1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. Monday edition of The Clay 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now. And while 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: we have a busy one plan for you today, a 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to get through, a few salade of 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: news over the weekend. The biggest thing, of course, which 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna circle back to here in just a moment, 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the apparently looming arrest of Donald Trump. That's what they're 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: talking about all weekend, including former President Trump himself. We're 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: gonna get into the details of this. Will the Manhattan 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: District Attorney Alvin Bragg go through with it? What would 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: this mean legally? What would the political implications be. There's 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: already preparations on the streets of New York City for 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: what could be some rowdiness, some unrest if this were 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: to happen. Is it even going to happen. We'll talk 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: about that. Plus in the background, I do not want 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: anyone to forget about this because it is something that 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: could really affect all of you, every single one of 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: you listening to this. The banking crisis continues just to 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: edge forward toward the abyss things continuing to move in 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: directions that are certainly unnerving. Swiss banking giant UBS has 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: announced a deal to buy Credit Swiss for three billion 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: dollars in an emergency rescue. Now. I know you may say, well, fuck, 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: these are big Swiss banks, you know whatever, Swiss banks 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: far away. The banking crisis that exists is much broader 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: than what you have seen so far, meaning the possibility 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of banks having additional will failures going forward, I think 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: is actually quite high. And those that were on the 29 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: wrong side of this interest rate swing interest rate shift 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: that's occurred over many months, they're much more vulnerable, and 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: far more of the banks are vulnerable than they want 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: you to realize. That is certainly the case. I think 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: it was just a few days ago the Credit Sweet 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: CEO is saying, you know, don't worry, everything's fine, and 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: uh no it is. Everything is not fine over there. 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: We've also got Twitter files nineteen out if I have time, 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: will get to that in a little bit. The short 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: version of it is, yeah, they were Twitter was colluding 39 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: with the FEDS to suppress even more information about the 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: pandemic and COVID nineteen than you thought, shutting down people 41 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: like me preventing us from being able to make our arguments, etc. 42 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: And then Miami Beach. I'm down here in Miami right now, 43 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Miami Beach saying it does not want any more spring 44 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: break madness going on because there were two fatal shootings 45 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: in just the last few days. What's going on there 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: and what is the law and order situation? What has 47 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: to happen. Oh, one more thing to throw in the 48 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: mix here, Bill Bill Maher spoke about the reparations plan 49 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and he says it is completely insane, 50 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: which is interesting because anyone could see it as completely 51 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: insane except apparently Democrats in the state of California, Gavin Newsom, etc. 52 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Good on the list. We will discuss where all of 53 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: this is going in a little bit. I mean, first though, 54 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: this is big stuff because they've wanted to arrest Trump 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: from the very beginning. They've wanted to The Democrats have 56 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: hope to use the law as a tool as a 57 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: weapon against their political opponent all along. This has always 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: been the plan. I will never forget. Right after Trump's 59 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, I was living in the Flat Iron 60 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: District of New York City and there were angry mobs 61 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: marching through the streets, you know, in the tradition of 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the Jeco band during the French Revolution, you know, screaming 63 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: not my president, not my president, to which I really 64 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: wanted to tell them, untrue. He is, in fact you're president. 65 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: You cannot like that. But he is in fact the president. 66 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: So he's going to be. At that point, he was 67 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: going to be. He hadn't yet been sworn in. But 68 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: they have never given this up. They had the Russia 69 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: collusion lie, the most sophisticated, most extensive, dirty trick I 70 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: think ever done in modern politics in America. I don't 71 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: think anything really can line up the same way that 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion, media and FBI and intelligence community and 73 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: DJ all working together on a fabrication, a total fabrication. 74 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: There was no Ussia collusion, didn't exist, and yet how 75 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: many times was it spoken about? It was the prime 76 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: It was the number one news story in America in 77 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Democrat aligned media and really in conservative media too because 78 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: we were being forced to play defense on it. Number 79 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: one news story in America for three years. Total fabrication. 80 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: But why don't you trust the media, Well, gee, I 81 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe stuff like that makes me think they're 82 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: not that trustworthy. So then we have a series of 83 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: other I mean, I think it's just important to get 84 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: some of the context here of what has happened. A 85 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: series of other criminal possible indictments against Donald Trump, all 86 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: kinds of investigations. I may forget some, by the way, 87 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: so just I can't even do them all off the 88 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: top of my head, and I do this for a living. 