WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Guess Who's Back

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast The Guess Who's Back Good Again. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as Joe Burrow returns to practice twelve days before the

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<v Speaker 1>season opener in Cleveland. Coming up, we'll hear from several

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<v Speaker 1>teammates on the return of Joey franchise, and I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the newest Bengals quarterback, Will Greer, who was added

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<v Speaker 1>to the practice squad after an outstanding preseason with the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. Then I'll be joined by Charles Davis from

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<v Speaker 1>CBS Sports, who will be in the Booth next week

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<v Speaker 1>to call the Bengals Browns game. The Bengals Booth Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since

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<v Speaker 1>from the Jungle. In case you haven't seen it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have a new all access TV show this

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<v Speaker 1>year called From the Jungle. You can watch the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode on Bengals dot com or YouTube. It's basically the

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<v Speaker 1>team's own version of Hard Knocks, going behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>with players and coaches in ways the Bengals have never

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<v Speaker 1>done before. It's a huge project, and Seth Tatner and

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<v Speaker 1>his team of videographers and editors do a phenomenal job.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love the Bengals, you'll love From the Jungle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to the latest news, beginning with the return

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<v Speaker 1>of Joe Burrow. On Wednesday afternoon, as the Bengals walk

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<v Speaker 1>toward the practice field, a long line of cameras waited

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<v Speaker 1>to see if Joe Burrow would be in uniform. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>rookie receiver andre Yosi Vash.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of was wondering what they're out there for

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<v Speaker 2>that I saw Joe out there, obviously, I was like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's out there, no sleeve, no nothing, which is really

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see his will throwing like he like didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even miss a beat. So you know, they're obviously teaming

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<v Speaker 2>the slow with him still, but it's nice to see

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<v Speaker 2>him still slinging the ball. Like like how he used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow's return was not necessarily anticipated by his teammates, including

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase found out when.

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<v Speaker 3>I got on the field. Matter of fact, I found

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<v Speaker 3>out when I watched him put his gear on. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what's he doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you concerned that he would try to come back

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<v Speaker 1>too fast?

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<v Speaker 4>Tell?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I told him, don't come until we

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<v Speaker 3>fought him, Like, I don't want you back until you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're ready.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he looked good. You know, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 5>no hobble or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Only I didn't see really much. And then again I

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<v Speaker 3>did not paying attention to him as much. But for

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<v Speaker 3>what I see, you know, he looks good. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>look like he's having probaball here or nothing. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow's return brought a sigh of relief to Bengals fans

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<v Speaker 1>and changed the energy at practice. Here are Yo, Si

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<v Speaker 1>Batch and veterans safety Mike Thomas.

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<v Speaker 5>It was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can deminitely feel his vibe out there, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>already you know, not critiquing, but give you need tips.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, watching me, I took a go route, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I could win inside leverage I did, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you know, if you go outside, there's more

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<v Speaker 2>places where I can.

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<v Speaker 5>Throw the ball. And so it's just even just little.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like that that you hear from the starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>make you no, I always want to play football.

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<v Speaker 5>He kind of gives you more energy.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It kind of brings more life to the team.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not gonna talk too much about it, but

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was a whole different vibe than all

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<v Speaker 6>the training camp. I don't think he threw an incomplete

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<v Speaker 6>fast today, so I mean it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's return came one day shy of five weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>he suffered his calf strain, and while he was gone,

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<v Speaker 1>his teammates wanted to make sure they didn't miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are Ted Karras and t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 7>He looks like Joe, and he's been doing a great

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<v Speaker 7>job in grinding camp. You know, my main goal was

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<v Speaker 7>just had the on line unit cleaned up and polished

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<v Speaker 7>and ready to go, so you can just plug himself

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<v Speaker 7>in and pick up right where he left off.

