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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 2: What's up everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: May the twenty eight, and we're just trying to get

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Speaker 2: this show off the ground here. It's been crazy day

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Speaker 2: already at the Star. Not a lot happening, you know

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Speaker 2: how it is. We don't like to talk weather on

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Speaker 2: this podcast, but if the weather is the reason that

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Speaker 2: things have changed, then we certainly need to. Bad bad

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Speaker 2: storms last night in Dallas early this morning actually, and

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Speaker 2: it's really it's affected a lot of power the building.

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Speaker 2: The lights have just come on here one o'clock Central time,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that the lights have been on

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Speaker 2: for more than an hour. It's canceled a lot of

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Speaker 2: the other shows already this morning, the break and talking

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Speaker 2: we're supposed to go. Uh, stay tuned to the website

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Speaker 2: and the app for that schedule and when they things

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Speaker 2: will be changed. But a lot of stuff expected to

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Speaker 2: happen today at the Star and it didn't. So they're

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Speaker 2: in the middle of their OTAs which which they'll they'll

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Speaker 2: resume tomorrow. So crazy, crazy day. A lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: happening more than anything. Hope everyone is safe with their

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Speaker 2: homes and a lot of damage has been done in

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Speaker 2: some texts. You know, we we the text lines there

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Speaker 2: been kind of crazy. Some of the other shows canceled

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Speaker 2: may have kind of affected everybody thinking that we were

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Speaker 2: not doing shows, And honestly, we were about to cancel

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Speaker 2: this one until the lights came on. Lights came on,

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Speaker 2: So hoping we can still get through a show. As

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Speaker 2: Chris Beam just said, this could be the longest show,

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Speaker 2: because it might be the shortest show we've ever done.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see how it goes. If you're listening, though,

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Speaker 2: today might be a day to get in. I'm telling

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Speaker 2: this week. The day for the media is Thursday, So

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Speaker 2: we'll get a chance to kind of see the players

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Speaker 2: talk to the media. They have they have a media

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Speaker 2: day event that they did is a two day thing.

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Speaker 2: They do kind of our in house internal media. A

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that you see, you know, you see

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Speaker 2: on the on the Sunday night shows, how with the

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Speaker 2: player will say his name, you know, in the intros

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Speaker 2: before the as the game gets started. A lot of

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Speaker 2: we'll see if we get a chance to do that.

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Speaker 2: But that's what was what was canceled today, at least

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Speaker 2: for today's portion of media days. So that was always

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Speaker 2: lot of the players come and do some things and

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Speaker 2: couldn't help it when there's no power. There's only so

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Speaker 2: much you can do there, all right, But let's let's

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Speaker 2: can do. Text question Randy se Randy Seedal says, do

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Speaker 2: you think something could be added to the players bargeting

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Speaker 2: agreement like no single player's salary should represent more than

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of the team's salary cap. Well, that's

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Speaker 2: I think the NBA has got something there. Would they

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Speaker 2: It needs to be something like that because this is

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Speaker 2: you know, it's too bad, But I mean that's that's

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Speaker 2: again I'm not I'm never going to be an economics

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Speaker 2: It's Dylan in Northport, Florida. Dylan, what's up and how's

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Speaker 2: it going good? How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. I was thinking the other day, I don't

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Speaker 4: think I've ever given you my favorite wrestler. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not into wrestling too much, but when I was a kid,

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Speaker 4: I was kind of the Rock and Stone Cold and

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Speaker 4: all those guys. But I was thinking about who Rakishi

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Speaker 4: Man Rakishi with the stink base?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: That was that guy, right right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We need some of that around here on that defensive line.

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Speaker 4: We need some stink based guys, just some big dudes

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Speaker 4: that just think face some opponents, you know, up in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean does that stop the run? I

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Speaker 2: mean like, like the face is all good, but it's

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Speaker 2: all that. You know what. Yeah, I mean, hey, whatever

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Speaker 2: stops the run. I don't think that many offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: But you know what, if I remember the wrestler you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like a sumo wrestler guy a little

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Speaker 4: bit smaller, but it's kind of like a Stumo type pick.

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Speaker 4: He was sit on people. That's that's want people to

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Speaker 2: That's all I want, exactly. That's you know that, that's

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Speaker 2: the intriguing part of their seventh round pick, Justin Rogers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not calling him a sumo

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Speaker 2: and you know he's not it doesn't seem like he's

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Speaker 2: trying to. You're not really going to move the pocket

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Speaker 2: either way, you know that, which is fine. Don't get

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Speaker 2: pushed back. You're not expected to really make a big

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Speaker 2: you know, cause going north, but just get in the way,

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Speaker 2: take up a double team and let someone else go

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Speaker 2: and make the play.

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Speaker 4: And you know you just don't let the lineman reach

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Speaker 4: the second level.

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Speaker 2: That's all I want.

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Speaker 4: Just let the linebackers flow.

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Speaker 2: That's it exactly. I mean, you imagine, the greatest linebackers

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Speaker 2: that are either Pro Bowlers or maybe even Hall of famers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm not saying they weren't great players,

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Speaker 2: And when those guys are out, it's funny how different

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no joke. And then maybe introduced favorite Cowboys moment.

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have called me with

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Speaker 4: some of the other stuff, so maybe something new for

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Speaker 4: us to talk about. My favorite Cowboys moment was seven

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Speaker 4: the Bills game. Only game I've ever cried over before

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Speaker 4: in my life. And I don't even know why I

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Speaker 4: cried over. It wasn't even that big of a deal.

