WEBVTT - Tamara Johnson Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen has said to me that fan is in my

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<v Speaker 1>top five favorite purchases of anything I've ever purchased in

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<v Speaker 1>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a remarkable fan and it's very quiet. So

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend that both of you and it will

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<v Speaker 1>keep you cool. I will send you a link.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so funny. Alex and I had a huge

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<v Speaker 3>thing about a fan on our road trip.

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<v Speaker 4>So she got Instagram scammed, like you know how like

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram sent you know you and I've totally been scammed.

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<v Speaker 3>I can talk about that, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>But she was like, I was like, did you spend

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<v Speaker 4>like one hundred and forty dollars on fans? She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I got two of these fans. They were like seventy

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<v Speaker 4>five bucks each. I'm like, what do what do you?

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<v Speaker 4>Why did you why there's a trust They're amazing And

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is the dumbest thing, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>can buy a fan for ten dollars, why did you

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<v Speaker 4>buy a seventy You know?

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<v Speaker 3>These are these are.

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<v Speaker 4>The most remarkable fans I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like battery charged. They fold down into a little

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<v Speaker 4>circle and then they can become a floor fan. They

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<v Speaker 4>can become a small fan. They oscillate, they have a

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<v Speaker 4>remote control, they hold a charge for like forty eight

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<v Speaker 4>hours so you can have them on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was and it saved our life in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the van.

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<v Speaker 1>Why have you not already thought about putting one of

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<v Speaker 1>these fans in your off?

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<v Speaker 5>And now I'm gonna need you to send me the

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<v Speaker 5>link because I need to get one for mine too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're amazed. I guess, I guess. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even think about that. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be too hot, I'll just have to record.

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<v Speaker 4>But I guess it's just a.

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<v Speaker 3>Regular fan and it's one hundred and four like it

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<v Speaker 3>is today. Is that gonna make a different funny?

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<v Speaker 5>So Danielle, Danielle and I we both walked down from

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<v Speaker 5>I forget what hotel it was, and Jensen looked pretty

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<v Speaker 5>well rested, and Danielle and I looked like we hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>slept all night. And we looked at each other and

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<v Speaker 5>she was like she sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like nope.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like did I sleep? Like nope, And she's like why,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, well, there was avent. She's like right over

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<v Speaker 5>the bed that was pointing right at your face while

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<v Speaker 5>we were trying to sleep, and so you're like under

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<v Speaker 5>the covers trying to block the air.

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<v Speaker 3>It was horrifying. It was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And the option of do of sleeping like that or

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with it hot, well, there's no doubt I'm choosing

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<v Speaker 1>freezing cold air blasting on my face.

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<v Speaker 3>But it did not help.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally the air conditioning vent was maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>five five and a half yeah, five feet maybe five

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<v Speaker 1>and a half feet maybe put on the wall and

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<v Speaker 1>then just directly in front of the bed, angled right

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<v Speaker 1>down right at.

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<v Speaker 3>Your face the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>So we do, Sue and I do not only the

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<v Speaker 5>air conditioning at sixty five at night, but also a fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we because we need the air. We can't

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<v Speaker 5>it can't just be cold. It has to be moving,

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<v Speaker 5>has to be circulating. So we have the cold and

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<v Speaker 5>the fan going. You also require a fan to be

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<v Speaker 5>standing at the edge of the applauding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he says a fan, you mean an actual

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<v Speaker 1>person who.

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<v Speaker 3>Lovest I love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Just halfway through the night, as I roll over, they

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<v Speaker 5>just they whisper like that was the funniest rollover I've ever.

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<v Speaker 3>So good doing are great? God have you lost weight

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the night. Yeah, okay, so can

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<v Speaker 3>we go back to be an Instagram scam for I?

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<v Speaker 4>For whatever reason, they have nailed me of course, because

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<v Speaker 4>the algorithm has figured us all out. And I get

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<v Speaker 4>advertised movie props constantly, like like Reenac movie Jurassic Park one. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to buy the draft of the drafts Park

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<v Speaker 4>one for one. I thought you bought the Indiana Jones one,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was already being marketed to me, like crazy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I got the the Indiana Jones Grail Diary, which is

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<v Speaker 4>like this video and it shows this guy who like

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<v Speaker 4>handmade it and like and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>I need this because I actually dressed as doctor Jones

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<v Speaker 4>his father for Halloween last year, as like an in

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<v Speaker 4>joke with because my kid's name is Indy. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, and when I was walking around as this

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<v Speaker 4>old man, everybody kept just thinking I was dressed as

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<v Speaker 4>an old man, like nobody got the eye was who

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<v Speaker 4>I was. And I was talking to a friend, He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you needed the Grail Diary. So I saw this ad

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<v Speaker 4>and I bought it, and of course, like what I

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<v Speaker 4>get is like a magazine like it's the cheapest, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a complete scam. And if i'd read the comments, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Instagram users actually comment on those times they

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<v Speaker 4>say like, don't buy this, that's total bull And I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, I should have read the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, yeah, I get movie profits. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 3>what targeted ads?

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 4>Will you're a lurker now you don't actually use social media,

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<v Speaker 4>but what I do?

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<v Speaker 5>I do still get ads. I get video So I bought.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing I did buy from Instagram, which I

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<v Speaker 5>thought was a scam because it took like thirty eight

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<v Speaker 5>weeks to get to me, was the small video game

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<v Speaker 5>console that holds one hundred thousand of your classic games

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<v Speaker 5>that you have. So I bought that for like one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and nine bucks, and by like the eighth week,

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<v Speaker 5>I just emailed them as is this a scam?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you can just tell me at this

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<v Speaker 3>point you won. Yeah, yeah, I've let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, I just want to know if I

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<v Speaker 1>should still be excited about my games exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally they're like, no, no, no, it's real. And it

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<v Speaker 3>showed up.

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<v Speaker 5>I did exactly what Sue said I was going to do,

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<v Speaker 5>played it for half an hour and then I've never

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<v Speaker 5>played it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, never touched you played like the three games that

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<v Speaker 3>you remember.

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<v Speaker 5>I played Street Fighter two, there you go, and couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>even get the guy that get a contract code? Did

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<v Speaker 5>you ever play Contrary? Down down, left, right, left right,

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<v Speaker 5>BA start? Yeah, let's start, well select start is for

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<v Speaker 5>two players, but the yeah, that's so yeah. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>what I want is my old and Tendo sixty four

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<v Speaker 5>to work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just found I we cleaned out a big

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<v Speaker 5>portion of our home and I found all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But I doubt it a work. But that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't these console things like it's just like old school.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm miss blowing on the game and it's not working

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<v Speaker 5>and me yelling at the screen and all that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I once bought a pair of shoes on Instagram, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've bought I mean, let's be honest, I shop.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked a shop. That's the shopping shoulders. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>it's the same dance I do me too, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know what I think my shopping habit

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<v Speaker 1>become such that now I even enjoy shopping in person.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole I'm becoming a new person. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>say this. I'm transforming, I don't know, having fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Things a sweet sleep of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you listen. I'm constantly resisting it. I'm not asking

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I'm just saying, as we could argue that

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<v Speaker 1>I might be the happiest person ever, because even the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of death just sounds nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be happy. I'm happy alive. I'll be happy dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't used to like to shop at all

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<v Speaker 1>outside of my house. I was like, a real let's

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<v Speaker 1>just stay home.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I use Instacart, I use Amazon, I use the Nordstrom app.

