1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Shoot, add Mad Money Smith 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: to the payroll. I can't get behind that. Welcome to 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My name 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: is Dan Hands. I'm joined and they were filled with 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and the Gregg Rowth call. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Hey Dad? All right? Money ain't 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: getting paid by us? Yeah, you know, so there's somebody here. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to go all west here. Somebody's gotta 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: pay daddy a little bit more in the building. I'm 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: going upstairs soon. I'm knocking at some doors. Well, money's 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: earning that Moniker just got another a nationally televised show 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: he's hosted with Tim Tebow coming up. So I'm excited 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: to have who else there's a friend that's so like successful. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he'd consider us 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: a friends, but we know him and he success. Colleague. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: That's colleague is probably the safer. He invited us out 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: to lunch. Yeah, that's what a friend does. You don't 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: feel like you have any other friends you would categorize 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: as successful. Greg No, I mean I'm saying it's nice. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: It's nice to see it. Guy like Money doing well, 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: generating multiple argumentative conversations before we get to the air. 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Can you imagine Greg table means it's Thanksgiving? Can you 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: imagine what's going on in uh Wilbraham when Greg gets 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of wines in them and it's fine. 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, no one, no one in my family has 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: lived in Wilbraham and in a long decade. But uh yeah, 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not the only annoying one at the 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Rosenthal family table, that's for sure. Greg gets more relaxed 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: the more drinks. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't work 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: on the opposite of I'm pretty chill. You're an anti 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: contrarian with a couple of pops or whatever. Alright, this 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: is the Week twelve preview show, uh in in case 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: you missed it, uh the first three games of Week 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: twelve a k Thanksgiving Thursday, November. We did a podcast 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: that we released on Tuesday morning or Tuesday afternoon, depending 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: where you are, that had the preview of Chicago, Detroit, Washington, Dallas, 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: and Atlanta, New Orleans in addition to our recap at 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: the Monday Night Classic between the Chiefs and Rams. So 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: make sure you check that out if you haven't already, 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: or if you're going on a road trip, like West 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: is in a nightmare scenario, whereas paramore fiance Lakisha is 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: saying you need to get up at five in the 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: morning on Thanksgiving Day to drive up to Oakland when 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: you live in l A. And West is like, but 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: we're going out tonight, Wednesday night, and Lakisha is like, 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't care. It means a lot to me. And 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: West is about to learn that when you get engaged, 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: when there's a ring, you start losing battles. Yeah, sometimes 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: though they're not going though it doesn't seem like they're going. West, 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: You're right, and that's gonna be true, I'm sure over 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: a long range. But West, I feel like it's a 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: tough man to win an argument against, even if even 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: if you're out. I think Lakisha is no pushover. He's 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: just a new territory. And in this scenario, I blame 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: myself for not realizing ahead of time that our game 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: plan was flawed and any idea of of driving out 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: of l A on a Wednesday is pure insanity. So 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: now it's changed to drive out at five o'clock on 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: a Thursday after partying with maybe the three of you 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: guys and John and Colleen. It's it's a bad game 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: plan from the I would just let it play out 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: because so many variables could bubble up between now and 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: that that make any sort of a five am departure 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: not only impossible to you, but to her. She may 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: be the one that comes out on This solution is 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: let nature and take it close. Make sure Lakisha has 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: a good time tonight. Yeah, and don't let her listen 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast or that. I would say, nobody ever 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: has to really make sure Lakisha has a good time. 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get it. So we're gonna get 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: into the rest of uh the week. Twelve games UM 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: and two teams on by this week, the Chiefs and 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: the Rams, which was because they deserved they were in 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Mexico or they were supposed to be, so I guess 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: they built out a bye for both teams. It's probably 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: why they did that, right smart after international games, every 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: team has so they weren't going to change the schedule 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: for by. So they're both off this week, so their 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: last device of the season. That's it. That's it. There 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: will be less scoring this week, but we have a 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of games to get too, So let's get right 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: into its starting with the early games. UH and UH. 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders two and eight, gotta win UH last 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: week against the Cardinals. So John Gruden, you got to 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: see Chucky smile if that's something that you you care 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: to see, or I feel like most of the country 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: likes to see Chucky scowling and upset. But here's here's 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: the good news. They're going to Baltimore. UH. And the 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Ravens are coming off a win there five and five 90 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and Mark Uh here's uh a Lamar Jackson another start 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: for Jackson? What what are we hearing right now? We 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: don't have an official word, but it sounds like they're 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: very open to him. Go. It's weird because John Harbaugh 94 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: has bristled at the whole quarterback thing during the week 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: and seems to not want to talk about what you 96 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: do long range. I think I would I would guess 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: right now that they put Lamar Jackson back in if 98 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: there's any issues with Joe Flacco being inflexible and being 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: sort of a stone age pony in the pocket that 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: can't we've you got a guy or you based your 101 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: whole offense and loved it just like I don't know, 102 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: like he just like you can't count on Flacco to 103 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: do anything with his feet is not mobile? Are you 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: calling fac Fluco? I think Fleco is what I settled on. 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: He's like a little bit in between. Remember, I think 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: this all hip injury has been has been strange. But 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I think they really would love to see Lamar Jackson 108 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: out there for another week, especially considering the the opponent, 109 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: and see what they can do, see what they can 110 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: add to the offense. And I almost felt like, and 111 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the game at that point, that the 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson first start, like everyone's taking it and stride like, 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: oh that was cool, Like can't he keep doing it? Though? 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like I've never seen a game like 115 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: that out of a quarterback in my life, Like, even 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: if you can't keep doing it forever, it's incredible what 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: he did. It's incredible to watch a team play offense 118 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight teens so differently. And I 119 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: thought he might be the best running quarterback to enter 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the league since Michael Vick. I still feel the same way. 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: His burst is just amazing, and he did have it's 122 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: almost eight year it's per attempting that game and make 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: three pretty big third and long throws a second and 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: seventeen conversion. He doesn't well. He also nearly threw a 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: terrible interception on the run, and he did he did 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: throw an interception in the run. Oh, it wasn't perfect 127 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: by any means, but he made some plays with his arm, 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: and it's just fascinating to watch, like even if like 129 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be a great next quarterback, 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: but man, if you can't have fun watching Lamar Jackson, 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: it's like he's from another planet. Also, if you're a 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff under fire and you want to make some 133 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: pitch to stick around, don't you want to show that 134 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you can work with Lamar Jackson versus putting him back 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: on the bench and doing what you've done with Joe 136 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Flacco forever. You're playing a terrible run defense, which is 137 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: what they had against the Bengals last week, so you 138 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: can do probably the same thing. You can try the 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: same thing against And if you're the Raiders, um and 140 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: who knows if they have the personnel to do this 141 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: in defense, But you're looking at that table like you're 142 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: probably thinking yourself, all right, our number one move here 143 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: is to make this guy keep him in the pocket, 144 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: don't let him get out. Uh, make sure if he 145 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: beats you, you make him use his arm, because that 146 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: was untested largely in his first start. So I think 147 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: it's I would be highly I would be shocked if 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: he ends up, uh, you know, approaching the same number 149 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: as he had last week, because it's no longer a 150 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: novelty acting. I mean, the Raiders have one game all 151 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: year with more than one sack, So they can't rush 152 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the passer, and they can't stop the Raiders, and they 153 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: don't travel well east. They're also one of the worst 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: tackling teams in the league. They saw right, I think 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: killed top it. Like I would take the over on 156 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: a hundred yards from Lara Jackson because he in that 157 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: game last week he had a lot of great runs, 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: didn't have any like long runs and over five yards, 159 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: and he just seems like against the Raiders, I would 160 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: take my chances that he'll pop one for fifty at something. 161 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: No quarterbacks rushed for a hundred plus yards and consecutive 162 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: games since nineteen fifty. Uh and uh, this is the first. 163 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: He was the first quarterback with a hundred plus yards 164 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: since Colin Kaepernick in two thousand sixteen, who did not 165 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: get a call from the Redskins when they was that? 166 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Was that a game against the Jets or was that 167 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: later to that? How did he to do that later? 168 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Because I remember he flamed the Jets and next rhyme 169 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: was like hair on the That was when he first 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: started playing. Uh, and he had limited snaps. I don't 171 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: think he did enough to get to a hundred, but 172 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: he did flame the Jets and limited work that game. 173 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: I remember that one. That was fun. The Timbo my 174 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: latest gripe with Jon Gruden, who compares Jalen Richard to 175 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Garner. Yet it takes him three months to give 176 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: him a major role in his offense. If he's Charlie Garner, 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: why why doesn't even major rule in September and October? 