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Speaker 1: It's time to catch a cheater.

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Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show.

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Speaker 3: Paul is on the phone today for to Catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 3: He's been with his girlfriend Leslie for three years, but

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Speaker 3: now he thinks something's going on. So we're gonna see

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Speaker 3: if we can help him out and try to catch

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Speaker 3: her in a second.

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Speaker 4: If she is.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully she isn't. But Paul tell us what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been with my girlfriend Leslie now for three years,

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Speaker 4: and overall things have been great.

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Speaker 1: It's been nice three years.

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Speaker 4: Leslie actually moved up here from a small town, you know,

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Speaker 4: one of those really small.

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Speaker 1: Towns out in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Scary to me.

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Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, you know, to be honest, it's the

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Speaker 1: same for me.

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Speaker 4: It's a little odd going back because we visit often

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Speaker 4: to her family, and every time we go back there,

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's going to another country or

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Speaker 4: another planet or something.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of nice. You really get to escape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not really a big deal to visit often.

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Speaker 4: I know, like I said, it's like another planet over there.

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Speaker 4: But you know, my relationship with my family's a you.

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Speaker 1: Know, at best strain. So you know, I've never had

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Speaker 1: a problem going back with her as frequently as we do.

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately this year, I'm not able to go back

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Speaker 4: and visit with her on her mom's birthday. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm really swamped at work, and you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: really a huge deal. But that's kind of where in

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Speaker 4: regards to this trip and me not going with her.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of where suspicions started creeping in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, was she upset that you couldn't go with her?

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Speaker 1: Well, see that that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: It actually didn't seem like she was upset that I

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Speaker 4: wasn't going with her. And you know, recently, you know,

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Speaker 4: I feel like she's been kind of pushing me away.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, she's.

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Speaker 4: Been getting you know, a little bit more distant from me.

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Speaker 4: We've been getting into more arguments. And you know, one

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Speaker 4: thing I've noticed, and and the thing that I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: About, is this guy Joel. Well, Joel is her.

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Speaker 4: It's it's her ex from you know, like her kind

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Speaker 4: lives in that small town where she came from. And

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Speaker 4: I've noticed that her and Joel have been texting a

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Speaker 2: They've always been texting, you said, a lot more so

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Speaker 2: they've always been a yeah, they.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, to be honest, I'm not one

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Speaker 6: of those guys that's like have a huge issue with

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Speaker 6: having that relationship ongoing.

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Speaker 1: I met Joel, you know, when we've gone to to

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Speaker 1: You know, he seems like a decent person and and everything.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, it has always just kind of been or

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Speaker 4: at least in my perception, like sporadic communication.

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Speaker 1: And you know, now it seems like it's getting to

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Speaker 4: Like I noticed that, you know, you know, I'll notice

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Speaker 4: her phone will light up, you know, a lot, and

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Speaker 4: I'll see you know, his name, you know, pop up,

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Speaker 4: you know, like it does on the phone. And I

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Speaker 4: noticed it's more and more, and you know, I even

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Speaker 4: little bit defensive, like about me like checking on her

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Speaker 4: or why am I looking at her phone and and

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Okay, honestly, like to put two

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Speaker 4: I told her that I wasn't going that I wasn't

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Speaker 4: gonna be able to make it to the trip. And

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Speaker 4: I told her mom, I wasn't going to be able

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Speaker 4: to make it that you know, the communication frequency you know,

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Speaker 4: stepped up and they started talking more, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: I didn't really feel like she was particularly upset that

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Speaker 1: Make it and I and I did. I asked her

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Speaker 4: She got defensive, and she also said, you know, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: you know, just we were playing on meeting up with

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Speaker 4: mutual friends or we're just making you know, some friends

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Speaker 4: plans and old friends and getting together while I'm in

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Speaker 4: recall any friend group or mutual friend. I've never hung

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Speaker 4: So you know, honestly, I really don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: In So you think maybe it's like she's planning something

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Speaker 3: with him for when she's there, but you're not there exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I thought maybe you guys could call her

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Speaker 4: from you know, just say you're our credit card company

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Speaker 4: and say she won a free travel ticket and a

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Speaker 4: free companion and just ask her who she would pick

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Speaker 4: to be that companion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll play a song come back, and then

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Speaker 3: call her and hopefully she gives us your name and

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Speaker 3: not somebody else's. But we'll play a song come back

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Speaker 3: and get your to Catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 2: Next.

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Speaker 3: Right in the middle of to Catch a Cheater, if

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Speaker 3: you're just joining us, Paul is on the phone and

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Speaker 3: he thinks that his girlfriend of three years named Leslie

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Speaker 3: might be cheating. So in a second, we're about to

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Speaker 3: call her and see if we can catch her. But first, Paul,

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Speaker 3: why don't you refresh her? He's a memory on your situation.

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Speaker 1: We've been together three years.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried she's getting back with or in a relationship

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Speaker 4: with her ex boyfriend from high school. And I was

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Speaker 4: hoping you guys could just pretend to be the credit

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Speaker 4: card company and say she want a free flight and

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Speaker 4: see who she picks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And she's.

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Speaker 4: Going back home to visit her mom and I'm not going,

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Speaker 4: and I'm worried that she's been really texting this guy

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for us to call her? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, man, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi, this is Grbal calling for I was looking for

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Speaker 3: our card holder, Leslie.

