Speaker 1: It's time to catch a cheater.
Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show.
Speaker 3: Paul is on the phone today for to Catch a Cheater.
Speaker 3: He's been with his girlfriend Leslie for three years, but
Speaker 3: now he thinks something's going on. So we're gonna see
Speaker 3: if we can help him out and try to catch
Speaker 3: her in a second.
Speaker 4: If she is.
Speaker 3: Hopefully she isn't. But Paul tell us what's going on?
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been with my girlfriend Leslie now for three years,
Speaker 4: and overall things have been great.
Speaker 1: It's been nice three years.
Speaker 4: Leslie actually moved up here from a small town, you know,
Speaker 4: one of those really small.
Speaker 1: Towns out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Scary to me.
Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, you know, to be honest, it's the
Speaker 1: same for me.
Speaker 4: It's a little odd going back because we visit often
Speaker 4: to her family, and every time we go back there,
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's going to another country or
Speaker 4: another planet or something.
Speaker 2: That's kind of nice. You really get to escape.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not really a big deal to visit often.
Speaker 4: I know, like I said, it's like another planet over there.
Speaker 4: But you know, my relationship with my family's a you.
Speaker 1: Know, at best strain. So you know, I've never had
Speaker 1: a problem going back with her as frequently as we do.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately this year, I'm not able to go back
Speaker 4: and visit with her on her mom's birthday. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm really swamped at work, and you know, it wasn't
Speaker 4: really a huge deal. But that's kind of where in
Speaker 4: regards to this trip and me not going with her.
Speaker 1: Is kind of where suspicions started creeping in.
Speaker 2: Okay, was she upset that you couldn't go with her?
Speaker 1: Well, see that that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It actually didn't seem like she was upset that I
Speaker 4: wasn't going with her. And you know, recently, you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like she's been kind of pushing me away.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, she's.
Speaker 4: Been getting you know, a little bit more distant from me.
Speaker 4: We've been getting into more arguments. And you know, one
Speaker 4: thing I've noticed, and and the thing that I'm worried.
Speaker 1: About, is this guy Joel. Well, Joel is her.
Speaker 4: It's it's her ex from you know, like her kind
Speaker 4: of high school sweetheart kind of guy you know, still
Speaker 4: lives in that small town where she came from. And
Speaker 4: I've noticed that her and Joel have been texting a
Speaker 4: lot more you know, recently.
Speaker 2: They've always been texting, you said, a lot more so
Speaker 2: they've always been a yeah, they.
Speaker 6: You know, you know, to be honest, I'm not one
Speaker 6: of those guys that's like have a huge issue with
Speaker 6: somebody having a friendship with an ex or you know,
Speaker 6: having that relationship ongoing.
Speaker 1: I met Joel, you know, when we've gone to to
Speaker 1: you know, to visit. You know, I've met the guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he seems like a decent person and and everything.
Speaker 4: But honestly, it has always just kind of been or
Speaker 4: at least in my perception, like sporadic communication.
Speaker 1: And you know, now it seems like it's getting to
Speaker 1: be a lot more frequent.
Speaker 4: Like I noticed that, you know, you know, I'll notice
Speaker 4: her phone will light up, you know, a lot, and
Speaker 4: I'll see you know, his name, you know, pop up,
Speaker 4: you know, like it does on the phone. And I
Speaker 4: noticed it's more and more, and you know, I even
Speaker 4: asked her about it, and you know, she's gotten a
Speaker 4: little bit defensive, like about me like checking on her
Speaker 4: or why am I looking at her phone and and
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Okay, honestly, like to put two
Speaker 4: and two together, I noticed that it's really been since
Speaker 4: I told her that I wasn't going that I wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna be able to make it to the trip. And
Speaker 4: I told her mom, I wasn't going to be able
Speaker 4: to make it that you know, the communication frequency you know,
Speaker 4: stepped up and they started talking more, and like I said,
Speaker 4: I didn't really feel like she was particularly upset that
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to be able to.
Speaker 1: Make it and I and I did. I asked her
Speaker 1: about it, and, like I said.
