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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: you through it. They've been protecting Tennesseeans for seventy five years.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we are back and this is officially

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Speaker 1: the start of the Titans Amy and Coachpack Podcast Season two.

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Speaker 1: I'm Amy Wells, joined of course by Dave McGinnis, better

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Speaker 1: known as Coach Mac. Mac. How do you feel going

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Speaker 1: into season two? This is great. This gives us a

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Speaker 1: chance to start on the next million viewers. We hit

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Speaker 1: a million last season. This is started on the second million.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait Season two, two million, two million. I

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Speaker 1: like it nice. So we just wrapped up training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where we are right now in the season,

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot of stuff going on. This

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Speaker 1: was a very exciting training camp for the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: We're just jumping right in here, no small talk, straight

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Speaker 1: to football. We've got to talk about. One of the

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Speaker 1: most talked about things at training camp was Mac. You

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Speaker 1: had a new spot to watch practice. You moved to

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Speaker 1: a completely new vantage point. Usually you watching the end zones.

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Speaker 1: This year you were up on the third floor of

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Speaker 1: the new building at Saint Thomas Sports Park. Unbelievable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've probably seen what three thousand practices in my career.

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Speaker 1: That is the best spot I have ever watched practice

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Speaker 1: from in my life. You know, that observation deck both outdoors,

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Speaker 1: and then when they got the indoors finished, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're able to entertain a lot of season ticket holders,

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Speaker 1: a lot of groups came through here. It's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: spot to watch it. I think the thing that really

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher come over here for a practice and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, after we gave him a tour of the

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Speaker 1: second floor up here, I said, well, let's go up

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Speaker 1: that you know, fireman, and we went up and of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, we you know, as we're you know, signing

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Speaker 1: autographs and taking pictures and then started watching practice. I

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Speaker 1: asked him, I said, Fish, are you ready to go

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Speaker 1: downstairs to the field. He said why? He said, this

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Speaker 1: is the best view of a practice I've ever had

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Speaker 1: in thirty years. And then he's right and up here

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Speaker 1: and what you know, what you're able to do seriously

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Speaker 1: is for us, you know, getting ready for a broadcast

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Speaker 1: or just to watch. It's just like being in the

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Speaker 1: press box. I mean you can see splitch, you can

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Speaker 1: not being distracted. And it's a great, great venue for

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. But I appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 1: even to watch it on the outdoor part of it

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Speaker 1: amy before it was even ready. I mean there were

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Speaker 1: still hammers and nails going on up there. But that's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful place of beautiful it's a game change. It

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Speaker 1: really is. Just for entertainment value here for the franchise now, Mac,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people ask you about where

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Speaker 1: you like to watch a football game because it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks you want to be as close to the

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Speaker 1: action as possible, but that's not necessarily the case for

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Speaker 1: you when you're watching and evaluating players. Right well, if

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Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to evaluate what's going on,

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Speaker 1: you need a three dimensional view of it. And the

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Speaker 1: down there in game day. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: views of what's going on. That's why people now in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League have people in the press box

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Speaker 1: so that you can tell I've coached in both places

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Speaker 1: during my career, and if you're going to be on

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Speaker 1: because you can't see it on the sideline. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's for the non initiated. It's fun to be down

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Speaker 1: dimensional view of it. Now, Mac, let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about training camp. Now that the whole preseason training

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Speaker 1: the last month or so, Well, Amy, this was an

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Speaker 1: twenty season. You need sooner or later you become familiar

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Speaker 1: practicing against yourself. You know, not only just the people

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Speaker 1: And it was so beneficial to get different people in

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Speaker 1: because if you can practice against someone else without having

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Speaker 1: If you can truly practice, it's really good. And they've

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Speaker 1: Arizona's practice, as you know, it was a little different.

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Speaker 1: which worked out very nice, you know. For that. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I've done it before, you have to the head coaches

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Speaker 1: Henry yet. Is that a crime? No, it's not a crime.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, I get asked this a

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Speaker 1: lot on other radio shows I do out of this market.

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Speaker 1: How's Derrick Henry? I said, big? I mean he look,

434
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is really an anomaly in the National Football League,

435
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Speaker 1: and there are some other backs that are kind of

436
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Speaker 1: the bell cows of their team, you know, coming back

437
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Speaker 1: off of the foot injury. The thing that people need

438
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Speaker 1: to realize is Derrick Henry did not spend this offseason rehabbing.