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<v Speaker 1>I shop at Anthropology online like I shop online, and

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<v Speaker 1>anything I have to go out and get I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. But recently I wanted a lipliner. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't wear lipstick, but I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>my makeup for our live shows that we've been doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I need some sort of lip color.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a lip liner. And randomly I thought.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna go to the mall, but go to

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<v Speaker 6>s arml yeah, arm go to hootgog on a stick,

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<v Speaker 6>well pandamic.

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<v Speaker 1>So, actually, writer, it's funny you say that we were

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie and we were watching Teenage Mutant Ninja

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<v Speaker 1>Turtles Mutant Mayhem, and Keaton can only watch for about

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<v Speaker 1>he watches all the previews and then he watches the

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<v Speaker 1>first thirty minutes of a movie, and then he's like done, done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really announces to everybody done done, And I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get him up and we walked the mall

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, I have this moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna pop into Sephora. Let me tell you, even

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<v Speaker 1>with a two year old who you know, doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>what shopping is and so therefore is making my life

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<v Speaker 1>miserable while running around trying to rip everything off the counter,

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<v Speaker 1>sticking his finger in the makeup samples. I thoroughly enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>picking out a lipliner.

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<v Speaker 3>It was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, going back to you, just you just described

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<v Speaker 5>me shopping with Sue by the way, yeah, literally just

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<v Speaker 5>sticking my finger in the samples Like I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To be You're done, We're done. I am you done

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<v Speaker 3>with this?

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<v Speaker 5>Literally just described me with Sue, so she just doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>take me shopping anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>I love thinking of you as another little two year old.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one thing I say I definitely got scammed

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<v Speaker 1>with was Instagram shoes. I ordered a pair of shoes

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<v Speaker 1>and they they also took thirty eight weeks to arrive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I'm just never going to see these.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they arrived and they were beautiful, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>worth the weight.

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<v Speaker 3>Wore them once.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully they lasted the length of my event, and on

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<v Speaker 1>the drive home, stepping into the car, the snaps, the snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>The straps just snapped and ripped off, broken, and I

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<v Speaker 1>immediately threw them in the trash. All right, I waited

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight weeks for a one wear pair of shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I feel very wasteful.

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<v Speaker 5>But speaking of shoes, very quickly, I thought you'd be

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<v Speaker 5>impressed with this, Danielle. So Susan took it upon herself

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<v Speaker 5>for my birthday this year, and they just happened to

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<v Speaker 5>be next to me to buy me my first ever

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<v Speaker 5>pair of dunks.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh wow.

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<v Speaker 5>So she got me the green ones and I had

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<v Speaker 5>to I don't know if he told you, but I

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<v Speaker 5>had to text producer Jensen Karr, husband of this podcast,

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<v Speaker 5>to ask how to tie them properly? Oh, if I

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<v Speaker 5>was just supposed to tie them, if I was supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to slip them on, And he sent me a YouTube

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<v Speaker 5>video about how I was supposed to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need I actually need help with lacing. Lacing too.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an art to lacing. And my feet are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty small, and so I have to like if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I can't most of my laces, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tie in a bow because if I let them dangle,

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<v Speaker 1>I step on them. But there is like a time

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's there's also there's an art to lacing.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently did a video about my shoes because I

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<v Speaker 1>love shoes, and one of the very sweet comments and

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<v Speaker 1>there was, all right, now, let's teach my good sis

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<v Speaker 1>how to lace, and I was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have I don't have that much time. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>just grabbing a pair of shoes, sliding them all my

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<v Speaker 1>feet and running out the door.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what Jensen at the end of the day kind

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<v Speaker 5>of said. He's like, just tie them and go Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>that's probably the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, But those are great. Writer, you are not super

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<v Speaker 1>into tennis shoes. You're a boot guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But you did recently comment on a pair of my dunks.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the shoes I was wearing on tour once where

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<v Speaker 1>you recently said, I like those, those were dunks.

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<v Speaker 3>I like most of your shoes. I'm always impressed.

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<v Speaker 5>We should go all go shopping together at them all.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that'd be a ton of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good idea. I'll bring Keaton, you'll need too,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be there. That's right. We have our two year old,

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<v Speaker 3>the Pod Meets World two old quickly. Welcome to Pod

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<v Speaker 1>the idea for Pod Meets World, who one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to do on the show was shine a

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight on some of the crew members and production jobs

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<v Speaker 1>that helped Boy Meets World become the show it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but rarely get kudos week in and week out. We

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<v Speaker 1>may have gotten most of the attention, but we were

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<v Speaker 1>just the script reading cogs in a much larger and

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<v Speaker 1>smarter machine. There were dozens and dozens of hard working

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<v Speaker 1>and lovely professionals who did most of the work, and

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that if we could introduce you to really

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<v Speaker 1>any of them in between our episode recaps, well we

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<v Speaker 1>could finally give them the credit they deserve. And this

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<v Speaker 1>week we're honored to do just that. Sound mixer Tomara

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson has just under get ready for this three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty credits to her name. She's It is a

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<v Speaker 1>resume that includes work on Fresh, Prince of bel Air,

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<v Speaker 1>Married with Children, Who's the Boss, Sister, Sister, the Nanny,

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<v Speaker 1>the Parkers, Everybody Loves Raymond, Zoe won On One, and

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards of Waverley Place, Oh, and also every single episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Boy Meets World and then later Girl Meets World.

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<v Speaker 3>She's now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are really only a handful of people who worked

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<v Speaker 1>on every episode of both shows. We're looking at you,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Manel and Tamara is part of that exclusive club.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was an Emmy nominee for Outstanding Sound Mixing

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<v Speaker 1>for a Variety Series, Music Series or Special for David

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<v Speaker 1>Copperfield's nineteen ninety five show Unexplained Forces. Maybe she can

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<v Speaker 1>explain David Blaine's plane trick for us. So today we

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<v Speaker 1>get to ask her many questions about her extensive time

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, including what is a sound mixer. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>welcome with what I can only guess will be impeccable

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<v Speaker 1>sound prolific to Maria Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>There, I am wow, nice to see.

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<v Speaker 4>You again, Nice to see you care And you're in

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<v Speaker 4>a professional boot in my studio at home.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fair in my happy place right in a booth.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect. I love it. Love that is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I fortunately I have this. I can do projects

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<v Speaker 2>during the strike, which is good. Yes, that does help. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is so exciting to be with all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so excited to have you, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>truthfully our first guest with the type of resume where

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<v Speaker 1>we could say that you have worked on like the

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<v Speaker 1>entire history of television.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really but okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wanted to ask you this and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to answer very quickly without thinking it over.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your favorite show you ever worked on?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying when it's World.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, you don't have to say that, but really.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to. But there's so many elements of

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<v Speaker 2>the show besides the show. That just made it a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful experience. All the writers, Michael, the cast, the stories,

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<v Speaker 2>the scripts. It's just it was a wonderful, wonderful show.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I love that. I know, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime somebody says that, I'm always like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you were there for the whole time, right, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole time pilot, first pilot, first show pilot, all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through the end, and then all the way through

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<v Speaker 2>the end girl, which was very sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Only one meaning none of us were on all the

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<v Speaker 5>boy Metroll episodes and all the Girl Meetroll episodes. So

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<v Speaker 5>the only one of the four of us here who's

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<v Speaker 5>done them all.

