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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's a total eclipse on

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Speaker 1: our hearts Kill.

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Speaker 2: Me from the Chris Westland podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dad, hands us back from vacation.

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Speaker 2: Got heroes here, Greg Roseenthal and Mark Sessler. Yes, we

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Speaker 2: just did see the eclipse, or did we?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I looked up at the at the sun directly from

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Speaker 3: you mustn't Mark. Yeah, but let's say your eyes are

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Speaker 3: like your eyeballs will be singed and burned out.

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Speaker 4: That's not the case as far as I know.

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Speaker 1: Right see where we are, Oh, you are bleeding from

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Speaker 1: the cornea.

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Speaker 4: Other than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Otherwise, fine.

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Speaker 5: Dan motivated us to go. We we sort of missed

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Speaker 5: the peak of it, but we were about to start taping.

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Speaker 5: It was time, so we went up there, and unfortunately

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Speaker 5: we realized it's possible to be in a group of

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Speaker 5: thirty five NFL media employees and we didn't know anyone.

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Speaker 1: To ask for their glasses problem. So I went I

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Speaker 1: I was a little ahead of you, guys. I made

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Speaker 1: a straight B line looking for literally one person I

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Speaker 1: knew here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I like the conduct that in a dangerous visual setting,

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Speaker 3: we would just take other people's glasses. Well, just ask

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Speaker 3: for them, you don't need them with Well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the three of us back together for the first

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Speaker 2: time and what well over two and a half weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we are also closing in on the draft. We

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Speaker 2: are taping April eighth. The draft is April twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: I can't get you. And it's just a simple shit

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Speaker 1: seventeen days away.

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Speaker 2: Masterful, right, masterful numbers work by you. My eyes actually

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Speaker 2: are bothering you right now. I'm seeing seeing some splotchiness.

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Speaker 2: I did do a look up, did not have the

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Speaker 2: first day of school, today's episode special one. It's an

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Speaker 2: annual tradition on around the NFL free agency, and it

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Speaker 2: was a very strange free agency this year, or maybe

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Speaker 2: it's the new normal. Well, we'll have to see, but

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Speaker 2: very aggressive teams are more aggressive this year. They got

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Speaker 2: going earlier players that usually or the types of players

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Speaker 1: Jadavin Clowney is a perfect example.

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Speaker 2: Instead of lingering on the market into late summer, got

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Speaker 5: The first time he signed a multi year contract since

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Speaker 1: That is a fact.

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Speaker 2: So just like the way the machine worked was different

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Speaker 2: this year, so the annual Graybeards exercise, which is pulling

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Speaker 2: together the best roster of thirty and over talent. There's

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Speaker 2: doing a week later. Although how many names came off

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Speaker 5: Things that iowe Vanoy is the only one we might

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Speaker 5: have lost. That's it early it.

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Speaker 2: But coming up a little later, we're going to put

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Speaker 2: together that Graybeard's team and also just back in on

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Speaker 3: And this is the first time that you've allowed, Greg

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, this is going to be a collaborative

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Speaker 3: I see what you're doing though, because it's it's going

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah it and looked at this list of players,

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Speaker 3: Let's get Greg and Mark involved so we can point

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Speaker 2: The assumption that when I was in Maui, I looked

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Speaker 4: I'm going to call in some help. That's exactly what

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Speaker 1: That would be way too much credit. It's actually a

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Speaker 2: I did not look at it beforehand, but I just

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Speaker 1: But before that, let's do some news.

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Speaker 4: Well, Marvin Lewis is an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Before I went away on vacation, that's it all sound drop.

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Speaker 2: Yes, while you were in Hawaii, Greg, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Where is in the top fifty? I mean, I mean

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Speaker 5: I believes it after Alaska.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was at the right time.

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Speaker 2: It came about icebox up there in Alaska pass streets,

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Speaker 2: and number one there was the states actually are Alaskan listeners,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have much to do like they would

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Speaker 3: Weatherwise more than beautiful other forty nine states.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful in terms of beautiful in terms of nature.

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Speaker 2: Up in Alaska, we got the pipeline, so we got

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Speaker 5: Perspective, Yeah, he'd be very valuable, right, Yes, Sarah Palin

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Speaker 1: See Russia from her right yard. But Hawaii, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Mark, Well, I'm glad the two of you enjoyed your

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this.

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Speaker 2: Oh but what I was gonna say was, before I went.

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Speaker 1: On my vacation, we ended our podcast with Connor Or

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Speaker 1: after a very eventful week for the Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: podcast with a Mark Sessler top ten drops, and I

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Speaker 1: was many people reached out to me angry that that.

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Speaker 4: Drop, Well, Marvin Lewis is an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Was excluded, and I just want everyone to know that

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Speaker 1: Like, I feel like it's safe to say he was

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Speaker 5: He is back in the league, he's an assistant head

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Speaker 1: I was vaguely tracking it from a bungalow.

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Speaker 2: there's a non zero chance that Digs isn't a big

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Speaker 1: That's the whole setup here.

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Speaker 1: They have the franchise tag.

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Speaker 5: They also have exclusive negotiating rights from basically now until

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Speaker 5: It's just why are you worried about all this stuff

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Speaker 3: year right situation for Houston, And from that angle, like

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Speaker 3: the money aside, way, don't worry about the money. They've

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Speaker 2: Say yeah it. It has been an ongoing source of tension.

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Speaker 1: Would you not even a cent? Oh? Really no, but

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Speaker 3: No, then then it takes the onus off of management

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Speaker 1: We was just call each other cheap the whole time.

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Speaker 3: No, I strongly just a little alligator arm action. Who

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Speaker 1: You do?

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Speaker 2: You are in many ways? You're handed out a lot

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Speaker 2: that was unfair. You really added the context that was

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Speaker 4: I corrected you.

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Speaker 5: He was and I apologize, Okay, Stephan Diggs was lucky,

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Speaker 5: is not that popular of a player relatively. I don't

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Speaker 5: I just don't care that much about it, and neither

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Speaker 1: It's fine. I think it's like a year or something.

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Speaker 2: And I want to give Digs a little credit because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's a little pop for digs in a big spot.

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Speaker 1: Greg. Do you have your Kyle Duggar jersey? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I only own one jersey. Ever. I think I've only

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Speaker 3: Although I would not say it was one of those officials.

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Speaker 5: It was my parents not getting me a jersey. It

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Speaker 5: never happened. Yeah, oh they were like that's too much.

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Speaker 2: The ones, get a T shirt, you could get I mean,

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Speaker 2: The Patriots continue to light up the imagination of the

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Speaker 1: He's twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: But Gregie a lot of and.

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Speaker 2: I just did it a little bit too, a little

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Speaker 5: I look at the method that Ron Wolfe used to

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Speaker 5: And it's just a coincidence that the few good young

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 1: On top of it all, their defense looks good on paper.

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Speaker 3: They haven't had a Q rating this slow since like

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Speaker 5: No, there's not a lot to get excited about in

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Speaker 2: It's bringing players back. The news wasn't all bad for

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Speaker 2: It's a ninety six million dollar deal, market included over

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Speaker 1: You're paying them as an elite player.

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Speaker 2: I don't have mega takes about Derek Brown whether he

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Speaker 3: I would say that like he from a physical perspective,

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Speaker 4: And this is a team with no first round pick.

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Speaker 3: You moved on from Brian Burns, DJ Moore, your toy,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what you explosion in terms of the

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Speaker 1: Jordan Mailata. In other news, the International Pathway Program to

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Speaker 1: Fire Yeah Thriving, we talked about the new Chiefs potential

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Speaker 4: The felling a highway than a pathway at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, a highway paved solely by Henry Hotchon with gold,

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Speaker 2: sports fans because we all watched it during the pandemic.

444
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: We're all kind of in a like a drugged state

445
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 2: in a way, some of us literally some of it

446
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: was just the whole thing. You remember twenty twenty in

447
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: a hazy manner, the last dance, the Jordan doc rewatching.

448
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: With my sons.

449
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 2: It's a little salty language in parts, but overall they're

450
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: fascinated by this Jordan figure.

451
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: It's like Babe Ruth for these kids.

452
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 2: The dream Team opened the doors for international play for

453
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Speaker 2: the NBA. And now, like, like you follow the NBA

454
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: closer than either Mark or I. Like the percentage of

455
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Speaker 2: like star players in the NBA, what is it like

456
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Speaker 2: thirty or forty percent?

457
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Speaker 1: Or from overseas now or.

458
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Speaker 5: The last handful of MVPs? Yes, Jannis. And then because

459
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Speaker 5: I'm first team NBA, Yes.