89 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: There was, of course Russia collusion. There was obstruction of 90 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: justice with regard to Russia collusion. There was the Ukraine 91 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: phone call, which they said, well, certainly they impeached him 92 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: for it, and you know that was abuse of power. 93 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: There was the emolument's clause, the foreign diplomats eating cheeseburgers 94 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: in Trump hotel to buy us foreign policy. Just go back. 95 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: You'll see this in the Washington Post. Complete lunacy. The 96 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: tax stuff, remember all the I mean Rachel Maddow could 97 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: get It was really pathetic. I actually think it's sad 98 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: she could get the biggest numbers ever at MSNBC by 99 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: just saying, Oh, I don't know, I think we're gonna 100 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have the Trump tax returns. Remember that, Oh, 101 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: we've got a page of the Trump tax returns. You know, 102 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: it was in the tax returns. Nothing. It was a 103 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: stupid theory. In the first place, the federal government, the 104 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: IRS has the tax returns. It was really as though 105 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Libs had convinced themselves that somewhere there was going 106 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: to be a note from Vladimirir tooled down, well, thank 107 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you for helping me with the Russia collusion steal twenty 108 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: sixteen election. It doesn't work that way, Okay, Putin wasn't 109 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: going to have a little love note for Russia collusion 110 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: in the tax returns. That's crazy time. But how many 111 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: of them believed it? Millions and millions and millions of Democrats. 112 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: And then of course you had the Republican turn codes 113 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: who didn't get on the Trump train, refused even to 114 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the general election to get on the Trump train. And 115 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: so then being a conservative meant do everything you can 116 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: to tear down Trump and the Republican Party and conservatism. 117 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: And then they just went all the way around and 118 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: turned into full blown democrats who now go on TV 119 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: for the amusement of Democrats will speaking as a real Republican. 120 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I just think the transgender 121 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: story hour for teenagers or you know, are for little kids. 122 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I think that's conservatism, that's the heart of the constitution. 123 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: This is what they do, these fake Republicans. They go 124 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: on TV for the amusement of of Tina of Democrats. 125 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: They go on TV and they trash Republicans. So that's 126 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: all just necessary backstory for where we are right now. 127 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Bring you in to the current moment. New York's ring 128 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: of steel for Trump's looming arrest. That's on the Daily Mail. 129 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Cops set up barriers after former president pose for selfies 130 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: with fins at mar Lago sports cars and yacht parties. 131 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: So basically New York police are putting barriers up around 132 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: the Manhattan Court Complex because it is believed that Trump 133 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: will be arrested tomorrow. That is that has been reported 134 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: all over the place. Okay, this is what is being said. Now. 135 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: I do know from sources of mind, including former NYPD sources, 136 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: that this is a real conversation that is actually happening 137 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: inside the offices of the disattorney from Ant and Bragg 138 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: that this is so, this isn't a full blown this 139 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: is not a false alarm. This could really happen. And 140 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, Trump was as you can imagine very fired 141 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: up on truth Social over the weekend about this. So 142 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: the lead prosecutor for the corrupt Manhattan DA's office worked 143 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: as a lawyer for crooked Hillary Clinton and her law 144 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: firm left this Democrat firm with others to volunteer to 145 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: get Donald Trump at the DA's office for free. This 146 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: is from Trump's truth Social. He quit in a huff 147 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: when DA Bragg said there was no case here. He 148 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: then unethically in the league that he wrote and published 149 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: a book about the case. And what is going on. 150 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: This is unheard of stuff. There's there's so much from 151 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: Trump over the weekend. They are many years beyond the 152 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: statute of limitations, which is two years. More importantly, there 153 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: was no crime. And then this is the big one. 154 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: It is the District Attorney of Manhattan who was breaking 155 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: the law by using the fake, in fully discredited testimony 156 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: even by the Southern District of New York of a convicted, 157 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: convicted liar, felon and jailbird Michael Cohen, to incredibly persecute, 158 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: prosecute and indict a former president and now leading by 159 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: far of course, presidential candidate for a crime that doesn't exist. 