178 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Give me a break. Let's move on and uh uh 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: he we're you know, off to a little bit of 180 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: a slow start here in the early games. So that's 181 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a theme. Uh. Next up the Jacksonville Jaguars 182 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: season over MS and the Chiefs. That of the week, 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't look as good and some good teams on 184 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to so three and seven Jaguars, who have lost 185 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: six straight and seven of eight. Hard hard to figure 186 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: out how they have collapsed at this level. Travel to 187 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo face the Bills. The Bills are coming off there 188 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: by West uh, and of course they whooped the Jets 189 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: and the metal ends UH in week ten. But this 190 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: is a different story now. UH, it's a rematch if 191 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: you would believe it. West of two wild card teams 192 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: from a year ago. Now they both aren't pay for 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: double digit losses. One of the worst playoff games I've 194 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: ever witnessed, and um, this one might be worse. So well, 195 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: both teams are much worse this year. UH. Josh Allen 196 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: is supposed to practice this week in full, although it's 197 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: not sure that he's going to start. UH. I was 198 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: rewatching some Bills tape because I wanted to um get 199 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: get as much info as I could on Tom Brady. 200 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna say he's in decline and this Bill's 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: defense is it's so underrated and they hit hard. We've 202 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders being one of the worst tackling 203 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. The Bills might be one of 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: the best tackling defenses in the NFL. I don't think 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, just because they're more talented, can expect to 206 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: go in there and win, especially a Florida team coming 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: up to Buffalo. Mean, the Jaguars feel like a philosophical dinosaur, 208 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: where it's let's, you know, build our defense and hope 209 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: we can do enough on offense. In their six game 210 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: losing streak, Blake Bordles has thrown five touchdowns and they 211 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: it worked against the Steelers. What the Jaguars want to 212 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: be worked for almost the three quarter three plus quarters 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, And if you take the second half of 214 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: the Colts game the week before, it feels like their 215 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: defense has been playing pretty pretty well. And what happens 216 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: at the end of that game. They played the Colts 217 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: well overall. I mean not in the first half obviously, 218 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: but like it wasn't a terrible game in the fourth 219 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: quarter that I still put it on the offense. How 220 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: many times in two thousand eighteen can you stop an 221 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: offense like Pittsburgh Steelers. So I put that game on 222 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense for picking up no first downs because 223 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: that game should have been over and Jaguars fans have 224 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: finally it's taken what five years. But I feel like, 225 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: just based on Twitter, they've finally given up on Blake 226 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Boarders like fighting. It seems like they're coaching staff right 227 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: they're fighting, They're not no longer fighting that battle, and 228 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: they are wondering if you're not gonna let Blake Wort's 229 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: throw and you're just trying to just avoid him, basically, 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: like would we be better off would we be better 231 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: off benching him at this point? Why not? I don't know. 232 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have much behind him. That's gonna 233 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna look very different. And you look at the 234 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: top of the draft next year. They keep losing all ASO, 235 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: the Giants wanted a couple of games. Some of these 236 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: finally are a couple of teams out of the mix 237 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Mark Cecil, including your Browns and my Jets. That won't 238 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: be the quarterback hunt, which is very rare, but the 239 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: Jaguars you think will be the Giants will be. And 240 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: you gotta track how these teams finished because it will determine, 241 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: uh likely whether or not they get the top quarterbacks 242 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: in this dray Well. And the problem is because you 243 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: can't play the game or you're hoping that they lose 244 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: out if you're a Giants fan or jacksonp you have 245 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: two coaching staffs that have to prove to the people 246 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: above that they are the right coaching staff, so they're 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: not gonna try to lose out and get the quarterback 248 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: for next year, for the next regime. And one more 249 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: little narrative before we move on. You back in in 250 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: sunnier times in Jacksonville, Jalen Ramsey was having fun with 251 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: the s and and you know, trashing a bunch of 252 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: players that he didn't know personally. He called Josh Allen 253 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: trash before he played an NFL game. I wouldn't mind 254 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: if Jillen Ramsey a little humble pie and this with you. 255 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I think he could use several servings of humble pie. 256 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: Let's let's move on and talk about the Seattle Seahawks 257 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: five and five after that big Thursday night win over 258 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: the Packers, So after a mini by, they traveled to Carolina, 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: UH to face the Panthers, who are on a two 260 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: game losing streaker. Really tough loss in Detroit last week. 261 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: They went for two trying to steal the win. It 262 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: did not work out. So all of a sudden, there's 263 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: six and four in a bit of a dog fight 264 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: uh in the NFC playoff picture. Um, Greg, this is 265 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: a good matchup between two teams that needed w This 266 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: is easily the best game at ten am this week. 267 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I believe too interesting teams, if flawed, who have traditionally 268 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: played really good games. In the Cam Newton Russell Wilson, 269 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: they kind of have a lot of a lot of 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: close games. There's some playoff matchups, there's been some fights. 271 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a quietly intriguing rivalry. Joe Person 272 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: wrote about it uh this week, going back even to 273 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: that they the Panthers once considered drafting Russell Wilson to 274 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: make him Cam Newton's backup and have a little package there. 275 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad that didn't happen. But I don't know if 276 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: the Panthers are a better team here, and I don't 277 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we We expected them to bounce back 278 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: last week and they should have won that game, and 279 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: they probably would have if they're kicker didn't struggle. But 280 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: the problems that they've had defensively just haven't gone away. 281 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: They've been there since week one. That they're not a 282 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: difference making group, and so I think this is a 283 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: game that Seattle can run the ball, that the Panthers 284 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: defensive line hasn't played that well, and that's the type 285 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: of game Seattle wants to play. And there is some 286 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: there's something about the Seattle team. I mean, it's I'm 287 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: going way off of the metrics and all that, but 288 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: I think they have a little bit of mojo in 289 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: them that maybe the Panthers don't. I think the pan 290 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: there they're getting old. They have poured so much draft 291 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: capital into their offense the last two years that their 292 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: their defensive front seven is now filled with guys who 293 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: are thirty or even thirty five and thirty eight. When 294 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Gentleman was there, he religiously kept restocking the front for 295 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the front seven, and they found a way to maximize 296 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: inexpensive cornerbacks. And you had Sean McDermott doing what he does, 297 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and a lot's changed. And it's it's easy to not 298 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: watch them and think it's the same old defense because 299 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: you still have some of the same faces. But it's not. 300 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: And I think I agree with you, Gregor. I think Seattle, 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: the way they took care of business against Green Bay, 302 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect. They got they got in my wheel however, 303 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: win right. I I would honestly rather see them in 304 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs in Carolina. But you know my ripe with Carolina, 305 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I this is a big game for the playoff position. 306 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: They've won three in a row in Carolina. Seattle has 307 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: I am really Sometimes you think you have a figure 308 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: a team figured out, and I felt really good about 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the Panthers last week and they didn't get it done. 310 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: But can I imagine the Panthers losing three games on 311 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the road. I think they're a good team. I think 312 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: they're a playoff team, and with this much on the line. 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Uh And I do respect Seattle and I think they 314 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: do have some good juice to them this year. But 315 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't think the Panthers lose three in a row. 316 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: And I am going to lock it up for the 317 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Come on, guys, let's go. I like it. 318 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I I disagree with Greg and Mark. I think the 319 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Panthers are a better team Seattle's I think it could 320 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: be getting better. Though. Doug Baldwin last week looked like 321 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, and he makes such a difference for that team. 322 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: He's finally healthy and Baldwin and lock it on the 323 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: outside I mean that is a great. That is a great. 324 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: It was great, I think Seattle. I guess the reason 325 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: part partly why I believe in them is I think 326 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: they're a team that can get better throughout the course 327 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: of the season, especially on defense. You have so many 328 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: guys playing new roles, and you would hope Pete Carroll 329 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: can keep coaching them up. The Bronx so into deep 330 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: now to bail the seat, so you gotta stay in 331 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: at this I don't think that's wrong. Point doesn't exist. 332 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: Greg Will bailing on now, I'm bailing army. That's the point. 333 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: That's the Yeah, there's no reason too but I was 334 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: rooting hard against him last week. They just happened to win. 335 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Remember the Broncos or the other team that wanted to 336 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: bring in Russell Wilson to be Peyton Manning's back up. 337 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't too much. Too much has passed, Too many 338 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: things have happened. There were so many like the Eagles 339 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: wanted Russell Wilson. Everyone that after the fact that they 340 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: wanted Russell Wilson. And you know what, I hope that 341 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Packers game helped helped remind Pete Carroll and it was 342 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: a little more pass heavy of a game that let 343 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson do his things. Sometimes they've been a little 344 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: too run heavy. I know that. I know they're running 345 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: for a hundred and fifty yards a game and everything. 346 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: But when you let him try to make a comeback, 347 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: he can make it. So maybe let him throw a 348 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: little earlier. Remember when the Jaguars drafted a punter over Russell. Well, yes, 349 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: it's that punter networking at right. Aiight up the street, 350 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: moving on, so many great games to talk. Oh ark, Oh, 351 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: you're so happy because the Browns they're back from there 352 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: by only one loss out of the wild Cars. They 353 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: just need to win only what no one's been saying 354 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: that this week, only one loss out of the world car. 355 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about them total defense, in total offense. 356 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Cleveland has slay a few ghosts. They won 357 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: go win a football game, Mark, win a football game. 358 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: How about one on the road. They've lost twenty five 359 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: in a row on the road. And if they lose 360 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati on Sunday, Wait what Yes, they have lost 361 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: twenty five games on the road. And if that happens again, 362 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: they tie the Detroit Lions from two thousand seven to 363 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: two for the most road losses consecutively. Ever. We need 364 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: to be running out of these like streak negative streak 365 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: type things for the Browns. But that's the thing they've 366 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: They've they've acts like three or four other of those things. 