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<v Speaker 8>I definitely feel like a gay of guy some extra juice,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, just to go out there and just show

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<v Speaker 8>him that that We've been working hard, even though he's

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<v Speaker 8>been getting treated up. You know, he wanted to show

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<v Speaker 8>him that there's nothing we ain't leave off nothing. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>we still sat spy. We was when when he first

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<v Speaker 8>got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>So the media was only allowed to watch the first

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes of practice, but according to Higgins and others,

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow's best pass was a perfectly thrown bomb to rookie

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Jones.

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<v Speaker 9>Just a deep ball to left us, a go ball

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<v Speaker 9>right on the money.

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<v Speaker 10>Didn't even have to adjust to it.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was definitely good to see him out there

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<v Speaker 8>and definitely good to get a replica.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow was not the only Bengal who returned from injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Running Back Trayvon Williams was also back on the field

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<v Speaker 1>after missing nearly a month with an ankle spraying.

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<v Speaker 9>It was amazing, you know, like I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I've been in there for thirty days, but Joe's been.

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<v Speaker 5>In there alongside with me.

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<v Speaker 9>So just being able to be alongside him to see,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, the path that he's taking to get to

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<v Speaker 9>where he's at right now as well. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>of course, you know I was came back, but I

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<v Speaker 9>was excited just as much for.

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<v Speaker 5>Him too, because you know, he's ahead of the spirit

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<v Speaker 5>for us.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, he's an amazing guy, and he's gonna help us,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, make the Super Bowl push. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 9>to be be back out there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals app. NFL teams had to cut down their

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<v Speaker 1>rosters this week, and I think the media should cover

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<v Speaker 1>the process a little bit differently and focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster after the practice squad is announced instead of after

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty three man roster is announced. Practice squad players

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<v Speaker 1>can be elevated to the roster up to three times

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<v Speaker 1>during the regular season, and last year Trenton Irwin, Caladamitas

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<v Speaker 1>and Drew Chrisman started the season on the practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>and wound up playing huge roles. The practice squad can

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<v Speaker 1>include up to six veteran players, and for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>this year, it includes the oldest player on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three year old safety and special teams ACE Mike Thomas.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate the Bengals, our coaching staff. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 6>was just transparent and honest about the whole situation and

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<v Speaker 6>now understood my robe. So great to be bet. Get

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<v Speaker 6>to help my young dudes out, you know, continue to

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<v Speaker 6>in this game, and then I gotta stay ready if

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to us himself. But at this point, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>being on a team like this, being around this locker room,

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<v Speaker 6>these guys, I mean to still be around and to

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<v Speaker 6>still be able to help.

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<v Speaker 5>Them out and grow.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that's why I want to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>This point in my career with standard elevations from the

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<v Speaker 1>practice guad. You know, at some point you're gonna play.

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<v Speaker 6>This shit absolutely man and uh again standard That's been

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<v Speaker 6>my whole career. So mentally that's that Point's fine. But

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<v Speaker 6>at the same time, helping these young guys understand, looking,

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<v Speaker 6>don't look for three one to speak. You step up,

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<v Speaker 6>You be a leader, even somebody you your bets, you

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<v Speaker 6>step up you you need.

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<v Speaker 5>But for me, like you.

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<v Speaker 6>Said, the fact that we negotiated in our CBA for

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<v Speaker 6>standard elevations, actually so many bits you know, around and

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<v Speaker 6>extending their careers. So I'll be ready whenever that comes here.

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<v Speaker 5>With the business.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Day, the fact that they kept oh uncle Michael Brown

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<v Speaker 6>and I gotta roll with this to wan, I can

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<v Speaker 6>help these young guys, you know, like to start off

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<v Speaker 6>their career behind note, giving them all the game that

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<v Speaker 6>I can.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's a blessing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the organization is really hopeful that you would

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<v Speaker 1>accept a spot on the practice squad. Was there any

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<v Speaker 1>hesitation in your life here?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I told you they were very transparent from

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<v Speaker 6>me for a long time about what was gonna captain right,

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<v Speaker 6>and I can only appreciate them for that because a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of times you don't get that information right. And

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<v Speaker 6>I told them honestly from my standfield, unless a team

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<v Speaker 6>came and signed into that fifty durn Ross, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>doing a lateral move to go to somebody else practice squad.

