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Speaker 4: Sir, you probably heard that you're supposed to get like
Speaker 4: ten thousand steps a day, but according to new research,
Speaker 4: just seven thousand steps a day could be.
Speaker 2: Enough to improve your health. Do you I hear six?
Speaker 4: It really sounds like scientists have lowered their X expectations
Speaker 4: for us. Explains why the new Surgeon General warning on
Speaker 4: cigarettes as do not smoke during pregnancy unless it's your
Speaker 4: second kid.
Speaker 2: Then what else?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the jokes, but the problem is the
Speaker 3: original ten thousand step thing was completely made up. The
Speaker 3: problem with a lot of health stats, and we're about
Speaker 3: to get into some here, is they're misinterpreted regularly. Oftentimes
Speaker 3: they're very very small, preliminary studies that the researchers themselves
Speaker 3: would never put out there as a national story to
Speaker 3: talk about. But it's something exciting about something that can
Speaker 3: cause cancer or eliminate cancer or whatever, and so the
Speaker 3: media goes crazy with it. And then there's studies that
Speaker 3: are paid for by like, you know, mattress companies or
Speaker 3: candy bars or whatever, and lo and behold the study
Speaker 3: says eating more chocolate leads to better sex life or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, So sure you gotta watch out for that.
Speaker 3: Before we get to that stuff of things real quick,
Speaker 3: first of all, can we make a vow? We need
Speaker 3: to make a vow. I don't think we can keep it,
Speaker 3: but we should try. We should make a vow every
Speaker 3: day and work toward this goal to stop talking about
Speaker 3: cable news as if anybody's watching it.
Speaker 2: Because nobody is. So that's so fine with me.
Speaker 3: Yea, I agree. But anytime you talk about Jake Tapper
Speaker 3: said this or whatever.
Speaker 2: It might be interesting for some reason, but nobody is
Speaker 2: watching that show. Nobody.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking at this stats that Byron York
Speaker 3: just put out from Fox. It's more likely you're watching
Speaker 3: a Fox show. Certainly, but uh, CNN's total audience during
Speaker 3: their five.
Speaker 2: Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and eleven PM hours. You're
Speaker 2: cherry picking.
Speaker 3: Added together don't beat one showing of the five, which
Speaker 3: is not even one of Fox's highly rated shows. Oh
Speaker 3: so talking about anything on CNN or MSNBC really is you?
Speaker 2: Who are you talking to? Boy? It is the ultimate
Speaker 2: example of something holding on to just any reputation based
Speaker 2: entirely on its gloried pass.
Speaker 3: And my people who are old enough to remember when
Speaker 3: it mattered. If you're younger, you don't even know what
Speaker 3: it is. Right, Well, it's in airports.
Speaker 2: Inexplicably, we got this CNN have a picture of the
Speaker 2: head of the FAA with a mule or something. I mean,
Speaker 2: how is CNN on an airport's all over America? That
Speaker 2: is almost that is almost certainly the explanation. Well there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Anyway, moving along, we got this text about that horrible
Speaker 3: story in New York, the shooting. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: deal with it real quick in case I did use
Speaker 3: sloppy language. You're putting out fake news again. The shooter
Speaker 3: in New York never played in the NFL. I didn't
Speaker 3: mean to imply that he did. I thought I said
Speaker 3: he was a high school star and that's where his.
Speaker 2: Current You never stated anything that could be taken to
Speaker 2: indicate that he played in the NFL. Well, I guess
Speaker 2: you made reference to other Okay, yeah, whatever, that's fine, Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: he didn't play in the NFL, but he does see
Speaker 2: some budsman weighing in there.
Speaker 3: He did seem to be blaming that brain mouth function
Speaker 3: that you can get from playing football, though, as he
Speaker 3: had a note about that and shot himself in the
Speaker 3: chest and wants his brain to be studied, which doesn't
Speaker 3: make him some sort of anybody to look up to
Speaker 3: because he killed a bunch of innocent people like a scumbag. Right,
Speaker 3: if you didn't get enough sleep last night, you've doubled
Speaker 3: your chance at Gang Green.
Speaker 2: I hope you're happy. Oh no, not another bout of
Speaker 2: gang Creen. Another bout.
Speaker 3: It ruined my summer vacation. Oh wow, it certainly ruined
Speaker 3: my beach. Look my beach body.
Speaker 2: Getting too big studies.
Speaker 3: This is pretty damned interesting and a bit of a breakthrough.
Speaker 3: I think we've been talking about sleep stuff a lot.