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Speaker 4: I was out of the conference, but just the emotional

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Speaker 4: roller coaster within that game really sent me on a spiral.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was an emotional season. There's probably

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Speaker 2: a lot of crying moments in that season, good ones,

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Speaker 2: bad ones. Uh, Yeah, that that's that was one of

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Speaker 2: those games. And it's it's you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that could say that was Remo's best game

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Speaker 2: so and that's why it was his best game because

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Speaker 2: he over he overcame his worst moments. And you know,

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Speaker 2: he threw like five touchdowns in that game, just two

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Speaker 2: of them went to the Bills, you know, So it

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Speaker 2: was it was I don't know if you throw that many,

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Speaker 2: but I mean it was. It was a tough, weird.

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Speaker 4: Game and turnovers. The two field goals at the end

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Speaker 4: I mean, I never see anything like that before in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it was great.

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Speaker 2: That was a little bit when it was just starting

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Speaker 2: to happen where the coach would call the time out

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Speaker 2: to freeze the kicker. It. It was just kind of

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Speaker 2: Now you see it a lot now. They they they

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Speaker 2: don't you know, they really don't snap the ball, you

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Speaker 2: know that like like that, but they you know. The

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Speaker 2: interesting about that second kick by Nick Folk that went

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Speaker 2: actually told them in the huddle right before the second

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Speaker 2: kick that I'm going to pause this time. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a little bit of a pause in

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Speaker 2: a delay. And if you notice on the left side

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Speaker 2: of the Cowboys line, they actually drew an off size penalty.

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Speaker 4: On he got back though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they threw the flag too. So if he had

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Speaker 2: missed that, they were going to move five yards forward

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if he would have any leg left,

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Speaker 2: that point, I don't know it was fifty three because

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Speaker 2: I remember too said it was one hundred and six

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Speaker 2: have to make him drilled it, and that's probably why

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Speaker 2: it made the Pro Bowl that year, just that moment

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Speaker 2: right there. I mean, he had a great season, but

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Speaker 2: everyone remembers that. Those those kicks.

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Speaker 4: I remember the I remember the off sides I ever

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Speaker 4: realized all this time, I didn't realize actually threw a

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Speaker 4: flag on that. I remember he he jumped off and

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Speaker 4: then well he got back, but then he was really

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Speaker 4: delayed in getting to the you know, across the line

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Speaker 4: at that point. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a cool little

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Speaker 4: piece of insight there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well that whole game has got weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've said it before. I mean they you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't the plan is to play him, that's the plan.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks Nick Calculator, See you later.

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Speaker 2: All right, that was Dylan. That's our only call right now.

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Speaker 2: We've got the lines are open. Uh, this will be

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Speaker 2: But I think this defense suits them better. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: linebacker safety up against a tight end, that that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: When it's third and three and the guard goes and

433
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: tries to block them, not so good. So I think

434
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: you're going to see probably more linebackers that can help

435
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 2: stop the run. Stopping the run is the key. Uh.

436
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: They may have a harder time with the tight ends.

437
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 2: That that's you know, that's the one thing I could

438
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: think of. But you have to give up something to

439
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 2: get something, and that might be what they do. All right,

440
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Speaker 2: let's go with another text question here. Actually we'll say

441
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Speaker 2: that one. We'll go to the call Josh in Chicago.

442
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Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, how you doing today?

443
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: How are you?

444
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, man, I'm down on the beach. I

445
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 6: came in to put the kids down for a nap,

446
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,959
Speaker 6: was looking to see if I could get on storyline

447
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 6: and one call today. Man, So sorry about the technical issues,

448
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 6: but I worked out for me.

449
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: It works out, that's right. So you're in the beach,

450
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: so you're not in Chicago.

451
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 6: No, I'm actually never in Chicago. I'm in the Marine Corps.

452
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 6: I'm just from Chicago.

453
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: There, that works all right?

454
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah sounds good. Yeah, enjoyed the beach today over

455
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 6: the long weekends.

456
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Speaker 2: All right, cool? What do you got? Man?

457
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 6: So I was just gonna comment real quick on the

458
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,959
Speaker 6: DAK contract that everyone seems to want to talk about.

459
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Speaker 6: And I think one of the things that's interesting is,

460
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Speaker 6: if I remember correctly when he signed this deal, I

461
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 6: kind of think back to how the franchise tag maybe

462
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 6: hurt them with this even even till today, because I

463
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 6: think he wanted a short deal and then wanted to

464
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 6: be able to renegotiate a free agency again, and that

465
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 6: year on the franchise tag kind of pushed off the

466
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 6: deal even another year, you know, where he could have

467
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 6: maybe already been renegotiated a year ago or two years ago,

468
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Speaker 6: and we might not even be having this contract talk

469
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 6: about DAK, right, now, right, and I do think, oh, sorry,

470
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 6: go ahead.

471
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Speaker 2: Well, I was just saying, you know, it would have

472
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Speaker 2: been interesting if his contract was up after last season

473
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: as he led the league in interceptions, you know, right,

474
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: So it all kind of worked. I don't know if

475
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: you could say it's all worked out, but it's just

476
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: this whole his whole career has been I wouldn't call

477
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 2: it a roller coaster because he's been better than he's been,

478
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: you know, not so good. I mean, he's had a

479
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: really good career. It's just it's just kind of there's

480
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: been higher points in the year, you know, than others

481
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: throughout his career, and so you know, it's working out well,

482
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: but it's still he's got to have a really good

483
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: season this year if he goes into you know, contract

484
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: year again.