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg should be held accountable for the crime of 161 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: interference in a presidential election. I think, I think that's 162 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: really what you have to keep in mind. Here is 163 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: there a way that the office of a prosecutor could 164 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: be more perverted for political purposes than to have a 165 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: district attorney, So a a city level employee of the 166 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: state of New York bring a prosecution that is should 167 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: be by all accounts, a misdemeanor at worst, it is 168 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: not even a crime. He has decided to come up 169 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: with some legal theory to elevate the non crime that 170 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: at worst would be a mis a meaner which is 171 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: like a parking ticket. Basically, it's not you know, it's 172 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a little worse than that, but to a felony, which 173 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: is completely insane. But you see, there's an important reason 174 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: why this is. This is happening for the Democrats, and 175 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: this is why I think it's it's possible that this 176 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: this goes even with the This is of all the 177 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: cases brought against Trump, of all the allegations, and this 178 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: one is in some ways the flimsiest and the craziest, 179 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: which is saying a lot because no one cares. It's 180 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: a non there's no victim here, all right, they're they're 181 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: talking about a payoff to Stormy Daniels, who I believe 182 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: lost a defamation suit against Trump and had to pay 183 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: him or pay his legal fees at least. So you 184 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: have a Stormy Daniels payoff from years ago. Who exactly 185 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: is the victim? I was just as served by this 186 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: notion of a prosecution of Donald Trump over this, because, oh, 187 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: if people had known about this on his return or 188 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: on his not his return his statement for the the 189 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: what do you call it to his campaign finance? There 190 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: you go, I'm trying to think of it. Sorry, then 191 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: they would have turned on Trump. They would have turned 192 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: on back to this. What is what is the one 193 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: thing that this will do possibly that I think people 194 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: aren't really looking closely enough at as a possibility that 195 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: then could cause a whole range of issues. What does 196 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: it do? What does it change? I'm gonna answer that, 197 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: but I want to answer it in just a minute. 198 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: You have to stay with me. 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I had mentioned, I had mentioned 231 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: what this will do if there's this indictment and arrest 232 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. But we're talking about and I know 233 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: there's so much here, folks. Jasantis did speak out about this. 234 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure over the weekend online. Why 235 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: isn't De Santa speaking. He did speak out about this. 236 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: He has said it is an abuse. We got to 237 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about that, the extradition and the political implications of 238 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: all this, which I'll also ask jd Vance about here, 239 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: Senator from Ohio in a few minutes. But there's something 240 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: really interesting that Andy McCarthy was one of our favorite 241 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: legal analysts period. Any McCarthy said over the weekend, which 242 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: is this indictment and arrest of Trump, may just be 243 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the breaking of the ice. It may just be the 244 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: moment that the floodgates open up and you could see others, 245 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: whether it's the Georgia election interference, you could see others. 246 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: You decide, well, if somebody else did this, we can 247 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: throw an indictment against Trump to play nine. That's Banana 248 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Republic stuff. If it's not a very strong case that 249 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: is compelling and deserves to be brought. I wonder, however, 250 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: whether it'll be fleeting, because I've always thought that once 251 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the first prosecutor crosses the rubicon. You have the Fulton 252 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: County prosecutor who's about to bring a election twenty twenty 253 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: case against Trump, and you have the special counsel who's 254 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: working on both the moral Ago documents and January sixth, 255 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: this may turn out to be. You know, it's a 256 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: frenzy right now, but in the coming weeks or months, 257 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: there may be there could be more right that this 258 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: that Brat First of all, understand this Alvin Bragg, you're 259 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: hearing about this. He's the He's the DA who came 260 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: into New York City and New Yorkers. I was there, 261 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: I was one of them. Were outraged when they found 262 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: out that he was basically gonna stop enforcing a whole 263 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: range of serious crimes. Hey, we've got a crime problem here, 264 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Why don't we just stop arresting people who are criminals. 265 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: That people lost their minds, including inside of the disc 266 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Attorney's office, they're saying, what are we doing here? But 267 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: he insures the District Attorney for Manhattan, Alvin Bragg, would 268 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: ensure that he would be a hero two Democrats forever 269 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: and all time if he brings this. If this indictment 270 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: goes forward and there's an arrest, that's all he has 271 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: to do. He doesn't even have to get a conviction, 272 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: but I think he would because it's New York. But 273 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to go that far. He could 274 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: even accept some kind of, you know, the most minor 275 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: of plea deals. But he will have prosecuted a former president. 