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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and what's episode one four of the Hemmor

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Speaker 1: Territory Podcast. I am your host of Brad rowand coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Tuesday evening here in late February,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined as I always am by Scott Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Scott's spring training is up and running, there are gays

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Speaker 1: being played, and we're back for I guess what's been

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Speaker 1: a rare kind of standard show, just you and me

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Speaker 1: talking about the news. It's like the season's going on.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey, Brad? That's right.

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Speaker 2: It has been a little while since we had maybe

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Speaker 2: one of our more traditional shows here on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: but always a pleasure to be on with you. And

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Speaker 2: I mean we're like four weeks in a day away

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Speaker 2: from opening day. Slowly but surely we're getting there. We

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Speaker 2: will be in se and Diego before we know it.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully these next four weeks all goes well for

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Speaker 2: the Braves and everybody stays healthy.

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Speaker 1: Quite honestly, that is the biggest thing by far. And

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Speaker 1: we are almost in the month of March, which means

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Speaker 1: baseball is getting close. As Scott just alluded to, we

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Speaker 1: should stay at the top of the show. If you

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Speaker 1: are new to our podcast. We are part of the

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Speaker 1: foul Territory network of podcasts. We are Hami Territory, covering

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Please subscribe, Please rate and review the podcast, comment,

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Speaker 1: tell your friends, et cetera. But we'll dive in today.

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Speaker 1: The Brave's been playing baseball for a few days now.

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Speaker 1: As far as games are concerned, we did. Our colleagues

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Speaker 1: Sean and Steven did a kind of reaction to the

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Speaker 1: opener on Saturday afternoon where the Braves lost, but hey,

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Speaker 1: results not really the most important thing this time of

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Speaker 1: the year as far as games game results. But they

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Speaker 1: had a game on Sunday. We were conset playing and

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Speaker 1: talking on Monday night, and then the Brads got righted

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Speaker 1: owt on Monday. So it turned out the actually played

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Speaker 1: two games today. It was not a double headers split

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Speaker 1: squad game. I actually told someone who covers another team

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Speaker 1: that today, like, wait, they're already playing a splitz splits

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Speaker 1: squad game on a February twenty fifth, I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: they are. The brands game has two games to talk

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Speaker 1: about today. But Scott. I fit's okay with you. Let's

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Speaker 1: open with the roster cuts now. Not a huge deal.

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Speaker 1: There will be roster cuts all the way through spring

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Speaker 1: and training. But there was a notable name that was

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Speaker 1: already sent from major league camp to minor league camp today,

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Speaker 1: and that is former first round pick recently, even Hearson Waldrip,

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Speaker 1: who I don't think we were projected to beyond the

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Speaker 1: open day roster. I don't know about you. I was

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Speaker 1: not projecting him to be on the open day roster.

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Speaker 1: But a guy who is better than majors before, at

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Speaker 1: least he's been close to the majors, has been around

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Speaker 1: big name and he's already along with Dylan Dodd, heading

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Speaker 2: Today, only thirty cuts to go, Brad, that's all. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think for Waldrip, it's really about just

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Speaker 2: improve and show why the Braves were so bullish on

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Speaker 2: him in the first round all of eighteen months ago.

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Speaker 2: And then for Dylan Dodd, I guess if he had

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Speaker 2: but it was an uphill battle. I think the Braves

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Speaker 2: in a perfect world don't have to call on Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gwinett and I guess he could make a spot start

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Speaker 2: lean on aj Smith, Shauber, Bryce elder Ian Anderson Grant Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Dodd is the tenth man in your organization, it's

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Speaker 2: probably fine. But I think we've seen enough from him

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Speaker 2: And then, of course two live bullpen arms were cut

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rober Salinis is one of the two. He's recovering

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Speaker 1: no big surprise there. As far as the game action

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Speaker 1: But it was kind of interesting. They had several regulars

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Speaker 2: But I'm guessing if you're buying tickets to spring training

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Speaker 2: later on you will see plenty of those two players.

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Speaker 1: That's my guess as well. I did a little bit

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Speaker 1: They tend to not bring a lot of regulars on

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Speaker 2: Folks are maybe a little more casual or don't follow

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Speaker 2: I think like the two home games the Braves have played.

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Speaker 2: I think Riley and Olsen played in both of them.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna see more of your typical Braves at home. Again.