439
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Speaker 1: He rehabed to get ready for the playoff game, all right,

440
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Speaker 1: and you know, you could say, you can debate you

441
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Speaker 1: know how effective that was, but he was healthy as

442
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Speaker 1: you know, as far as rehabbing the foot injury. Now,

443
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: he trained all offseason training. He was training to get ready,

444
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Speaker 1: So that means he's getting bigger. Well, you know, I

445
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Speaker 1: feel like he gets bigger every time I see him. Well,

446
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's like a Marvel character, you know,

447
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: you continue to look at him and you start to notice,

448
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, this guy doesn't look like everybody else. And

449
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Speaker 1: the thing that's the thing that I find entertaining is

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Speaker 1: even when we had teams come in here to visit

451
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Speaker 1: after practice, you know, when they would be talking to

452
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Speaker 1: him and to take his pads off, he still look

453
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Speaker 1: like he has He still looks like he has pads on.

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Speaker 1: You know, when people were going it was awesome to

455
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Speaker 1: have so many people from other teams come up to

456
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Speaker 1: us and be like, Derreck Henry's huge, Like yeah, we

457
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Speaker 1: know we've told you. Yeah, yeah, well you don't have

458
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Speaker 1: to tell. All you got to do is put the

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Speaker 1: tape on. Yeah, just look at him. The final position

460
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Speaker 1: we have to talk about is the Titans part of

461
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Speaker 1: ways with Brett Kerrn. Brett Kernan's been here for thirteen seasons,

462
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Speaker 1: his time is up, and there's a new punter in

463
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Speaker 1: town in Ryan's stonehouse. Mac. Are you surprised by that?

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Speaker 1: Not really? I mean I was here on the staff

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Speaker 1: when we brought Brett Kerrn in here, you know, thirteen

466
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Speaker 1: years ago, and so I know what he's meant to

467
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Speaker 1: this franchise, and he's meant a lot to this franchise.

468
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Speaker 1: I know, this franchise, you know, before Mike Vrabel and

469
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Speaker 1: John Robinson got here, went through some pretty tough seasons,

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Speaker 1: and Brett Kern was a pretty stabilizing force during all

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Speaker 1: of that time and would stand up and really be

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Speaker 1: the face of this franchise as far as a football

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Speaker 1: player legitimately, you know, during some of those times. But

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Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say about Brett Kern that's bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've known him for fifteen years and the

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Speaker 1: best compliment I can give a player is that he's

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Speaker 1: a true professional. And he is and he's a he's

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Speaker 1: he's a wonderful not only a human being. He's a

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Speaker 1: really good player. He knows what he's doing, he has

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Speaker 1: he has honed his craft to a fine, fine edge.

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Speaker 1: But it comes to a point in the National Football

482
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Speaker 1: League is to where the train that is the National

483
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Speaker 1: Football League never stops and sooner or later you're going

484
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Speaker 1: to be replaced. And I think that, I really think

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Speaker 1: that that the Titans did him, did him a favor

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Speaker 1: by releasing him, you know, with the with the first cut.

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Speaker 1: I think he had an idea that this was coming.

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Speaker 1: He's been at it a long time time. Because when

489
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Speaker 1: you've got a young talent that comes in, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got to figure a lot of things into it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they got to be able to perform.

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Speaker 1: And I think Ryan Stonehouse, you know, during the preseason,

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Speaker 1: during camp, has shown that he could he could do that.

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Speaker 1: It was very important that they started using him as

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Speaker 1: a holder for Randy Bullock because Randy Bullock has proven

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Speaker 1: to be a very consistent player. But that whole, that

497
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Speaker 1: whole center snapper holder triangle is very important in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, and so you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: it was an evolutionary thing that was going on. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it didn't catch you know, Brett Kern by

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Speaker 1: surprise at all. In fact, he has said, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I saw this kid kick for you know, three

503
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Speaker 1: or four times, I thought, okay, this is different. But

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Speaker 1: Brett Kern and Brett Kern I, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 1: will still probably get a chance to play somewhere, which

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Speaker 1: which he should. So I got nothing but accolades for

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Speaker 1: for Brett Kern, and I think that the Titans do too.