485
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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm a Dak guy, so I'll just

486
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 6: said I think he'll have a good year this year.

487
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 6: And I think part of it is Trey Lance. I

488
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 6: hope Trey Lance plays awesome in the preseason. So I

489
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 6: think every year that Dak has been put under pressure,

490
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Speaker 6: whether that was sixteen with Romo or last year coming

491
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Speaker 6: off the interceptions, he thrives under that pressure, right, And

492
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 6: maybe having Trey Lance sitting in the back there or

493
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 6: waiting in the wings, might he's playing well. Maybe that

494
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 6: you know, propels Dak to play even better in the playoffs.

495
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Speaker 6: Hopefully we get those playoff wins next year.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because he's he's not like he's young,

497
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: like like Trey Lance is not like he's got three

498
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: years on his contract, so he's he's he might be

499
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings, but he doesn't have a contract

500
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Speaker 2: for next year. So uh, that's what makes it interesting too.

501
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: But you're right that you know, Dak has dealt with more,

502
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: you know, tragedy in his life that has nothing to

503
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: do with football, you know. And so that's what people

504
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: don't understand sometimes about athletes, coaches, celebrities, made whatever it is.

505
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: You don't even have to be on a on a

506
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: high profile person. But when you're staring adversity in the face,

507
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: or when you've been you know, at the bottom, you know,

508
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: rock bottom, how you handle, how you how you get

509
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: out of that is really what you are and defines

510
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: your character. And so he is built for moments like this.

511
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: He was built for that last year and and you

512
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: know that's why that's why you can yell at me

513
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: if you want to say, well, then why has he

514
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: not played well in the playoffs? That that's fair, that's fair.

515
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: But he's he's built for moments like this, and that's

516
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: why I think the Cowboys believe that he can get

517
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: the job done. That he will get the job done.

518
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened. He hasn't played as well. I mean,

519
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: they haven't just lost because of Dak, but they didn't

520
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: win because of Dak on some of those games either.

521
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: So let's let's you know, and that even goes back

522
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Speaker 2: to his rookie year. I mean, he brought him back

523
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: from a hole that he dug him into.

524
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Speaker 7: He dog.

525
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that s Green Bay game.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but that's again you say you're a

527
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: d guy. We all are, I mean honestly, I mean,

528
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: I everybody loves this guy. I mean of what he does,

529
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: what he says, who he is as a person, and

530
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: everyone's rooting for him. But there's been time it just

531
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Speaker 2: it hasn't worked. And when you're the quarterback, that's what

532
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: you expect.

533
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I agree with all that. I and I

534
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Speaker 6: think he will. I mean, I think this is and

535
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Speaker 6: if he doesn't, then this year, you know, then maybe

536
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 6: it is time to move on.

537
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: Right.

538
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 6: That's kind of the other side of this point. That

539
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 6: might work out really well, right if they get out

540
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 6: build the line back up, get some good receivers, get

541
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Speaker 6: a good defense, so get a new coach, do all

542
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 6: these things right and just take the band aid off

543
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 6: of this season doesn't work out, right, So yeah, I'm

544
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: really hoping he gets back to that poise that he

545
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 6: had his rookie year, especially in the playoffs, because I remember,

546
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: you know, in twenty sixteen, that poise he always had.

547
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 6: It never seemed like the big game was too big

548
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 6: for him, and lately the playoffs seemed like they're too

549
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 6: big for him. So hopefully gets some that poise back,

550
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 6: especially if they make the playoffs this year.

551
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but he needs a running game, There's no

552
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: doubt about it. Most quarterbacks do. Most quarterbacks do, and

553
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: and that's that's something that they need.

554
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 6: And a defense to stop the run would be nice.

555
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: Fair, I mean, all those things are all those things

556
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: are great.

557
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, all right, well thanks for taking my call, Nick,

558
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 6: have a great day.

559
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: I'll be listening all right. Josh in Chicago from also

560
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: from the Marines in the beach. Let's go to Rob

561
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: in Vegas.

562
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Speaker 7: Hey, Nick, Hey, Rob.

563
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Speaker 5: Everything great, I'm good, everything's good. Had a great Memorial Day.

564
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 5: I hope everybody did.

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, Yeah it was. It was

566
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: good until the storms came in and knocked out all

567
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: the power and kind of messed up week. And it's

568
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: only Tuesday.

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

570
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: I had some relatives and trying to go back to

571
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 5: New York and forget it.

572
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: The flight, Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, there's nothing.

573
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse. When you're looking at the at the

574
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: radar and you're like it looks you know, it's like

575
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: red purple, and then it's like, all right, let me

576
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: go to the next three hours and it's the same,

577
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: Like it's just nothing's changing. So yeah, when it's five

578
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: am and you're like this is going to clear up

579
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: an eleven, you're like, all right, well, how much hail

580
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: is going to hit? But sorry, I think everyone's good

581
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: for now?

582
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 7: Good?

583
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 5: Good?

584
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: What do you got?