460
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Speaker 2: It's a totally different league now than it was thirty

461
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Speaker 2: years ago. Jordan Malatta is the shining star of this

462
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Speaker 2: international movement. A left tackle at the Eagles, drafted as

463
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Speaker 2: a seventh round pick, he didn't have really he had

464
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: very little experience with football, as a sport, but had

465
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Speaker 2: the tools, and then they got him trained up and

466
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: he learned the game and became a dominant tackle at

467
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Speaker 2: one of the game's most important positions. So he gets

468
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Speaker 2: paid a extension that is three years, sixty six million dollars.

469
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Speaker 2: He remained a top level tackle last season. He hasn't

470
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Speaker 2: been greg a scene by people who vote for things.

471
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Speaker 2: He's never been a pro bowler. That surprised me through

472
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Speaker 2: me never been an All Pro. But anyone you talk

473
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Speaker 2: to the Baldies of the world say nothing but big

474
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Speaker 2: time positive things about my lotta So another no brainer

475
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Speaker 2: to keep.

476
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Speaker 1: In your building. A PFF star too, always in the

477
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Speaker 1: top five to six. What gives lots of them? My

478
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of bias?

479
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Speaker 5: Maybe people were just like, we're giving too many eagle

480
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Speaker 5: offensive linemen on these awards, because you know what, if

481
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 5: it's a hotchedon bias Kelsey and Lane Johnson and some

482
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Speaker 5: Hank bias have dominated it, you're right.

483
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Speaker 1: Sometimes offensive lineman people are a year or two behind.

484
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Speaker 5: Now they're really behind on my lot of where they

485
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Speaker 5: get the Pro Bowls a little later than you expect.

486
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Speaker 5: Kelsey and Johnson, by the way, uh starred at WrestleMania

487
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 5: over the weekend showed up. Kelsey was very involved in

488
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Speaker 5: a little attention. I mean, these guys, they got so

489
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Speaker 5: much talent. Jordan Mylotta is also famously a great voice.

490
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Speaker 5: Uh you know, did a bang up job on the

491
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Speaker 5: Kelsey Christmas album and also a great around the NFL

492
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Speaker 5: guest remember that, Yeah.

493
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Speaker 2: Our super Bowl. He was legitimately a great guest. In fact,

494
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Speaker 2: I legitiate you should get him back on the show.

495
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Speaker 2: We should try his hand. I think Henry can help

496
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Speaker 2: us with that.

497
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Speaker 4: His hand was as big as any of our computer screens.

498
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Speaker 4: That's what I recall.

499
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Speaker 2: Most of your analysis today, Mark's just based on the

500
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Speaker 2: sheer size of the humans involved.

501
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Speaker 3: He was a stunny because like, you know, you get

502
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Speaker 3: us like and then you got like Derek. Henry came

503
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Speaker 3: on that same week, and my lot of it's just like, oh,

504
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: these are gigantic people and I don't want to I

505
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: don't I'm done with these groups.

506
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Speaker 2: When we when we do these remote shows and we

507
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Speaker 2: have the guests on, Mark does not like to be

508
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Speaker 2: next to the giant player.

509
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Speaker 3: Typically it's I enjoyed meeting them and stuff, but it's

510
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: like that's that's not a winning photo op in my opinion,

511
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, you're four feet shorter than this defensive.

512
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: Time, we should start photo shopping the photos and make

513
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Speaker 1: you taller than whoever's there.

514
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: Stupid, very Kyles Garrett was a tough, tough scene for

515
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: I couldn't even speak that to you. That was I

516
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: think he thought I was from another part anyway.

517
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Speaker 5: I like this is why the Eagles stay good though,

518
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: as they get ahead of things on these contract Extentially,

519
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 5: they also paid Landon Dickerson this offseason. So not only

520
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 5: did they bring in a lot of people, and you think, okay,

521
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 5: Kelsey's retiring is it got to be a big transition

522
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 5: for this offensive line, and they've planned ahead pretty well.

523
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 5: They draft Cam Jurgens, they have a third round pick

524
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 5: Tyler Steen, who's ready to go. It's like they just

525
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 5: invest over and over and over. And that's why for them,

526
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 5: like a bad season is nine and seven or falling

527
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 5: apart late to go eleven and six, whereas you know,

528
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Speaker 5: for most teams, bad season is in the New England Patriots,

529
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Speaker 5: what happened to the life.

530
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Speaker 4: Yes, but the future of the tush push remains enigmatic.

531
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Speaker 1: I love that.

532
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: How the Eagles stay good. The football agna SCENTI, hey,

533
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: big guys. Ability to completely washed the end of last

534
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: season from memory is.

535
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Speaker 5: I just not a relative scale. Their strategy was clearly

536
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 5: pay for linement. I agree with you the ball and

537
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 5: that's worked in the long run.

538
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Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying overall. But that was

539
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: a historic meltdown.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
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Speaker 2: I know when I listen, we're supposed to now turn

542
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Speaker 2: the page and everything's fine again.

543
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: But I still have questions. It has been pushed from memory.

544
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: It has been pushed from memory, I think a little bit.

545
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: And I'm with you because you still have the same

546
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: head coach, and people are talking about, like, you know,

547
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: the personality there in Dangel.

548
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Speaker 1: I don't like it.

549
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Speaker 5: That's why we need you, Dan to be the truth

550
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 5: teller from now until week one that they're gonna stink.

551
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Speaker 1: I don't believe it did. Here's the thing.

552
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying that, but it seems as hey,

553
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: something we've decided. No, we've decided that that didn't happen anymore.

554
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: So if I have to be the person that say, like, oh,

555
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: the Eagles have done it again, Oh this is how

556
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: the goods stay good, and like oh man the Eagles

557
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: are killing to this offseason. Someone has to say they

558
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: also had one of the most unbelievable collapses in recent

559
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 2: NFL history.

560
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: And they kept the coach and they kept the quarterback.

561
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Don't they're running it back again.

562
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Speaker 3: I don't think it would be care to suggest that

563
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: you're the only go find didn't melt down, Go.

564
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Speaker 1: Find it, Go find it anywhere on the internet is.

565
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Speaker 4: I will I will take I will take a look

566
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Speaker 4: after the show.

567
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: You know who did it? That Bradley Cooper with his charm.

568
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: He wiped it all him and Lurally working together.

569
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Speaker 5: It was a tough It was a tough winter for Cooper.

570
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: The Eagles fall apart in the same way that his

571
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 5: his Oscar hopes that movie.

572
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: Has there ever been a more like bald faced attempt

573
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: to win an Oscar?

574
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Speaker 1: Cooper, get back to what you're good at. Get out

575
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: of the luxury suite. Stop. Did anybody see that thing?

576
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: I watched it?

577
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: I was I think I mentioned this on one of

578
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: our like suggests something that you've watched.

579
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Speaker 1: We're not giving you a trophy because you got a

580
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: fake nose.

581
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: I openly could not stand it, but then I thought

582
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: about it a lot afterwards made me think, and it

583
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: was a very strange, but it was it felt like

584
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Speaker 3: Oscar bade to me, which has worked for him in

585
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Speaker 3: the past.

586
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: We know that much about him. Why are we still

587
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: talking about him?

588
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you guys talk about the Jets

589
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: getting a son Radick? That was a nice movie.

590
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: I thought we were very fair in our coverage of

591
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Speaker 3: nice and praise them.

592
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: I think it led the show nice all right. Eight

593
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: o'clock to light.

594
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: The Chiefs resigned Mike Danda to a big deal. You

595
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: know who else is? Clyde Edwards, Claire Returns, I Greg,

596
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: I have to say coming back is one of the

597
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: more the underdog tails of the first round.

598
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Speaker 1: Well, no one I thought there was no chance.

599
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't think there was a lot of interest in him,

600
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 5: and I gotta say he did make some plays in

601
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: the stretch run and he only was given the ball

602
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 5: like three to five.

603
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Did anyone ever seem more da as a first round

604
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: pick after like two years old, when they were telling

605
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: you to drop them first overall in fantasy as a rookie.

606
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: Took him a number eleven overall. Anyway, the voters shoot

607
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: down the stadium bill. By the way, for the Royals

608
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs, which tough, tough spot for the Chiefs,

609
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: who coming up back to back titles probably thought they'd

610
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: get that bump. They did not, so there's a lot

611
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: of uncertainty around that situation. He got blown away too,

612
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: like it wasn't close.

613
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: And I think it's tough for civic groups of people

614
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Speaker 3: to suggest they're going to pay for these things at

615
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Speaker 3: this point.

616
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: Man, it's old news now.

617
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: It used to be the way it was. Draft prospect

618
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: DeAndre Sweat gets a d WI. My goodness, it made

619
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: me think of Dak Prescott getting a DWI two days

620
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: after his pro day.

621
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Speaker 1: He dropped down to the fourth round.

622
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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens with Sweat, who was supposed to

623
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: be a first or second rounder. The Culture assigned Julian Blackman,

624
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: the Dolphins sign tay R Tart and Kyle Van Noy

625
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: goes back to the Ravens.

