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Wherever you may be and 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: however you may be listening to John Middlecoff, former NFL scout, 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: My buddy at the volume is stopping by building for 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong Today listen. I don't 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: know exactly what you can take from the preseason. I 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: do think you do get to see how quarterbacks, like 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I thought Caleb Williams yesterday under it looked like Chicago 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: had a real game plan. You didn't have a great 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Friday practice. We know stylistically what Ben and what Caleb 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: is are not a perfect match. But I as I 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: watched that, I thought, Oh, everybody in Chicago's breathing a 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: sigh of relief. That's my takeaway. They're like, Okay, we'll 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: score some touchdowns. Okay, it doesn't look because it's been 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: a choppy camp. That's fair to say. 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Well, especially when they turn on the Jets and they 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: see their former quarterback Justin Field's not being able to 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: complete a ball. So I think the last forty eight 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: hours for Bears fans, you can take a big, big 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: sigh of relief. 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Colin right, Colin wrong. We do it every Monday. 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Here we go where Colin was right. Sam Darnold and 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, Yeah, they looked really, really good. I just 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: think John Snyder the GM, they've had three straight back 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: to back to back great drafts. They're just too good. 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: If Jackson Smith and Jigma the Ohio State Buck, if 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: he can become a number one, and they think he is, 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they have a unit that's a problem. 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: This Gray's able. This offensive lineman they got, Oh my god, 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: he's moving Chris Jones around. I get a loaf of bread. 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: So Seattle Darnold look comfortable. I think when you watch 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks they are a top five or six roster. 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I really believe that where Colin was raw, I'll give 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: myself another wrong on Jackson Dart. He just looks rody poised. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you put him on a field, you watch 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: the Justin fields, and you see a big, big gap. 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's coaching, but I felt 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: he was more of a mid second round guy. I've 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: always felt the Giants' talent is I think they're a 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: quarterback away. But he is better and more comfortable than 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: I thought he would be. Even in the preseason where 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Colin was right, I've said the Bengals ownership gets in 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: the way of Joe Burrow. Reportedly they're shopping outside pass 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: rusher Trey Hendrickson, who, by the way, when he was 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: not on the field last year for Cincinnati, they were 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: thirty second in the league in defense. You can't ask 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to have to win a track meet every Sunday. 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Now Kansas City figured it out. They hire spags, they 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: get a great defense, and if Mahomes is off, they 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: can still win a game. So this is what I've 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: been saying for years. I think this year for Burrow, 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, he's going to demand 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: to move. Where Colin was raw, there's two things in 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: life I know aren't good for me. But I can't 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: help myself. Cigars and Joe Milton. He didn't have a 63 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: very good performance. The kid's got a cannon. He is 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: so mercurial, he is so up and down. He's all 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: over the map. This was not good. Sack took a safety. 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I've been tongue in cheek for years, 67 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you about it. He'll have one or 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: two preseason throws that looked like Lway and I'll take 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: a wrong on. 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: That where Colin was right. 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: What have I said about Mike McDaniel. I know he's smart, 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: but the Dolphins feel like a bowl of jello. Where's 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the meat in the culture, Where's the meat in the sandwich? 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Listen to Jalen Ramsey, the former Dolphin, talk about moving 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: away from Miami. 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: I do appreciate the Dolphins and them working with me 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: and David, you know, not just hey, this team called 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: and you know we're gonna see you here and this 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: and that. Like it wasn't any of that. It was 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: very open communication. Y'all been good to us. I've been 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: good to y'all. Like, let's do it the right way. 82 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: Let's go to a team that's gonna be able to compete. 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: Let's go to a team where there's a lot of 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 4: respect for the head coach. 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Interesting, go to a team where there's a lot of 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: respect for the head coach. Feels like a little shade thrown. 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: At Eminem where Colin was real. 88 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, I've downplayed Matt Stafford's back injury. It feels 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: more serious. He's out at practice today, but they don't 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: really have a contingency plan. Stepson Bennett's not the answer. 