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<v Speaker 3>Was yeah, wow, so cool, so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we know many of our listeners and most of

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<v Speaker 1>our hosts probably uh don't really know exactly what goes

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<v Speaker 1>into sound mixing and re recording. So let's start with that.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it exactly? What is the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when when they shoot the show, then the editor

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<v Speaker 2>picture editor gets all the all the takes, everything puts

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<v Speaker 2>together the show and includes the sound that goes with

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<v Speaker 2>each one of those takes. Then I get that and

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<v Speaker 2>my editor's dialogue editor will go through and clean everything up.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound effects editor goes in and adds all the sounds

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<v Speaker 2>that we need. I get the music from the composer,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I mix all those elements, including a laugh track.

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<v Speaker 2>The laugh guy comes in and there is a laugh guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it or not. He comes in and laughs,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how we that's how we do the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Michael and and everybody would come in and

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<v Speaker 2>we play it back and he gives notes and then

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<v Speaker 2>they leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on a minute, there's a laugh guy.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a laugh guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, they pay they pay a guy to laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>and does he come in and do different laughs?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he has a machine that has laughs. Okay himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought there was a guy just sitting in front

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<v Speaker 3>of the microphone. Thought different.

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<v Speaker 2>More than it's way more than sixty laughs. He has

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<v Speaker 2>libraries from many different stages, very many different shows, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Boy Meets World would have a younger

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<v Speaker 2>sounding audience, you know, older audiences, African American audiences, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just all sorts of different choices. So yeah, wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole that's a whole thing into itself.

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<v Speaker 5>That will and then probably combinations of that. So we

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<v Speaker 5>need young African American, we need older Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael would often say, oh, I want to hear I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear a woman laugh there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, or like different oos like this should be

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<v Speaker 3>this should be a playful.

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<v Speaker 1>So did they add some of the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Actually, Michael is too fond of the woze. If

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<v Speaker 2>it was real and they really you really earned it,

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<v Speaker 2>then yes, but he wouldn't necessarily add to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is my favorite laugh note of all time. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have a sad laugh? A sad lad from Michael

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<v Speaker 2>from another show? But it was like no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 5>There was the one ask for that never happened was

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<v Speaker 5>the sad laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's I think, will could you do a sad level?

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<v Speaker 5>Here?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, well, could do it from

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<v Speaker 3>a Will cool? A sad laugh would be like, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty pretty darn good.

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<v Speaker 1>The trailing off is what gives it away where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually bummed about this.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other best laugh note, second best was h

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<v Speaker 2>It was the scene was in sort of mid Middle

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<v Speaker 2>Ages medieval and they said the laugh didn't match the wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my hand, we need that laugh to sound like

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<v Speaker 1>it's behind more tin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a laugh.

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<v Speaker 4>This is old school, this is laugh doesn't match the

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<v Speaker 4>we want abonic plaguey.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't sound like that. Cele it needs English, that

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<v Speaker 3>British right exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the British laugh in the thirteen hundreds, just

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<v Speaker 5>halfway through became a cough.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that it would be perfect going back

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<v Speaker 1>to this laugh guy. Where do we think he gathered

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<v Speaker 1>the laughs? Did he have to travel the world and

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<v Speaker 1>then the cord people laughing? Where did they get him.

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<v Speaker 2>All the shows that have a live audience. If they

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<v Speaker 2>want their own library, then they give him all the

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<v Speaker 2>shows and then he goes through. It's a very painful

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<v Speaker 2>process go through. I've done this. I've built libraries, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just ough. You just have to Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a great start, but then you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>a good ending, or somebody talks in the middle, or

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<v Speaker 2>there's something, so you know, out have probably a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>takes of laughs. I will maybe be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred. Maybe it's very very very tea perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we do that. We do that with voiceover too.

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<v Speaker 5>We do oof and egg libraries where it's just small,

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<v Speaker 5>small impacts, large impacts, medium impacts, getting hit in the leg,

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<v Speaker 5>getting hit in the shoulder, and you just build your

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<v Speaker 5>own personal library the whole time. So they just have

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<v Speaker 5>it for a show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy, so that not every episode you're having

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<v Speaker 1>to go right.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a laugh person.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, how did you first get into sound mixing?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a this is an honest question. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have better he than us?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have different hearing than you do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I will pick up like, oh there's a

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<v Speaker 2>problem here. I hear this, I hear that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say I necessarily have better hearing. It's just my

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<v Speaker 2>ears more trained to listen to stuff. And the way

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<v Speaker 2>I got into it is my parents bought me a

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<v Speaker 2>little real real tape recorder when I was ten years

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<v Speaker 2>old for Christmas, and I just started recording, you know, dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talk at dinner. I hold the speaker up

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<v Speaker 2>to the microphone up to the speaker and record a

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<v Speaker 2>show that I'd take scissors and scotch tape and I edited.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't love your own stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was a little quarter inch step just really

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<v Speaker 2>really really primitive. But that's how that's how I got

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I just love sound. I always have, And

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<v Speaker 2>originally I wanted to be in music, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I then I realized I needed to make money, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That I would switch to post you excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, being being an artist, which is not the way

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<v Speaker 1>to make a living.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's what I did. That's what I do in

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<v Speaker 2>my studio. My studio gives me the creative exactly, but

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<v Speaker 2>not the monetary flow. And then I have my my

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<v Speaker 2>union job that you know, pays the bills and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have like four hours to do an episode,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't have the time to like here at home,

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<v Speaker 2>I could spend an hour listening to for the right

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<v Speaker 2>gun shot, you know. I did that just Sunday. Actually nope, nope, all, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take that one. Can't do that when you're under

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<v Speaker 2>You got four hours to do your job.

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<v Speaker 3>So so where were you physically? Like, did you move

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<v Speaker 3>with us from studio to studio or no.

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<v Speaker 2>I I usually work at a studio. So we started

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<v Speaker 2>boy at what was the thing of that place? It

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<v Speaker 2>was Compact Video and then it became four MC, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I moved to another facility and they, uh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just everyone just followed over and they just usually come wherever,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever the person like a colorist, let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or somebody you know post people that kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>up home in one place and then clients follow you

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<v Speaker 2>to that. So that's what happened. And I've actually done

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually done an episode a girl in this studio

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<v Speaker 2>because I had in twenty fifteen, I had back surgery

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't drive and I couldn't get There's the

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<v Speaker 2>place where we mixed was in Burbank. So the Brenda

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<v Speaker 2>tegu which I'm sure you all Brenda, came to my

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<v Speaker 2>studio and so did the laugh guy, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>shipped off the mix so Michael and everybody could hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's only one time that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So how much were you on set?

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<v Speaker 1>If ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Never? Wow, I don't think I ever ever came.

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<v Speaker 5>You did?

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<v Speaker 3>You never came to like a tape night? Believe I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe I ever did.