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Speaker 2: If you're Matt Olsen and you're one of the best

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Speaker 2: Mini plug for just how good the setup is out

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Speaker 2: So they could stay at my house. I have a

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Speaker 2: come on by brother, you and your wife and your kids.

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Speaker 2: You guys can have the guest room and I'll make

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Toscota might with that a lot or

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Speaker 1: recent guests just might go like kind of go home

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Speaker 1: quote unquote after the Azona training. But anyway, if you

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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast on Wednesday morning, the Brids do

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Speaker 1: Scott just alluded to, the lamps a little bit better

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Speaker 1: you might see some more guys in before we dive

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Speaker 1: into kind of what happened on the field today as

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Speaker 1: well as the last couple of days, they were more

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Speaker 3: H Todd Father, remember the good old days when we

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Speaker 3: would have the cards and the binders, but then they

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Speaker 3: and it's just real clunky. They really actually weren't. The

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Speaker 3: good old days were they.

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Speaker 4: No, they were definitely not. But now there's a better way.

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Speaker 4: The Arena Club has been dominant with this. They get

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Speaker 4: to trade your card. You could sell them, but the

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Speaker 4: best part for me is getting them graded. I love

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Speaker 4: everything about that. This new age of getting cards graded.

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Speaker 4: You could display them on your online showroom, your mobile device.

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Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing in the world, whether.

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Speaker 1: more risk in a bullpen that you're thinking there is,

432
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Speaker 1: but now they don't have that they didn't load up.

433
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I feel fine about it. So

434
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Speaker 1: it's maybe maybe I'm not being consistent there, but I

435
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of a through line of

436
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Speaker 1: like I'm always gonna believe it when I see it,

437
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 1: but there is the there's enough structure where I kind

438
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Speaker 1: of buy the bullpen being not this story elite, but

439
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: like not a problem that I'm like unable to think about,

440
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

441
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Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised that they were able to add

442
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: someone like Buck Farmer on a non guaranteed deal, or

443
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: a Jake Deekman or Shrieve or any of these non

444
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: roster veterans, Because you're right, those are major league quality arms.

445
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Speaker 2: I think in a perfect world you're probably not relying

446
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: on them in a one run game. I think my

447
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 2: concern is if something happens to Iglesias would be catastrophic

448
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 2: or and he's been highly durable his whole career, so

449
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: that's I mean, you're not relying on a guy who

450
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: gets hurt every other month by any means. But if

451
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Speaker 2: something happens Joe Glacias, if something happens to Pierce Johnson,

452
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Speaker 2: who's the number two rity at least on paper going

453
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Speaker 2: into the season, if something happens to Aaron Bummer or

454
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Speaker 2: Dylan Lee, then you better really hope that on Helperdomo

455
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: is ready to step up and be your second lefty.

456
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Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be a fine group

457
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Speaker 2: as long as it stays mostly healthy. But I think

458
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Speaker 2: Sean said it best. It is a little bit of

459
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: the House of cards where if you get a crack

460
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: or two in the armor throughout the season, we could

461
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: be looking around and going, oh God, the bullpen was

462
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: heavily used the last two nights. Who is gonna pitch

463
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Speaker 2: the eighth inning tonight. I think that could be a

464
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Speaker 2: scenario we get to if if they are on the

465
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Speaker 2: wrong side of some injury lock.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't disagree at all. I think

467
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Speaker 1: that's a perfectly reasonable point. And I'm not saying it's

468
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Speaker 1: like everybody's great everybody. I'm not saying that. I just

469
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Speaker 1: think that I'm a little bit more comfortable with where

470
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Speaker 1: they are when you look around. It's more of a

471
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Speaker 1: looking around baseball and just seeing what actually what bullpens

472
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Speaker 1: actually look like, outside of maybe the Dodgers, who are

473
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Speaker 1: like absurd in every way, like every other team in

474
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: the league is like you're gonna have your seventh guy

475
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Speaker 1: or eight guy at the bullpen is not gonna be

476
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Speaker 1: a proven enity. It probably just isn't going to be

477
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Speaker 1: that way. And I think the odds of getting at

478
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Speaker 1: least one real reliever out of the quartet we'll say

479
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Speaker 1: of per Domo, Farmer, Shrieve, and Deekman is pretty good.