626
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Gregory three players that were in my top one oh

627
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: one and only three left total in the top fifty.

628
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: Segue, Yeah, up next, graveyards.

629
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Speaker 6: Grave beards. We're gonna say the day day, grave beards, just.

630
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Give us one last say lest.

631
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Speaker 7: Say we're here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch or

632
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 7: follow hitch don't mean I cannot play and you will

633
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 7: see me leave the way, will.

634
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Away?

635
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 8: Grave Bears never go away, never go away, never away,

636
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 8: grave bet never been away.

637
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: There goals my hero.

638
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 9: Watch him as he goes there goals my rule.

639
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 6: He's over thirty.

640
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: The gray beards are back. We've been doing this exercise

641
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: how many years now?

642
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Ten years? Sometimes about singing that song? What a song?

643
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: It's getting better.

644
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: It's like the I'm what I'm hoping for is the

645
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey Christmas song bump where it just charts every

646
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: year on the same time.

647
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Who is your greatest influence as a vocalist.

648
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Dave Grohle, Maybe, but maybe role adjacent. So let's go

649
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam a little Eddie Better. I've gotten your one

650
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: of your favorite bands, the National have gotten that in

651
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: the past.

652
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised you didn't bring greg in for some

653
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: sort of a singing role there, because Gregor is a

654
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: renowned now former singer.

655
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: That's true.

656
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: In fact, last year, I think you might have had

657
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the last line, and I apologize for taking that from you.

658
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: I think you've done it the right way, and now

659
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: I do think you know now that I'm a member.

660
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Of the organization. The controversy. Okay, let's get into it

661
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: that we've had over the last year.

662
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 5: You know, the graybird Graybeards that you know, many groups

663
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Speaker 5: were saying you should play that song and the national

664
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 5: land them at your games, and I say no, this

665
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: has replaced the national anthem for the Graybeards.

666
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: This is their anthem.

667
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: Yes, you have said that before, and I'm glad that

668
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: you've said it again. This year is a real tough

669
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: one because, like I said at the top of the show,

670
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: teams have been more aggressive and as a result, when

671
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: you look through the list and you guys, like we

672
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: said earlier, change it up this year.

673
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: I used to write this as an article on the site.

674
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Now we're just talking it out as a group and

675
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: going through it, and we're going to land on some

676
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: things together. Perhaps if you guys, maybe I could serve

677
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: as a bit of a tiebreaker in certain situations, but

678
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: in general, I'd like us to kind of build this

679
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: team together. It's not going to be easy because there's

680
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: a not a lot on the bone, not a lot

681
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: of meat on the bone. And I want to say

682
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: one other thing before we get going that this has

683
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: always been Yes, the players from the Graybeards have to

684
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: be turned either over thirty or turning thirty before the

685
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Like the NFL, the NFL makes changes to

686
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: their product every year, and I've been resistant to ever

687
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: change the gray Beard's process. But you have to go

688
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: with the times because of the lack of options, because

689
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: of the way the NFL views skill position players, especially

690
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: running backs, where thirty is basically the retirement home. But

691
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily what this is about. When they get

692
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: to that second contract around twenty eight, I was thinking

693
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: that's when running backs wide receivers will throw tight ends

694
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: in there as well. So I'm changing the guidelines for

695
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: those three position groups. Or I could just keep it

696
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: to wide receivers and running backs. Let's do that twenty

697
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: eight at some point in the season. It makes you

698
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: a gray beard, because that's really the way the league

699
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: is now.

700
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: Greg, I don't think this is going to change my

701
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: picks much at all. To me, it's just there aren't

702
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: many free agents available, whether they're twenty eight or not.

703
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 5: I do think it's gonna mess up how the song

704
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: goes that it'll be interesting. They're over thirty except for

705
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 5: running back and tight end with your twenty eight you're.

706
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Gonna work on give me a chance. They'll work that

707
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: lyrically and find a melody to.

708
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: I think, also Verre, it's inclusive because we've always had

709
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: that friend in their twenties who suddenly had white hair

710
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: or you know, when they went pray or white much earlier,

711
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: and they probably feel not part of society in some way.

712
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: And this says you are part of this operation.

713
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 5: I don't know who these twenty eight year olds are,

714
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 5: so I'm curious to you throw it.

715
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: It didn't change the list much for me. Yeah, in

716
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: terms of like an earthquake level.

717
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: And I'll just real quick because usually I look back

718
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: at the graybeards the year before, and as I usually

719
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: say before we get into it, there are players that

720
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: are available now to any team that will play a

721
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: big role for teams in the upcoming season. And that

722
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: is true. But I'm looking at last year's team and

723
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: you didn't see a lot of that.

724
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: So last year I'll just go real quick.

725
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: At quarterback, we had wentz in Bridgewater at running back,

726
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: McKinnon and Latavius Murray. At wide receiver, Odell Jarvis, Landry,

727
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: Julio Jones, and T Y Hilton at tight end, Mercedes

728
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: Lewis and Cameron Braidt. You know, if you really want

729
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: to know, the lion was Donovan Smith, Roger staffle Ben Jones,

730
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: Gabe Jackson, and Taylor Lewan on defense.

731
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm really hurting David Clowney not being a graveyard.

732
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: He has been a graveyard more than he's not been

733
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: a graveyard in his career. Last year was Clowney, Leonard Floyd,

734
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Frank Clark, and Justin Houston. I mean, these are name

735
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: brands that you're just not going to see in a

736
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: lot of cases this year. Somehow, Dominican Sue was on

737
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: our interior line. Last year, Quintin Jefferson, Shelby, Harris Matthew, Iinidis,

738
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: Anthony Barr, Marcus Goldman, John Bostick at linebacker. It feels

739
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: like some of these guys are already ancient history. They

740
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: never got that chance those graveyards. And then in the

741
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: secondary Marcus Peters, Bryce Callahan, Byron Jones, William Jackson, Robbie

742
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: gold was the kicker. I retired Andy Lee at punter.

743
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: So that was last year's team. I didn't hear a

744
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: lot of guys that actually had big years from that list.

745
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: If you guys can throw any do you hear any

746
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: of there that.

747
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: Their names did in a big years?

748
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Though Clowney had a good year, Oh clown one of

749
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: his best years. Yeah.

750
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: Donovan Smith, you know, started the Super Bowl at left tackle,

751
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: so that was an effect.

752
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: Soue did a lot of sky Sports covered.

753
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: The offensive line in the defensive line was doable.

754
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: All right?

755
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: Wait, who was the quarterback? Lusher?

756
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 2: Quarterback was when let's start there? So Wentzon Bridgewater. Joe

757
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: Flacco was out there. Isn't that crazy? He was out there,

758
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: was not even selected for a fake football team. So

759
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: let's start with the quarterback position this year because it

760
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: is not in a great spot.

761
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Greggy, I think we all agree.

762
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill, aged thirty five, is a perfect guy to

763
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: slot in. First time gray Beard. Yeah, so welcome to

764
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: the team. But thank god Tannehill didn't get signed in

765
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: the last week or so, because where are we going

766
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: if Tannerhill goes down. He's had injury issues.

767
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: You don't have to go to like Blaine Gabbert, Trump

768
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: or Simeons. So yes, there's a steep.

769
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: We do need to keep him healthy, you know, Teddy Bridgewater,

770
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: I think it's familiar with my appreciation of him over

771
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 5: the years. You know, he's known as a leader, a coat.

772
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: He's becoming a high school coach. I would be willing

773
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: to offer him even more money than that high school

774
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: could possibly be given to bring him back, to bring

775
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: him back as a backup and coach.

776
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he can.

777
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he was starving interviews about it seems like

778
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: it's breaking the rules though, Like, here's.

779
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: The thing, Eddie's three years. We all love that Eddie.

780
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: But Teddy was given interviews into the Detroit media in

781
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: like early December saying like how excited he was to

782
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: leave the NFL. It was like, dude, you're the backup quarterback.

783
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I think he's going on to a different days in

784
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: his life. I kind of threw out Brian Hoyer because

785
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: he is a good locker room okay, dude, but I

786
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: mean he can't play anymore either.

787
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: It's very rough. We'll take coiir as the backup.

788
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: I think over do you have backups or are we

789
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 3: just because yeah, we all laid I believe in Tannehill.

790
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: I think he provides the right kind of spark for

791
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: this locked and loaded QB one.

792
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: Maybe one of the best qb ones we've had in

793
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: this exercise. Isn't it also crazy that Blaine Gabbert is

794
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: thirty four years old?

795
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: Though well a lot of these names would make all

796
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 3: the three of us feel and he's been much older

797
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: than replaced by last year's Graybeard Carson Wentz, So that

798
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: might spell the end of Gabbert's.

799
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: Although he was with the Chiefs and if Andy Reid

800
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: thought he was a sound backup or a good option,

801
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: should we perhaps go with Blaine as the backup Bruce.