Speaker 3: Everybody that I know deals with sleep issues or if
Speaker 3: you're getting a enough sleep. They found a way pretty
Speaker 3: simple with having instead of self reporting about sleep, which
Speaker 3: is all you had to really go on up until
Speaker 3: fairly recently. Now you can have everybody wear these little
Speaker 3: devices that report on how much sleep you're actually getting.
Speaker 3: And there are way too many fake long sleepers in
Speaker 3: all studies we've ever heard. They actually that's what they
Speaker 3: actually call them, fake long sleepers in studies we've heard
Speaker 3: about through our whole lives. It's people maybe like me,
Speaker 3: who report a certain number of hours asleep but actually
Speaker 3: get much less. If you actually wear a device that
Speaker 3: measures how much you're sleeping, just because you're in bed
Speaker 3: and semi unconscious, that amount of time doesn't mean you're
Speaker 3: actually sleep sleeping. And so they had people wear these
Speaker 3: devices trying to track how much like actually you were
Speaker 3: asleep sleep you got. The numbers are a lot lower,
Speaker 3: And so those other numbers skewed everything we've ever had
Speaker 3: about sleep because you got a whole bunch of people
Speaker 3: in there claiming they sleep eight hours a night and
Speaker 3: they're actually sleep in six.
Speaker 2: Is anybody struck anybody else struck by the hilarious irony
Speaker 2: of self reporting sleeping habits? I mean, if there's one
Speaker 2: one period of my life I can't really account for.
Speaker 2: It's when I'm asleep. True.
Speaker 3: It's the largest study of its kind ever. Researchers strapped
Speaker 3: fitness trackers on nearly ninety thousand adults for a week,
Speaker 3: followed their health for almost seven years. Among people who
Speaker 3: claimed to sleep more than eight hours a night late
Speaker 3: nearly a twenty two percent, so a fifth we're actually
Speaker 3: getting six or less. That's a big chunk of people
Speaker 3: who thought they were getting eight hours of sleep and
Speaker 3: they're getting six or less.
Speaker 2: That's that's enormous. Yes, statistically, that's like, why are you
Speaker 2: even talking about the previous numbers?
Speaker 3: They're ridiculous, right, But let me jump to the headlines
Speaker 3: from it, other than the headline that everything you've ever
Speaker 3: heard about sleep studies is fake because of what do
Speaker 3: they call them? Lying bash that's not what they called
Speaker 3: them fake long sleepers. My bastards would be too harsh,
Speaker 3: that'd be appropriate. Uh, sleep rhythm matters more than sleep duration.
Speaker 3: Inconsistent or weak. Daily sleep rhythms were linked to eighty
Speaker 3: three diseases and then they list them and we could
Speaker 3: get into that later with the sleep rhythm ing when
Speaker 3: you're going in and out of RAM like happens.
Speaker 2: If you've ever learned anything about.
Speaker 3: Sleep disease burden is comparable to smoking or obesity. Up
Speaker 3: to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's These numbers can't be true,
Speaker 3: can they? Up to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's and
Speaker 3: thirty six percent of type two diabetes could be attributed
Speaker 3: to disrupted sleep patterns.
Speaker 2: That's a lot that. That's an extraordinary claim. I am,
Speaker 2: I got my fur up p too. I'm very free. Wow.
Speaker 2: What's what's our source here? What's our publication? Is this?
Speaker 3: It's a dirty Chinese research led by doctor Quinn Chen
Speaker 3: Army Medical University and Cheng Wang Peck Peak University. Okay,
Speaker 3: are you concerned that the Chinese are trying to infiltrate
Speaker 3: our sleep device?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm highly skeptical about all of this. The idea
Speaker 2: that bad sleep rhythms are more serious a problem than
Speaker 2: we understand that, that's perfectly reasonable. But a bunch of
Speaker 2: commis there at p King. I thought we were supposed
Speaker 2: to say Beijing these days. Maybe they kept the name
Speaker 2: for the university. That's a good question.
Speaker 3: The study linked various sleep problems to one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy two different diseases across virtually every system in the
Speaker 3: human body. Some diseases showed dramatic associations. For example, people
Speaker 3: with the most disrupted sleep rhythms face more than triple
Speaker 3: the risk of age related physical debility. I don't really
Speaker 3: doubt that. Well, yeah, but triple, But I don't doubt that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Your previous sentence about Parkinson's caught my ear, partly
Speaker 2: because both my mom and my grandfather died of complications
Speaker 2: from Parkinson's. But so little is known about what causes Parkinson's.
Speaker 2: I mean, could there be some correlation without causation, or
Speaker 2: or half and half. That's that's utterly unclear to me.
Speaker 3: But my guess would be that whoever wrote this article
Speaker 3: took the numbers and presented it as if its causation went.
