1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe. 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: Getty, Armstrong and Getty and Key Armstrong and Getty Strong and. 4 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: Not live from Studio C Armstrong and Getty. We're off, 5 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: We're taking a break. 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Come on enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and Getty replay. 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: And as long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: catch up on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: demand or one more thing we think you'll enjoy it. 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 4: Sir, you probably heard that you're supposed to get like 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: ten thousand steps a day, but according to new research, 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: just seven thousand steps a day could be. 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Enough to improve your health. Do you I hear six? 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: It really sounds like scientists have lowered their X expectations 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: for us. Explains why the new Surgeon General warning on 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 4: cigarettes as do not smoke during pregnancy unless it's your 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: second kid. 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Then what else? 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the jokes, but the problem is the 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: original ten thousand step thing was completely made up. The 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: problem with a lot of health stats, and we're about 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: to get into some here, is they're misinterpreted regularly. Oftentimes 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: they're very very small, preliminary studies that the researchers themselves 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: would never put out there as a national story to 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: talk about. But it's something exciting about something that can 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: cause cancer or eliminate cancer or whatever, and so the 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: media goes crazy with it. And then there's studies that 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: are paid for by like, you know, mattress companies or 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: candy bars or whatever, and lo and behold the study 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: says eating more chocolate leads to better sex life or whatever. 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: You know, So sure you gotta watch out for that. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Before we get to that stuff of things real quick, 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: first of all, can we make a vow? We need 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: to make a vow. I don't think we can keep it, 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: but we should try. We should make a vow every 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: day and work toward this goal to stop talking about 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: cable news as if anybody's watching it. 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: Because nobody is. So that's so fine with me. 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Yea, I agree. But anytime you talk about Jake Tapper 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: said this or whatever. 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: It might be interesting for some reason, but nobody is 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: watching that show. Nobody. 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking at this stats that Byron York 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: just put out from Fox. It's more likely you're watching 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: a Fox show. Certainly, but uh, CNN's total audience during 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: their five. 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and eleven PM hours. You're 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: cherry picking. 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Added together don't beat one showing of the five, which 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: is not even one of Fox's highly rated shows. Oh 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: so talking about anything on CNN or MSNBC really is you? 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: Who are you talking to? Boy? It is the ultimate 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: example of something holding on to just any reputation based 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: entirely on its gloried pass. 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: And my people who are old enough to remember when 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: it mattered. If you're younger, you don't even know what 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: it is. Right, Well, it's in airports. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Inexplicably, we got this CNN have a picture of the 59 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: head of the FAA with a mule or something. I mean, 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: how is CNN on an airport's all over America? That 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: is almost that is almost certainly the explanation. Well there 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: you go. 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: Anyway, moving along, we got this text about that horrible 64 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: story in New York, the shooting. I just wanted to 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: deal with it real quick in case I did use 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: sloppy language. You're putting out fake news again. The shooter 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: in New York never played in the NFL. I didn't 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: mean to imply that he did. I thought I said 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: he was a high school star and that's where his. 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Current You never stated anything that could be taken to 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: indicate that he played in the NFL. Well, I guess 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: you made reference to other Okay, yeah, whatever, that's fine, Okay, fine, 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: he didn't play in the NFL, but he does see 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: some budsman weighing in there. 75 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: He did seem to be blaming that brain mouth function 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: that you can get from playing football, though, as he 77 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: had a note about that and shot himself in the 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: chest and wants his brain to be studied, which doesn't 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: make him some sort of anybody to look up to 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: because he killed a bunch of innocent people like a scumbag. Right, 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: if you didn't get enough sleep last night, you've doubled 82 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: your chance at Gang Green. 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: I hope you're happy. Oh no, not another bout of 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: gang Creen. Another bout. 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: It ruined my summer vacation. Oh wow, it certainly ruined 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: my beach. Look my beach body. 87 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: Getting too big studies. 88 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: This is pretty damned interesting and a bit of a breakthrough. 