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: And you know Jimmy garofflows aged quickly. So this multiple 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: reporting today that I trust is they're crossing their fingers 93 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: on this stuffs like there's a reason they're keeping them 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: out practice because when he had a practice with thirty 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: snaps the next day he couldn't practice. So this is 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: probably more serious than I've let on where Colin was right, 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I've said at the minute Taylor Swift started showing up 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: on TV, Guys, she is great for football. She's going 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: to expand the base. Listen to this. The Chiefs principal 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: owner Clark Hunt said last week, our fan base used 101 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: to be fifty to fifty men and women. It's now 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of our fans are female. Probably the 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: highest in the National Football League. So she has expanded 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: the fan base. There was this sense that she's gonna 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: turn a lot of guys off. Never bought into that. 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: She is a stimulus package with a microphone. She is 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: great for every business. She's likable, she's gifted. She seems 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: to deeply want to learn and know a lot about football. Guys, 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, We're all gonna be okay. With 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift where Colin was right, Well, Trevion Henderson, the 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: running back out of Ohio State, I didn't understand how 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: you could not draft him before Quinn Shawn Judkins, the 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: ever Ohio State running back. Well, from what I've seen 114 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason, he may be the steal of the draft. 115 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: So of the two Ohio State backs, He's a better receiver, 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: he's a better pass blocker, he's a better runner. He 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: was also better in high school. Early in college he 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: was a five star running back. He has been really, 119 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: really good for New England. So, and we had said 120 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: this last year, Like very few guys, last year was 121 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: a week draft. There were very few players in the 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: draft that jumped off the television when you watched him. 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Henderson was one of them, and I think they have 124 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: got They've got themselves. The steal of the draft a 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: home run. I would not be shocked if he's not 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: a top five or six running back in the league, 127 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: because running backs age quickly in the NFL. For the record, 128 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: the Browns now are officially naming Joe Flacco. Is there 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: Week one starting quarterback against the Bengals. Yeah, we knew that. 130 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Who's the backup? I know that that's not news. News 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: is and the number two is. 132 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio App. 135 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a fantasy 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: football podcast called I Want Your Flex. 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: That's right, Dan. 138 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 6: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 6: the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, sit starts, 140 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 6: the competition. 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Harmon and 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 5: meet Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and 144 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. 145 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Heard Hierarchy, Fama, No No No, The Top ten NFL 146 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: teams according to College number ten. 147 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Detroit lost both co ordinators who were excellent, lost a 148 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: couple of their best offensive linemen on the interior. That's 149 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: an issue. That's why they addressed it in this draft. 150 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: They've already had injuries in this preseason, and so I 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: have They're the fourth NFL team to lose both coordinators 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years. It's hard go ass Philadelphia, 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and especially when they're elite coordinators that get head coaching jobs. 154 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: So the divisions better lost their coordinators. I have Detroit 155 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: at number ten, number nine. Green Bay very quiet camp. Now, 156 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love struggled in the division last year. He was 157 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: one and five, only beat the Bears barely, so that's 158 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: a little concerning. But they upgraded their receiving corps. You know, 159 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: they've They've added some nice pieces, not necessarily game changers, 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: although they improve the interior of their offensive line. And 161 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I just think they've had a quiet camp. I'm not 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: worried about the Jordan Love left hand injury at all. 163 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I think this is a well run operation. I like 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: teams that are quiet in July and August. They have been. 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: I have them at nine, number eight. The Rams. This 166 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: is I would have them much higher. I'd have them 167 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: two or three, but the Matt Stafford injury is concerning. 