WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Oxnard Vibes 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:06.800 and the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:07.240 Football Club. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:10.119 Boys. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:17.160 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.640 World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Darry Church, 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.280 Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.159 Hello ahead, Welcome to the Players Loud sponsored by Tostitos, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.720 the official chip and Dip of the Dallas Cowboys. You 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.839 are now rocking with the best. I'm heckm Harrison and 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.559 joining me at the desk is my boy BC is 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.440 in the house. And wow, he Key's back. How do 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.360 they get How do you get back in this place? 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.400 Do you even know how to find this place anymore? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.400 D mac is in the Danny McCrae is in the building. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.200 Look at that, Look at that box down there in 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.600 that beautiful in that beautiful what do you. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.080 Call the new dog? 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:03.560 The new dog dog, new dog at the bottom. Newing Sdrugs, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.880 the eleven time Emy winning Yeah, Humble Bragg always in 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.480 the building. Newing Sdrugs is in the building. This is 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.160 the Players now, the guys, I start the same way. Hey, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.400 when I'm running things, I gotta ask the same thing. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.199 How you mind? Man? How you doing? 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.920 I'm doing amazing? You know today was a great day. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.600 Went on the golf course a little earlier today. Man 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.520 it shot a seventy eight. I mean too many cats 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.360 doing that. Man, I shot a seventy eight and I 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.480 got witnesses. I got witnesses. You know how people like 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.640 the pencil with the card if you buy yourself. I 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.560 got witnesses seventy eight today. I mean for the career, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:36.480 best you were, best you do. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.160 Let you be getting a lot of suns. Okay, how 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.440 do I hear that say? I'm gonna play golf. I 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.520 don't care if it's one sixteen or not. I'm gonna 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.000 be out there. I'm playing. You know, only certain friends 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.840 can compliment you on your team. I got hey, I 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.040 know he went knowing. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:52.640 How you doing? 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:52.880 Brother? 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.639 I'm eleaked? Man? 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.920 I am elitd Okay, what shoes you got on that? 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:00.480 Man? 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.400 I know you're trying to hide. Yeah, check your shop? 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:08.000 We checking you. What shoes you got a newie? He's 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.160 not gonna show him what you got all. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.919 Newe dude, I got on George sitting here at the desk. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.639 Okay, you want to take my shoes off. No, No, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.880 we're not gonna make you do that new it. But you, hey, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.360 you are don't believe you? Yeah, now you don't believe 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.000 that you got the bromos. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.600 Hey you're there in camp, man, you gotta be our 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.160 eyes and ears down there. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.880 What is the vibe like right now in ox? 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.120 Now, wait, let's just stop because you got. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:47.560 Okay, okay, all right, see right there says see that 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.160 that's pressure five man. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:55.359 Michael Jordan's yes, goodness, gracious man, geeze man, I love 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.320 to see. Why aren't getting hazed on this ship? Why 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.680 am I getting hazed on this show? Okay, here we go. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.320 Mike McCarthy was asked about Ezekiel Elliot because Jerry Jones 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.320 has said on radios early as today that you know what, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.200 there could be a possibility of Ezekiel Ellie. Mike McCarthy 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.320 when he talked to the media, shut it down, saying, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.960 they've got these younger players here. They want to see 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.000 what the younger players have and if you bring back 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.120 at Ezekiel Elliot, that starts to cut into the reps. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.600 And then also we spoke about the financial aspect of it, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.799 because look, they got these younger players outside of Tony Pollitt. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.799 They got these younger players on cheat deals, so they 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.800 want to see what's going on with them. So if 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.000 anybody's thinking about Ezekiel Elliott coming back, that's not happening. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.800 And know by the way they already gave his number away. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.160 Oh man, that's rough wing where somebody give us a 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.720 number way that quick. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.840 But I know you were driving up yesterday to Oxnar, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.920 so you didn't really get to catch that that full 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.760 padded practice that they had the other day. But from 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.720 from you just being there now, I see the players 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.080 in the background warming up for practice. What is your 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.760 feel like about the first round, Prick Mazzie Smith. I mean, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.320 I've seen a lot of reports out there. It seems 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.840 like he's dominant the trenches early and often what you 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.160 would love to see. But what is your vibe around 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.760 camp and what is he looking like so far early 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:07.400 in this camp? 