Speaker 3: It could just be those two things to go together
Speaker 3: for unknown reasons.
Speaker 2: But I want to get back this because I thought
Speaker 2: it was funny. Well, it could be you've got a
Speaker 2: gene mutation that causes poor sleep rhythms and parkinson for instance,
Speaker 2: Parkinson's for instance.
Speaker 3: Sure, so people with the bad sleep triple the risk
Speaker 3: of age related physical debility. Also, you doubled the risk
Speaker 3: of gangreen compared to those with the robust sleep patterns.
Speaker 3: Yeah again, don't I eliminate the any chance of gangreen
Speaker 3: by getting a tennis.
Speaker 2: Shot ruin my beach vacation. It's it's hurt my golf game.
Speaker 2: The gang green. It's terrible.
Speaker 3: How many people have you ever known gotten gangreen? Unless
Speaker 3: you're one hundred and eighty years old.
Speaker 2: My dating life has been poorer for it. Listen, you're
Speaker 2: a great guy, but you're gangren. Oh. I saw you.
Speaker 3: I saw your hinge profile and you mentioned the gangreen
Speaker 3: right up toward the top. So it shouldn't have been
Speaker 3: a surprise anyone.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: So this sentence, this is the one you're having trouble with.
Speaker 3: And researchers estimated that up to thirty seven percent of
Speaker 3: parkins Parkinson's disease risk.
Speaker 2: I'm exactly shut that. That means nothing. Sorry.
Speaker 3: I hate to be a kill joy, killing anything for me.
Speaker 3: I didn't write this study.
Speaker 2: I have no investment in this brought it to us.
Speaker 2: We need a meeting, A long meeting, okay, a lot
Speaker 2: of questions, long meeting, prolonging questions. I would not.
Speaker 3: Be surprised if a lot of the problems we have
Speaker 3: though in the modern world is people not getting.
Speaker 2: Decent sleep. Uh. Yeah, yeah, And I've become re re
Speaker 2: re re re re reconvinced about the omnipresence of screens
Speaker 2: and smartphones being a reason for people's mental problems recently. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard it presented in a religious context by a
Speaker 2: man of the cloth who was repeating what I think
Speaker 2: man is known for thousands of years. But well, I'll
Speaker 2: just say what he said. Leave time in your life
Speaker 2: for God, Leave time in your life for prayer and
Speaker 2: meditation and contemplation. Put down your damn screen. You know.
Speaker 3: I didn't even do this on purpose. It has just
Speaker 3: kind of happened for a variety of reasons. But I've
Speaker 3: been on this kick all summer long. Of at sunset,
Speaker 3: I schedule my evening around this. At sunset, I ride
Speaker 3: my bike to the edge of town. It's about two
Speaker 3: and a half miles, and then I'm looking at a
Speaker 3: wheat field. I'm from Kansas, so I like seeing the
Speaker 3: sunset over wheatfields.
Speaker 2: So I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this wheatfield with the sunset, and I
Speaker 3: do this combination of prayer and affirmation and just kind
Speaker 3: of talking to myself or whatever. I don't bring my
Speaker 3: voe in and I do it every night, and it
Speaker 3: has become like my favorite part of the day. Like
Speaker 3: I just said, oh boy, I gotta get this done
Speaker 3: because the sunset's coming, because it's just there's clearly some
Speaker 3: like nourishment I'm getting from that that I look forward
Speaker 3: to it, and I really go out of my way
Speaker 3: to make sure I've arranged so that I.
Speaker 2: Can do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it's just organically making me want to
Speaker 3: do it every night. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a similar ritual. I drink myself incoherent and
Speaker 2: fall asleep muttering angrily about the people who wronged me
Speaker 2: with Fox on really loud some nights. Yes you do you, man,
Speaker 2: you do you.
Speaker 3: I've actually been lately thinking how am I going to
Speaker 3: keep this going when the days are shorter and the
Speaker 3: sun setting at five point thirty and dinner and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, or's raine.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm going to miss it.
Speaker 3: I got to come up with a substitute for when
Speaker 3: the beautiful weather is over because it has become super
Speaker 3: important to me.
Speaker 2: It's not as good idiotape it and watch it on
Speaker 2: your screen carried around on my phone, but don't like
Speaker 2: say wow, that was really good. That was really soothing.
Speaker 2: Now that I have my screen open, though, let's do
Speaker 2: a little dune scroll like no, no right.
Speaker 5: Jack Armstrong and Joe The.
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Speaker 3: We were wondering if, like, if you used the therapist
Speaker 3: Harry on chat GPT, if it's different than just generally
Speaker 3: asking questions the way the rest of us have been doing.