480
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Speaker 1: Like you get one out of those four that hits,

481
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Speaker 1: that's probably gonna happen. If I had to guess right now,

482
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Speaker 1: like you're doing some math there, but you know, or

483
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Speaker 1: even hits for a couple of months. Yeah, that's all

484
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Speaker 1: you need to specifically Nick Anderson. Nick Anderson was a

485
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Speaker 1: perfect example a couple of years ago. He was the

486
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Speaker 1: setup man for the Braves for the first half, then

487
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Speaker 1: had his shoulder problem and was never heard from again.

488
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Speaker 1: So you telling me they can get two good months

489
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Speaker 1: out of one of these guys and then maybe they

490
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Speaker 1: regress or come back down or you have to move on. Then.

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Speaker 2: I think the bullpen is very much a day by

492
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Speaker 2: day proposition, and as you said, hopefully at least one

493
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Speaker 2: of them can really establish themselves and throw fifty or

494
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Speaker 2: sixty innings this year and be supportive of that big

495
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: four that we feel like he's going to be really

496
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Speaker 2: good as long as health cooperates.

497
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Speaker 1: So beyond the bullpen, I want to pivot a little bit.

498
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Speaker 1: So like some stuff that happened a couple of days ago.

499
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Speaker 1: But we did a show on Saturday after the opener

500
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Speaker 1: which talk about Sunday's game really at all, and I

501
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Speaker 1: think the big headliner on Sunday was Ian Anderson, who

502
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Speaker 1: wasn't terrible. He wasn't he wasn't terrible, but he did

503
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Speaker 1: walk three. He sat like ninety two ish with the velocity,

504
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: which is not terrible. And you said this earlier very well.

505
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Speaker 1: Guys usually heat up as the spring goes along, so

506
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Speaker 1: it's not like a point where you're panicking. But I

507
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: didn't love the way he looked. And I think if

508
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Speaker 1: you read between the lines, even what Ian said, I

509
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Speaker 1: think even he had kind of acknowledged postgame to the

510
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: media corps, like he didn't love the way he pitched

511
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: and here to people that watched him more closely than

512
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: we did, the people people that were in the building.

513
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Speaker 1: So it's one outing and look our guy, Justin Just

514
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Speaker 1: to play that podcast, Pep Shill, listen to that show

515
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Speaker 1: that we did last week with Justin Tisicano. He pretty

516
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: much said, and think we agree with him, like he's

517
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Speaker 1: gonna have to really implode to not get a shot

518
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Speaker 1: in April. But it was not the best start for

519
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Speaker 1: an Innerson's spring training run. So what did you make

520
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Speaker 1: of that whole thing? Start Number one?

521
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am sincerely rooting for Ian Anderson, but I'm

522
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: just not super optimistic, Brad, and I really hope I'm wrong.

523
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Speaker 2: I hope we're doing a podcast in August about the

524
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: awesome comeback for Ian Anderson, who has not started a

525
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: Big League baseball game since August thirteenth, twenty twenty two.

526
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Speaker 2: That was nine hundred, nine hundred and thirty five days ago. Man,

527
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Speaker 2: that was a long time. And even when Ian was healthy,

528
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Speaker 2: before the shoulder problems and the elbow problems, he was

529
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Speaker 2: perfectly fine as a middle of the rotation starter. But

530
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Speaker 2: this was not a Spencer Strider, best pitcher on the

531
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Speaker 2: planet when he's on type of arm to begin with,

532
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Speaker 2: even if he was a World Series hero for what

533
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Speaker 2: he did for this team. So I'm going to have

534
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Speaker 2: an eye on Ian in every single start this spring.

535
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Speaker 2: Hopefully the command improves, which is something that really got

536
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Speaker 2: away from him towards the end of this twenty twenty

537
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: two before he went down with injury. Hopefully the velocity

538
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: ticks up a bit, get a little more swing and miss,

539
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: not walk as many. But again, I think I understand

540
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Speaker 2: why the Braves are giving Ian kind of a final

541
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Speaker 2: chance here to really establish himself, especially as somebody who

542
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Speaker 2: is out of big league options or minor league options rather.

543
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Speaker 2: But man, it was not the most encouraging start, But

544
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Speaker 2: we would be silly to think that one twenty pitch

545
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Speaker 2: outing and February twenty fifth is going to be indicative

546
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Speaker 2: of what could be coming for the next six months.