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: I think we've been talking about sleep stuff a lot. 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: Everybody that I know deals with sleep issues or if 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: you're getting a enough sleep. They found a way pretty 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: simple with having instead of self reporting about sleep, which 93 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: is all you had to really go on up until 94 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: fairly recently. Now you can have everybody wear these little 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: devices that report on how much sleep you're actually getting. 96 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: And there are way too many fake long sleepers in 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: all studies we've ever heard. They actually that's what they 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: actually call them, fake long sleepers in studies we've heard 99 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: about through our whole lives. It's people maybe like me, 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: who report a certain number of hours asleep but actually 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: get much less. If you actually wear a device that 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: measures how much you're sleeping, just because you're in bed 103 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: and semi unconscious, that amount of time doesn't mean you're 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: actually sleep sleeping. And so they had people wear these 105 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: devices trying to track how much like actually you were 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: asleep sleep you got. The numbers are a lot lower, 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: And so those other numbers skewed everything we've ever had 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: about sleep because you got a whole bunch of people 109 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: in there claiming they sleep eight hours a night and 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: they're actually sleep in six. 111 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: Is anybody struck anybody else struck by the hilarious irony 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: of self reporting sleeping habits? I mean, if there's one 113 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: one period of my life I can't really account for. 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: It's when I'm asleep. True. 115 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: It's the largest study of its kind ever. Researchers strapped 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: fitness trackers on nearly ninety thousand adults for a week, 117 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: followed their health for almost seven years. Among people who 118 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: claimed to sleep more than eight hours a night late 119 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: nearly a twenty two percent, so a fifth we're actually 120 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: getting six or less. That's a big chunk of people 121 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: who thought they were getting eight hours of sleep and 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: they're getting six or less. 123 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: That's that's enormous. Yes, statistically, that's like, why are you 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: even talking about the previous numbers? 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: They're ridiculous, right, But let me jump to the headlines 126 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: from it, other than the headline that everything you've ever 127 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: heard about sleep studies is fake because of what do 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: they call them? Lying bash that's not what they called 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 3: them fake long sleepers. My bastards would be too harsh, 130 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: that'd be appropriate. Uh, sleep rhythm matters more than sleep duration. 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Inconsistent or weak. Daily sleep rhythms were linked to eighty 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: three diseases and then they list them and we could 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: get into that later with the sleep rhythm ing when 134 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: you're going in and out of RAM like happens. 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: If you've ever learned anything about. 136 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: Sleep disease burden is comparable to smoking or obesity. Up 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's These numbers can't be true, 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: can they? Up to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's and 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: thirty six percent of type two diabetes could be attributed 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: to disrupted sleep patterns. 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: That's a lot that. That's an extraordinary claim. I am, 142 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: I got my fur up p too. I'm very free. Wow. 143 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: What's what's our source here? What's our publication? Is this? 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: It's a dirty Chinese research led by doctor Quinn Chen 145 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: Army Medical University and Cheng Wang Peck Peak University. Okay, 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: are you concerned that the Chinese are trying to infiltrate 147 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: our sleep device? 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm highly skeptical about all of this. The idea 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: that bad sleep rhythms are more serious a problem than 150 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: we understand that, that's perfectly reasonable. But a bunch of 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: commis there at p King. I thought we were supposed 152 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: to say Beijing these days. Maybe they kept the name 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: for the university. That's a good question. 154 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: The study linked various sleep problems to one hundred and 155 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: seventy two different diseases across virtually every system in the 156 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: human body. Some diseases showed dramatic associations. For example, people 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: with the most disrupted sleep rhythms face more than triple 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: the risk of age related physical debility. I don't really 159 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: doubt that. Well, yeah, but triple, But I don't doubt that. 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Your previous sentence about Parkinson's caught my ear, partly 161 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: because both my mom and my grandfather died of complications 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: from Parkinson's. But so little is known about what causes Parkinson's. 163 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, could there be some correlation without causation, or 164 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: or half and half. That's that's utterly unclear to me. 165 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: But my guess would be that whoever wrote this article 166 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: took the numbers and presented it as if its causation went. 167 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: It could just be those two things to go together 168 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: for unknown reasons. 