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Speaker 1: They did a classy thing and that the way that

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Speaker 1: they you know, released him is never easy to release

510
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Speaker 1: a veteran like that. I've in through that in my career.

511
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Speaker 1: That's not the easy thing to do, but you have

512
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Speaker 1: to do it with respect and you need to do

513
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Speaker 1: it with class, and I think the Titans did it

514
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Speaker 1: with both right. It's always difficult to see someone who's

515
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Speaker 1: been such a consistent presence within the Titans organization in

516
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Speaker 1: all capacities, both on the field and off the field.

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Speaker 1: Brett Kern, his family, They've been super involved in the

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Speaker 1: Nashville community in Middle Tennessee. So it's always hard to

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Speaker 1: see someone like that go. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, this is a business and we all know

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Speaker 1: that those decisions happen this time of year. Well, when

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Speaker 1: he does decide to retire, you know, and put his

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Speaker 1: right leg in malthballs, he'll retire as a Titan, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: absolutely so. Now, Mac, we're coming up on Labor Day

525
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Speaker 1: weekend and there's no games. We've got about a week

526
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Speaker 1: kind of an in between weekend here and then the

527
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Speaker 1: Titans will start their regular season kind of routine getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the first game, which is against the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants at Nissan Stadium. What is Mike Rabel and

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff doing during this weekend, this kind of

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Speaker 1: in between period of time. Well, they've already started working

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Speaker 1: on the giants even prior to this week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's something that's always in your mind, especially you

534
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Speaker 1: know after the first you've already had your people, whoever

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Speaker 1: it is that's breaking down the opponent early. All of

536
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Speaker 1: that stuff is already you know on the Microsoft Services,

537
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is already in there, has been

538
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Speaker 1: there for quite a while. You're going against a team

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Speaker 1: for your opener that has a new head coach, has

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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, So that always makes a little

541
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Speaker 1: bit different your research that you do. You're gonna have

542
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Speaker 1: to research, you know, the last place their coordinators were,

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Speaker 1: the last place their head coach was if he's going

544
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Speaker 1: to be the play caller. So that takes a little

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Speaker 1: bit more depth of research rather than somebody that's got

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Speaker 1: an established way they're doing things at their team where

547
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Speaker 1: they are, but they're they're getting ready. Look at this point,

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Speaker 1: once you get your practice squad put together. And here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing, Amy and I think that our listeners

550
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Speaker 1: need to know that just because the first week this

551
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Speaker 1: is how this roster looks, that doesn't mean it's how

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Speaker 1: it's going to look week two, week three, week four.

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Speaker 1: You know, a roster in the National Football League is

554
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Speaker 1: liking Amba. It's constantly changing shape and it's going to

555
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Speaker 1: and it really it's even more so really since COVID

556
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Speaker 1: because you now get sixteen people on the practice squad,

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Speaker 1: so you've got people you're being able to develop all

558
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Speaker 1: the time. And so this I think it's pretty well

559
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Speaker 1: set for who we're going to play the Giants with.

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Speaker 1: But you know, John Robinson and his group already proved

561
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Speaker 1: that they know where to find players after going through

562
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Speaker 1: ninety one last year. But the coaches, the coaches now

563
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Speaker 1: are getting these players ready to play the Giants, and

564
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Speaker 1: that starts in a you know, a lot of preparation.

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Speaker 1: The players will get this weekend off, the coaches will

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of time, but they're they're grinding

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Speaker 1: on the Giants right now. Have you started looking at

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Speaker 1: the Giants were absolutely, you know, and not so much

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Speaker 1: the Giants in preseason, going back and looking at Baltimore

570
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Speaker 1: to watch what Wink Martindale has done defensively, we've played

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Speaker 1: we've played both of these coaches recently, Wink Martindale at

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and then Brian Dable at Buffalo, and so we've

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Speaker 1: played games against them to see kind of their setup. Now,

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Speaker 1: what they do with their personnel, that's up to them

575
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: right now. They didn't show very much in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so as to what they're going to do.

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Speaker 1: But have I started looking at those schemes absolutely? Yes. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of giants who the Titans are going to be playing,

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Speaker 1: we were able to talk to another giant, a media

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Speaker 1: giant if you will, Peter King. If you don't know,

581
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Speaker 1: he is of NBC Sports and he every training camp

582
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: season will travel to all of the different camps or

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Speaker 1: as many as he can and just kind of see

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Speaker 1: what their team has going on. So I had the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to stop and have a little conversation with him

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Speaker 1: while he was on his journey of the training camp.