276 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: He will, as Andy said, have crossed the rubicon. And 277 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: there will be other other prosecutors who realize, hold on 278 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: a second, I want to be a hero too. I 279 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: want to run for governor, maybe president, or at least 280 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: I want a million dollar book deal when I'm finished 281 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: with this quote public service I'm doing as a weaponized 282 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Democrat of the apparatus. So there could be others, right, 283 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: because the first one is the one that we'd say, Oh, 284 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: hold on a second, the interests of the nation aren't 285 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: aligned with this kind of a prosecution. Oh but now 286 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: some of those broader arguments about the future of our republic. 287 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Once one prosecution happens, it is much more likely there 288 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: could be others, and they will tie him down with 289 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: a count of countless counts. That's how they plan to 290 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: do it. I'll explain more later. 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The radical left 308 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: Democrats are using their prosecutors to try and steal another election. 309 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: There's never been a time like this in the history 310 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: of our country. Will be a lot tougher for them 311 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: to cheat and rig the election like they did in 312 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. And that's why they're using their city, state, 313 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and federal prosecutors. They are using them like has never 314 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: happened before in our country. Republicans in Congress are watching closely. 315 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: The DOJ should stop. We have to get our country back. 316 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: The DOJ, the FBI, the local prosecutors should all stop. 317 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: That was President Trump over the weekend, and he's talking 318 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: about the looming indictment and arrest that he may face tomorrow. 319 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: But as we said, we have Senator JD. Vance of 320 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: Ohio with us now. Senator Vance, appreciate you making the 321 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: time for US. I want to talk East Palestine. I 322 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: know you do too, But can I just get your 323 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: reaction to all the reporting over the weekend that the 324 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: former president number forty five, Donald J. Trump, is probably 325 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: going to be arrested in the next forty eight hours 326 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: or so. What do you think's go here? Well, I 327 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: certainly hope it's not true, but I fear that it 328 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: is because I've lost a lot of faith in some 329 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: of these Sourists backed prosecutors. If you if you really 330 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: look at what's happened to the local criminal justice system 331 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: in our country. These prosecutors come into town, they basically 332 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: shut down a lot of violent criminal prosecution. It's one 333 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: of the reason why you see murder rate skyrocketing. That's 334 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: certainly venture in New York City. And yet this guy 335 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: is going after Donald Trump. And I think obviously, you know, 336 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: because it's Trump, everybody is sort of retreating into their 337 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: partisan camps. And so, you know, the pitch that I 338 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: would make to anybody who's listening comes from the center, 339 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: comes from the left, is it's really not about Trumps 340 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: the man, It's about what he represents, right, I mean, 341 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about the likely Republican nominee in twenty four 342 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: certainly the former president. He is effectively the leader of 343 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: the opposition for all intensive purposes. And when you have 344 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's letting violent criminals walk free then going 345 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: after the president on a misdemeanor charge, it looks and 346 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: in fact is a consequence of a just system that's 347 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: more about politics than it is about real justice. You 348 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: can't have a real country like that, you know, you can't. 349 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: At George W. Bush, for example, prosecuting John Kerry in 350 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the two thousand and four campaign, a 351 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Barack Obama going after Mitt Romney in the middle of 352 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: the two thousand and twelve campaign. This is not what 353 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: functioning republics do. And the fact that so many Democrats 354 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: are defending this stuff, given the prosecutor royal history of 355 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: this particular district attorney, it's just insane. It just strikes 356 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: me that the people that have been complaining the loudest 357 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: about Trump as a threat to our institutions and the 358 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: threat to our democracy seemed to come up with new 359 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: and interesting ways to threaten our democracy all the time. 360 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: But putting that aside for a moment, we return to 361 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: that again later on the program. Senator Advance. I know 362 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: you have been following very closely and very involved in 363 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: the situation in East Palestine. You came on the show 364 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: when I was out and talked about the video of 365 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: how dirty the water was and what was going on there. First, 366 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: can you just give us an update before we talk 367 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: about possible legislative action for this on what's happening in 368 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: East Palestine right now? Yeah, So I was there last week. 369 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Things are certainly getting better, but they're getting better very slowly. 