Caitlin, a writer, a stroke survivor. She released 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: a book Grandma Told Me So, Lessons in Life and 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Love in two thousand seven. She's also well known for 13 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: her assistant directing in the closer Pretty Handsome, Ally mcbeel, 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Babylon five, If These Walls Could Talk, Color of Night, 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Jurassic Park, and much more. Ladies and gentlemen, Carla McCluskey, Carla, 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Episodes? Got to that I solemnly swear, 17 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: and shortly thereafter had a stroke during hiatus, so I 18 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: was sidelined for a while. Oh my goodness, you directed 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: a Gilmour episode. Yeah, it was mainly Um Alexis and 20 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean and it was it was Rory and Harris 21 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of episode fencing. Okay, well, now that you mentioned it, 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: it is coming back to me a little bit that 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: you did that. You did direct an episode. How interesting? Wow? Um, 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: so tell us about, um, what is it to be 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: an assistant director? What a job? What kind of jobs 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: did you have on set? What did you have to do? 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: It's probably the hardest job if if you everyone admits 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: that just your responsible for everything. I mean wardrobe responsible 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: for wardrobe, and sound is responsible for sound, and the 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: assistant director is responsible for everything. And so you're trying 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to coordinate everything. You schedule the show, you decide what 32 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: shot when. You have to have a time frame down 33 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: so people know, like, you know, how long this is 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna take, how long that's gonna take. And um, you 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: know it's very different on TV. Director doesn't have as 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: much power as on a feature. Well on Gilmer Girls, 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: it's Amy we all know that everything. But yeah, you're 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: just you know, you're the one bix. You know, you 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: mainly just here you go rolling God, you know, but 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: but there's so much more and you know, as you 41 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: usually like the first one there and the last one 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: to leave. That's more in the second category. But as 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: a first assistant you just have more responsibilities. So what 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: did you think of each character's trajectory on the show? Who? 45 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Who Are? Who are you? Who are? Who? Did you 46 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: particularly notice change? Uh? In terms of you guys, I 47 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: did the first show, so I saw, you know, the 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: younger cast Alexis and was Dean, you know, I mean, 49 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm Jared. I mean the young people I just saw 50 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: completely mature as not just actors but as people, you know, 51 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: So that was quite amazing. And I know in the 52 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: whole Dean just met Wait, what's this really Logan thing? 53 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: There's always you know, Dean isn't always the most popular, 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: but I just rewatched an episode they asked me about 55 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: and you know, he was he was just charming. I mean, 56 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: it was so wonderful to start with everybody when you 57 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: start with the show. First of all, you guys are 58 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: with me, you know, when he brings someone new in, 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: sometimes the actors and casts is like, yeah, what's this? 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: But I always knew that you knew me and I 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: knew you, and if I said something, you know, we 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: had a wonderful before and it was great to do that. 63 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: So um, I mean you and of course Lauren. I mean, 64 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: so many are just such professionals right away. So you know, 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I didn't um as as actors, you know, didn't see 66 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: a huge change because you're always good, um and as people, 67 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: you're mature adults, so there wasn't such a change then either. 68 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if that's the question that you're 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: asking or if the whole arc of the character or 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: is that Oh that's fine, Oh that's great. Um um. 71 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: So listen, we had pretty intense discussions in our last 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: episode about all the relationships, especially Luke and Laurelies. I mean, 73 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: did you see the connection between those two characters right away? 74 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Did you notice it? Yes, I definitely did. I mean 75 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: there's a chemistry there. You know, there's definitely chemistry. And 76 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: it was just you know, rewatching, you know, because I 77 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: haven't really watched this. It's sort of a assing because 78 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: I do all the fan festivals and the fans can 79 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: recite every script by heart, you know, it's like amazing. 