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Speaker 1: So here is my conversation King. Another year of Peter

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Speaker 1: King going on the road and heading to all of

589
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Speaker 1: the training camps in the National Football League. Realistically, how

590
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Speaker 1: many do you hit every year? Do you hit all

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Speaker 1: thirty two every single year? No, Amy, I'm basically going

592
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: to hit eighteen or nineteen and then I go to

593
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Speaker 1: two or three games along the way. But what I

594
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Speaker 1: found is that, you know, going to all these camps

595
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Speaker 1: is really like getting you know, little snippets at every team,

596
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Speaker 1: because if you want to see a lot of teams,

597
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: then you're going to have to spend a day two

598
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: days max. And most places I only spend one day,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of try to get a gut feeling,

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Speaker 1: a real good quick snapshot, you know. Like I was

601
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and I just found it really interesting. Everybody

602
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: was saying, well, Jamar Chase a really hard worker, and

603
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: it's been rubbing off on a lot of the younger guys.

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Speaker 1: And I said, give me an example, and they said,

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Speaker 1: we'll just come out to practice. You'll see. So at

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Speaker 1: the end of practice, the last person on the field

607
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Speaker 1: is Jamar Chase. And when I say last person, he

608
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: was out there for twenty minutes catching balls out of

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Speaker 1: the jugs machine. When each player is catching balls out

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Speaker 1: of the jugs machine for three or four minutes and

611
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Speaker 1: they go and he's the last one because he does

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Speaker 1: it for about twenty minutes. I looked around that practice field.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody out there except two equipment guys with the

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Speaker 1: footballs and one plugging it into the jugs machine, and

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and a staffer kind of playing defense on him,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. That is it. And I just thought,

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Speaker 1: that is the reason why I come out here, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know Jamar Chase, but I got a really

619
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Speaker 1: good sense of his ethos just from being around him

620
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And then you know, watching what I

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Speaker 1: watched at the end of practice. So those are the

622
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Speaker 1: kind of things that you hope to see. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I watch a team like the Titans, I just

624
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Speaker 1: try to get little snapshots if I can, of the

625
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: team and to get updated, like I have no idea

626
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: starting at corner. You know, you just try to get

627
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Speaker 1: a good handle on every team as you go around.

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Speaker 1: Now you've been doing this for a long time. When

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Speaker 1: in your career did you decide, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do, I'm gonna hit the road. I've got to

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Speaker 1: see all these guys. Well, the first year I ever

632
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Speaker 1: did it was the first year I covered football. I

633
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Speaker 1: worked in Cincinnati covering the Bengals for the Cincinnati Enquirer,

634
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: and that year they gave me a couple of days

635
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: off and I went to Steelers training camp and Brown's

636
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: training camp, and I just said, Wow, this is really cool.

637
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: It's incredible to go out and to see other teams.

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: And so I just started over the years to you know,

639
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: sort of expand it a little bit more every year.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm up to whatever, eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: per year, and I spend about twenty five to twenty

642
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: eight days away and I'm at the point where I

643
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer I'll be doing this just

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Speaker 1: because of that, you know, I was telling my wife

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Speaker 1: that I have really gotten into napping. Okay, so like

646
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Speaker 1: when I'm home, we live in Brooklyn, we'll eat lunch

647
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Speaker 1: and we'll do a crossword puzzle over lunch, and then

648
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: it'll get to be one o'clock and I'll say, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I am I am spent. So I lay

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Speaker 1: down on the couch and it's only twenty five minutes maybe,

651
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Speaker 1: But then I get up and I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: But if I don't have that nap, I am a

653
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Speaker 1: miserable person. So on this trip, there are no naps.

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Speaker 1: There are no naps. And I said, yesterday we drove,

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Speaker 1: you know, as we record this, we drove from Cincinnati

656
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: with my little crew to Nashville, and I just felt

657
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: this overwhelming desire. Oh my god, I got to close

658
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: my eyes. I have to tell you. Everybody said, man,

659
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: you're on the road a long time. Yeah, yeah, what's

660
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: it like? And I said, man, I miss my naps.

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Speaker 1: You know what you just described is my ideal life.