169 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: But I want to get back this because I thought 170 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: it was funny. Well, it could be you've got a 171 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: gene mutation that causes poor sleep rhythms and parkinson for instance, 172 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: Parkinson's for instance. 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: Sure, so people with the bad sleep triple the risk 174 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: of age related physical debility. Also, you doubled the risk 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: of gangreen compared to those with the robust sleep patterns. 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah again, don't I eliminate the any chance of gangreen 177 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: by getting a tennis. 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: Shot ruin my beach vacation. It's it's hurt my golf game. 179 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: The gang green. It's terrible. 180 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: How many people have you ever known gotten gangreen? Unless 181 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: you're one hundred and eighty years old. 182 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: My dating life has been poorer for it. Listen, you're 183 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: a great guy, but you're gangren. Oh. I saw you. 184 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: I saw your hinge profile and you mentioned the gangreen 185 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: right up toward the top. So it shouldn't have been 186 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: a surprise anyone. 187 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 188 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: So this sentence, this is the one you're having trouble with. 189 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: And researchers estimated that up to thirty seven percent of 190 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: parkins Parkinson's disease risk. 191 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm exactly shut that. That means nothing. Sorry. 192 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: I hate to be a kill joy, killing anything for me. 193 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: I didn't write this study. 194 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: I have no investment in this brought it to us. 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: We need a meeting, A long meeting, okay, a lot 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: of questions, long meeting, prolonging questions. I would not. 197 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: Be surprised if a lot of the problems we have 198 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: though in the modern world is people not getting. 199 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: Decent sleep. Uh. Yeah, yeah, And I've become re re 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: re re re re reconvinced about the omnipresence of screens 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: and smartphones being a reason for people's mental problems recently. Yeah, 202 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: I heard it presented in a religious context by a 203 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: man of the cloth who was repeating what I think 204 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: man is known for thousands of years. But well, I'll 205 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: just say what he said. Leave time in your life 206 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: for God, Leave time in your life for prayer and 207 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: meditation and contemplation. Put down your damn screen. You know. 208 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: I didn't even do this on purpose. It has just 209 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: kind of happened for a variety of reasons. But I've 210 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: been on this kick all summer long. Of at sunset, 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: I schedule my evening around this. At sunset, I ride 212 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: my bike to the edge of town. It's about two 213 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: and a half miles, and then I'm looking at a 214 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: wheat field. I'm from Kansas, so I like seeing the 215 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: sunset over wheatfields. 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: So I'm there. 217 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm looking at this wheatfield with the sunset, and I 218 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: do this combination of prayer and affirmation and just kind 219 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: of talking to myself or whatever. I don't bring my 220 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: voe in and I do it every night, and it 221 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: has become like my favorite part of the day. Like 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: I just said, oh boy, I gotta get this done 223 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: because the sunset's coming, because it's just there's clearly some 224 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: like nourishment I'm getting from that that I look forward 225 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: to it, and I really go out of my way 226 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: to make sure I've arranged so that I. 227 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Can do it. Yeah. 228 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it's just organically making me want to 229 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: do it every night. Yeah. 230 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: I have a similar ritual. I drink myself incoherent and 231 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: fall asleep muttering angrily about the people who wronged me 232 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: with Fox on really loud some nights. Yes you do you, man, 233 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: you do you. 234 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: I've actually been lately thinking how am I going to 235 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: keep this going when the days are shorter and the 236 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: sun setting at five point thirty and dinner and blah 237 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: blah blah, or's raine. 238 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm going to miss it. 239 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: I got to come up with a substitute for when 240 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: the beautiful weather is over because it has become super 241 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: important to me. 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: It's not as good idiotape it and watch it on 243 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: your screen carried around on my phone, but don't like 244 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: say wow, that was really good. That was really soothing. 245 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: Now that I have my screen open, though, let's do 246 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: a little dune scroll like no, no right. 247 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: Jack Armstrong and Joe The. 248 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getty Show. 249 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: We were wondering if, like, if you used the therapist 250 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: Harry on chat GPT, if it's different than just generally 251 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: asking questions the way the rest of us have been doing. 252 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: What did you find out, Katie, Yeah, it's significantly different. 