370 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: And this is the frustration that I've had. You have 371 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: people like Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, even though 372 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: she has these licensed facilities that are meant to dispose 373 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: of toxic chemicals, toxic dirt and so forth, refusing to 374 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: take this I think for a time being supported by 375 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: the Biden administration in her refusal to take the stuff 376 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: and dispose of it. And so it's just sitting on 377 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: the ground in East Palestine. When I was there last Monday, 378 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: I believe, I guess a week ago today, what I 379 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: saw was was literal mounds of toxic dirt just piling 380 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: high on the sides of the railroad tracks. And you 381 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: think about you know, you have this toxic chemical spill, 382 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: you have this stuff steeping into the dirt. You have 383 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: to get the dirt out of the ground and go 384 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: dispose of it properly. Right, Well, if you just let 385 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: it sit on the ground and then it rains, then 386 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: the stuff steeps back into the ground, steeps back into 387 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: the ground water, and that's why people on the ground 388 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: just don't feel safe. Somebody, I think, tried to pull 389 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: the residents of East Palestines sort of do an objective 390 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: public opinion survey, and what they found is about seventy 391 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: percent of the residents still don't trust the quality of 392 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: the air, don't trust the quality of the water. And 393 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: it's important to say here. I mean, people aren't worried 394 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: they're going to drink the water and drop dead the 395 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: next day. They're worried about chronic exposure for their kids. 396 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: And until we get this place cleaned up, they're going 397 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: to continue to have those concerns. So we've got to 398 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: finish the cleanup. The EPA, Norfolk Southern, they've got to 399 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: work together get this stuff to proper facilities, because they 400 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: can't just sit out in open air in the ground 401 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: in East Palestine. Being a Senator Jady Vans of Ohio 402 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: about East Palestine and Senator the Railway Safety Act that 403 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: you're proposing. I hate ever sounding naive, but looking through 404 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: the main points and the main goals of this, this 405 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: seems like the are a kind of thing that maybe 406 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: Democrats would go along with and maybe Biden would sign. 407 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: Where does this stand in? Well, first, what does it do? 408 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: You never know? I feel optimistic about the politics of it. 409 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: I think that there are three basic things that I'm 410 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: trying to do with these piece of legislations. So number 411 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: one is one of the things we already know about 412 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: East Palestine is it was caused by these defective joint bearings. 413 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: They basically got way too hot. There was not proper 414 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: monitoring of those joint bearings as they dissolved, and then 415 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: of course once they dissolved, the train crashed. So it 416 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: would basically impose some safety standards, basically just some monitoring devices, 417 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: they're very cheap, that would force our railroads to basically 418 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: prevent the stuff from happening before it happens. The second thing, 419 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: and this is maybe the biggest and most important thing, 420 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: is you know, the thing I've heard from local firefighters 421 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: and I had to say this because it's not just 422 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: these Palestine, it's from a lot of places all across 423 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: the state that have had these train crashes. The firefighters 424 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: go into them not knowing what they're dealing with. So 425 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: so imagine this. You're a firefighter. There's a train on fire. 426 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: You have no idea whether there's grain in it or 427 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: whether there's some toxic chemical like there was in East Palestine. 428 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: So it basically just forces the trains to notify the 429 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: local authorities about what's on the trains. I think that 430 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: should probably be the easiest part of the legislation gets through. 431 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: I don't think many people disagree with that piece of it, 432 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Democrat or Republican. You know, the final thing it does, 433 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: it just bumps up the fines. You know, if you 434 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: think of Norfolk, Southern I think operating income of about 435 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: five billion dollars, the Craft and East Palestine. The maximum 436 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: fine is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, when the 437 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: cost to taxpayers will be tens of millions of dollars. 438 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, my pitch to Republicans, I 439 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: think a lot of conservatives are justifiably worried. You don't 440 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: want to do a knee jerk reaction where you cause 441 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: some problem for the railroad that's unnecessary. And yet, if 442 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: you think about it, we've allowed the railroads to socialize 443 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: the costs of these disasters. An East Palestine taxpayers are 444 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: already bearing to the tune of millions of dollars, the 445 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: costs of clean up, the costs of topording small businesses, 446 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: the costs of taking care of people who are out 447 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: of work through no faults of their own. We should 448 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: expect the railroads to do their fair share here, and 449 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I think that's all we're really talking about, is having 450 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: a railroad sector that doesn't get bailed out by the 451 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: government every time they screw up. How much of now 452 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: that you've seen, really the reaction from the Biden administration, 453 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: it certainly seems slow, and there was a lot of 454 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: criticism in the early days of that slowness being at 455 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: least in part tied to the fact that these are 456 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: considered to be not Biden voters in East Palestine. Right. 