662
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: A lot of naps and a crossword puzzle that's just exhausting. No.

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Speaker 1: What I always wonder, Okay, why do you get exhausted

664
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Speaker 1: doing the crossword? And I guess strenuous mental activity really

665
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: does get you tired, because I know that after we

666
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: do that puzzle, I am totally spent. Anyway, I love this.

667
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I could talk about naps all day, but I feel

668
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: like we also have to talk about some football and

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the storylines that you have encountered so far,

670
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: things that you're looking forward to seeing how they evolve

671
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: as the twenty twenty two season comes around. I just

672
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: mentioned this to both John Robinson and Mike rabel I said,

673
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: it's so interesting every year, you know, everybody said, hey,

674
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: you know the Titans are Okay, yeah, we'll see they're

675
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: a nice team, probably win the division, but you know, boy,

676
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City and wow, now Cincinnati and Buffalo. Oh, who's

677
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: beating Buffalo? And John Robinson basically was like, that is

678
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: just the way I like it, you know, because honestly,

679
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter because at the end of the day,

680
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you're playing the games. What do you care what people

681
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: think of you? Which I think they have done such

682
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: a good job here, and look last year, obviously everybody's

683
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: disappointed that you lose the first playoff game at home

684
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: is the number one seed. But I remember this was

685
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: maybe twenty oh nine, ten something like that. I was

686
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia Eagles camp and I was talking to Andy Reid,

687
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: who was the coach at the time, and one of

688
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: the things we were talking about was how every year

689
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: you go to training camp in Philadelphia, if you're a fan,

690
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: if you're a coach or a player, and you say,

691
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: we got a real chance we could go to the

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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: super Bowl this year, and there's something to be said

693
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: about that. What I think it is is like in Tennessee,

694
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Speaker 1: here's what I would like. If I'm a fan of

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I know that I'm going to training

696
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: camp this year and we've got a chance to play

697
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: deep into January and if things go well into February,

698
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: and so I want my team that I root for

699
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: to be able to say that every year, to be

700
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: able to say we have a legitimate chance to get

701
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl this year, and the Titans do.

702
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: And of course everybody is so unhappy about the way

703
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: it ended last year, rightfully so. But I think the

704
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: thing that you want out of your franchise, and it's

705
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: what John Robinson and Mike Vrabel have done atop this

706
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: franchise is they've put this team in position every year

707
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: to contend late in the season and into January. And

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00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: that's what I would want. Something that I've always been

709
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: very impressed by is national reporters who are able to

710
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: cover all thirty two teams. As someone who only covers

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00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: one team very specifically, it's a hard thing for me

712
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around knowing what other teams are doing.

713
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: How do you keep it all straighten your brain? And

714
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: how do you have the just depth of knowledge that

715
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: you seem to have about every team in this league?

716
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: You know forty three times more than I know about

717
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. I just got here. I'm a drive

718
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: by guy. Will Fulton start at one corner? Will Caleb

719
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: Farley be able to make it back? Start at the

720
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: other quarter. I mean, like, those are things you probably

721
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea about what might happen there.

722
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea. But my point is my

723
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: job is basically to know a little bit about every team,

724
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: because you can't know a lot about every team. But

725
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: this is sort of the way I look at it.

726
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: Every camp I go to, I take a few minutes

727
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: and I look at the roster before I go out

728
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: to camp, and like, for instance, with the Titans, I said, oh, yeah,

729
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. Last year after the Super Bowl, Cooper Cup

730
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: stands up and said, this is for Robert Woods. He

731
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: was loved on the Rams, And so I just start thinking,

732
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Robert Woods is here. I gotta do something.

733
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: I gotta try to see if I can find Robert

734
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Woods here and talk to him a little bit. Ryan Tannehill,

735
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, his really tough finish to the season last year.

736
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: I try to find one or two, you know, stories

737
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: at each place. Here's the other thing. Really, training camp

738
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: to me is like if you're a dentist and every

739
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: like five years, in order to get your license renewed,

740
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: you have to take a class on here's the modern

741
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: way to put in crowns and so you've got to

742
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: go to some university and spend fifteen hours studying new

743
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: dental techniques. That's exactly what this is like. When I

744
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: go to the Patriots and I'm trying to see what

745
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: is mac Jones's level of comfort in this defense, or

746
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: looking at the roster, or looking at Okay, who's going

747
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: to call plays Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, none of the above.