Speaker 4: She got defensive, and she also said, you know, oh, no,
Speaker 4: you know, just we were playing on meeting up with
Speaker 4: mutual friends or we're just making you know, some friends
Speaker 4: plans and old friends and getting together while I'm in
Speaker 4: town or while she's in town. Rather and I don't
Speaker 4: recall any friend group or mutual friend. I've never hung
Speaker 4: out with her and her mutual friends in her small town.
Speaker 4: So you know, honestly, I really don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: In So you think maybe it's like she's planning something
Speaker 3: with him for when she's there, but you're not there exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I thought maybe you guys could call her
Speaker 4: from you know, just say you're our credit card company
Speaker 4: and say she won a free travel ticket and a
Speaker 4: free companion and just ask her who she would pick
Speaker 4: to be that companion.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's a good idea.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll play a song come back, and then
Speaker 3: call her and hopefully she gives us your name and
Speaker 3: not somebody else's. But we'll play a song come back
Speaker 3: and get your to Catch a Cheater.
Speaker 2: Next.
Speaker 3: Right in the middle of to Catch a Cheater, if
Speaker 3: you're just joining us, Paul is on the phone and
Speaker 3: he thinks that his girlfriend of three years named Leslie
Speaker 3: might be cheating. So in a second, we're about to
Speaker 3: call her and see if we can catch her. But first, Paul,
Speaker 3: why don't you refresh her? He's a memory on your situation.
Speaker 1: We've been together three years.
Speaker 4: I'm worried she's getting back with or in a relationship
Speaker 4: with her ex boyfriend from high school. And I was
Speaker 4: hoping you guys could just pretend to be the credit
Speaker 4: card company and say she want a free flight and
Speaker 4: see who she picks.
Speaker 1: Okay, And she's.
Speaker 4: Going back home to visit her mom and I'm not going,
Speaker 4: and I'm worried that she's been really texting this guy
Speaker 4: and planning on seeing him when I'm not there.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for us to call her? Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, man, here we go.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 3: Hi, this is Grbal calling for I was looking for
Speaker 3: our card holder, Leslie.
Speaker 5: This is she is everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually calling you some good news.
Speaker 3: Congratulations for being a card holder with us and racking
Speaker 3: up so many points and miles in travel. You voucher
Speaker 3: for six hundred dollars in free travel for yourself and
Speaker 3: a companion.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, wow, this is so cool. Thank you.
Speaker 5: So what do I do?
Speaker 3: Well, It's simple. Your voucher will go automatically into your
Speaker 3: account online. So the only thing that I would need
Speaker 3: would be the name of the companion that you would
Speaker 3: take with you. Now, I can give you some time
Speaker 3: to obviously think about that, but unfortunately they ask that
Speaker 3: we give them that information ahead of time. You know.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Just the first and last name would be awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can you make it to Joel?
Speaker 3: Yes, I can get that notated on there. Would you
Speaker 3: like us to send an email to this person so
Speaker 3: that you can also give them the good news with
Speaker 3: like a little bit of an E card type situation?
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe just say that things keep getting better and
Speaker 7: after this trip we can go back and have the talk.
Speaker 3: I'll just read it back to you. Okay, it says
Speaker 3: your boyfriend in three years. Paul is on the phone
Speaker 3: right now listening to this and probably wants to know
Speaker 3: why you got the companion ticket for Joel and are
Speaker 3: sending Jill that message?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: What do I get that?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Paul?
Speaker 5: Wait, Paul's Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Leslie? This is the Jubile Show.
Speaker 3: It's a radio show, and we do a segment where
Speaker 3: we catch people cheating, and Paul thought you might be
Speaker 3: able to do.
Speaker 1: Something, but yeah, it seams I'm right.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, wow, Okay, well I was definitely not
Speaker 8: prepared to have this conversation at this moment, but I
Speaker 8: guess this is where we're at.
Speaker 1: Hi, Paul, Hi, Yeah, are you playing? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Yeah? It's true. I've been talking to my ex Joel.