253 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 7: So for example, I just used like one of the 254 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: medications from my IVF process, and chat GPT regular kind 255 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 7: of sympathized with that it might make me not feel good, 256 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 7: but then gave me a list of resources and things 257 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 7: I can do to feel better. 258 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: In all this, Yeah, I was totally unawarees Katie pointed 259 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: out this segment that they have like individual bots with 260 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: specialized programming for different topics, including the number one being astrology, 261 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: so there's no hope for humanity. But number two was 262 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: find my celebrity look alike, and so I did that. 263 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: I uploaded a photo and it struggled for a while. 264 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: I could tell it was thinking, Chase. If somebody looked 265 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: like you, they wouldn't be a celebrity. That's what do 266 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: we tell This guy did give anyway? Did he give 267 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: you Barney Rubble? Looking? No, as a younger man, I 268 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: did resemble the great Barney Rubble a great deal. Looking 269 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: closely at your features, strong brow lines, expressive forehead, square jaw, 270 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: with a salt and pepper beard, and a slightly rugged 271 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: but approachable look. Was it trying to aid, Hey, it's 272 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: doing pretty well so far. If it is, you have 273 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: a resemblance to Nick Nolty in his later years Hollywood 274 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: and sleeping on park benches. 275 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: No, no, Buddy Holly, Nick Nolty, not now, Nick Nolty. 276 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, unfortunately not, And also a bit of Kurt 277 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: Russell in his more recent roles Again Wenignalty. Resemblance comes 278 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: through in the weathered, expressive foreheadlines and the way your 279 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: beard frames your face, especially like Nolty around the two thousands. 280 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh oh, they cite Kurt Russell and the hate late Yes, 281 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: if only. 282 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: The fact that the number one use for AI for 283 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: Dunderpates is astrology. It's amazing that you're combining like the 284 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: most cutting edge advanced thing human beings have ever come 285 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: up with with the most old timey, dumbest from one 286 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: hundred thousand years ago, reading the stars for your acuture. 287 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: Well more importantly, I need Katie to react with complete 288 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,239 Speaker 2: honesty to this. Your look has that mix of ruggedness 289 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: and warmth that both of those actors are known for 290 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: in their later careers. I think you'd probably agree, wouldn't 291 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: you nailed that? 292 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: Why is that thing giving you all positive feedback? And 293 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: there's no you look sort of like a hobo I 294 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: saw on the way to work. 295 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Or just are you all right? Do you have medical 296 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: professionals you can call? 297 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how long did doctor tell you you had? 298 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? 299 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: One? 300 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: One final AI note, Katie mentioned this headline Jeffrey Hinton, 301 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,479 Speaker 2: often called the godfather of AI. He's calling on researchers 302 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: to design systems that will take care of us like 303 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: we're babies, and we all reacted like, I'm not sure 304 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: I need that, but thanks very much. But I read 305 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: what Hinton's reasoning is that's the only way to keep 306 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: them from becoming like our overlords who shred us and 307 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: take our organs for whatever purpose. He's like, we need 308 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: to make machines that are smarter than us to care 309 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: for us like we're there, babies, baby. We need to 310 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: imbue them with genuine concern for human well being, otherwise 311 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: it could be really Yeah, So we need to convince 312 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: AI to care about us, so they don't, you know, 313 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: eat us. 314 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Wow, the Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, Borgia Orgio podcasts 315 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and our hot links the Armstrong and Getty Show. 316 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 8: Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. 317 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: Nobody likes Democrats anymore. 318 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 8: We have no voters left because of all of our 319 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 8: woke trans bullet Not even black people want to vote 320 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 8: for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need 321 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 8: new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens 322 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 8: free healthcare, we might be able to get them on 323 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 8: our side so they can vote for us. 324 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: That is not actually Chuck Schumer. 325 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: That is an AI voice of the Democratic leader of 326 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: the Senate. And that was not actually Donald Trump in 327 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: a sombrero behind him playing the trumpet. 328 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna praise Schumer for his candor. 329 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: Kim Jeffries was not actually wearing a sombrero with a 330 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: big giant black mustache. Also, JD Vance did not actually 331 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: say this. 332 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 7: Okay, as was Mucco, simply a Democrat party is mucho ritardo. 333 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Okay, mucho retardo. 