748
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: So you just try to get a little sense of

749
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: every one of the other teams, because every team changes

750
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: so much every year, and maybe not really significant changes,

751
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: but they change so much every year. And sort of

752
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the way I look at that is my job is

753
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: like a continuing education job. So that is what also

754
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: kind of appeals to me about the job that in

755
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: the old days in football, teams didn't really change very much.

756
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: You have the same guys from the start of the

757
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: careers to the finish, mostly because they didn't have the

758
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: ability to move around freely as freely as they do now.

759
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: So what I try to do is just familiarize myself

760
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: and get conversant with every team that I see so

761
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: that I can have some sort of qualified opinion on him. Well,

762
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Peter King, we're so excited to have you here. We

763
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear everything that you have to write

764
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: and say about the Tennessee Titans. Thanks for taking the

765
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: time to talk to me, Amy, Thank you so much

766
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: for having me. Good luck and Peter King, Peter King's

767
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: want to I mean, look, I've known Peter look thirty

768
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: seven years now, since I've been in the league and

769
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: since he's been in the league, and he's he has

770
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: always been right at the top. You know, he's kind

771
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: of the tip of the spear for what goes on,

772
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, with getting information out. And look, everybody in

773
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the league trust him. I mean, he's very very trustworthy.

774
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: He's he's written some very nice things about me. I mean,

775
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: he really handled when I was head coach of the

776
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Bears for six hours, didn't know it for three you know,

777
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: he handled that very well. I mean, I'm a big

778
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Peter King fan, always have been. I love the fact

779
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: that you were able to speak with him when he

780
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: was here. And you know, there are certain guys that

781
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: as they as you move through and you're in the

782
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: league for a while, that you just understand are different

783
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: that everybody respects and just they go about it in

784
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: the right way. When I say that players are pros,

785
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Peter King is a prose pro and that's a That's

786
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: a great interview you had with him. He's one of

787
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: my favorite writers just to read. I like the way

788
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: that he writes. I think he's full of information and

789
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: really just amazing insights. So I was really excited to

790
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: be able to spend some time with him, and I'm

791
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: excited that we are back to podcasting. Mac, I've missed you. Well,

792
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: I've been here, You've seen me. This is not the

793
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: first time you've seen me, Mac, don't you miss just

794
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: like the podcasting environment. Though we sit in here, we

795
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: really break things down. It's nice Amy, I'm trying to

796
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: have a moment and you just insist on. Just no,

797
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: I didn't ruin any moment. This to me is if

798
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really enjoy being with you, we never would

799
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: have agreed to have Bobblehead and do this. So this

800
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: is this, This to me, officially kicks off the season.

801
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: When we're doing this, We're in here talking ball, we're

802
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: talking to people, We've got nice interviews, We've already got

803
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: a million followers, we're looking for another million. I mean,

804
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: do I enjoy this? Yes, But I've seen you quite

805
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: a bit before I make it. I make it a

806
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: point to see you. I want to be traveling with

807
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: you and Levy to Memphis. I mean, it's not like

808
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: we haven't seen each other in three months. Well, I

809
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: was just trying to, you know, bring everything together and

810
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: have a nice warm The podcast is back in action

811
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: here season two. You've done moment, but I mean, yeah,

812
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: I mean I saw you yesterday. Okay, sure you've done

813
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: all of that. I mean I want us to be

814
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: honest with our listeners, like they think Coach mcinamy have

815
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: been completely apart and all of a sudden, we're running

816
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: towards each other, like in a field with music plays. Oh,

817
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be nice that happened. I think that would

818
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: be great because in reality, I've talked to you every

819
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 1: day for about four years. This is the great part

820
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: of this here too. That's why this works so well. Ale. Well,

821
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: we are back. We are back to our once a

822
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: week routine. Because it's the regular season. There's going to

823
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: be a lot of stuff to talk about. There is

824
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: real live football that counts on the horizon. Coach mack,

825
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: buckle up, buckle up, Amy, that's right. I'm ready and

826
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: we are. We are back. Titans Amy Coach Mack podcast

827
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: is back in rolling there it is so for Coach Mac.

828
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm Titans Amy. Thanks for listening to the Titans Amy

829
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: and Coach Mac podcast. We've got a lot to do

830
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: this year. Let's go, Let's go.