367 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. How are left this? This is 368 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: the this is sort of the big one. Well, I 369 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: mean there's also be good. Yeah, they'll make the playoffs. 370 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: I think there's a whole like I don't know how 371 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: many straight seasons they haven't gotten to six wins yet 372 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: or seven. This is the is like the low foundation 373 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: stuff and then we get higher up. But I but 374 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I watched that Bengals Ravens game, and part of the 375 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: reason the Ravens were able to do what they did 376 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: is that the Bengals run defense is just ghastly right 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: now and it has been for so long. And I 378 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: like the matchup of Nick Chubb and what the I 379 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: think Freddie Kitchens did a lot in the last couple 380 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: of games to help protect that is not simply not 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: funny that that was also not funny. Just start delivering 382 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: hits if you're going to come up with your This 383 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: is Kitchens is very happy Thanksgiving, Yes, The only quarterback 384 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: in the last five weeks to be hit less times 385 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: than Baker Mayfield is Andrew Luck. That offensive line is 386 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: starting to protect Baker may Something smells good in that kitchen. 387 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: Keep going, you're hitting like a most like singles. Oo, 388 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: some renovations underway in the kitchen. You know what? When 389 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I hear the Trabinsky is not going to start for 390 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the Bears, I had to ask myself, who do I 391 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: believe in more Trabinsky sitting on the bench and Chase Dannard, 392 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: or do I believe in Baker Mayfield? So nervous? Did 393 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: you watch this last game? Lock it up? Crowns. It's 394 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: a total apocalyptic scenario. If they lose, their season is 395 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: essentially over, and I lose a lock, and this is 396 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: the fourth time I've locked them up, lose sanity, and 397 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: that will haunt us all on side. All I'm rooting 398 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: for perfectly well, I guess I'm rooting for a few things, 399 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: but I want Mark to be happy with his locks 400 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: to that we're all happier. And this scenario, I can 401 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: just smell a Chase Daniel victory on Thursday. I have 402 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: no problem my lock. I'm sticking with Chasey was my 403 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: making the leap two thousand and fourteen. Finally gonna happen Thanksgiving. Uh, 404 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be thinking, oh, I shouldn't I 405 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: should have just taken them. I mean, if it's such 406 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: an it'll be such a terrible move, you feel free 407 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: to you know, little lock offf scenario if anyone's feeling 408 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: this great about the bell like that, worried if the 409 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Browns don't take care of business here, what happens? Actually, 410 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: if I lose this lock though, I move into a 411 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: new world of accepting I'm probably not going to win 412 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: this contest. So it's kind of left. But then the 413 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Browns lost too, which takes them out of the playoffs. 414 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm not, No, I'm not. I don't see the man 415 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the playoff team, and I'm not sort of hanging every 416 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: week on with I believe in Freddie Kitchens. He got 417 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Breshad Perriman to to be productive. He's got Nick Chobb 418 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: looking like a great top ten back. They have things 419 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: that you can be excited about. Their rosters better than 420 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals right now. The Bengals are basically a mess. 421 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're seeing the Daltons, remember he was up 422 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: there earlier. Guess where he was this week in QB 423 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: index nice at seventeen, right back in the middle and 424 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: like the biggest play last week was like a long 425 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton scramble, Like they're a highlight free offense. But 426 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: a J. Green will be back at something. J Green change. 427 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not a small You ever ever had a moment 428 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: in your life where it's a big job interview, or 429 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: maybe it's outside the waiting room and your wife's in 430 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: labor and you have that that feeling in the pit 431 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: of your stomach. That's me about that game totally. I mean, 432 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: don't you know. Let's maybe maybe I won't be in 433 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: an awful mood if they if they lose and I 434 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: lose the luck, maybe it just sets me free from 435 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: this tangled drama that I don't need to be a 436 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: part of to begin with. Let's move on the New 437 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: England Patriots uh and the Jets both coming off there 438 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: buys the whole a f C East was off last week. 439 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Uh so the Pats come back. Um, they lost in 440 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: their Week ten game, which after six game losing streak, 441 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: but of course that also uh. The loss of the 442 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: Titans had some people talking people like Chris Westling who 443 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: are wondering if Tom Brady at long last is in decline, 444 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: and and even west I'll set you up with that, 445 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: but also with this idea that, after all we saw 446 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Monday Night, what we're seeing in New Orleans this year, 447 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: that it's starting to feel like the Patriots are a 448 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: bit of an old guard and a new generation's taking over. 449 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: How about that too? How about that? Well? I do 450 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: think there's some truth to that, because the Patriots are 451 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: growing older. And it's not just Tom Brady. It's that 452 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon's a step slower than he was in Cleveland. 453 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: It's that Rob Gronkowski is a step slower and has 454 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: been out maybe two Um. It's that you had a 455 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver playing running back for a few games. The defense, 456 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of hit or miss um. Yeah, I do 457 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: think there's something to be said about that the Patriots 458 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: don't have the firepower to keep up with a team 459 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs and or the Steelers. I think this year. 460 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: The one thing I would say to that, though, is 461 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: when I think of the Chiefs and the Rams being 462 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: ahead of the league, I think a lot of people 463 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: think schematically and in that way. I think the Patriots 464 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: have been ahead of the league for much of the 465 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: last decade, kind of breaking new ground, doing a lot 466 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: of the things that the Chiefs and Rams have done offensively, 467 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: and I think they still have that. I mean, that's 468 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: the reason why their offense is ranked so high in 469 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: points scored. It's not the most talented offense, and I 470 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: think scheme and and concept and everything like that. Wise, 471 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: they're doing well with what they have. But I think 472 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: to West's point, they're not as talented as those teams. 473 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: When I watched Brady last night, I watched his last 474 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: five games, and so much of their offensive smoking mirrors, 475 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: trick plays. So many of those points scored are blocked, 476 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: punt returns, kickoff returns, defensive returns. It's not all offense. 477 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: And I just wonder about the staying power um Brady's 478 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: passes between the numbers are fine. Outside the numbers, there's 479 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: a tendency for his ballton nose dive at the receiver. 480 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: There are more passes because of that, And I don't 481 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: think that he's like I'm not saying he's a liability. 482 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the ratio of throws that he used 483 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: to make has decreased, and I think they're a team 484 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: that is so based on timing and continuity and being 485 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: on the same page with Brady, and they have not 486 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: had that this year with their receiver and running back 487 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: and tight end and all their skill posions. They haven't 488 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: had any continuity. They haven't had the same group together 489 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: their ninth right now in offensive efficiency, which sounds about 490 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: right to me, like they're a good offense, but they've 491 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: been very used to be in one or two or three. 492 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: As a Patriots fan, I do think there is a 493 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: hope here, not only that the schedules a little soft 494 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch, but that Gronk is returning for this game, 495 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: that Sony Michelle is back, that Josh Gordon, you know, 496 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: has the bio week Juliet like that you at least think, okay, 497 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: the best that they're gonna be able to put together 498 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: this year, Maybe they can put that forward over the 499 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: next five weeks. On the jet side, like you, Sam 500 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: Donald watched practice on Monday. He's now in a helmet. 501 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: He was warming up today and taking part in you know, 502 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: on a limited basis. He's not involved in the individual drills, 503 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: And it doesn't sound like he's the only thing is 504 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: and that's fine. I would love if he is healthy, 505 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: because he's saying he feels great. Who knows what that 506 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: even means. Like you want to see Donald go against 507 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots, you just do. I just don't want him 508 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: to be out for weeks and weeks and missed this 509 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: and have Josh McCown in there. I think that's what 510 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: every Jets fan was excited about to see this, the 511 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: new guard go against Brady and see where he's at. 512 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: But a week seventeen and you got week seventeen. Maybe 513 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: that's when it happens. Although who knows if the Pats 514 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: will have anything to play for that week. I think 515 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: they will. We'll see, and I do think I do so. 516 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: I think the count plays, but it would be fun 517 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: to see Donald play, as bad as things have gone. 518 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: And if I look at the Patriots schedule, even though 519 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe in them this year, I think 520 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: this is the year that they get whacked in the 521 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: a f C playoffs. At some point. I still see 522 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve wins, so I think they're gonna be there. 523 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way they're falling off a 524 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: cliff or anything. And they still might even get to 525 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: buy because what they do and what they've done for years, 526 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: even when it's looked a little grim in November about 527 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: will they get that by they take care of their 528 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: business and then other teams seemed to fall back to 529 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: the pack. We'll see if that happens again. I mean 530 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: before that type. I think there is a chance we 531 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: see a better pay and it's it's perfectly possible. I'm 532 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: just hopeful because I'm an optimistic fan, and that's not 533 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: going to happen. But throughout their history they do close strong, 534 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: and I think it's very possible that we see a 535 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: better team than we have seen, and more like the 536 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: one that honestly everyone was pretty high on when they 537 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, Bears, Bills and Packers in a row. 538 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: And there were some fluky things in some of those games, 539 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: but for the most part it was going in and good. 540 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Remember when far from two thousand nine to two thousand 541 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: and ten he just simply fell off a cliff into 542 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: total darkness, Like two thousand ten was so unbelievably hard 543 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: to watch, But with Brady it is does seem like 544 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: a truly gradual decline. Maybe you get a game where 545 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: he's thirteen or fifteen and two after double digit losses 546 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: in his career. I mean maybe, I mean, they might 547 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: be not the week where we're gonna get bad page. 548 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: We might be the third best a f C team, 549 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: third or fourth, But it's like a lot of times 550 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: the third or fourth best team ends up finding a 551 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: way to get it done. And I would never count 552 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: out Bill Belichick from coming with some playoff game plans. 