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<v Speaker 6>And you'll hope we get brought up. They were interests, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I got told everyone I'm not going to nobody else

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<v Speaker 5>but say this is where I want to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Stanley Morgan and Sydney Jones are three veterans who

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<v Speaker 1>will almost certainly contribute on game day at some point

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<v Speaker 1>learn more. Most of the players on the roster and

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<v Speaker 1>the practice squad have been with a team since the

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<v Speaker 1>start of OTAs, but a notable exception is quarterback Will Greer.

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<v Speaker 1>The former West Virginia Mountaineer Star, was the Cowboys number

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<v Speaker 1>three quarterback behind Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush before Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>made that trade with San Francisco for former number one

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick Trey Lance. Greer was told before the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>final preseason game that he was going to be cut,

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<v Speaker 1>but he decided to play anyway, and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>great game, passing for three hundred and five yards and

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns and running for fifty three yards and two

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<v Speaker 1>more tds in the Cowboys thirty one to sixteen win.

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<v Speaker 10>At the end of the day, it was just it

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<v Speaker 10>came down to the one play football or not play football,

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<v Speaker 10>and I just said I'm gonna go play put a

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<v Speaker 10>lot into it, so I felt good about the offense

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<v Speaker 10>and knew that I could go put good tape out.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 10>At the end of the day, it just made it simple. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna go play.

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<v Speaker 1>What appealed about this opportunity, I.

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<v Speaker 10>Think the just the amount of the coaches, the quarterback

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<v Speaker 10>experience in this building, being able to play with Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 10>some of these the weapons we have. A big part

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<v Speaker 10>for me was being on a team, but like a

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<v Speaker 10>creditive teams and somebody that you know, had talent and

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<v Speaker 10>was you know, a Super Bowl contender if you will,

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<v Speaker 10>which clearly this place is, and that's that was a

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<v Speaker 10>big part of the decision.

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<v Speaker 1>What were the last couple of days, Like, was it

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<v Speaker 1>a whirlwind fielding calls from a bunch of teams?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 10>It was weird you being in that position, definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>fielding calls and just trying to find the right fit.

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<v Speaker 10>It was the first time I've gotten to like choose

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<v Speaker 10>rather than being chosen. So it's a weird process. But uh,

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<v Speaker 10>my agent did a great job. And at the end

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<v Speaker 10>of the day, like I said, I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 10>to a place that I had a chance to go

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<v Speaker 10>win it all. Coming from a place like Dallas that

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<v Speaker 10>we were, you know, building to go win it all,

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<v Speaker 10>I wanted to go somewhere else with that same vision

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<v Speaker 10>and same ability, and this place definitely has.

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<v Speaker 1>A So you had great stats passing and rushing this preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you are playing the best ball

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<v Speaker 1>of your life?

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<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I got a lot more to give. But

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<v Speaker 10>I think as you the longer you play in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 10>the better you get with everything. And I definitely feel

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<v Speaker 10>like I'm chrending upwards and continuing to get better. And

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<v Speaker 10>this place was a place I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 10>going to continue to get pushed and developed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not far from where you start in college. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there kind of a nice feeling to be back in

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<v Speaker 1>the Midwest where things went so well?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, No, it's crazy. I didn't realize how close it

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<v Speaker 10>was to Morgantown. It's awesome and definitely just excited.

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<v Speaker 6>To be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm not wrong here. You look a little sleepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it been like, you know, restless, last forty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Hours or whatever?

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<v Speaker 10>No doubt it definitely has. It was up early this

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<v Speaker 10>morning to get here in time to get the physicals

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<v Speaker 10>and all that done to be able to practice. I'll

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<v Speaker 10>sleep good at night.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch up.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be fine here.