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<v Speaker 5>Your most favorite show ever? You come to a televie

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<v Speaker 5>she said, favorite show to work on.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need to clarify that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just called you Eric. And that's the point I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to make here, is that when you're in post,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you as Danielle and Will and right,

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know you. I know you as Tapanga and Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like, uh, in a way, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to break the fourth wall, sure, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I Like one time, Will, you came in in the

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<v Speaker 2>Burbank studio to loop a line and it was after

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<v Speaker 2>you had you had you had a beard, and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>been gone for a while and you came back with

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<v Speaker 2>this large book that you'd written, you finished your manifesto,

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<v Speaker 2>and you take a pod I mean a cane that

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<v Speaker 2>and he opened it up. One page had something written

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<v Speaker 2>on it and then you go, dun dund done, I'm done. Well,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.439
<v Speaker 2>all of us in post just grabbed onto that. So

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>whenever we'd be working, dun dundune, I'm done. So you

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<v Speaker 2>came into the studio and like three of us said

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<v Speaker 2>it to you, and you looked at us like we, hut,

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<v Speaker 2>what God, Eric's coming in. Oh, this is so fun, Okay,

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll do this and yeah, so that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>And you had no idea that it had become a catchphrase, Will, Yeah,

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 3>that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so was that from boy or Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was from Boy. That was like the last

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<v Speaker 2>season of Boy made me.

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Plays with Squirrels was the last season of World, So,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But the look on your face was like, who are

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>these people and what are they doing? I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>No context, done, done, done, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exact Wait what yeah? Okay, So here's a question.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't like to break the fourth wall with

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<v Speaker 5>your actors, with all the shows you've done, are there

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<v Speaker 5>characters other than actors? Are their characters that are better

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<v Speaker 5>at sound than others? I don't know how else to

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<v Speaker 5>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wouldn't say that, but there are, there are,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to name names, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>some actors that are very very, very very good at adr.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say the positive ones.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary Coleman from Awesome, one of my idols of all time,

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<v Speaker 5>from Different Strokes, Different strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>He would come in, I'd play the line for him

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd do it one take.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I have had other actors who I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made a mistake. No, you can't fix it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>too bad. That's too bad. That's what it is, and

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 2>it is a real art to be able to.

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<v Speaker 5>Do it is ADR, and voiceover is a whole different game.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just an absolutely different game, and you have to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to dissect yourself from it and listen to

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<v Speaker 5>the line as a separate person and try to mimic

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<v Speaker 5>it back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a whole different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And you have to hear the line before in

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the line after so that you blend into it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the mic has to be in the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>So some ADR can be perfect, and if I get

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<v Speaker 2>ADR that someone else's shot not so much most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you tell us what ADR stands for, just for

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<v Speaker 5>all our dear listeners out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it stands for automatic dialogue replacement. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>also referred to as looping. And how that came into

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>being was way back in the day before pro tools

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. They would take the line on film.

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<v Speaker 2>They would take the line that you have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they would loop it over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over for the actor to listen to and then okay,

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<v Speaker 2>got it. Then they go into record record it and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they would do that. So that's how it

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<v Speaker 2>was known as looping. Yeah, but ADR is very interchangeable,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>An additional dialogue recording could be that.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be that too, I don't know really well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also interesting like.

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<v Speaker 4>The way they have to so if you have to

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<v Speaker 4>replace the line, they have to put the beeps.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they also do visuals because it depends on

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<v Speaker 3>who the actor like. Sometimes actors need it to be visual.

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<v Speaker 4>The lines cross the screen right at the moment when

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to start the line right, and then other

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 4>people are audio and you need the be to know

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<v Speaker 4>when to start, and then you have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Like watch your lips.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it is such a weird art form. I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>complete audio person, so I need to like basically, if

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 4>I hear it, I can repeat it exactly the way

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<v Speaker 4>I did it. But if I try and watch and match,

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<v Speaker 4>I get all screwed up and I get out of

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<v Speaker 4>my head. But if I'm like, if I'm just close

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<v Speaker 4>my eyes listen to it, I can repeat a line

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the way I said.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you'll There's times like for the visual people out there,

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<v Speaker 5>it literally looks like Luke Skywalker is making the run

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<v Speaker 5>to blow up the Death Star, and he's looking at

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<v Speaker 5>a screen and those two lines are coming, and then

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 5>he when it hits the middle, he's got to hit

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<v Speaker 5>the button for the photon torpedoes, and everyone just went.

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 3>They're not photon torpedoes. But that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>And what makes it even more difficult is when you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing ADR and you have to eight R project that,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 5>for instance, has already been animated. So we'll do things

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 5>where it's like it's a you know, when I did

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Howl's Moving castle there, the lip flaps are already done

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<v Speaker 5>for the Japanese animation, so you have to go in

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<v Speaker 5>and try to fit the English dialogue into these mouthflaps.

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Still clean it up somewhat, but they're mouth flaps.

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<v Speaker 5>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't ever say lip flaps or mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to again. I never want to hear it again.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 5>Just on the beep, put it in the mouth flaps.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:17.479
<v Speaker 5>That's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, I beg of you. I never want to hear

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>it again. You said, you said it twice. You changed

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>lip flaps, which is the worst to mouth. It's what

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>it's called. It's what it's called. It's them literally literally

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<v Speaker 1>shivering every time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just if I just keep saying moist moist mouth,

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 5>moist mouth flaps, most moist mouthflow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the only people in the world who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get bothered by moist.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I'm getting Danielle a shirt that just says

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 5>mouth flaps is the worst Number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Merch.

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<v Speaker 5>Have another question for you, because a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 5>I think when they go on like the Universal Tour

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<v Speaker 5>or one of these kind of things, one of the

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 5>things they will learn about is fully and so can

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 5>you explain to us a little bit what folly is

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<v Speaker 5>and how that's different than what you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, I will get it depends on the show

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and the show's budget. Like a single camera show will

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>always have a fully fully department walk it and do

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>it something like for Boy. You know, multicams don't really

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>have that kind of budget. So if we needed something

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't footsteps, then that's something I just do on

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the stage And I do my own folly here in

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>my studium. Except footsteps. They are the worst. They are

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>so hard to get those. Oh yeah, because it has

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to be matched the environment it's in so with. As

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, I have a library of Boy

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and Girl Meets World footsteps that I've pulled from all

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes that because it's on a sound stage.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I can those will blend in on an interior shot

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>really well. I use them all the time, but exterior

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>footsteps is a whole other story. That's just my nightmare.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, So but what fully is I'm trying to

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>see the best way to say this. Sometimes it's faster

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>to fully something, so you're recreating a sound in sync

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>with the picture. And if there's a lot of like like,

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>for instance, I just finished a show that had somebody

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>had a pistol and they were moving it around a lot.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So rather than get my pistol sound effects out, I say, oh,

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>this one goes here, blah blah, I just folly it.

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I just got a pistol from a prop shop, came

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 2>home and just I just emulated the action and it

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>was like ten minutes versus probably an hour and a half,

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 2>so you know. And then there's also another point of folly,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>which kind of goes into matching lips a little bit,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>is international distribution. So every show, every show that Disney

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>puts out, goes out into the world in those languages.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's a whole again, that's a whole nother world.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh my god, is it? Ever, it's more work

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>to do a foreign mix than it is to do

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a domestic one, because if you're sitting here talking and

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 2>you hear this while I'm talking, well, we're going to

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>replace that voice, but now we have to also match.