80 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: And they asked me a question about something and I'm like, 81 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, this is twenty years ago or whatever, and 82 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: it's sort of like and I haven't I don't rewatch 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: them really and rewatching I'm going to rewatch them. I mean, 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: I watched one last night and I'm like, this is 85 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: so good. I mean everything about it was so good 86 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: and I just loved it and I can see why 87 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: people love it so much, and I mean, I always 88 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: love this show. I came in and they showed, you know, 89 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: and asked and I said, well, could I see this show? 90 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: And they had the pilot episode and I'm like, oh, 91 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: this is good. And every single time, no matter when 92 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: I got the script, I'm going to be walking on 93 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the zet or something. It was great and the scripts 94 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: were always and that does not happen a lot. When 95 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: you're proud of something that you're doing, I'll work those 96 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: eighteen hours or twenty hours or whatever because it's it's 97 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: it's wonderful. I mean, it's just it's so good, and 98 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: it's certainly I can see why it's the huge hit 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: that it is now. And from the beginning, it's it's 100 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: spoiled me. That show spoiled me because I went on 101 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: to do other shows and it just you know, they 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: were good and great writing staffs and all that. But 103 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: it was just it was different, you know, it was different. 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: It was I'll be honest about it. I've done a 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: lot of shows and everything, and this one was top notch, 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: and and some other ones were good, but you know, 107 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: it's just not even nearly close anyway, Thank god, it 108 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: was such a positive experience. So let me ask you this. 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that Luke should have spoken up earlier 110 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: to Laurela professing his love to her? In your opinion? No, 111 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't, And didn't you know what from the beginning? 112 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I think it means that whole storyline. 113 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it was wonderful. I mean, I the whole 114 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: series would have been condensed much more quickly. I think 115 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: I think it was important to go through all the 116 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: different things and have her have other relationship ships and 117 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: have this friendship. After all, what does a good relationship 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: what is it based on? It's based on a friendship. 119 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm best friends with my husband of forty 120 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: five years. You know, it's just like and we're still 121 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: mad in love. So I think that's a real good start, 122 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: and that's the basis. And I don't you know, I 123 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: don't think it would have been I liked how it 124 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: was done right. What do you think of Max, Max Medina? 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: You're going to be testing me as some of this 126 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I liked. I like the actor. Oh no, without question, 127 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: without a great No, Max is fine. I'm not remembering 128 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: every story, you know it was. I can't think of 129 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: someone I went, w Where's why they go there? You 130 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: know that just wasn't aiming for one thing? You know, 131 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: it's there was you know, it played the way it 132 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: was most flaying. How about Rory and Dean? What do 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: you think of that whole arc? Lived Rien, Jess Ollive, Rorrien, Max, 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Just love y'all. That was great. It was just so sweet. 135 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the sweet years. It was so 136 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: so so nice, and they've all gone on to such success. 137 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's just fabulous to see, you know, great 138 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: launching pad for those guys, you know, and girls. Um 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: what about Emily and Laurela? What about that dynamic? What 140 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: do you remember about that? It's fabulous? I mean to 141 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: gros too. I mean there's just so great and such 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: lovely people. And the episode that I did watch that 143 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: they've mentioned to me, the people that are doing this, um, 144 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot about their relationship and to 145 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: see that it was Rory's dance. I don't know what, 146 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: but anyway, that's what I was asked to watch. So 147 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: I did watch that and to see, you know this 148 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: there held this constantly conflict, conflict, but then to actually 149 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: see in that particular episode, the love, the love that 150 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: when she when Laurelae sleeping and then Emily like it 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: puts her hair back, see that she's seeing her as 152 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: this the little girl that she even says thank you mommy, 153 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: thank you mommy, because she was heavily that's rue. And 154 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: and of course, I mean in any family and most families, 155 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and know in my family there was a lot of 156 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: discord and very different. They were very different and so 157 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: um you know, you get it. It is. It is 158 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: rather amazing that Emily thinks that she can walk into 159 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Laurelized house and give her what for and give her 160 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: that level of disrespect. I mean, it just is amazing. 161 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: And I was so glad that she kicked her out 162 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: of her house, like, get out of my house. You 163 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: don't think this is a life, It's not good enough 164 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: for you. Leave. That's so true. That's not an exaggeration. 165 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: There are mothers and hopefully my girls will say I'm 166 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: not like Fai, But there are mothers like that. I mean, 167 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: I think they're like evil. Like some of the stories 168 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: I hear, I'm like, oh my goodness. You know, it's 169 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: like what one person said, they brought there, they were strange, 170 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: and they bought their young daughter to finally meet this 171 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: wicked mother, and mother says she's so pretty, she must 172 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: take after her father. I mean, it's just like this classic, 173 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: even worse than Emily Sin. What a what a what 174 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: a complicated character? And what a what a complicated relationship? 