585
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: You know, listen, Trey Lance, he should play good in

586
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: the preseason. I mean he's not a rookie, and I mean,

587
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 5: let's face it, if he's not good in the preseason,

588
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: mammals will just cut him. I mean, so I assume

589
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 5: he's going to play good. But the problem is that,

590
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 5: let's be honest, as good as Jerry Jones is as

591
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 5: a businessman, he blew this all three quarterbacks of free

592
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: agents after this year. So it's like, what are you doing?

593
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Cooper Rush, say what you want. Maybe not

594
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 5: a superstar, but I think he's five and one as

595
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: a starter for this team, pretty good. Trey Lance have

596
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: no idea. Let's be honest. He looks the part, but

597
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: we don't know. And and Dak. If Dak is great

598
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: in the regular season, top top three quarterback, maybe in

599
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 5: the regular season. The issue is the playoffs for whatever reason.

600
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 5: And if we do the answer, obviously we fix it.

601
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: We discussed fifty three million dollars is probably the going

602
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 5: rate offer it. That's what Golf got and if he

603
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: doesn't take it, then you know, I think he looks

604
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: dead because he said, you know, he doesn't play for money.

605
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 5: But I don't know what to do. But I gotta

606
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: be honest. I don't know what. What are the Cowboys

607
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: waiting for to sign Cebee Lamb and a Dak Prescott.

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what, but number is Tyreek Hill

609
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: is the highest paid at thirty one, So ceedee, Lambon's

610
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 5: right there, right there. Uh, okay, what do you want

611
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 5: to put them at number two and number three in

612
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 5: the leak?

613
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: So? Well, is he don't know what is your thirty five?

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 5: I don't think any I don't think anybody receives seeing

615
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 5: thirty five, so especially if you don't have a quarterback.

616
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: Okay, but but so you're saying he's not worth thirty five,

617
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: Well no, I.

618
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 5: I thirty one thirty thirty one.

619
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: Okay, But as I said this the other day and

620
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Rob you you know this, like these these contracts, they

621
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: they are two way streets, like they these guys are

622
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: not waiting there with a with a sharpie or a

623
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: pen to say I'm ready to sign the deal. They

624
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: they are asking for money that is is not where

625
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: the Cowboys want to pay them.

626
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: They wait a minute, do we know that is CD

627
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: asking for thirty five?

628
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: What he's asking for is not what the Cowboys are

629
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: looking to do right now. So I don't know. I

630
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that he's asking for thirty five.

631
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're asking if the Cowboys are

632
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: asking for twenty five, I we don't know that. We're

633
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: not supposed to know these negotiations. We know that they're

634
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: not done. We know the cowboys are probably trying to

635
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: wait for Jefferson, I think, and Jefferson's waiting for CD.

636
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: No I understand them, but we talked about this. Why

637
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: they wait. It always hurts them. It always you have

638
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: to be first, not last. You want to get in

639
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: now before Jefferson because if Jefferson, I don't know, it

640
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: just says goes they thirty two.

641
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: But Ron, they CD and his agent don't want to

642
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: do that. They don't want to be second. They want

643
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: to be first, first in the money, so they don't

644
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: want to go first, and then Jefferson goes over them.

645
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: They don't want that. They don't want them. That's important

646
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: to them. It's not important to all players, but this

647
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: one that does seem like that. The Jefferson CD thing

648
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: is it's like the agents are sitting there just waiting

649
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: to see who who goes first here, you know, like

650
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: the old saloon. You know, these two cowboys are just

651
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: waiting to see who draws first.

652
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: And to me, right now, your priority has to be Dak.

653
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 5: He's opened the door with making comments and you got

654
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: to you gotta sign him. I mean, at the end

655
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: of the day, if you told me I could get

656
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 5: somebody better, I'm all for it. But you cannot. And

657
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: this team is too good to just blow it up.

658
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 5: And he's the he's the top domino that has befall. First,

659
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: you get him in the building, done, you save money.

660
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: Then Cede says, well, I want to play with a

661
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: really good quarterback, because let's say that every wide receiver

662
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: that is considered great had a great quarterback take their

663
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: hand in hand. So to me, CD doesn't want to

664
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 5: go somewhere where there's some scrub playing quarterback. So I

665
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: think you got to get you have to get that done.

666
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 5: The longer you wait, the more. Of course, I think

667
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 5: this is a great window because fifty three is now

668
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: on the table, and even though fifty three is an

669
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 5: incredibly large a bottom money, it's not sixty. So I

670
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: can't see how Dak could justify, if it ever got

671
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 5: leaked that he wants sixty when fifty three is the

672
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 5: next number up. So to me, jump on it, let's go.

673
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: You know, Dak says he wants to be here, Jerry

674
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: wants them here. Get it done. Now, going into training

675
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 5: camp and then let's say some and then let I'm

676
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: sure cdu would sign, but I just don't know. But

677
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: like I said, you have no quarterback or everybody's a

678
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: free agent. That's I never heard of that. Yeah, we

679
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: have a whole quarterback staff. Well players are free agent.

680
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, orb you said it like Jerry blew it, Like

681
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: let's wait. Can we wait to see if he really

682
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: blew it before it's back? I mean like, like, well,

683
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: well you don't think it might be, but what if

684
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: it works out perfectly? Like I was, I'm not ready

685
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: to say he blew it when we don't know how

686
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: this thing's going to end up.