334 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 7: Especially at Hakimo Jeffries eel chuck O Schumer, they are 335 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 7: extra ritardo. So l presidente and I cannot negotiate with 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 7: these Democrat ritardos. 337 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: O no no, no, no, no, no no no. I 338 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: don't like that term. Start Otherwise, that was very funny. 339 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: We started earlier in the week with that, just Schumer 340 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: saying this about the Democrats and then there's kind of 341 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: the subtle ish sombrero and mustache, and it's grown since 342 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: then and do this all subtenly has been lost and 343 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: it's just completely out of control. 344 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 2: Well, and I love that that reporter before. Is it 345 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: helpful to post sombrero pictures when you're attempting to negotiation? 346 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: Come on, So here's howkeing. Jeffrey is a leader of 347 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: the Democrats in the House. He just reacting to the videos. 348 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 9: It's a disgusting video. And we're going to continue to 349 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 9: make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting 350 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 9: to protect the healthcare of the American people in the 351 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 9: face of an unprecedented Republican assault on all the. 352 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: Things medicare the disgusting deal. 353 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: And here here's the reporter thing. Joe was mentioning, the president's. 354 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 10: Been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Sanator Schumer. Ultately, 355 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 10: you've said that you're interested in good faith negotiations with 356 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 10: these leaders. But you know what message is that's and 357 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 10: is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries and 358 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 10: sombrero if you're trying to talk to you? 359 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: Oh, I think they go, but yeah, you know what 360 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: it shows. It shows that we're the party that's got 361 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: a sense of humor, Wow, angry all the time mustache? 362 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: Is it helpful to post pictures of mister Jeffries and 363 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: a somburro and giant black mustache? Well, a whole bunch 364 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: of Trumps. There's only one Trump. All five different Trumps 365 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: play trumpets and giant guitars. 366 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Implying some might say that there are multiple Trumps who 367 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: should run for a third term. 368 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: If there were multiple Trumps, they'd be in a mariachi band. 369 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: Is that helpful? 370 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh my golly, no, this is this is it's almost 371 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: kind of fun to watch, not the really silly part 372 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: of it, but the effort Hakeem jeffries to try to 373 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: get his civil rights movement. I'm outraged, we're all fighting together, 374 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: voice going and he runs it off the flagpole and 375 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: absolutely no one salutes. 376 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say it again. I've said it multiple times. 377 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: But the fact that the Washington Post editorial board, the 378 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: people that run the Washington Post, said the Democrats walked 379 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: into a trap on this one and that they shouldn't 380 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: have shut down the government. They should have cobbled together 381 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: to votes to go with this. So I heard it explain. 382 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: It's actually pretty good explanation. These shutdowns are dumb and 383 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: don't matter. And the last one lasted a month and 384 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: you don't even remember it happened, all right, so quit. 385 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: Acting like it's a big deal. 386 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: But several times this happened last couple of times with Republicans, 387 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: where like the Tea Party did this like we're going 388 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: to show how hard we're going to fight, and I 389 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: was on board with the fighting and everything like that, 390 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: but you just don't have the leverage of the votes 391 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: to actually make anything happen. And Ted Cruz did it 392 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: around Obamacare. He did the law the really long what 393 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: do you call it? A filibuster? And then they also 394 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't go along because they needed his vote to avoid 395 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: a shut down, and he had no leverage to actually 396 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: get anything accomplished. And that's what the the woke progressive 397 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: end of Democrats are doing. Now, we're gonna force a shutdown. 398 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: Show much we fight, but we don't actually have the 399 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: leverage to do anything. And so this has happened a 400 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: couple of times, and again nobody nobody, nobody dies, Nobody 401 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: even notices it happens. It disappears into the history books. Man, 402 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: if you ever read that history book, you are bored 403 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: to death. But speaking of jokes, here's an ai or No, 404 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: this is a comedian. This is not Ai. This is 405 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: a comedian who does a good Trump voice. 406 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 11: Ola mei fellow Americana. Ce biendnitos alcierre de Schumer. That 407 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 11: means welcome to the Schumer shut down. We call it 408 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 11: the Schumer siesta, right, mister Schumer siesta. He put the 409 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 11: government on CIEs, the crying chuck and el jakimo, hefe Jeffries. 