175 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: That is my god. It's like they just hate each other. 176 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: They just absolutely hate each other, but they need each other. 177 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: They underleath that they really don't. They still have that, 178 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, there is this love connection even with the hate, 179 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: tred or the complete both sides. You know. Let me 180 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: ask you this, how important did you think that characters 181 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: like Suki, Michelle Lane, Miss Patty Kirk are to the Yeah? 182 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: I think they were just so important each one. And 183 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: I actually I've written two books, and my first book 184 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: has a lot about memories come from stars hollow. Basically, 185 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: that's right, c upload I Wisconsin, he said Madison. But 186 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: it's a little town outside of medicine. And I had 187 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the craziest characters and you know, writing about all of 188 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: the drudy at the bakery, but I mean that's so important. 189 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Each one of those characters was so well defined and 190 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: unique and wonderful. You just love them. They're so great 191 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: and to and to be um, oh my gosh and 192 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: blaking that his name uh was right there? Who played 193 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of different characters, so it was the crazy guy, 194 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: like the cable guy, and he was I mean, he 195 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: played a variety of those characters. But I mean they're 196 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: just such such amazing, you know, I I think they're 197 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: so wonderfully. I mean, that's the whole secret to having 198 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: a great show, as you have all these characters that 199 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: are so come fleet and unique, and you you know, 200 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: it's not like now, so who would be I mean, 201 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what really hit hit me 202 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: last night watching the episode was what a scene stealer 203 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: that Melissa McCarthy is. When she comes on screen, it's 204 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: like you can't watch anybody else. It's just h I mean, 205 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: what a star quality she has and it was apparent 206 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: right away. And the comedy bits she's doing are not 207 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: easily done. When she sprays herself in the eyes and 208 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: her I mean delivering the dialogue that way and doing 209 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: the physicality of it and then coming back out and 210 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: having a good conversation with those two. You're never going like, oh, 211 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: come on, the wrong way for Emily and the wrong 212 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: way for you know. It's just like, oh my god. 213 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: And she's so so just just every time she's on screen. Yeah, 214 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: she just takes she runs away with a scene. She's 215 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: the most talented her and good god. So you were 216 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: assistant director from the beginning, in the early years, obviously, 217 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: did you have any idea when you started out how 218 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: important the show would become to so many people around 219 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: the world In the show I had to be a 220 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: huge hit right away. So I'm not at all surprised, 221 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: not at all. I felt the same way when I 222 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: read the pilot. I thought, this is I'll never get this. 223 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a big show, um or at 224 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: least for that network, is gonna be big. But I 225 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: predicted five years. I was wrong by two. Well I 226 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: think it would have kept going, you know, boy, Yeah, yeah, 227 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: we can talk about that. Yeah. It was interesting too, 228 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: because I was there, like live there it was my life. 229 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: And then after I had this stroke, I mean I directed. 230 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: Then I was envisioning that I would keep direct Dean 231 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: and I had the stroke and so I was but 232 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: they kept They were such a wonderful show for me. 233 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Amy just was amazing and everybody and um, so they 234 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: even when I couldn't work, I mean it was a 235 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: big one. Um they had me because a lot of 236 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: people would come on and and to break down these shows. 237 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: They were very complicated, and they would ask me to 238 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: do it while I was home. And then when I 239 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: actually could work, then they brought me back as the 240 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: production manager, which is a very difficult job and lots 241 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: of stuff, but you don't have to be on the 242 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: set all the time, which was difficult for me at 243 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: that time. And so they really let me. I mean 244 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: it was they supported me throughout, which I will always 245 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: always be great. And then I had my mother had, 246 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, became ill, and so then I ultimately had 247 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: to leave and I got this great job as an 248 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: executive at Sony. So I went for that and went 249 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: to Madrid. But other than that, I love the show 250 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: and I said Caitlin down there so she could report 251 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: back and