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Speaker 5: This is she is everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually calling you some good news.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations for being a card holder with us and racking

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Speaker 3: up so many points and miles in travel. You voucher

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Speaker 3: for six hundred dollars in free travel for yourself and

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Speaker 3: a companion.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, wow, this is so cool. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: So what do I do?

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Speaker 3: Well, It's simple. Your voucher will go automatically into your

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Speaker 3: account online. So the only thing that I would need

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Speaker 3: would be the name of the companion that you would

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Speaker 3: take with you. Now, I can give you some time

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Speaker 3: to obviously think about that, but unfortunately they ask that

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Speaker 3: we give them that information ahead of time. You know.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, Just the first and last name would be awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, can you make it to Joel?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I can get that notated on there. Would you

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Speaker 3: like us to send an email to this person so

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Speaker 3: that you can also give them the good news with

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Speaker 3: like a little bit of an E card type situation?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe just say that things keep getting better and

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Speaker 7: after this trip we can go back and have the talk.

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Speaker 3: I'll just read it back to you. Okay, it says

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Speaker 3: your boyfriend in three years. Paul is on the phone

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Speaker 3: why you got the companion ticket for Joel and are

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Speaker 3: sending Jill that message?

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 2: What do I get that?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Paul?

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Speaker 5: Wait, Paul's Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Leslie? This is the Jubile Show.

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Speaker 3: It's a radio show, and we do a segment where

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Speaker 3: we catch people cheating, and Paul thought you might be

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Speaker 1: Something, but yeah, it seams I'm right.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, wow, Okay, well I was definitely not

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Speaker 8: prepared to have this conversation at this moment, but I

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Speaker 8: guess this is where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Paul, Hi, Yeah, are you playing? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? It's true. I've been talking to my ex Joel.

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Speaker 7: You know, you know Joel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know that part. I know you've been talking.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you about how you've been talking. But

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 7: So we've been talking, you know, about our past and

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Speaker 7: finality or ending, and you know, and then the conversation

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Speaker 7: just kind of went into how there's still some feelings

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Speaker 5: We've broke off obviously, and.

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Speaker 7: That you know, what we've been wanting in our life

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Speaker 7: is really the same thing, which is to be in

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Speaker 7: horrible person right now, but I'm I mean, Paul, I'm

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Speaker 7: And so I guess my thought process was I wanted

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Speaker 7: and you know, he could help me move my things

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you serious? I honestly, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: You think you think you were going to fly him

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Speaker 4: with a free companion ticket to our house so that

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Speaker 4: I would sit down with him and what shake his hand?

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Speaker 1: Wish you well?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I can't, you know, honestly, you know I

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Speaker 9: But it's really the sneaking around that bothers me the

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Speaker 9: most that I got to like do a whole.

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Speaker 1: Setup to catch you.

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Speaker 4: Like I confronted you about you texting him and you

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Speaker 4: talking to him, and obviously I knew something was up,

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Speaker 4: and you could sense something was up.

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Speaker 1: And we've been kind of, you know, at odd and

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Speaker 1: the tension has been high. Why didn't you just talk

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Speaker 1: to me? Why does it have to come out like this?

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, thank you for doing this around

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Speaker 4: your mom's birthday for real, honestly, like this is a

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Speaker 4: like this is a devastating thing. And you know I

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Speaker 4: love your mom to death. Okay, you know she likes me,

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Speaker 4: or at least you've told me she likes me, you know,

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Speaker 4: And and you want to put this around your mom's

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Speaker 4: a very serious conversation about us breaking up or you

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Speaker 4: moving up, you're like capitalizing on the fact that I

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Speaker 4: couldn't make it to this trip. You're like seeing as

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Speaker 4: like a blessing. And I could tell, I could tell

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Speaker 5: Like you, I hear what you're saying that I probably

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Speaker 5: deserve that, definite.

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, you deserve more than that, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you know you can text me, you could, you can,

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Speaker 4: you can reach out you obviously you would get yourself

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Speaker 4: when I want to see you, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: see him.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be the sit down, nice hug,

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Speaker 1: shake hand thing.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I really hope you're happy because you're taking it.

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Speaker 1: Off from me.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well we'll talk about it, and again I'm sorry that.

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Speaker 4: It had to come off this way, but nope, nothing

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Speaker 4: to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It is done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well Paul, I'm sorry, man, so.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you know, tell you know what, y'all don't need

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Speaker 1: to apologize. You're the only one that needs to apologize.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, you know, I was going to

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Speaker 4: be embarrassed either way, but thank you for saving me.

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Speaker 1: A trip to go over there and embarrass myself. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm pissed off.

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous, but you know what, at least it's

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Speaker 4: better than me flying over there being around her family

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Speaker 4: to be the guy the other man.

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Speaker 2: Don't be embarrassed, man, this sucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, whenever this happens, we always tell somebody there

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Speaker 3: is someone out there for you. So don't give up,

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Speaker 3: Pope man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm not even thinking about that, right, I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm just pissed.

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Speaker 1: This is this hurts this honestly, it hurts.

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Speaker 7: This hurts the jubile shows to catch a cheater