457 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some, but it considered to be 458 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: have they Has the Biden White House gotten the message 459 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: a little bit with this is atrocious and these are 460 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: Americans and they need help. I mean, have they increased 461 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the attention to it or are they just kind of 462 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: putting it back burner. You know, the EPAS in a 463 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: letter last week that I was really happy about because 464 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: I thought they had been dragging their feet and allowing 465 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: Michigan to effectively get away Gretchen Whitmer to get away 466 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: with not taking care of some of the contract they 467 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: need to honor to get the toxic dirt out of 468 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: these Palestine so the EPA is picked up. I think 469 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: that by and large, the Bide administration has just been 470 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: way too slow on this. They're finally starting to show 471 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of enthusiasm and a little bit of urgency, 472 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: but it still looks I mean, this is a seventy 473 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: five twenty five Trump to Biden area. It's very clear 474 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: they want this story to go away. And I think 475 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: that what we're trying to do is use their desire 476 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: to make this story go away to say, look, the 477 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: only way we're gonna let you get it have it 478 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: go away is if you do your job clean up 479 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: this community, and then that allows everybody to get back 480 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: to normal. Until then, no, we're not gonna let this 481 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: story die. And you guys, obviously have done a great 482 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: job on that and I appreciate it. Center Advance, appreciate 483 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: you being with us, sir, stay on it. Absolutely take care, guys. 484 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Here's a statistic that I got to share with you, 485 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's a sad one. Nearly one in five 486 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: pregnancies and an abortion in this country, the abortion pill, 487 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: as it's referred to, is accounting for over fifty percent 488 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: of those abortions. Countering that. 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Find it on the iHeart 508 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. You know that 509 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: the left has started to go way too crazy. I 510 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: mean they're already crazy, but they're really going off the 511 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: rails of that crazy train. When you get people like 512 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Bill Mark coming out and just saying, you guys have 513 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. We can't really do this. 514 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Bill mars a Democrat, an absolutely devoted climate change guy. 515 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: A you know, Trump is so racist and love's talk 516 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: about racist and Bill Mars a Democrat. But there are limits. 517 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: There are limits even for Democrats these days, who still 518 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: have the capabilities, the faculties of rational reason, thought, reasonable thought. 519 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: They maybe don't apply it everywhere equally, but they still 520 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: maintain the ability. And we saw this the latest over 521 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: the reparation's plan for the city of San Francisco. Remember 522 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: what I told you, Oh it was, you know, five 523 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: million dollars. Remember I discussed the last week a modern 524 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: Bailey argument, right or anchoring in a negotiation. You know, 525 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: you go super high, so then when you have to 526 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: go low, it seems like you're being reasonable when any 527 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: price is unreasonable. Right, any price is unreasonable. That's how 528 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: you have to think about this. Any notion of the 529 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: taxpayers funding reparations in San Francisco is absurd, but they 530 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: don't think so. Bill mar Though did speak out on 531 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: this over the weekend on his show. I wanted you 532 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: to hear it heard from him, because when the Democrats 533 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: have lost Bill Maher, they've clearly gone a little crazy. 534 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Played twenty six San Francisco. They're going forward with this 535 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: plan to give reparations five million dollars, which that's quite 536 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: quite a lot. Even I didn't go this far. Five 537 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: million dollars and a house for one dollar they buy 538 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: you a high. I mean, it seems it seems like, 539 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, when people ask why you're talking against the 540 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: woke craziness because it's crazy, is it not crazy? And 541 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: by the way, San Francisco doesn't have a history of 542 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: slavery or anything like that. You know, it would cost 543 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: every citizen left six hundred thousand dollars each. This is madness, 544 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: is it not? It is madness obviously, But they're still 545 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: pushing for it. As I've said to you, because because 546 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: now they're they're talking about will a scale down scale 547 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: down payment. The proposal would cost non black families in 548 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco at least six hundred thousand dollars each. And 549 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: that's for the five millions. So now people say, well, 550 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: maybe it'll only be a few hundred thousand whatever if 551 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: this is all just completely insane, but you know, the 552 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Democrats will keep pushing. One thing that you've seen is 553 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat apparatus now is going to push in every 554 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: direction it can, to the extremes until sanity prevails and 555 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: is in power and people make them stop. That's it. 556 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: They will not stop of their own accord. It's they 557 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: will things like defund police and you know, and five 558 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: million dollars reparations and shots number six, seven, eight, nine, ten, mandatory, 559 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: all these things. These things only stop when reasonable people 560 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: in this country, say you are no longer in power. 