168 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: No team played more rookies than the Rams last year, 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: which you'd think is a bad thing, but they were 170 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: also the least penalized team in the league. They have 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: a smart, young, hyper aggressive defense that will be the 172 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: key to their team, not Matt Stafford, but you got 173 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: to have Stafford on the field. They're not particularly strong 174 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: at backup the division solid Rams at number eight, number seven, 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: the Commanders. I may have them higher. I don't like 176 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: the Terry McLaurin vibe. I think you have to give 177 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks dependable weapons. Their offensive line is still okay. 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: DBO will help, but I think I think the Giants 179 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: could be a tough, mediocre team. Philadelphia is not going backwards, 180 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: so I think there's some tough games on the schedule 181 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: back to back playoff teams from last year to uh No, 182 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: that's Green Bay. I think Washington overall is going to 183 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: be good. I do not think they'll end up in 184 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, so they may take a step back 185 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: and how they finish, but I still think they'll be 186 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: a very viable, fun team to watch in the playoff. 187 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Team Number six Seattle back to back to back draft 188 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: that I like. They are going to rely on that 189 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: run game. They upgraded their offensive line, their defense will 190 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: be in the second year under Mike McDonald. The early 191 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: schedule is pretty easy for sam Donold, who I do 192 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: believe is a better version of Geno Smith. He's a 193 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: better athlete, can be a bit reckless, but he's a 194 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: West Coast kid. I think he's comfortable. I think they 195 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: upgraded an offensive coordinator. So I just think this a 196 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: team if Jackson Smith and Jacoba can become a number 197 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: one ride receiver. I like their backs, I like their 198 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: O line like I like their secondary. There's not a 199 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: lot about Seattle I don't like. And if Stafford, by 200 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the way, did not play much this year, I already 201 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: have them winning the division. That could be two wins. 202 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Number five Kansas City. Listen, in the last two seasons, 203 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: they've been number fifteen in scoring offense, all right, So 204 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: they're getting old at tight end. Chris Jones is not 205 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: getting younger. I really like the hierarchy of the franchise, 206 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: but they're not going to go eleven to zero one 207 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: score games the division's tougher. God, if they could go, 208 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: if they could go eight and four in one score games, 209 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: you'd feel great about it. But I think they're built 210 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: for the postseason. Great coaching, great quarterback, old weapon. But 211 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I think they'll get dinged up in the regular season. 212 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: I have Kansas City. They're still waiting on that. Rashi 213 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Rice News on the suspension. That doesn't help because I 214 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: thought he developed into a volume number one wide receiver, 215 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe a lower tier one, but a one. I have 216 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: him at five, number four Broncos. Listen, they didn't just 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: add players. They added elite players. Drake Greenlaw, Evan Ingram 218 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: who fun get safety. Last year's defense was good and aggressive. 219 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Why would it go backwards? So again bo Nicks in 220 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: a second year. The old line is rated number two 221 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: according to PFF in preseason. So last year caught us 222 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: by surprise. This year, all their good young players are 223 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: a year older. In the system of Sean Payton. I 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: have Denver at number four, number three Baltimore, and they're 225 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna win seventy five percent of their games with Lamar 226 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Jackson number one total offense last season, top ten scoring defense. 227 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: They do everything well. I mean they really do. They 228 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: can throw it, they can run it, special teams, defense, culture. 229 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the best run organization along with 230 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City in the National Football League, maybe Philadelphia. But 231 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: what don't they do well? Well? They don't win a 232 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of playoff games, Okay, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, now, 233 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Harball. It's hard in the AFC. I 234 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: have Baltimore at three, but I think the world's best 235 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: football players, Josh Allen, I'll put Buffalo at two. Also, 236 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo in their division should go two and oh against 237 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Miami and two and oh against the Jets, and should 238 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: be a much better team overall than New England. I 239 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: think they come in with a better seed. James Cook 240 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: is wrapped up. I think he's a really, really good 241 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: running back. I don't know if John and I have 242 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: talked about this. James Cook quietly has become a really 243 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: nice running back in a weapon. I think they've drafted well. 244 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: I don't think their rosters overall as good as Baltimore. 