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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 5: Would you, if you're the Jets offer Garrett Wilson and

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Speaker 5: Quinnin Williams and a third round pick, you don't give

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Speaker 5: up a first for the Patriots First, You're not giving

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Speaker 5: up your first round.

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Speaker 1: Picky, But I'm giving up to my best players, right,

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Speaker 1: But they're better than first round, especially Wilson. Now, who's young.

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Speaker 5: I knew you were going to do that, So think.

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Speaker 1: About it, though, Why are the Patriots doing this?

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Speaker 5: Hold on, so ah, so hold on? Now?

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Speaker 6: You would consider not picking in the first round this year?

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Speaker 5: Yes, because listen, hear me out, hear me out. I'll

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Speaker 5: hear you out. I'm getting surefire first round.

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Speaker 6: Players that neither one play left tackle.

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen, listen to me. I'm listening to I'm getting

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Speaker 5: see I would consider it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: So see, I think to me, in what I've seen

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Speaker 5: of him, and I haven't crushed it like you have.

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Speaker 5: Wants to know if Deuce is wearing skinny jeans, nouy

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Speaker 5: wearing skinny jeans. I remember when you bought denim jeans

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Speaker 5: from Levi's. It took like a month before they were

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Speaker 5: worked in. Right now, they come already broken in there,

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Speaker 5: they already got a hole. It's it's not great and

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Speaker 5: they've given.

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 5: at Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year.

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Speaker 5: Everybody getting ready for this final game against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be an interesting one for a lot

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Speaker 5: of different reasons, and we're going to get into all

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Speaker 5: of that. I hope everyone had a good New Year's

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Speaker 5: Alex Paul, I'm hoping it's a good New Year yeah, Douce,

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Speaker 5: we'll be here. Evan'll be by later and we'll get

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Speaker 5: into all that. We gotta hurry because we got to

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Speaker 5: do picks today. It's a big day. So did we

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Speaker 5: watch the games yesterday? Two games?

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Speaker 1: I did. Unfortunately, you know, for more serious reasons, we

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Speaker 1: didn't get to have all three. But yeah, the first

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Speaker 1: game I thought was wildly entertaining. The first and only

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Speaker 1: one of the playoffs that that I would say fit

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Speaker 1: net that was to State Texas. Game was a lot

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Speaker 5: So I don't care if he's going to be the

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Speaker 5: equipment manager, but I want this Scibedo guy on my team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I declared him a back of the envelope.

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Speaker 5: Oh I know, yeah, I know. He's not your type

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Speaker 1: Oh he's a great player, great college.

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Speaker 5: I thought you wouldn't like him.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to too hard, No, he's just he's talented,

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Speaker 1: like he just kind of was constantly overlooked. But he's

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's a first round pick, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 5: He's one of my Circle the Wagon guys.

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Speaker 1: Alex is laughing because she knows I have new ins

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Speaker 7: You being out on guys that try too hard, it

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Speaker 5: Of funny, Well, Paul don't like to try hard, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did. I mean because because we never criticized

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Speaker 5: Andy's the program Andy, and he said he was washed anyway.

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Speaker 1: But Stataboo's performance in that game yesterday was was unreal.

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Speaker 5: It was I really enjoyed watching that the night before

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Speaker 5: Ashton Genty. I have to admit it's the first time

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Speaker 1: Look and same with me.

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Speaker 5: I think. I think what it showed is when you

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Speaker 5: ran into a brick wall still at over one hundred yards.

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Speaker 5: But you notice his helmet's different than everybody else's.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like a race car driver helmet.

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Speaker 1: Boyiser gets that touchdown call back, They missed a couple

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, let's first praise Jesus their coach.

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Speaker 1: Oh, is that what James Franklin s every No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, that's Penn State's coach, James Franklin. No Boise

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Speaker 1: So anyway, all wait, the Boise State coach A sorry,

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Speaker 5: Oh before every every statement? Yeah, but that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Teach his own all right.

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Speaker 5: So let's get back to the Patriots coordinators talk today.

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Speaker 5: Uh Girod talked yesterday, is starting, turning to the head

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Speaker 1: Mayo said yesterday that if he's healthy, he will play right,

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Speaker 1: and but Van Pelt made it unequivocably clear, well, but

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Speaker 5: Up until I heard Van Pelt today, because of the

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Speaker 1: But the information that has changed is that he said

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Speaker 5: Now that I've heard van Pelt, I said he's starting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys usually do say the same thing and

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Speaker 1: I actually thought Mayo said he was starting yesterday too.

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Speaker 5: Healthy, right, But we didn't know that until today.

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Speaker 1: I knew he was healthy. Okay, you did, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I thought Mayo left a little bit absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I thought he well, thank you. I'm gonna I'm going

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Speaker 1: playing like I think the head coach had every intention

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Speaker 1: starting Drake May, and the offensive coordinator has every intention

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Speaker 6: The one we really we really need to play.

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Speaker 1: Drake could be, you know, so you know, as long

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Speaker 5: So there's been a lot of debate on all the

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Speaker 5: no like telling guys, oh, don't play at one hundred,

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Speaker 5: but no, you're playing to win.

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Speaker 1: The question is who's playing. Do you think that May

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that I would play Milton, you know,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think there's anything to gain at this

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Speaker 1: I think there is.

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Speaker 7: Something to gain by, especially Buffalo backups.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, putting Milton. Put Milton out there. Let's see how

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Speaker 1: Do we have a backup here? You know, because right

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Speaker 1: now we don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know for example. So I think

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Speaker 5: there is something to gain by putting Milton out there. Plus,

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Speaker 5: you're giving an atta boy to a guy who you

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Speaker 5: great on the scout team, you know, playing the opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 5: So give him a bone, give.

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Speaker 1: Them a game.

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Speaker 5: So I think there is something to be gained there,

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Speaker 5: whereas I think there's not much to be gained.

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Speaker 7: Right, and there's a lot to lose too, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that goes without saying you're right, But I

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Speaker 5: didn't want to bring that into it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't put that bad energy out into the world.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, and this is we talked about this on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and it's not something that I know that like, Evan

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Speaker 1: is kind of strong, he doesn't think he should play.

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Speaker 1: I am. This is a rare one for me where

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Speaker 1: I don't feel hotly strong about any of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if they play him, I'll be happy to watch him play.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't, I'll understand why they didn't play him, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really I'm not dying on the hill on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dying on the hill on this one perfectly play.

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Speaker 5: And then of course the ramifications of a win or loss,

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Speaker 5: And that why do you have to trade him? Why

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Speaker 5: an extraordinarily weak class.

441
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Speaker 1: I feel like it is an extraordinarily talking about two

442
00:20:36,994 --> 00:20:40,554
Speaker 1: and I don't That doesn't mean I don't think these

443
00:20:40,593 --> 00:20:42,234
Speaker 1: guys are going to go in the top five. I'm

444
00:20:42,234 --> 00:20:44,074
Speaker 1: saying I don't think that they're going to be valuable

445
00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:47,513
Speaker 1: enough for teams to say, not only I want to

446
00:20:47,553 --> 00:20:49,594
Speaker 1: take him in the first round. I'm willing to give

447
00:20:49,634 --> 00:20:51,994
Speaker 1: up multiple picks to move up to a spot where

448
00:20:51,994 --> 00:20:53,793
Speaker 1: I have to get to take him in the first round.

449
00:20:54,833 --> 00:20:57,833
Speaker 1: That's that's all I'm saying, right, I just don't feel

450
00:20:57,874 --> 00:21:01,313
Speaker 1: like these guys are thought of the way the top

451
00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:04,033
Speaker 1: three were last year. All three of those guys were

452
00:21:04,073 --> 00:21:05,113
Speaker 1: worthy of trading for.

453
00:21:05,273 --> 00:21:05,714
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

454
00:21:05,754 --> 00:21:07,793
Speaker 1: That's why the Giants were trying so hard to trade

455
00:21:07,793 --> 00:21:10,994
Speaker 1: with us to get Drake May. He was the third guy,

456
00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:13,234
Speaker 1: and they were clamoring for him. I don't think you

457
00:21:13,234 --> 00:21:16,353
Speaker 1: get Listen, maybe I'm wrong, No, but I don't think

458
00:21:16,353 --> 00:21:17,714
Speaker 1: the people are going to be clamoring for shit.

459
00:21:17,954 --> 00:21:20,513
Speaker 5: And the fact that when we talk about this draft class,

460
00:21:20,553 --> 00:21:22,274
Speaker 5: it's only those two guys.

461
00:21:22,073 --> 00:21:24,114
Speaker 1: And I don't know why that annoys you. The Patriots

462
00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:26,194
Speaker 1: aren't interested in the quarterback.

463
00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:28,833
Speaker 7: Market like it's especially if we stay at one.

464
00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:30,434
Speaker 1: Like you could still make a trade if you want

465
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Speaker 1: tom No, but make a trade.

466
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Speaker 5: They're annoyed because they're hoping for the Hall. They're hoping

467
00:21:35,553 --> 00:21:38,833
Speaker 5: to get the bag for the first overall pick, you know,

468
00:21:39,154 --> 00:21:41,633
Speaker 5: and it's just it may not happen the way it

469
00:21:41,674 --> 00:21:45,754
Speaker 5: has in the past, you know, and it's by the.

470
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Speaker 1: Way, similar to the way it hasn't happened in the past,

471
00:21:48,434 --> 00:21:49,114
Speaker 1: like that year.

472
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Speaker 5: It stinks, I know it, but that's just probably the fact.

473
00:21:53,394 --> 00:21:57,073
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, Evan, you know, I thought he

474
00:21:58,154 --> 00:22:01,113
Speaker 1: recounted in detail about Jacksonville situation. I think it was

475
00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:03,874
Speaker 1: the twenty two that he was talking about and ended

476
00:22:03,954 --> 00:22:05,954
Speaker 1: up having to say Trayvon Walker because they didn't have

477
00:22:05,994 --> 00:22:09,793
Speaker 1: anybody else that was looking to move up and again.

478
00:22:09,674 --> 00:22:11,234
Speaker 5: Or at least not for what they were asking.

479
00:22:11,313 --> 00:22:13,754
Speaker 1: So Malik Willis was ten, these guys are two and

480
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,154
Speaker 1: three like that. Is that that big of a difference?

481
00:22:16,634 --> 00:22:17,714
Speaker 5: Well, it is?

482
00:22:17,714 --> 00:22:18,273
Speaker 6: Is it really?

483
00:22:18,394 --> 00:22:18,594
Speaker 8: Yeah?

484
00:22:18,793 --> 00:22:20,754
Speaker 1: Ten to two or yeah, three guys that were supposed

485
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Speaker 1: to go in the first round and one of them

486
00:22:22,434 --> 00:22:24,394
Speaker 1: was supposed to go ten, who by the way, didn't

487
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Speaker 1: go until day two.

488
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Speaker 5: No, But I think so, I.

489
00:22:27,754 --> 00:22:29,834
Speaker 1: Don't think it's that out of the realm of possibility

490
00:22:29,833 --> 00:22:32,593
Speaker 1: that these guys are not as highly sought after as

491
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Speaker 1: people think.

492
00:22:33,114 --> 00:22:37,313
Speaker 5: I believe that, Yeah, all right. I also talked about

493
00:22:37,513 --> 00:22:41,633
Speaker 5: and Matt had it in the in the intro today

494
00:22:41,714 --> 00:22:45,634
Speaker 5: about my Jets fantasy trade, you know.

495
00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I just want to stay. I said

496
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Speaker 1: to you as we were coming in off there, I

497
00:22:50,073 --> 00:22:53,073
Speaker 1: just want to duly noted that you kept saying, listen

498
00:22:53,073 --> 00:22:55,234
Speaker 1: to me, listen to me out, hear me out. And

499
00:22:55,273 --> 00:22:57,393
Speaker 1: I was listening, and I was hearing you out. I

500
00:22:57,474 --> 00:22:58,873
Speaker 1: was not pooing you. That was Evan.

501
00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:03,433
Speaker 5: Stephen Westford was also listening. He said, I've made a

502
00:23:03,434 --> 00:23:05,393
Speaker 5: lot of fun of Fred over the years, as we

503
00:23:05,513 --> 00:23:08,634
Speaker 5: all have. The nut Wizards, soap with a slot, non

504
00:23:08,714 --> 00:23:12,153
Speaker 5: tidal river abs the rest have kept us entertaining. But

505
00:23:12,273 --> 00:23:14,994
Speaker 5: every once in a while, maybe every four or five years,

506
00:23:15,273 --> 00:23:16,994
Speaker 5: Fred's genius shines through.

507
00:23:17,593 --> 00:23:20,033
Speaker 1: Four or five years. It's not bad Tuesday. It's a

508
00:23:20,073 --> 00:23:20,553
Speaker 1: good run.

509
00:23:20,634 --> 00:23:23,674
Speaker 5: It only takes once to be a genius. Tuesday's trade

510
00:23:23,674 --> 00:23:26,114
Speaker 5: scenario with the Jets was brilliant, with the Jets keeping

511
00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:28,593
Speaker 5: two first round picks. Side note, of course, the Patriots

512
00:23:28,634 --> 00:23:30,833
Speaker 5: should want to pick up Wilson and Williams for a

513
00:23:30,833 --> 00:23:33,593
Speaker 5: first round pick, and then, as Fred does want to do,

514
00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:37,953
Speaker 5: he puked on his own brilliance by asking, by asking,

515
00:23:37,994 --> 00:23:40,674
Speaker 5: mere minutes later, why would the Giants ever want to

516
00:23:40,714 --> 00:23:42,914
Speaker 5: give up their best receiver for a first round pick?

517
00:23:43,353 --> 00:23:47,754
Speaker 1: Never change for it. The difference is I'm going to difference.

518
00:23:47,434 --> 00:23:49,073
Speaker 5: Is Garrett Wilson's disgrunt.

519
00:23:49,833 --> 00:23:52,194
Speaker 1: That's why that's a huge difference.

520
00:23:52,273 --> 00:23:55,114
Speaker 5: That's the thing that sparked why the Jets would even

521
00:23:55,154 --> 00:23:57,194
Speaker 5: consider this is because he wants out.

522
00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:00,554
Speaker 1: The Jets might feel like they have to trade Gary Alison.

523
00:24:00,793 --> 00:24:01,033
Speaker 5: Right.

524
00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:03,474
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants feel like they have to

525
00:24:03,474 --> 00:24:04,034
Speaker 1: get rid of name.

526
00:24:04,154 --> 00:24:07,833
Speaker 5: Steven Westford. You weren't listening quite as much as you

527
00:24:07,874 --> 00:24:08,474
Speaker 5: thought you were.

528
00:24:08,833 --> 00:24:10,353
Speaker 1: Fred's genius intact.

529
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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, Paul.

530
00:24:12,394 --> 00:24:12,873
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

531
00:24:12,914 --> 00:24:13,474
Speaker 5: Thank you, Paul.

532
00:24:13,513 --> 00:24:15,994
Speaker 1: I'm always supportive. It's a new me.

533
00:24:17,234 --> 00:24:18,273
Speaker 5: So we've been taking emails.

534
00:24:18,434 --> 00:24:20,194
Speaker 1: I've made it twenty five minutes.

535
00:24:20,033 --> 00:24:22,674
Speaker 5: Podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address. You

536
00:24:22,714 --> 00:24:25,193
Speaker 5: can sign up for the PU newsletter by going to

537
00:24:25,273 --> 00:24:29,234
Speaker 5: Patriots dot com slash PU Newsletter sign up. We got

538
00:24:29,234 --> 00:24:34,313
Speaker 5: one ready to go tomorrow. Okay, very good. You definitely

539
00:24:34,313 --> 00:24:37,433
Speaker 5: want to get that, especially in the off season, you know,

540
00:24:37,553 --> 00:24:39,793
Speaker 5: little extra content while the Patriots aren't playing.

541
00:24:40,353 --> 00:24:41,994
Speaker 7: So I feel like they're gonna get off the rails

542
00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:43,714
Speaker 7: in the off season, the fun.

543
00:24:43,474 --> 00:24:47,553
Speaker 5: They might, Yeah, behind the scenes video stuff like that.

544
00:24:47,674 --> 00:24:51,513
Speaker 5: In our offices, people don't people don't know where I work.

545
00:24:51,553 --> 00:24:52,793
Speaker 5: They don't know where Paul works.

546
00:24:53,194 --> 00:24:56,074
Speaker 7: It'd be good to see maybe the pregame show routine,

547
00:24:56,154 --> 00:24:56,954
Speaker 7: or there are.

548
00:24:56,874 --> 00:24:59,793
Speaker 1: People in the building who don't know where Paul works anymore. Yeah,

549
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:04,194
Speaker 1: some people like, see.

550
00:25:02,474 --> 00:25:05,033
Speaker 7: We're all downstairs. I had someone that didn't realize I

551
00:25:05,033 --> 00:25:05,754
Speaker 7: even still worked here.

552
00:25:05,833 --> 00:25:08,434
Speaker 5: Yeah, well hidden, but guess who's here.

553
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:12,114
Speaker 7: Look who's back from the locker room?

554
00:25:12,194 --> 00:25:14,793
Speaker 9: What was the mood where the players friendly to that

555
00:25:14,954 --> 00:25:15,874
Speaker 9: none of them look.

556
00:25:15,874 --> 00:25:19,154
Speaker 7: Like Devin, Henry Hay, Mike, what was it like.

557
00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:22,474
Speaker 4: In the locker room?

558
00:25:22,754 --> 00:25:23,354
Speaker 6: Pain Mike?

559
00:25:23,754 --> 00:25:26,553
Speaker 4: What was it like?

560
00:25:27,754 --> 00:25:29,273
Speaker 5: Hey, Mike, what was it?

561
00:25:29,793 --> 00:25:31,273
Speaker 1: Puts a smile on his face.

562
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Speaker 7: When you work on your music this off season, this

563
00:25:33,353 --> 00:25:34,394
Speaker 7: should be like the first song.

564
00:25:34,474 --> 00:25:37,194
Speaker 8: All I can do an acoustic version. I'll actually tell

565
00:25:37,234 --> 00:25:38,553
Speaker 8: you what it was like in the locker room with

566
00:25:38,593 --> 00:25:42,154
Speaker 8: the musically. Yeah, that's a good idea on that last

567
00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:44,714
Speaker 8: one though, Right, this is the last locker Room return

568
00:25:44,754 --> 00:25:48,194
Speaker 8: of the year. Fortunately, sadly last last one.

569
00:25:48,234 --> 00:25:50,833
Speaker 1: We just play it randomly in the off season.

570
00:25:51,434 --> 00:25:53,113
Speaker 5: Clay will be in the locker room on Monday.

571
00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:55,353
Speaker 1: No, but we won't be on We won't be on

572
00:25:55,394 --> 00:25:59,033
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, we scheduled to be well as.

573
00:25:58,914 --> 00:26:04,713
Speaker 8: Far as we know, imagine, no, but so nice heard

574
00:26:04,754 --> 00:26:07,034
Speaker 8: from brendan schooler today and you know, you could tell

575
00:26:07,033 --> 00:26:08,554
Speaker 8: it really made a lot, meant a lot to him.

576
00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:10,754
Speaker 6: We probably talk about.

577
00:26:13,234 --> 00:26:14,153
Speaker 1: Good guys.

578
00:26:14,154 --> 00:26:14,994
Speaker 8: He's our pro bowler.

579
00:26:15,154 --> 00:26:20,954
Speaker 6: Yeah, congratulations for saving yeah yeah.

580
00:26:20,994 --> 00:26:21,833
Speaker 1: Yeah.

581
00:26:21,874 --> 00:26:23,754
Speaker 8: But no, he was. He was really excited, you know,

582
00:26:23,793 --> 00:26:25,633
Speaker 8: I just see. And these are the moments where he

583
00:26:25,674 --> 00:26:27,873
Speaker 8: talked a little bit about being remembering being with his

584
00:26:27,994 --> 00:26:31,273
Speaker 8: dad and his brother and watching you know, football games

585
00:26:31,273 --> 00:26:33,513
Speaker 8: growing up, and his dad saying, you know, someday maybe

586
00:26:33,513 --> 00:26:34,714
Speaker 8: that could be you. And he said, you know, I

587
00:26:34,754 --> 00:26:36,433
Speaker 8: just had a really nice, you know phone call with

588
00:26:36,513 --> 00:26:38,393
Speaker 8: my family to let them know, and and I was

589
00:26:38,394 --> 00:26:40,394
Speaker 8: so you just see, he was, you know, really affected

590
00:26:40,394 --> 00:26:42,273
Speaker 8: by it. So it's it's cool, it's the human side

591
00:26:42,273 --> 00:26:44,434
Speaker 8: of it. You see. The guy who's you know, obviously

592
00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:45,754
Speaker 8: put a ton of work in. I mean, he was

593
00:26:45,754 --> 00:26:46,914
Speaker 8: at what two different colleges.

594
00:26:46,914 --> 00:26:50,274
Speaker 1: I mean, was he happy for Texas? Were disappointed for Orgon.

595
00:26:52,234 --> 00:26:52,674
Speaker 8: Exactly?

596
00:26:52,914 --> 00:26:52,994
Speaker 4: No.

597
00:26:53,353 --> 00:26:54,873
Speaker 8: They asked him a little bit about that, but he

598
00:26:55,154 --> 00:26:56,913
Speaker 8: he was he seemed like he was excited for Texas.

599
00:26:57,754 --> 00:26:59,754
Speaker 5: I don't know if we've already posted it, but we have.