802
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 5: Arians The reason they wanted him there, apparently was because

803
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: Mahomes especially was obsessed with Tom Brady and just wanted

804
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: like Tom Brady's backup to like, you know, that was

805
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: part do we want that?

806
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: I mean, there's worse. Do you guys think there's worse reason?

807
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried to Tanna Hill.

808
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: That's a really weird explanation, but.

809
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: Well, it was part of it. They just thought, like

810
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 5: you know, he was around him for a couple of years.

811
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: They called Drew Bledsoe first, and they're like, Julie want

812
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: to be my backup this year?

813
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: So all right, should I put in Blaine? Tannehill also

814
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: had some rough rough moments last year.

815
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, behind a terrible offense, some other.

816
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 5: Games where he looked looked better. All right, let's put Gabbert.

817
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: He's a handsome guy, too.

818
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Very good looking.

819
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: He'll he'll pop in the team photo. All right, running back.

820
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: So this is where again I had to make that

821
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: a change that it changes things because Ezekiel Elliott is

822
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: in his age twenty eight season, A lot of rumors

823
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: connecting him going back to DALLASA. It's being floated out

824
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: there by certain people. What are you laughing about that?

825
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: I we could call this the Zeke rule if we want. Yeah,

826
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: it's funny that you changed the rule to get Zeke on.

827
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: Although he does feel like a graveyard, and I think

828
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 5: he literally does have is a g think he has

829
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 5: some gray in it. I I just assumed he was

830
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: over thirty without decades. So that's why I'm laughing. A

831
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: lot of miles I wrote. I wrote his name down

832
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 5: without even check.

833
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that.

834
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: The original age boundary clipped him, and it clipped guys

835
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: like Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook. But I guess now all

836
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: these people are back in the conversation.

837
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 5: It's funny because I had the same two guys we

838
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: had a year ago, Yes, Us Murray and Jarek McKinnon.

839
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, let's get by with that. So I had,

840
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I had, I said, Zeke and Kareem Hunt, but we're

841
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: gonna lose.

842
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna seek in a couple of weeks.

843
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: That's the one problem here, right, No once you once,

844
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: they're Graybeard forever.

845
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, that's an important distinction that I always have

846
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: to lay out there.

847
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying you think that, but you also listen.

848
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna put up a stop

849
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: sign on Cream Hunt.

850
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: He looked woe for last year.

851
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 5: He also had his off field issues for a fake team,

852
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: we can keep current and his three three yards per

853
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: carry off the list. He did not look like this

854
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 5: Kaream Hunt. To me a year ago, it looked like

855
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: the he might have suddenly kind of hit the cliff.

856
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: For I'm fine with that. We could let Kareem walk.

857
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: I will say, just from because you're being very analytical,

858
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: and that's important.

859
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: Greg.

860
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: You're looking at it's not as West always said, it's

861
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 2: not just about the name, it's the game.

862
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we also put some we gotta put some

863
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: meat in the seats. Yeah, but kaream hunts. Now I'm saying.

864
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: That I get that he's on the ticket. You know,

865
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: he's on the.

866
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: Meat in the seats like a lot of buttocks in

867
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: the in the in the chairs, like a lot of

868
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: sad Patriots fans.

869
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 5: I will defend the Zeke era in New England that

870
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: I'm sure people weren't like. He's obviously doesn't have the

871
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: greatest explosiveness ever now, but he was Okay, I think

872
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 5: he's just you think he's okay, he's perfect for this team.

873
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: All right, So we're pairing Zeke with someone else though, right, Yes,

874
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 3: I would lobby for Jeric McKinnon.

875
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: And okay, so Greg said that too, So let's let's

876
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: roll with that. Good and just I'm gonna and these guys.

877
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: He can he can also tell us about what it's

878
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: like to win a Super Bowl that multiple times.

879
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.

880
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: Here are some other options, so we said to Zeke, Boston, Scott,

881
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: Damien Harris just retired.

882
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: Cam Aker is not eligible.

883
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: He's only twenty four whoa uh dare Agon Boalle Poor JK.

884
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Dobbins is out there still, but just twenty five Matt

885
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Brida is an option for us. Rashad Penny is an

886
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: option for us. He's got to be under thirty as well.

887
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: He is.

888
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: I like what we've I like what we've cooked up here.

889
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: Tavius Murray is thirty four.

890
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 5: Otavius Murray has had a strange career where he never

891
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: seems to age and always like is better than the

892
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: younger people around him.

893
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: But I like so.

894
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 5: Jeric makes the JJ Dobins by the way, as a

895
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: guy I would be intrigued about. As an NFL team.

896
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: I know he's I mean not serious injury, but I

897
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 5: think you'd be worth a shot.

898
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: All right, Wide receiver here we go a lot of options.

899
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna lead with someone who is a graveyard last

900
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: year for the first time and again meeting the seats.

901
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: You need somebody On the cover of the media guide

902
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: it is Odell Beckham Junior, once again leading the wide

903
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: receiver group. Anybody disagree that, well I don't disagree, but

904
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: according to the rule that he's on, he's on, I

905
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: would say, yes, absolutely.

906
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: You want to sell the tickets. Children and adults alike

907
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: would be fascinated by the concept. Uh, you know, he's

908
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: linked very heavily to the dolphins right now.

909
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Would children it's been a long time since the catch

910
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: at the met Yes, sell, you could.

911
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: Sell it about you're not pretty and tod he still

912
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 5: sort of has a here's with Odell right in the

913
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: catch and there and there's some highlights you can go back,

914
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: but yeah, him and Tannehill.

915
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a bigger picture of Odell.

916
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 5: It's like he's got the big face and then Tannahill's

917
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 5: maybe a second face.

918
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: That's the other way.

919
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 5: I think that's the cover of your guide because that's

920
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 5: a real quarterback.

921
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: People know.

922
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: But in the eighties they would do the family pictures

923
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: were to be the profile the child's head and then

924
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: the pose of them together, like holding blocks.

925
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: I do that with like people in their cats, Like

926
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: there's a second circle where the cat is looking in

927
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: a different direction.

928
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: We got big funk behind the glass. Who you know.

929
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: The stuff this guy can do in the edit is remarkable.

930
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: It's phoen I thought you're gonna talk about his cats,

931
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: because there's not an animal that Randy Shaves is not

932
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: taken care of in the entire animal planet.

933
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about cats, but we can have a

934
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: separate save it for the Feline podcast, Randy, if you know,

935
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it off off Mike, But we

936
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: want the old nineteen eighty three perspective shot. And then

937
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of in the distance. Maybe it's a little

938
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: phased out a little bit like it's not as clear,

939
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: and then in the foreground it's some type of like

940
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: action shot something like that.

941
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good anyway.

942
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: Odell, I'm gonna throw out Tyler Boyd, who's uh twenty

943
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: nine years old.

944
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: You guys think about Tyler Boyd.

945
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think this rule is you know, I don't

946
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: know why this rule exists if we don't use it

947
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: to get the younger player that still has upside.

948
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 5: I thought he turns. He turns thirty during the season,

949
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 5: so you don't even need the rules. Good either way, solid,

950
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: you know this rule. Maybe coming off his worst year,

951
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 5: but he still had six hundred and sixty seven yards

952
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: in that year. He just seemed like maybe the contract

953
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: situation was bothering. He did some mental error, some drops.

954
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 5: Well we don't love that though, but a nice slot receiver.

955
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 5: I mean he's I think this is our strongest position

956
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: group on the teams.

957
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Upside.

958
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: I like that here, and I think we got to

959
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: add a little spice to this. I think we got

960
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 5: to bring in Michael Thomas.

961
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: It's time. I haven't come home to the graveyard a

962
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a locker room lawyer. We want a

963
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: locker room lawyer in the building.

964
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: It's a fresh start, though, And there is this like

965
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: what if he stays healthy and he doesn't have this

966
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: eighteen by.

967
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Guy's not looking too bad by the way. No, we

968
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: have a guy that has the catch record. We have

969
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Zeke was one of the most famous, uh you know

970
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: NFL players of the previous decade.

971
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have of Ryan Tannehill carried to multiple episodes

972
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: of Hard Knocks.

973
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: That's true.

974
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 2: And also when you get Ryan Tannehill, you get Lauren

975
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: Tannehill as well.

976
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: You do, yep.

977
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: I would say for especially for you know, fans that

978
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: have been in a coma for two and a half

979
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: three years, like this looks like an I.

980
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: Would push back in terms of the locker room lawyer aspect,

981
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 5: but I think we're looking forward to social media is key.

982
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 5: If things go wrong, he'll keep like all attention is

983
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: good attention, And I think Michael Thomas will keep us

984
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: in the news right.

985
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't like that Saints element bringing it into my building.

986
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: But I understand Thomas is someone that you want to

987
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: bank on, maybe giving you a little and he's got

988
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: he's got it. He's a name brand. So I'm with you.