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's overall as good as Philadelphia, but 246 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I think their quarterback is able to do things to 247 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: extend plays and elevate teammates that nobody else in the 248 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: sport can do. I have Buffalo at two, number one. Listen, 249 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: not only was their defense number one last year, I 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: looked it up this morning. It was the youngest defense 251 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: in the league and the cheapest, so they knew everything right. 252 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they're as good at quarterback. I think 253 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: when you can force Philadelphia to play from behind and 254 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you can force them to throw, they're not as dangerous 255 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: as a Buffalo is forced to throw or a Kansas 256 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: City is. But again it's they do everything well. They 257 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: GM well, they quarterback well, their line plays incredible. Saquon 258 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Barkley has just been jet fuel to an uber talented roster. 259 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: So there is my Herd hierarchy a couple of teams. 260 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Where are the Chargers? I think the Rashawn Slater injury 261 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: is a real problem. They are a Joe Alt twisted 262 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: ankle from being in real trouble up front, and I 263 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: still don't trust their receiving corp outside of Ladmaconkey. So 264 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I have them at eleven, Bengals at twelve. 265 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 266 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: and noone Easter non a Empacific. 267 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Well I've been looking forward to this all day. Mac 268 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: Brown the national champion head coach with Texas. I mean, 269 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: he knows, he knows where all the skeletons are buried 270 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: in this sport. And there's a lot of change. And 271 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I always thought Mac had the ability to teach and 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: coach in a joyful way. He lovely did when he 273 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: returned to Carolina. The players loved him. But sometimes it's 274 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: just time to move to the hill country in Austin, 275 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Texas and enjoy life a little bit. And Mac Brown 276 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: is now joining US Live coach. You know, I was 277 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: thinking about this everybody, And I've said this before. I 278 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: think I said years ago the best job in football 279 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: in America is coaching the Texas Longhorns. And I said that, 280 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: and a coach texted me and he goes, Listen, it's 281 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: a good job, he goes. But there's a lot of drama. 282 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of boosters, there's a lot of stuff 283 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the Longhorned Network. And I love Sark, I really do 284 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: love Sark, but I think it's one of those jobs coach. 285 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: It's a little harder than people think. You know, at 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Alabama football runs everything, but at Texas it's a music town, 287 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: it's a food town. When you watch Sark coach, do 288 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: you envy him or do you understand sometimes what he's 289 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: going through. 290 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 7: I think it's a great question, Colin, but I really 291 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 7: think it's both. For I love the University of Texas. 292 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 7: I think it is the best job in the country 293 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 7: and especially within ale, because you've got a chance, because 294 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 7: you've got people that are passionate in the care and 295 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 7: the only way you can manage it you got to 296 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 7: take their passion and it's really pride and it's not pressure, 297 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 7: and they want to win so badly, and you've got 298 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 7: to be able to handle all the outside noise. And 299 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 7: Sarks coached at Washington, he's coached at USC, so he's 300 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 7: done all this. He's been there, done that. I really 301 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 7: like him and I respect him, and he's doing a 302 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 7: tremendous job. But after you coach at Texas, it's really 303 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 7: tough because you really got everything you need. When I 304 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 7: first got there, I asked the loss doctar. I said, 305 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: I like to buy this. Does it fit in our budget? 306 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 7: And he said, coach, you don't have a budget. You 307 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 7: whatever you want. I said, we don't have a budget, 308 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 7: and he said no, man, you go through it and 309 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 7: ask the loss one time as our athletics director, how 310 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 7: hard is your job? And he said, when you're winning, 311 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: mine's easy. When you're losing, I don't have a job 312 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 7: that's so good. 313 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: They have Arch Manning and the Manning family is classy, smart. 314 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean Archs Manning could have transferred not interested supported 315 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Quinn yours. I maybe I'm worrying about something that doesn't matter. 316 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow became like a celebrity quarterback Cam Newton in college. 317 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Would you be worried about the burden, the expectation, the celebrity. 318 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you got Texas's program, the Manning name. Would 319 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: you be a little worried about that if you were 320 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: sart coming into the season. 