553 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Maybe the bye week freshens him up. I mean, there's 554 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: a there's a long running theory in football that older 555 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: players declined throughout a season because of the hits and 556 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: because you do get older throughout the season. Is playing 557 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: this week, he is expected to play according to ESPN, 558 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: but it's it's Wednesday as we're taping, and so that 559 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: we don't have a ton of in anybody read that 560 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: hit piece from miniche metabout that was laughable. I did not. 561 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: That was like the New York media is on my 562 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: radar in a way that they have not been on 563 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: in a long time. I honestly think it it's so 564 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: transparent and like W W E style that you you 565 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: it almost is done with a wink of the reference Yeah, 566 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: they had. They had Brady and Belichick holding up a 567 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: dead Gronk of Weekend at Gronky's. I mean, I mean, 568 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: they've just been wishing for it for years, and Erica's 569 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: melting over there. You need to get as a Patriots fan, 570 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: you get a get a stronger break feel, just like 571 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: making Yeah, we're gonna see Erica crying in January. As 572 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: you were never alive when the Patriots were a white 573 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: hot disaster. So the second half of your life is 574 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: going to be very difficulties. You go through decades and 575 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: eventually you have to accept it, But now this is 576 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: not the year to accept anything. They are seven and 577 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: three and right in the middle of you can accept 578 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: it around that's what you want to do as a 579 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: as a as a sports fans, have your team in 580 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: a playoff race that's no guarantee. Feel it feels like 581 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: it feels very false. Yeah, speaking of Erica crying, the 582 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: Eagles won the Super Bowl back in February. Uh sorry, um, 583 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: but things have gone south in two thousand and eighteen. 584 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: They are riding a two game losing streaks. So they're 585 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: four and six, third place in the NFC East, and 586 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: they may not have to win out, but they got 587 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: to start winning with regularity, including a three game division 588 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: swing right now, starting with the Giants hosting the Giants 589 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: hosting the Redskins, and then at else. They might have 590 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: to win all those games, but you gotta start here 591 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: with the last place Giants and Greg. The Giants, if 592 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: nothing else, are playing better football. They want two straight. 593 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: And the way the Eagles are playing, I don't think 594 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: you could look past any opponent, No you can't. And 595 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: I think the Giants have kind of come up to 596 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: their level. I don't think they were quite as bad 597 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: as a a one win team, and I think the 598 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Eagles have have come down to to their level. Malcolm 599 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Jenkins kind of calling them out the rest of his 600 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: teammates out this week for some of the attitude that 601 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: he thought he saw on the field. But it's like 602 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: they've been saying this every week. There's been a new 603 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: like now we're running out of time every week, you know, 604 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: between between Doug Peterson and the players and it and 605 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: it never really changes. And I thought it was interesting. Uh. 606 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: In that Peter King piece with which Chris Wesley recommended 607 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Highling was very good. He was embedded with the Saints 608 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: last week, and one of the Eagles takeaways I had 609 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: from that is the Saints defense really just wanted to 610 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: put that game on Carson Wentz. That they did not 611 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: believe he could make the throws necessary, and he did 612 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: have a tough game, and I just found I found 613 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: that that thought and approach interesting. I don't think he's 614 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: getting as nearly as much help from his coaches and 615 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: his skill position teammates, but that I thought that was interesting. 616 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: All of his five deep shots down field fell to 617 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: the turf last year. That was the complete opposite. They 618 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: were so explosive and they could kill you with the run. 619 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I watching the Giants Bucks game, I thought I was 620 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna be bored out of my mind, and it was 621 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: the opposite. I thought it was one of the best 622 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: sequon barkley performance as yet. There was a play where 623 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: he had so much rum to run, but I think 624 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: he I think he liked the way he runs is 625 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: unlike anyone else I've ever seen, where there he had 626 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: a little scamper out into space and then just did 627 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: a little leap through the air to stay in bounds. 628 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: But he also ran better. I thought for short yardage, 629 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: had a really tough touchdown like run that was about 630 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: five or six yards. And this this is not an 631 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: easy game for the Eagles. Their secondary is so banged 632 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: up right now that it's good. It's it's arrow up 633 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: for Odell Beckham, it's arrow up for Sequon Barkley. In 634 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: this game, I agree with all of your analysis on 635 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley and Um. Because the Giants are now 636 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: a playoff contender and ELI back Um. The Eagles are 637 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to lock it up. The Eagle's gonna have 638 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: a hard time winning, but I'm gonna lock him up 639 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: against this powerhouse. If the New York media has told us. 640 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: The New York media has told us that this team 641 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: is real. They beat Nick Mullen's forty Niners, they beat 642 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the worst defense in the NFL, and they are ready 643 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: to rule watch Al Philadelphia. These Giants are a monster. 644 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: ELI should probably be signed up for four more years. Lock. 645 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: They are starting to build that case. Who wants that? 646 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: The New York media, they are an absolute laughable, reactionary 647 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: mess trying to get the New York City fired up. 648 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: They are clowns in the media. There is a little river, 649 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: There is a little bit of like George Bush and 650 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Condi Rice. You know, right or right before the Iraq War, 651 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: they're like talking about you know, they're starting to build 652 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: the case he slowly. Yeah, I'm saying like, oh, there's 653 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: some weapons of mass destruction here, like you know, maybe 654 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: they were behind nine eleven. They're they're just like slowly 655 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: building up this false case which is gonna end up 656 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: with Eli Man Dick Cheney off the hook there ye counterpoint. 657 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: I do like this the pivot by Eli Hayters, like 658 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: Wes and Greg and others. Oh, we don't get to 659 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: kick dirt on his grave because he's playing better now 660 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: he's not. Let's now turn to a hard mock that 661 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: the Giants will now definitely resign he like because he's 662 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: so good, and that way when he comes back down 663 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: to earth again, you can then celebrate. It's all very 664 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: very very predicted. Oh, we're the ones who are laughable here. 665 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Not the New York media are reactionary as the New 666 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: York media with We've been saying the same thing for 667 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: three years. And just because they just because he beat 668 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: in a play action heavy game plan the worst defense 669 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: in the league doesn't mean that he's back. It's hard 670 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to it's hard to have a team that's not watchable 671 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: when you have se Quon Barkley and Odell not defending. 672 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't think here's I'm just saying, by the way, 673 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: back in like week four, West you were you were 674 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: allowing the Giants offense and saying they're about to take off. 675 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: So if I think that's got treaded when I wasn't 676 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: here for picking the Panthers against the Giants in a lock, 677 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm not the only people you know. All I'm saying 678 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: is is that Eli is not gonna resign with the 679 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Giants there. He's just having everyone's jumping on this idea that, oh, 680 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: now that John's gonna get sucked and this is just 681 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: the temporary thing. That's it. I don't know, and that 682 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: nobody's getting sucked in. I don't. I think the New 683 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: York media they're they're getting sucked. This is what they're 684 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: getting sucked in by, because I know this media very well. 685 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Three and seven, two game winning streak in a bad division, 686 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: and they're saying, well, what could happen? And by the way, 687 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: not for nothing, the Giants have had their share of 688 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: fairy tales in the past, so they're doing what they 689 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: have to do to juice things up, to make things 690 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: more interesting. And what's otherwise a lost year in New 691 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: York football. It's just what they do. I don't understand 692 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: why you would hate the the gossip rag for being gossipy. 693 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: What happened to journalism? The New York Post of the 694 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: New York Daily News never said they were journalists the newspaper. No, 695 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: they hold on the New York bad Boys do not 696 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: have to. But the writers, the writers are different than 697 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: the beat writers are different than the columnists, who are 698 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: different than the headline makers. But that's the case. But 699 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: you can't just roll out the baby with the bathwater. 700 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: You have to understand who's writing what. It's not the 701 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: entire here's the thing. I'm I'm with West, that shocker 702 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: that they're gonna win this game. But I checked, I 703 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: checked the weather report, uh for Sunday, and um, it's 704 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: not like gonna be a hard rain, but it's gonna 705 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: be like a little bit of sprinkling. It's gonna be 706 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of drizzling. And sometimes you know, you 707 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be out emotional in these things. And 708 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: even though I'm not like a huge Giants guy, Uh, 709 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: sometimes you have rules in life, and the Eagles are 710 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: favored by an incredible amount in this game. For a 711 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: bad team come by a touchdown, they're favored by a 712 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: touchdown and there and I kind of have rules. It's 713 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: like if bad teams should never be favored by a touchdown. 714 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Giants. What Giants offense 715 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: isn't even the worst unit on their team. What if 716 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: their defense is even worse defense and they have one 717 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: of the worst pass rushes that can barely hold off 718 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: the buck, you know, well, they can't stop the run either. 