George, Um, what are the really juicy behind 252 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: the scenes stuff that you can tell us talk about 253 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,119 Speaker 1: if I don't do that, really you have a specific 254 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: thing and it would only be positive. I mean the 255 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: last night's episode. I remember sometime. I mean, we just 256 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: laughed so much. We were so sleep deprived, and there 257 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: was and I don't remember. I think it might have 258 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: been that episode because I just remember because Laura Laie 259 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Lauren was on the floor so when that dress came 260 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: down and hit her and caused the back problem, and thought, oh, 261 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: maybe that was it because we're in the living room 262 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: and I just remember we just we're all just cracking up, 263 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, like as an actor when you can't get that, 264 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, it broke up this glory again. 265 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: But we weren't filmed, you know, we couldn't even like 266 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: roll again. We couldn't do anything. Lauren could do it. 267 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: And it was it was probably like four o'clock in 268 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: the morning or something, but just the laughter and the camaraderie, 269 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: and we would go out after Friday on Friday nights, 270 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, would either be in the camera truck or 271 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: else we go out with Amy and Dan and especially 272 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: in the beginning and just have a blast and our 273 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: rap parties. At one rap party, I think I gotta 274 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: lead it to Gypsy and I was sort of embarrassed, 275 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: like I thought, oh my god. And I went the 276 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: next day and I apologized to Amy. I said, I'm 277 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: so sorry, she's oh my god. I left you all 278 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: the more for that. And then when I was direct 279 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Dorothy Parker Productions, Drink here, Dorothy Parker Drink here Productions. There. 280 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: When I was directing, I was so exhausted because you 281 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: really had to be like, how am I shooting this? 282 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. And I live in Malibu, 283 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: so that's like another two hour driver hour driver or whatever. 284 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: So I actually stayed in somebody's dressing room. I don't know. 285 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: It was a nice one. And and so one of 286 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: the nights the guard came and said, no, I just 287 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: saw the slower. It was just what's going on. I said, Oh, 288 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm just here, don't worry, and Amy can do this 289 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: his honey, you can't sleep in the dressing room. I 290 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: didn't do that anymore. Why liability issue for the studio, 291 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: Like if there was a nearthquake or some something, nobody 292 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: knows you there I said, well, tyl M, I'm here, 293 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, just get me if there's problem. Yeah, they 294 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, they get your car, they'll get you home, right. 295 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Everybody speaking of sleeping, I can't do it, but lunch 296 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: are everybody had his spot and they all took him 297 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and were sound. It's like I remember the Lance and 298 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: everybody was like, there's now away here, you know, because 299 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: you just utterly exhausted. The show is a grind. I 300 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: want to grind. Wow, did you did you find did 301 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: you like the days that we would shoot the town 302 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: hall meetings because it was just the one location. Well, 303 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: those easier days on you. Nothing is easy, I mean. 304 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: And and all the actors are there. I mean they're 305 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: hysterical when you get um, oh my god, that bet 306 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: and Mrs Betty. I know, I know, I'm thinking, um, 307 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: come on, Amy, tell me who my talk was? Babette, 308 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: Sally and Pats telling this together? You mean the set 309 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: just I'm like, I'm losing control here. I mean, they're 310 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: all And it was also often really hot in there 311 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: because it gets hot in the valley and we had 312 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: to be tented in because it's a night scene, and 313 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: so we're all like whipping wet and and it was 314 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: a lot of work. Any of those I personally preferred, 315 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, two people in the room that was my favorite. 316 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: All of that going on, it's a huge deal for 317 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: an a D or for lots of the production stuff. 318 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: It's a big, big, big thing when you have so 319 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: many actors and extras and coordinating everything. You know, it's 320 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: it was worked. So when you were directing, what were 321 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: the most difficult scenes for you to direct? You know, 322 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: it really came naturally because you know, I've been doing 323 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: the chauffeurs along. I'm like, hey, and I knew the 324 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: style and they knew you know, so it wasn't really difficult. 