600
00:27:00,434 --> 00:27:03,674
Speaker 5: When Gerard announced it to the team. So we've got

601
00:27:03,714 --> 00:27:04,913
Speaker 5: that shout out to football.

602
00:27:05,154 --> 00:27:05,994
Speaker 7: Let us capture that.

603
00:27:06,154 --> 00:27:08,593
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that'll be if it isn't already, it's up

604
00:27:08,634 --> 00:27:09,954
Speaker 5: on Patriots platforms.

605
00:27:10,154 --> 00:27:10,914
Speaker 4: Uh. Yeah.

606
00:27:11,114 --> 00:27:13,194
Speaker 7: It was so cool that Slater was in the room

607
00:27:13,234 --> 00:27:16,994
Speaker 7: for that, because like Slater or school or story is that,

608
00:27:17,833 --> 00:27:20,434
Speaker 7: Like Slater was the guy he modeled his game after him.

609
00:27:20,434 --> 00:27:23,314
Speaker 7: And his dad would watch Slater play and say, hey,

610
00:27:23,313 --> 00:27:25,553
Speaker 7: this is your path to the NFL, and then by

611
00:27:25,593 --> 00:27:27,793
Speaker 7: happenstance they ended up on the same team together.

612
00:27:27,954 --> 00:27:31,033
Speaker 5: And just I have to be honest by him. A

613
00:27:31,114 --> 00:27:32,834
Speaker 5: few days ago we were told, you know, we've got

614
00:27:32,833 --> 00:27:35,193
Speaker 5: one player that made it, and they they wouldn't tell

615
00:27:35,273 --> 00:27:36,194
Speaker 5: us who because you.

616
00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:38,194
Speaker 1: Know, God forbid we leak it the media.

617
00:27:38,234 --> 00:27:43,234
Speaker 5: No first Yeah, but my first my first thing was, oh, Gonzo, Yeah,

618
00:27:43,273 --> 00:27:46,194
Speaker 5: you know, use it. And then if not him is Barringer. Yeah,

619
00:27:46,313 --> 00:27:51,874
Speaker 5: like like I you know, blame you know, uh not

620
00:27:51,874 --> 00:27:54,154
Speaker 5: not good on me, But I forgot about Schooler.

621
00:27:54,234 --> 00:27:56,153
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, now, I uh, you know one of the

622
00:27:56,154 --> 00:27:57,833
Speaker 8: things I'd point out too, because we kind of I

623
00:27:57,833 --> 00:27:59,593
Speaker 8: think we gave him a little crap last year about

624
00:27:59,593 --> 00:28:02,674
Speaker 8: some of his inability to kind of keep his temper

625
00:28:02,793 --> 00:28:03,194
Speaker 8: under control.

626
00:28:03,273 --> 00:28:03,674
Speaker 6: Definitely.

627
00:28:04,234 --> 00:28:07,073
Speaker 1: He definitely cut back on the undisciplined penalty.

628
00:28:07,114 --> 00:28:08,594
Speaker 8: And he said that today, he said, you know, he said,

629
00:28:08,674 --> 00:28:10,673
Speaker 8: last year, I thought, you know, I took some stupid

630
00:28:10,674 --> 00:28:12,513
Speaker 8: penalties and kind of lost control, and I, you know,

631
00:28:12,553 --> 00:28:14,154
Speaker 8: really trying to be more of a leader this year.

632
00:28:14,273 --> 00:28:16,193
Speaker 8: So uh, you know, not a lot of bright spots

633
00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:16,474
Speaker 8: this year.

634
00:28:16,513 --> 00:28:17,994
Speaker 1: But but I definite on him, and good on you

635
00:28:18,073 --> 00:28:19,793
Speaker 1: bringing it up because we were both of us were

636
00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:21,913
Speaker 1: critical in a lot of post games last year of

637
00:28:22,353 --> 00:28:25,554
Speaker 1: you know, another unsportsmanlike contract penalty or another late hit,

638
00:28:25,634 --> 00:28:27,433
Speaker 1: you know kind of stuff. And I don't think he

639
00:28:27,474 --> 00:28:28,234
Speaker 1: had any of those.

640
00:28:28,313 --> 00:28:30,353
Speaker 8: No, No, I mean he you know, they asked him

641
00:28:30,394 --> 00:28:32,313
Speaker 8: about it, but he brought it up, and yeah, just

642
00:28:32,313 --> 00:28:33,954
Speaker 8: a good story, you know. I mean it's just it's

643
00:28:34,073 --> 00:28:36,513
Speaker 8: nice to just have a little see it's something positive

644
00:28:36,513 --> 00:28:39,234
Speaker 8: come out of this season winner this year.

645
00:28:39,314 --> 00:28:42,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, So maybe you want to rest him so he's

646
00:28:42,234 --> 00:28:42,714
Speaker 5: ready for the.

647
00:28:44,074 --> 00:28:45,873
Speaker 8: Pro Bowl games. He's gonna get in that dodgeball game.

648
00:28:45,914 --> 00:28:47,514
Speaker 8: You want to make sure he's nice in the limber.

649
00:28:48,034 --> 00:28:51,074
Speaker 1: Seemed like a good dodgeball player thin, So we can

650
00:28:51,154 --> 00:28:56,354
Speaker 1: turn sideways hard, you know, it's versatile, might hit the flow,

651
00:28:56,554 --> 00:28:58,834
Speaker 1: you'd have to get the replay to hit his hair.

652
00:28:59,834 --> 00:29:02,234
Speaker 8: But also uh, in terms of the revs locker room,

653
00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:04,754
Speaker 8: heard from Christian Ellis as well as Kendrick Bourne too,

654
00:29:04,874 --> 00:29:07,234
Speaker 8: So uh, Bourn kind of interesting thought, Mike, you already

655
00:29:07,274 --> 00:29:09,994
Speaker 8: had a good question for him. Uh, listed off all

656
00:29:10,034 --> 00:29:13,834
Speaker 8: the different Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia, Bill O'Brien, Alex Van Pelt.

657
00:29:13,874 --> 00:29:16,794
Speaker 8: You've had four different coordinators here. You know, is it

658
00:29:16,794 --> 00:29:18,274
Speaker 8: hard on a player? And he said, yeah, you know,

659
00:29:18,314 --> 00:29:20,714
Speaker 8: it's an underrated part of it is, you know, understanding

660
00:29:20,714 --> 00:29:22,914
Speaker 8: how the offense is run, what the what this offensive

661
00:29:22,954 --> 00:29:25,234
Speaker 8: coordinator is looking for. Uh so he's you know, vote

662
00:29:25,354 --> 00:29:27,314
Speaker 8: confidence for avp s that he really likes a VP,

663
00:29:27,514 --> 00:29:31,193
Speaker 8: but just a player's perspective, a receiver's perspective on some

664
00:29:31,234 --> 00:29:33,274
Speaker 8: of the challenges. And I mean he's had and I'm

665
00:29:33,274 --> 00:29:35,474
Speaker 8: sure he had another OC when he's at San Francisco too,

666
00:29:35,514 --> 00:29:37,394
Speaker 8: so you know, he's had a bunch of different offenses.

667
00:29:37,434 --> 00:29:39,314
Speaker 8: And I mean I think the other thing is like

668
00:29:39,354 --> 00:29:41,274
Speaker 8: these guys all seem to understand this is just how

669
00:29:41,314 --> 00:29:43,873
Speaker 8: the league works. I mean even the coaches talking today,

670
00:29:43,914 --> 00:29:45,954
Speaker 8: it's you know, this is it you win three games,

671
00:29:46,354 --> 00:29:48,674
Speaker 8: everybody knows everything's on the table, and you don't know

672
00:29:48,714 --> 00:29:49,674
Speaker 8: what's gonna happen next week.

673
00:29:49,754 --> 00:29:51,834
Speaker 5: You're talking about Covington and a VP talking.

674
00:29:51,914 --> 00:29:54,193
Speaker 8: Yeah AVP, I mean AVP especially. I mean, I just

675
00:29:54,514 --> 00:29:56,474
Speaker 8: I think we all, I mean all speak for myself,

676
00:29:56,514 --> 00:29:58,154
Speaker 8: but I just I really enjoyed listening to him this

677
00:29:58,154 --> 00:30:04,594
Speaker 8: this year. He's very honest, Yeah, coach, willing to admit mistakes, like,

678
00:30:04,634 --> 00:30:06,794
Speaker 8: you know, pointing out like I shouldn't have called that

679
00:30:06,794 --> 00:30:08,913
Speaker 8: play the other day. I thought, uh, you know, I

680
00:30:08,914 --> 00:30:10,873
Speaker 8: mean obviously had a you know, a couple of missteps

681
00:30:10,874 --> 00:30:13,474
Speaker 8: this season, but overall, just I just enjoyed listening to him.

682
00:30:13,474 --> 00:30:15,154
Speaker 8: I mean that's I'd probably say the same for Josh

683
00:30:15,234 --> 00:30:17,113
Speaker 8: back in the day. Like you know, certain coaches you

684
00:30:17,234 --> 00:30:20,474
Speaker 8: just enjoy listening to their view on football, and especially

685
00:30:20,474 --> 00:30:22,714
Speaker 8: when with a VP, it's not is you don't feel

686
00:30:22,754 --> 00:30:25,234
Speaker 8: like it's being editorialized. Really, he's just kind of telling

687
00:30:25,434 --> 00:30:27,674
Speaker 8: how he feels, and yeah, I just I appreciated that

688
00:30:27,714 --> 00:30:28,034
Speaker 8: from him.

689
00:30:28,234 --> 00:30:30,913
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, I mean that's gonna be the big topic

690
00:30:31,114 --> 00:30:35,153
Speaker 5: after this game, is who stays, who goes. I know,

691
00:30:35,194 --> 00:30:37,514
Speaker 5: there's to me, there's been a little bit of a

692
00:30:37,554 --> 00:30:41,274
Speaker 5: ground swell to keep AVP and I think that started

693
00:30:41,914 --> 00:30:45,594
Speaker 5: maybe three quarters of the way through the season. I

694
00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,514
Speaker 5: think Paul you were the one of all the names,

695
00:30:48,954 --> 00:30:52,834
Speaker 5: the top names on the team, starting with wolf Down.

696
00:30:53,354 --> 00:30:57,113
Speaker 5: Of those guys, it you know, just from appearances, a

697
00:30:57,234 --> 00:30:59,594
Speaker 5: VP looks like he's done the best job.

698
00:30:59,754 --> 00:31:01,394
Speaker 1: And I think he's had the hardest job.

699
00:31:01,554 --> 00:31:05,714
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the offense, forget about the stats,

700
00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:08,314
Speaker 5: but just look at the development of Drake May, which

701
00:31:08,354 --> 00:31:09,873
Speaker 5: was priority number one for him.

702
00:31:09,954 --> 00:31:11,834
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he did a pretty good job with that.

703
00:31:12,034 --> 00:31:14,994
Speaker 1: And it's not perfect, and he is. He tells us

704
00:31:15,034 --> 00:31:17,034
Speaker 1: every week all these little things, you know, like he's

705
00:31:17,074 --> 00:31:20,673
Speaker 1: really hard on himself. He talked about that pitch against

706
00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:24,074
Speaker 1: the Chargers that you know resulted in the fumble. He

707
00:31:24,074 --> 00:31:26,633
Speaker 1: he put that on him. I put them in a

708
00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:28,633
Speaker 1: bad spot. I put our guys in a bad spot.

709
00:31:28,674 --> 00:31:31,234
Speaker 1: Those are the ones they keep them up. And again

710
00:31:31,594 --> 00:31:33,834
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give them all this credit, like, well,

711
00:31:33,914 --> 00:31:36,194
Speaker 1: maybe stop making bad play calls and you wouldn't be

712
00:31:36,314 --> 00:31:38,594
Speaker 1: keeping yourself up. So it's not been perfect. I'm not

713
00:31:38,674 --> 00:31:41,274
Speaker 1: trying to say that, but I think out of those

714
00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,754
Speaker 1: four guys, his job was the most difficult given the

715
00:31:43,834 --> 00:31:47,393
Speaker 1: lack of support and the fact that you're dealing with

716
00:31:47,394 --> 00:31:52,434
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. So if anyone I think has made

717
00:31:52,434 --> 00:31:54,394
Speaker 1: a case for himself, I think it's Alex ran Pell.

718
00:31:54,594 --> 00:31:56,434
Speaker 8: He's earned the case to give him some talent, like

719
00:31:56,474 --> 00:31:58,034
Speaker 8: you know, some of the other you know the other.

720
00:31:57,914 --> 00:31:58,673
Speaker 1: How does it look if?

721
00:31:58,754 --> 00:32:01,633
Speaker 8: Yeah, players, you could say that about across the roster,

722
00:32:01,794 --> 00:32:04,113
Speaker 8: but he's one where you know, he was able to

723
00:32:04,114 --> 00:32:06,154
Speaker 8: bring a few things together. I agree.

724
00:32:06,194 --> 00:32:08,514
Speaker 5: I mean I was reading something today about his time

725
00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:10,834
Speaker 5: in Cleveland and when he got released, and there were

726
00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:13,514
Speaker 5: a lot of people that were a little bit baffled

727
00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:16,034
Speaker 5: on why they released him, you know, based on the

728
00:32:16,074 --> 00:32:18,074
Speaker 5: situation there and the job he was doing.

729
00:32:18,354 --> 00:32:22,794
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had done they had remained productive offensively

730
00:32:22,914 --> 00:32:25,514
Speaker 1: with four or five quarterbacks during the course of the year.

731
00:32:25,994 --> 00:32:28,034
Speaker 1: Now what a lot of people And I was one

732
00:32:28,074 --> 00:32:31,433
Speaker 1: that was very strongly on Van Pelt's side, But I

733
00:32:31,434 --> 00:32:33,474
Speaker 1: didn't realize, you know, how little he had to do

734
00:32:33,514 --> 00:32:35,434
Speaker 1: with the you know, the play calling and all that stuff.

735
00:32:35,474 --> 00:32:37,113
Speaker 1: You know from Afar, you don't know the ins and

736
00:32:37,114 --> 00:32:40,354
Speaker 1: outs like that. Stefanski was calling the plays. But yeah,

737
00:32:40,554 --> 00:32:42,594
Speaker 1: you're right, a lot of people in Cleveland, were like,

738
00:32:42,874 --> 00:32:44,354
Speaker 1: he wasn't the problem. What are we doing?

739
00:32:44,554 --> 00:32:44,754
Speaker 5: Right?

740
00:32:44,874 --> 00:32:45,114
Speaker 8: Yeah?

741
00:32:45,354 --> 00:32:49,673
Speaker 5: Yep. So so he taught Paul and I mentioned a

742
00:32:49,674 --> 00:32:51,874
Speaker 5: little bit, you know, he came out definitively and said

743
00:32:51,874 --> 00:32:55,074
Speaker 5: that May will be playing. He will start. Yeah, so

744
00:32:55,154 --> 00:32:56,874
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean he's going to play the whole game.

745
00:32:56,994 --> 00:32:59,633
Speaker 1: But do you think he should play? We had a

746
00:32:59,834 --> 00:33:00,674
Speaker 1: we had a quick.

747
00:33:00,554 --> 00:33:02,873
Speaker 8: You know, I think if I was doing it, I

748
00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:04,994
Speaker 8: would start him. I'd play him a couple series and

749
00:33:04,994 --> 00:33:06,714
Speaker 8: then I put Jill Milton in and I just I

750
00:33:06,754 --> 00:33:08,154
Speaker 8: want to give him this week of prep. I think

751
00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:09,834
Speaker 8: he needs to play. I think the value of going

752
00:33:09,874 --> 00:33:13,113
Speaker 8: against Buffalo, even if it's backups again, you know, I

753
00:33:13,234 --> 00:33:14,714
Speaker 8: just I just doesn't.

754
00:33:14,194 --> 00:33:15,834
Speaker 1: Sound like that it's gonna be like the way they

755
00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:17,954
Speaker 1: said that Milton got some reps this week, and.

756
00:33:17,954 --> 00:33:21,314
Speaker 8: They asked, you know, they asked, I think inter Callahan

757
00:33:21,354 --> 00:33:24,114
Speaker 8: asked did he get any reps? And and Alice confirmed

758
00:33:24,114 --> 00:33:26,314
Speaker 8: today that he did. And then Kendrick Bourne was also

759
00:33:26,354 --> 00:33:28,514
Speaker 8: asked a little bit about Joe Milton, and you know,

760
00:33:28,594 --> 00:33:30,354
Speaker 8: and he kind of seemed to confirm that he got

761
00:33:30,394 --> 00:33:32,673
Speaker 8: some reps yesterday and a lot of these I mean,

762
00:33:32,714 --> 00:33:35,714
Speaker 8: Kendrick very high on on Milton, just the attitude that

763
00:33:35,754 --> 00:33:38,754
Speaker 8: he brings, and you know, he he's obviously been behind

764
00:33:38,754 --> 00:33:40,754
Speaker 8: the scenes this year, but I think everybody like to

765
00:33:40,834 --> 00:33:42,594
Speaker 8: just I mean, it's kind of fun. Why wasn't that

766
00:33:42,634 --> 00:33:44,194
Speaker 8: guy chuck that ball down the field? I wouldn't be

767
00:33:44,194 --> 00:33:44,714
Speaker 8: opposed to it.

768
00:33:44,754 --> 00:33:48,914
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, anything from Covington that raised your.

769
00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:52,274
Speaker 8: Eyebrown Not really and maybe that's that's the bad thing,

770
00:33:52,314 --> 00:33:53,594
Speaker 8: but I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's

771
00:33:53,674 --> 00:33:56,194
Speaker 8: kind of, you know, settling in saying the same things

772
00:33:56,234 --> 00:33:57,874
Speaker 8: every week of you know, we just got to play better.

773
00:33:57,914 --> 00:33:59,554
Speaker 8: I mean, I do think he came out pretty you know,

774
00:34:00,434 --> 00:34:03,873
Speaker 8: support for key On White. I surprised talking about you know,

775
00:34:03,874 --> 00:34:06,354
Speaker 8: he's been over my house at Christmas, because I mean,

776
00:34:06,394 --> 00:34:09,114
Speaker 8: for me, it was hard not to hear some of

777
00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:11,074
Speaker 8: what Keon was saying and feel kind of like it

778
00:34:11,114 --> 00:34:13,433
Speaker 8: was aimed at how I'm being used and you know,

779
00:34:13,474 --> 00:34:15,714
Speaker 8: how what they're making me do. And you know, I

780
00:34:15,754 --> 00:34:17,554
Speaker 8: think some of those arguments that Keon might have been

781
00:34:17,554 --> 00:34:19,473
Speaker 8: making that we all could have pushed back a little

782
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:20,954
Speaker 8: bit and said, well, key On, maybe you got to

783
00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:22,754
Speaker 8: do what's right for the team in this situation. It's

784
00:34:22,754 --> 00:34:24,754
Speaker 8: not just about you know, unleashing you and letting you

785
00:34:24,794 --> 00:34:27,434
Speaker 8: go get the quarterback. I think that's the growth process

786
00:34:27,434 --> 00:34:30,274
Speaker 8: of a young player too. But we'll see, we'll see.

787
00:34:30,274 --> 00:34:32,234
Speaker 8: With Covington, I mean, he's been pretty consistent all year.

788
00:34:32,274 --> 00:34:34,154
Speaker 8: I think we Paul and I both felt like one

789
00:34:34,154 --> 00:34:36,274
Speaker 8: of one of the press conferences he seemed to lack

790
00:34:36,354 --> 00:34:38,794
Speaker 8: his swag a little bit. But otherwise he's been He

791
00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:40,553
Speaker 8: has been consistent, even though the you know, the well,

792
00:34:40,594 --> 00:34:42,834
Speaker 8: I guess the results have been pretty consistent too, in

793
00:34:42,873 --> 00:34:45,714
Speaker 8: a bad way. But you know, it's hard, It's it's

794
00:34:45,714 --> 00:34:48,234
Speaker 8: just you find yourself sitting there wondering, this is a

795
00:34:48,274 --> 00:34:50,674
Speaker 8: first yeer head coach, and you know, we knew there

796
00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:52,874
Speaker 8: were going to be some ups and downs, but you're weighing,

797
00:34:53,074 --> 00:34:54,754
Speaker 8: you know, how how bad was it really? And is

798
00:34:54,754 --> 00:34:56,234
Speaker 8: it going to get it? Do you really believe it

799
00:34:56,234 --> 00:34:58,953
Speaker 8: can get better if these guys are giving more opportunities?

800
00:34:59,314 --> 00:35:01,354
Speaker 5: Eric and Maryland says this is a true story. I

801
00:35:01,354 --> 00:35:03,714
Speaker 5: had to get new tires yesterday and instead of waiting

802
00:35:03,714 --> 00:35:06,553
Speaker 5: at the Firestone shop, I decided to walk about a

803
00:35:06,554 --> 00:35:09,953
Speaker 5: mile to a nearby food court for lunch. Unfortunately, the

804
00:35:10,034 --> 00:35:12,513
Speaker 5: last thing I heard on my car radio before the

805
00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:15,354
Speaker 5: walk was that damp jingle from Cars for Kids. That

806
00:35:15,473 --> 00:35:17,954
Speaker 5: jingle makes me want to repeatedly beat my skull against

807
00:35:17,953 --> 00:35:21,913
Speaker 5: a concrete wall to get that earthworm out of my head. Luckily,

808
00:35:22,433 --> 00:35:25,873
Speaker 5: I remembered Mike's song and forced myself to say, in

809
00:35:25,913 --> 00:35:28,274
Speaker 5: a matter of moments, Car for Kids was no longer

810
00:35:28,274 --> 00:35:31,154
Speaker 5: in my head, replaced by the soothing melodies of Mike's

811
00:35:31,154 --> 00:35:36,114
Speaker 5: adventures with Derrick Henry. That song saved my sanity.