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<v Speaker 1>Greer was originally a third round draft picked by the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers in twenty nineteen and started two games as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>but he suffered a foot injury in the second quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the second game. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought

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<v Speaker 1>to check in with one of the best color analysts

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<v Speaker 1>on TV, the Great Charles Davis. Will be in the

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<v Speaker 1>booth with Iron Eagle in Week one at Cleveland and Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the Bengals leader, Joe Burrow. He was

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<v Speaker 1>back at practice twelve days before the season opener. In

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion, is that enough time for Joe to be

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<v Speaker 1>fully ready for that game?

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, you remember last year we were going through something

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<v Speaker 4>similar with a different type of ailment, all right, and

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<v Speaker 4>that ailment I felt like, said it back a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though it's legs, it's feed, it's all this.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't feel the same because that torque of throwing

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<v Speaker 4>when you have the epidect me and everything else that

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<v Speaker 4>goes along with it, and then you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Do anything at all.

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<v Speaker 4>See I think with the leg I didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a doctor, won't play one on TV. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think that overall he was able to get a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of workouts in. I think he's been moving around

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<v Speaker 4>more than people think. Bottom line is I just think

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<v Speaker 4>that everything's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 5>He went through it last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan didn't feel quite himself, didn't play to his normal

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<v Speaker 4>level in the open against Pittsburgh. It's nothing like experience

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<v Speaker 4>is they're having gone through it before knowing what to expect.

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<v Speaker 4>I expect to see much more of the Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 4>we're used to seeing come the opener at Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you admire and respect about him going into

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<v Speaker 1>year four?

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, He's the same guy every time I meet him.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not quite sure what your assessment would be because

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<v Speaker 4>you're around him even more than we are. But what

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<v Speaker 4>I like about him is he's very true to being

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow. And when you meet people, sometimes there's one

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<v Speaker 4>persona versus another. After a win, after a long. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's depending on the time of year. Sometimes it's depending

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<v Speaker 4>on how they're playing. I could not tell you what

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<v Speaker 4>his stats were the previous week. I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 4>if they won or lost the previous week. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>tell you anything based on each meeting with Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm pretty sure Ian Eagle and Evan Washburn would

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<v Speaker 4>back me up on this. You walk into the room,

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<v Speaker 4>or he walks in, if you're already there for your meeting.

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<v Speaker 5>He says hello. He's very polite.

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<v Speaker 4>He greets everyone that is in the room, not just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the announcers, if the producers in the room,

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<v Speaker 4>the directors in the room, if someone else happens to

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<v Speaker 4>be there, he greets them with a hello. He sits

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<v Speaker 4>down and tell me if this is your experience, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>He sits down and that's it. That look is go yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, a lot of chitchat not his thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's not rude. But if you're gonna waste his

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<v Speaker 5>time with chitchat, he's not gonna be there that it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be. Ask your questions, let's go, and again,

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<v Speaker 5>not rude, but very to the point. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Off we go and then he's back to the business

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<v Speaker 4>to tront who win games for Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is my experience as well. You described it

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<v Speaker 1>very well. We're chatting with Charles Davis. The Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>the big three back and wide receiver, Chase Higgins and Boyd.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got Joe Mixon back and running back. They do

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<v Speaker 1>have a newcomer in the mix though, and tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>Irv Smith Junior. What do you think of Irv and

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<v Speaker 1>how important is the tight end in the Bengals offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they've worked around the tight end to an extent

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<v Speaker 4>for time. C j Uzama had a big year and

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<v Speaker 4>parlayed that into a free agent contract with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>My experience with the Bengals and what I think about

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<v Speaker 4>how they want to run offense. If the tight end

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<v Speaker 4>is there and available, they're going to utilize it.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought the second.

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<v Speaker 4>Half of last year hayden Hurst got utilized more as

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<v Speaker 4>he got more comfortable and became that guy. Remember that's

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<v Speaker 4>why hayten Hurst was drafted in the first round in the

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<v Speaker 4>first place by Baltimore to catch passes and be that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>If they can get the earth Smith Junior that came

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<v Speaker 4>out of Alabama, that explosive youngster that we saw make plays.