325 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: It was I felt bad because when my last day, 326 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: I remember, um, how make in Paris is the wonderful 327 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: actors Liza wheel Tisa. Okay, so Liza was it was 328 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: a big fencing scene with everybody stunts and fencing and 329 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: all this other stuff and lies against the script the 330 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: day before and she the next day's work, which I 331 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: didn't schedule. The next day D scheduled had her with 332 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: these like ten page monologues or I mean something, I 333 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: mean not tempage, but a huge monologue. So she's like, oh, 334 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: my god, I have to memories all this and I'm 335 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: in the middle of fencing, and you know, so I 336 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: felt bad for them, but I loved it and it 337 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: worked out fine. There was one time I remember, and 338 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know which part, but it was like four 339 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and I think I turned to 340 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Michael the the DP and I'm like, you gotta help 341 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: me here. I don't know if I can't even remember 342 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: my name right now, Michael Price. Yeah, but I did. 343 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: It was fun there because I really modeled, like I 344 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen that episode, but you should 345 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: bring me back when that episode on, because I did 346 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: all the President's Men, when the deep throat scene, and 347 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: there's a scene that's I shot it scene shot for 348 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: shot as the scene in the in the parking lot anyway, 349 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: not but I love it. Carla. We want to have 350 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: you on all the time. Your stories are great, stories, 351 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: keep keeping coming coming. I don't want to know if 352 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: Carla is team Logan just is team all I loved, 353 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean you, not love them all, I mean my 354 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: low Jared, I mean they're all you know. I probably 355 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: worked the most with them, but I did do stuff 356 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: with Matt such a great guy. I mean, they were 357 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: all just the sweet eat his people besides being you know, 358 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: the sweetest characters are best characters or you know, it's 359 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: just And I also worked on We're going to do 360 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: a spinoff sort of with Milo and so I did 361 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: that too with skateboarding and a lot of stuff like that, 362 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: and so you know, they're just all the best. With 363 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: rob Estus, yeah, you know they shot the pilot down 364 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: there in Venice Venice Beach. Yeah yeah. Um, so we 365 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: had George Bell on recently and uh, you know it 366 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: leads to the question, how did your daughter get into 367 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: actually becoming or even a part time dialogue coach? Well, 368 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: I brought you you both of your dialect coachs because 369 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: as you know, everybody's getting fired. I mean, we went 370 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: through more crew than you can. Our department has gone 371 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: okay this, you know, everybody was fired, and so we 372 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: needed when I worked my husband new George, like when 373 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: they were like seventeen, you know, they my husband went 374 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: to Juilliard for acting, but before he went to Juilliard, 375 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: he went to Northbridge where he met George. And George 376 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: is our lifelong like best friend, and I got him. 377 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: He worked with me on hook and he was a 378 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: great he did. I said, I need somebody for these 379 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: last boys, George, and so I really started him on 380 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: his dialogue coaching journey, which actually was really on Gilmer Girls. 381 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: But George. Everybody loves George is everybody in my whole life. 382 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: Everybody loves George. I mean he's in my book actually, 383 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: And I staid talking about relationships with friends, and I'm like, 384 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: George Bell and I wrote about it. But so I'm thinking, like, okay, 385 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: everybody was at wood Stands, who can we bring in? 386 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I gotta have the perfect man. I 387 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: have the perfect person, you know, to have and um 388 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: and so we got George and everybody loved him, you know, 389 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: and he was the best and it was great. And 390 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: then George was just overwhelmed, especially he was gonna quit. 391 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: Like the first night, he goes, oh my god, because 392 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't there on the set and it was just horrible. 393 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: But but it all worked out. But um so then 394 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: later on, and I don't know what season, but one 395 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: of the later seasons, he says, I just can't do this. 396 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: This is all the time, you know, I have to 397 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: have a break. And so he wanted someone to fill 398 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: in and came to me and I was a production 399 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: manager at the time and I was just talking at 400 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: home and everything, and I said, I have to think 401 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: of somebody. And Katon said, I can do that. She 402 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: was actually going to USC, she graduated from USC. And 403 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: she says, I could do that. And I'm like, honey, 404 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: they're gonna eat you speak you out because no one 405 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: likes to be said you missed the thaw in the 406 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: last you know or whatever. You know, the minutia that 407 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: you have to be on top of, and it's not 408 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: an easy show for a new person to come on. 409 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: They'll be eating up by everybody, including Amy. And I said, honey, 410 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so she said, no, no, I know 411 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I can do it. And I'm like, okay. And she did. 412 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: She did a great job. The cast