812
00:35:36,834 --> 00:35:39,393
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter how long you go without hearing the

813
00:35:39,433 --> 00:35:41,794
Speaker 7: Cars for Kids jingle, Like if you think of it once,

814
00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:43,354
Speaker 7: you're screwed with the kids stuck in your head.

815
00:35:43,354 --> 00:35:45,314
Speaker 8: Hey a r S car spreeks. I donated a car

816
00:35:45,354 --> 00:35:47,194
Speaker 8: of Cars for Kids, probably because of that jingle, like

817
00:35:47,234 --> 00:35:50,433
Speaker 8: my Mike O G Blazer that I wrote I drove

818
00:35:50,433 --> 00:35:51,913
Speaker 8: from ninety one to two thousand and four.

819
00:35:51,994 --> 00:35:59,913
Speaker 5: That w And they also say donate wrong, they say today.

820
00:35:59,674 --> 00:36:04,554
Speaker 8: They do songs back in a lot of people's heads. Now, sorry, yeah, sorry.

821
00:36:04,114 --> 00:36:06,433
Speaker 5: All right? A five to five pats five hundred is

822
00:36:06,473 --> 00:36:08,993
Speaker 5: the TPX hotline. We got a hurry because we got

823
00:36:08,994 --> 00:36:12,274
Speaker 5: picked today. Was it just a preview a good week?

824
00:36:12,433 --> 00:36:15,354
Speaker 1: Oh it's another very strong, very strong for Evan.

825
00:36:15,393 --> 00:36:16,314
Speaker 8: Did he falter at all?

826
00:36:17,473 --> 00:36:20,074
Speaker 1: No, he didn't have the best week though. There was

827
00:36:20,114 --> 00:36:21,714
Speaker 1: a three way tied at the top and he was

828
00:36:21,754 --> 00:36:24,274
Speaker 1: not among it. When he was like one game back.

829
00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:26,553
Speaker 7: He's still going to be not victory.

830
00:36:26,354 --> 00:36:26,993
Speaker 8: He's gonna win.

831
00:36:27,154 --> 00:36:27,993
Speaker 1: He's gonna win both.

832
00:36:28,194 --> 00:36:29,514
Speaker 7: He's gonna come in with like a trophy.

833
00:36:30,473 --> 00:36:30,913
Speaker 5: I have a.

834
00:36:30,994 --> 00:36:33,073
Speaker 1: Chance to catch him in spread, but I don't.

835
00:36:33,114 --> 00:36:35,433
Speaker 5: I don't. Does he have a LinkedIn account? I don't

836
00:36:35,473 --> 00:36:38,073
Speaker 5: know if that he wanted to pick up a bad

837
00:36:39,834 --> 00:36:41,754
Speaker 5: and will know how much it meant winter the picks

838
00:36:41,994 --> 00:36:49,274
Speaker 5: and all of the year. What's up, Fidel?

839
00:36:50,994 --> 00:36:54,874
Speaker 9: Hey you guys. Hey, I'm doing great.

840
00:36:55,034 --> 00:36:55,154
Speaker 6: Uh?

841
00:36:55,274 --> 00:36:58,194
Speaker 9: And she had a funny story. Just came back from Boston.

842
00:36:58,274 --> 00:37:00,834
Speaker 9: Had a great time. It was the Chargers game.

843
00:37:00,873 --> 00:37:03,513
Speaker 8: It was amazing, really okay.

844
00:37:04,634 --> 00:37:06,993
Speaker 9: I have a funny story about what actually happened at

845
00:37:06,994 --> 00:37:09,714
Speaker 9: the Stay Beautiful Stadium. By the way, best experience I

846
00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:10,993
Speaker 9: ever had an NFL game?

847
00:37:12,074 --> 00:37:15,633
Speaker 5: Where'd you set asart from the game part, where'd you say?

848
00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,513
Speaker 9: In the one around the fifty yard line? I was

849
00:37:18,554 --> 00:37:21,354
Speaker 9: like feet away from the Patriots, but not bad?

850
00:37:21,514 --> 00:37:21,993
Speaker 8: There you go?

851
00:37:23,154 --> 00:37:29,194
Speaker 9: Yeah, but uh, I kind of accidentally found myself in

852
00:37:29,594 --> 00:37:33,234
Speaker 9: Girodmeo's family's sleep what.

853
00:37:34,834 --> 00:37:35,194
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

854
00:37:35,274 --> 00:37:39,154
Speaker 9: It was by accident. It was by accident. So I

855
00:37:39,274 --> 00:37:42,473
Speaker 9: was taking photography photos, so I brought my camera. It's

856
00:37:42,514 --> 00:37:44,513
Speaker 9: like a small camera but as like a zoom lens

857
00:37:44,634 --> 00:37:48,633
Speaker 9: kind of thing. So midway to the game, we're getting

858
00:37:48,674 --> 00:37:50,234
Speaker 9: blown out, so I'm like, all right, let me just

859
00:37:50,274 --> 00:37:55,154
Speaker 9: walk around take photos. So I'm walking up from the

860
00:37:55,154 --> 00:37:58,113
Speaker 9: one hundreds and I'm going to the two hundred level

861
00:37:58,154 --> 00:38:01,473
Speaker 9: to the three hundred level. And as I'm walking up,

862
00:38:01,594 --> 00:38:03,634
Speaker 9: I see there's like a gaze area, but it's not

863
00:38:03,714 --> 00:38:07,314
Speaker 9: like secured or like don't get one fired right now,

864
00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:09,354
Speaker 9: but it was. There was no one there, but I

865
00:38:09,393 --> 00:38:12,393
Speaker 9: saw a cool overlook of the stadium. So I'm like, oh,

866
00:38:12,714 --> 00:38:15,633
Speaker 9: so I just walked through because there was no real

867
00:38:15,754 --> 00:38:17,953
Speaker 9: like anything there, and I saw people were already there,

868
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:22,594
Speaker 9: so I walked through start taking pictures, and the group

869
00:38:22,674 --> 00:38:26,873
Speaker 9: that was there already started walking into this area. I

870
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:28,513
Speaker 9: didn't know where it was leading to. I'm like, oh,

871
00:38:28,594 --> 00:38:32,234
Speaker 9: maybe it's another side of the stadium. So I'm walking

872
00:38:32,274 --> 00:38:36,153
Speaker 9: with them and I'm going through and I accidentally wound

873
00:38:36,274 --> 00:38:38,993
Speaker 9: up in that private suite area that you guys just

874
00:38:39,074 --> 00:38:41,874
Speaker 9: built the stadium like last year. I'm like, oh, wow,

875
00:38:41,994 --> 00:38:47,034
Speaker 9: this is amazing. So I'm walking through, I grab a

876
00:38:47,074 --> 00:38:52,033
Speaker 9: splash of prime rib. I'm watching the game and then

877
00:38:52,114 --> 00:38:55,194
Speaker 9: this at this point is when lat McConkie scores a

878
00:38:55,234 --> 00:38:58,074
Speaker 9: second touchdown and I'm eating primary, like, no, friends, this

879
00:38:58,074 --> 00:39:02,274
Speaker 9: should have been us. It should have gotten lad and

880
00:39:03,794 --> 00:39:05,993
Speaker 9: looking through the suite and I'm having a great time,

881
00:39:07,554 --> 00:39:10,354
Speaker 9: and I see this on another two three levels. I'm like, oh,

882
00:39:10,354 --> 00:39:13,913
Speaker 9: what's up there? So I see a group going down

883
00:39:13,913 --> 00:39:17,633
Speaker 9: into the elevator and I just naturally follow them, all.

884
00:39:17,594 --> 00:39:19,514
Speaker 6: Right, and anybody working security.

885
00:39:19,514 --> 00:39:23,274
Speaker 9: They start talking and stuff, and I'm just falling done

886
00:39:23,274 --> 00:39:24,913
Speaker 9: because i have nowhere else to go. And they just

887
00:39:25,034 --> 00:39:30,513
Speaker 9: walk into a suite and as I walk in, I

888
00:39:30,554 --> 00:39:32,754
Speaker 9: see like, oh, I'm in someone's private sy like a

889
00:39:32,794 --> 00:39:36,913
Speaker 9: sponsor or something like that. And I look around and

890
00:39:36,953 --> 00:39:42,754
Speaker 9: I start seeing people in Girodmeo's jerseys. And then I

891
00:39:42,834 --> 00:39:46,074
Speaker 9: hear someone point out to me, oh, you have a camera,

892
00:39:46,154 --> 00:39:49,754
Speaker 9: you take pictures. I go, yeah, I do, and they go, oh,

893
00:39:49,794 --> 00:39:50,913
Speaker 9: can you take our pictures?

894
00:39:52,034 --> 00:39:52,874
Speaker 5: They don't have phone?

895
00:39:53,074 --> 00:39:56,474
Speaker 9: It was his daughter's. No, it was my actual camera.

896
00:39:56,594 --> 00:39:59,714
Speaker 5: No, I know, but like, okay, yeah, but everybody's got

897
00:39:59,714 --> 00:40:00,354
Speaker 5: a camera now?

898
00:40:01,554 --> 00:40:03,354
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, anyone who got the camera?

899
00:40:03,473 --> 00:40:03,633
Speaker 7: Now?

900
00:40:03,913 --> 00:40:05,794
Speaker 9: So they go in they take photos. I'm like yeah,

901
00:40:05,834 --> 00:40:10,674
Speaker 9: And apparently it was his daughter's birthday. So I was

902
00:40:10,754 --> 00:40:14,554
Speaker 9: hitting shooncause of the entire family on my camera.

903
00:40:15,953 --> 00:40:18,754
Speaker 5: And did you share them with them? And like they

904
00:40:18,994 --> 00:40:20,113
Speaker 5: you know, yes, I.

905
00:40:19,994 --> 00:40:23,474
Speaker 9: Did, so I grabbed one of the cousins or nephew's

906
00:40:23,634 --> 00:40:26,473
Speaker 9: Instagram and I shared, so I have photos of their

907
00:40:26,594 --> 00:40:27,114
Speaker 9: entire family.

908
00:40:27,114 --> 00:40:29,234
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh wow, said to them.

909
00:40:29,194 --> 00:40:35,114
Speaker 9: On Instagram after and halfway through that, Nikovich just shows up.

910
00:40:36,274 --> 00:40:41,274
Speaker 5: Is this a dream or did this really happen? Okay,

911
00:40:41,594 --> 00:40:45,993
Speaker 5: I don't need Okay, I believe you. Yeah. Is there

912
00:40:45,994 --> 00:40:46,834
Speaker 5: a payoff for this?

913
00:40:51,114 --> 00:40:51,354
Speaker 1: Okay?

914
00:40:51,473 --> 00:40:54,154
Speaker 9: Great experience? And then I ended up going leaving the

915
00:40:54,194 --> 00:40:56,873
Speaker 9: stadium a great experience, didn't.

916
00:40:57,514 --> 00:41:00,154
Speaker 6: I thank you.

917
00:41:00,154 --> 00:41:02,913
Speaker 5: We'll have to opsecurity. Thanks for the thanks for the tip,

918
00:41:02,913 --> 00:41:04,274
Speaker 5: and I'm glad you had a good time.

919
00:41:04,354 --> 00:41:06,194
Speaker 7: At least the prison admission was worth it.

920
00:41:06,274 --> 00:41:10,114
Speaker 5: And that was with the may That is a cool story,

921
00:41:11,674 --> 00:41:12,754
Speaker 5: but kind of weird.

922
00:41:13,314 --> 00:41:15,473
Speaker 8: Yeah, where's the prime ribat and there's no prime ry.

923
00:41:16,393 --> 00:41:18,953
Speaker 1: I look forward to I'll be arriving on Sunday and

924
00:41:18,994 --> 00:41:21,234
Speaker 1: if I'm not in the right door when I come in,

925
00:41:23,433 --> 00:41:28,994
Speaker 1: and this guy evidently just allowed to.

926
00:41:27,194 --> 00:41:28,993
Speaker 7: Fake it till you make it. You know, you look

927
00:41:29,114 --> 00:41:29,513
Speaker 7: like you.

928
00:41:29,433 --> 00:41:31,953
Speaker 5: Belong because when he started the story, he said he

929
00:41:32,034 --> 00:41:33,314
Speaker 5: ended up in the suite, but he was in the

930
00:41:33,393 --> 00:41:36,194
Speaker 5: hundred level, and I just I'm thinking to myself, how'd

931
00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:39,354
Speaker 5: you get up there? Because there's no direct access for

932
00:41:39,433 --> 00:41:41,873
Speaker 5: even if you like go to the three hundred, you

933
00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:44,714
Speaker 5: can't just walk into the suite area. But I think

934
00:41:44,754 --> 00:41:48,234
Speaker 5: what happened is he was in the GPA rim and

935
00:41:48,274 --> 00:41:51,234
Speaker 5: they had those you can get access from there. Yeah,

936
00:41:51,314 --> 00:41:53,634
Speaker 5: and I think he hooked up, but he shouldn't even anyway.

937
00:41:53,794 --> 00:41:54,834
Speaker 5: Good for him.

938
00:41:54,634 --> 00:41:57,074
Speaker 7: Imagine you're just like looking around and you see a

939
00:41:57,154 --> 00:42:00,354
Speaker 7: kid and you're like, wow, that young boy has Gmeo's face.

940
00:42:01,114 --> 00:42:03,153
Speaker 1: He always got his jerseys too. Jeez.

941
00:42:03,194 --> 00:42:04,914
Speaker 8: I wonder what that sweet was like during your birthday.

942
00:42:04,953 --> 00:42:05,953
Speaker 8: And I hope they're having fun.

943
00:42:06,473 --> 00:42:08,834
Speaker 5: Uh, Patty's an agawam, what's up? Patty?

944
00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:11,794
Speaker 9: Hey, good afternoon everyone.

945
00:42:11,794 --> 00:42:12,993
Speaker 10: I finally sobered.

946
00:42:12,674 --> 00:42:18,473
Speaker 6: Up from the New Year's okay home mind, So I just.

947
00:42:18,473 --> 00:42:22,553
Speaker 10: Kind of wanted to get into the whole, the whole

948
00:42:22,594 --> 00:42:26,033
Speaker 10: coaching coaching staff and how I felt about how I

949
00:42:26,074 --> 00:42:29,513
Speaker 10: felt about it after the bye and I listened to

950
00:42:29,554 --> 00:42:32,794
Speaker 10: a Tom Kerr's podcast, No Sense Pready with Brian Hoyer,

951
00:42:32,873 --> 00:42:34,393
Speaker 10: and he was kind of making a case of bringing

952
00:42:34,473 --> 00:42:38,593
Speaker 10: him back. But I don't know, man, Like, after I

953
00:42:38,594 --> 00:42:42,634
Speaker 10: saw what they did in Arizona and just the compete

954
00:42:42,714 --> 00:42:45,194
Speaker 10: level that they had that day and from this past week,

955
00:42:45,433 --> 00:42:48,194
Speaker 10: I don't know how you bring the guy back. And

956
00:42:48,234 --> 00:42:51,513
Speaker 10: it sucks, it's unfortunate, but I think if there's you know,

957
00:42:51,714 --> 00:42:53,754
Speaker 10: Rabel's really out there and you got a chance to

958
00:42:53,754 --> 00:42:56,234
Speaker 10: get him, I would go and try and get him.

959
00:42:56,274 --> 00:42:59,354
Speaker 10: And Freddy's what kind of triggered this for me was

960
00:42:59,354 --> 00:43:01,953
Speaker 10: what you said on the postgame show, how Mayo has

961
00:43:02,034 --> 00:43:05,394
Speaker 10: no network, Like if we move on from these coordinators,

962
00:43:05,794 --> 00:43:08,113
Speaker 10: who the hell are we picking? Like, who's gonna come here?

963
00:43:08,154 --> 00:43:10,354
Speaker 10: How many friggin' interviews are we going to have for

964
00:43:10,393 --> 00:43:11,474
Speaker 10: each coordinator position?

965
00:43:11,754 --> 00:43:15,154
Speaker 5: I know, and while you're doing that, who's thinking about

966
00:43:15,154 --> 00:43:16,834
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five right now?

967
00:43:16,834 --> 00:43:20,593
Speaker 9: I hear you, you know, so I just I mean,

968
00:43:20,594 --> 00:43:22,034
Speaker 9: if I think if he's there and he got a

969
00:43:22,114 --> 00:43:24,674
Speaker 9: chance to get him, I would just say, you know,

970
00:43:24,754 --> 00:43:25,194
Speaker 9: go through.

971
00:43:25,074 --> 00:43:28,034
Speaker 10: The process, do what you didn't do this last cycle.

972
00:43:28,234 --> 00:43:31,314
Speaker 10: I'm interview some candidates and I mean, if he's the

973
00:43:31,354 --> 00:43:33,193
Speaker 10: one that you want to land on, land on because

974
00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:36,354
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Like I love Gerard as a player. I

975
00:43:36,393 --> 00:43:38,393
Speaker 10: was really excited to see what he could do this year.

976
00:43:38,473 --> 00:43:41,354
Speaker 10: But after the bye, he just he lost me. And

977
00:43:41,393 --> 00:43:43,274
Speaker 10: I'm sure there's a lot of other fans out there

978
00:43:43,314 --> 00:43:43,553
Speaker 10: like me.

979
00:43:43,714 --> 00:43:47,473
Speaker 5: That's all I got, guys, No thanks, listen. I have

980
00:43:47,554 --> 00:43:52,714
Speaker 5: to be honest. I see the emails and usually you know,

981
00:43:52,754 --> 00:43:55,354
Speaker 5: we've had these type of debates before, not really getting

982
00:43:55,393 --> 00:43:57,754
Speaker 5: rid of coaches. But I think, you know, I think

983
00:43:57,794 --> 00:44:00,074
Speaker 5: we might have had Remember we did the polls in

984
00:44:00,114 --> 00:44:02,674
Speaker 5: the past. I forget what the subject matter was, but

985
00:44:02,714 --> 00:44:03,474
Speaker 5: it was important.

986
00:44:03,514 --> 00:44:07,234
Speaker 1: Stuff was yeah, like I don't know if we would

987
00:44:07,234 --> 00:44:08,474
Speaker 1: have done something like that.

988
00:44:08,473 --> 00:44:10,754
Speaker 5: No, but it was. It was like half and half.

989
00:44:10,834 --> 00:44:13,114
Speaker 5: But all the emails I'm getting right.

990
00:44:12,994 --> 00:44:17,594
Speaker 1: Now are move on. I mean we talked about the

991
00:44:18,234 --> 00:44:20,834
Speaker 1: you know, like the radio station like NBC Sports Boston

992
00:44:20,873 --> 00:44:23,354
Speaker 1: had one about a month ago, e I had one

993
00:44:23,433 --> 00:44:26,633
Speaker 1: last week. It's like ninety something single digits. I know,

994
00:44:27,234 --> 00:44:29,834
Speaker 1: move on, blow it up, you know, whatever however you

995
00:44:29,834 --> 00:44:31,594
Speaker 1: want to classify.

996
00:44:31,074 --> 00:44:32,553
Speaker 8: It's the hard thing too, is he has, you know,

997
00:44:32,674 --> 00:44:34,714
Speaker 8: just no bat previous experience. So I think even with

998
00:44:34,794 --> 00:44:36,754
Speaker 8: somebody like Alex van Pelt, you can at least look

999
00:44:36,754 --> 00:44:38,234
Speaker 8: to some of the things he's done in the past

1000
00:44:38,274 --> 00:44:40,673
Speaker 8: and say, you know, there is evidence before that he's

1001
00:44:40,714 --> 00:44:42,873
Speaker 8: you know, pulled performances out of people, and you know,

1002
00:44:42,913 --> 00:44:45,274
Speaker 8: so there's just Gerard had a really hard task this

1003
00:44:45,354 --> 00:44:47,754
Speaker 8: year and like, you know, not only jumping into a

1004
00:44:47,754 --> 00:44:50,393
Speaker 8: head coaching position, but proving to everybody that he has

1005
00:44:50,393 --> 00:44:52,874
Speaker 8: some promise as a as a coach in charge of people.

1006
00:44:53,114 --> 00:44:53,913
Speaker 8: She he's never done before.

1007
00:44:54,034 --> 00:44:55,993
Speaker 5: You know what what I have a hard time with

1008
00:44:56,234 --> 00:44:58,154
Speaker 5: is when I get asked the question, and I got

1009
00:44:58,194 --> 00:45:01,513
Speaker 5: asked this morning by somebody, what would you do? I

1010
00:45:01,554 --> 00:45:05,873
Speaker 5: have a hard time answering it, you know, factually because

1011
00:45:05,913 --> 00:45:07,194
Speaker 5: I don't have the facts.

1012
00:45:07,354 --> 00:45:08,474
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before.