989
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm just a little worried about it. We just lean

990
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: into the markets. We need a strong base in terms

991
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: of leadership, all right. I also I'm going to add

992
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: a fourth receiver here. I know Thomas we're gonna put

993
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: in the slot, but I also like Hunter Renfro in

994
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: the slot here.

995
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: Well, you now you're using the age rule for what reason?

996
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: What do you mean although he has been balding for

997
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: a long time, he's older than you take like he's just.

998
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: His hairline was hurting on hard knocks as a rookie.

999
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: So yes, he he'll he'll fit in, uh visibly. But

1000
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: also I know you you waged a war against Renfro

1001
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: early in his career, Greg, and then he fell out

1002
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: of favor with the Raiders that felt like the last

1003
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: couple of years. But he's still just this is his

1004
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: age twenty eight season. I want to I'm gonna put

1005
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: him up. Is there someone else that you guys are

1006
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: I want MVS.

1007
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: On this team.

1008
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: I think we got the slot handled with Boy and Thomas.

1009
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: I want some speed.

1010
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 5: It's pretty rare to have a graybeard with some deep speed.

1011
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: He's quiet all season, but in the non existent playoffs

1012
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: that the Graybeards have never made team, he always he

1013
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: comes up big in the playoffs.

1014
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Vs. What do you think?

1015
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 4: Very frustrating player.

1016
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: But that's not going to be on like three quarters

1017
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: of our roster, so that fits right in.

1018
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: You m VS.

1019
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: Over Renfro for you. I thought Renfro was already in it.

1020
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: We're picking our one. We have Odell there, but Michael

1021
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Sterley Shepherd. I don't know, like that gets ugly Markus Goodman,

1022
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: I'll go MVS.

1023
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: I just want to I'm okay with that. You know

1024
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: who actually had this.

1025
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: I think it was the second highest percentage of snaps

1026
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 5: of any available wide receiver free agent that was over

1027
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 5: thirty was Alan Robinson. I was like, Wow, Alan Robinson

1028
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 5: played a lot for the Steelers last year, but I

1029
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 5: do not feel like bringing in Alan.

1030
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is not on this team. He can't and

1031
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Julio Jones caught a pass in the playoffs last year.

1032
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: Do you remember that thirty five years old for the

1033
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, it's the thing that happened. Yeah, he

1034
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 5: was a graveyard last year. Randall Cobb is out there.

1035
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 5: You know who else is out there now? Not Graybeard

1036
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 5: eligible even under the Zeke rule.

1037
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: But Chase Claypool is not employed anymore, and I don't

1038
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: know if he's going to get employed anytime soon. Like

1039
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: he might be in the whatever what's the you know

1040
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: for COCTA Spring League called it now ufl like he

1041
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: might have to go re established the brand at this point.

1042
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: And to think that the Bears surrendered his second round

1043
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: pick for him two years ago, it's crazy.

1044
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: That gets washed away in the current hype.

1045
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: I went to confirm that Julio Jones caught a pass.

1046
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: He cut three passes in the playoffs. Hell, yeah, you're

1047
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 5: wondering how far that Egos offense fell.

1048
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: All right, do we have to take a break where

1049
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: we're due for beggar. Let's take a break and then

1050
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: we'll get through the rest of the graveyards roster. Right,

1051
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: So so far, so good, I have to say. I mean,

1052
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: when you look at the offense, now, let's it's let's

1053
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: get to tight end. There's there are some options here.

1054
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: The one that kind of jumps out to me is

1055
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Logan Thomas, thirty two years old with yepj Ozama is

1056
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: coming up a bad knee injury. He is on the market,

1057
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: Bobby Tanian's out there.

1058
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 4: How do the real health situations factor into this?

1059
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: They factor in? Okay?

1060
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: Well, I love Logan Thomas as an option, been productive

1061
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 5: throughout his career.

1062
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Do we want Jimmy grahmm on that media man an injury?

1063
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 5: I you know, we keep bringing back Marcedes Lewis, and

1064
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: so does the NFL. He's now forty to have a

1065
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 5: forty year old gray beard, pretty cool, pretty exciting.

1066
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: I I yeah, i'd Lewis. We can put him on

1067
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 3: the coaching stuff, not with Jimmy Graham. I think Jimmy

1068
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: Graham is better for the for the media guide.

1069
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Does Jimmy Graham put me in the seats? I don't

1070
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: know at this stage.

1071
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: He did release a He had an Instagram post a

1072
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: few weeks ago that seemed to sound retirement ish. Uh,

1073
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 5: just kind of like, hey, the end of the season

1074
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: was quick, didn't didn't get a chance to thank everyone

1075
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 5: for like a fun year in New Orleans. I think

1076
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: Logan Thomas and I like Marcedes Lewis as their backup,

1077
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: just like Kee.

1078
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: Is he turning forty this year?

1079
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: He's forty. Yeah, that's specialist. I think that that that

1080
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: has a nice get something pieces and some nice It.

1081
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 5: Was literally drafted with Grace Jones Drew. No mj D

1082
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: is always talking about him. He mj D says he's

1083
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 5: still a player in the league. It's it's cute, let's see,

1084
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: let's see kicker. Uh man.

1085
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: I really wish I could put Robbie Gould down here,

1086
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: but I think he retired, didn't he.

1087
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he fits for this like he did

1088
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: if someone didn't even this last year.

1089
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: But as he filed his paperwork, I'm just asking questions

1090
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: as one must.

1091
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did. I think we talked about it.

1092
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Big Boned Randy is out there.

1093
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a special We have a special bond.

1094
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: With Big Bone. Yeah.

1095
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't like him as a kicker well and his

1096
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: zaft take figure. I like, I relate to it. I

1097
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: feel like it's something he battles. But he also has

1098
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: now been kicking for about ten years. He's getting the

1099
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: full pension and this is a way to say you've

1100
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: battled through a lot of adversity, Come on in.

1101
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: Like your other options are, like what Brett maher like,

1102
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm with you, like fat, Randy's been an

1103
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: art or Randy.

1104
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: Pulletsho whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1105
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: That's what the nickname was.

1106
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't exact that day on our show.

1107
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: To be fair, he's slimmed down. He's gone up and

1108
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 5: down over the years.

1109
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: Now that I'll have to see him in the hallways,

1110
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, inside the team complex. That would probably shy

1111
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: away from calling him though.

1112
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 5: It's also a connection to Chris Chris Westling. I feel

1113
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 5: like he had a lot of opinions about Randy Bullock

1114
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: back in the day.

1115
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got a kick out of his figure.

1116
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah he's rubenesque, and that just I like, yeah, I

1117
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: like that.

1118
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: That's good.

1119
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: I think it's important for our team to embrace all

1120
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: body types as well. It's a good message. Body inclusive

1121
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: is a big thing now, So welcome Randy. All right, punter, punter, punter.

1122
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys. I was like literally

1123
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: looking for punters. There is not a point to search stops.

1124
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: As far as I can tell, there is not a

1125
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: punter who punted the ball in the NFL last year.

1126
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: That is a free agent that is over thirty. Yeah,

1127
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: but how about this we I did.

1128
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: We don't punt. We don't punt. That's a that's you

1129
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: could get fans involved with that one. I could be

1130
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: like searching it wrong, but I don't think so. I

1131
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: don't think there is an available. I have an idea

1132
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: had a punt.

1133
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: Presley Harvin again, body diversity inclusive, but he's quite young.

1134
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 5: The Steelers cut him.

1135
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: If you go to open the cap all these sights now,

1136
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: don't enlist one of these.

1137
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: There is not a punch I'll thrown out there. Sewn Lindetta.

1138
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: Okay, what did I literally write on my screen? Sean Lenarretta,

1139
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: who's sixty two? Okay, lets Dan, that's how legends are

1140
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: made when you're team building. We both have, Shawn.

1141
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 5: Is why I was pointing out to Mark last week

1142
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: that it was tough for him when Dan's out of

1143
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: the out of the state.

1144
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: Shawn Lendetta, sixty two.

1145
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: We both thought of Sean Lindetta.

1146
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: Somewhere, Poppy is smiling on the brown couch, drinking his

1147
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: root beer, not talking to me. All right, Shawn Lendetta.

1148
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: Welcome to the gray Beard's. Hopefully he's staying in shape.

1149
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: All right, offensive line.

1150
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: We'll keep an eye on the waiver wire in case

1151
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: anyone loses a job in camp elsewhere.

1152
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw out just what I put it projected

1153
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: the line, and if you guys want to replace anyone,

1154
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm totally open to it. Right tackle Billy Turner, right guard,

1155
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: Cody Whitehair, center, Connor Williams, left guard d J. Fluker

1156
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: and bringing in David Back is a perfect gray Beard

1157
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: at left tackle.

1158
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: I had back Ti Connor Williams as well.