Speaker 2: What did you find out, Katie, Yeah, it's significantly different.
Speaker 7: So for example, I just used like one of the
Speaker 7: medications from my IVF process, and chat GPT regular kind
Speaker 7: of sympathized with that it might make me not feel good,
Speaker 7: but then gave me a list of resources and things
Speaker 7: I can do to feel better.
Speaker 2: In all this, Yeah, I was totally unawarees Katie pointed
Speaker 2: out this segment that they have like individual bots with
Speaker 2: specialized programming for different topics, including the number one being astrology,
Speaker 2: so there's no hope for humanity. But number two was
Speaker 2: find my celebrity look alike, and so I did that.
Speaker 2: I uploaded a photo and it struggled for a while.
Speaker 2: I could tell it was thinking, Chase. If somebody looked
Speaker 2: like you, they wouldn't be a celebrity. That's what do
Speaker 2: we tell This guy did give anyway? Did he give
Speaker 2: you Barney Rubble? Looking? No, as a younger man, I
Speaker 2: did resemble the great Barney Rubble a great deal. Looking
Speaker 2: closely at your features, strong brow lines, expressive forehead, square jaw,
Speaker 2: with a salt and pepper beard, and a slightly rugged
Speaker 2: but approachable look. Was it trying to aid, Hey, it's
Speaker 2: doing pretty well so far. If it is, you have
Speaker 2: a resemblance to Nick Nolty in his later years Hollywood
Speaker 2: and sleeping on park benches.
Speaker 3: No, no, Buddy Holly, Nick Nolty, not now, Nick Nolty.
Speaker 2: Oh no, unfortunately not, And also a bit of Kurt
Speaker 2: Russell in his more recent roles Again Wenignalty. Resemblance comes
Speaker 2: through in the weathered, expressive foreheadlines and the way your
Speaker 2: beard frames your face, especially like Nolty around the two thousands.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, they cite Kurt Russell and the hate late Yes,
Speaker 2: if only.
Speaker 3: The fact that the number one use for AI for
Speaker 3: Dunderpates is astrology. It's amazing that you're combining like the
Speaker 3: most cutting edge advanced thing human beings have ever come
Speaker 3: up with with the most old timey, dumbest from one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand years ago, reading the stars for your acuture.
Speaker 2: Well more importantly, I need Katie to react with complete
Speaker 2: honesty to this. Your look has that mix of ruggedness
Speaker 2: and warmth that both of those actors are known for
Speaker 2: in their later careers. I think you'd probably agree, wouldn't
Speaker 2: you nailed that?
Speaker 3: Why is that thing giving you all positive feedback? And
Speaker 3: there's no you look sort of like a hobo I
Speaker 3: saw on the way to work.
Speaker 2: Or just are you all right? Do you have medical
Speaker 2: professionals you can call?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how long did doctor tell you you had?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5: One?
Speaker 2: One final AI note, Katie mentioned this headline Jeffrey Hinton,
Speaker 2: often called the godfather of AI. He's calling on researchers
Speaker 2: to design systems that will take care of us like
Speaker 2: we're babies, and we all reacted like, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I need that, but thanks very much. But I read
Speaker 2: what Hinton's reasoning is that's the only way to keep
Speaker 2: them from becoming like our overlords who shred us and
Speaker 2: take our organs for whatever purpose. He's like, we need
Speaker 2: to make machines that are smarter than us to care
Speaker 2: for us like we're there, babies, baby. We need to
Speaker 2: imbue them with genuine concern for human well being, otherwise
Speaker 2: it could be really Yeah, So we need to convince
Speaker 2: AI to care about us, so they don't, you know,
Speaker 2: eat us.
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Speaker 8: Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
Speaker 8: We have no voters left because of all of our
Speaker 8: woke trans bullet Not even black people want to vote
Speaker 8: for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need
Speaker 8: new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens
Speaker 8: free healthcare, we might be able to get them on
Speaker 8: our side so they can vote for us.
Speaker 2: That is not actually Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3: That is an AI voice of the Democratic leader of
Speaker 3: the Senate. And that was not actually Donald Trump in
Speaker 3: a sombrero behind him playing the trumpet.
Speaker 2: I was gonna praise Schumer for his candor.
Speaker 3: Kim Jeffries was not actually wearing a sombrero with a
Speaker 3: big giant black mustache. Also, JD Vance did not actually
Speaker 3: say this.
Speaker 7: Okay, as was Mucco, simply a Democrat party is mucho ritardo.
Speaker 2: Okay, mucho retardo.
Speaker 7: Especially at Hakimo Jeffries eel chuck O Schumer, they are
Speaker 7: extra ritardo. So l presidente and I cannot negotiate with
Speaker 7: these Democrat ritardos.