1013
00:45:08,554 --> 00:45:12,473
Speaker 5: I don't know how good these coaches are really and

1014
00:45:12,714 --> 00:45:15,114
Speaker 5: we know the product that they're putting out there, but

1015
00:45:15,274 --> 00:45:19,554
Speaker 5: is it the product of the roster bad coaching? Both

1016
00:45:20,433 --> 00:45:23,514
Speaker 5: we not have the practices, we're not in the meeting rooms,

1017
00:45:23,913 --> 00:45:26,714
Speaker 5: we don't know the communication. And I was saying, like

1018
00:45:26,754 --> 00:45:29,314
Speaker 5: if I was an owner and I know, like people

1019
00:45:29,354 --> 00:45:31,953
Speaker 5: will laugh at this, but when I'm sitting in my

1020
00:45:32,074 --> 00:45:34,834
Speaker 5: suite watching the game, I would have like a box

1021
00:45:34,994 --> 00:45:39,514
Speaker 5: underneath my seat with a wireless connection to a little headset,

1022
00:45:39,754 --> 00:45:42,154
Speaker 5: and I would listen to everything going on on game day.

1023
00:45:42,234 --> 00:45:45,074
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to talk have any input, but

1024
00:45:45,154 --> 00:45:48,674
Speaker 5: I'd want to hear all the communication that's happening on

1025
00:45:48,754 --> 00:45:52,674
Speaker 5: game day because if I'm the ultimate person that's making

1026
00:45:52,714 --> 00:45:56,314
Speaker 5: this decision as an owner, I need the information. I

1027
00:45:56,314 --> 00:45:58,234
Speaker 5: can't sit down with Gerard Mayo and say, Gerard do

1028
00:45:58,234 --> 00:46:00,234
Speaker 5: you think you should stay? I mean, what's he gonna say,

1029
00:46:00,554 --> 00:46:03,114
Speaker 5: Alex Vanpel do you think you should stay? Elliott Wolf?

1030
00:46:03,194 --> 00:46:04,394
Speaker 1: Do you think you did a good job?

1031
00:46:05,953 --> 00:46:09,193
Speaker 5: So I need to get some honest information. I don't

1032
00:46:09,234 --> 00:46:11,274
Speaker 5: have it, So it's hard for me to say, yeah,

1033
00:46:11,393 --> 00:46:14,074
Speaker 5: blow it up, you know, like a lot of fans do,

1034
00:46:14,194 --> 00:46:16,393
Speaker 5: which I don't blame him. I'm not saying that they

1035
00:46:16,754 --> 00:46:18,754
Speaker 5: don't have a right to say that, But it's just

1036
00:46:19,354 --> 00:46:21,433
Speaker 5: when you really sit down and you're the person who

1037
00:46:21,514 --> 00:46:23,834
Speaker 5: has to make that decision, you have to do it

1038
00:46:23,873 --> 00:46:28,153
Speaker 5: with information, you know. That's all I'm saying. That's why

1039
00:46:28,154 --> 00:46:30,473
Speaker 5: it's difficult. Plus we're dealing with human beings. I don't

1040
00:46:30,514 --> 00:46:32,274
Speaker 5: caval literally say fire this guy.

1041
00:46:32,514 --> 00:46:37,314
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's you know, that's really true. Like, I

1042
00:46:37,634 --> 00:46:40,114
Speaker 1: don't I've never felt comfortable doing that now. You know,

1043
00:46:40,154 --> 00:46:41,554
Speaker 1: if you ask me what I think, I'm going to

1044
00:46:41,594 --> 00:46:43,913
Speaker 1: tell you what I think. But it doesn't you know,

1045
00:46:43,953 --> 00:46:46,553
Speaker 1: there's a we were talking about this today. There's a

1046
00:46:46,594 --> 00:46:49,873
Speaker 1: local media member who didn't have his contract. We knew,

1047
00:46:49,953 --> 00:46:52,513
Speaker 1: and you'd have thought, like based on the comments of

1048
00:46:52,834 --> 00:46:55,073
Speaker 1: like these fans and whatnot, it was like the fourth

1049
00:46:55,114 --> 00:46:57,473
Speaker 1: of July, like this is the greatest day ever. This

1050
00:46:57,554 --> 00:47:00,393
Speaker 1: guy a guy who's out of a job, right, it's

1051
00:47:00,393 --> 00:47:02,674
Speaker 1: a human being. I don't know why it's such a

1052
00:47:02,714 --> 00:47:06,154
Speaker 1: cause for celebration, and I think that sometimes we lose

1053
00:47:06,194 --> 00:47:07,794
Speaker 1: sight of that when we talk, well, this guy's got

1054
00:47:07,794 --> 00:47:10,113
Speaker 1: to go, that guy should be fired. Yeah, yes, I think.

1055
00:47:10,314 --> 00:47:12,194
Speaker 1: You know, you can make an argument, like Fred said,

1056
00:47:12,314 --> 00:47:14,354
Speaker 1: I understand why the fans are thinking what they are,

1057
00:47:14,393 --> 00:47:16,434
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of things that I've questioned

1058
00:47:16,514 --> 00:47:18,513
Speaker 1: during the course of the season. It doesn't necessarily mean

1059
00:47:18,554 --> 00:47:21,354
Speaker 1: I'm going to revel in, you know, like Bill Belichick

1060
00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:24,394
Speaker 1: losing his job last year, Like that's not a cause

1061
00:47:24,393 --> 00:47:26,553
Speaker 1: for a celebration. I thought it was time that that

1062
00:47:26,634 --> 00:47:28,513
Speaker 1: he should go. We talked about it a lot of

1063
00:47:28,714 --> 00:47:31,234
Speaker 1: you know, toward the end of last year. I would

1064
00:47:31,234 --> 00:47:33,114
Speaker 1: have moved on. I think they made the right choice.

1065
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,674
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that you have to be excited about it, right.

1066
00:47:35,994 --> 00:47:45,553
Speaker 5: Right, Let's go to Dave and Tennessee. What's up Dave? Hey, Dave, Yeah, well,

1067
00:47:45,514 --> 00:47:46,074
Speaker 5: I'm clear.

1068
00:47:46,913 --> 00:47:49,113
Speaker 11: You know, I just think it was his first time

1069
00:47:49,114 --> 00:47:51,754
Speaker 11: in this position. He had no one to hold his hand.

1070
00:47:51,913 --> 00:47:55,154
Speaker 11: He's got to get experienced somehow. And uh, you know

1071
00:47:55,194 --> 00:47:57,033
Speaker 11: that's what your first year is for. You had no

1072
00:47:57,114 --> 00:47:59,153
Speaker 11: talent to work with, and it's like, we're just gonna

1073
00:47:59,194 --> 00:48:00,113
Speaker 11: run this study out of town.

1074
00:48:00,754 --> 00:48:03,953
Speaker 9: You know. It's like I thought Matt Patricia was going

1075
00:48:04,034 --> 00:48:04,194
Speaker 9: to be.

1076
00:48:04,154 --> 00:48:04,593
Speaker 11: A good OC.

1077
00:48:07,433 --> 00:48:09,394
Speaker 1: I was with you, you were you were a cast

1078
00:48:09,393 --> 00:48:10,993
Speaker 1: of two, Dave.

1079
00:48:11,074 --> 00:48:11,594
Speaker 5: I was with you.

1080
00:48:11,953 --> 00:48:17,154
Speaker 11: Liked stuff out Matt Patricia, and it's like, but Girodo

1081
00:48:17,314 --> 00:48:17,993
Speaker 11: just gets the past.

1082
00:48:19,234 --> 00:48:26,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that meant. Okay, so

1083
00:48:26,514 --> 00:48:28,393
Speaker 5: did he did he do a curveball on us at

1084
00:48:28,393 --> 00:48:32,354
Speaker 5: the end? I don't sounds like we wanted we wanted

1085
00:48:32,393 --> 00:48:33,913
Speaker 5: to get rid of Patricia.

1086
00:48:34,674 --> 00:48:37,033
Speaker 1: But yeah, and my thing about Patricia was that I

1087
00:48:37,114 --> 00:48:39,433
Speaker 1: just never felt like he had any expertise on the

1088
00:48:39,473 --> 00:48:41,314
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Like, if you wanted to

1089
00:48:41,314 --> 00:48:44,754
Speaker 1: put him back in a role on defense, fine, but

1090
00:48:45,314 --> 00:48:47,154
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just didn't understand the move to make

1091
00:48:47,194 --> 00:48:49,634
Speaker 1: him an offensive coordinators. That makes that a little bit different.

1092
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Speaker 5: Let's see Jordan is in London.

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00:48:54,154 --> 00:48:58,114
Speaker 6: Hey Jordan, Hello, everybody.

1094
00:48:58,594 --> 00:49:04,194
Speaker 5: Hello, Yes we can this is the BBC.

1095
00:49:07,473 --> 00:49:11,074
Speaker 9: I have a very fast guys.

1096
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Speaker 4: I think every truly quite.

1097
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Speaker 5: Holmes, Alan, I can hear you, but I don't Okay,

1098
00:49:31,514 --> 00:49:33,713
Speaker 5: I didn't quite. We didn't quite catch heard all.

1099
00:49:33,594 --> 00:49:37,194
Speaker 1: The names of the quarterback. That's what it sounds like.

1100
00:49:39,433 --> 00:49:44,913
Speaker 1: You're driving, you guys, drive on the wrong side over there.

1101
00:49:44,953 --> 00:49:45,834
Speaker 1: You need to pay attention.

1102
00:49:45,994 --> 00:49:51,073
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you buy Harrod's? Can you pick me up

1103
00:49:51,074 --> 00:49:54,953
Speaker 5: some tea? I'm sorry, Joan.

1104
00:49:54,994 --> 00:49:57,714
Speaker 1: When we're having a hard time understanding you because of

1105
00:49:57,754 --> 00:49:59,754
Speaker 1: the speaker, Yeah, I think.

1106
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Speaker 5: You're cutting in and out. I think good to hear

1107
00:50:01,913 --> 00:50:04,314
Speaker 5: from our friends in London are some of our best

1108
00:50:04,314 --> 00:50:04,873
Speaker 5: fans ever.

1109
00:50:05,514 --> 00:50:08,193
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you're not driving, email us what you said.

1110
00:50:08,393 --> 00:50:11,834
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, you can do voice voice voice, voice to

1111
00:50:12,234 --> 00:50:16,354
Speaker 5: voice to text. Scott san Diego writes, in at podcasts

1112
00:50:16,393 --> 00:50:19,393
Speaker 5: at Patriots dot com. Thanks for the much needed football

1113
00:50:19,473 --> 00:50:24,754
Speaker 5: therapy this season. I even enjoyed the secuitous Paul Fred

1114
00:50:24,794 --> 00:50:28,194
Speaker 5: what are we arguing about? Arguments? I see that ESPN's

1115
00:50:28,234 --> 00:50:31,073
Speaker 5: Bill Barnwell pick Gonzo is one of the top three

1116
00:50:31,154 --> 00:50:33,754
Speaker 5: cornerbacks in the NFL. That seems right to me. But

1117
00:50:33,834 --> 00:50:35,754
Speaker 5: he wasn't picked for the Pro Bowl. Do you think

1118
00:50:35,794 --> 00:50:37,114
Speaker 5: he deserves to be selected?

1119
00:50:37,674 --> 00:50:38,314
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

1120
00:50:38,473 --> 00:50:40,834
Speaker 8: Yeah he does. But I mean, I who got selected

1121
00:50:41,034 --> 00:50:43,473
Speaker 8: from the AFC, Nobody from Miami.

1122
00:50:44,034 --> 00:50:55,433
Speaker 1: Nobody from the Jets, Marlon Humphrey, Patrick Sirtan, Denzel Ward Ward. Yeah,

1123
00:50:55,473 --> 00:50:57,554
Speaker 1: that's what I can't think of what the other one

1124
00:50:58,834 --> 00:51:01,953
Speaker 1: I would have put Gonzales over Marlon Humphrey. Marlin Huffy

1125
00:51:01,994 --> 00:51:03,314
Speaker 1: is a terrific player, but I don't think he's had

1126
00:51:03,354 --> 00:51:03,794
Speaker 1: a great year.

1127
00:51:04,354 --> 00:51:06,754
Speaker 8: It feels like the Pro Bowl usual Stan.

1128
00:51:06,714 --> 00:51:11,274
Speaker 1: I think is arguably better than Gonzales. Denzel Ward I

1129
00:51:11,314 --> 00:51:13,314
Speaker 1: think has been hurt too. Like I like him as

1130
00:51:13,314 --> 00:51:14,714
Speaker 1: a player, he seems like he's in and out of

1131
00:51:14,714 --> 00:51:15,033
Speaker 1: the one.

1132
00:51:14,953 --> 00:51:16,873
Speaker 8: With the young players Pro Bowls a year behind, like

1133
00:51:17,473 --> 00:51:19,393
Speaker 8: you have your breakout year, like kind of almost I

1134
00:51:19,393 --> 00:51:21,794
Speaker 8: mean almost like schooler last year, you know, like kind

1135
00:51:21,794 --> 00:51:23,913
Speaker 8: of had that pump block last year, like kind of

1136
00:51:23,913 --> 00:51:25,834
Speaker 8: made a name for himself a little bit, and you know,

1137
00:51:25,873 --> 00:51:27,873
Speaker 8: fans get to recognize you and then the rest of

1138
00:51:27,873 --> 00:51:30,354
Speaker 8: the league two and I'm sure I bet you Conto

1139
00:51:30,393 --> 00:51:31,873
Speaker 8: makes it next year. He definitely deserves it.

1140
00:51:31,994 --> 00:51:35,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I think it's what

1141
00:51:35,314 --> 00:51:37,554
Speaker 5: you did the year before. Because the Pro Bowl voting

1142
00:51:37,953 --> 00:51:38,754
Speaker 5: when did they have it?

1143
00:51:38,834 --> 00:51:40,594
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, so it starts like middle of the seasons.

1144
00:51:40,754 --> 00:51:43,713
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, how much are you paying

1145
00:51:43,714 --> 00:51:46,354
Speaker 5: attention to like every other player in the league while

1146
00:51:46,393 --> 00:51:47,314
Speaker 5: the season is going on?

1147
00:51:47,754 --> 00:51:47,993
Speaker 1: You know.

1148
00:51:48,714 --> 00:51:53,794
Speaker 5: Anyway, So he'll get in next year along with Travis Hunter. Uh.

1149
00:51:53,994 --> 00:51:57,154
Speaker 1: Fred Sauce Gardner didn't get in in maybe he bounces

1150
00:51:57,194 --> 00:51:58,873
Speaker 1: back and it's another guy in your wife.

1151
00:51:59,314 --> 00:52:00,594
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't have he didn't have a good He

1152
00:52:00,594 --> 00:52:03,393
Speaker 5: didn't have a good true, Fred, which team would you

1153
00:52:03,433 --> 00:52:06,513
Speaker 5: want to win the Super Bowl? Between the Bengals, Bills,

1154
00:52:06,514 --> 00:52:12,194
Speaker 5: are Jets? You have to choose one. That's a tough one.

1155
00:52:12,234 --> 00:52:12,873
Speaker 8: I got those.

1156
00:52:13,034 --> 00:52:15,113
Speaker 5: That's a tough one. Who would I pick?

1157
00:52:15,873 --> 00:52:18,274
Speaker 1: It's an easy one for me, Bills.

1158
00:52:18,873 --> 00:52:20,433
Speaker 5: Mine would be the Jets.

1159
00:52:20,913 --> 00:52:21,513
Speaker 9: Wow.

1160
00:52:21,594 --> 00:52:22,794
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well you used to like him.

1161
00:52:22,873 --> 00:52:28,034
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I know, I just can't. I can't stomach Yeah,

1162
00:52:28,194 --> 00:52:31,314
Speaker 5: I can't stomach the Bengals winning and the Bills, Like

1163
00:52:31,354 --> 00:52:33,873
Speaker 5: I said, it would be against nature for them to wait.

1164
00:52:34,433 --> 00:52:36,513
Speaker 8: I get this, since he I do, I do really like.

1165
00:52:36,554 --> 00:52:38,834
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Jets are such a sorry franchise now.

1166
00:52:39,274 --> 00:52:41,834
Speaker 1: Is a personal thing. So I get that. But Buffalo,

1167
00:52:41,994 --> 00:52:45,433
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo be cool like nothing. But people, well

1168
00:52:45,514 --> 00:52:46,033
Speaker 1: that's the thing.

1169
00:52:46,074 --> 00:52:48,033
Speaker 5: But now if they win, now they can say, yeah,

1170
00:52:48,074 --> 00:52:50,834
Speaker 5: we won. Up until now we can say what if

1171
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:51,194
Speaker 5: you want?

1172
00:52:51,913 --> 00:52:54,153
Speaker 1: And I want to be able to keep for people

1173
00:52:54,194 --> 00:52:54,714
Speaker 1: to get fired.

1174
00:52:54,794 --> 00:52:58,553
Speaker 5: I need to keep that card in my dead I

1175
00:52:58,634 --> 00:53:00,993
Speaker 5: need to keep that card in my deck. I can't

1176
00:53:01,034 --> 00:53:01,354
Speaker 5: lose it.

1177
00:53:01,554 --> 00:53:06,154
Speaker 1: I keep that card in my boom. Shut up.

1178
00:53:06,594 --> 00:53:09,993
Speaker 5: Question for the group, who do we like for defensive coordinator?

1179
00:53:09,994 --> 00:53:12,354
Speaker 5: I'm sure we will move from Covington after the season.

1180
00:53:12,473 --> 00:53:15,473
Speaker 5: Would you like to see the Crafts bring back Brian Flores?

1181
00:53:15,873 --> 00:53:18,873
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I don't think that would happen, but sure, yeah,

1182
00:53:19,114 --> 00:53:21,473
Speaker 8: He's like, I.

1183
00:53:21,433 --> 00:53:23,714
Speaker 1: Don't ever rule these things out, but Brian Flores is

1184
00:53:23,754 --> 00:53:25,794
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for one of the very best teams

1185
00:53:25,834 --> 00:53:28,873
Speaker 1: in football. Why would he want to come to be

1186
00:53:28,873 --> 00:53:31,194
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for one of the very worst teams for.

1187
00:53:31,314 --> 00:53:33,274
Speaker 8: I mean, I think maybody wants to talk about if

1188
00:53:33,473 --> 00:53:35,073
Speaker 8: Mayor were to go. I mean, it's it's pretty much

1189
00:53:35,114 --> 00:53:38,954
Speaker 8: what Rabel and the Lions guy, I mean, right like that,

1190
00:53:38,953 --> 00:53:39,354
Speaker 8: that's it?

1191
00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:39,593
Speaker 5: Right?

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00:53:39,634 --> 00:53:42,074
Speaker 8: Who else have you heard mentioned? Is like a potential

1193
00:53:42,393 --> 00:53:44,033
Speaker 8: for a head job for head coach?

1194
00:53:44,354 --> 00:53:47,913
Speaker 1: Oh, like you know, I start going down the floor.

1195
00:53:48,074 --> 00:53:50,394
Speaker 1: Is I'm now going to talk about? Now? He wouldn't

1196
00:53:50,433 --> 00:53:52,593
Speaker 1: be my choice because I don't think he did nearly

1197
00:53:52,594 --> 00:53:54,633
Speaker 1: as good a job with the Dolphins as people think

1198
00:53:54,674 --> 00:53:56,314
Speaker 1: he did, and I think he was terrible with a

1199
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. Now maybe he's learned. Maybe you know, a

1200
00:53:59,994 --> 00:54:01,914
Speaker 1: lot of guys are much better the second time around.

1201
00:54:01,994 --> 00:54:04,993
Speaker 1: Maybe he'd have a better relationship with the young quarterback.

1202
00:54:05,194 --> 00:54:07,873
Speaker 1: But I've heard him, I've heard Rabel, I've heard Ben Johnson.

1203
00:54:08,034 --> 00:54:09,953
Speaker 8: You know it though, right like there's no one else

1204
00:54:09,994 --> 00:54:11,634
Speaker 8: that people really know a lot of.

1205
00:54:11,634 --> 00:54:13,913
Speaker 1: People, Yeah, in terms of clamoring because you want the

1206
00:54:13,953 --> 00:54:17,234
Speaker 1: offensive guy and right now, you know, would you be

1207
00:54:17,274 --> 00:54:20,994
Speaker 1: interested in Cliff Kingsbury did a great job in Washington

1208
00:54:21,154 --> 00:54:23,354
Speaker 1: and year one with a young quarterback with you know,

1209
00:54:23,473 --> 00:54:25,714
Speaker 1: I think most people didn't feel like he did job

1210
00:54:26,433 --> 00:54:27,514
Speaker 1: with Arizona.

1211
00:54:28,274 --> 00:54:31,073
Speaker 5: Brandon in Maine writes in as much as AVP has

1212
00:54:31,074 --> 00:54:34,033
Speaker 5: struggled at times to develop and improve the Patriots offense, really,

1213
00:54:34,114 --> 00:54:36,354
Speaker 5: how much better are they than the Matt Patricia year?

1214
00:54:36,794 --> 00:54:38,834
Speaker 5: I would bring him back for one more year. My

1215
00:54:38,953 --> 00:54:41,433
Speaker 5: reasoning he has the least amount of talent to work

1216
00:54:41,473 --> 00:54:44,153
Speaker 5: with in the NFL. We have the worst defensive line

1217
00:54:44,154 --> 00:54:47,154
Speaker 5: for running or passing by block win rate, I believe,

1218
00:54:47,514 --> 00:54:50,113
Speaker 5: and the wide receiver room was filled with children, as

1219
00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:53,913
Speaker 5: evidenced by their continued comments to the social media or

1220
00:54:53,953 --> 00:54:56,473
Speaker 5: on social media, and Kendrick barn still can't even line

1221
00:54:56,554 --> 00:54:59,834
Speaker 5: up properly. Drake May has grown and developed, which was

1222
00:54:59,873 --> 00:55:02,314
Speaker 5: the most important thing to happen for the team in franchise.