1159
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: Well. Connor Williams is like twenty seven.

1160
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that's why.

1161
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: Well young Oh okay, get okay, get rid of Connor.

1162
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he's got he's twenty six, he said.

1163
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 4: I thought he was.

1164
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm thinking another hold on. There's multiple Connor McGovern.

1165
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern is only thirty and offensive line for the

1166
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: New York Jets in the last three years.

1167
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 5: Because I actually had Lake and Tomlinson maybe as one

1168
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: of my guards, the tackle position might be the best

1169
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: on the roster. I take it back from the receiver. Andrews.

1170
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 5: Pete played quite well late last season at left tackle

1171
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 5: for the st typically a guard, but typically a guard,

1172
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 5: so you could play him at guard or tackle. But

1173
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: I'm a little surprised he's still out there. And then

1174
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 5: Donovan Smith, I mean he wasn't lighting it up, but

1175
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: he did, you know, start for the Super Bowl Champs

1176
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 5: and most of the season for the he stepped in

1177
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: for it. He was okay, No, he was there all year.

1178
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right right, I'm thinking of the right tackle. Yeah,

1179
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 5: he left, he was injured, and then he came back.

1180
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 5: Uh so, who did you have it as your left

1181
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: tackle before? I had good though, I like, yeah, I

1182
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: think he's that's he's putting.

1183
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: The people are like they want to know what's next

1184
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: in his journey.

1185
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 5: I think it's the draft that's keeping these guys out

1186
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 5: there because compared to other positions, I was like a

1187
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: number Charles Leno is another one. I was like a

1188
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 5: number of these guys could actually play meaningful NFL snaps

1189
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: in the fall, and I don't see that at many positions.

1190
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: We want to where there is like five or six tackles,

1191
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 5: do we.

1192
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Want to kick down Ivan Smith to right tackle.

1193
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: I think it's that it's that type of versatility that

1194
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: we'll look at who we put in the pivot.

1195
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 5: I guess BOCKERI but he hasn't stayed healthy too often,

1196
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: you know, bro the pivot center.

1197
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: I think Connor McGovern.

1198
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: You got to get in the term terminology if you're

1199
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: going to be a true front office head.

1200
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: Connor McGovern was thirty third ranks the pivot.

1201
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening as pussy as I should have.

1202
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: Lucas Patrick.

1203
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: One of my favorite it like tropes of people talking

1204
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: ball like about the pivot.

1205
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: Who's in the pivot? Okay, let's put Pete in at guard?

1206
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: All right?

1207
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 5: We got Bachtiari and Donovan Smith attack on yehs going all.

1208
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: Right, so we'll put Andrews Pete. These guys.

1209
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: You had, I like that, Cody at right guard, and

1210
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: then who's in the pivot? There weren't many.

1211
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: I think Connor mccovern, all right, he's thirty years old.

1212
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 5: Again, Lucas Patrick, I looked at a man Tyler Shatley

1213
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: just for the name is we clearly were the.

1214
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: Quarterback is going to be shatleeing his pants when we

1215
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: were sifting through the same software.

1216
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, justin Pugh as a man who had some social

1217
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 5: media excitement last year, Giants when he said he was

1218
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 5: straight off the couch. Uh as the as the team

1219
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 5: that he played for on Sunday Night football, I believe.

1220
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: So that was exciting.

1221
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: All right, let's move off the line before people fall asleep.

1222
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: All right, how about the defensive line? Okay, who are

1223
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: putting on the edge?

1224
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited to get Jerry use on the team

1225
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: we played three, four or fourth.

1226
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: I would say, we are you could you could go

1227
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 3: four to three here if you want to get four.

1228
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 5: I think so too. Emmanuel Ogba's still out there. Yeah,

1229
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 5: I think Jerry Hughes mayort uh Emmanuel Agba. But Dupre

1230
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 5: was in a weird system.

1231
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: You know.

1232
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: Our friend Henry Hodson pushed back on me a little

1233
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: bit that I had Agba in our in my top

1234
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 5: one oh one when when Xavi and Howard wasn't there.

1235
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1236
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 5: I'm just like Agba always used to be good and

1237
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 5: then he didn't really fit in the fan geo scheme.

1238
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe Melvin Ingram's never disappointed when he signs with

1239
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 5: the team halfway through the season. Justin Houston somehow unique

1240
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 5: last year, somehow unique andwa is not old enough to

1241
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 5: qualify still yet he's been in the NFL for seventy

1242
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: three seasons.

1243
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: But who's putting their hand in the dirt? Well, both

1244
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: the dressers. Yeah, I'm trying to use terminal. Who are

1245
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: the d tackles?

1246
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: Uh Klais Campbell?

1247
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's a great one thirty eight.

1248
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: Uh oh, that will leave you concerns about Michael Thomas

1249
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: because Campbell will keep that.

1250
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: He'll keep it, He'll keep them in.

1251
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 8: Well.

1252
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 5: I think we haven't gotten to our coaching staff, but

1253
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 5: there's some pretty good names available.

1254
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: But I think could really keep the discipline on. Did retire?

1255
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 3: He's a British tell he did not get a job

1256
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: this year.

1257
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: So is he still hanging spending summers with Leaca on

1258
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: the plant? Lawrence guy who.

1259
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: Famously made the All Decades team for the Patriots in

1260
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: the twenty ten.

1261
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: Somehow, William Goldston is out there, Jordan Phillips.

1262
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Campbell and Guy as my picks at

1263
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: defensive tackle.

1264
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: But uh, it's not a strong group. Yeah, I didn't

1265
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 4: have a lot of listener.

1266
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: I think Campbell Campbell will help up the weakness of

1267
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: the other A linebackers. Anthony Barr. Barr was there last year, you've.

1268
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 5: Got Zach Cunningham came in and played some snaps, Kwan Alexander.

1269
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: It's not a strong like Kwan there positioned Nick Vigil.

1270
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: It's a bunch of guys who keep getting signed like

1271
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 5: late in the mix, and they fill in it. I

1272
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 5: think the linebackers making a comeback in the NFL of

1273
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 5: teams realizing that they're important, and the lack of lack

1274
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: of names available might spell that out here.

1275
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: All right, So let's go Bar Alexander and what gives

1276
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: one more Cunningham Cunnyham.

1277
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Jack Leonard is too young for this. He's not with

1278
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Italy though.

1279
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: I've lost many many Chack Leonard's not turned twenty eighth

1280
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: this year. Well we're doing this with Well, you're right, right, yeah,

1281
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: I take that back, right, you're right, all right. This

1282
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: is where I've lost many seasons. Is in the secondary

1283
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: we are too Solon. I don't hate this group.

1284
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: It's ironic.

1285
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 5: Whereas that, you know, I think I keep saying it now,

1286
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 5: this is the strength of our team. I think the

1287
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: secondary is how could that be? How could there be

1288
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: why impact makers in?

1289
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: It could be draft related to But there's a couple

1290
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: of guys and they're like thirty thirty one, Like you

1291
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 3: got Stephan Gilmour's out there.

1292
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 5: Gilmour and Steven Nelson are two guys who play. You know,

1293
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 5: Steven Nelson was a lower level but played starting cornerback

1294
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 5: at a pretty high level last year.

1295
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: I love Gilmore, Savi, you and Howard. Oh that's you

1296
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: need three corners right? Oh yeah, okay, who's who were

1297
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: playing in the slot. Well, they're also experienced that we can.

1298
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: We can put Howard in three all sorts of strategic

1299
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: chaos for the We.

1300
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: Put Gilmour on an island and say good luck one

1301
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: more year. Yeah more riot Son, Yeah, just leave.

1302
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: On an island.

1303
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 5: These are some reasonable players. Though, by the way, Doy

1304
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 5: Jackson does not qualify, but he's a reason.

1305
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Whenever we could leave a thirty two year old cornerback

1306
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: on an island, gotta do it sixty minutes in today's there.

1307
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 5: But you know what I'm I want to play a

1308
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: lot of zone because, you know, because of their age,

1309
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 5: and also because we've got good safeties.

1310
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: The safety position that's always flushed in this exercise.

1311
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 5: Justin Simmons is like Gilmore's thirty three, a recent All Pro.

1312
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons.

1313
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 2: Gilmore's turning thirty four in September by week two, Okay,

1314
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: but he was playing well all right, Yeah, we're definitely

1315
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: playing zone.

1316
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: It's still quality player and I mean lucky other was

1317
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: It's the NFL or wherever we play in twenty twenty four,

1318
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: we got to be they're gonna mix it up.

1319
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: I got to mix it a mix up. Yeah, the

1320
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: scheme is fluid. It's not the old days schemes fluid.

1321
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Don't try to put us in a box.

1322
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: If they get if they join a team in real

1323
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 3: life and get hurt in real life.

1324
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 5: Tell me this safety group isn't better than some NFL teams.