321 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 7: Yes, And you have less worries because Archie Manning's the granddad, 322 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 7: and Eli and pateon their uncles and Cooper's been through 323 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 7: this whole ride with all of them, the dad, uh 324 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 7: and this this family handles that. They got class, they 325 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 7: got charisma, they got confidence. They have done all of 326 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 7: these things they need to do. And I've been around 327 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 7: arch enough. He's just a smart he's uh self deprecating. 328 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 7: He'll he'll laugh, he he He'll he'll talk about people 329 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 7: that have said critical things of him and say, yeah, 330 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 7: I can understand that. It's just I haven't played a 331 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 7: lot yet. And uh so I'm I'm really excited to 332 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 7: watch him play. I watched Chris Sims go through this 333 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 7: with his dad winning a super Bowl at Texas, And 334 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 7: then I watched I watched Vince Young and his last 335 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 7: year going through. Is he gonna win the Heisman? Is? 336 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 7: Is he better than Matt Liners? You better than Reggie Bush? 337 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 7: And and Vince has got a really good perspective on 338 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 7: being the quarterback here. But arch is really into the guys. 339 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 7: He's into that locker room, and that's what's so critical 340 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 7: for a quarterback. And and the thing Colin I think 341 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 7: people miss on Arch is Archie could run. Granddad, we 342 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 7: all saw him. I played with You could run, and 343 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: and Eli and Peyton were they could run, but there 344 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: were more pocket quarterbacks. Arch can run, and and that 345 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 7: will give him a chance. They got four new offensive lineman, 346 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 7: so that's going to be difficult going to Ohio State. 347 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 7: But when you've got a quarterback that can run, it 348 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 7: makes those offensive blind mund look a lot. 349 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Better, you know. So Belichick takes your gig. It's interesting 350 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: because usually when a legend like you retires, they bring 351 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: in a young hot shot. They didn't. They brought in 352 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: an old NFL guys who kind of has a way 353 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: of doing things. I think I'll throw it and give 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: you my take. I think NIL saves Bill. I don't 355 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: think Bill would have succeeded in the old way of 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: building through high school players, but the NIL is almost 357 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: professional football. I think it gives him a chance. But 358 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: I also think Mac seventeen hours Max, I mean, you 359 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: don't get the hours. You can't have a sixty hour week. 360 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Kids have more power. There's a lot of stuff here 361 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't know, give me your crystal ball. 362 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: What do you think Bill will handle effortlessly? And what 363 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: could be something that'll he'll kick around a little bit. 364 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 7: The first thing Colin Chancellor Lee Roberts has committed the 365 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 7: football big time for the first time in North Carolina history. 366 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 7: They are really wanting football to be good, so they're 367 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 7: all in and that gives them a chance to be successful. 368 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 7: Bill is arguably the best coach of any sport. When 369 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 7: you win that many Super Bowls at whatever level, the 370 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 7: man can coach, he can evaluate because he had to 371 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 7: bring in all those kids at the Patriots and now 372 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: administrators don't like to say it, but we have pro 373 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 7: football at some level in college. We no longer have amateurism. 374 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 7: We have payment scals, we've got nil kids are asking 375 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 7: for money, they have agenciers negotiations. So I do think 376 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: the fact that we are much more like the NFL 377 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: than ever before will really help Bill with this transition. 378 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 7: The other thing is every coach wants his own players 379 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 7: and takes you two or three years to get your 380 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 7: guys in there. He's brought in seven tune you guys, 381 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 7: so you got money, you can evaluate, and you can 382 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 7: bring in who you want. I think he has a 383 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 7: chance to win big and win big fast. 384 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: We were talking about this. It seems like about every 385 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: third year you get a really really good quarterback class 386 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: and caid club Nick h is I swear? Is he 387 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: from Austin? He may be from Austin, Texas? It what 388 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: is he? 389 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 7: Yes? Right, Westlake High School? 390 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: That's right, So he where you're at, he's from there. 