1223
00:55:02,354 --> 00:55:05,873
Speaker 5: He deserves credit for that. Lastly, it feels like he's

1224
00:55:05,913 --> 00:55:08,953
Speaker 5: the only coach who has truly held himself accountable. His

1225
00:55:09,114 --> 00:55:12,634
Speaker 5: media sessions actually sound like a professional football coach. Unlike

1226
00:55:12,674 --> 00:55:15,194
Speaker 5: the other top two coaches on the team. He's the

1227
00:55:15,234 --> 00:55:17,913
Speaker 5: professional adult in the room where it feels like that

1228
00:55:17,994 --> 00:55:20,913
Speaker 5: presence has been missing everywhere else. If there is any

1229
00:55:20,953 --> 00:55:23,394
Speaker 5: one of the three top coaches that I do believe

1230
00:55:23,714 --> 00:55:25,993
Speaker 5: has the chance to grow and approve next year. It's

1231
00:55:26,074 --> 00:55:29,034
Speaker 5: him and also deserves the chance to grow and improve

1232
00:55:29,074 --> 00:55:32,074
Speaker 5: in year two, and that is without considering the improvement

1233
00:55:32,114 --> 00:55:34,913
Speaker 5: that hopefully takes place with an infusion of talent on

1234
00:55:34,953 --> 00:55:38,354
Speaker 5: that side of the ball. So there's the yeah, Brandon's

1235
00:55:38,354 --> 00:55:39,434
Speaker 5: case to keep AVP.

1236
00:55:40,354 --> 00:55:40,914
Speaker 6: I agree.

1237
00:55:41,074 --> 00:55:43,633
Speaker 8: I just think that if they make AVP the one

1238
00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:45,993
Speaker 8: to walk the plank like that is not going to

1239
00:55:45,994 --> 00:55:49,794
Speaker 8: be received well by a large majority of people.

1240
00:55:49,994 --> 00:55:53,194
Speaker 7: And it shouldn't be like how if we see him

1241
00:55:53,433 --> 00:55:56,194
Speaker 7: the one out of everyone to get scapegoated, that gives

1242
00:55:56,234 --> 00:55:59,033
Speaker 7: me major questions about what's going on.

1243
00:55:58,994 --> 00:56:00,993
Speaker 1: With I feel like, if you want to make changes,

1244
00:56:01,674 --> 00:56:04,073
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I don't think that's changes. That's just like,

1245
00:56:04,154 --> 00:56:06,953
Speaker 1: you know, showing exactly the word that alex Is hues.

1246
00:56:07,354 --> 00:56:08,674
Speaker 1: It feels like a scapegoat to day.

1247
00:56:08,794 --> 00:56:12,914
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that point about the receiver room being all children,

1248
00:56:12,953 --> 00:56:16,634
Speaker 7: I think that's a great point that maybe people haven't looked.

1249
00:56:17,234 --> 00:56:18,914
Speaker 7: I don't know, I think it's been looked over a little.

1250
00:56:18,953 --> 00:56:21,593
Speaker 7: But just like the lack of like veteran presence on

1251
00:56:21,674 --> 00:56:25,433
Speaker 7: the off season, losing David Andrews this season was huge,

1252
00:56:25,794 --> 00:56:28,674
Speaker 7: the wide receiver room when Kendrick Bourne is your veteran.

1253
00:56:28,674 --> 00:56:32,674
Speaker 7: We love Kendrick, but like there's just like a little

1254
00:56:32,714 --> 00:56:36,394
Speaker 7: something missing there and they're so young there, the resolve

1255
00:56:36,554 --> 00:56:39,433
Speaker 7: just hasn't been there, and those it's really the tight

1256
00:56:39,514 --> 00:56:42,274
Speaker 7: end room. You have those two guys that are veterans

1257
00:56:42,314 --> 00:56:44,154
Speaker 7: that have been in the league a long time, and

1258
00:56:44,194 --> 00:56:46,354
Speaker 7: I think that's why the tight end room is so solid,

1259
00:56:46,393 --> 00:56:48,633
Speaker 7: and we just didn't have that with the receiver room.

1260
00:56:48,754 --> 00:56:51,154
Speaker 8: Yeah, Born had to have one today. They were asking me,

1261
00:56:51,154 --> 00:56:52,234
Speaker 8: you know, what do you want to work on on

1262
00:56:52,274 --> 00:56:53,953
Speaker 8: the off season, and so in my brain, I'm like,

1263
00:56:53,994 --> 00:56:55,873
Speaker 8: you know, just being mentally on it. And then when

1264
00:56:55,873 --> 00:56:58,354
Speaker 8: the playbook and stuff's like catching more deep balls. You know,

1265
00:56:58,354 --> 00:57:00,754
Speaker 8: it's a little hard to practice in the off season

1266
00:57:00,794 --> 00:57:02,794
Speaker 8: because you don't have the quarterback, but you know, tracking

1267
00:57:02,834 --> 00:57:04,754
Speaker 8: the ball, and you know, again that's what he wanted

1268
00:57:04,794 --> 00:57:05,194
Speaker 8: to work on.

1269
00:57:05,274 --> 00:57:07,513
Speaker 5: So, yeah, what it was, what did you think of

1270
00:57:07,514 --> 00:57:08,953
Speaker 5: the Penn State quarterback?

1271
00:57:10,034 --> 00:57:12,634
Speaker 1: So now this is an interesting one for the previous

1272
00:57:12,674 --> 00:57:15,234
Speaker 1: email before Mike got here about the class. Yeah, a

1273
00:57:15,274 --> 00:57:17,834
Speaker 1: lot of people think he would be a top ten pick,

1274
00:57:18,474 --> 00:57:21,153
Speaker 1: but he has already said he's going back to Penn State. Yeah,

1275
00:57:22,114 --> 00:57:24,514
Speaker 1: a lot of the quote unquote experts think that they're

1276
00:57:24,594 --> 00:57:27,474
Speaker 1: still room for him to change his mind. It's not

1277
00:57:27,514 --> 00:57:30,634
Speaker 1: like it's a binding moment. You know that he can't.

1278
00:57:30,674 --> 00:57:34,794
Speaker 1: He can't change his mind and make himself eligible for

1279
00:57:34,834 --> 00:57:38,794
Speaker 1: the draft. I don't love him, but he's got an arm.

1280
00:57:38,994 --> 00:57:41,194
Speaker 1: Like these guys talk about him like he would be

1281
00:57:41,234 --> 00:57:43,594
Speaker 1: a top ten picks and that that would help the Patriots.

1282
00:57:43,634 --> 00:57:46,474
Speaker 1: That would put three guys in the mix. And is

1283
00:57:46,514 --> 00:57:49,794
Speaker 1: there tight end in the draft. Yeah, he's unbelievable. Yeah,

1284
00:57:50,194 --> 00:57:55,674
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, Tyler Warren, Yeah, he's so So

1285
00:57:55,834 --> 00:57:57,914
Speaker 1: here's a good example, Fred, you can have scatterable in

1286
00:57:57,954 --> 00:58:00,874
Speaker 1: the back of your envelope. Tyler Warren is considered to

1287
00:58:00,874 --> 00:58:04,194
Speaker 1: be an excellent player, and he's unbelievably versatil least like

1288
00:58:05,474 --> 00:58:09,954
Speaker 1: he's played quarterbacks. He's snapped the ball on a touchdown catch,

1289
00:58:10,034 --> 00:58:13,314
Speaker 1: He's actually snapped the ball on a play. He does

1290
00:58:13,314 --> 00:58:15,074
Speaker 1: a lot of different things for that team. He's a

1291
00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:15,594
Speaker 1: good player.

1292
00:58:15,754 --> 00:58:17,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan and.

1293
00:58:17,434 --> 00:58:20,594
Speaker 1: Everett, you know Dan, I know some Dan's and effort.

1294
00:58:20,714 --> 00:58:23,874
Speaker 5: Yeah. In regards to the draft, given all the needs

1295
00:58:23,914 --> 00:58:26,314
Speaker 5: this team has, my opinion of who I want to

1296
00:58:26,394 --> 00:58:30,914
Speaker 5: draft probably changes daily today I'm leaning towards edge. My

1297
00:58:31,034 --> 00:58:33,834
Speaker 5: understanding is that Abdul Carter is the top rated prospect.

1298
00:58:33,834 --> 00:58:35,874
Speaker 5: Does he have the potential to be a game wrecker

1299
00:58:35,994 --> 00:58:38,514
Speaker 5: at the position? I love the idea of trying to

1300
00:58:38,554 --> 00:58:41,274
Speaker 5: get out to early leads to force teams into throwing

1301
00:58:41,354 --> 00:58:44,074
Speaker 5: more so that the pass rush can tee off.

1302
00:58:45,114 --> 00:58:45,274
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1303
00:58:45,354 --> 00:58:47,474
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he didn't get a chance to really play this

1304
00:58:47,554 --> 00:58:50,914
Speaker 5: week yesterday because he got hurt or two days ago.

1305
00:58:51,234 --> 00:58:52,674
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he didn't.

1306
00:58:52,474 --> 00:58:54,794
Speaker 5: Play the game. But I guess up until the point

1307
00:58:54,794 --> 00:58:55,594
Speaker 5: he got hurt, he was.

1308
00:58:56,234 --> 00:58:56,994
Speaker 1: He's a great player.

1309
00:58:57,034 --> 00:58:57,194
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1310
00:58:57,234 --> 00:58:58,954
Speaker 8: I mean, following Evan on Twitter, it seems like Evan's

1311
00:58:58,954 --> 00:59:00,514
Speaker 8: coming around on him a little bit over the last

1312
00:59:00,514 --> 00:59:02,633
Speaker 8: couple of days. But I mean, I just you got

1313
00:59:02,634 --> 00:59:04,594
Speaker 8: to acknowledge the need at edge, and I think you know,

1314
00:59:04,634 --> 00:59:06,914
Speaker 8: I mean, we talked about it on the show on Tuesday.

1315
00:59:07,394 --> 00:59:08,914
Speaker 8: It's a huge need. Like I mean, you just you

1316
00:59:08,914 --> 00:59:11,274
Speaker 8: talk about the key positions. They looks like they got

1317
00:59:11,354 --> 00:59:13,794
Speaker 8: quarterback in cornerback for now to like kind of start

1318
00:59:13,834 --> 00:59:17,754
Speaker 8: with left tackle, wide receiver, defensive end, a legit pass rusher,

1319
00:59:17,874 --> 00:59:19,234
Speaker 8: somebody off the edge. And I mean, I don't know

1320
00:59:19,234 --> 00:59:22,154
Speaker 8: if he's the three down guy, But he moves like crazy.

1321
00:59:22,194 --> 00:59:25,194
Speaker 8: I mean, he's just super athlete, super explosive. He's a

1322
00:59:25,314 --> 00:59:28,074
Speaker 8: problem for anybody, you know, and you just hope is

1323
00:59:28,114 --> 00:59:29,634
Speaker 8: like a former off the ball guy that you know

1324
00:59:29,674 --> 00:59:31,554
Speaker 8: he can round his game out and can bring But

1325
00:59:31,634 --> 00:59:33,954
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's the game's one on third down,

1326
00:59:34,034 --> 00:59:37,674
Speaker 8: So I think there's something definitely to consider with him.

1327
00:59:37,794 --> 00:59:41,914
Speaker 5: Let's see, who is this ed right sin from Tallahassee.

1328
00:59:42,554 --> 00:59:45,994
Speaker 5: Where did the Patriots begin to create an identity? Is

1329
00:59:45,994 --> 00:59:49,234
Speaker 5: it a defensive ID or an offensive ID? The most

1330
00:59:49,234 --> 00:59:51,634
Speaker 5: ominous thing that happened in twenty twenty four is that

1331
00:59:51,674 --> 00:59:55,274
Speaker 5: the Patriots D has regressed. We don't challenge either on

1332
00:59:55,314 --> 00:59:58,034
Speaker 5: the road or at home for twenty twenty five. I

1333
00:59:58,034 --> 01:00:00,514
Speaker 5: think we first have to lean into building a defense

1334
01:00:00,954 --> 01:00:03,874
Speaker 5: that can compete in the AFC East. And that is

1335
01:00:03,914 --> 01:00:06,754
Speaker 5: as good a reason to draft Travis Hunter number one

1336
01:00:06,794 --> 01:00:10,954
Speaker 5: as any yeah can.

1337
01:00:11,834 --> 01:00:15,914
Speaker 1: I've exhausted my thoughts on the defense regression of the D.

1338
01:00:15,994 --> 01:00:18,514
Speaker 5: If you had to rate twenty twenty four biggest surprise

1339
01:00:18,874 --> 01:00:21,714
Speaker 5: with the Patriots, wouldn't the regression of the defense be

1340
01:00:21,794 --> 01:00:22,714
Speaker 5: one of them?

1341
01:00:23,194 --> 01:00:25,034
Speaker 8: I would say more of the collapse of the defense

1342
01:00:25,274 --> 01:00:27,314
Speaker 8: of just or whatever, the bottom of the league. I mean,

1343
01:00:27,354 --> 01:00:29,314
Speaker 8: you know that it was that bad, you know, I'm

1344
01:00:29,314 --> 01:00:31,234
Speaker 8: sure you know. I mean we can debate how good

1345
01:00:31,314 --> 01:00:33,034
Speaker 8: or bad they were. Maybe you say they're middle. Even

1346
01:00:33,034 --> 01:00:34,314
Speaker 8: if you said they were middle of league. They're the

1347
01:00:34,354 --> 01:00:35,834
Speaker 8: worst defense in the league this year, I mean they

1348
01:00:35,834 --> 01:00:36,634
Speaker 8: are bottom.

1349
01:00:36,354 --> 01:00:39,633
Speaker 1: Maybe everything, maybe run defense in particular. Yeah, I mean,

1350
01:00:40,474 --> 01:00:42,914
Speaker 1: but if you also said that, you know, barb More

1351
01:00:42,954 --> 01:00:44,514
Speaker 1: and Judon are not going to be part of it.

1352
01:00:44,634 --> 01:00:49,074
Speaker 1: I think people just sort of overlooked that, Like the

1353
01:00:49,114 --> 01:00:51,994
Speaker 1: best player on defense because he didn't play the last

1354
01:00:52,034 --> 01:00:54,874
Speaker 1: twelve games last year, you know, you trade him. I

1355
01:00:54,874 --> 01:00:57,314
Speaker 1: think it's it's different than losing a guy from injury.

1356
01:00:57,674 --> 01:01:00,314
Speaker 1: Trading him before the season, I think, and I think

1357
01:01:00,314 --> 01:01:02,794
Speaker 1: it was a good trade. I'm not criticizing the move.

1358
01:01:02,794 --> 01:01:05,674
Speaker 1: That's probably the best move Elliot Wolf has made. Is

1359
01:01:05,714 --> 01:01:07,874
Speaker 1: that trade. You're getting a third round pick for a

1360
01:01:07,914 --> 01:01:11,633
Speaker 1: thirty whatever year old edge rusher, I think is a good,

1361
01:01:11,674 --> 01:01:12,314
Speaker 1: solid trade.

1362
01:01:12,394 --> 01:01:14,234
Speaker 8: Yep, especially when they losing the two guys you talk

1363
01:01:14,274 --> 01:01:16,234
Speaker 8: are such an important element of the defense. I mean

1364
01:01:16,234 --> 01:01:17,834
Speaker 8: the pass rush. Like you want to talk about, oh

1365
01:01:17,874 --> 01:01:20,754
Speaker 8: we lost you know Godshaw, Let's just say like, yeah, well,

1366
01:01:20,834 --> 01:01:22,274
Speaker 8: figure you hope you can figure out a way to

1367
01:01:22,274 --> 01:01:22,754
Speaker 8: stop the run.

1368
01:01:22,834 --> 01:01:24,593
Speaker 1: To Mike's point, going from the middle of the pack

1369
01:01:24,634 --> 01:01:29,234
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the pack. Yeah, that's probably, you know, surprising,

1370
01:01:29,674 --> 01:01:31,634
Speaker 1: like just I have to be honest, Like, to me,

1371
01:01:31,674 --> 01:01:35,714
Speaker 1: it's mildly surprising. Okay, they played pretty much all teams

1372
01:01:35,714 --> 01:01:37,514
Speaker 1: that can play this year as opposed to half a scene.

1373
01:01:37,594 --> 01:01:40,034
Speaker 5: So what would you your biggest possibly like.

1374
01:01:39,954 --> 01:01:42,634
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks I'm talking about, not necessarily.

1375
01:01:42,194 --> 01:01:44,153
Speaker 5: What would your biggest surprise of twenty twelve.

1376
01:01:44,234 --> 01:01:47,154
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was terribly surprised. Maybe the

1377
01:01:47,234 --> 01:01:49,754
Speaker 1: fact that Drake May was able to play the rest

1378
01:01:49,754 --> 01:01:51,914
Speaker 1: of the guy I figured for sure, like young quarterbacks

1379
01:01:52,314 --> 01:01:55,634
Speaker 1: gonna get hit a lot, probably gonna miss time. Maybe that.

1380
01:01:57,674 --> 01:02:00,434
Speaker 8: I mean surprise. I'm not trying to think.

1381
01:02:00,474 --> 01:02:02,354
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds terribly negative.

1382
01:02:02,354 --> 01:02:02,474
Speaker 9: Me.

1383
01:02:02,514 --> 01:02:04,794
Speaker 1: I'm not overly surprised by anything. And Fred I thought

1384
01:02:04,794 --> 01:02:07,154
Speaker 1: illustrated this in the post game show after the Chargers

1385
01:02:07,194 --> 01:02:09,593
Speaker 1: game when you said, you know, I don't know what

1386
01:02:09,634 --> 01:02:10,954
Speaker 1: people were expecting today.

1387
01:02:11,034 --> 01:02:13,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think with the Patriots, other than

1388
01:02:13,834 --> 01:02:17,034
Speaker 5: the defense collapse, I think I was most surprised at

1389
01:02:17,034 --> 01:02:21,474
Speaker 5: the off field performance of girod I like, like, I

1390
01:02:21,594 --> 01:02:23,354
Speaker 5: just like Paul just said, I didn't think the team

1391
01:02:23,434 --> 01:02:26,394
Speaker 5: was gonna be good. Yeah, I like, that doesn't bother me.

1392
01:02:26,914 --> 01:02:30,514
Speaker 5: But I was surprised that off field he was as.

1393
01:02:32,074 --> 01:02:34,794
Speaker 1: And how it didn't really change. It never really seemed

1394
01:02:34,794 --> 01:02:37,434
Speaker 1: to improve and get better both on and off the field.

1395
01:02:37,514 --> 01:02:40,794
Speaker 1: Maybe that part of it, even, you know, like we've

1396
01:02:40,794 --> 01:02:43,194
Speaker 1: talked about Carolina a lot this year, people have talked

1397
01:02:43,194 --> 01:02:46,314
Speaker 1: incessantly about year one of the Dan Campbell era, and

1398
01:02:46,714 --> 01:02:50,154
Speaker 1: in Detroit, we didn't see that here. You know, like

1399
01:02:50,234 --> 01:02:52,954
Speaker 1: most bad teams tend to say, Okay, we're bad, but

1400
01:02:52,954 --> 01:02:55,234
Speaker 1: we're going to get better and we're going to show

1401
01:02:55,234 --> 01:02:57,354
Speaker 1: you some signs that it's not always going to be

1402
01:02:57,394 --> 01:02:59,034
Speaker 1: gloom and doom. We didn't get those.

1403
01:02:59,194 --> 01:02:59,394
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1404
01:02:59,514 --> 01:03:00,034
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the.

1405
01:03:00,034 --> 01:03:03,554
Speaker 8: Biggest thing too for me, defensively, looking at the coaches

1406
01:03:03,554 --> 01:03:06,554
Speaker 8: they kept and Mayo being a defensive guy and Covington

1407
01:03:06,634 --> 01:03:08,834
Speaker 8: being a guy who's been around, like, you know, I

1408
01:03:08,914 --> 01:03:10,834
Speaker 8: kind of bought into what they told me this summer,

1409
01:03:10,874 --> 01:03:12,554
Speaker 8: which you know, and judea On left and they said, well,

1410
01:03:12,554 --> 01:03:15,034
Speaker 8: you know, we've had years without pass rushers and we've

1411
01:03:15,074 --> 01:03:17,194
Speaker 8: been able to kind of scheme around it and you know,

1412
01:03:17,674 --> 01:03:20,034
Speaker 8: it's probably on me for buying that, but I just

1413
01:03:20,074 --> 01:03:22,154
Speaker 8: didn't see that was the one thing you were kind

1414
01:03:22,154 --> 01:03:23,954
Speaker 8: of hoping and you had to count on, was that

1415
01:03:24,074 --> 01:03:26,474
Speaker 8: you've got some continuity with the defense and that they're

1416
01:03:26,474 --> 01:03:27,514
Speaker 8: going to at least be solid.

1417
01:03:27,674 --> 01:03:30,593
Speaker 5: But we did say in the off season, don't underestimate

1418
01:03:30,634 --> 01:03:33,434
Speaker 5: the loss of Bill Belichick, and see Belichick.