687
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 5: It's going to work out, Listen, it's it's going to

688
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: work out, because I can't imagine unless listen, Dak is

689
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: great in the regular season, Pennsylanman thirty touch, unless gossip

690
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: Biddy gets hurt. Great, he's he's great in the regular season.

691
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's exactly what I want my player to be. Honestly,

692
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: I want my player to be great in the regular season. Yeah,

693
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: so that's a great start. Then we'll see what happens

694
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: from there. Better than the other way around, Better than then,

695
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, better than the guy that finishes two and fifteen,

696
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: and he's like, you know what, just get me in

697
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs though I'm about to roll. I mean, it

698
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. So you know, I'm fine with this.

699
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 5: I could do it now because the longer you wait,

700
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's going to cost you more money.

701
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, waiting. You can't wait in this league

702
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with the top guys. They like you said,

703
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: it just it just goes up. Get it now, all right,

704
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 5: and you know, but hopefully everybody's good in Texas and

705
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: hopeful weather. You know, isn't you crazy. That's one thing

706
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: I don't deal with here in Vegas, and Medal would

707
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: want to deal with it, so hopefully. But it's good.

708
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: Thanks, I appreciate it, Thanks for Rob for the call.

709
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll just say this, and I've reiterated again,

710
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, there is more to it than

711
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: just getting it done. I mean, because getting it done

712
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: sometimes means you have to just give in. And they're

713
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: not in a position really to do that financially as well.

714
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: They're trying to make this work for both sides, and

715
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: everyone's got an agenda. Including you know, DAK side, CD side,

716
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: MICA's side and all that. MICA's kind of that that

717
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: seems to be I would say, a distant third right

718
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 2: now in the in the priorities. And you know what,

719
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Cowboys don't even say that. They probably

720
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: have other guys in mind too, because that's what happened

721
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: last year. We were talking about Dak last year, definitely

722
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: talking about CD, you know, and digs and then and

723
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: then Digs got done first, and then you're like, well,

724
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: then Hooker gets done. You didn't even know Zach Martin

725
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: was a thing, and then that has to done. So

726
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's still a long time before that's really

727
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: got to happen. And I understand nobody likes to go

728
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: into a season that way, but it's probably going to

729
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: be that way where a lot of these things aren't

730
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: even going to be done un till in the season,

731
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: maybe even afterwards. All right, let's go to Chris in

732
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: San Angelo.

733
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: Hey, Nick, hope you're doing well today.

734
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: Good. I'm doing great. How are you?

735
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 7: I'm doing great?

736
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Dude?

737
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 7: Hey, I was going to go back. I'm thinking back

738
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 7: when I was back in the seventies, even when I

739
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 7: was just a little kid. I watched this guy play

740
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 7: against the Cowboys. His name was Roy Green, and every

741
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 7: single time he played against the Cowboys, he burned them

742
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 7: right like there was nobody that could cover, no Pro

743
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 7: bowlers or anything. So what my question to you is,

744
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 7: in your time, who is the biggest Cowboy killer that

745
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 7: you can remember?

746
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: There's only one?

747
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 7: Okay, well, I know, I know you might say.

748
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Who Aaron Rodgers?

749
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm talking. I'm talking about somebody just just

750
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 7: like week in week out, could for some reason, couldn't

751
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 7: block him, couldn't cover him. Whatever.

752
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna let I'm not even typing anything

753
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: to Chris. If he's listening, I guarantee you Chris is

754
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: gonna say the name that I because we lived through this. Okay,

755
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: we never beat this guy, Chris, who is it?

756
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 7: Okay?

757
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean we're talking the guy that

758
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: they were going to draft and they decided not. It's

759
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Randy Moss. I mean they never beat him. He went

760
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: to the Vikings, he went to the Raiders, he went

761
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: to the forty nine, and they never beat them, and

762
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: he went back back to the Vikings. I think he's

763
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: I think it was seven to zero against him. So yeah,

764
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: that's that's the one. And that's not only he just

765
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: dominated him because he was here, he was there, you

766
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: could draft him, and he's he took Greg Elis, which

767
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: is a good, solid player, buddy.

768
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 7: And hopefully a good coach, but his jackets.

769
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Not gold, you know. And yeah, I mean, and I

770
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: love Greg Ellis, and Greg Ellis got unfairly, uh compared

771
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: to a wide receiver. His whole career was unfair for him.

772
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: But that's the only name that pops up to me.

773
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: And you're right, Aaron Rodgers has that's been a playoff

774
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: type thing, and he's he's been a guy, you know.

775
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: And it was Tom Brady when they played him. I mean,

776
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: he didn't play him all the time. He didn't play

777
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: him all the time. But but Randy Moss was the

778
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: one that just yeah, just always, yeah.

779
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter who you put on him. And he's scoring.

780
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I'm sure in the eighties when

781
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: they weren't very good, you know, you I mean, they

782
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: didn't block Lawrence Taylor all the time. You know, Lawrence

783
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: Taylor was a probably the guy that you thought of

784
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: because he could wreck the game and he did wreck

785
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: a few games, but you know Roy Green. Yeah, but

786
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: you know Roy Green played for the Cardinals.

787
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 7: Yeah St. Louis.

788
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And when the Cardinals beat the Cowboys, there

789
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: was a parade. I mean, like, that's that's just what happened.

790
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: That's that's what that's the type of franchise that they were.

791
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: So and Roy Green, if I remember, he actually started

792
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: his career, maybe even played defensive back, a little bit

793
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: of both there, but he was Yeah.