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.040 So when I get done with you guys, the person 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.640 I go immediately find is Nate Newton, and I watch 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.040 practice with Nate and I just we just start going 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.520 down and looking at the different offensive and defensive lineman 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.000 and so that is what I'm going to go do. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.200 Stand next to Nate Newton and the next player's lines. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.640 I will have a full report for you because Nate 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.479 does not miss when it comes to these offensive defensive 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.920 line because he knows exactly what to look for. So 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.360 I go find Nate because he's my Yoda when it comes. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.640 To these guys. So is Nate the same? 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.320 Has he given you any feedback on the offensive line 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.320 so far? Because you don't have Zach martinair, We're still 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.680 figuring out about Tyren Smith, Like, how are we looking 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.640 on the offensive line? Because I've been reading that the 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.000 defensive line has been dominating you know in camp. Is 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.520 that because the defensive line is just that good? Or 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.719 do you see our offensive line that struggling trying to 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.000 figure out what rotation we're going to be in especial 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.240 So with a new offensive line coach, I. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.880 Think it's a little bit of both right there. I 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.119 mean this this defense is good, Okay, the defensive guys. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.160 Talking to Lake vander USh yesterday, vander Rush mentioned Super. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.279 Bowl ok goodness, and yes, yes he did. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.720 He went there to bring it up. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.800 Okay, he talked about Super Bowl winning a championship. Mike 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.480 McCarthy today said he's never had a team with this 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.000 much defensive line depth. This is a guy who's won 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.800 a Super Bowl in his career, who's had a team 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.599 go fifteen in one of the regular seasons. So when 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.200 you see that this defensive line is having, you know, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.120 a little bit of an edge on the offensive line, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.239 that's nothing to be shocked at. You saw the video 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.240 yesterday when Michael Parsons went past Tyres Smith, and Tyres Smith. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.040 You know, I mean, what a good look for him. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.760 But that's how great Parsons is and you got a 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.320 guy on that defensive line. So this right now looks 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.640 like a strength of the football team. Where we get 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.440 done with practicing to be able to put more eyes 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.400 and look intently at the defensive tackle position because I've 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.680 got to be able to stop the run. And also 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.720 when I sit down and talk today, I'll ask him 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.880 about how much further along is this defensive line versus 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.200 the offensive line and looking and seeing it where guys 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.239 are your man's Josh Ball is starting at right tackle 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.640 right now, place Zack Martin, So we'll see hooda. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.279 Hey, I've never seen you know, Tyron Smith look like 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:16.920 that in the practice. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.800 I'm saw you guys all see the clip where you 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.400 know Parsons, which the guy's a beast, But I've never 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.640 seen somebody kind of just hip toss Tyron Smith like that. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.560 So that's gonna be a battle at camp that I'm 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:27.719 looking forward to watching. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.479 But hum, what do you know? Okay, you're looking forward 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:31.839 to see it. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.359 We just watched. Let me tell you something. I watched 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.599 the fight on Saturday night. Okay, so no, I'm not 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.160 looking no, No, I just. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:41.880 Wanted to stay healthy. That's not what I want to see. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.560 It was. We're depending on Tyron Smith to be our 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.000 starting left tackle. That is not what I want to 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.000 see as we're in camp, all right, I don't want 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.279 to see anything that could possibly get you injured, because 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.400 those are movements that could possibly get you. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.640 It is up. It made you cringe when you sign 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.560 number seventy seven. Go everyone, I don't want to see that. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.880 It's not happening today. Okay, guys, I guarantee it's not 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.839 happening today. Wow, Because Mike McCarthy said they're gonna bet 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.640 michaeccrty said they're gonna have tiring. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.640 Just an individual today already. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.080 Looks good though, man, to tell you, right, now, guys, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:16.680 he looks good. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:17.920 Guys, looks good man. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.119 We don't heard that so much. But we're talking about 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.280 back to back to Mike mccarthur. You have mentioned him 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.400 a little bit ago. Do you feel that he's he's 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.600 feeling the pressure because this is a huge year. This 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.680 is a huge year for Mike McCarthy's taking over play 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.720 calling duty, and he's basically saying, Hey, I'm gonna put 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.560 it all on my shoulders. If I go down with 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.000 the ship, I'm gonna go down swimming, swimming, swinginging. Do 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.800 you see or do you feel any pressure with Michae 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.000 McCarthy going into this year. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.160 No, I don't. I really don't. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.520 I think Mike McCarthy would a better play caller than 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.040 what they've had the past couple of seasons. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.160 So I'm not that worried about it. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.000 Look, this is gonna be a team that is a 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.640 defensive football team. They've got to figure out exactly how 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.960 they want to mix other people. Antony Pollard run the football, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.760 and if Brandon Cook stays healthy, they're going to have 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.240 some weapons here. I'm not really worried about the play 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:08.720 calling that. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.480 I'm just not I mean, Mike's done this before the 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.600 guys won a Super Bowl. Here's the interesting thing. Okay, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.000 Sean Payton call the plays. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.960 Everybody praise the Sean all day long, as they should 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.680 because he's really good. But Sean Payton, you start to 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.640 look at his win loss record, super Bowl wins, it's 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.600 right there on McCarthy and they do the same thing. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.320 It's just Mike is not this guy that plays to. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.040 The media and talks and gives you all these great 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.920 sound bites the. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.960 Way Sean Payton does. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.360 But I just think some of that is almost amount 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.680 of disrespect the act like this guy is just some 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:36.680 bum off the street. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.560 The guy's a pretty good play called his career. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.360 Guys, I listen. I believe it. Mike. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.280 I've been asking fun to call the players since he 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.400 got here. Okay, show us what you learned in the lab. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.480 We know that the game has changed a little bit, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.439 soins the last time you have call plays, and now 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.640 you had an opportunity to come in and show what 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.640 you can do. And now everything is on you. It's 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.920 on you and your quarterback. And I think that's how 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.440 Mike wants it. So I'm excited to see what looks 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.400 like once we get into the seasons now a preseason game. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.559 I'm just excited to see Mike McCarthy call plays in 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.280 live action. And the thing is, we've been talking about 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.280 what Mike McCarthy's playing offense is going to look like, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.360 and we hadn't seen it in three years so far, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.480 so him getting that opportunity. Schottenhammer got interviewed yesterday. He 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.000 talked a little bit about the offense, but I think 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.600 what we all want to see is the weaponry bringing 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.120 Brandon Cooks, but you know that you're gonna need more 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.760 than that to complement CD and Michael Gallup. Guys like 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.640 Cavante Turpin. We haven't talked about him, but I think 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.960 all last year, because of that deficiency with the wide receivers, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.160 we were looking for a playmaker. How what are your 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.600 expectations for him in this offense and with Mike McCarthy's players. Well, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.880 for me, I believe you know Cavante Turpin, he's one 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.560 of those explosive guys that when. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.199 He gets the ball in his hands, anything can happen. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.120 I mean, we've seen he's a Pro Bowl returner out there. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.480 We could see what he can do with the ball 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.880 in his hands. I was surprised last year he didn't 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.360 get more opportunities, whether it's a jet suite for kind 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.800 of a screen, just to get the ball in his 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.080 hands in open space. And I'm looking forward to seeing 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.880 him getting more opportunities in this Mike McCarthy offense. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.320 I can see him being that fourth receiver. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.760 That gadget guy. They may line him up in a 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.440 backfield next to Tony polor something like that. So I'm 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.040 interested to see what he can do this season. But 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.040 he is explosive once he gets the ball in his hands. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.559 I don't feel the same. Oh all right, I want 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:20.880 him to be a returner. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.720 I want that to be what he focuses on and 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.760 what he does. Okay, cause we always get to this 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:26.560 thing where we're like. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:27.800 The more weapons the better. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.400 Nah man, No, you got you got lu CD lamb Yap, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.760 who's gonna demand the rock? Okay, you got Brandon Cooks 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.600 who is gonna demand the rock? Okay, you just drafted 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.880 a tight end in the second round. You got Tony 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.439 Poler who's gonna demand the rock. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.400 We don't what with f fourth receiver? What we just saying? 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.160 And so No, when I when I'm looking at I'm saying, 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.120 if we're talking about we're gonna run the ball as 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.360 much as Mike McCarthy has said we're gonna run the ball, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.280 then I don't see us getting down to the fourth 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.360 receiver being that type of uh, having that type of 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:57.240 impact on this game. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:57.839 I'm with you. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.200 You you you need to have the top two, which 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.760 is gonna be Brandon Cooks and Cede Lamb. You got 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.000 Tony Pauler, who you're paying ten million dollars, and then 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.360 your quarterback. All right, how's your officer line? 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.240 Look? And work through those three? And I think you'll 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.920 be okay? What about you? Man? 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:12.400 So okay? 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.240 So here's the question I have, based on what you're 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.040 telling me, Danny, how many touches a game combined? Do 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.120 you see Cavante Turpin at Deuce Vaughan happening for the cowboy? 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.559 Which it will make you feel comfortable. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.839 You know what, if Duce Vaughan really breaks into that 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.760 roster spot to where he's used as a weapon, I 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.199 would expect them to see maybe ten. But I'm saying 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.720 seven and three offensive with Vaughn. I would say Vaughn 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.400 gets the majority of those carries, because, like you said, 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.400 we're trying to figure out how many reps Tony Paula's 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.199 gonna be able to get. I can see Duce von 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.760 being a person who can spell Tony Pollard way more 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.640 than a guy like Cavante Turpy can. So yes, gadget 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.040 plays if you run a speed sleep double reverse, stuff 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.520 like that, you throw Turping in for something like that 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.439 are to be a to disguise, and it's trying to 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.360 trick the defense. But other than that, I'm not seeing 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.040 them on the field as an offensive threat that much. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.920 He had an opportunity last year. Then you saw t 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.080 Y Hilton come in and then beat the guy at 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.360 the end when when Turping was already. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:11.520 On the roster. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.480 So it's something that they're seeing or something that he's 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.480 not able to do that that that they're just saying. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.920 You know, we're gonna go to a guy like Duce 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.160 Vaughan and see what we can make happen. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.079 And Louie, I think you got a better play caller now, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.880 you gofer disrespect. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.800 He called the same place for t Y Hilton to 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.520 get get open and h you know what I'm saying, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.640 to catch a big time pass. So I'm not gonna 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.959 put that one on killing I put enough on killing 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.560 Moore as far as you know his effect on the offense. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:40.000 Yeah, noui yea. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.600 I was gonna say that, you know, during OTA's I 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.560 kind of have to thought watching both of them play, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.720 knowing that the only way that deuce Van can make 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.440 the team is also his contribution on special teams. So 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.319 that's also going to be as a returner in some sense. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:59.240 How does him and Cavante turfing coexist in that lane 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.560 when that's been in How Covante has got his claim 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:02.960 the fan. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.760 That's the thing that's gonna be difficult because to me, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.600 you got a Pro Bowl return. I mean, how many 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.200 times did we watched last year. We're like, man, he's 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.640 that close. He was that close to breaking a big one. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.920 I mean, I think you got dynamite in his hand. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.920 So I wouldn't mind him staying at that return spot. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.400 And duece fan like, like you said, he can be 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.959 that kind of gadget guy screen guy, because look, no disrespect, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.360 but we know he's not picking up any blocks. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.840 I mean, he's not picking up through I think that's 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:28.720 just not gonna happen. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.320 So for him to be on the field, he's got 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.840 to have to either have the ball in his hands 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.120 in some instant or kind of be a distraction. And 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.240 I can see him having that type of role, But 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.840 as far as spelling Tony Pollat, I'm not sure sure 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.200 because we don't we don't have that that bell cow 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.560 back right now, because not even Tony Pollard is really 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.439 that bell cow back. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.320 He's on, you know, fifteen to seventeen touch kind of guy. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.079 We don't have a guy that can go in there 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.839 and give you three clouds in the three yards in 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.520 a cloud of dust and keep things moving. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.800 So we'll see how the cowboys do with that. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.199 Let me and let me tell you that's okay. I know, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.280 I know it's bad. Duvon his father Okay is up 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.040 there telling him, Hey, man, watch what the pep's doing 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.600 on the personal protectors doing on punt team. Okay, figure 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.720 out what you can do on punt return team to 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.800 help Turp and get free right. How versatile can you 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.360 be because if Turpin is gonna be here right and 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.120 you need to be here too, and y'all battling for 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.000 the same spot, then you have to be able to 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.440 do more things right outside of being a returner. So 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.760 I expect them to see if he's on the roster, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.280 I expect them to see him making some tackles, running 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.440 down there is I. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:32.160 Expect them to see. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.440 I expect to see him doing those type of things 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.680 versus being a returner. Know y'all gotta ask you, man, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.360 you've been down there, you just got there. We talked 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.520 a little bit offline about Jerry Jones comments. Uh, he's 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.560 been talking to the media. He's talked about a current 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.120 player and a former coach. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:50.720 Man. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.720 You got to give me your thoughts on what he 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.640 said about Zach Martin and also this saga that's going 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.680 on between him and Jimmy Johnson. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.920 With the Jimmy Johnson soag. I go back into last year. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.440 When I sat down talked to Jerry one on one 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.600 and I called it petty. I actually said that Jerry, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.200 this is petty and Penny continue. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:09.760 I don't know. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.800 It's because Jimmy wrote the book, and Jimmy wrote a 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.000 whole chapter on he and Jerry his book Swagger, and 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.960 Jerry didn't appreciate it. But for him to come out 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.080 and say that Jimmy's not the only coach that deserves 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.680 consideration for the Cowboys Ring of Honor and then ask 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.160 the follow up like, well who, and he's got nothing. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.280 That just tells you the petty and its of where 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.920 we're at here. And that's sad to see because those 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.160 two gentlemen revived the Dallas Cowboys franchise and it became 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.600 of the team of the nineties, and the fact that 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.000 Jimmy's not in that Ring of Honor, it's a shame 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.800 that Jimmy had said in the interview to me, He's like, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.320 you know what, if Jerry just put me in, it'll 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.320 all be over. You know, you just put me in 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.520 one day and just be done with it. So I 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:47.840 don't know why Jerry keeps doing that. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:48.240 I don't. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.840 I mean, do you think it'll it'll happen though, I mean, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.120 we've gotten to this one. He's been inducted into the 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.360 Hall of Fame. Every time someone asked him a question 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.160 about it, kind of dances around it, but ultimately the 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.320 power is here is to put him in the Ring 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:01.720 of Honor. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.640 Do you think it happens. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.560 Right right now? 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:05.960 No? 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:06.800 Right now? 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.720 No, this is the second year that we've asked about it, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.680 and he's duck his heels in even more. I mean 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.240 to come up and say, well, there's other coaches who 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.640 there is no the's. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.080 No one else. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.560 No, you're not going to put Barry Switzer in the 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.880 Ring of Honor. You're just You're just not You're not 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.960 putting Barry Switzer in the Ring of Honor. I'm sorry, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.720 and I know he was a Super Bowl winning head coach, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.960 but come on now, if Barry runs up in that 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.320 thing with with a blue jacket before Jimmy Johnson, Mary 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:39.640 may get booed out there cowboy fans and should get 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.120 booed at. I mean, come on, it's just it's just stopped. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.680 I mean, you know, what are we doing here? It 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.440 doesn't it doesn't make sense. And they have the media 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.280 party tonight and I'm sure he'll probably get asked about 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.480 it offline as well, like come on, man, what are 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:54.880 we doing? 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.160 But we'll see the guy's talking about. A guy that 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.480