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<v Speaker 4>If they're getting him in Cincinnati, Oh, he has no

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<v Speaker 4>worry about being utilized. Joe Burrow knows how to spread

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<v Speaker 4>the ball around and you want to go cover the

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<v Speaker 4>other three. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I got another guy I can move the ball to.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a matter of if Erthsmith stays healthy and

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<v Speaker 4>if he's the guy that we saw coming out of college,

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<v Speaker 4>because he just didn't stay healthy in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, the Bengals went into the season with four

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<v Speaker 1>new starting offensive linemen. This year, it's only one, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a four time Pro Bowler. Orlando Brown Junior. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this the year that the Bengals offensive line becomes known

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<v Speaker 1>as his strength?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so, because I think that they've taken care

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<v Speaker 4>of all they needed to prior to this last move

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<v Speaker 4>you just described.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, the kicker to the move is Orlando Brown Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming in at left tackle, and Jonah Williams said, hold

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<v Speaker 4>on a second, that's my spot. And of course there's

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a how do we say it,

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<v Speaker 4>kerf fluffel in the beginning, and you remember Jonah Williams

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<v Speaker 4>hurt feelings, wanted to stay at left tackle. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>pride factor in that. You know, that's where he's played

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<v Speaker 4>his entire career. Very few times I think Dan to

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<v Speaker 4>actually get one right. But when it first happened and

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<v Speaker 4>Jonah said, well I want to be traded, get me

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<v Speaker 4>out of here, I never bought into it.

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<v Speaker 5>I never once did. I just said, he's got hurt feelings.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it he wants to stay where he is,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think he's going to look around and realize

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<v Speaker 4>just moving to right tackle, even though it's tough playing

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<v Speaker 4>on this team, in this offense, with this group, with

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to go to the super Bowl, I think

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<v Speaker 4>over time it will it will dissipate, and it has

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<v Speaker 4>and that's been a good thing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn the defense with Charles Davis. You played safety

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC at Tennessee. How big of a deal

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<v Speaker 1>is the loss of Jesse Bates and Von Bell, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>early in this season.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a big loss.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we can downplay it, and you're right

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<v Speaker 4>about particularly early, because once it's for real and everything

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<v Speaker 4>starts to move really fast, that one adjustment that's not

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<v Speaker 4>made in the back end of the secondary that Jesse

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<v Speaker 4>Bates or von Bell would have made with the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the secondary also turns into a big play because

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<v Speaker 4>someone runs free. That tackling that von Bell provided in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of that defense, or coming up off the

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<v Speaker 4>edge when he dropped down the ball. Howking that Jesse

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<v Speaker 4>Bates provided as being a center field type of a

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<v Speaker 4>free safety back there in full experience, it's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Big deal early. Now do they have people.

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<v Speaker 4>Athletically that can replace them, certainly, but it's also the

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<v Speaker 4>leadership aspect, the tone von Bell set, the moment he

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<v Speaker 4>got to Cincinnati where everybody's ended up buying in pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>All those things have to be replaced as well. And

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<v Speaker 4>lou Annarumo is the defensive mastermind. He needs these guys

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<v Speaker 4>on point. He may have to be a little more

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<v Speaker 4>vanilla early just to make sure they have their feet

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<v Speaker 4>under them.

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<v Speaker 1>The illusions, as we say, with lou Ana Roumo Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us thought he'd be gone, thought he

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<v Speaker 1>would get a head coaching job this offseason. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>think that was going to happen? And what is it

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<v Speaker 1>about lou that makes him one of the best defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>One I thought it should have happened. Okay, and it

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<v Speaker 4>should have happened a couple of years ago. But every

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<v Speaker 4>time he doesn't get one of these jobs short of

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<v Speaker 4>him saying that's not the job for me, I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on with those organizations. And I know this

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<v Speaker 4>scene seems really strong to say, but I wonder about

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<v Speaker 4>hiring around the league, and I would sit with anyone

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<v Speaker 4>and happily have them educate me on what they're looking

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<v Speaker 4>for in a head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you looking listen? We went the Oh Wow, he

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<v Speaker 5>calls really good ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Plays with Cliff Kingsbury and Arizona, and I like Cliff.