547
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I wanted to bring it

548
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Speaker 1: up to. Like I think, depending on what you were,

549
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: you aren't in as of like last week, you probably

550
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: still aren't. I'm a little bit skeptical already was and

551
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Speaker 1: I still am. If you were a believery in, you

552
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: probably are not scared off by one outing on February

553
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Speaker 1: twenty third, whatever day. It was so like, it's one

554
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: two inning performance in February, that's all it is. But

555
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Speaker 1: nothing was, no mind, no minds were changed in your

556
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: directions where I would be at this moment. But yeah,

557
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: a long way Togo and the other contender, of course,

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: Grant Holmes not that much to add. He pitched two

559
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Speaker 1: angs on Sunday, a lot of Homer but looked okay

560
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: to me from what I was able to see Holmes.

561
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Speaker 1: You know, I think the Holmes is a little bit

562
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Speaker 1: cleaner of a projection in some ways because he could

563
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: just go to the bullpen. It's very obvious that they

564
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: like Holmes is a proven bullpen endsity from last year,

565
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: so if they don't want him to start, he'll just

566
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Speaker 1: be in the bullpen, whereas Ian is not quite that clear,

567
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: like it's more of a you know, that's anything else

568
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: to add about that right now. We'll talk of those guys

569
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Speaker 1: again when they pitch again, but in the meantime, it's

570
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Speaker 1: kind of holding pattern for me.

571
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Speaker 2: Grand Holmes is going to throw a lot of important

572
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Speaker 2: innings for this team. It could be out of the rotation.

573
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Speaker 2: He could be in the rotation to start the year

574
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Speaker 2: and then shifting to the bullpen. It could be in

575
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Speaker 2: the bullpen early on if they're really thin, and then

576
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: moving back to the rotation, although that is a little

577
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: harder to do just with building up strength in the arm.

578
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Speaker 2: But grand Holmes a very important piece for the Braves,

579
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Speaker 2: and I think in a perfect world he's able to

580
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Speaker 2: stick in that rotation and be either a really solid

581
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Speaker 2: fourth or even fifth starter once Spencer Strider comes back.

582
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Speaker 1: I do believe in my guy, Grant Holmes to some degree,

583
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Speaker 1: but we'll see how that all goes. Maybe the last

584
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Speaker 1: thing we'll get to speaking of justin Skino. He talked

585
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Speaker 1: to Jojomenez and that was the first interview that I've

586
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Speaker 1: seen him Jimenez and extended for him, maybe I missed

587
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: one to be one hundred percent clear, but it seemed

588
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: light from what Justin wrote that the whole team knew

589
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: that Jimenez's knee was not right for like a long

590
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: time last year to some degree, like from July on.

591
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Speaker 1: It seems like from what Jimenez said and what Justin

592
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: was able to kind of on earth and by the way,

593
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: he was still really awesome down the stretch, which is

594
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: really impressive, and it had to Joe Amenez. But if

595
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: you missed it, if you were asleep during the aufeason,

596
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: which I don't blame anybody for doing, but if you're

597
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: coming back now, they went in to clean that up

598
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: and realized it was much more severe than what happened before.

599
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: And he's now His timetable is eight to twelve months

600
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: from November, so that's somewhere between late July to missing

601
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the whole season. That's that's the range of outcomes based

602
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: on just that timetable from Jimenez. It seems like he's

603
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: upbeat right now. But I thought it was notable to

604
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: me and I'll you react to this, he told Justin.

605
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: And this is only part of the quote. I definitely

606
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: courage you to read the story, But the quote from

607
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: Jimenez was quote obviously hope I pitch this year, We

608
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know yet end quote. So I've alluded to that

609
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: already and got pushedback. But like, look, it's just simple

610
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: math to me. It's like, all right, there are definitely

611
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: scenarios where you pitch this year, but there are, in

612
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, at least as many, if not more, scenarios

613
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Speaker 1: where he does not pitch this year if you just

614
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: go just off the timeline only, and the fact that, look,

615
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: setbacks happen, and if you if a guy's not ready,

616
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: and the fact that he kind of acknowledged, Look, if

617
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the guy like that, who's a professional athlete, who's competitive,

618
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: who's really ray I would love to pitch, is leaving

619
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: the door open to not pitch this year, which is

620
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: what that response tells me. He might just be gone,

621
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: which is not a shock, like they're planning for him

622
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: to not be around most of the year. But that

623
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 1: was a little bit notable to me.

624
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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, just credit to Joe Jimenez

625
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: for gutting it out and pitching down the stretch last year. Yeah,

626
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: I think Dylan Lee was quoted in that article and

627
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: said that even getting off the team bus or getting

628
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: on and off the team plane, you could just visibly

629
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: tell that Jimenez was in real pain with that knee.