794
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 7: I just remember me and my dad always had conversations

795
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 7: whenever they played Saint Louis. He was like, well, Roy

796
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 7: Green's gonna get his but let just hope we can

797
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 7: figure out the rest. Yeah.

798
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a game on Monday night football. They

799
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 2: played the Cardinals, and I'm sure Roy Green was playing

800
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: on one side with the other receiver his name was

801
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Pat Tilley, and he caught a touchdown or he ran

802
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: to the one and spiked it at the one. That

803
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: was before instant replay. They ended up winning the game.

804
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: The Cardinals did win the game, so there was probably

805
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: a parade the next day, and and that was a

806
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: big deal, was that he spiked it. You know, there

807
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: was no replay now nowadays, they would have caught that.

808
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: I still don't understand why players spike it or dropped

809
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: the ball beforehand. I just makes no sense why they

810
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: dropped the football out of the one.

811
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: That's hold it like a loaf of bread until you're

812
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 7: about five the order to give.

813
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 2: It to the flip it to the official, or dunk

814
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: it over the one of the exactly unless you're down

815
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: by thirty, then you don't dunk it over the goalpost.

816
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Antonio Briant. But that's another story.

817
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 7: That's fine, right, But yeah, yeah, that was going back

818
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 7: a while, but that was one that came to my

819
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 7: memory and I was sure. I was surely sure that

820
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: you had one.

821
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, yes, he was awesome.

822
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 7: So all right, all right, Chris Man.

823
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: All right, we're going from San Angelo to Germany. A

824
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: little different, but we're going to Germany. Zach in Germany.

825
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 7: What's up, Thick?

826
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 8: What's going on?

827
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 7: Man?

828
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: How are you?

829
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 7: Oh? Good? Brother?

830
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 8: Sorry?

831
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 7: Man?

832
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 8: I tried to call you guys last week, but I

833
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 8: was a vacation. Didn't get through.

834
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: Well, today's the day. Today is the day you can

835
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: get it through. What's on your mind?

836
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: Good? Good?

837
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 8: I got a couple of things I was looking at

838
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 8: some of our draft again and I was running over

839
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 8: the running back selections for lack thereof.

840
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: On our end.

841
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 8: And do you think that there's ever going to be

842
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 8: a comparison how we had, you know, Greg Ellis to

843
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 8: Randy Moss. In the back of my mind, I can't

844
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 8: stop thinking about, man, we could have had Trade Benson

845
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 8: over let's say, Neeland or Jalen right over Marrison Luo.

846
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 8: Are you going to have those types of comparisons when you're.

847
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: Looking back, I you know, I don't think so, because

848
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: as you get later on in the in the draft

849
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: that happened, you kind of kick yourself a little bit more,

850
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: you know less, I'm sorry, kick yourself least because of that.

851
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: It's later on. This was the Moss thing was different

852
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: because everyone knew it was awesome. No one knew it

853
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: was special. Can you deal with what the off field

854
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: issues are? And can you deal with it here? Because

855
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: of Michael Irvan? And Michael Ivan was the first to

856
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: admit that I'm that Randy Moss isn't here because of me,

857
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: because of what's been happening here in the nineties. Could

858
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: we put Randy in this situation? But we all knew

859
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: his talent was there, and and there was fifteen teams

860
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: that had him off the board, so they didn't want

861
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: to mess with them. When you get to the second, third, fourth,

862
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: fifth round like that, like Tom Brady's, I mean, is

863
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: there people kicking themselves? Yeah, there was probably somebody that

864
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: says I want Brady and they're like, no, we're not

865
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: taking Brady, We're taking this guy. So yeah, they probably

866
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: kicked themselves. And so if it was that close with

867
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: Trey Benson, like it was a big fight in the room,

868
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: I do just don't think it was then then No,

869
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I mean, there's always players that

870
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: you that you could have taken and you're like, I

871
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: wish we would have gotten him, you know, but it

872
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: just didn't work. But as it gets later on in

873
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: the draft, you don't think about it the same as

874
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: you do when it's a first round pick and it's

875
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: like right there, either or this guy or this guy.

876
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 8: You know, I remember, I guess the only go ahead,

877
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 8: go ahead and the only counter argument that would be

878
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 8: since running back is now more of a devalued position,

879
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 8: you know, you have guys look at Preestault right to

880
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 8: Prestol falls and you have other guys that now fall

881
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 8: into the second round back in the nineties would have

882
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 8: been first round challenge. And I'm not saying tray Vinson was,

883
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 8: but he very well could be in that same category

884
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 8: where you know, in a few years Needland might be

885
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 8: a Charles Taffer, I know, a different second to fourth rounder.

886
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 8: But you get that point. Yeah, I mean that's I mean,

887
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 8: that's that's always tough.

888
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and but I think the saving grace to

889
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 2: it is is that if the guy in the second, third,

890
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: fourth round shines, he develops. You know, everybody passed on

891
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: him three times, you know, everybody, that's more about him.

892
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: It's more about him being you know, something that most

893
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: people did not think he would be. And so you know,

894
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady made every team in the league look foolishcluding

895
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: the Patriots, I mean, because they passed on him five times,

896
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: so he impressed up all of them. And so yeah,

897
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: I just if Drey Benson or whoever turns out to

898
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: be a great running back, then that's great. But obviously

899
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: the Cowboys just didn't see it. And you know, yes,

900
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: it's the value, but we're only one year removed from

901
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: two running backs getting picked in the first twelve picks.