all her everybody 413 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: loved her. It was fine. Yeah, she did great. Um, 414 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: and we got I mean, we really needed her, and 415 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: we really needed George and uh, you know, he made 416 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: the days shorter, he made the work better, um. And 417 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: he took off a lot of stress on that set 418 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: because before he came along, you remember what it was like. 419 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: It was boy, a lot of people going up on 420 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: their lines. You know, everybody was pretty much going up 421 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: on their lines like more often possible job for a 422 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: script supervisor, which is all we had, and it was 423 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: sure Starbuck, I think was awful. Lot of spokes christ supervisors, 424 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh mom, good every time. Like I'd have to fire 425 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the people when I became production matter 426 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I don't want you to 427 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: take this personally. It's nothing to do with you, you know, 428 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: it's just this is just you know, the thing. But anyway, um, 429 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: but to keep track of I mean, a script supervisor's 430 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: job is continuity, to make sure like if the person 431 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: was drinking the glass and the first cut and where, 432 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, just to make sure everything Matt is and 433 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: to correct the dialogue. But it's a complicated job, you know, 434 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: it's it's right up there with a D. But not 435 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: like anyway as far as difficulty, but in numbers of 436 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: hours put in. But it's just too much because you 437 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: really have to just be focused on the script or 438 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: working with the actors and you're trying to do your 439 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: notes in between shots, so you really can't go to 440 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the actor's dressing room. I mean, it's very very difficult. 441 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: So the idea of bringing in some and just for 442 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: that was essential and I think that made a huge difference, 443 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: and the right person made the huge difference. And there 444 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, it was going through script supervisors as 445 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: you noticed episode Oh my goodness, that was it was. 446 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: It really did seem that way. You're right, there was 447 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: always we had an editor that was wanted what she wanted, 448 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: and I mean you had to adapt to a lot 449 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: of people and they ran a tight ship over there. Wow, 450 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: that's what made it so great though, you know, that's 451 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: what made it great. Um, but I think it was 452 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: really did you personally? Do you think it was a 453 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: budgeting issue? Like if there was a larger budget for 454 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the show, a lot of these problems wouldn't rear their 455 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: ugly heads. No. I think something it was a budgeting 456 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: problem is just the demands placed on the crew and 457 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: the cast because of the density of the dialogue, long 458 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: hours or what or what I mean our budget we 459 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: because you know, shooting long hours. I tell people for 460 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: years this, you know, you don't gain anything and you're 461 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: got into triple gold time or something. It's not it's 462 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: not cost saving to shoot such long hours. I mean 463 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: you're going your overtime budget is you know, you'll be 464 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: lucky to you know, be at all in the black 465 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: every episode being the red. I mean, that isn't a 466 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: good way to shoot, let alone for safety. For every 467 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: everybody's your your brain dead. I mean, how you remember 468 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: your lines at for or and afterwards. It's crazy, So 469 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: that's not a wise thing. But I don't remember really 470 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: budget constraints. Amy pretty much had a free rank. But 471 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Amy wanted Amy got pretty much, and so I don't 472 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: remember like, oh my goodness, we can't have a crane here. 473 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: If she wanted crane, we got a crane. Yeah, yeah, 474 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: we did have the stuff, didn't we Um. Yeah, it's 475 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: just the density, the length of the scripts. The eight 476 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: page scripts were normal hours what sixty five the scripts 477 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: right pages? And it was not in the dialogue. I 478 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: mean it was it was you know, twenty twenty bigger 479 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: and longer in pages, but maybe fifty to sevent in 480 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: just sheer amount of words. Um right, But you have 481 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: to realize you're also going but you speaking so quickly, 482 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of shows are like I mean, I 483 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: think with all the good directors I've worked with, their 484 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: most common direction, even the most the biggest directors is 485 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: what do you think on our show? No, on any show, 486 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: and especially even on big shows. Most common direct from 487 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: and in some directors who are very very famous, it 488 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: was really their only director. Probably faster, funnier, faster, just faster, faster, 489 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: faster TV. TV doesn't allow much time to indulge in anything. Well, no, 490 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: just to speaking faster, you know, like if you have 491 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: a if you see a show that's directed by an actor, 492 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: actors indulged themselves much more because he's an actor. But 493 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: most directors want an actor to speed it up and 494 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: not be like and then I felt they want to 495 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: go and then to go, but you know they don't 496 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: want it. Yeah, pitty the poor directors that would come 497 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: up and give you line readings. You know, it's like wow, 498 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: but it happens. It happens. Sometimes it has to happen, 499 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's kind of yeah, no, no, not good, 500 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: you're not good. Yeah, are you ready for rapid Fire? 501 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: One thing about the Rapid Fire, you have to realize 502 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: that everybody who worked on the show, not I mean 503 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: as crew or whatever, not just the cast. But if 504 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: I speak very quickly, as you probably noticed, Amy loves 505 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: that if I would bring someone on for a job, 506 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: it's just, oh my god, it just talks us slowly, 507 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: and you'd only get Amy sometimes like okay, Amy, So 508 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: what do you think I'd have to go that quickly 509 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: to get whatever I was gonna grab while she's walking 510 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: to the bathroom or something, you know, and so you 511 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: have to speak very quickly, which I just normally do. 512 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: I had two older sisters, so to get anything in 513 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: at dinner, I believe. But so hopefully I'll have answers 514 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: as quickly you're gonna do fine? Okay, ready? Are they 515 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: the same questions for everybody? I can't reveal that. Well, 516 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen your show, so I have no idea. 517 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: Here we go, fasten your seatb out here we go? 518 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: How do you How do you take your coffee? I 519 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: don't drink off story? Can you smell snow? Oh yeah, 520 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: I come from Wisconsin. He let go. Are your team Logan, 521 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Jess or Dean? We answered that already as team all 522 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: of them. Who's the daddy? I don't care. It's Luke, 523 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: probably Mad. I don't know. That'll be like the Channel 524 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: J version that they run it at one am. Okay. 525 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls Oh my god, just are laughing, 526 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: you know it was, it's just what's the best? And 527 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: the scripts opening in the script for the first time, 528 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm reading and going, whoa great? And how the heck 529 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: am I going to shoot this? Uh show? You're binge 530 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: watching right now? You don't watch TV. I'm a documentary girl. Sorry, 531 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: cast member you texted? Most recently, I haven't. Georgia and 532 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: I keep in touch all the time while he was 533 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: a guest memory did he played parts? But I really haven't. 534 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen each other for like sixteen 535 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: years or something. I don't know. I mean, I haven't 536 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: really kept in contact. Well, I renewed contact with the winter, Spring, 537 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: summer fall, you know, you know, with Lauren and Alexis 538 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: and but when I was up in Canada, I was 539 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: up in Toronto a couple of years ago. Yes, oh yeah, fantastic, 540 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: but it was such a whirlwind. I didn't really get 541 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: to see anybody. And the fan festivals it's very close. 542 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: It's wonderful, all the all the wonderful cast members, and 543 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: I blanking who I hang I hang out with George 544 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: and most but um I brought Georgia on stage with 545 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: festivals from Liz to you know, Emily, all of them, 546 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, everybody that's there. I obviously share wonderful things, 547 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: but I don't text them. I'm not a great texture. 548 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm learning because that's all the younger generation does, and 549 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I've got lots of younger generations. Carla, absolute pleasure to 550 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: talk to you, and we'll talk to you again. This 551 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: was This was fun. It was really fun. I had 552 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: a great time. I love talking about the Gilmer Girls, 553 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: and it really is. That's why I love the Van festivals. 554 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm there, I'll go whatever, and I 555 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: just you know, I'm watching the shows for the first time, 556 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: and they're so good. They're so good it's blowing my 557 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: You asked, next time, what is the show that I've 558 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: been watched, I'll say, and I can't how many people 559 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: that I've run into in Malibu even and then you 560 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: know what I did during COVID, I'm like, no, what 561 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I got? I bench watched gilmar I feel good. I 562 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: have fans that tell me they've watched at least one 563 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: episode a day to this day. Every day. Yes, I 564 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: whoa okay, but my husband was so because he's a 565 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: wonderful actor. He's an amazing artist, but he would always 566 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: joke with me because, so, what's the line this week? 567 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: Does Laura like get a new refrigerator? You know you 568 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: have to realize that, you know, they weren't like heavy duty, 569 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: although they were, but you know, it was kind of 570 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: funny that you know there would be something that was 571 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: because it was life. You know. I worked with Tom 572 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: Hanks on The Burbs and and um, I think it 573 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: was one of the first films. I was the first time, 574 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: and he just always did something in a gesture or 575 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: whatever that was so true to life. You know. It 576 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: was like, that's that's what makes it. You know, it 577 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: just is it's just getting that everyone can relate to quality, 578 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, and in that skilm are girls too, and 579 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: that really is and all the wonderful actors and acting 580 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: very special, very special little world. That was, Um god, 581 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to do more. I wonder, 582 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: I wonder wonder if Netflix. Oh, by the way, the 583 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: other thing that I said, my younger daughter who's now 584 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: like she just shot Batman. She's like all of them, 585 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: but she was this this avid reader. She went to 586 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: Vassar and she read all the time, so Dan and 587 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: I would you know, orry reading all the books and 588 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: he goes, just what are you reading now? And you 589 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: know we have all this stuff that you know we 590 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: could be because she was worried. That's who she was, 591 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, amazing more. I have no idea. I'm sure 592 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: everyone would love it, but you know, maybe, you know, 593 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: just an hour or two hour movie. I don't know. 594 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just so hard to get everybody together. You 595 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: know what? We should do another season? Why not? The 596 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: Netflix thing was fun. I'm too old. I just celebrated 597 00:34:50,440 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: my seventies. No way, are you serious? Wow? Oh my god, wow, 598 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: um listen, thank you so much for your time. And 599 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: I know you uh, you're out there in Malibou. You 600 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: probably want to hit the surf. Yeah, that's where I'm 601 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: going next. You got you know what I'm actually doing next. 602 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: You will not believe it. Five. I have to go 603 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: down and say goodbye to my wonderful ups man as 604 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 1: a surprise because he's retiring. He just was the best. 605 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm going. Wow, Malibu a little bit 606 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: like stars Hollow with the beach, and I'm taking my 607 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: two a half year old granddaughter, Layton Phoenix, who was 608 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: born after the horrific another story, Woolsey fires that destroyed 609 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: my neighborhood. My husband and I stayed and fought the 610 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: fire and saved her home and um but every during COVID, 611 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: I'm taking her out, walking her around the neighborhood and 612 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: nobody's here, but the ups may would come by and like, Hey, 613 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: that's what I'm That's why I said I had an appointment. 614 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: They're really important things these times. They are Carla, you 615 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: definitely get best Chair award. I love that. You should 616 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: see the room. Sometimes you check out Lee McCloskey, um 617 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: L E I G. H. Mcclowsky dot com or age 618 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: Lee J. McCloskey. I'm sitting in a room that you 619 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: will freaking not believe every most amazing, mind blowing thing. 620 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: And we have events before COVID and after, well not 621 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: after uh Gilmer Girls, because I did other shows. When 622 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: I retired, we started having events at our home. I 623 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: would have four or five events in my home open 624 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: to the every week. People thought I was nuts, But 625 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: people because is that is Lee your husband. He's gorgeous. 626 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: I know he's I was like, oh my god, what 627 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: in the worlds He's like a movie star. I'm like, 628 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: he's an amazing actor and has a huge resume. Blah 629 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: blah blah. The picture that comes up is as him. 630 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: He's gorgeous and he always has oh my on everyone listen. 631 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Met him my first day in the business, my very 632 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: first day as an assistant director trainee, and he was 633 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: the star of this show. How long have you been married? 634 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: Forty five years? I think, I mean we've been together. 635 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: We're married. Everybody listening needs to do this. And we're 636 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: not google part and we have a nuts and family 637 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: that's seen in the better part, an amazing home, an 638 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: amazing garden. I'm blessed every day. I'm like, thank you, 639 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: thank you. Oh my god, what this guy is a 640 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: legit babe. Wow, now he is? He is you see 641 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: his talent. I mean he's brilliant. Absolutely, this is super cool. 642 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: The colors are incredible, amazing. So oh, Carla, we can't 643 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: wait to have you back. Thank you so much. That's good. 644 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Carla, good catching up. Good to see you. 645 00:37:52,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Than Hey, everybody, and don't forget 646 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast 647 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: and Emailie at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. 648 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: Oh you gil More fans. If you're looking for the 649 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: best cup of coffee in the world, go to my 650 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: website for my company, scott ep dot com, s c 651 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: O T. T y P dot com, scotty p dot 652 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: com Grade one Specialty Coffee. Yeah.