410 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 11: We used to call him Dallas st or Obama until 411 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 11: we realize he's worth far less than a dollar. But 412 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 11: they put the government on siesta to give illegal alien 413 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 11: ends your healthcare. We're not gonna let it happen. I 414 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 11: looked at both of them. I said, we're not going 415 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 11: to let it happen. As snowboy, now, I said a snowboy. 416 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: No. 417 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: They begged me. 418 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 11: They said, but signor or for more, please give Ille 419 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 11: de Lilias deathcare. So we're not going to do it. 420 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 11: We're never going to do it. It's not going to happen. 421 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 11: We're going to end the CES. So we're going to 422 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 11: reopen the government and we will not give into the demands. 423 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Of Chuck and l Hefe. 424 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 11: We're not going to do that. Thank you, God bless you, 425 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 11: Diolo Bendiga, and God bless America. Thank you for your 426 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 11: attention to this matter. 427 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: That last part was probably funny, but I don't speak 428 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: enough Spanish to know what he said. 429 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed that one too. 430 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: Uh the uh, but please, Senor, it's pretty funny. The 431 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: funny thing is that that's only like one tick off 432 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: actual Trump. Yes, I mean it's just barely even comedy, uh, 433 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: as opposed to did the President actually sing what he 434 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: was saying? And so Trump said, I got it home 435 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: where I grabbed it somewhere I lost it. Trump said 436 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: something funny, but I can't remember what it was about 437 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats handing in this the he can't believe that 438 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: they same thing the Washington Post editorial board basically said 439 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: is he can't believe that the Democrats are allowing him 440 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 3: to do this and run all the leverage. 441 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: Well, and Trump's boy Russell vote. The budget chief is 442 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: taking advantage of it to try to shrink the government 443 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: as fast as he possibly can. Whether it holds up 444 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: or not, nobody's quite sure. But it's exactly what Trump 445 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: and Elon Musk and company and a lot of conservatives 446 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: have been wanting to happen. 447 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: So let it continue. That's fine, I saw. So there 448 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: was some thing in the New York Times yesterday. I 449 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: got the bulletin during the day, you're nervous. Our experts 450 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: are here to answer your questions about the shutdown, I thought, 451 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: And I'm not nervous. I don't have any questions. I'm 452 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: perfectly fine. It'll end, like I keep saying, this afternoon 453 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: or Friday night or next Tuesday, and nobody will ever 454 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: think about it ever again. 455 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: So that was to their sizeable percentage of their listenership 456 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: that still wears covid masks alone outdoors. Right, Well, those 457 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: people are scared. They wake up scared. It makes them 458 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: feel important. Wow, I hadn't seen this. 459 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: Israel struck overnight in the Gaza Strip, killed at least 460 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: thirteen Palestinians according to whoever, according to hospitals. Of course, 461 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: a lot of hospitals are just Hamas holdouts and they 462 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: call them a hospital. But anyway, Israel's continuing to blast 463 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 3: that area Gaza while Hamas is waiting to decide thumbs 464 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: up or thumbs down on the peace proposal, which the 465 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: deadline is this weekend. 466 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: It's Thursday now, running out of time. Yeah, well, maybe 467 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: they ought to take a hard look at it and 468 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: figure it out quick. What do you think is going 469 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: to happen? I still think there are only two choices. 470 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: One Hamas says, all right, we'll go along with it, 471 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: and pretends to go along with it and seks to 472 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: do what they've always thought to do as hard as 473 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: they can. Secondly, they just reject it and say we'll 474 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: fight to the deaths because they've vowed martyred them over 475 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: and over again. 476 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: So the critics are saying, like I saw this, Peter 477 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: Baker of the New York Times that this was basically, 478 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: you know, and all or nothing for Hamas proposal from 479 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: the Yeah, you see, one side is winning the war, 480 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: and they're gonna win the war. 481 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: No matter what. 482 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: So they offered to the people that they're about to 483 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: completely decimate, here's a way out if you want it. 484 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: If you don't, we're just gonna continue to do what 485 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 3: we're doing. That's the way most wars end. Yeah, so 486 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: what like all of them? Yeah, so they can decide 487 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: to do it, Joe said, And you know, they're they're 488 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: uh dead enders. So they might say, you know, we're 489 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and fight to the death because they 490 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: don't care if they take all the Palestinians with them, 491 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: doesn't matter to them. 492 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: In fact, they think that would be great. Oh yeah. 493 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: In fact, they're gonna fight as long as they can 494 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: and have as many civilians die as possible to hope 495 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: that the world opinion turns against Israel, because it already 496 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: has to some extent. So yeah, that's probably the most 497 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: likely scenario. But the idea that you know, the Peter 498 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: Baker's of the world, and he's a bright enough guy, 499 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: but my god, you're holding Israel to a standard that 500 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: has never existed in warfare in the history of the world. 