719 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: Sunday is gonna be wild now because Mark is locked 720 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: up the Browns and West is locked up against the Giants. 721 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: What if the Giants win and the Browns lose, It's 722 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna be atomic in this room. So they're hoping for 723 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: because you know, it's like a little drizzle the drizzle maker. Hey, 724 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: the Giants couldn't The Giants could easily win against a 725 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: bad Eagles team. They have beaten bad teams. Let's move on. 726 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: You just locked up the Eagles, though, right they could win. 727 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is a gimme. I mean, the 728 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: Giants are a playoff contender. I learned that, alright, the 729 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: forty Niners are not a playoff contender. There two and 730 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: eight uh. Coming off a loss of the Giants, uh 731 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: and then a bye, they travel to Tampa to face 732 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: the Bucks, who steak. Who's their play caller this week 733 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: is that the mascot. It doesn't matter because the Bucks 734 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: are are irrelevant and their quarterback this week is Jamis 735 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: Instant Ryan Fitzpatrick. Back to the bench mark, what is 736 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: there to watch for in this game? You want me 737 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: to come up with an answer to that, George Kittle? 738 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll say this. Kyle Shanahan has shown that he can. 739 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of coaches can do this, that 740 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: can make the most of a backup quarterback and a 741 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: third string quarterback on the other side of the ball. 742 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I feel like Dirk Cutter is authoring a new, updated, uh, 743 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, guide on how to get fired because you 744 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: can't make either of your quarterbacks work. It's constant drives 745 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: that are blowing up in the red zone. I mean, 746 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: they go for it from fourth to one. Last week, 747 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick cannot sneak in for the first down. They have 748 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston fumbling the ball a yard outside of the 749 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: end zone, which they're lucky resulted in a touchdown. They 750 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: had to pick six. I mean they're eight. They can 751 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: do a lot in between in between the red zones, 752 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: and they can't do anything inside of it. I don't 753 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: trust this team at all, and I think the forty 754 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: Niners are gonna take him down. Kiddle is leading the 755 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: NFL and in yards after the catch, and not just 756 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: tight ends but tight ends and wide receivers, which is 757 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: a pretty incredible thing for any He's been great tight 758 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: end to do statistically like he is, he is maybe 759 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: the best tight end in the league. Is he better 760 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: than O? J. Howard across the side of the ball. 761 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. They just got moved to I R 762 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately foot an ankle injuries, so he's out of the mix. 763 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know. Doesn't it feel like it's 764 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: possible also that with the season already lost, that Winston 765 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: might put up some big statistical games to make the 766 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: Bucks think twice as they head into the off season. Yes, 767 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: but it always comes a lot of two or three turnovers. 768 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: Like I I the production is nice. I'd like to 769 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: see him not be a liability every single time. He's 770 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: in there. He's always gonna have mistakes, but I could 771 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: see maybe the Bucks finishing clothes to make finishing stronger 772 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: to make the ball hasn't been a problem that. I 773 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: think the Bucks are first in the league, and completions 774 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: over fifteen yards them in the Rams are the top 775 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: two teams by a decent amount. That's a lot of 776 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: that Fitzpatrick, but a lot of it's Winston two is 777 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: averaging eight and a half yards p attempt. It's just 778 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: the turnovers are at killer, and I do think he 779 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: could be the Bucks quarterback next year. There's no way 780 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: Deck Cotter is making that decision. It's Jason Lights probably 781 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: not making that decision. So it's hard to say that 782 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: whoever they hire to run their football operations is definitely 783 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna rule out bringing back Winston on a one year contract. 784 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: When he looks at all the option, it's gonna be awesome. 785 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: One Beason another coach telling us how it's gonna be. 786 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Gruden and Derek Carr Part two. All offs. 787 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you're we'll have the off season 788 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: to talk about it. But if I'm the Bucks, it's 789 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 1: like in you're drafting a quarterback, Like, why not draft 790 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback and keep Winston for one more year? I 791 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: don't know, Like, what's the harm in that? And here's 792 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: my favorite stat of the season so far. There are 793 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in the NFL with eleven or more interceptions. 794 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: Two of them play for the Buccaneers. Oh my god, right, 795 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: and only Sam Donald and Josh Rosen have worse passer 796 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: ratings since Week three than those two Bucks quarterbacks. And 797 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: whoever is running the Bucks, they'll have to make the decision. 798 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: To your point, mark Winston for all his ability, as 799 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: they're on fifty five in or se sinceince the enter 800 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: of the league. That's tied with Blake Portals the much 801 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: belond Blake Bortles for worse than football. The guy's a 802 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: turnover machine. Can he be fixed? He won't have O. J. Howard, 803 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: who was out for the year and has been a 804 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level He has made the leap a Pro 805 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: Bowl level tight end this year. That guy is gonna 806 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: be incredible going forward next year. Let's move on the 807 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals two and eight. Uh. They narrow loss to 808 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders. They really yak that one away. Uh, and 809 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: now they travel to uh Carson California. I've never been 810 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: to Carson Mark. You went to a Chargers game. I 811 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: had a great time at that. What's car tell me 812 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: about Carson though, it's like like a with out with 813 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's not a ton of traffic. It's like a 814 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: fourteen minute it's you never been to the Ikea. I 815 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: mean that it's nice. You wouldn't even know that it 816 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: has a different name than just like part of l A. 817 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: Like it's one of those things. I've been to the 818 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: Ikea and Burbag. That's a nice establishment. Wow, that Carson won. 819 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Just the nice straight shot. You get down there, have 820 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: some of those meatballs, maybe around forty five with the kids. 821 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: There isn't like a giant sign welcoming you there. It's 822 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: sort of in just tucked into the l A landscape 823 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: for the most part. But StubHub, for all the issues, 824 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: wasn't It was an incredible game d experience, great soccer 825 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: crowd there. Anyway. The Chargers are seven and three coming 826 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: off that. A lot of big box stores, I would say, yeah, 827 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: a lot of big stores, shopping centers, strip balls. The 828 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: Broncos beat him two a game. The Chargers had no 829 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: business losing. Uh and Keenan Allen said as much. He 830 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: straight up said, the Broncos suck after this game, Well, 831 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: you know what, you got beat, so now you gotta 832 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: bounce back. But luckily the schedule God's got your back, West, 833 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: because the Cards probably aren't gonna be a road Warriors 834 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: here right. Yeah, just when Joey Bosa comes back. They 835 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: run into a Cardinals offensive line that seems to lose 836 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: a guy a week. I think they lost d J. 837 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: Humphries last week. He came out of the game. I'm 838 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: not sure of his status this week. They had lost 839 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: Justin Pew the week before um and they were already 840 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: one the worst. Andre Smith gets beat by speed rushers 841 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: this This feels like an incredibly lopsided matchup in the 842 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: in the charge of favor as far as the pass 843 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: rushing offensive line goes, I think that the Rivers is 844 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers had a lot of bad luck over the year. 845 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: This year, he's I think it's turning around on him. 846 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: Not just that he's getting help, but the schedule has 847 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: obviously helped them throughout the season. And to get the 848 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals on the schedule right after you have that tough 849 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: loss is beautiful and you want to see Joey Bosa 850 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: look look a little more like Joey Bosa. He played 851 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: about half the snaps last week, believe was supposed to 852 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: play twenty made It made a player too, but it 853 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: wasn't quite Joey Bosa. You wouldn't expect that the first 854 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: week back. But I think that's kind of That's certainly 855 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: one thing to watch in this game to see, like 856 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: if he's going to get to his full potential, because 857 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: if he does, then him and Ingram are right there 858 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: with any tandem in the lead. They're pretty banged up 859 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: on defense too. I did see positives in that game, 860 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: and it was an awful loss against the Broncos. But 861 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon ran as well as he has all year. 862 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: Mike Williams made an incredible he I really like my 863 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: Williams that they can find a way to use them 864 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more. But my one concern is just 865 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: how messy and sloppy they were. They had seven penalties 866 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: in the first quarter alone, and they just they were. 867 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: They never found a way to separate from Denver, and 868 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: that that was along with this game the schedule that 869 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: said this is how they get to Pittsburgh. As a 870 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: team with a chance for a buy and they shot 871 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 1: themselves in the foot. I don't know if it's gonna 872 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: matter in the f C, although it will against the 873 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs and it will against the Steelers, and those are 874 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: two teams they played against. But I didn't know if 875 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: last week was a little bit of laura Ville for 876 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: their old line, which has been better all year, but 877 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: got blasted by an improving Broncos defense. Great running back 878 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: matchup here, Greg, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an 879 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: option here. Uh. Since Week eight, Johnson has been David 880 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: Johnson has been a top five running back statistically. We 881 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: know what he's done in the past outside of last year. 882 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: If you're starting a team, Melvin Gordon or David Johnson, 883 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: who would be your pick? I would take David Johnson 884 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: based on his overall body of work and his exceptional 885 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: receiving ability. But if you're just saying who do you 886 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: want for the rest of the season, I'd take Melvin Gordon. 