Speaker 2: O no no, no, no, no, no no no. I
Speaker 2: don't like that term. Start Otherwise, that was very funny.
Speaker 3: We started earlier in the week with that, just Schumer
Speaker 3: saying this about the Democrats and then there's kind of
Speaker 3: the subtle ish sombrero and mustache, and it's grown since
Speaker 3: then and do this all subtenly has been lost and
Speaker 3: it's just completely out of control.
Speaker 2: Well, and I love that that reporter before. Is it
Speaker 2: helpful to post sombrero pictures when you're attempting to negotiation?
Speaker 3: Come on, So here's howkeing. Jeffrey is a leader of
Speaker 3: the Democrats in the House. He just reacting to the videos.
Speaker 9: It's a disgusting video. And we're going to continue to
Speaker 9: make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting
Speaker 9: to protect the healthcare of the American people in the
Speaker 9: face of an unprecedented Republican assault on all the.
Speaker 3: Things medicare the disgusting deal.
Speaker 2: And here here's the reporter thing. Joe was mentioning, the president's.
Speaker 10: Been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Sanator Schumer. Ultately,
Speaker 10: you've said that you're interested in good faith negotiations with
Speaker 10: these leaders. But you know what message is that's and
Speaker 10: is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries and
Speaker 10: sombrero if you're trying to talk to you?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think they go, but yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: it shows. It shows that we're the party that's got
Speaker 2: a sense of humor, Wow, angry all the time mustache?
Speaker 3: Is it helpful to post pictures of mister Jeffries and
Speaker 3: a somburro and giant black mustache? Well, a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of Trumps. There's only one Trump. All five different Trumps
Speaker 3: play trumpets and giant guitars.
Speaker 2: Implying some might say that there are multiple Trumps who
Speaker 2: should run for a third term.
Speaker 3: If there were multiple Trumps, they'd be in a mariachi band.
Speaker 3: Is that helpful?
Speaker 2: Oh my golly, no, this is this is it's almost
Speaker 2: kind of fun to watch, not the really silly part
Speaker 2: of it, but the effort Hakeem jeffries to try to
Speaker 2: get his civil rights movement. I'm outraged, we're all fighting together,
Speaker 2: voice going and he runs it off the flagpole and
Speaker 2: absolutely no one salutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say it again. I've said it multiple times.
Speaker 3: But the fact that the Washington Post editorial board, the
Speaker 3: people that run the Washington Post, said the Democrats walked
Speaker 3: into a trap on this one and that they shouldn't
Speaker 3: have shut down the government. They should have cobbled together
Speaker 3: to votes to go with this. So I heard it explain.
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty good explanation. These shutdowns are dumb and
Speaker 3: don't matter. And the last one lasted a month and
Speaker 3: you don't even remember it happened, all right, so quit.
Speaker 2: Acting like it's a big deal.
Speaker 3: But several times this happened last couple of times with Republicans,
Speaker 3: where like the Tea Party did this like we're going
Speaker 3: to show how hard we're going to fight, and I
Speaker 3: was on board with the fighting and everything like that,
Speaker 3: but you just don't have the leverage of the votes
Speaker 3: to actually make anything happen. And Ted Cruz did it
Speaker 3: around Obamacare. He did the law the really long what
Speaker 3: do you call it? A filibuster? And then they also
Speaker 3: wouldn't go along because they needed his vote to avoid
Speaker 3: a shut down, and he had no leverage to actually
Speaker 3: get anything accomplished. And that's what the the woke progressive
Speaker 3: end of Democrats are doing. Now, we're gonna force a shutdown.
Speaker 3: Show much we fight, but we don't actually have the
Speaker 3: leverage to do anything. And so this has happened a
Speaker 3: couple of times, and again nobody nobody, nobody dies, Nobody
Speaker 3: even notices it happens. It disappears into the history books. Man,
Speaker 3: if you ever read that history book, you are bored
Speaker 3: to death. But speaking of jokes, here's an ai or No,
Speaker 3: this is a comedian. This is not Ai. This is
Speaker 3: a comedian who does a good Trump voice.
Speaker 11: Ola mei fellow Americana. Ce biendnitos alcierre de Schumer. That
Speaker 11: means welcome to the Schumer shut down. We call it
Speaker 11: the Schumer siesta, right, mister Schumer siesta. He put the
Speaker 11: government on CIEs, the crying chuck and el jakimo, hefe Jeffries.