501 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: You've just invented this special new one for Israel. 502 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Showy or Jack or Joe Podcasts 503 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: and Our Hot Lakes. 504 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 505 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty Show from the Department of Why 506 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: does nobody recognize we're driving toward a cliff at one 507 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: hundred miles per hour? 508 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Alicia Finley of The Wall Street Journal pointing out 509 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: that America's buy now, pay later economy is showing signs 510 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: of an emerging debt crisis everywhere. 511 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't like this story. I'm not doing that. I'm 512 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: a I don't buy it until like an afford it 513 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: sort of guy. But we all get brought down by 514 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: a financial collapse. 515 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: We all realize that, right right, The word inclusive is 516 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: very hot these days. There certainly was a couple of 517 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: years ago. That's the brilliant thing about a financial crash. 518 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: It includes virtually everybody. Yeah, misery. So anyway, so she 519 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: points out that serious credit card and auto loan delinquencies 520 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: have climbed to the level of the twenty eighth nine recession. 521 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so rousing right after that giant crashes. Not surprising 522 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: that lots of people all of a sudden were in 523 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: trouble and not quite making their payments on time and 524 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. 525 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: What is the reason now? Nobody's sure we like spending money, 526 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: she says. The housing market shows cracks. Well, the labor 527 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: market is weakening, but you wouldn't know it from the 528 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: point stock market and consumer spending. America is buy now, 529 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: pay later economy, and at least increasingly fueled by leverage. 530 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: As consumers, investors, businesses, and the govern are all taking 531 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: on more debt, which she points out, and there's always 532 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: one person like this at the party, she points out, 533 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: you have to pay for debt later with interest. Thank 534 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: you for that. What a drag man. As Americans max 535 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: out their credit cards after years of inflation, by now, 536 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: pay later offers are popping up everywhere, from concert tickets 537 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: to vacations to grocery stores. Boy, oh, boil boil boy. 538 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: I can see how it would be appealing if I'm 539 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: twenty one year old Jack and they'll never tour again 540 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: or whatever it's their farewell tour man to not buy 541 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: your concert tickets on I can't afford it now, but 542 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: I'll magically have more money six months from now. 543 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: No, don't do that, I guess. There are now apps 544 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: where you can split the cost of your purchases into 545 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: installment payments over weeks or months. Some are currently interest 546 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: free for now, just to include fees. Here's what you do. 547 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: You borrow a against your used car. 548 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: Is that still a thing that people are doing, where 549 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: you take out equity from your used car? 550 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Yes? 551 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And unlike credit cards, a lot of these 552 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: services don't report the loans to the credit bureaus, so 553 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: folks are in much more debt than their credit rating 554 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: might indicate. 555 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: But so these all these different entities that are giving 556 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 3: people these deals must feel like they're going to get 557 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: paid back. 558 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, certainly in the short term. And they 559 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: have carefully calculated their default rates and you know, price 560 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: their services excuse me accordingly. And you know, if somebody 561 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: ends up not being able to pay, they just put 562 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: them their name on the blacklist. 563 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: And boy, my oldest son has got a life lesson 564 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: coming on. I don't even remember what it was now, 565 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: it's been so long, and something he really really wanted 566 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: and kind of fronted him the monk kind of fronted 567 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: him the money on that with the idea that you 568 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: will owe me and I will be keeping track of it, 569 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: and I have been keeping and he still owes me. 570 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: And Christmas might just be here. I've wiped off hot 571 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: half your debt. Merry Christmas. That would be a lesson 572 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: how that old thing works. That would be a great 573 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: gift in a way. Yeah, sure, not to be appreciated 574 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: at the time. According to recent survey, about half of 575 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: consumers have used a buy now, pay later service. 