561 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: We are not allowing you to do this. We are 562 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: making you stop. Just the suffering that you see in 563 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: all these different cities from Democrat policies, that that's not 564 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: really enough. They keep going. They think they're going to 565 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: get to the other side of this and there's a 566 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: beautiful social justice society that is just waiting for them. 567 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: After you know, years, maybe a few decades of rampant 568 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: crime and decay and disorder in major cities all over America, 569 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: they think that that's something that, you know, we just 570 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: have to go through. We just have to see it 571 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: through to the other side and everything will be fine. No, 572 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: we have to actually organize, take power and get engaged. 573 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: We have to do our part to stop the craziness 574 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: from happening. I think that's something you we all need 575 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: to remember. You know, I mentioned this. I spoke to UM. 576 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: I spoke to Mark Hemingway, who was a great writer, 577 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: husband of Molly Hemingway, who you all know from Fox. 578 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: We did a deep dive podcast with him. Go check 579 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: out the Clay and Buck podcast feed. We're also launching 580 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: a Clay and Buck well. We've got a whole bunch 581 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: of projects, a whole bunch of projects I want to 582 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: get out of myself. But the Sunday hangs, for example, 583 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: on Sundays, but I sat down with Mark Hemingway, whose 584 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: family comes from Oregon and you know he's for Generations, 585 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: goes back to Oregon and he just says, you have 586 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: to understand that Portland was destroyed by decisions made by 587 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: fists and they said, we're doing these things because we 588 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: are leftists, and they have made this city as unlivable 589 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: a hellhole as possible because they've convinced themselves that this 590 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: is necessary. And there he goes into the whole ideological history. 591 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: So you've got to go back to the podcast and 592 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: listen to this. But one thing again, subscribe to Clay 593 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. You'll see one thing though that. Oh 594 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: and Jesse Kelly, by the way, a lot of you 595 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: know Jesse Kelly. He's a not only is a great 596 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: radio host on Premier Networks, but he's also a friend 597 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: of mine, friend of Clay's. He joined me for about 598 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: an hour. We did a deep dive a whole bunch 599 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: of stuff that's coming out later on this week. But 600 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: again only on the podcast. You got to subscribe to 601 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: the podcast network, do you get that content? But the 602 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: limits that Democrats have of suffering from their own stupidity 603 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: are much more extensive than I think the right had realized. 604 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: It certainly saw this in New York City. You know, 605 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: it took way too long, way too much to the fact. 606 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: It really wasn't until the end of say, Mayor Build 607 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: a Blasio second term that you started to have Democrats. 608 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Every Republican, you know, all of Staten Island was like, 609 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: we told you so, right, Every Republican in New York 610 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: City knew that de Blasio was just a disaster, and 611 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: he was wrong about everything he did. He was a disaster, 612 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: He was bad for the city. He made everything worse. 613 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: But it wasn't really until the pandemic and the very 614 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: end when the crime spiking, or you even had some 615 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Democrats come along and say, okay, yeah, no, this guy's 616 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: pat news. But did they elect a rooted Giuliani. Did 617 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: they elect somebody who's really going to clean up the city. 618 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: It's not yet. Mayor Adams. I mean, you know, he 619 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: maybe will improve, but hasn't done it yet. Didn't really 620 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: get elected on a He got elected on an I 621 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: don't hate the cops was his Democrat platform, which is 622 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: that's an improvement over to Blasio, for sure, but it 623 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: wasn't I'm coming in to clean up the city, you know, 624 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: no matter what. I bring all this up just because 625 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: it's important that we don't throw our hands up and say, well, 626 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: eventually they'll figure out, you know, whether it's the reparations 627 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: program in San Francisco, eventually they'll figure out how crazy 628 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: they are. If you live in these cities or these states, 629 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get organized, and you gotta get mobilized now 630 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: to take power away at the ballot box. But also 631 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: just in the national conversation from the lunatic left, speaking 632 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: of which doctor Fauci gets absolutely schooled by a DC resident, 633 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: a gentleman who makes perfect sense, and just you got 634 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: you gotta hear this. He walked up to his door 635 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: and said, why won't you get the shot you're gonna 636 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: want to hear the answer that's coming up