Speaker 11: We used to call him Dallas st or Obama until
Speaker 11: we realize he's worth far less than a dollar. But
Speaker 11: they put the government on siesta to give illegal alien
Speaker 11: ends your healthcare. We're not gonna let it happen. I
Speaker 11: looked at both of them. I said, we're not going
Speaker 11: to let it happen. As snowboy, now, I said a snowboy.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: They begged me.
Speaker 11: They said, but signor or for more, please give Ille
Speaker 11: de Lilias deathcare. So we're not going to do it.
Speaker 11: We're never going to do it. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 11: We're going to end the CES. So we're going to
Speaker 11: reopen the government and we will not give into the demands.
Speaker 2: Of Chuck and l Hefe.
Speaker 11: We're not going to do that. Thank you, God bless you,
Speaker 11: Diolo Bendiga, and God bless America. Thank you for your
Speaker 11: attention to this matter.
Speaker 3: That last part was probably funny, but I don't speak
Speaker 3: enough Spanish to know what he said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed that one too.
Speaker 3: Uh the uh, but please, Senor, it's pretty funny. The
Speaker 3: funny thing is that that's only like one tick off
Speaker 3: actual Trump. Yes, I mean it's just barely even comedy, uh,
Speaker 3: as opposed to did the President actually sing what he
Speaker 3: was saying? And so Trump said, I got it home
Speaker 3: where I grabbed it somewhere I lost it. Trump said
Speaker 3: something funny, but I can't remember what it was about
Speaker 3: the Democrats handing in this the he can't believe that
Speaker 3: they same thing the Washington Post editorial board basically said
Speaker 3: is he can't believe that the Democrats are allowing him
Speaker 3: to do this and run all the leverage.
Speaker 2: Well, and Trump's boy Russell vote. The budget chief is
Speaker 2: taking advantage of it to try to shrink the government
Speaker 2: as fast as he possibly can. Whether it holds up
Speaker 2: or not, nobody's quite sure. But it's exactly what Trump
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk and company and a lot of conservatives
Speaker 2: have been wanting to happen.
Speaker 3: So let it continue. That's fine, I saw. So there
Speaker 3: was some thing in the New York Times yesterday. I
Speaker 3: got the bulletin during the day, you're nervous. Our experts
Speaker 3: are here to answer your questions about the shutdown, I thought,
Speaker 3: And I'm not nervous. I don't have any questions. I'm
Speaker 3: perfectly fine. It'll end, like I keep saying, this afternoon
Speaker 3: or Friday night or next Tuesday, and nobody will ever
Speaker 3: think about it ever again.
Speaker 2: So that was to their sizeable percentage of their listenership
Speaker 2: that still wears covid masks alone outdoors. Right, Well, those
Speaker 2: people are scared. They wake up scared. It makes them
Speaker 2: feel important. Wow, I hadn't seen this.
Speaker 3: Israel struck overnight in the Gaza Strip, killed at least
Speaker 3: thirteen Palestinians according to whoever, according to hospitals. Of course,
Speaker 3: a lot of hospitals are just Hamas holdouts and they
Speaker 3: call them a hospital. But anyway, Israel's continuing to blast
Speaker 3: that area Gaza while Hamas is waiting to decide thumbs
Speaker 3: up or thumbs down on the peace proposal, which the
Speaker 3: deadline is this weekend.
Speaker 2: It's Thursday now, running out of time. Yeah, well, maybe
Speaker 2: they ought to take a hard look at it and
Speaker 2: figure it out quick. What do you think is going
Speaker 2: to happen? I still think there are only two choices.
Speaker 2: One Hamas says, all right, we'll go along with it,
Speaker 2: and pretends to go along with it and seks to
Speaker 2: do what they've always thought to do as hard as
Speaker 2: they can. Secondly, they just reject it and say we'll
Speaker 2: fight to the deaths because they've vowed martyred them over
Speaker 2: and over again.
Speaker 3: So the critics are saying, like I saw this, Peter
Speaker 3: Baker of the New York Times that this was basically,
Speaker 3: you know, and all or nothing for Hamas proposal from
Speaker 3: the Yeah, you see, one side is winning the war,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna win the war.
Speaker 2: No matter what.
Speaker 3: So they offered to the people that they're about to
Speaker 3: completely decimate, here's a way out if you want it.
Speaker 3: If you don't, we're just gonna continue to do what
Speaker 3: we're doing. That's the way most wars end. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: what like all of them? Yeah, so they can decide
Speaker 3: to do it, Joe said, And you know, they're they're
Speaker 3: uh dead enders. So they might say, you know, we're
Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and fight to the death because they
Speaker 3: don't care if they take all the Palestinians with them,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter to them.