630
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: So credit for him for pitching down the stretch. And

631
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, being one of the ten or twelve

632
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: best relievers in all of baseball last season was really

633
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: really impressive. And you know, to pull a Chip Carry,

634
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: it's like having an impact player without having to make

635
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: a trade. Oh yeah, I think in a perfect world, hello,

636
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Chip Carry. I think in a perfect world, the Braves

637
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: are able to add Jimenez right around July or August

638
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: and add a very legitimate weapon to that bullpen Nix.

639
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll save them from having to go out and

640
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: unload a couple of prospects at the deadline and overpay,

641
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: as you generally have to do come trade deadline time.

642
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: But the fact that Jimenez, I mean frankly, the Braves

643
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: and Jimenez might not even know.

644
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Well they don't, Yeah, they don't know. I mean that's

645
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Speaker 1: very honest. They don't know. Honestly, to me, they gave

646
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: a very eight to twelve months is a very long timetable,

647
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: not just way in life, but like very just with

648
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: like a four month gap between when you come back

649
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: when you maybe that's a that's half the season, I

650
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: mean more than that the season if you break down

651
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: that way. And you know, I've dealt this a lot

652
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: in basketball injuries, but when you give a timetable right

653
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: after surgery, you're just being rough, Like there's no way

654
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: of giving it exactly time table. It's not timmy John,

655
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: it's not an arm injury. Like it's just it's a

656
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: little bit harder to track and project what it's going

657
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: to be. But again, just just on the timetable that

658
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: the Braves gave eight months is like the All Star

659
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: break at the absolute best case scenario with no with

660
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: no setbacks, nothing, that's the All Star break, which would

661
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: be great. Look, we'll throw a party because back on

662
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: the All Star break that would be a fantastic result.

663
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Because like when that happened they announced it, I think

664
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: we all thought, hey, that's most of the season, about

665
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: the whole season. So if he comes back in two

666
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: thirds of the season, like I'll be thrilled, honestly, and

667
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: it will be to quote Chip again, will be a

668
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: great addition but there is a real world where he's

669
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: just gone, which and then you bring you know, reset

670
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: for recept for the year after that contractually. It's interesting

671
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: there's the whole side subplot of like, yeah, he's ow

672
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: real money this year and that might have cost him

673
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: something else than that they could have done, and all

674
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I want to bring it up because

675
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was notable to me that I don't

676
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: think we didn't. I always I didn't know that he

677
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: was that hurt during the season. No, I thought I

678
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: thought it was like, all right, he goes in postseason,

679
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: it's been balking a little bit at the end of

680
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the year. That's a very normal thing. You go out

681
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: a cleanup. And then they thought something. But that quote

682
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: from Dylan Lee that you referenced that I just I

683
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't just read it again. Yeah, it's exactly what he said.

684
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: Like it was like they saw him in basically an

685
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: agony down stretch of the season, and if we had

686
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: known that, man like, it would have been covered differently.

687
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, I mean, And it also sounded

688
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: like it was the meniscus in his knee, which was

689
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: a problem, which, interestingly enough, that was something that Ron

690
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: mccunya Junior talked about with the media a couple of

691
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: weeks ago that I don't know if we necessarily knew

692
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: that the first time that Ronald tore up his ACL

693
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, he also had meniscus damage and

694
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: that's why he felt, in Ronald's own words, why he

695
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: just didn't feel comfortable coming back in twenty twenty two,

696
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: he just didn't have the full strength and it just

697
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: felt off. Is kind of the summary I would think

698
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: of what Ronald said this time. Thankfully for Acuna, then

699
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: meniscus was not damaged, which should only help his recovery.

700
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: And for Jimenez, he's.

701
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Also a big dude.

702
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: I think Jimenez is like six' five and two hundred

703
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: and sixty two hundred and seventy.

704
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Pounds he is a big.

705
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: Boy so you, know, again knee injuries are, gonna no

706
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: matter what your size, is are gonna take a long

707
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: time to come back. From but that is a lot

708
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: of torque and weight being put on that knee every

709
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: time he goes out to. Pitch that's probably gonna work

710
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: against him a little bit in his recovery. Timeline but,

711
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean if In august or, hell Even. SEPTEMBER i,

712
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: mean if we can get this guy for a month

713
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: to help kind of bridge the gap to hopefully the,

714
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: playoffs that would be huge for this.