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I have the sounds every time, and then also when

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>people are moving and in English, in a regular one,

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Danielle, if you moved back in your chair,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't expect to hear that, But if it's completely

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>being rebuilt and you move back, it's like you miss

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 2>the sound that there. I should hear a little creek

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>or something there.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, you know.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and then the worst part of all is

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>what you finished with it. Then it goes to QC

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Quality Control and they are just like have microscopes trying

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>to find mistakes, and it's just I would rather get

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a root canal than do em. Andy. Seriously, Wow, I

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>have a friend.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 4>I have a friend who's in quality control, who's one

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 4>of my CLI and he's been in it for at

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 4>this point, like fifteen years, and it's you know, he's

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 4>a position, you know, so I think he has one

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 4>of those ears too, like but yeah, it seems like

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 4>a nightmare. I mean, and when when he first started,

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 4>he would just always be at home watching DVDs in

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 4>like three languages, Like he would have to watch a

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 4>movie in every language with different.

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Subtitles just to be quality.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 4>From now he runs the company, but he started just

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>being a watcher, like that was his job. I'm like,

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, he'd have to watch Die Hard like

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 4>fourteen times, you know, fourteen different languages with the different stuff.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh my.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 4>But I think the most fun part about Foley is

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 4>when things sound better with different objects, so you're not

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<v Speaker 4>just recreated, but like you know, like I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like punch sounds will be like hitting a wet

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 4>piece of paper, or like you know, like a bullet

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 4>going into something would be like a watermelon squishing. You know,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>like all these weird sounds that they have to recreate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the famous one. Find his videos that are amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>The famous one is the is the Psycho shower scene

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<v Speaker 5>where he's stabbing the water It's he's stabbing a watermelon

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 5>over and over, which gives the sound of sounding I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it's just like so creepy. Yeah, that's the that's

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<v Speaker 5>it's the famous breaking well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know, that's because they did it with an

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<v Speaker 2>extra first, but then the extra died so that they

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<v Speaker 2>got the watermelon finished.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few people you only few people know that story.

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right.

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It's we talked about the perils of being a background

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>actor sometimes you have.

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>It's only one thing to be concerned about. That.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you mentioned will coming in for a d R.

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Did we have to do a lot of ADR on

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World In Girmeys World?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Uh, and Boy the year that you went to

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Disney World, you and Ben had a scene out in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a big water fountain.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>How could I forget it? So so we looped.

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>That whole thing and you came in. You both came

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in for that.

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>But my favorite, actually my favorite Boy Meets World story

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is for the pilot. We need to bend him to

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>loop something. And so he came in. I got him

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>set up in his chair and put his headphones on

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>him and he was just like why I, Oh my god,

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.439
<v Speaker 2>this is so cool. Can I go get my mom?

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the cutest thing ever. And like you know,

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 2>he will he will always be that little I don't

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>know how old he wasn't ten, maybe he will always

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>in my mind be that little awestruck boy that he

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>was doing this, you know, so sweet. Yeah, it's very cute.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So how many sound techs or engineers are usually working

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>on a TV show at once? And then how many

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>shows are you usually working on it once? Like are

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you working you know how many different shoes?

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you mean, like on a weekly schedule?

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Schedule?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really varies. I've had years that I've had

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 2>fourteen series, so I'd either do like three a day

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>and then two on the weekends, or you know that

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>four she only I haven't had that a long time.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, money is only good for so much,

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 2>and then you go, you know what I will pay

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you to let me not do this. As a matter

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 2>of fact, during pilot season, I usually have one hundred

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars bill that I put hide away and then if

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, it's four in the morning, here's one

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, I want to go and it doesn't work,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 2>I still have the same hundred dollars. But yeah, so

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>as far as as you know, again, it depends on

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the type of show. So a multi kit budget, a

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>multi camera show will have a dialogue editor and Oftentimes

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that editor also does the effects, but sometimes it's split

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>up depending on how involved it is. Then, so that's two.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>And then there's the music composer music editor. Usually they

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 2>are not the same person. So the music the music

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 2>editor goes through and you know, the composer, I say

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I want this queue here, this queue here, this queue here,

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.959
<v Speaker 2>and then and he'll he or she will make it fit.

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Then there's myself and the supervising editor, who is usually

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the dialogue or music effects editor. He sits with in

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 2>the room with me, the laugh guy. And then there's

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 2>a tech that our pro tools tech was in another room,

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>but if I have any kind of problems or anything,

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 2>he's there to figure it out real quick. So that's

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 2>about EAT people.

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 3>So were you working with Ray Colecord?

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you worked directly with Ray who did our

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 5>music for all of Boy.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah Girl too.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, until he got.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we lost Ray, but he was a great guy.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Amazing talent, wonderful person. It was that I could. I

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go to the funeral because I was working. I

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 2>was so sad, you know, it's like, oh man, yeah,

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>And I stay in touch with his wife. She moved

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to New York. But we're friends. But that was that

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was yeah. And you know, one of the fun things

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>is when Ray and Michael would get into a fight, which.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 3>With the really I always thought they got along perfectly,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 3>but but Michael's consider composer a musician.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And they would you know, well, Ray would feel strongly

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>it needs to be this, and he would argue and

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>he would stand up and blah blah blah, and I

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 2>would just get my chair and I just just like, Okay,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>let me know when you're ready.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Who would usually win those fights Michael Michael, of course,

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and I went.

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 4>He would get obsessed with music line readings. I can

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 4>imagine going, you.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Have a literal music genius with Ray gold Gord, and

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna argue about how should be flexible.

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 3>He could do anything like and remember just like we

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 3>would be.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 4>We would he would like throw like something would be

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 4>in the script, like we need a jazz number, and

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 4>he would have it within like a day.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 3>It would be the best song you've ever heard, or.

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 4>We have a hip hop song we need to dance.

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 4>It was just like he would just effortlessly produced it.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 4>The one episode we did of the first episode I

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 4>directed of Girlman's World was the nineteen sixty whatever.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the same to the table read.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 4>And Sabrina just sang a song like like jazzy acapella.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 4>She just sang a song and he wrote down what

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 4>notes she was singing and then composed a song based

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 4>on what she sang. And he just heard her. He's like,

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, she's got perfect pitch. And she sang this note,

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.720
<v Speaker 4>this note, this note, so I wrote he wrote a

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 4>song based on her table spontaneous performance was amazing.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, so cool.

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 5>He also would come to the set to teach us

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 5>if we ever had to do anything even slightly musical.

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, Ben, when Ben was directing with the with

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 5>the foam finger, he took the time to come down

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 5>to the set and he taught Ben with a baton,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 5>no you want to do this, you want to do that?

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was Yeah. He was a great guy,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>great guy.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Just completely involved. Yes, And when they would would have

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>their disagreements, it was both of them was for the

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 2>best of the show. It's just Ray thought this and

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Michael thought this. And I remember there was once really

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I might have been for the first or the pilot

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>of Girl where my supervisor. She and I both just

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>like duck down, and she just looked at me and

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 2>she went because she had never worked with Michael before.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>And I said, it'll be okay. Just don't worry.