391 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: So I went back and I watched his high school stuff, 392 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: and I went I went deep diving a couple and 393 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I saw him play a few times for Clemson. He 394 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: moves like arch Manning. He can move a little bit. 395 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: Now he's he'll four six five, he can run. You 396 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: faced him, I think twice at Carolina, I remember one 397 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: for sure, twice. What when you after those games? Was 398 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: he better in person? Were there things he struggled with? 399 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: Give me a give me a little bit of a 400 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: If I'm an NFL GM and I call you, I say, Mac, 401 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of drafting Caid club Nick, give me a 402 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: thumbnail sketch on him. What you think of him? 403 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 7: I saw him in high school. My son went to 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 7: Westlake High School. Todd Dodge was his coach, and I 405 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 7: knew Todd really really well. We recruited him and couldn't 406 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 7: get him to come. I think he's really really good 407 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: the two times that we played him. The first time 408 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 7: he was good, but okay, maybe a little cautious. Last year, 409 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 7: at the end of the year he got really confident. 410 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 7: He nearly brought him back in Austin in a huge 411 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 7: game playoff game. But especially for him at home, He's tough, 412 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 7: he can run, he can throw, he's accurate, he's confident, 413 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 7: and I think he gives Clemson a chance to be 414 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 7: really really good. 415 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Clemson hasn't done the NIL stuff. You 416 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: were a legendary recruiter. Belichick, Dion Sanders, Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, 417 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: they're all in on it. I worry that NIL erodes chemistry. 418 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what I worry about. I feel like you don't 419 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: know the odometer on a used car. I like to 420 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: know what I know about. My guys have been recruiting 421 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: since they were high school soft. What did you make 422 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: of NIL? Does it? I mean, forget the pay of 423 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: the players, kid, they obviously deserve some compensation, but what 424 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: does it do to a locker room? Does anything worry 425 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: you about the portal or nil? 426 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 7: Colin is another great question. I do think the major programs, 427 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 7: the brand programs that are going to have the majority 428 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 7: of the money, it's going to ruin the competitive balance 429 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 7: in college football because we're going to have the same 430 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 7: fifteen playing at the end. And if you've got enough 431 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 7: money to recruit high school players and keep them, then 432 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: NIL is not going to bother you when you bringing 433 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 7: in all the different guys. It's really hard. So what 434 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 7: we learned is if you've got money and you buy 435 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 7: a team, it doesn't mean you're going to win. Number One, 436 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 7: you got to buy the right ones. Number two, they've 437 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 7: all got to fit well in that locker room. You've 438 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 7: got to mesh together as a team, which is hard 439 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 7: in a short period of time. And number three, they've 440 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 7: they've got to be unselfish. And that's one thing we're 441 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 7: looking at right now. I saw Cedric Benson in the 442 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 7: locker room after we beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl, 443 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 7: sit there crying because he didn't want to take his 444 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 7: uniform off. And he was a first round draft choice 445 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 7: and he just sat there and I said, why are 446 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 7: you crying? He said, this is the last time I'll 447 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 7: ever have this uniform on. And I'm not sure we're 448 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 7: going to have that loyalty at schools that are bringing 449 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 7: in all the transfers now as much as the one 450 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: like sarcle only brought in ten transfers ten eleven. He's 451 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 7: building it with high school guys. Clemson is building it 452 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 7: with high school guys. They bring in a few transfers, 453 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 7: but not many. So at the highest level, if you 454 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 7: can continue to bring in and develop the right guys 455 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 7: and you're recruiting the right guys, I think You're going 456 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 7: to have the chance to be the most consistent program 457 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 7: programs in the long haul through this NIL period. 458 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 459 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern a Empacific. 460 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 5: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a fantasy 461 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: football podcast called I Want Your Flex. 462 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: That's right, Dan. 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 6: Every week we're going to scour the waiver wire to 464 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 6: find the pickups to turbot boost your fantasy lineup, sit starts, 465 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 6: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 466 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 6: the competition. 467 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 5: Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and 468 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: meet Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and 469 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. 