576 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: This is not a niche, this is half I've reskewed 577 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: towards the young. 578 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: Concert tickets, your vacation, I mean everybody kind of does 579 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: that a vacation, right, because you put everything on your 580 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: credit card, whether you pay it off that month or 581 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: over a couple of months. 582 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: Good point. Yeah, let's see Federal Reserve pay per last 583 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: December found such users are more likely to have low 584 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: credit scores, carry of balance on credit cards, have incurred 585 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: checking overdraft fees, and have more delinquent credit accounts. Financially 586 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: vulnerable consumers maybe over extending themselves. And let's see. One 587 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: of the bigger buy now, pay later services announced an IPO, 588 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: which is expected to be one of the biggest of 589 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: the year. Such services make money by capitalizing on financially 590 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: stretched consumers, especially young people who don't want to tighten 591 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: their belts. Wow. 592 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: According to the Babylon b As we told you, the 593 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: Social Security Administration is going to be renamed the Charles 594 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Ponzi Memorial Retirement Plan, which I like. 595 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: That is great. 596 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: The Department of Justice will be changed to the Department 597 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: of Revenge and all losers and haters. 598 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's appropriate. 599 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: And yet somewhat accurate in these days of law fair, 600 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: this is the one that hurts. The Department of the 601 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: Treasury will be changed to the Chinese Loan Office. 602 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Ooh, one more that I liked. 603 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: Sing in Urban Development will retitle his Department of the Pores. 604 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: The Pores. Wow. 605 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: By the way, we got a text from somebody who 606 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: said they always appreciate when I do my porky pig 607 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: routine not being able to. 608 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: Pronounce a word. I got another statistic for you. That's 609 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: enough fun. Back to the misery. So in twenty twelve, 610 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: mortgage you know, holders had debt to income ratio is 611 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: considered risky. Right, twenty eight percent of people had a 612 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: debt to income ratio that was pretty risky twenty eight 613 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 2: percent last year sixty nine percent. Oh my god. Seven 614 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: man Freddy mckew was thirty eight percent, up from sixteen 615 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: percent in twenty twelve. Seven out of ten. 616 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: Of yea, yeah, I don't think I do have a 617 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: risky debt to. 618 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: Income ratio. And if I haven't driven you to buy 619 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: gold and bury it in your backyards yet, how much? 620 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: How about one more? The FAHA Federal Housing Association, we 621 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: have a fancy new name for them, from the Babylon 622 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: Bay too bad. They've waived or reduced monthly payments on 623 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 2: one point two million mortgages over the past two years. 624 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: It's about fifteen percent of the total that they hold, 625 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: and without that forgiveness passed during the Biden administration, delinquencies 626 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: would be near the level of the twenty eight to 627 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: nine meltdown. Fanny and Freddy have also been slashing in 628 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: deferring payments on hundreds of thousands of mortgages. So I 629 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: go into my son's room last night to talk to him, 630 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: which is. 631 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 3: One of the grooviest high schooler bedrooms I've ever seen 632 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: in my life. He's put a lot of effort into it, 633 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: and it's very cool and dark. It's always very dark 634 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: in there. But anyway, I go into my high schooler's 635 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: room last night and did not smell pleasant. 636 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: I said, what is the deal in here? On a 637 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: rest of sex? 638 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: And he must have taken that to heart, because now 639 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: the higher house smells like high school boy cologne. And 640 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: I said, what did you do? And he said, we 641 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: used to sit at smell bed. So I sprayed around 642 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: some of my cologne. I thought that would help some 643 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: of your colone. Oh, it smells like you're on a 644 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: date with four high school sophomore boys right now in 645 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 3: my house. 646 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: Wow, way too much, way too much. I ortant to 647 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: ascertain the source of the funk. 648 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: First, it's not funny, I don't I don't know what 649 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: it is about the scent, but it just it smells 650 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: like if you had to name the smell, you'd say, 651 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm on a date with a boy who's about old 652 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: enough to get his driver's license. That's what it smells like. 653 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: Its own scent. You wow, acts bedroom spray. 654 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: Or something like that. Yikes. Among the story. I hope 655 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: you bought it for cash and didn't borrow them one 656 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: here you know, break up the picture. It's the arm 657 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: Strong in Getty Show, Armstrong in Getty, get Getty 658 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 5: So Art, Trap and Getty