887 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: Right now. I think Melvin Gordon's right there just about 888 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: with any running back in the in the league. Because 889 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: I kind of straddled defence there. Melvin Gordon's had a 890 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: much better season than David Johnson, he's been he's been 891 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: a top three or four running back. I think he 892 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: Johnson has had like a good three weeks. Basically, Gordon 893 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: has been so good. And I have liked him in 894 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: the past, but you almost there's a little part of 895 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: me that's like, gosh, why why weren't you? Are you 896 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: gonna be this good every year? Because I think he's 897 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: playing at another level that he's never played at. And 898 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: so David Johnson's a guy who has been ultra professional 899 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: and ultra good since the basically the day he entered 900 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: the league. We continue through the late games. The Pittsburgh 901 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: Steelers seven two and one. They're riding a six game 902 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: losing streak. They shocked the Jaguars speaking at Yakking Yaggs 903 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 1: Yacht a sixteen zip lead and gave up twenty straight 904 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: points to Jackson to the Pittsburgh Steelers. So the Steelers 905 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: seven two and one, and now they traveled to Denver 906 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: to face the Broncos, who you know, even though Keenan 907 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: Allen says they suck, well, they're four and six, Greg 908 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: and they gotta win against the Chargers last week and 909 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: they have a faint, faint pulse in the a f 910 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: C playoff picture, Well, if you want to have a 911 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: real shot, you're gonna have to figure out a way 912 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: to beat the Steelers in your building. Yeah, they're technically 913 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: only one loss back. There's a lot of teams there, 914 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: and they have very few, very little margin for air. 915 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: Their defense has gotten better throughout the course of the season. 916 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: I think it's one of I don't know, I don't 917 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: even know where to put defenses anymore, Like, aren't they 918 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: one of the better defenses in the league at this point. 919 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: I would put the Broncos in the top five or six. 920 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: I can take one right now, Yeah, I really would. 921 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: I think I think they give you a lot of 922 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: problems up front since Bradley Chubb has really come on, 923 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: like that is an unstoppable duo, and they're pretty solid otherwise, 924 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: they stopped giving up big plays. I think they've been 925 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: pretty good since some statistically the middle of the road. 926 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: But you're you're more talking, I don't know what you're seeing, 927 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: and they're building. Von Miller is single handedly won two 928 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: games for them over the last month. There's nothing wrong 929 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: with von Miller. I questioned their secondary, and I've questioned 930 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: their secondary all year. That they released. UM Football Outsiders 931 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: has them fourth right now, and mostly because they have 932 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good past defense lately and Chris Harris. They 933 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: don't look like that to me on the field of 934 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: the fourth fourth best defense, I don't even know what 935 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: that even means any right, That's the thing is, I 936 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: don't know if they're there. There's probably not a lot 937 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: of difference between the fourth best and I think the 938 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: Steelers defense. They released Pacman Jones, who looked like he 939 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: was running about a four nine forty on a kickoff 940 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: return last week. The end of the road for pac Man. 941 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: It's been quite an adventure. I'm curious how the Steelers 942 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: will respond. I mean, that was a great, stirring road 943 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: win last week. It's funny because they played so bad offensively, 944 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: and yet I don't know that is that that is 945 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: such an amazing win. I mean, that was such a 946 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: classic Ben Roethlisberger game. And you were talking about it 947 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Dan, and once I got to see it, 948 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: you were right. It's just like after having a three 949 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: quarters like that then to have the finish that he had, 950 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: it's just it was just somebody, I don't know. It 951 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: might have been on Twitter came after me or us 952 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: for outcome bias in that game. And yeah, they started slow, 953 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: and so you don't want to just you know, throw 954 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: flowers at Ben for an amazing performance. But the ability 955 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: to close out a game on fire like that come bias, 956 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: that's my favorite. It's like, well, the outcomes the outcome one. 957 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean also, I think it's that game is an 958 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: example of staff not mattering at all because it's like 959 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: they were shut down. The Jaguars had a good game 960 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: plan Pittsburgh. Basically that's the game they lose every other year. 961 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,959 Speaker 1: They totally adjusted and blew them away in the fourth quarter. 962 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: And that's the road to first round buys. You have 963 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: to steal a couple of these games that you're supposed 964 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: to lose. And then it's it's like they know F 965 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: and Way game and Madden where you're you're designed to 966 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: lose the game. And if you figure out a way 967 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,959 Speaker 1: to win that game, Ben, what happens when you figure 968 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: out those things? Go to the Super Bowl? Maybe Erica, 969 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: It's like like when you were crying after the Super Bowl, 970 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: that was just outcome bias. You should have looked at 971 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: the overall picture that they had a lot of yards 972 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: played pretty wouldn't even look at me? Is the still 973 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: the funniest part about that night? About it now, but 974 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: all of you were literally was earnest. It was earnest tears. 975 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: It was a woman that was shattered, and we were 976 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: just getting to know you at that stage. You know, 977 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: we didn't know you that well. If you were doing 978 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: the same thing, uh, you know, now, if it happened now, 979 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe our reaction would have been different. 980 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: But it was a very kind of almost the startling 981 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: to see you curled up in a ball in the 982 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: middle of the concourse of the Super Bowl stadium sobbing. 983 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: We also had four more hours, you had like four 984 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: more hours, and so it's like, let's not jump in 985 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: with a bunch of like insults right out of the ground. 986 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: Another word would be unprofessional. That would be one. That 987 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: would be one. I mean, well, you're lucky that Greg 988 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't unfurl what many of us typical insults then that, yeah, 989 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: was I thank you. I'm gonna change my Twitter profile 990 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: description to outcome biased. What what's like? What's what's everything? 991 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: Everything should be done in theory instead of the field. 992 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't get that. I know we're I know we're 993 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 1: way way off the Steelers game, but while we're talking 994 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: last year Super Bowl, I I do want to point out, 995 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: like all the little all the little uh needling you 996 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: guys sometimes do during the podcast, but about the Patriots 997 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: losing and this or that, you guys are certainly enjoying 998 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: that you're rooting for that to happen. It is nothing 999 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: compared to the fact that every week my daughter asks 1000 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: me whether the Eagles win are lost, because that's her 1001 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: favorite team. She's stuck with it. And I say, sorry, 1002 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, Elis, it's been a tough season. You know 1003 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: they lost another one. And then immediately she responded, well, 1004 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: they did beat the Patriots in the super Bowl, and 1005 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: that that's a weekly occurrence that hits me so much 1006 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: harder than all the little needling you guys do during 1007 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: the week. It's just maybe some parental d programming is 1008 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: in order. What if what have I told you that? 1009 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: Let I worked with Emma to get that program in. 1010 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt it, alright, Moving on the late games, 1011 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins five and five, the Colts, I've in five 1012 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler uh two teams battling for a playoff spot. 1013 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: Big game Andrew Luck playing absolutely out of his mind. 1014 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: I've never seen Chris Wessling this excited about a player 1015 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: in a season since we're doing this podcast, I mean, 1016 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: are we really to believe that the Miami Dolphins, with 1017 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill back on the field, are gonna be the 1018 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: team to cool down the Cults right now? No? And 1019 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: I would I would assassinate anyone that tried to lock 1020 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: up the Cults in this situation because they're so far 1021 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: and away the more intriguing team assassinated. You could not 1022 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: Would anyone disagree that you simply could not lock that 1023 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: game up with the way these two teams are going, Well, 1024 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 1: you gotta look in the mirror, that's all. I It's 1025 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: just that we finally are watching Andrew Luck protected. And 1026 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: there was this nugget in our little statistical packet that 1027 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: back in team when he had his full year with them, 1028 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 1: forty one point eight pressure rate highest in the NFL, 1029 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: constantly besieged, constantly on the run since Week six, eleven 1030 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: percent zero sacks lois in the NFL. And what are 1031 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: we getting. We're getting an offense that under Frank Reich, 1032 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: reminds you of last year's Eagles, not anything else from 1033 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: anyone else, that it's a team that can do so 1034 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: any things. The running games come up to life, and 1035 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: their defense is good too. I can't find one thing 1036 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins, and tell me if there is 1037 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: a scenario in years where the starting quarterback comes back 1038 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: into the fold and there's less excitement and less reason 1039 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: for it to make any difference for my at all, 1040 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: I disagree. I think it does with Tannehill. Yes I don't. 1041 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't name the name the memorable wind 1042 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: that from Bryan Tannehill. I don't believe in Tannehill overall, 1043 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: and I have no idea what you'll get out of 1044 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: him coming off a five weeks shoulder injury. But I 1045 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: do think brock Oswiler was getting to the point where 1046 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: he wasn't really allowing you to play offense or try 1047 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: to win games, and so I think Tannehill provides some. 1048 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: My point is that you that where if if if 1049 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: Tom Brady to come rolling in off his four game suspension, 1050 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's massive, It's it lifts the entire 1051 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: concept of the team up. The idea that Tannehill is 1052 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: coming back into the fold has zero Q rating. And 1053 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: zero emotional response. I still don't know who the Dolphins are, 1054 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: what they represent, their five, what their direction is, if 1055 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: they're going forward or backwards. There to me a complete mystery. 