1325
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 5: Justin Simmons, Quandary Diggs, jay Ron Curse, and either Micah

1326
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 5: Hyde or to Shaan Gibson might be retiring.

1327
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: So that how many how many roster spots we have

1328
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: for safety? I don't know. I just usually do too.

1329
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 5: Let's go three because we're gonna play where again, we're

1330
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 5: trying to we're mixing a match and we're playing a

1331
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 5: three safety defense.

1332
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes linebackers are so bad. I want to play one

1333
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: line back.

1334
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: We play four to one, right six, We're gonna do

1335
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: a little sneaky, get a twelve on the field move

1336
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: thatches it.

1337
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: I just think I I want to play. We don't

1338
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of speed. Quandary.

1339
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there, that usually works.

1340
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 5: We don't have a lot of speed. I just want

1341
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: to p vent the big play. I'm going to play

1342
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: six defensive backs at all time, six dbs.

1343
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like let them complete five office.

1344
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like eighteen yard screen pass after twenty yard

1345
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: screen passes?

1346
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: Are there guys that are? We're in my one oh

1347
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: one or close? Who who's our third? Eggs Simmons Diggs

1348
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: And let's go j run curse? All right? Good player?

1349
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: All right? Uh, head coach, there's only one choice. Go ahead.

1350
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's writ in a book right now.

1351
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 5: He was wearing a University of Washington or is it

1352
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 5: Washington University sweatshirt this weekend giving people in the Pacific

1353
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 5: Northwest just the fields, I think because he was with

1354
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 5: his son Steve Belichick out of Washington coaches Clinic.

1355
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Did you watch the game on Monday? Bill Belichick is

1356
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: our head coach? Hell? Yeah that is.

1357
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: And I know that that doesn't mean a lot in

1358
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: the modern league anymore. But for the graybeards, There's never

1359
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: been a more perfect synergy of a man who's been

1360
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: counted out because of his age. I don't tell me

1361
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: anything else. Belichick is the bell of the ball. If

1362
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: he's sixty two instead of seventy two. He has been

1363
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: counted out because people say the game is passed him by.

1364
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: The Gray Beards are here to prove.

1365
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1366
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: It's like when we talk about like a violent Kude

1367
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: Todd in terms of hiring cycle, this would be it

1368
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: because this is someone who could go break down Shoul's

1369
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 3: record as the coach of the Gray Beards and that'd

1370
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: be good.

1371
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

1372
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say these two men, although they seem

1373
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: like they wouldn't be a good fit, they have actually,

1374
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, been on the same staff together.

1375
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: It is men who famously said he didn't come to

1376
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: kiss Bill Belichick's rings. But I kind of like pairing

1377
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Bill with Rex Ryan and oh wow, the rexes DC.

1378
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: Bill's the head coach. It's Bill's defense obviously, but it's

1379
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: a Rex there. You know, Rex famously cooked up Bill

1380
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: in the twenty ten AFC Divisional playoffs.

1381
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: They they can work together and make magic.

1382
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about that that, you know, the

1383
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: team programs and stuff. We've got Rex Ryan and Bill

1384
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: Belichick joining forces.

1385
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: Was he on the Patriots Steph and Rob Ryan? Rob Ryan? Rex? Never?

1386
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh not Rex? He was.

1387
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so maybe Bill might veto that. But and

1388
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to do what other people, UH were

1389
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: unwilling to do. I'm gonna give Bill the final call.

1390
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: Like a Bill isn't comfortable with that.

1391
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you were going somewhere else with this,

1392
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 5: And I kind of like the idea of First of all,

1393
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 5: this is the roster Bills always wanted. Just a bunch

1394
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: of hard, nos intelligent players, old bunch smart.

1395
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: A bunch of progress stoppers. He likes that in the NFL,

1396
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna like it.

1397
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 5: On the behaviors, I think, you know, give a little

1398
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 5: sugar with all the the sourness that Bill gives you,

1399
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: and bring in Pete Carroll.

1400
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: Those are two two of the greatest defenses.

1401
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good call, you know, just to pump

1402
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 5: everyone up.

1403
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: Only have two coaches, we get multiple coaches. I think

1404
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: I think that's the play. As much as I love Rex,

1405
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: I think Bill, who Bill replaced Carol, didn't he once

1406
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: upon a time in New England he.

1407
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: Did, and that that was an agism type thing to

1408
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: the Pete Carroll thing exactly.

1409
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: So I think he's a perfect fit. So DC, Carol

1410
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: head coach Bill, I think we got to give Frank

1411
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: Signetty another chance. I don't see. I think Frank deserves

1412
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: hold Frank gotta be over.

1413
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: What fifty six?

1414
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: I think hold ons? Okay, let's see Frank. How old

1415
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: is Frank is?

1416
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's turning fifty eight, fifty eight, So yeah, let's

1417
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: get him because he got bounced by the pitt Panthers.

1418
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: Right, and that never face.

1419
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: They said he wasn't good enough, probably like looking back,

1420
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: probably agism, I think so. And of course Special Teams

1421
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: coach always and forever Mike west Off, who ooh he

1422
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: trashed No, he didn't trash Belichick. He he was on

1423
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: our show and was annoyed that we were asking him

1424
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: like questions. He didn't want to talk about. West Off

1425
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: tresh parcels in his book, which Belichick's gonna love. So

1426
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: they're going to and they once upon it. I'm coached

1427
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: together on the Jets. So this is an incredible staff. Belichick,

1428
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: Carol west Off, Signetti, let's go.

1429
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 5: And I just just to get the gang back together,

1430
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 5: because you don't hear about him much lately. Let's bring

1431
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: in Charlie white as like a consultant.

1432
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Get him in.

1433
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 3: Charlie consultant, good times, hard to forget Tom Brady.

1434
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: Get him in the building. Not that old, actually sixty

1435
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: eight years old.

1436
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 5: Charlie white Son is the offensive coordinator for I'm just

1437
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 5: gonna put in Jane Kiffin's old miss team.

1438
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: How about that, He's gonna put in captions here. Get

1439
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: him in the building. The coaching staff really changes.

1440
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 5: It's my opinion on this team because before we learned

1441
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 5: I learned about the coaching staff or thought about it,

1442
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 5: I was going to predict ohen seventeen. I did not

1443
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 5: think this team was winning a ball game, not a

1444
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 5: single game.

1445
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: You're telling me can't get hot and the defense defense

1446
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: can't get some.

1447
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: Did they go a year ago? What was the I

1448
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: predicted six and eleven and they went four and third.

1449
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 4: They won four games with Carson Wentz.

1450
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: I believe I put it predicted that they're gonna win

1451
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 5: one in sixteen or two and fifteen last year. This

1452
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 5: team seems worse, But actually after talking through it, it's

1453
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: a little better.

1454
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: Than I thought.

1455
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: I think five and twelve.

1456
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: We gotta keep Tannahill.

1457
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: Healthy no matter what, and we got we got to

1458
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: keep Wiy's health healthy as well. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

1459
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: gonna put with this coaching staff and the chips on

1460
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: the shoulders, I'm gonna put.

1461
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna predict nine and eight that is out.

1462
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 4: That is insane.

1463
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 5: Uh, because of the coaching staff. I think you put

1464
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 5: it in an average coaching staff, i'd be Owen seventeen.

1465
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: I think Bill coaches this. That's so messed up. How

1466
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: many does a great jobs got through all these position.

1467
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: Groups saying oh, this is a great group, this is

1468
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: a really good group, and we're not gonna steal a

1469
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: win with the basic coaching staff like that, I think.

1470
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: Well, there's just a couple of positioned groups that betrays

1471
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: the very nature the exercise.

1472
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: Greg, we're not nihilis here with the gray beards, like

1473
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: we believe in these trying.

1474
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: To be realistic.

1475
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: It's I'd say it's maybe the best secondary the gray Beards. Yeah,

1476
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 4: I've ever had and that was killing them.

1477
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 5: It's a great secondary. Few years ago, I don't know

1478
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 5: where we're getting pressure. I think they're picking on our linebackers.

1479
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 5: The protection we'll see. But if they can't keep Tannehill

1480
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 5: healthy for.

1481
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: Trumble, that is everything starts there, Lily at Zeke twenty seven,

1482
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: we haven't had a consistent pass rusher, by the way

1483
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: since John Abraham.

1484
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: No, sorry, all right, because of the coaching staff.

1485
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 5: I think it's it's a magical season and they coach

1486
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 5: them up to six wins and it's.

1487
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: They Actually he gets Coach of the Year votes getting

1488
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: those six team of eighten.

1489
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 4: I do that today. All right, there you go.

1490
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: That is the the Graybeards of twenty twenty four. Geez,

1491
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: Tannehill ice that ankle, bud ice them both getting the

1492
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: hyperback chamber until training camp. That that's what we need

1493
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: health at the QB position. And I think we can steal.