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 3>They don't need each other.

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 2>It's just they're just trying to work this out. But

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>it was entertaining. Yeah, it is.

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 3>It is funny.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I will say that because you think, like you hear

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>those stories that Michael and Ray would fight and probably regularly,

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you think, well, I wonder why Michael, who

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>has entire power to fire Ray and say I'm not

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>going to have you on the show. I will say

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 1>that Michael really respects men who will fight back with him. Yeah,

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>because he did know that Ray fighting with him was

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>because Ray really was fighting for what he thought was

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>best for the show. And Michael did respect that, even

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>if he disagreed with what He liked the fact that

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody was willing to stand up to him and say, no,

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, and here's why and here's what's better. And

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he likes that. He likes that because it means you're passionate,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and he wants that.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 3>He also respected talent.

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 5>I think anybody who met Ray knew that Ray was

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 5>just just phenomenal at what he did.

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Michael spoke so highly of him, like the most talented,

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the most incredible, just the absolute best. So, speaking of Michael,

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>how did you get hired? On Boy Meets World?

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>The first show I did with Michael was Almost Home

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I think, Okay, it was like a follow up to

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the Torko Sun I believe, just before Boy and then yeah,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that only went one, maybe two seasons. So

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>then we did Boy and it just you know, we

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>all just clicked. It was it was just that's what

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I said. I just looked forward to those mixes so

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>much because and Michael is, without a doubt, the best

0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>joke tiller of anybody in the world. There's nobody, matter

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 2>of fact, the voice mamals recording him doing a joke.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I still have one. I still have one about the parrot, uh,

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>just because it's just you just you just marvel at

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 2>his ability to just take a very simple story and

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>just turn it into this. You know, and the people

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.439
<v Speaker 2>that know Michael, like Jack is the laugh guy. Jack

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>and I will Jack and I tell jokes a lot,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and then we both Michael tells that better and we

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>still do that.

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Amazing he really was an amazing joke teller.

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 5>He could build a joke on a joke, he'd do

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 5>a callback in the middle of a joke.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he really is.

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I remember one time, man, we were on set and

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 4>somebody brought up a stand up comedian too Michael. They

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 4>were like, do you know this stand up And He's like,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 4>I know them all. I watched them all he was

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 4>and that verson was like, well do you know this bit?

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 4>And Michael was able to remember exactly which comedian the

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 4>guy was talking about which bit. I was like, wow,

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 4>he studies. Yes, he watches every stand up comedian, knows

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:56.280
<v Speaker 4>every single story.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It was yeah, yeah, Well, when you think about it,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like it requires more to be a comedian than this,

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>But the base of it is you have to be

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>able to tell a good story, and then on top

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of that you have to be there are other skills

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you need, but like, if you can't tell a good story,

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be a good comedian.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:11.959
<v Speaker 3>It's true.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 5>And then for people are usually musical, I mean, there's

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 5>a musicality to joke telling.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 4>And Might always had that comedians are musicians exactly. But

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 4>he would always point to like the fact that Woody

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Allen plays jazz, you know, like people are like they

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 4>actually are.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Usually musicians first, or drummers.

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Steve Martin, everybody, all these kind of people.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 5>But it's also the best ones are the ones that

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.720
<v Speaker 5>like I always go to Chandler on Friends to Matthew Perry.

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 5>And one of the reasons he was so funny is

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 5>that sitcom you can always get into the same rhythm.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 5>It can be very much that Dunda set up jo

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>And the reason he was so good is that you

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 5>never knew where he was going to go.

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 3>It was like jazz.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 5>It was like he played completely offbeat and it was

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 5>like whoa that came out of nowhere. And that was

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 5>one of the things where you find some of these

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 5>men and women that can kill it where it's just

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 5>you think they're going one place with a joke and

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 5>it goes to completely different, right, which yeah, Michael definitely has.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, whatever he'd start up, you know, because every

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>week he'd come in with a new joke, and whenever

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 2>he starts to start up, I'd go, Okay, where is

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>this going? Where is this? Yeah, I'm gonna try to

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>go It was never right never, you know.

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 1>So while you were working on Boy and you saw

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it go through so many changes over the years.

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you think this show is going to be a.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Hit Boy Meets World Initially, Well, because it was in

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the TGIF lineup, I thought that it would be it

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 2>would be popular. I didn't. I didn't foresee it going

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>seven seasons. No, you know, and I'm so glad it

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>did because it just went the whole, you know, the

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 2>whole run from very young to college and getting married

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 2>and all of that. And then Girl. I thought Girl

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>was just brilliant, and you know, all the There was

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of location shots in uh Girl, because they

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 2>were in New York, and I go to New York frequently,

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 2>so I would say, I know where that fountain is.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get that fountain, and I go and

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I record the fount because iways put my gear with

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 2>me record the fountain or all the subway stuff, all

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 2>the subway sounds like, especially in that first episode of

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the Girl, that's all from my library, and it's just

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>like that means so much to me. It doesn't I

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>don't charge anybody for that. It's just for me. It's like,

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not how that train sounds, this is how it sounds,

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, like I get very I get very

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>picky with like phone rings, Like I don't know if

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys remember what a princess phone looks like. Of course,

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 2>of course they have a very distinct ring, completely different

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 2>than like a regular.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Desk phone and still talks about it.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So if I see if there's a princess phone

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in my editor puts in a regular phone ring, I'm like,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>uh uh uh uh no here, and I'll send them

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a princess phone ring. Put that in.

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, you gotta be do you do you think

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 5>you hear the world more than you see the world.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I think so, Yeah, I think so.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Sot it's so cool.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I would never I would never think that's an What

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that fountain sounds like? I would to me, you went

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to New York and recorded the right fountain.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I was in New York. I know where that is.

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to record it.

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>We're going to put it in, you know, and then

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>three people in the world know about this, but there

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>we are. So it's just my little quirk, my little quirk.

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Another thing, another thing that used to really bug me

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to death, which you don't have anymore's payphones, because when

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>when you had. When you were done talking and you

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>put down the receiver, the coins that you would put

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 2>in would then go through into the little hold.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I remember that.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, you watch old movies and you will never hear that.

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.919
<v Speaker 2>And so I was working at a studio called Metromedia

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>back in the day. UH that's now that was torn

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>down and now it's a high school. And there was

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a pay phone up but two floors up from where

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the sound where I was working. So that was way

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 2>before having phones that you could record. Unless you had

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>a nog Brother, there's no way you could remotely record anything.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>So my assistant and I found a really long mike

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 2>cable and we ran it all the way up to

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>that up to where that payphone was, and we recorded

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 2>that and then we had it and it's like, Okay,

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>now we're going to do that because I can't stand that.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Another thing to listen for anything Like back in UH,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>anything that was mixed at Universal back in the sixties

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and seventies, they always had the same phone ring, Like

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 2>in the opening title of UH. The Rockford Files, the

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>phone rings and then it's just answering machine. The answers.