1056 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: Are they going to fire their coach, keep their coach, 1057 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: fire their quarterback, keep their quarterback. Are they gonna be 1058 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: the best team in the league next year? Are they're 1059 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: gonna be the worst? No? And it's a complete it's 1060 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: a complete mystery. They're not gonna be the best team 1061 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: in the I think gonna be a playoff team next year. 1062 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose four team games next year. I have 1063 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: no idea what to expect from this franchise now or 1064 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: going forward. There there a they're a below average offense, 1065 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: but not the worst offense. There below average defense, but 1066 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: not the worst defense, and they are great special teams 1067 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: and maybe a guy who can come up with some 1068 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: game plans every now and then that confuses people in 1069 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: out of date. Yeah, all I'll say is that could 1070 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: not look in the mirror and take the Colts. I 1071 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: had to pivot out of this lock. So do you 1072 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: see the Colts? Because you've been in on the Colts, 1073 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: and I think I've been with you on some level 1074 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: just enjoy watching them play. But do you see them 1075 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: as like a true Super Bowl contender West that's gonna 1076 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: keep getting better and better or more just like a fun, 1077 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: fun team that's gonna have a little ride that's fun 1078 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: to watch, you know what I mean? See them as 1079 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: this is a mark word, as a berserker in the 1080 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: a f C playoff field. Do you not want them 1081 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: in the mix if you're a different team, because they 1082 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: can beat anyone. Their offense is that good, um they're 1083 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: coaching is that good? Their defense, I believe is probably 1084 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: um taking advantage of weak opponents. I think that you 1085 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: can score on the Colts defense pretty easily and that. 1086 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: But I'd also say look at the Cults who they 1087 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: are over the last month and a half and just 1088 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: ignore what was coming before. Absolutely they are a materially 1089 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: different team. They were an injury ravage and mess. They 1090 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: had eleven starters out against I want to see what 1091 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: they do this week. I think people are getting you know, 1092 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: they had that win against the Titan. This will be 1093 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: where Miami wins. After all, we've just said no doubt 1094 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: about it. Well, here's the thing, I'm not at that 1095 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: point yet, and that's why I like, couldn't look at 1096 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror that even though this is a 1097 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: dome game in the the Cults are suddenly being treated 1098 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: like one of the better teams in the league. There 1099 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: nine point favorites in that in this game. And that's 1100 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: why I look at these two five and five teams. 1101 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: I think it ends up being close. It wouldn't shock 1102 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: me if the Dolphins win. And even though the domes on, 1103 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be raining there in Indianapolis and 1104 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: it's coming back. What are you are you doing this 1105 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: with like four to five games a week now? I mean, 1106 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: we're just gonna do it until the NFL stopped it 1107 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: in like a week. I would just keep the people 1108 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: wanting more. But you haven't made your problem. It's it's 1109 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: on your mind at all times. Clearly this it's like 1110 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: the third game. It's also poor analysis. The Dolphins are 1111 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: not good and the Coults can score thirty five on 1112 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: any team in the league. If it was if you 1113 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: don't really care about the Dolphins winning, you're simply in 1114 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: your desert. If it was five, I think they're getting 1115 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: too much credit that the Cults. If it was five 1116 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: or six, then you then you don't touch it. But 1117 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: when you go through every game scoring thirty five points, 1118 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: you just don't even pay attention. Then you're like, oh, no, 1119 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: they're not that good. I of course I think they're 1120 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: good it. But I think if you look at the 1121 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: balance of the season, it's more likely that this game. 1122 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: It's more likely that this game. Why why balanced the 1123 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: season with a September team that was different than I'm 1124 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 1: talking more about the Dolphins that I think the Dolphins 1125 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: are a middle are not road team. The Dolphins are 1126 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: all also different. Losing Albert Wilson, Jachim Grant, we don't 1127 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: even know if DeVante Parker is gonna play, Their offensive 1128 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: tackles are injured. What I mean, they're not the same team, 1129 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: I would say also saying that, not just using this, 1130 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: but saying that a game is going to be close 1131 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: or you're not I mean anything anymore. It's closer games 1132 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 1: than ever before in the NFL. I mean, well, that's 1133 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: why when when teams that are five and five area 1134 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: are favored by like a nine point that that gets 1135 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: your You're coming from a from a hobbyist, a desert 1136 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: hobbyist angle, which is completely different than and that's you 1137 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: may say, you know that that's a problem or cheap 1138 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: cheapening the brand, But what are you doing? You're you're 1139 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: you're watching on Thanksgiving and then you're sitting on your 1140 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: hands on Sunday. You're just like Nope, don't think any 1141 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: of these games are interested. Sorry, it's raining all year. 1142 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: Cycling back Greg is his third podcast, because this is 1143 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: not our podcast whatever. This is the reason going back 1144 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: to Yeah, like like, wow, what a shocking development. Someone 1145 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: introduces uh a part of the show with the weird 1146 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: sound drop that no one heard before, Like that didn't 1147 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: happen before. It's eating up real estate fun um. The 1148 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: reason why Greg asked West in that earnest manner, like 1149 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: the cultures that we haven't fun with the cultures year 1150 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: we've taken series because he knows what he knows what's censored. Happening. 1151 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: January three, six matchup Patriots hosting the Cults in the wild. 1152 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: That would be one team, Like, if I could pick 1153 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: that's what's happening, I could pick a team for the 1154 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: Patriots to lose. Two would be the Cults. Like I 1155 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: love watching standard. Are you a fan or not? I 1156 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: mean I am, but I'm just saying like I like, 1157 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: what kind of what are you? What are you see? 1158 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: The culture? Probably my second favorite team right now? I 1159 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: got Patriots. Charges, you're a literal Elliotts are your second 1160 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: favorite team? Would I would go Chargers. Then I'm just saying, 1161 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 1: I like, you like watching football games, like that's what 1162 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: what all we have to do? And so you start, 1163 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, admiring a player like Andrew Luck and it's 1164 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: been a little while since we had him in our lives. 1165 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: It's just confusing. I am confused because of everything you 1166 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: just said to this and then now you're fine with 1167 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots losing to them when you're also a Patriots 1168 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: and daughter with the comment about the Eagles and how 1169 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 1: it hurts them more than anything, and yet he's rooting 1170 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: for the Colts maybe to beat the Patriots of the playoff. 1171 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean, and then there's rainfalling, and there's all sorts 1172 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: of stuff going on in track of it all, I 1173 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: am like our presidency, I'm just trying to just like 1174 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: throw a ton of information that means nothing to confuse 1175 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: the masses. And then, I mean, the other option is 1176 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: turning off the show if it becomes too confusing for 1177 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: the listeners. So let's you know, let's move to the 1178 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: prime time game, Saturday Night Football. The Packers four or 1179 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: five and one. They got um a really difficult loss, 1180 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: disappointing loss on Thursday Night Football, but then the rest 1181 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: of the week kind of worked out in their favors. 1182 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: So instead of being kind of a long shot at 1183 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: four or five and one, they are still in the 1184 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: mix in the NFC North and in the playoff picture, 1185 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: and as luck would have it, they get the Vikings 1186 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: right now, and the Vikings um. I mean, when you 1187 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: look at what's going on with the Vikings again, it's 1188 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: been a weird year for the Vikings where they they 1189 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: have looked sometimes like a team that was dangerous like 1190 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: it was last year, and then other times very vulnerable 1191 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: and west. Right now, I hazard to state that I 1192 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: believe that the Vikings are in another love. They've lost 1193 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: two of three. They got losses to the Saints, which 1194 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: is no sin to lose to the Saints. Understand. I 1195 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: understand that I didn't like that Chicago performance on Sunday Night. 1196 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: You had to win over the lines in between. I 1197 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: feel like the Packers are maybe catching the Vikings at 1198 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: a decent time. Yeah, who knows who the Vikings are. 1199 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: But then again, you say the exact same thing about 1200 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe the Vikings are catching the Packers at the right 1201 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: time because the Packers can't get out of their own way. 1202 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: I love the Packers talent. I think they're a talented team, 1203 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: but there they're scheming, they're their situational game plan. Their 1204 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: situational game management is a mess. And can they fix 1205 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: that in one week? I don't know. I I lost 1206 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: all confidence in the Packers after last week. That was 1207 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: really yes, they yeah, that was an embarrassing loss. So 1208 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: they outplayed the Seahawks. It was different ways, and they 1209 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: they shot themselves in the foot over and over and 1210 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: over again. And that's maybe who the Packers are. And 1211 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: the counter is that that's kind of been what they've 1212 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: looked like all season, a team that and I think 1213 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: one of their players said it this week. They are 1214 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: less than the sum of their parts. Like the parts 1215 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: are great. I mean, Davante Adams looks great. David baktr 1216 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: might be the best left tack on the league. Aaron 1217 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: Rodger and Jones. Aaron Jones playing fantastic. You had you 1218 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: have some players, you know, playing well on defense, and 1219 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't add up right. Something smells wrong? 1220 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: Were you know? I was disgusted with McCarthy punching on 1221 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: fourth and two. You could kind of feel what was 1222 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,919 Speaker 1: going to happen after that. But I don't think Aaron 1223 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,439 Speaker 1: Rodgers should be absolved at all. I mean he maybe 1224 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: hasn't been the same guys as well. And that third 1225 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: and two in completion, that was stunning to see because 1226 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: this was a guy that's known for onions and to 1227 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: spike the ball like that. Um he took up. He 1228 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: had a role in that loss as well. So it 1229 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: was just a really a really um dark night for 1230 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: the Packers. Oh Greg. I don't know if Greg did 1231 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: as much, but I I kind of buried Aaron Rodgers 1232 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: on our recap last week. He he okay, so he 1233 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: he averaged over ten yards per tempt. He made some 1234 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: beautiful throws and with the game on the line. I 1235 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: have never begged a quarterback in my life to take 1236 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: a check down, and I did it more than once 1237 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: in that game, Like why are you what? What's what? 1238 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: The glory boy plays the cock shore way in which 1239 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: he wants to improvise on every play instead of taking 1240 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: the play that is there, take the first down. Maybe 1241 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: it's a guy trying to do too much. Well, I 1242 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: think he's been put in that position over and over 1243 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: and it's I last year's Packers from my radar, for 1244 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: the minute that he got hurt, they were one of 1245 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: the worst teams in football, and now they have They 1246 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: do have a lot of talented parts, and when they're 1247 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: not performing, that is coaching. And I think it's caught 1248 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: up to everyone if it hadn't already that Mike McCarthy 1249 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: is deep on the radar. But the Vikings, this isn't 1250 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: a division that we could have easily in our minds 1251 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: said three teams get into the playoffs and we'd have 1252 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: no problem with that back in September. And every year 1253 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: you get a division, you find it's just not as 1254 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: talented and ready to roll as you think. And I 1255 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: feel that way about the North. I mean the Vikings 1256 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: against the Bears were utterly dominated for big, long stretches 1257 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: of that game last week, and in the Vikings offense, 1258 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't trust them to get out of their own 1259 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: way either. Love this Week twelve game. It reminds me 1260 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the Packers Seahawks last week, just because 1261 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: I know They're not the two best teams in the league, 1262 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: but there's just a lot at stake, and these were 1263 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: two teams we were so interested in coming into the season. 