1419
01:03:32,954 --> 01:03:33,234
Speaker 1: We did.

1420
01:03:33,394 --> 01:03:35,874
Speaker 5: I mean that there has to be a drop off.

1421
01:03:36,154 --> 01:03:37,954
Speaker 5: I just didn't think it would be so severe.

1422
01:03:38,074 --> 01:03:40,714
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, that's the thing that surprised everyone. And

1423
01:03:40,914 --> 01:03:43,714
Speaker 7: just like that defensive group had been together for a

1424
01:03:43,754 --> 01:03:47,154
Speaker 7: while with Judaan and then even Lawrence guy who they

1425
01:03:47,274 --> 01:03:49,154
Speaker 7: caught at the end of last year, like who's not

1426
01:03:49,394 --> 01:03:52,074
Speaker 7: a huge piece, but when you put it all.

1427
01:03:51,874 --> 01:03:55,034
Speaker 5: Together, you put it all together, you expected him to

1428
01:03:55,034 --> 01:03:57,794
Speaker 5: come back. But you lose bomb War, you'll lose Bentley

1429
01:03:57,874 --> 01:03:58,714
Speaker 5: up the middle.

1430
01:03:58,474 --> 01:04:00,074
Speaker 7: And then you have this staff that's a lot of

1431
01:04:00,354 --> 01:04:03,714
Speaker 7: Bill guys kind of still remaining. So it's still the

1432
01:04:04,834 --> 01:04:07,834
Speaker 7: you still have those shades of Bill without just that

1433
01:04:07,954 --> 01:04:10,554
Speaker 7: huge gap that you have to make up for in

1434
01:04:10,954 --> 01:04:14,834
Speaker 7: like just institutional knowledge of the NFL, the organization that

1435
01:04:14,914 --> 01:04:16,114
Speaker 7: Steve also accumulated.

1436
01:04:17,194 --> 01:04:19,314
Speaker 5: So this is the part when we talk about who

1437
01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:22,954
Speaker 5: should stay and who should go that you say all

1438
01:04:22,954 --> 01:04:25,994
Speaker 5: these things, Well, they had all these losses and all

1439
01:04:26,034 --> 01:04:31,394
Speaker 5: that stuff. So are we able to fairly judge DeMarcus

1440
01:04:31,434 --> 01:04:34,954
Speaker 5: Covington based on just what we see on Sunday?

1441
01:04:35,074 --> 01:04:37,794
Speaker 1: See, I'm not judging any of the coaches on the

1442
01:04:37,874 --> 01:04:41,994
Speaker 1: actual performance. I'm judging the coaches on the level of preparation,

1443
01:04:42,514 --> 01:04:44,874
Speaker 1: the level of adjustments, the level of improvement. And I

1444
01:04:44,954 --> 01:04:46,954
Speaker 1: just didn't see it enough of enough of it on

1445
01:04:47,034 --> 01:04:47,914
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball.

1446
01:04:48,034 --> 01:04:48,274
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1447
01:04:48,634 --> 01:04:51,314
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm talking about. Like to your point

1448
01:04:51,314 --> 01:04:53,794
Speaker 1: that we keep getting back to, I think the Vegas

1449
01:04:53,794 --> 01:04:56,194
Speaker 1: over under was four and a half. It was so

1450
01:04:56,994 --> 01:04:58,674
Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone can sit here and be

1451
01:04:58,754 --> 01:05:00,474
Speaker 1: up in arms that they only have three wins.

1452
01:05:00,674 --> 01:05:02,474
Speaker 8: Yeah right, Yeah, But.

1453
01:05:03,314 --> 01:05:06,314
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean that everything was great in terms

1454
01:05:06,354 --> 01:05:08,834
Speaker 1: of the coach. Just because you don't have any talent

1455
01:05:08,874 --> 01:05:11,914
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't do things to scheme it up

1456
01:05:12,154 --> 01:05:14,234
Speaker 1: and play better than your talent. And I didn't see that.

1457
01:05:14,434 --> 01:05:17,274
Speaker 8: No, that's totally apt, And you know, I think that's

1458
01:05:17,274 --> 01:05:18,834
Speaker 8: what I said on one of the other shows, was

1459
01:05:18,874 --> 01:05:21,714
Speaker 8: like there is a mental shift for me for thinking like, well,

1460
01:05:21,714 --> 01:05:23,954
Speaker 8: maybe they can win six too. They're winning three, and

1461
01:05:23,994 --> 01:05:24,954
Speaker 8: how did he get to three?

1462
01:05:25,274 --> 01:05:27,354
Speaker 1: I can pretty much identify the time because there were

1463
01:05:27,434 --> 01:05:29,754
Speaker 1: days that that Mike was when you guys were on

1464
01:05:29,794 --> 01:05:32,034
Speaker 1: the road and I'm left to pick up the pieces

1465
01:05:32,074 --> 01:05:32,714
Speaker 1: by myself.

1466
01:05:33,074 --> 01:05:34,274
Speaker 8: Don't do it, Mike, don't do it.

1467
01:05:34,314 --> 01:05:35,794
Speaker 1: There are some dark days for Deuce.

1468
01:05:37,154 --> 01:05:42,114
Speaker 5: As one email is said on Tuesday, a lot of sentences,

1469
01:05:42,354 --> 01:05:48,474
Speaker 5: I just feel like I just I just feel like, yeah, yeah, watch.

1470
01:05:49,914 --> 01:05:52,074
Speaker 1: You think they've got to do something with the draft

1471
01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:55,314
Speaker 1: eligibility rule there. You know, like you have like Jeremiah

1472
01:05:55,314 --> 01:05:58,874
Speaker 1: Smith and Ryan Williams who will be starting for how

1473
01:05:58,874 --> 01:06:00,874
Speaker 1: many teams? Right if they were eligible?

1474
01:06:01,834 --> 01:06:02,914
Speaker 5: Is that the seventeen year.

1475
01:06:02,754 --> 01:06:06,554
Speaker 1: Old Yeah, he's at Alabama. Jeremiah Smith just absolutely dominated

1476
01:06:06,554 --> 01:06:11,314
Speaker 1: the game yesterday. He just turned nineteen. But they're not

1477
01:06:11,394 --> 01:06:14,713
Speaker 1: eligible for the drafty they just start, Oh my god,

1478
01:06:15,074 --> 01:06:16,874
Speaker 1: they'd start for half the teams.

1479
01:06:17,594 --> 01:06:21,113
Speaker 5: So you know, you talk about that in going back

1480
01:06:21,114 --> 01:06:24,554
Speaker 5: to this Penn State quarterback, maybe when you know the

1481
01:06:24,594 --> 01:06:27,874
Speaker 5: businesses is vision is to declare for the draft because

1482
01:06:27,914 --> 01:06:29,314
Speaker 5: you can say, oh, he's going to stay in because

1483
01:06:29,314 --> 01:06:30,994
Speaker 5: he's going to make a boatload with n I l

1484
01:06:31,114 --> 01:06:33,754
Speaker 5: but if there's a week a year to be the quarterback,

1485
01:06:33,874 --> 01:06:35,074
Speaker 5: this might be the year.

1486
01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:38,034
Speaker 8: Right, you know some of the consider I mean, I've

1487
01:06:38,074 --> 01:06:40,234
Speaker 8: only seen a little bit of him, but it seems like, uh,

1488
01:06:40,394 --> 01:06:41,994
Speaker 8: you know, Paul, you probably watched more of him, But

1489
01:06:41,994 --> 01:06:44,714
Speaker 8: it seems like he's pretty efficient and pretty safe with

1490
01:06:44,754 --> 01:06:45,434
Speaker 8: the ball generally.

1491
01:06:45,514 --> 01:06:47,394
Speaker 1: That's let's I think.

1492
01:06:47,194 --> 01:06:48,194
Speaker 5: He's got a great arm.

1493
01:06:49,114 --> 01:06:50,194
Speaker 1: I don't like aler at all.

1494
01:06:50,634 --> 01:06:51,954
Speaker 5: Oh I don't.

1495
01:06:51,994 --> 01:06:54,674
Speaker 1: I don't I think that now.

1496
01:06:54,714 --> 01:06:56,354
Speaker 8: That's I mean honest, to be honest, That's why I

1497
01:06:56,354 --> 01:06:56,994
Speaker 8: say it, because.

1498
01:06:56,794 --> 01:06:58,594
Speaker 1: That's what happens when he plays teams with the post.

1499
01:06:59,034 --> 01:07:01,474
Speaker 8: That's why I said I thought like he doesn't seem.

1500
01:07:01,314 --> 01:07:03,994
Speaker 1: Like to watch the Ohio State game. Okay, all right,

1501
01:07:04,474 --> 01:07:06,034
Speaker 1: all right, I'll trust you.

1502
01:07:07,474 --> 01:07:12,314
Speaker 5: Micking Kirkland in kirk Ireland rights and uh, speaking of

1503
01:07:12,394 --> 01:07:15,394
Speaker 5: which he says, first, Happy New Year. I hope you

1504
01:07:15,434 --> 01:07:18,673
Speaker 5: all enjoyed the holiday season bar a certain Saturday game,

1505
01:07:19,114 --> 01:07:22,394
Speaker 5: Speaking of which I always felt male deserve the second year,

1506
01:07:22,474 --> 01:07:25,193
Speaker 5: as I had fully expected this season to be poor

1507
01:07:25,874 --> 01:07:28,234
Speaker 5: and had not expected a good record similar to you,

1508
01:07:28,274 --> 01:07:31,354
Speaker 5: I felt four to six wins was the best possible. However,

1509
01:07:32,314 --> 01:07:35,274
Speaker 5: this season has turned out to be worse than expected,

1510
01:07:35,594 --> 01:07:37,514
Speaker 5: and I feel that there is no other choice but

1511
01:07:37,554 --> 01:07:40,354
Speaker 5: to move on from Mayo. If Mike Rabel is willing,

1512
01:07:40,394 --> 01:07:43,154
Speaker 5: then let's go. The biggest disappointment is that there has

1513
01:07:43,194 --> 01:07:47,434
Speaker 5: been zero improvement anywhere across the team. Defenses regrets to

1514
01:07:47,474 --> 01:07:50,474
Speaker 5: being no more than a glorified speed bump for good teams,

1515
01:07:50,794 --> 01:07:53,914
Speaker 5: and the offense rarely sustains drives and are easy to defend.

1516
01:07:54,434 --> 01:07:57,154
Speaker 5: I believe a new start is required, and in my opinion,

1517
01:07:57,194 --> 01:07:59,514
Speaker 5: the only thing worse for Drake May's development and getting

1518
01:07:59,594 --> 01:08:02,114
Speaker 5: rid of a coach in its first season is getting

1519
01:08:02,194 --> 01:08:04,714
Speaker 5: rid of a coach in his second season and thus

1520
01:08:04,794 --> 01:08:07,234
Speaker 5: impacting two years of his development.

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Speaker 8: It's been an interesting lesson. Like I think I've said

1522
01:08:10,114 --> 01:08:11,674
Speaker 8: it before in the show, like I always felt like

1523
01:08:11,714 --> 01:08:13,794
Speaker 8: some of the AFC's teams maybe we're a little bit

1524
01:08:13,794 --> 01:08:15,593
Speaker 8: too quick to pull the trigger on some of their

1525
01:08:15,594 --> 01:08:18,874
Speaker 8: coach quarterback combinations. Over the twenty years, the Patriots were

1526
01:08:18,874 --> 01:08:21,514
Speaker 8: just whacking everybody. But now being on this side of it,

1527
01:08:21,554 --> 01:08:23,754
Speaker 8: you realize how hard it is, how hard it is

1528
01:08:23,794 --> 01:08:26,394
Speaker 8: to have a bad season in and then try to

1529
01:08:26,474 --> 01:08:30,954
Speaker 8: sell your fan base and the media on why you're

1530
01:08:30,994 --> 01:08:33,234
Speaker 8: gonna keep the guy around even if you know, even

1531
01:08:33,274 --> 01:08:35,554
Speaker 8: if you are taking a patient approach, it's just you

1532
01:08:35,594 --> 01:08:37,914
Speaker 8: feel the pressure. I've said it a few times, is

1533
01:08:37,954 --> 01:08:40,394
Speaker 8: like every week you lose, it gets harder and worse,

1534
01:08:40,554 --> 01:08:43,594
Speaker 8: and the bad energy just continues to mount. And then

1535
01:08:43,634 --> 01:08:45,754
Speaker 8: you win like that one game and it's like, oh

1536
01:08:45,834 --> 01:08:47,074
Speaker 8: my god, thank god, we want a.

1537
01:08:47,034 --> 01:08:48,194
Speaker 5: Game like for a week.

1538
01:08:48,234 --> 01:08:50,073
Speaker 8: We get a little bit of like you know, reprieve

1539
01:08:50,154 --> 01:08:52,954
Speaker 8: from this, but it's it's really hard, and I think

1540
01:08:52,994 --> 01:08:54,834
Speaker 8: I understand things a little bit better from those other

1541
01:08:54,874 --> 01:08:57,594
Speaker 8: teams perspective on why. It's like, all right, we got

1542
01:08:57,594 --> 01:08:59,114
Speaker 8: to move you know Rex Ryan, Yeah he was got

1543
01:08:59,154 --> 01:09:00,994
Speaker 8: as close for a couple of years, but we can't

1544
01:09:00,994 --> 01:09:02,954
Speaker 8: do this anymore. We got to move on. So I

1545
01:09:03,274 --> 01:09:05,514
Speaker 8: just it's new perspective for sure, being on the side

1546
01:09:05,514 --> 01:09:05,674
Speaker 8: of it.

1547
01:09:05,834 --> 01:09:08,194
Speaker 5: All right, we'll take a break. When we come back,

1548
01:09:08,234 --> 01:09:10,754
Speaker 5: more calls and emails. Evanably back, we'll hear what he

1549
01:09:10,834 --> 01:09:12,794
Speaker 5: has to say from practice, and then we'll get into

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Speaker 5: Happy in New Year.

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Speaker 14: Before I start, I'll just found out, you know what's

1573
01:10:21,994 --> 01:10:23,994
Speaker 14: going on sit at New Orleans. Just want to make

1574
01:10:24,034 --> 01:10:28,394
Speaker 14: sure that offer condolences to all those that are affected. Obviously,

1575
01:10:28,394 --> 01:10:32,274
Speaker 14: it's a very unfortunate thing that happened. Kind of puts

1576
01:10:32,274 --> 01:10:34,554
Speaker 14: things in perspective, you know, lives being changed like that,

1577
01:10:34,714 --> 01:10:38,314
Speaker 14: and just want them to know that both me, the team,

1578
01:10:38,394 --> 01:10:43,434
Speaker 14: and the organization definitely offer our heartfelt condolences. All right,

1579
01:10:43,954 --> 01:10:46,154
Speaker 14: So you know, this game looks the last game of

1580
01:10:46,154 --> 01:10:48,194
Speaker 14: the season, and you know the guy, you know, my

1581
01:10:48,234 --> 01:10:50,714
Speaker 14: message to the guys was, we want to finish off

1582
01:10:50,714 --> 01:10:52,274
Speaker 14: the season strong, you know, and try to build some

1583
01:10:52,314 --> 01:10:56,514
Speaker 14: momentum going into the offseason. I would say, you know,

1584
01:10:57,154 --> 01:10:59,434
Speaker 14: the guys are they're ready to go, They're ready to go.

1585
01:10:59,514 --> 01:11:03,034
Speaker 14: We'll see how practice goes today. Obviously, I'm sure the

1586
01:11:03,114 --> 01:11:04,514
Speaker 14: question will come up, you know, do you want to

1587
01:11:04,554 --> 01:11:07,074
Speaker 14: see certain players like? Absolutely? And I would say if

1588
01:11:07,074 --> 01:11:09,154
Speaker 14: players are healthy, they'll be ready to go. Now as

1589
01:11:09,154 --> 01:11:11,314
Speaker 14: far as you know how much they play, how much

1590
01:11:11,314 --> 01:11:14,074
Speaker 14: they don't like. I've never been a part of a

1591
01:11:14,154 --> 01:11:16,034
Speaker 14: team as a player or as a coach going into

1592
01:11:16,114 --> 01:11:17,794
Speaker 14: a game not wanting to win, and it's not going

1593
01:11:17,834 --> 01:11:20,514
Speaker 14: to change today. So uh, that's that's my message to

1594
01:11:20,554 --> 01:11:20,994
Speaker 14: the team.

1595
01:11:21,154 --> 01:11:23,634
Speaker 1: Prob what can you tell us about the conditions Drake?

1596
01:11:23,874 --> 01:11:27,354
Speaker 14: And also you expect him to start on You're going

1597
01:11:27,394 --> 01:11:29,674
Speaker 14: to talk to Drake here in a second. Drake's healthy,

1598
01:11:29,674 --> 01:11:31,594
Speaker 14: He'll be up practice today and we'll see how it

1599
01:11:31,634 --> 01:11:32,234
Speaker 14: goes this week.

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01:11:32,434 --> 01:11:34,834
Speaker 4: You're another guy who left the Saturday.

1601
01:11:36,834 --> 01:11:40,194
Speaker 14: He's still in the protocols, so I'm not gonna I

1602
01:11:40,194 --> 01:11:43,314
Speaker 14: don't want to get too far down that line.

1603
01:11:43,394 --> 01:11:44,514
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes this week.

1604
01:11:44,994 --> 01:11:48,714
Speaker 9: Referring to Drake, what factors will be at play when

1605
01:11:48,754 --> 01:11:50,434
Speaker 9: deciding whether he starts Sunday.

1606
01:11:50,394 --> 01:11:50,954
Speaker 1: Yeah, my thing.

1607
01:11:51,114 --> 01:11:52,634
Speaker 14: You know if you talk to Drake, but you will

1608
01:11:52,634 --> 01:11:55,034
Speaker 14: hear soon if he's a competitor, he wants to play,

1609
01:11:55,834 --> 01:11:58,114
Speaker 14: and look, he's still developing, so he'll be ready to go.

1610
01:11:58,234 --> 01:11:59,794
Speaker 4: So if he wants to play, will he start.

1611
01:12:01,514 --> 01:12:04,754
Speaker 14: Drake is our starting quarterback if he's healthy and ready

1612
01:12:04,794 --> 01:12:06,274
Speaker 14: to go as we go through this week of practice,

1613
01:12:06,274 --> 01:12:07,114
Speaker 14: and he'll play.

1614
01:12:08,074 --> 01:12:08,354
Speaker 4: Grog.

1615
01:12:08,394 --> 01:12:10,234
Speaker 5: You said that you want to make sure that you're

1616
01:12:10,234 --> 01:12:12,434
Speaker 5: winning the game, but also mentioned earlier that you want

1617
01:12:12,434 --> 01:12:14,794
Speaker 5: young players to get opportunities. How much of an opportunity

1618
01:12:14,874 --> 01:12:16,834
Speaker 5: is this game to get those guys more chances?

1619
01:12:16,914 --> 01:12:18,554
Speaker 14: Yeah, we'll have to see how the game goes.

1620
01:12:19,834 --> 01:12:24,274
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we went into that decision trying.

1621
01:12:24,074 --> 01:12:26,634
Speaker 14: To give a veteran player, which you in over you

1622
01:12:26,674 --> 01:12:29,113
Speaker 14: know it's not just Yannick, but give him an opportunity

1623
01:12:29,114 --> 01:12:30,674
Speaker 14: to catch on with the team that will be in

1624
01:12:30,674 --> 01:12:34,714
Speaker 14: the postseason. What about just about He's did a great job.

1625
01:12:34,874 --> 01:12:36,514
Speaker 14: He was great in the meeting rooms, he was you know,

1626
01:12:36,554 --> 01:12:38,754
Speaker 14: great out there in the practice field, a veteran that

1627
01:12:39,274 --> 01:12:40,914
Speaker 14: brought a lot to the table. And wish him nothing

1628
01:12:40,914 --> 01:12:41,434
Speaker 14: but the best.

1629
01:12:41,634 --> 01:12:43,914
Speaker 15: What about Rod For a guy like Drake, you've made

1630
01:12:43,954 --> 01:12:46,714
Speaker 15: it this far in the season, there's one game left.

1631
01:12:46,714 --> 01:12:48,354
Speaker 4: What about the risk of injury now with just.

1632
01:12:48,234 --> 01:12:48,954
Speaker 6: This one game?

1633
01:12:49,114 --> 01:12:52,314
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that's that's any position. I know oftentimes

1634
01:12:52,314 --> 01:12:54,194
Speaker 14: we focus on the quarterback spot, but that's part of

1635
01:12:54,194 --> 01:12:56,634
Speaker 14: playing football.

1636
01:12:55,554 --> 01:12:58,354
Speaker 9: That's saying that the team.

1637
01:12:58,394 --> 01:13:03,434
Speaker 16: Because you weren't over here, everyone.

1638
01:13:03,114 --> 01:13:06,874
Speaker 14: Else the team, look the team. Everyone that's healthy will

1639
01:13:06,914 --> 01:13:08,634
Speaker 14: be ready to play and are expected to play.

1640
01:13:09,954 --> 01:13:11,834
Speaker 4: You know, I think it was one of you dress

1641
01:13:11,914 --> 01:13:15,154
Speaker 4: you get Yeah, sure did you getting some time.

1642
01:13:17,074 --> 01:13:17,354
Speaker 15: With him?