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 2>This is James rock Jim Rockford leave a message. I'll

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>get back to you. That phone ring is in every

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>every everything that you know, any TV thing from Universal,

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd hear the phone Oh I bet this is Universal.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah it is.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 3>So it's like.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Which my son recognized. He called it out one day

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 4>we were watching Yes. He was like, Dad, have you

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 4>ever noticed that whenever people fall in a movie they

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 4>sound exactly the same?

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, and we watched like it was in

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Indiana Jones. I was like this one. I was like,

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 3>that's the Wilhelm screen.

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, yeah, it's it's an all.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Actually it's said twice in the Two Towers, the blur

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 2>of the ring stuff, but it's in every Oh.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we tried.

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have one producer who's like, got to

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 2>find a place for the Wilhelm screen. Got to find

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a place, you know.

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And so it's just it's like, yeah, it's a tribute,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like writer said, yeah, So I think I'm going to

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>know the answer to this, But I have to ask it.

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Are you even able to watch TV or movies without

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>just focusing on the sound and it's small issues?

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if it's engaging, yes, okay, But like

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time seeing Raiders of the Lost

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Arc at the Chinese I was so enthralled with the

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 2>sound that I kept going in and out of the

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>story and I'll be like, where are we? How do

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>we get here? Because I was listening to because that

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that the sound in that movie is amazing, and uh,

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I had to go back and see it the next day. Okay,

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>now I want to see what really helpens because I

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>couldn't pay attention to now and if something if it's

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 2>not appropriate, the sound isn't appropriate, or if the adr

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 2>really stands out, that'll totally pull me out of it.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 3>It does me too, situation totally.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Good, Oh what was that? Or something's out of sync,

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like over over the shoulder shots so you know the

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 2>camera's behind me and I'm talking here and you can

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 2>see my mouth moving. Well, if that's not in sync

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 2>with what you.

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 5>Hear, yes, crazy, I do the same crazy, And you

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 5>can do when you can tell that a line has

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 5>been looped when it just doesn't match and it's like, Okay,

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 5>they just threw that, that's adr they grab that from

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 5>another take.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 3>That drives me nuts.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Or put a different person said it, that's not even

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the same person sounds horrible.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, oh man, it's not the If you want

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 5>to have some fun, go back. If you want to

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 5>just well, for you, it wouldn't be fun to be infuriating.

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 5>Some of the old eighties cartoons. Oh really, Transformer's Mask.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:04.280
<v Speaker 5>There were times where just they would lip flaps wouldn't

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 5>be moving at all.

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Claps you do flaps, not mouth flaps.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Slip slip.

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 5>She loves it, you can tell by her face, or

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 5>just another actor would be speaking and they go, we

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 5>don't have time to reanimate it, so just keep it

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 5>as the wrong actor in the wrong character.

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 3>It's so amazing. It's like they don't even try at

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 3>this point.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I've been really honing in on fully lately. I'm

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>working on a spoof, a spoof for Batman fires the

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Justice League, and it's like, if you guys ever go

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to college humor, look up uh Batman Joker Interrogation, look

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that up, and it's those actors and seen that director,

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that those writers. That was like ten years ago that

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 2>we did that. Now he's he's got this thing. So

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 2>we have six four to six minute bits that are Batman.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it is so funny.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, it's a Christian Bale Batman, it is, but

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 3>they do a.

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Spoof on on the Robert Pattison one, so he's the

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Batman versus Batman. So we have Aquaman, Cyborg, Wonder Woman,

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the Batman, Superman, and the Joker. Who's anyway. So I

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.760
<v Speaker 2>had never seen any of the any of those movies

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>because I just don't have time to also my head.

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm into Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Game of Thrones, and I just

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have anyone. I don't have any more ruined my

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 2>head to know stuff, you know. I mean, we can

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 2>talk silly really and all you want, but I don't

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 2>know what comes in America is So I thought, if

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be if I'm going to be doing this,

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, because they have, you know, the Lasso of

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Truth for wonder Woman. They have like every every character

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>has their own little thing and we can't steal that sound,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>but they want to come as close as possible. So

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I okay, Well, so I'm watching Justice League. I just

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I got zoned into the folly in that movie. I

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>was just like, holy, oh my god. I mean these

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 2>are features so they can spend a day trying to

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 2>get a sound. I mean, it's not like you got

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 2>two hours to do this movie. It's not like that.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:18.399
<v Speaker 2>It's they can just feature Folly is incredible, and I'll

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>just you know, every now and then I'll just get

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>hooked into one thing and then everything I watch, I'm

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching that playing attention tonight. So that's just the life.

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Of my world.

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>So what advice would you give to someone wanting to

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>get into this career, especially if they're just learning about

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.319
<v Speaker 1>it right now from this podcast episode.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, the first thing is somebody who wants to get that,

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, choose another path because there are hundred thousands

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 2>of people that know pro tools. You know, it's not

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>unique now like it once was so then once it's

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>so much of it is luck and being getting into

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the right place at the right time, you know. Like

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.240
<v Speaker 2>when I first started, all of the Norman Laar shows

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>were shot at Metromedia where I recorded the phone hanging

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 2>up and I came in as an overnight person to

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 2>help the people in post production sound. So I worked

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 2>on you know, All in the Family, the Jefferson's Good Times,

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, all of the Norman lay shows.

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Well that was.

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what an incredible beginning. So then as people

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 2>in that there are only three of us in that department.

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So then the first person that left was the laugh guy.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 2>So then I became the laugh guy for a year,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 2>and then the next year the mixer left, so that

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I became the mixer. So that was like very you know,

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.399
<v Speaker 2>right place, right time, you know, I mean, you could

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 2>have the most amazing qualities as a mixer, but if

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you aren't in the right place, if you don't know

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 2>how to get in there, it's it's I don't know

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>how I would tell anybody to even pursue that really was.

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It was an incredible You think about my very first

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>experience orients in Hollywood was working with Norman Lair and

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.959
<v Speaker 2>his his shows. I think, does it get much better

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 2>than that?

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 5>Some of the best shows ever in the history of

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 5>television right there.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, amazing, absolutely groundbreaking.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, and then go.

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 2>To rap parties and I would talk to him and

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 2>just tell him how much it meant to me. You know.

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I remember telling Carol o' connor how much how much

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I loved his character and loved him, and he was

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, sweetie, and kind of of my face,

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 2>just like crazy and going to a One Day to

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Time rap party when Valerie and Eddie were just dating.

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 2>They had just started really and it was so cute

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 2>because they're like holding hands. They kind of walked around.

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 2>He had on a powder blue tuxedo with like a

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:45.320
<v Speaker 2>ruffled shirt.

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, just Eddie van Helen. He can

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 3>wear whatever you want, I know, but it.

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Was, you know, it was just so sweet. It just

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 2>watching them together. Everybody nobody, you know, bothered them, but

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 2>everybody was just like, oh, that's so cute. Uh So, yeah,

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 2>it was a great beginning. And I still work. There's

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 2>one producer actually, the One Day to Time producer, Patricia Palmer.

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I still I still work with her. I did One

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Day at Time, was a reboot that we've just finished.

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Then I did another series earlier last year called How

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 2>We Roll with Pete Holmes, who is the guy that

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>plays the Batman and Maget and stuff. So time. Yeah, yeah,

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 2>and you know, she and I have lunch together frequently,

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>and we've known each other since nineteen seventy seven and

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I was only two. The ones that makes sense of course,

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 2>of course, they made special allowances for child labor.