Speaker 2: In fact, they think that would be great. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: In fact, they're gonna fight as long as they can
Speaker 2: and have as many civilians die as possible to hope
Speaker 2: that the world opinion turns against Israel, because it already
Speaker 2: has to some extent. So yeah, that's probably the most
Speaker 2: likely scenario. But the idea that you know, the Peter
Speaker 2: Baker's of the world, and he's a bright enough guy,
Speaker 2: but my god, you're holding Israel to a standard that
Speaker 2: has never existed in warfare in the history of the world.
Speaker 2: You've just invented this special new one for Israel.
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Showy or Jack or Joe Podcasts
Speaker 1: and Our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 5: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty Show from the Department of Why
Speaker 3: does nobody recognize we're driving toward a cliff at one
Speaker 3: hundred miles per hour?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Alicia Finley of The Wall Street Journal pointing out
Speaker 2: that America's buy now, pay later economy is showing signs
Speaker 2: of an emerging debt crisis everywhere.
Speaker 3: I don't like this story. I'm not doing that. I'm
Speaker 3: a I don't buy it until like an afford it
Speaker 3: sort of guy. But we all get brought down by
Speaker 3: a financial collapse.
Speaker 2: We all realize that, right right, The word inclusive is
Speaker 2: very hot these days. There certainly was a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. That's the brilliant thing about a financial crash.
Speaker 2: It includes virtually everybody. Yeah, misery. So anyway, so she
Speaker 2: points out that serious credit card and auto loan delinquencies
Speaker 2: have climbed to the level of the twenty eighth nine recession.
Speaker 3: Okay, so rousing right after that giant crashes. Not surprising
Speaker 3: that lots of people all of a sudden were in
Speaker 3: trouble and not quite making their payments on time and
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: What is the reason now? Nobody's sure we like spending money,
Speaker 2: she says. The housing market shows cracks. Well, the labor
Speaker 2: market is weakening, but you wouldn't know it from the
Speaker 2: point stock market and consumer spending. America is buy now,
Speaker 2: pay later economy, and at least increasingly fueled by leverage.
Speaker 2: As consumers, investors, businesses, and the govern are all taking
Speaker 2: on more debt, which she points out, and there's always
Speaker 2: one person like this at the party, she points out,
Speaker 2: you have to pay for debt later with interest. Thank
Speaker 2: you for that. What a drag man. As Americans max
Speaker 2: out their credit cards after years of inflation, by now,
Speaker 2: pay later offers are popping up everywhere, from concert tickets
Speaker 2: to vacations to grocery stores. Boy, oh, boil boil boy.
Speaker 3: I can see how it would be appealing if I'm
Speaker 3: twenty one year old Jack and they'll never tour again
Speaker 3: or whatever it's their farewell tour man to not buy
Speaker 3: your concert tickets on I can't afford it now, but
Speaker 3: I'll magically have more money six months from now.
Speaker 2: No, don't do that, I guess. There are now apps
Speaker 2: where you can split the cost of your purchases into
Speaker 2: installment payments over weeks or months. Some are currently interest
Speaker 2: free for now, just to include fees. Here's what you do.
Speaker 2: You borrow a against your used car.
Speaker 3: Is that still a thing that people are doing, where
Speaker 3: you take out equity from your used car?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And unlike credit cards, a lot of these
Speaker 2: services don't report the loans to the credit bureaus, so
Speaker 2: folks are in much more debt than their credit rating
Speaker 2: might indicate.
Speaker 3: But so these all these different entities that are giving
Speaker 3: people these deals must feel like they're going to get
Speaker 3: paid back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, certainly in the short term. And they
Speaker 2: have carefully calculated their default rates and you know, price
Speaker 2: their services excuse me accordingly. And you know, if somebody
Speaker 2: ends up not being able to pay, they just put
Speaker 2: them their name on the blacklist.
Speaker 3: And boy, my oldest son has got a life lesson
Speaker 3: coming on. I don't even remember what it was now,
Speaker 3: it's been so long, and something he really really wanted
Speaker 3: and kind of fronted him the monk kind of fronted
Speaker 3: him the money on that with the idea that you
Speaker 3: will owe me and I will be keeping track of it,
Speaker 3: and I have been keeping and he still owes me.
Speaker 3: And Christmas might just be here. I've wiped off hot
Speaker 3: half your debt. Merry Christmas. That would be a lesson
Speaker 3: how that old thing works. That would be a great
Speaker 3: gift in a way. Yeah, sure, not to be appreciated
Speaker 3: at the time. According to recent survey, about half of
Speaker 3: consumers have used a buy now, pay later service.
Speaker 2: This is not a niche, this is half I've reskewed
Speaker 2: towards the young.