1643
01:13:17,394 --> 01:13:19,274
Speaker 4: I know you know what's happening with with Kobe.

1644
01:13:19,034 --> 01:13:19,194
Speaker 9: But.

1645
01:13:21,554 --> 01:13:24,234
Speaker 14: I would say it's still all up in there, all

1646
01:13:24,274 --> 01:13:27,314
Speaker 14: three quarterbacks as we've carried two, and the emergency quarterback

1647
01:13:27,354 --> 01:13:27,994
Speaker 14: will be ready to go.

1648
01:13:28,674 --> 01:13:31,314
Speaker 16: You what have you seen from do since you've gone

1649
01:13:31,314 --> 01:13:33,474
Speaker 16: in the building and here goly mad.

1650
01:13:33,474 --> 01:13:36,834
Speaker 14: To Twitter is Yeah, just you know, I think you know,

1651
01:13:36,874 --> 01:13:40,434
Speaker 14: his ability to read coverages has definitely improved. Look, he

1652
01:13:40,434 --> 01:13:42,434
Speaker 14: has all the physical tools. I would say the commander

1653
01:13:42,434 --> 01:13:44,074
Speaker 14: of the huddle has also improved, and he's done a

1654
01:13:44,074 --> 01:13:45,714
Speaker 14: good job on the show teams throughout the week.

1655
01:13:45,794 --> 01:13:50,914
Speaker 16: So you talk about laying a foundation, which portions of

1656
01:13:50,994 --> 01:13:55,554
Speaker 16: the foundation do you feel our most solidly laid so

1657
01:13:55,674 --> 01:13:58,594
Speaker 16: far in terms of from last January to.

1658
01:13:59,314 --> 01:13:59,954
Speaker 4: A year later.

1659
01:14:00,234 --> 01:14:01,634
Speaker 14: I'm not going to get into, like, you know, the

1660
01:14:01,674 --> 01:14:03,834
Speaker 14: different position groups, but I would think that we offer.

1661
01:14:03,954 --> 01:14:06,914
Speaker 4: I mean cultural room.

1662
01:14:07,154 --> 01:14:09,234
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, going back to look, these guys have come

1663
01:14:09,274 --> 01:14:10,914
Speaker 14: in here every week, and I know our record is

1664
01:14:10,914 --> 01:14:12,634
Speaker 14: what it is, but they come in here every single

1665
01:14:12,674 --> 01:14:15,194
Speaker 14: week during the hard season, ready to work, going out

1666
01:14:15,194 --> 01:14:16,674
Speaker 14: there trying to get better, and I think that's huge.

1667
01:14:16,714 --> 01:14:17,354
Speaker 14: That's part of it.

1668
01:14:18,394 --> 01:14:22,674
Speaker 9: What if you've learned about Drake to this point and

1669
01:14:22,754 --> 01:14:23,434
Speaker 9: what more.

1670
01:14:23,274 --> 01:14:26,314
Speaker 14: Could you learn from I feel like we, you know,

1671
01:14:26,314 --> 01:14:28,634
Speaker 14: we talk about this often. I would just say his

1672
01:14:28,714 --> 01:14:30,994
Speaker 14: ability to change the page and learn from his mistakes.

1673
01:14:31,834 --> 01:14:34,034
Speaker 15: Any reflections on this being the last week of the

1674
01:14:34,074 --> 01:14:36,514
Speaker 15: season and just what this journey has been like for

1675
01:14:36,594 --> 01:14:36,994
Speaker 15: you so far.

1676
01:14:37,354 --> 01:14:39,314
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it's important to remember where you are

1677
01:14:39,354 --> 01:14:42,554
Speaker 14: in the journey and you know, and no one's happy

1678
01:14:42,594 --> 01:14:45,034
Speaker 14: with our record or anything like that. But understanding where

1679
01:14:45,074 --> 01:14:46,514
Speaker 14: you are in the journey is definitely important.

1680
01:14:47,074 --> 01:14:50,754
Speaker 8: Better a coach are you today when you were for

1681
01:14:50,914 --> 01:14:51,234
Speaker 8: a time?

1682
01:14:52,114 --> 01:14:54,354
Speaker 4: Did you do this process for me?

1683
01:14:54,474 --> 01:14:56,474
Speaker 14: Like you know, first year doing anything, they are going

1684
01:14:56,554 --> 01:14:58,154
Speaker 14: to be growing pains and things like that, and you

1685
01:14:58,154 --> 01:14:59,954
Speaker 14: have to you have to learn from those mistakes and

1686
01:15:00,874 --> 01:15:02,714
Speaker 14: move forward and do the things that you did well

1687
01:15:02,754 --> 01:15:04,194
Speaker 14: early in the season and carry them over to the

1688
01:15:04,234 --> 01:15:04,674
Speaker 14: next season.

1689
01:15:05,514 --> 01:15:08,194
Speaker 7: Stan Campbell before when doing something about the blob stays

1690
01:15:08,194 --> 01:15:10,194
Speaker 7: time to see you here first year, what stands out

1691
01:15:10,234 --> 01:15:12,274
Speaker 7: to you about how the people to trainees.

1692
01:15:12,034 --> 01:15:14,434
Speaker 14: Have Well, you know it takes time, but I would say,

1693
01:15:14,594 --> 01:15:16,194
Speaker 14: you know, you look at those guys now both from

1694
01:15:16,194 --> 01:15:18,514
Speaker 14: a roster and a coaching perspective, like from his first

1695
01:15:18,554 --> 01:15:20,034
Speaker 14: year to a second year to his third year, all

1696
01:15:20,074 --> 01:15:22,354
Speaker 14: those things there was change and you know he got

1697
01:15:22,354 --> 01:15:23,954
Speaker 14: it nailed down and those guys are playing well. And

1698
01:15:24,194 --> 01:15:26,194
Speaker 14: you know there are other examp about the you know,

1699
01:15:26,514 --> 01:15:29,314
Speaker 14: other examples, but you know right now, I'm focused on

1700
01:15:29,354 --> 01:15:31,074
Speaker 14: the bills for the most part, and that's what we're

1701
01:15:31,074 --> 01:15:31,394
Speaker 14: going to do.

1702
01:15:31,714 --> 01:15:33,994
Speaker 1: What you said earlier that you know a lot to

1703
01:15:33,994 --> 01:15:34,794
Speaker 1: see how the week goes.

1704
01:15:34,914 --> 01:15:37,474
Speaker 15: Pretty making decisions about forty bucks we will have to

1705
01:15:37,514 --> 01:15:40,554
Speaker 15: happen during the week to change anything from what.

1706
01:15:40,434 --> 01:15:41,194
Speaker 4: You've done the past.

1707
01:15:41,474 --> 01:15:43,274
Speaker 14: I mean, it's it's been this way the whole year.

1708
01:15:43,354 --> 01:15:44,434
Speaker 14: You know, you go out there and have a good

1709
01:15:44,434 --> 01:15:46,474
Speaker 14: week of practice. We're always competing and you have an

1710
01:15:46,474 --> 01:15:48,274
Speaker 14: opportunity in the game and it's not about how many

1711
01:15:48,394 --> 01:15:50,354
Speaker 14: snaps you play again, to me, it's the value and

1712
01:15:50,394 --> 01:15:52,354
Speaker 14: the quality of those snaps that are the most important

1713
01:15:52,394 --> 01:15:53,754
Speaker 14: thing as we evaluate.

1714
01:15:53,754 --> 01:15:55,434
Speaker 4: What have you learned about yourself this year?

1715
01:15:56,914 --> 01:16:01,994
Speaker 14: To be a serious this is the same question, you know,

1716
01:16:02,114 --> 01:16:04,154
Speaker 14: just being resilient. You know, just trying to be resilient

1717
01:16:04,234 --> 01:16:06,154
Speaker 14: hasn't gone the way that any of us have wanted

1718
01:16:06,234 --> 01:16:09,394
Speaker 14: to go. And it's a huge, huge, huge piece of it.

1719
01:16:09,394 --> 01:16:09,554
Speaker 4: You know.

1720
01:16:09,594 --> 01:16:11,674
Speaker 14: Steve Jobs, I think you know, he had a quote

1721
01:16:11,674 --> 01:16:14,434
Speaker 14: where you have winning seasons or winning years and then

1722
01:16:14,474 --> 01:16:16,394
Speaker 14: you have character building years, and this has been one

1723
01:16:16,434 --> 01:16:19,874
Speaker 14: of those character building years that I'll always remember.

1724
01:16:20,074 --> 01:16:22,554
Speaker 16: And you said, I'm sorry that you hear the fans

1725
01:16:22,554 --> 01:16:25,634
Speaker 16: in the chance does that affect you know?

1726
01:16:25,754 --> 01:16:27,514
Speaker 14: For me, it's all about the guys in the locker room.

1727
01:16:27,514 --> 01:16:30,554
Speaker 14: And look, they're they're disappointed in the record. I understand that.

1728
01:16:30,634 --> 01:16:32,794
Speaker 14: And look, even with you guys in the media. I

1729
01:16:32,874 --> 01:16:35,394
Speaker 14: understand what your job is, and that's okay. My thing is,

1730
01:16:35,394 --> 01:16:37,874
Speaker 14: it's always about the team and it's about winning football games.

1731
01:16:38,074 --> 01:16:40,474
Speaker 15: Were you concerned or worried about that this could be

1732
01:16:40,514 --> 01:16:41,554
Speaker 15: your last game on Sundays?

1733
01:16:41,834 --> 01:16:43,514
Speaker 14: For me, it's all about just focusing on the Bills,

1734
01:16:43,514 --> 01:16:44,274
Speaker 14: trying to win that game.

1735
01:16:44,754 --> 01:16:46,074
Speaker 16: How much work if you have to do on the

1736
01:16:46,074 --> 01:16:48,114
Speaker 16: Bills are considering you played them just two weeks ago?

1737
01:16:48,634 --> 01:16:51,594
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, look, you always want to prepare as

1738
01:16:51,674 --> 01:16:53,634
Speaker 14: if it's the first time you played them. Look, we

1739
01:16:53,674 --> 01:16:55,474
Speaker 14: know those guys, and you know you go back and

1740
01:16:55,474 --> 01:16:57,554
Speaker 14: look at that game the first half versus the second half,

1741
01:16:57,594 --> 01:16:59,394
Speaker 14: and you know we were in it for quite some

1742
01:16:59,434 --> 01:17:01,714
Speaker 14: time until the second half. It was just it got

1743
01:17:01,714 --> 01:17:04,674
Speaker 14: out of control. So definitely still doing all of our homework.

1744
01:17:04,714 --> 01:17:07,034
Speaker 14: We're still game planning, approaching it like a like a

1745
01:17:07,074 --> 01:17:07,554
Speaker 14: normal week.

1746
01:17:08,194 --> 01:17:11,234
Speaker 11: Last cool leagues have Elliott already went an ownership heavy

1747
01:17:11,314 --> 01:17:14,834
Speaker 11: input on the approach when it comes to who will

1748
01:17:14,834 --> 01:17:15,914
Speaker 11: play Sunday.

1749
01:17:16,474 --> 01:17:18,874
Speaker 14: I'm look, I'm in constant communication with Elliott. I'm in

1750
01:17:18,874 --> 01:17:21,514
Speaker 14: constant communication with ownership. And again, I've never been a

1751
01:17:21,514 --> 01:17:23,674
Speaker 14: part of a team as a player, or a coach

1752
01:17:23,714 --> 01:17:25,074
Speaker 14: where we haven't gone out there and try to win

1753
01:17:25,114 --> 01:17:27,794
Speaker 14: the game. So it's those conversations haven't happened.

1754
01:17:33,434 --> 01:17:36,394
Speaker 8: When you're trying to figure out why these are going wrong?

1755
01:17:36,514 --> 01:17:39,193
Speaker 7: How do you purse through what's the result of coaching,

1756
01:17:39,314 --> 01:17:40,674
Speaker 7: player execution, talent?

1757
01:17:41,674 --> 01:17:43,234
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's part of it. Like you have to

1758
01:17:43,274 --> 01:17:46,394
Speaker 14: evaluate everything. You have to evaluate the different processes throughout

1759
01:17:46,394 --> 01:17:48,074
Speaker 14: the week. You have to evaluate the coaches that have

1760
01:17:48,114 --> 01:17:51,794
Speaker 14: to evaluate myself and have others evaluate me. It's everyone's

1761
01:17:51,834 --> 01:17:53,594
Speaker 14: under look. When you have a season like this, you

1762
01:17:53,634 --> 01:17:56,474
Speaker 14: got to evaluate everything, all right, appreciate it happening.

1763
01:17:56,194 --> 01:17:56,634
Speaker 5: To year.

1764
01:17:58,994 --> 01:18:01,034
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1765
01:18:03,354 --> 01:18:04,034
Speaker 4: History.

1766
01:18:04,154 --> 01:18:07,194
Speaker 5: And Steve wants to know why, Eric, do you hate emailers?

1767
01:18:07,394 --> 01:18:10,194
Speaker 1: Does hate everybody?

1768
01:18:10,554 --> 01:18:11,674
Speaker 8: I hate bad emailers?

1769
01:18:12,114 --> 01:18:14,474
Speaker 1: See it doesn't like the weather. Ye see it's raining

1770
01:18:14,994 --> 01:18:17,674
Speaker 1: makes Eric boy. I have to admit now the fact

1771
01:18:17,714 --> 01:18:19,634
Speaker 1: that I had to put jeans on this morning really

1772
01:18:19,634 --> 01:18:23,034
Speaker 1: got me mad. It's like August and I'm went long

1773
01:18:23,114 --> 01:18:25,954
Speaker 1: pants staring at the khaki shorts of SoC not today.

1774
01:18:26,434 --> 01:18:27,874
Speaker 1: Good thing I warn't too it was cold.

1775
01:18:28,074 --> 01:18:29,434
Speaker 5: And Paul wears mom jeans.

1776
01:18:29,554 --> 01:18:32,674
Speaker 1: By the way, my jeans are like school. They're so

1777
01:18:32,874 --> 01:18:36,994
Speaker 1: old yeah, and there's so warm acid washed rip jeans.

1778
01:18:36,234 --> 01:18:39,074
Speaker 1: They're not even acid washed. They just look at they're

1779
01:18:39,114 --> 01:18:39,834
Speaker 1: like bottom.

1780
01:18:39,914 --> 01:18:43,274
Speaker 17: You don't have like the like belot shut up.

1781
01:18:43,314 --> 01:18:44,794
Speaker 8: I thought he was gonna wear like tight tape.

1782
01:18:45,674 --> 01:18:47,314
Speaker 1: That would be I don't do. I don't do the

1783
01:18:47,314 --> 01:18:50,594
Speaker 1: euro jeans for obvious reasons.

1784
01:18:51,554 --> 01:18:58,154
Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.

1785
01:18:56,114 --> 01:18:59,034
Speaker 5: Mark Chado writes in giving Fred's view on try hard

1786
01:18:59,114 --> 01:19:01,114
Speaker 5: guys and wanting them on the team. How on earth

1787
01:19:01,114 --> 01:19:06,194
Speaker 5: did Eric survive for so long working as party good question.

1788
01:19:07,034 --> 01:19:09,394
Speaker 5: He wouldn't and couldn't run through a tissue paper wall,

1789
01:19:09,474 --> 01:19:10,434
Speaker 5: let alone a real one.

1790
01:19:11,194 --> 01:19:12,874
Speaker 1: So that's I just thought.

1791
01:19:12,914 --> 01:19:20,674
Speaker 5: I said, let's get right into it. No, No, somebody's back.

1792
01:19:24,674 --> 01:19:25,754
Speaker 8: Last one last.

1793
01:19:33,674 --> 01:19:37,554
Speaker 6: All right, Eric, you're back, Evan. I'm having some teary

1794
01:19:37,554 --> 01:19:45,274
Speaker 6: eye moments. Do I call you Eric every once a like,

1795
01:19:45,274 --> 01:19:51,554
Speaker 6: like once every three weeks. You need to correct me,

1796
01:19:51,834 --> 01:19:55,594
Speaker 6: you know, I I understand that you know my name. Okay,

1797
01:19:57,834 --> 01:20:00,154
Speaker 6: this is sad. Thanks for making me sad, though, dude said,

1798
01:20:00,154 --> 01:20:02,914
Speaker 6: this is the last time I will return to practice

1799
01:20:03,394 --> 01:20:07,434
Speaker 6: from practice of the year, so that's that's upsetting. Anyways,

1800
01:20:07,674 --> 01:20:11,154
Speaker 6: Kishon Boody returned to practice. He was back today with

1801
01:20:11,154 --> 01:20:14,754
Speaker 6: that illness, so he's, uh, he looks like he will

1802
01:20:14,794 --> 01:20:18,114
Speaker 6: be all right. And Christian Gonzalez, Ben Brown, and Jalen

1803
01:20:18,154 --> 01:20:22,194
Speaker 6: polk remained absent, so polkan is with the shoulder and

1804
01:20:22,194 --> 01:20:25,034
Speaker 6: then Gonzales and Brown are both in concussion protocol. So

1805
01:20:25,434 --> 01:20:27,794
Speaker 6: looking like another cold, strange game. And I would say,

1806
01:20:27,794 --> 01:20:30,434
Speaker 6: looking like no Gonzo the finale.

1807
01:20:30,074 --> 01:20:35,314
Speaker 5: On And was there any noticeable splint rap on Drake

1808
01:20:35,394 --> 01:20:36,714
Speaker 5: May's right throwing hand.

1809
01:20:36,794 --> 01:20:38,794
Speaker 6: There was not, And we got a pretty good look

1810
01:20:38,794 --> 01:20:41,234
Speaker 6: at it based off of where we were at practice,

1811
01:20:41,274 --> 01:20:44,594
Speaker 6: and they were doing a drill trying to throw the

1812
01:20:44,594 --> 01:20:47,834
Speaker 6: ball out quickly to the screen outside on the perimeter,

1813
01:20:47,914 --> 01:20:50,074
Speaker 6: and they they were doing it pretty uh you know,

1814
01:20:50,154 --> 01:20:51,434
Speaker 6: slight of hand type of stuff.

1815
01:20:51,474 --> 01:20:53,954
Speaker 17: And he looked, fine, Okay, is there a hand injury?

1816
01:20:53,994 --> 01:20:58,794
Speaker 17: I missed something that finger injury. It's technically a hand

1817
01:20:58,834 --> 01:21:01,554
Speaker 17: on the injury rap sheet said fingers.

1818
01:21:03,794 --> 01:21:03,994
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1819
01:21:04,034 --> 01:21:06,034
Speaker 5: I mean that was the whole reason why I went

1820
01:21:06,074 --> 01:21:09,314
Speaker 5: into today thinking, well, maybe he won't play. Yeah, you know,

1821
01:21:10,794 --> 01:21:12,914
Speaker 5: let's see what else is going on. There's very windy

1822
01:21:12,994 --> 01:21:15,634
Speaker 5: out there. It was very windy, and do we think

1823
01:21:15,634 --> 01:21:18,194
Speaker 5: it's going to be windy on game day? So was

1824
01:21:18,234 --> 01:21:20,554
Speaker 5: this something that they could, you know, practice in and

1825
01:21:20,634 --> 01:21:21,674
Speaker 5: use to their advantage.

1826
01:21:21,834 --> 01:21:25,314
Speaker 1: It's a good point, cool the reason to play Drake May.

1827
01:21:26,634 --> 01:21:30,994
Speaker 6: It was incredibly windy out there, and I just find

1828
01:21:31,034 --> 01:21:33,994
Speaker 6: it to be very windy back there where the practice

1829
01:21:34,034 --> 01:21:36,914
Speaker 6: fields are in general, Like I feel like every once

1830
01:21:36,954 --> 01:21:39,914
Speaker 6: the weather turns to winter, it's always like a wind

1831
01:21:39,914 --> 01:21:44,074
Speaker 6: tunnel back there. And I don't know about the weather

1832
01:21:44,114 --> 01:21:47,794
Speaker 6: on Sunday, did not check, but it was definitely a

1833
01:21:47,874 --> 01:21:51,074
Speaker 6: weather impacted practice there today.

1834
01:21:51,314 --> 01:21:53,074
Speaker 5: Goal post moving.

1835
01:21:53,154 --> 01:21:56,874
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of arguing with you. Yeah, post

1836
01:21:56,954 --> 01:22:03,234
Speaker 1: moving old. That's that's old me. Sorry, that was just

1837
01:22:03,274 --> 01:22:06,914
Speaker 1: a snarky little It's fine, it's fine.

1838
01:22:07,074 --> 01:22:09,474
Speaker 6: What happened when I was gone.

1839
01:22:10,954 --> 01:22:12,514
Speaker 1: One of my outs is I'm no longer going to

1840
01:22:12,514 --> 01:22:13,874
Speaker 1: get in petty arguments with Fred.

1841
01:22:14,194 --> 01:22:17,274
Speaker 7: No, that's never We're looking at thirty degrees.

1842
01:22:17,594 --> 01:22:19,114
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks like it's going to be cold, but

1843
01:22:19,194 --> 01:22:21,514
Speaker 6: not overly at least sunny today.

1844
01:22:21,594 --> 01:22:24,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean we've had it was warm and rainy,

1845
01:22:24,594 --> 01:22:26,874
Speaker 5: and then the wind started and it blew in this

1846
01:22:27,594 --> 01:22:28,714
Speaker 5: cold air from the north.