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<v Speaker 1>You worked on so many shows on TV, from Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>to Punky Brewster, to news radio to Motown forty to

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<v Speaker 1>just shoot me. Did you ever think you would be

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<v Speaker 1>here thirty years later talking about Boy Meets World? And

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<v Speaker 1>what are your feelings about boy and Girl Meets World?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's see first of all those lists that you

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<v Speaker 2>that you laid off, that you did, I only did

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of episodes of Seinfeld. I did the pilot

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<v Speaker 2>news Radio about the series.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's one more that you said, great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was that was crazy though. There there

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<v Speaker 2>was one more that you mentioned that I only worked

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple. So I just want to clear that up.

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<v Speaker 1>So right in case people think you did all of that, give.

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<v Speaker 2>Those mixers their props because they deserve it. Uh No,

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<v Speaker 2>I would not. I couldn't even have imagined. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was in San Diego working at a recording studio, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to make more than a dollar seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five an hour, you know, and and then I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, well, the only way I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 2>any money at this is I got to get up

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<v Speaker 2>to LA. So I got up to LA and then

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<v Speaker 2>my career just you know, just took off, and for

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<v Speaker 2>me to think, now, in twenty twenty seven, I will

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<v Speaker 2>have been here fifty years. Wow, And that's that's my

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holding out for twenty twenty seven before I say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to cut back a little bit, you know,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>because I've always wanted That's just been a goal of

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>mine to say I did this for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that makes sense, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look back so fondly on Girl and Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the people we've lost, like Arlen and Grayson,

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 2>which was horrible. Ray Yeah, just recently Matt Nelson. I mean,

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 2>these were people I loved. Yeah, and you know there

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>were you know, Michael has this posse that comes with

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 2>him to everything, and so the posse would come in

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, I just those sessions were just

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the highlight of my week. And I'll tell you something else.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom died in nineteen ninety two, and all of

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the show shows I was working on, I'll set flowers

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 2>she my parents were in Missouri, and so Boy sent flowers.

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 2>But then Michael told Karen McCain, who took Arlene's place,

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<v Speaker 2>that he wanted to send me flowers, and so he

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 2>sent me a dozen white roses just in sympathy for

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<v Speaker 2>having lost my mom. Had nothing to do with that.

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>It was just for me. It's just like the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was from when you were on Almost Home.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if your mom died in ninety two, boy didn't

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>start until ninety three, so.

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Really, so then okay, then that's when it was You're.

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, it was Almost Home and that's the first thing

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you had ever worked with him on. So it's not

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 1>even like he did that because well, she's been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my team for years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>That was just something he just cared.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I totally lied about the rest of that.

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. I remember way, who are you a kain? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I I remember in.

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 2>My own way, you know, whether it's I always tell

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to people just you know, get the gist of what

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, not the details.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, we're gonna have to go to lunch sometime

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 5>because I want to hear those news radio stories. Oh,

0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 5>I would have to go. I would love to go those.

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:01.959
<v Speaker 5>That was one of my favorite shows, So I would.

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 5>And then I worked with that whole crew right after

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 5>Boy Me to World.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh did you on this on the show?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we did, We did a show with that. I

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 5>did a show with Andy Dick and Everyone was not

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 5>a good show called Go Fish, but it was the whole.

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 5>A lot of the crew coming off of news radio.

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I would love to hear some of that stuff.

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know it was challenging.

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>And mostly because of the TV like that.

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Mostly because of the technology. If we had had what

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>we have now with pro Tools, it would have been

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 2>so much easier. But this is everything's being played back

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on tape. Well, if you want to move something, you know,

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 2>five frames earlier, got a coffee it, copy it off

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 2>from the tape to another tape, then the tape five

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 2>frames and then he gets back of it. I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So cool.

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, pro Tools changed everybody's lives for the better. Definitely.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, Tamara, we can't thank you enough for being here

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and sharing your time with us. You were an absolutely

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>wonderful guest. Thank you for educating not just our dear listeners.

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 3>But all of us.

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely on what goes into your job. And thank you

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>for all the years and and uh dedication you put

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>into making Boy Meet and Girl Meets World as.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Much as my pleasure. Don't we made like Grandchild Meats World?

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>You never know you know, I'd like I'd like a

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>contact for Jack the laugh Guy, please, I want to

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:19.959
<v Speaker 1>tell you more to Jack.

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I don't know if he would, if he would, come.

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.960
<v Speaker 3>On, Jack may refuse to talk to us. Guy's answering machine.

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 2>They're very it's nothing, Hi, this is Jack. Leave a message.

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean, I think everybody knows now

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that shows are left, you know, oh yeah, right, but

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty years ago it was sort of like, no,

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 2>we don't know. And I have worked with producers that

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 2>they shoot in front of a live audience. But if

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>that joke didn't get a laugh, he's.

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Like, they're not going to put it didn't.

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Get a laugh, Nope, don't put anything in there. And

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 2>in that case he uses the laugh Guy to smooth edits.

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Mostly know, like, you know, this has applause and then

1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 2>we cut and it cuts off, so we need to

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 2>smooth that. And uh, you know. So there are those

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 2>with integrity that say, nope, we didn't earn it, so

1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing it. Not doing that. But I will

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:13.959
<v Speaker 2>tell you, well, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, thank you so much for great to

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<v Speaker 1>see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I can't believe that, so no wonder we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have super vivid memories of her, even though she

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<v Speaker 1>worked on every single episode, because.

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<v Speaker 4>It always post was post was a mystery, especially with

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<v Speaker 4>multi camera I knew nothing about multi caamer post until

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<v Speaker 4>I was directing Girl. That was when I finally like

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<v Speaker 4>went to editing sessions and I was like, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we would actually a lot of our editing was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of done on the fly. Yeah, they would be cutting

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<v Speaker 4>between cameras for the live studio audience and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Often that would be the edit.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, it wouldn't change that much, And it wasn't, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>our at least I thought so until I directed. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you get in there and you're like, no, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to cut to this camera. I want to come

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<v Speaker 4>to that camera, you know, and you have that creative input,

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<v Speaker 4>but like post for as actors, you never know what

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<v Speaker 4>post production is like.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the little minutia of you know, the idea

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<v Speaker 5>that she's getting the recording of a regular payphone and

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<v Speaker 5>get I mean that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that she went to a prop house and

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<v Speaker 1>got a pistol and then in her own place is

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting around.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's I could talk about that stuff all

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<v Speaker 3>day too.

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<v Speaker 4>Man Fully in particular is like my favorite thing in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. I just I love watching fully sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>I would yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would totally like another job in Hollywood that would that

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<v Speaker 4>I would kill to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like just you know, fully artists, we so much

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<v Speaker 3>so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah great, Well, thank you all for joining us

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the amount?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times do you think we've heard at fifteen and.

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<v Speaker 5>Just this part of the part of the lexicon. We

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<v Speaker 5>say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do it again. We love you all. Pod dismissed

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<v Speaker 3>was I thinking? I would have done it too, you Chirk.

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<v Speaker 5>Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted

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<v Speaker 3>And Ryder Strong.

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