902
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Last year it was Bejon and then Gibbs. So if

903
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: there's no doubt, if there's a level, right, there's a

904
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: special running back. If they're special, they're not overlooked that much,

905
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: so they're they're they're still there if they're if they're

906
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: deemed special.

907
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 8: I think where I was surprised by it where it's

908
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 8: more Really I guess it's a tip the tip of

909
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: the cap to zimmer right, because you have him getting

910
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 8: two defensive players in those top four picks. And I

911
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 8: think that's where I was a little surprised, especially right,

912
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 8: I knew that this running back draft class is going

913
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 8: to be a second, third, fourth round where you can

914
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 8: could get a good player, and you know, I understand

915
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 8: we had dip needs elsewhere. So last last question, and

916
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 8: I'll let you let you go. Is there a draft

917
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 8: pick that you thought, you know, maybe it was going

918
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 8: to be something and never got the shot or couldn't

919
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 8: get on the field. And I'll give two example of this.

920
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 8: That one before was Charles Tapper. Do you remember Matt Johnson.

921
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 8: I think he was a third round pick years ago,

922
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 8: couldn't stay healthy. Do you have anybody that comes to.

923
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 7: Mind on your own.

924
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean a lot. I mean a lot of guys,

925
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: because you know when you were when you were drafted,

926
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: I mean like when I first started was in two thousand,

927
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: So I mean none of those guys turned out to

928
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: be to be that good, you know. I mean, but

929
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm just looking through a little bit to say, like,

930
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: all right, which guys did I think we're going to

931
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: be like really really special? There's so many who else?

932
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: Who else did you have? See? I honestly thought I

933
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: thought that man that two thousand. I thought Karl Aermore

934
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: was going to be great everything, Okay, right, something over there?

935
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 8: Kick can?

936
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll not hope not literally not literally, yeah, hope

937
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: hopefully it literally kicked the can. No, I mean I'm

938
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: looking at these guys. I thought I thought Jalen Smith

939
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: was actually I mean I thought he would he would

940
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: overcome that injury and be and be better. I didn't.

941
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: I didn't think Taco was going to be really good.

942
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you there, Uh yeah, I didn't.

943
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 8: Actually, how about I know, if there's other guys, how

944
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 8: about Connor?

945
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: How about Connor McGovern Penn State. I thought he was

946
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: going to be guy and and you got to think

947
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: about this too, Like everyone just thinks Bbie's going to

948
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: be this great player, and he looks like he could be,

949
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: but he's a third round pick. Connor McGovern was a

950
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: third round pick. Connor Williams was a second round pick.

951
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: You know, he's got some warts on him as well,

952
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: so there's a reason why he felt like he did.

953
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: But but you know, I mean, he looks it looks

954
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: the part. But I'm just saying with these and they

955
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: don't always pan out. But yeah, that that is one

956
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: for sure that I thought would be a little bit

957
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: better than he's been so far.

958
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 8: So do you think do you think we maybe have

959
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 8: a scouting issue? And the reason I say that coaches

960
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 8: change over the years when it comes to like our

961
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 8: defensive tackle evaluation, because I mean, look at our offensive

962
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 8: tackles every time we drafted that we're up in some

963
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 8: lineman for the most part, except you know, first rounders

964
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 8: plug and play a lot of Pro bowlers. Do you

965
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 8: look at our defensive tackle evaluation, Maybe we haven't done

966
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 8: a good job there in the past several years. And

967
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 8: I know it's early for Mazi, but Taco is a

968
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 8: good example of the d lineman that we took high.

969
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 8: Who was it that we took him the second with Marinelli's.

970
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Guy Tristin Hell. Yeah, Tristan Hill, and you got Neville Gallimore.

971
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: He didn't really pan out like you would.

972
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 8: Gallen wore Osa, Chunky Goldston. It's decents. Yeah, I think

973
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 8: Osa's overperformed. But do you think maybe maybe we're just

974
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 8: not evaluating that correctly?

975
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I mean, if

976
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: you go back to say team Eliite Collins, he actually

977
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: played pretty well. I think I think more than anything though,

978
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle position seems to be, you know, predicated

979
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: on what type of scheme you're playing, and more than

980
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: more than others. You know, if you're a corner, you're safety,

981
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna play, let you you know, do

982
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: what you do. You linebacker could be one. You could

983
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: argue that as well, but I think defensive tackle, I mean,

984
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: if you're three four, you know defense, if you're a

985
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: four to three, if you're a hybrid, if you play inside,

986
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: if you play outside, if you're really a nose but

987
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: you're playing in the three or vice versa. I mean,

988
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: you can change a lot, and I think that you've

989
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: had some different defenses in here, different defensive line coaches

990
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: asking them to do different things, and so I don't

991
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: think it's been one where it's just you know, you're

992
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: drafting these guys for a different scheme. You know how

993
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: many different coordinators have we had here in the last

994
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: four or five years. I mean it's been like five, right,

995
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: for at least for four coordinators now in the last

996
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen with Marinelli. So I mean you've had

997
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: different coordinators, and I think that that might affect it

998
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right, all right, thanks for the call, Zach.

999
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Let's go one more. Let's go on. Mike in England.