Speaker 3: Concert tickets, your vacation, I mean everybody kind of does
Speaker 3: that a vacation, right, because you put everything on your
Speaker 3: credit card, whether you pay it off that month or
Speaker 3: over a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Good point. Yeah, let's see Federal Reserve pay per last
Speaker 2: December found such users are more likely to have low
Speaker 2: credit scores, carry of balance on credit cards, have incurred
Speaker 2: checking overdraft fees, and have more delinquent credit accounts. Financially
Speaker 2: vulnerable consumers maybe over extending themselves. And let's see. One
Speaker 2: of the bigger buy now, pay later services announced an IPO,
Speaker 2: which is expected to be one of the biggest of
Speaker 2: the year. Such services make money by capitalizing on financially
Speaker 2: stretched consumers, especially young people who don't want to tighten
Speaker 2: their belts. Wow.
Speaker 3: According to the Babylon b As we told you, the
Speaker 3: Social Security Administration is going to be renamed the Charles
Speaker 3: Ponzi Memorial Retirement Plan, which I like.
Speaker 2: That is great.
Speaker 3: The Department of Justice will be changed to the Department
Speaker 3: of Revenge and all losers and haters.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's appropriate.
Speaker 3: And yet somewhat accurate in these days of law fair,
Speaker 3: this is the one that hurts. The Department of the
Speaker 3: Treasury will be changed to the Chinese Loan Office.
Speaker 2: Ooh, one more that I liked.
Speaker 3: Sing in Urban Development will retitle his Department of the Pores.
Speaker 2: The Pores. Wow.
Speaker 3: By the way, we got a text from somebody who
Speaker 3: said they always appreciate when I do my porky pig
Speaker 3: routine not being able to.
Speaker 2: Pronounce a word. I got another statistic for you. That's
Speaker 2: enough fun. Back to the misery. So in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: mortgage you know, holders had debt to income ratio is
Speaker 2: considered risky. Right, twenty eight percent of people had a
Speaker 2: debt to income ratio that was pretty risky twenty eight
Speaker 2: percent last year sixty nine percent. Oh my god. Seven
Speaker 2: man Freddy mckew was thirty eight percent, up from sixteen
Speaker 2: percent in twenty twelve. Seven out of ten.
Speaker 3: Of yea, yeah, I don't think I do have a
Speaker 3: risky debt to.
Speaker 2: Income ratio. And if I haven't driven you to buy
Speaker 2: gold and bury it in your backyards yet, how much?
Speaker 2: How about one more? The FAHA Federal Housing Association, we
Speaker 2: have a fancy new name for them, from the Babylon
Speaker 2: Bay too bad. They've waived or reduced monthly payments on
Speaker 2: one point two million mortgages over the past two years.
Speaker 2: It's about fifteen percent of the total that they hold,
Speaker 2: and without that forgiveness passed during the Biden administration, delinquencies
Speaker 2: would be near the level of the twenty eight to
Speaker 2: nine meltdown. Fanny and Freddy have also been slashing in
Speaker 2: deferring payments on hundreds of thousands of mortgages. So I
Speaker 2: go into my son's room last night to talk to him,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 3: One of the grooviest high schooler bedrooms I've ever seen
Speaker 3: in my life. He's put a lot of effort into it,
Speaker 3: and it's very cool and dark. It's always very dark
Speaker 3: in there. But anyway, I go into my high schooler's
Speaker 3: room last night and did not smell pleasant.
Speaker 2: I said, what is the deal in here? On a
Speaker 2: rest of sex?
Speaker 3: And he must have taken that to heart, because now
Speaker 3: the higher house smells like high school boy cologne. And
Speaker 3: I said, what did you do? And he said, we
Speaker 3: used to sit at smell bed. So I sprayed around
Speaker 3: some of my cologne. I thought that would help some
Speaker 3: of your colone. Oh, it smells like you're on a
Speaker 3: date with four high school sophomore boys right now in
Speaker 3: my house.
Speaker 2: Wow, way too much, way too much. I ortant to
Speaker 2: ascertain the source of the funk.
Speaker 3: First, it's not funny, I don't I don't know what
Speaker 3: it is about the scent, but it just it smells
Speaker 3: like if you had to name the smell, you'd say,
Speaker 3: I'm on a date with a boy who's about old
Speaker 3: enough to get his driver's license. That's what it smells like.
Speaker 3: Its own scent. You wow, acts bedroom spray.
Speaker 2: Or something like that. Yikes. Among the story. I hope
Speaker 2: you bought it for cash and didn't borrow them one
Speaker 2: here you know, break up the picture. It's the arm
Speaker 2: Strong in Getty Show, Armstrong in Getty, get Getty
Speaker 5: So Art, Trap and Getty