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<v Speaker 4>I covered him in college. I would hope that he

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<v Speaker 4>would consider me a friendly person with him, whether he

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<v Speaker 4>considered me a friend or not. But I questioned it

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<v Speaker 4>from day one, and I'd be happy to say it,

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 5>This is why we're hiring him? That makes no sense

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<v Speaker 5>to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know that you're hiring someone who can

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<v Speaker 4>command the room, command the respect of the ball club,

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<v Speaker 4>follow what you're trying to get done, and be there

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<v Speaker 4>to handle all the adult decisions that have to be made.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's not Louanna Room, I don't know who else

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<v Speaker 4>that is as soon as he walks in the room.

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<v Speaker 5>The respect is there. The guys want to play for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I've not met anyone that doesn't enjoy ultimately playing for Louanna.

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<v Speaker 5>Room. Are there some tough moments? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>When are there? Not the guy who has his name

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<v Speaker 4>on the trophy that they all play for, Lobardi Trophy.

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<v Speaker 4>He was not exactly a shrinking violet and what exactly? Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>come give me a hug every day. But guess what

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<v Speaker 4>those guys would have killed for him and those who

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<v Speaker 4>remain on this earth.

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<v Speaker 5>I met one of them. You know what he told me, Dan, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't think of my father every day, who's been on

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five years, but I think of Lombardi every single.

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<v Speaker 5>One in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. So the season begins in Cleveland against

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns, and Browns went seven and ten last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have Deshaun Watson for the first eleven

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<v Speaker 1>games of the season. What are your expectations for the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns quarterback now that he's had a normal training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and gets to start from week one.

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<v Speaker 4>My expectations are exactly what the Browns are and what

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<v Speaker 4>the Browns actually expect. Twenty twenty Deshaun Watson. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>they have to have because that's who they signed. That's

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<v Speaker 4>who they they they brought in. That's who they said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and thirty six million dollars guaranteed, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>guy we're getting.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we all know what has happened since that time frame.

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<v Speaker 5>We've had the holdout, we've had the.

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<v Speaker 4>Off field issues, the legal issues, the suspension for eleven

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<v Speaker 4>games last year, which made their season a rap before

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<v Speaker 4>they ever kicked the football off, even though they played

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<v Speaker 4>hard and did the best they could for Jacoby Brissett,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the three and three Deshaun Watson. And I

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<v Speaker 4>hate doing that by record. If like starting pitchers is

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<v Speaker 4>not the same for quarterbacks. But still they went three

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<v Speaker 4>and three with him down to stretch. But he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>the Deshaun Watson that we expected. Well, Danny, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>suspended eleven games, you can't be around the facility. What

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<v Speaker 4>in the first ten weeks of the season. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you can't be around you can't build anything. He's

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<v Speaker 4>had a off season now, he's had OTA's mini camps,

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<v Speaker 4>summer training. He's spending that time. The receivers are spending

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<v Speaker 4>time with him. I think now it's a reasonable expectation

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<v Speaker 4>to think that we start to see more of the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty Deshaun Watson, especially with that offensive line, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good offensive line. And I think now this

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<v Speaker 4>is a roster that for once we're looking at Cleveland

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<v Speaker 4>and probably more of what we say twice in the

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<v Speaker 4>last three years that we think, huh, better be careful

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<v Speaker 4>with these Browns.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a good ball club.

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<v Speaker 4>When people are picking Pittsburgh to finish behind them, that

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<v Speaker 4>tells you to respect They're starting to engender there.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus, it feels like there's an urgency in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they guy to get back to the playoffs, which

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<v Speaker 4>they did during the COVID year of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles, Bengals fans love it when you and Ian call

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati games. We look forward to seeing you in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully many times throughout the course of this season.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't wait to see you in Cleveland. Dan, you take

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<v Speaker 5>care of yourself and travel safely.

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