715
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Team and he has signed for twenty six as, well

716
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: so even beyond the, year the tracking and making sure

717
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: he's right for next year doesn't. MATTER i know it

718
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: doesn't impact this, season but that's a that's a guy

719
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: that you want to take care of. Him make sure

720
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent when he gets. Back to back you,

721
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: up he's listed at six three two seventy. Seven that's

722
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: a very large and that's a very large. Individual it's

723
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Speaker 1: efficient big old Boy graves website right, now so and.

724
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Then has looked at too when he comes out of

725
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: the fan it's, like, damn that's a big.

726
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Dude he's anyway would be on. That not a ton more.

727
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: News we're kind of in the middle stage that we

728
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of make fun, of but it's. True between there's

729
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: the initial wave of news and stuff when you first

730
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: arrived at, camp then spring games. Start the first few three,

731
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: games it's, like all, right baseball's. Back and then the

732
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: next four, weeks, uh you kind of hope for not

733
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: a lot of. News, honestly you don't want. News you

734
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: don't want because news usually is not great. News if

735
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: if there actually is, news maybe you get a confidence

736
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: intension like. That but quieter is, better even even though

737
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: we we do like noise for podcasting for. Content if

738
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: you are A braves, FAN i think you probably should

739
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: be rooting for quiet over the next four weeks or.

740
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: So but spring trainings are good spring.

741
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Trainings that is.

742
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Right AND i actual want to Add scott before we

743
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: get out of here on A tuesday evening Into. Wednesday

744
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: nothing to, Add.

745
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Brad i'm glad that you AND i were able to

746
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: do a. Show it's been a little while since we did.

747
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: This it's entirely my fault that we've not done more of.

748
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: Those shouts to my guys for carrying me the last few.

749
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: WEEKS i was on justin. Episode we've done some other.

750
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: Stuff but, uh and by the, WAY i can already record,

751
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: it SO i can go. Ahead and we don't tease

752
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: guests ahead of time unless we already recorded, them but

753
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: this was already. RECORDED i talked To gore of The

754
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: deck Of Battery power And Phja prospects that'll be up

755
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: later this week about Minor league. Everything gorev is a

756
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: great minor league, voice one of the guys At Battery

757
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: power covers the system very very, well and that's. Coming

758
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: SO i try to not let everybody down on the,

759
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: podcast and the three of my co hosts have been

760
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: carrying me for about three weeks, now So i'm trying

761
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: to even that up a little bit. Later let's speak

762
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: With gore but he's a star toucher up, me so

763
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: that'd be a fun one that will release in the

764
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: next couple of. Days but that one will hold a little.

765
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Bit so we want to do this. One and, yeah

766
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: more content. Coming we never stopped on the, Podcast, yeah almost.

767
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: EXCLUSIVELY i get all My Braves prospect knowledge from the

768
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: team At battery power dot com just they do such.

769
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: A good job during the.

770
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Season they do daily minor league recaps, too SO i

771
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: will happily plug their work all day. Long AND i,

772
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: Mean i'm looking forward to that. EPISODE i heard the

773
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: Cliffs notes version, earlier but very excited to hear About

774
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Drake baldwin who's been Drawing Rave, reviews And camp And

775
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: Smith shauber And waldrip And nacho and some of the

776
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: young guys in the system with we talked extensively About Kim,

777
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: kimmanedti who he likes quite a.

778
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Bit, yeah from last.

779
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Year so, YEAH i couldn't believe they Got kim And

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Speaker 2: eddy in the. DRAFT i mean that was that looked

781
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: like a steal of a pick For atlanta and somebody

782
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: who could make a real impact one.

783
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: Day so lots of good.

784
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: STUFF a sincere thank you to everybody who stuck with,

785
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: us especially.

786
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Over the winter.

787
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Months we did our very best to try to bridge

788
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: the gap as The braves made quite literally one transaction

789
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: of note all off season long With profar and then

790
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of minor league signings that we probably

791
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: talked about more than we planned, on but, hey that's

792
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: kind of the hand we were. Dealt so a big

793
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: thank you to everybody who tuned. In if you're a new,

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00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: listener welcome. Aboard if you're a returning, listener thank you as.

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00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: Always and we will continue to have a lot of

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: shows in spring training and then opening day will be

797
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: here before we know.

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00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: It, yes, absolutely and please follow the work of Mister

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