1264 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: They haven't figured out what they're gonna do, but there 1265 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 1: still is time. But there's not time for both teams. 1266 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is such such a big game. And Cousins, 1267 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: even though I think he's played well overall, I think 1268 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: everything else about the Vikings offense is worse. I think 1269 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,439 Speaker 1: the play callings worse, at the offensive line is worse. 1270 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: I think the running game is certainly worse this year, 1271 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: and I think the defense is worse this year. It's 1272 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: it's not a bad defense, but it's not as good 1273 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: as it was. So Cousins is is not carried them, 1274 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: and he did not have a good game against the 1275 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Bears at all. He talked about my Vikings fan friend 1276 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: who it's been on his radar that Cousins seems to 1277 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: do something and these losses that just kills them. Then 1278 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: he did it again with that pick six. I know 1279 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: he's had a good year on balance, but is he 1280 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: good enough to really lift this team out of what's 1281 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: been a semi slumber. It's harder to build a team 1282 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: when you when your quarterback costs as much as he 1283 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: does versus had you drafted someone that gives you a 1284 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: four year window to put money elsewhere. So it's not 1285 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: really acceptable that your friends is seeing that or that 1286 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: that's what we're getting with Kirk Cousins, who's been pretty 1287 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: good I think overall, but he's not a difference making 1288 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: guy that like has taken We thought we thought without 1289 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: case Keenum and you putting Kirk Cousins obviously will be better. Well, 1290 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: the line sucks. Let's start there. You're not allowed to 1291 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: be the twelfth best quarterback in the NFL. Like if 1292 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: you are, you're criticized. And he's he's had a good 1293 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: year and the twelve best, but he's also what the 1294 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,959 Speaker 1: second highest paid quarterback. I would even put him higher. 1295 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I'd put him, Well, you're right, and now that I 1296 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: look at it, and he's right around ten, eleven, twelve 1297 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: he was. He's paid to put him over the hump. 1298 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: It's a win now situation for them, but he's not that. 1299 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: I still I haven't. I know Mark is just waiting 1300 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: to bury this team, and I don't blame him, but 1301 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: I still haven't given up on the Packers. I know, 1302 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: I think they can win this game. Then their schedule 1303 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: of light and something. You have the Cardinals, Falcons, Fairs, Jets, 1304 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: and Lions, so I'm not confident they lose. My thing is, 1305 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: if they lose this, I don't want it here. And 1306 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: we're not doing that. We're saying the opposite that it's 1307 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: everyone else's fault. At Green Bay's four six and one, 1308 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: it's their fault. If they lose this game, then I'm 1309 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: with you. But I think they can win this game. 1310 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: If I had to pick it, I would pick the Packers, 1311 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: and I still think they can. At one point I 1312 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: picked the Packers too, and Mike McCarthy for all his 1313 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: warts and this could be it for Mike McCarthy and 1314 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: the reports that it is uh that this could be 1315 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: it if they don't make the playoffs. He has also 1316 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: been the head coach for all these late season runs, 1317 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: uh through the years. He's been there forever, So it's 1318 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: not like he's gonna be the guy now that causes 1319 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: them not to be able to get hot because he's 1320 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: always been there. Maybe he's just a limited guy. Ultimately 1321 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: we'll see. I like that they're still in the mix. 1322 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, by the way, he's gonna play with the 1323 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: broken thumb. Well, he's already not catching passes, so what's 1324 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: that kind of here? He heard that there's sandwiches on 1325 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 1: the line. They have to get to take some sandwiches 1326 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: away from Dan. So it's gonna be close, now, how 1327 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: dare he all right? Last game of the week Monday 1328 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Night Football Big A f C South matchup the Tennessee 1329 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Titoons Tunes coming off that ugly blowout loss at the 1330 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: hands of the Colts, UH have another tough road match 1331 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: up here. They go to Houston to face the Texans, 1332 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: who have won seventh straight after their oh and three start. 1333 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Greg and Uh. There was assumptions made that I was 1334 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 1: gonna lock up the Texans, which I understand. I said 1335 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna ride with him, but I didn't really 1336 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,439 Speaker 1: yet you said that said stick with them the rest 1337 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: of the way. You know what, I didn't like what 1338 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I saw from them against the Redskins. And I will 1339 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: also say that if any team in the league right 1340 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: now is due for a loss, it's time for the 1341 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Texans to lose the game. And it doesn't mean the 1342 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: end of the world for the Texans. But I kind 1343 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: of see this is maybe the week with the hot 1344 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: and cold Titans. Maybe they're a little hot this week 1345 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: again on Monday Night football and they get a w 1346 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I feel good about Tennessee this week interesting because I 1347 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I I would agree with your points about 1348 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: the Texans, but there's a decent chance right now that 1349 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert starts this game. And I think that's, oh 1350 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 1: wait a second, a real problem. We just don't know. 1351 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: They said it's a stinger injury, and it we're taping 1352 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. It's a Monday night game, and so 1353 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. We're not going to know, 1354 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone's gonna know until uh later 1355 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,919 Speaker 1: in the week. That the Texans, their offense is still 1356 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 1: limited like the Marrious Time has had one target last week. Uh, 1357 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: they're definitely a better run blocking than past you know 1358 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: blocking that the passing game hasn't really taken the next step. 1359 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: If you look at their total yardage, they had three 1360 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: twenty yards last week, which is pretty low for two 1361 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. That was actually their second best game 1362 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: in terms of yardage and then last five or six. 1363 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: So the offense hasn't really improved throughout the course of 1364 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: the season. The defense has been good. Yeah, that Dolphins 1365 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: game through everyone for a loop. The analysis have been 1366 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: off on their offense since that game because people think 1367 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: that and that was a lot of busted coverages and 1368 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: Watson did a good job, but it was it was 1369 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a flukey game. They're a lot 1370 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: like the Titans. They they want to keep the score 1371 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: under twenty, which the Titans do too, and these are 1372 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of mirror images in that way. I think that 1373 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I feel like the Texans again. That Redskins game caught 1374 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Washington where when its offense was at its worst, and 1375 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 1: it was a meltdown type game for the Redskins offense, 1376 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: and it massed a little bit. A pretty unimpressive game 1377 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: by Deshaun Watson. I thought he threw two bad picks 1378 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: in that and I you know, I know Lamar Miller 1379 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: had a had a US and outing. They just don't 1380 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: have like from a running angle, they don't have someone 1381 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: that impresses me that much and when to show when 1382 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: when when Hopkins is not getting open, which is what 1383 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: happened last week. Their offense is not very dynamic. This 1384 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 1: was a huge game though in that division race, I mean, 1385 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Sexans are getting pretty close to almost locking this division up. 1386 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean we still have the Colts Texans, which is 1387 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: obviously big two, but if Colts don't lose another game, 1388 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: there's no locking. Their kicker killed him too lest week. 1389 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised no one's mentioned, you know, the 1390 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: elephant in the room here, which is what everyone's talking 1391 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Brendan Scarlet fever. That was it. That is where I 1392 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: was going. Like, Brendan Scarlett came out of nowhere last 1393 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: week to have the number one overall Pro Football Focus 1394 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Great of the week. Everyone's thinking, can he do it again? Scarlett? 1395 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Back to back? Tune in Test It Tour Monday Night. 1396 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: That's a bit of a defenside joke, but I enjoyed 1397 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: it a lot. Um Uh and Greg get excited because 1398 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I like to, you know, look forward to this time 1399 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: of the year after Thanksgiving. That's only fire up the 1400 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal calculator playoff codculing, and it's that time of 1401 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: year almost there's a lot of non scenarios. That's our calculators. 1402 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm listening. Yeah, what about I like the Rainmaker much 1403 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: better than the calculate like to calculate it that has 1404 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: like the little ticker tape thing that comes out, prints out. 1405 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I think this is that, but from you, we'll go 1406 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board on that one. Is that 1407 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: an amarchus? All right, there you go. Um, that's it 1408 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: for the week twelve preview. The next time you hear 1409 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: hear from us, we will be recapping all the games 1410 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: that we just previewed. So check out the Sunday night 1411 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Flagship show. Uh and uh. Thank you to everyone, and 1412 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: once again for you American listeners, Happy Thanksgiving and to 1413 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: everyone else you know whatever. Have a good week. I 1414 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: have a good week. I don't know what do you 1415 01:07:54,800 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: want from me? Stan Hanzas that's signing off poor a 1416 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: quiet storm, fool out riding on Sunday, the mail Man, 1417 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass until Sunday 1418 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: m hm