1494
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: We could steal a lot of wins. All right, We'll

1495
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: take a break and then we'll close things out.

1496
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 6: I'll beg I'm so hungry.

1497
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: We need your help. We need this. Come on, Greg,

1498
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: we are in the future. Would you be my dad?

1499
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: We need your help, Greg?

1500
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: Can I trust you?

1501
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 6: Hey, Jag, we must listen to Dela Whale do it

1502
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 6: for us.

1503
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: We need your help.

1504
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 6: Greg.

1505
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: We look, Deela Whale.

1506
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 6: We we need to listen to Deli Whale. It's up

1507
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 6: to you.

1508
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: Wow, first of all, adorable. Yeah, those are all of

1509
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: our children. I think it was Walker. No, my kids.

1510
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: Your kids were not involved. I texted your wife. She

1511
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't reply.

1512
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 4: I believe mine were of it.

1513
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't.

1514
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm not certain about that.

1515
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: No, Oh, you didn't hear I heard Luke and Colton

1516
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: in there.

1517
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: I went in thinking it was just your too, so

1518
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: I'd have to listen again. Really, yeah, but I was

1519
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: also a long that was a long time ago. So

1520
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: there's their voices have changed. Many years have passed, Many

1521
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: years have passed since Greg.

1522
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,520
Speaker 2: We first have asked about the tapes, the Delaware tape,

1523
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: and it's this is not by the way, this isn't

1524
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: an ambush, so don't worry.

1525
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: But developing news. I don't know when you went away

1526
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: on vacation.

1527
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there may have been some conversation about reopening the

1528
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: investigation for the tapes. Okay, and I want to tell

1529
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: you that we are in possession of the tapes.

1530
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: Now, wow, that is an ambush.

1531
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: But I'm not playing the tapes and I haven't listened

1532
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: to them either. Well, you're going to be disappointed, but

1533
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: I have the tapes we read.

1534
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: We put a call.

1535
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 4: Out, Yeah, call to arms. People responded, call the arms.

1536
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to give up my source here, but

1537
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: we're in possession of the tapes now.

1538
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: I want to just cycle back. Greg.

1539
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: I want you to think about this, because I know

1540
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: your first instinct is going to say, if you they

1541
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: stay in the vault, we never hear them. But those

1542
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: children that you heard better for the bit. Those children

1543
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: that you heard were begging for it, Yeah, begging. And

1544
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: it reminded me why that existed in the first place,

1545
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: which was the idea that if we can put together

1546
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: some type of charitable donation and the listeners could get

1547
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: involved as well as Mark and I will as well

1548
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:56,440
Speaker 2: toward Greg's charity of choice, the Food Bank of Santa Monica's.

1549
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 4: Right, sure that would be appropriate in exchange.

1550
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: For giving us access to a listening session, a one

1551
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: time listening session of Delaware. So I'm going to again

1552
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: put that out there to you, Greg, now that we

1553
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: have the tapes. Out of respect for you as a friend,

1554
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: I would never just ambush you and play the tapes.

1555
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: But we do have the tapes now.

1556
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: So now it's just a matter of you agreeing and

1557
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: giving the listeners. And I'm the reason it came up

1558
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: while you were away is people have been constantly hitting

1559
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: us up about this for years, constantly would be the right.

1560
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: Right, like where are the tapes? The Delaware tapes come on, Greg.

1561
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: So the fact that now we do have the tapes,

1562
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: it is fully the ball is in your court to

1563
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: give the lit it's really twofold, give the listeners what

1564
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 2: they've been clamoring for a decade, and two to actually

1565
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 2: help people in need via a donation to charity.

1566
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 3: You also could factor in the potential outcome that Dan

1567
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 3: and Mark cannot find a tape player anywhere. So that

1568
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: that's the second part of this mission.

1569
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: It's three file. Don't worry, Okay, sit there. Yeah, I

1570
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: don't believe you that you haven't listened. Wow, I promise you.

1571
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: I do believe you. But I just I'm surprised. It

1572
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 5: wasn't Hawaii. It was you know it was. It was

1573
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 5: the wrong words for it.

1574
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: We put the call out and immediately heard back from

1575
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: parties connected.

1576
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, quick, this is I mean it is a name.

1577
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: Bush is quite a surprise. It's going to be you

1578
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: want to think on it. We don't even know.

1579
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 5: It's going to be disappointing to hear the forty five

1580
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 5: second like joke songs over like a tape recorder that

1581
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 5: were made with us in a piano.

1582
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: No, it will not be disappointed, but maybe it will

1583
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: be disappointing. Uh, or as Mark's probably not going to

1584
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: be disappointing. Uh yeah, because he did this the sore.

1585
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even say, hey, this person, this individual even

1586
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 2: gave me some background information.

1587
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know who it is. How would I

1588
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: not know who it is? I don't know. What do

1589
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: you mean? We don't know what you know?

1590
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 5: Oh, there is only one There is only one person

1591
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: who would have kept kept and everything, kept a record,

1592
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 5: kept kept everything going.

1593
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: So it's well, they betrayed you.

1594
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: Well the start right there there. He wouldn't look at

1595
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: it like that. Are you well, are you upset with

1596
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: me or this individual? No?

1597
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: No, I can't be upset. You know that you just

1598
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 5: dug it up. Finally it happened.

1599
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: Uh. If you know who this is, he does.

1600
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: He has a kind of a funny little story also

1601
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: about your time together in high school.

1602
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: Working at the local newspaper.

1603
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 5: It was not the local newspaper, but it was our

1604
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 5: school newspaper in which we were co sports editors for

1605
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 5: a hot minute and then I sort of just bailed

1606
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 5: on it and left him to do all the work.

1607
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: He kind of hints at that, but he the email

1608
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: sent by this source was very jovial in nature. Yeah,

1609
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 2: so there's there's I don't believe there to be. And Mark,

1610
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 2: I haven't shared this with you either any bad intentions.

1611
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: It was more, oh, you know, do you want this?

1612
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: Here?

1613
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: It is and now Greg has a big decision to make,

1614
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't betray you and your privacy if you

1615
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: want to keep the past in the past, but just

1616
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: letting you know that it's out there and that is

1617
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a major score, by the way, by

1618
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: the Zuzzar as a journalist to after years of looking

1619
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: to find the tapes and now it is in your hands,

1620
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: and you tell us if you're open to the idea

1621
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: of a donation to bring the tapes forth, perhaps we

1622
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: play them at our podcast remote podcast at the Strand

1623
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: in about a month. I think that would be a

1624
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: listening party if you will these ideas.

1625
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: I would like you know, Greg, I mean, sleep on

1626
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: it multiple times, just stretch this out for like, let's

1627
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: really build up to that.

1628
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 5: And that's yes's part great journalism work by you. Dan

1629
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 5: to read the tweet that was sent to you.

1630
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: Okay, don't don't hit out at me doing my job.

1631
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 5: I actually do remember when Jeff sent a similar one

1632
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 5: seven or eight years ago. It might have been over

1633
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 5: Facebook or something like that, and just everyone ignored him

1634
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay.

1635
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: Well the investigation.

1636
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 5: Or it was even brought up on this show as

1637
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 5: many years ago, maybe ten years ago.

1638
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: The yeah, it has been. And now it shifts to

1639
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: decision time.

1640
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this decision year for our country, a pivotal

1641
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: election coming up, it is Greg now that first has

1642
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 2: the pivotal decision.

1643
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 5: For new listeners. Yeah, it was a It was a band.

1644
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 5: I was in jokie band. I mean, we didn't really

1645
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 5: play shows other than I think our school's talent show

1646
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 5: a few times, and we had some we had some songs,

1647
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 5: we had some tapes.

1648
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: And the call is put out there and my source,

1649
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: a listener tracked down the source on social media to

1650
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: let him know that the call.

1651
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: Was out all the president's men in two point zero unbelievable.

1652
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, So there you go, let us know. We

1653
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: want to hear your debut album. How do you want

1654
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 2: to cook? We're interested in maybe shiny Man went to Frogtown?

1655
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: Now was that second? That was second? I don't know.

1656
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Wednesday. I mean, what

1657
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: a bombshell you get.

1658
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: You get the tension in the area, and it's not

1659
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: even like an unhealthy I could feel Gregg's gears turning

1660
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,440
Speaker 2: like should I or shouldn't I?

1661
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: And can I can help people? Like all that stuff

1662
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: is happening in real time? Right? Yeah? Mark really is.

1663
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 3: It is a fascinating subplot to our lives.

1664
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 5: As much as I am loath to help people, it's

1665
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 5: it's a tough decision, all.

1666
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: Right, Well you just try to sleep with it if

1667
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: you can. Uh, until then we'll maybe get an answer

1668
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 2: and the hopefully near future, we'll.

1669
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: Be back Wednesday another episode of Around the NFL. Till

1670
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: then see the call.