1000
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: Mike you there, Hello, Nick?

1001
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 4: How are you doing good?

1002
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: How are you?

1003
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm all right, thank you.

1004
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1005
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: So I haven't been able to listen so far this evening,

1006
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: so I hope you're having a really good show. First

1007
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: time I've been able to call since the schedule came out.

1008
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: And got to say, I was really really disappointed because

1009
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: I had three shots that get into a Cowboy game.

1010
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be over in New York City

1011
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: and Washington in October, and I thought, if that doesn't

1012
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: pan out, then there's the Panthers game. I could get

1013
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: over to Germany and see them, but not to be

1014
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: when I'm over. Cowboys are on the other side of

1015
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: the country in San Francisco.

1016
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 8: There we go.

1017
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: But I'm going to get to the Jets against the Texans,

1018
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: which I'm sure will be lots of fun. It's not

1019
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: my cowboys, but one day we'll we'll tick that box.

1020
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: But Nick, I've recently been reading a book I finished

1021
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago by an up and coming author.

1022
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: It's called If These Wolves Could Talk. I don't know

1023
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: if you've heard of it.

1024
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about coming. He sounds like he's on

1025
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: his downward ways there as an author. Either way, either way,

1026
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: I'll go. Well.

1027
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoyed it, apart from chapter eight, which was

1028
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: a little bit traumatic. I wasn't quite ready for that

1029
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: reading all these wonderful football stories and then that that

1030
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: chapter sort of takes your breath away a little bit.

1031
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: But I wondered if, because that's it's ten years since

1032
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: the period that that's covered, and I just wondered, just

1033
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: a quick call today, I'll ask this and then leave

1034
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: you to I wondered if you'd got any thoughts about

1035
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 3: doing an updated version, and if you did, who from

1036
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 3: the last ten years would you get to write the

1037
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: forward this time?

1038
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, Yeah, I mean it's been if their new walls,

1039
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The walls are not at

1040
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: Valley Ranch anymore, so yeah, maybe. So you know, I

1041
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: don't not ever close any doors on when it comes

1042
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: to writing books. You know. The funny thing about that

1043
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: is I had a book deal done where if these

1044
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: walls could talk while I was writing another book. So

1045
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: I'd actually had two book deals done before I'd even

1046
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: written one word. But they were like, yeah, let's let's

1047
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: do this one, and it worked out, and it's still

1048
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: the one that most people still read the most because

1049
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: even though it's outdated, like you said, it's still got

1050
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: some old stories in there. As the forward, I don't know.

1051
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know a current player that's been around.

1052
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: I have a couple of names in mind. I certainly

1053
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: would want to throw them out there right now. I

1054
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: hadn't talked to anybody about that. I hadn't even talked

1055
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: about writing a book, so that would be the least

1056
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: of my concerns on getting the forward, because really, you

1057
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: know the forward, you're just doing an interview with the

1058
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: guy you're doing an interview, you ask him stuff and

1059
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: then you piece it together in a first person thing.

1060
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: It's really not it's actually, i'll tell you that secret.

1061
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: It's not as glamorous as it does to the guys.

1062
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: So there's not there's not a player sitting at his

1063
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: computer just thinking like like old Doogie Howser like sitting

1064
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: there like hmm oh, I'll write this like No, it

1065
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. But either way, if I if

1066
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I can come up with enough stories and there's the

1067
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: interest with the publisher, sure why not because it has

1068
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: been relatively successful, you know, because it's one that when

1069
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: when people that say you wrote a book, you know,

1070
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: and they see the books that I've written, that's the

1071
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: one that's probably the cheapest. It's also the one that's

1072
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: got a lot more information that fans care about. So yeah,

1073
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: it's an idea.

1074
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, really really enjoyed it.

1075
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Speaker 7: Nick.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, on Amazon UKs they only had second hand copies,

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Speaker 3: so I don't think you get any royalty for that.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid. I'm proudly sorry, but it was. It was

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Speaker 3: a really good read, so I would definitely thank you

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Speaker 3: welcome another one if you get the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, thank you appreciate that. All right,

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Speaker 2: thank you, all right, I have a good one. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's two o'clock on the dot and it's been a guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys pulled through. I didn't think we were gonna

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Speaker 2: We had six calls. It's five more than I thought

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Speaker 2: we'd have. So it was good stuff. We went all

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Speaker 2: over the world too, went to Germany, England, Vegas. It

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Speaker 2: was good sant Angelo, Texas, good stuff for sure. So

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Speaker 2: all right, we were done. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: Chris is saying. Chris, I don't know what you're saying. Man,

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Speaker 2: But it's two o'clock. You said two o'clock on the dot.

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Speaker 2: You got your drop top? Oh no, okay, sorry, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you're saying. I can't I can't process

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Speaker 2: as I'm trying to riff at the same time. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not a rapper. One of the reasons why I'm

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Speaker 2: not a rapper. All right, let's go, let's get out

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Speaker 2: of here. For Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. This could

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Speaker 2: be the last show the week, probably not gonna have

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Speaker 2: one o'clock on Thursday. If we can move it back,

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Speaker 2: we will. We'll let you know for sure on what

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Speaker 2: our schedule looks like Thursday, but if that's the end

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Speaker 2: of it this week, we'll definitely be back next week

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Speaker 2: for sure. Thanks to everyone, we'll see you next time

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Speaker 2: on the Cowboy storyline.

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