Speaker 7: You know, you know Joel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know that part. I know you've been talking.
Speaker 1: I've talked to you about how you've been talking. But
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 7: So we've been talking, you know, about our past and
Speaker 7: the relationship and how it's never really had any real
Speaker 7: finality or ending, and you know, and then the conversation
Speaker 7: just kind of went into how there's still some feelings
Speaker 7: there that we have even though you know.
Speaker 5: We've broke off obviously, and.
Speaker 7: That you know, what we've been wanting in our life
Speaker 7: is really the same thing, which is to be in
Speaker 7: that town, in our town together and and have the
Speaker 7: same feature there. And I feel like an absolutely a
Speaker 7: horrible person right now, but I'm I mean, Paul, I'm
Speaker 7: in love with with Joel, and I've fallen back in
Speaker 7: love with him this past month, and I really think
Speaker 7: we've want to try and make it work this time.
Speaker 7: And so I guess my thought process was I wanted
Speaker 7: to get that ticket to Joel so that he could
Speaker 7: come here to us and we could all talk about it,
Speaker 7: and you know, he could help me move my things
Speaker 7: back back home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you serious? I honestly, I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: You think you think you were going to fly him
Speaker 4: with a free companion ticket to our house so that
Speaker 4: I would sit down with him and what shake his hand?
Speaker 1: Wish you well?
Speaker 9: I mean, I can't, you know, honestly, you know I
Speaker 9: love you and and you know we've been together three years,
Speaker 9: But it's really the sneaking around that bothers me the
Speaker 9: most that I got to like do a whole.
Speaker 1: Setup to catch you.
Speaker 4: Like I confronted you about you texting him and you
Speaker 4: talking to him, and obviously I knew something was up,
Speaker 4: and you could sense something was up.
Speaker 1: And we've been kind of, you know, at odd and
Speaker 1: the tension has been high. Why didn't you just talk
Speaker 1: to me? Why does it have to come out like this?
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous?
Speaker 4: And also, you know, thank you for doing this around
Speaker 4: your mom's birthday for real, honestly, like this is a
Speaker 4: like this is a devastating thing. And you know I
Speaker 4: love your mom to death. Okay, you know she likes me,
Speaker 4: or at least you've told me she likes me, you know,
Speaker 4: And and you want to put this around your mom's
Speaker 4: birthday and and and more so, instead of this being
Speaker 4: a very serious conversation about us breaking up or you
Speaker 4: moving up, you're like capitalizing on the fact that I
Speaker 4: couldn't make it to this trip. You're like seeing as
Speaker 4: like a blessing. And I could tell, I could tell
Speaker 4: you didn't want me there, you know. So you know,
Speaker 4: you know I love you, But.
Speaker 5: Like you, I hear what you're saying that I probably
Speaker 5: deserve that, definite.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, you deserve more than that, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know you can text me, you could, you can,
Speaker 4: you can reach out you obviously you would get yourself
Speaker 4: when I want to see you, I don't want to
Speaker 4: see him.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be the sit down, nice hug,
Speaker 1: shake hand thing.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I really hope you're happy because you're taking it.
Speaker 1: Off from me.
Speaker 7: Okay, well we'll talk about it, and again I'm sorry that.
Speaker 4: It had to come off this way, but nope, nothing
Speaker 4: to talk about.
Speaker 1: It is done.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well Paul, I'm sorry, man, so.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you know, tell you know what, y'all don't need
Speaker 1: to apologize. You're the only one that needs to apologize.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, you know, I was going to
Speaker 4: be embarrassed either way, but thank you for saving me.
Speaker 1: A trip to go over there and embarrass myself. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off.
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous, but you know what, at least it's
Speaker 4: better than me flying over there being around her family
Speaker 4: to be the guy the other man.
Speaker 2: Don't be embarrassed, man, this sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, whenever this happens, we always tell somebody there
Speaker 3: is someone out there for you. So don't give up,
Speaker 3: Pope man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm not even thinking about that, right, I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm just pissed.
Speaker 1: This is this hurts this honestly, it hurts.
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