470 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like, you know, I'm I'm 471 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: kind of with sark on that. Or like, if you're 472 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Ohio State and you bring in like Caleb Downs, if 473 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: you can bring in a first round pick, go get 474 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: him by all means. But I worry about that. 475 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 7: Oh. 476 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: By the way, I gotta ask you about Drake may So. 477 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I like. One of the things I like about Drake 478 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: may he was your quarterback for several years, is that 479 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: I like he comes from a family of athletes and 480 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: older brothers, and there is something about that coach, about 481 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: the toughness, you know, playing with your brothers buddies and 482 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: you're getting thrown around the basketball court and the football. 483 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: Give me, did you notice that with Drake? Because in 484 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the NFL is a rookie, they're gonna haze you, They're 485 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna be on you. You're carrying luggage, they're getting Rabel's 486 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: a tough guy. What about Drake may impressed you? Beyond 487 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: the s the arm? What else did you like about it? 488 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 7: He said, when he was a kid, he had to 489 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 7: fight for food. He had all those brothers in there, 490 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: so everything he did he would have to compete and fight. 491 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 7: So they'd played pickleball and get mad. And one day 492 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 7: I walked in the player's lounge and there was a 493 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 7: broken ping pong paddle and I said, who broke the paddle? 494 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 7: And he's sitting over in the corner and they all 495 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 7: pointed to Drake. I said, Drake, why'd you break the paddle? 496 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 7: He said, the tight end beat me in ping pong? 497 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 7: Can you imagine the tight end beat me in ping pong? 498 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 7: And I said yeah, but I still think you can 499 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 7: keep the paddle clean without breaking it. But he is 500 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 7: so competitive, he's smart, he's got a great heart. He 501 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 7: is a wonderful team leader. He'll have that locker room 502 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 7: fighting for him in every minute, and I just love him. 503 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 7: I think he's a quarterback that's going to win a 504 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 7: Super Bowl. 505 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Okay. Finally, Mack and I talked for 506 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: a couple minutes before we went on the air, and 507 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: he moved to Austin, Texas, which is one of America's 508 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: great cities. And I'm not telling you where, but I 509 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: know what golf course he's on and it's darn nice. 510 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And I told you during the break, 511 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I said, my wife said, you need to get a hobby, 512 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: and I can never find one. And then two years 513 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: ago I got oddly, bizarrely into obsessed with golf and 514 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: I just crazy, like you know, just I'm into it 515 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: all the time. And tell me a little bit about 516 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: are you playing golf regularly, Colin? 517 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 7: I'm playing just about every day. I'm playing six holes, 518 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 7: nine holes, twelve holes, and I just love it. And 519 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 7: as a coach, you played, but you played with boosters. 520 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 7: They were asking about the quarterback or why'd you do 521 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 7: this or why'd you do that? They told you you 522 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: can play bad, but don't play bad and slow. You 523 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 7: got to play fast. You never practice, You're always shaking 524 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 7: hands before you hit the ball on the first tee 525 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 7: in a tournament. So I've never been able to really 526 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 7: play golf and enjoy it. And now I am just 527 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 7: absolutely loving it. So I'm I'm doing my work, I'm 528 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 7: doing some stuff, and then I head to the golf course. 529 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: And what did your You have a friend that told you? 530 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: I want I want you to share this with our audience, 531 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: because it really is so true. What did your You 532 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: have a friend that's a golfer, What did he tell 533 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: you about golf? 534 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 7: I was playing with my friend the other day and 535 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 7: he was playing awful. He was really struggling. So he 536 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 7: looked at me at the end of the match and 537 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 7: he said, uh, you know, coach, this is really interesting golf. 538 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 7: I said, wait, wait, talking about bud and he said, 539 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 7: it costs a lot of money. It takes all day 540 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 7: to play four and a half five hours. You hit 541 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 7: a lot of bad shots and it makes you absolutely miserable, 542 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 7: and as soon as you get through, you can't wait 543 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: to get back on the forced and I think that's gone. 544 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: And it's expensive. I mean, it checks every bad. 545 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 7: And when you get home, your wife's man, where have 546 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 7: you been? Note, it's awful. I had so many bad shots. 547 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. It's great to see you as 548 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: owas great great American sports storyteller. Mac. I love you, 549 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 550 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 7: Thanks Colin, love you and appreciate what you do.