1847
01:22:28,914 --> 01:22:31,514
Speaker 1: Yeah, gonna sit here for a while. It's gonna be

1848
01:22:31,514 --> 01:22:32,634
Speaker 1: pretty cold on Sunday.

1849
01:22:32,754 --> 01:22:34,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, but no precipitation.

1850
01:22:34,234 --> 01:22:35,394
Speaker 1: I don't know, is that the word.

1851
01:22:35,714 --> 01:22:36,114
Speaker 5: I don't think.

1852
01:22:36,234 --> 01:22:37,234
Speaker 6: It looks like just cold.

1853
01:22:37,314 --> 01:22:39,034
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if we got it like a little snow,

1854
01:22:39,114 --> 01:22:40,954
Speaker 1: as long as it wasn't like we couldn't travel.

1855
01:22:41,594 --> 01:22:44,074
Speaker 5: I started up my snow blower. It started up fine.

1856
01:22:44,114 --> 01:22:47,354
Speaker 1: So that means because I was sorry, that's a good point.

1857
01:22:47,434 --> 01:22:49,794
Speaker 1: I was talking to Mike about that. Like last year,

1858
01:22:50,714 --> 01:22:54,754
Speaker 1: you know, they were they gave like that snow game

1859
01:22:55,114 --> 01:22:58,034
Speaker 1: even though this had nothing, you know, Patriots, Jet's last

1860
01:22:58,034 --> 01:22:59,914
Speaker 1: game and the year just playing out the string, but

1861
01:22:59,954 --> 01:23:02,274
Speaker 1: the snow kind of gave you a reason. It's always

1862
01:23:02,274 --> 01:23:03,714
Speaker 1: fun to kind of watch a snow game.

1863
01:23:03,914 --> 01:23:05,114
Speaker 8: Yeap, Yeah, is it?

1864
01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:09,754
Speaker 5: You know in theory everybody loves I don't know game.

1865
01:23:10,034 --> 01:23:12,474
Speaker 8: I don't love heard that.

1866
01:23:12,714 --> 01:23:15,434
Speaker 7: I don't like snow games. But we had last week

1867
01:23:16,034 --> 01:23:16,874
Speaker 7: just cold and wet.

1868
01:23:17,954 --> 01:23:19,554
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd rather it be snow coming.

1869
01:23:19,554 --> 01:23:23,554
Speaker 1: I think last Saturday football. Yeah, so I forty five degrees?

1870
01:23:23,554 --> 01:23:24,154
Speaker 1: What do you want?

1871
01:23:24,274 --> 01:23:27,274
Speaker 5: I was cold, so I assumed maybe.

1872
01:23:28,954 --> 01:23:31,674
Speaker 6: We are definitely we're done with the paths, We're done

1873
01:23:31,714 --> 01:23:32,114
Speaker 6: with pats.

1874
01:23:32,194 --> 01:23:34,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and.

1875
01:23:36,874 --> 01:23:37,954
Speaker 1: How was the mood.

1876
01:23:39,194 --> 01:23:39,474
Speaker 8: It was?

1877
01:23:41,394 --> 01:23:45,594
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know it was it was typical mood today,

1878
01:23:45,714 --> 01:23:49,314
Speaker 6: typical typical. I think, you know, there's a definitely a

1879
01:23:49,394 --> 01:23:53,234
Speaker 6: sense of last week of school. You know, we're getting

1880
01:23:53,274 --> 01:23:55,514
Speaker 6: to the end all that kind of stuff.

1881
01:23:55,594 --> 01:23:58,274
Speaker 5: But sometimes things break down that last week of school.

1882
01:23:58,394 --> 01:24:02,434
Speaker 5: That's when kids get in trouble, they act up, you know.

1883
01:24:02,994 --> 01:24:07,434
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking mostly of the media. How was the

1884
01:24:07,514 --> 01:24:09,954
Speaker 5: behavior among the scribes?

1885
01:24:10,634 --> 01:24:13,194
Speaker 6: It was, It was pretty normal. Not everybody was there. Again,

1886
01:24:13,234 --> 01:24:16,634
Speaker 6: I think there are some people that still celebrating New

1887
01:24:16,714 --> 01:24:18,234
Speaker 6: Year's out a little bit.

1888
01:24:18,394 --> 01:24:20,394
Speaker 7: I think once you get up there, those hangovers last

1889
01:24:20,394 --> 01:24:20,994
Speaker 7: a couple of days.

1890
01:24:21,034 --> 01:24:23,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we're tapped out a little Okay, a

1891
01:24:23,954 --> 01:24:26,074
Speaker 5: lot of talk about Gone not making the.

1892
01:24:25,994 --> 01:24:28,554
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl a little bit, and you know, he's in

1893
01:24:28,914 --> 01:24:32,514
Speaker 6: concussion protocol so we aren't able to talk to him currently,

1894
01:24:32,834 --> 01:24:36,514
Speaker 6: which is kind of a bummer. But yeah, he a

1895
01:24:36,514 --> 01:24:39,034
Speaker 6: little bit. But I think what the general consensus that

1896
01:24:39,354 --> 01:24:42,354
Speaker 6: we all kind of came to was, you know, the

1897
01:24:42,394 --> 01:24:44,474
Speaker 6: other guys that made it over him have a little

1898
01:24:44,474 --> 01:24:46,474
Speaker 6: bit more brand recognition, have been in the league a

1899
01:24:46,514 --> 01:24:49,234
Speaker 6: little bit longer, so you know, he's gonna have to

1900
01:24:50,034 --> 01:24:52,834
Speaker 6: have some proof of concept here before you're starting to

1901
01:24:52,834 --> 01:24:56,314
Speaker 6: be in the conversations with Pat Sertan and Denzel Ward

1902
01:24:56,434 --> 01:24:59,754
Speaker 6: and you know, guys that have done it for multiple years.

1903
01:24:59,794 --> 01:25:02,474
Speaker 6: So this feels like the foundation has been laid for

1904
01:25:02,594 --> 01:25:05,554
Speaker 6: him to be one of those accolades guys. And now

1905
01:25:05,674 --> 01:25:08,794
Speaker 6: you know next year, if he repeats it, he'll get it.

1906
01:25:08,874 --> 01:25:12,474
Speaker 5: And how many of the ball knowers will be visibly

1907
01:25:12,554 --> 01:25:14,314
Speaker 5: upset if the Patriots win this game?

1908
01:25:17,954 --> 01:25:21,634
Speaker 6: I would say it depends on how far down they

1909
01:25:21,634 --> 01:25:23,674
Speaker 6: go down the draft order. Obviously they can only go

1910
01:25:23,714 --> 01:25:25,434
Speaker 6: down to four, right, but you know, you never know,

1911
01:25:25,514 --> 01:25:28,154
Speaker 6: maybe like the Giants like pull off an upset two

1912
01:25:28,434 --> 01:25:29,194
Speaker 6: or something like that.

1913
01:25:29,274 --> 01:25:31,074
Speaker 5: But let's let's say they end up in like, will

1914
01:25:31,074 --> 01:25:34,234
Speaker 5: they be will there be certain ball knowers very very upset?

1915
01:25:34,354 --> 01:25:37,274
Speaker 6: There'll definitely be certain people very very upset. But the

1916
01:25:37,354 --> 01:25:40,834
Speaker 6: true ball knowers now that in this draft, like it's

1917
01:25:40,874 --> 01:25:42,834
Speaker 6: probably not going to make a major difference. And I

1918
01:25:43,154 --> 01:25:46,314
Speaker 6: understand that we all are hoping and praying that a

1919
01:25:46,354 --> 01:25:48,314
Speaker 6: team is going to send a package for the number

1920
01:25:48,314 --> 01:25:51,714
Speaker 6: one overall pick to draft Shador Sanders or cam Ward,

1921
01:25:51,754 --> 01:25:55,193
Speaker 6: but it just that's not the temperature of the situation

1922
01:25:55,314 --> 01:25:57,554
Speaker 6: right now at the draft, and so you're probably gonna

1923
01:25:57,594 --> 01:26:00,194
Speaker 6: end up drafting the same guy, right, Like, if you're

1924
01:26:00,314 --> 01:26:03,914
Speaker 6: targeting Kelvin Banks, he's you're you're probably gonna end up

1925
01:26:03,954 --> 01:26:06,314
Speaker 6: drafting the met four instead of at one. And at

1926
01:26:06,314 --> 01:26:08,034
Speaker 6: that point, what difference didn't really make.

1927
01:26:07,994 --> 01:26:10,074
Speaker 5: Question for you because we talked about it before you

1928
01:26:10,154 --> 01:26:14,354
Speaker 5: got here. Yeah, this urger No, No, the Penn State

1929
01:26:14,434 --> 01:26:17,994
Speaker 5: quarterback the players, does he go to the top of

1930
01:26:18,034 --> 01:26:18,394
Speaker 5: the heap?

1931
01:26:18,674 --> 01:26:24,434
Speaker 6: No, no, no, No, he's I would say, early day

1932
01:26:24,474 --> 01:26:26,154
Speaker 6: three guy at bet really, so you.

1933
01:26:26,154 --> 01:26:28,794
Speaker 1: Know people are talking about him as being a potential

1934
01:26:28,834 --> 01:26:32,994
Speaker 1: top ten pick. Jesus, I'm not kidding. I heard a

1935
01:26:32,994 --> 01:26:35,634
Speaker 1: guy on yesterday. It was a guy from PFF. It

1936
01:26:35,754 --> 01:26:39,874
Speaker 1: was their college guy who was on EEI, and he

1937
01:26:39,994 --> 01:26:43,194
Speaker 1: said that there's a lot of evaluators that think if

1938
01:26:43,234 --> 01:26:46,194
Speaker 1: he changes his mind, he'd be a top ten pick.

1939
01:26:46,754 --> 01:26:49,394
Speaker 6: That's crazy. If he goes back to school and has

1940
01:26:49,434 --> 01:26:53,634
Speaker 6: a good year next year and really shows improvement, I like,

1941
01:26:53,914 --> 01:26:55,834
Speaker 6: you know that happens like that. I think that there's

1942
01:26:55,874 --> 01:26:58,794
Speaker 6: a skill set there, absolutely, But the way that this

1943
01:26:58,874 --> 01:27:02,674
Speaker 6: draft is being talked about already is driving me crazy. Yeah,

1944
01:27:02,834 --> 01:27:08,834
Speaker 6: just especially for people that you know, it's now unfortunately

1945
01:27:08,954 --> 01:27:11,874
Speaker 6: more interesting to talk about the Patriots draft strategy than

1946
01:27:11,914 --> 01:27:14,234
Speaker 6: it is to talk about the Patriots. So it's just

1947
01:27:14,274 --> 01:27:17,874
Speaker 6: like everybody now needs to be a draft expert because

1948
01:27:17,914 --> 01:27:20,874
Speaker 6: it's the more interesting story to talk about what they're

1949
01:27:20,914 --> 01:27:23,354
Speaker 6: going to do in the draft. And there's been some

1950
01:27:23,354 --> 01:27:25,314
Speaker 6: some questionable takes to say that.

1951
01:27:25,554 --> 01:27:29,714
Speaker 5: And judging from your Twitter account, I'd say you're not

1952
01:27:29,794 --> 01:27:33,114
Speaker 5: a scibedo oh God fan, but.

1953
01:27:33,194 --> 01:27:36,434
Speaker 6: I mean, like it just skivvy. Look, he had a

1954
01:27:36,434 --> 01:27:38,514
Speaker 6: great game yesterday. I thought it was really cool that

1955
01:27:38,554 --> 01:27:40,794
Speaker 6: he won MVP of the game. I thought he was

1956
01:27:40,834 --> 01:27:43,234
Speaker 6: the MVP of the game. So like, good for him.

1957
01:27:43,314 --> 01:27:46,714
Speaker 6: But you know there's some people that didn't even have

1958
01:27:46,794 --> 01:27:49,434
Speaker 6: him in like the top one fifty of this draft,

1959
01:27:49,874 --> 01:27:52,874
Speaker 6: you know a week ago. Now this there will be

1960
01:27:52,954 --> 01:27:55,954
Speaker 6: people that in the league that will love the try,

1961
01:27:55,954 --> 01:27:59,514
Speaker 6: hardness and all that element of it. There will be,

1962
01:27:59,634 --> 01:28:02,994
Speaker 6: but that skill set is tough. I mean, it's one

1963
01:28:03,034 --> 01:28:04,834
Speaker 6: thing to run over a nineteen year old. It's another

1964
01:28:04,874 --> 01:28:06,434
Speaker 6: thing to run over a grun man. You know.

1965
01:28:06,514 --> 01:28:09,594
Speaker 1: But he's a big guy, Like he's thick. He's a

1966
01:28:09,594 --> 01:28:13,314
Speaker 1: big guy. He's five eleven, two fifteen, and the thing

1967
01:28:13,354 --> 01:28:14,674
Speaker 1: that I would say about him.

1968
01:28:14,554 --> 01:28:16,074
Speaker 5: Looks bigger than two fifteen.

1969
01:28:15,754 --> 01:28:18,914
Speaker 1: But he doesn't. He doesn't make anyone miss correct. So

1970
01:28:19,034 --> 01:28:22,514
Speaker 1: all of his you know yards, it's all broken tackles,

1971
01:28:23,034 --> 01:28:26,514
Speaker 1: which means very short shelf life. I think he's a

1972
01:28:26,514 --> 01:28:30,794
Speaker 1: tremendous college player. I've been talking about this guy for

1973
01:28:30,834 --> 01:28:34,074
Speaker 1: about two months when he played, when he played am

1974
01:28:34,114 --> 01:28:37,714
Speaker 1: I Wrong's guy. I fell in love with him watching

1975
01:28:37,794 --> 01:28:40,754
Speaker 1: him against BYU. I think one one night on SPN,

1976
01:28:41,554 --> 01:28:43,914
Speaker 1: happen to catch another couple of games. I've never seen

1977
01:28:43,954 --> 01:28:47,914
Speaker 1: a guy so consistently make people just like just fall

1978
01:28:47,954 --> 01:28:50,514
Speaker 1: by his wayside, like they just like bounce off of him.

1979
01:28:50,994 --> 01:28:54,594
Speaker 1: He twist, he turns, he just gets every yard. I

1980
01:28:54,674 --> 01:28:58,554
Speaker 1: just think that he's racking up all these touches in college.

1981
01:28:58,674 --> 01:29:04,794
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't get any easy yards five years max.

1982
01:29:05,074 --> 01:29:06,754
Speaker 1: Like he's going to take so many hits.

1983
01:29:07,794 --> 01:29:09,914
Speaker 6: My guess is that what's there?

1984
01:29:10,674 --> 01:29:14,754
Speaker 1: I'm telling you go watch this, go watch the watch

1985
01:29:14,794 --> 01:29:17,994
Speaker 1: the Big twelve championship game against Iowa State, and again,

1986
01:29:18,274 --> 01:29:22,194
Speaker 1: Evan's point is a thousand percent. It's a thousand percent right.

1987
01:29:22,754 --> 01:29:25,754
Speaker 1: He's bowling over guys that are playing for Eyewa State.

1988
01:29:26,074 --> 01:29:28,554
Speaker 1: You're not going to do that, you know in the NFL.

1989
01:29:29,114 --> 01:29:32,274
Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't work that way. So I love

1990
01:29:32,354 --> 01:29:35,434
Speaker 1: watching him play. He's absolutely a try hard but he

1991
01:29:35,474 --> 01:29:38,834
Speaker 1: has a lot of ability too, And I just don't

1992
01:29:38,874 --> 01:29:40,714
Speaker 1: know how good he'll be in the NFL.

1993
01:29:40,874 --> 01:29:43,234
Speaker 6: My guess is that he sneaks into the top one

1994
01:29:43,274 --> 01:29:46,874
Speaker 6: hundred because of the character and because of the intangibles.

1995
01:29:46,914 --> 01:29:49,474
Speaker 6: Like some Jim Harbaugh somebody like that is going to

1996
01:29:49,594 --> 01:29:51,034
Speaker 6: just be swooning over this guy.

1997
01:29:51,394 --> 01:29:53,994
Speaker 1: He's totally a Jim harb. That's a great call.

1998
01:29:54,434 --> 01:29:56,594
Speaker 6: Like, you know, someone like that will be like, well,

1999
01:29:56,834 --> 01:29:59,554
Speaker 6: we could take them. You know, this guy's more maybe

2000
01:29:59,554 --> 01:30:01,994
Speaker 6: physically gifted than Skataboo. But no one's going to run

2001
01:30:02,034 --> 01:30:03,834
Speaker 6: through a brick wall like this kid, is, right, no.

2002
01:30:03,834 --> 01:30:05,434
Speaker 1: One's going to yell at his lineman when they miss

2003
01:30:05,434 --> 01:30:06,554
Speaker 1: a block like this kid will.

2004
01:30:06,754 --> 01:30:08,474
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you play him a full back? I mean,

2005
01:30:08,514 --> 01:30:10,834
Speaker 6: could you mean you could? I don't know if he's

2006
01:30:10,834 --> 01:30:12,794
Speaker 6: done any lead blocking, Like I don't have.

2007
01:30:12,754 --> 01:30:15,074
Speaker 5: To be about two thirty though to be a full back.

2008
01:30:15,114 --> 01:30:17,194
Speaker 1: But to your point, he probably, like you say, he

2009
01:30:17,234 --> 01:30:20,874
Speaker 1: looks like that's just what he's listed at im. I

2010
01:30:20,954 --> 01:30:25,874
Speaker 1: have no idea. I know that they again, I'm on

2011
01:30:25,954 --> 01:30:28,434
Speaker 1: the Scataboo thing here, like I heard this whole thing

2012
01:30:28,474 --> 01:30:33,274
Speaker 1: about how last year he was considered a very selfish player,

2013
01:30:33,874 --> 01:30:36,674
Speaker 1: and the coaches were really on him. They said, you

2014
01:30:36,714 --> 01:30:38,394
Speaker 1: know what you want more? You want to want to

2015
01:30:38,434 --> 01:30:40,674
Speaker 1: maximize your bill. You need to lose weight. You're too

2016
01:30:40,714 --> 01:30:42,474
Speaker 1: heavy and you're not fat, You're not quick enough. You

2017
01:30:42,474 --> 01:30:45,314
Speaker 1: need to get in better shape. And he did. So.

2018
01:30:45,594 --> 01:30:47,954
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the whole two fifteen thing, but you know,

2019
01:30:47,994 --> 01:30:50,554
Speaker 1: he kind of isn't necessarily two fifteen anymore.

2020
01:30:52,754 --> 01:30:54,554
Speaker 6: I I just.

2021
01:30:56,674 --> 01:30:58,714
Speaker 1: I just love watching the guy play I do.

2022
01:30:58,834 --> 01:30:59,434
Speaker 8: I have to be.

2023
01:30:59,314 --> 01:31:03,434
Speaker 5: Honest, defense, Why not Patrick Ricart.

2024
01:31:03,674 --> 01:31:07,914
Speaker 1: He's throwing up in between plays and like throwing throwing bombs,

2025
01:31:07,914 --> 01:31:10,514
Speaker 1: He's catching bombs. It was unbelievable.

2026
01:31:11,274 --> 01:31:12,794
Speaker 6: It was an unbelievable college game.

2027
01:31:13,154 --> 01:31:13,594
Speaker 5: It was.

2028
01:31:13,634 --> 01:31:16,794
Speaker 1: It was unbelievably fun to watch that game, unfortunately the

2029
01:31:16,874 --> 01:31:17,314
Speaker 1: only one.

2030
01:31:17,434 --> 01:31:19,154
Speaker 8: Yeah, he gets so kind of watching these games only

2031
01:31:19,194 --> 01:31:21,314
Speaker 8: through the NFL lens instead of just watching like, here's

2032
01:31:21,354 --> 01:31:22,874
Speaker 8: a great college kid.

2033
01:31:23,514 --> 01:31:26,474
Speaker 1: And that way I look at it. I looked at it.

2034
01:31:26,474 --> 01:31:30,714
Speaker 1: There's the purity of it. I was just watching. No, seriously,

2035
01:31:30,754 --> 01:31:33,474
Speaker 1: he just Mike just nailed it, like he's a great

2036
01:31:33,474 --> 01:31:34,114
Speaker 1: college player.

2037
01:31:34,114 --> 01:31:35,314
Speaker 6: Who cares if he's sick.

2038
01:31:35,594 --> 01:31:37,154
Speaker 1: But who cares if he doesn't end up being a

2039
01:31:37,154 --> 01:31:40,714
Speaker 1: great pro player. He's a great college player. Christian Laighton.

2040
01:31:41,314 --> 01:31:41,674
Speaker 1: There you go.

2041
01:31:41,754 --> 01:31:42,834
Speaker 8: I mean I get the same thing with some of

2042
01:31:42,874 --> 01:31:44,474
Speaker 8: the high school games that I would watch where it's

2043
01:31:44,514 --> 01:31:45,914
Speaker 8: just like there's a kid on the team. You're like,

2044
01:31:45,914 --> 01:31:47,394
Speaker 8: this guy is awesome. You know, I don't know what

2045
01:31:47,474 --> 01:31:49,434
Speaker 8: you think. Yeah, it's big news. He's going to go

2046
01:31:49,474 --> 01:31:51,354
Speaker 8: to end of college is great, amazing to go play

2047
01:31:51,354 --> 01:31:51,994
Speaker 8: college football.

2048
01:31:51,994 --> 01:31:54,754
Speaker 5: But your school had one of the greatest of all times.

2049
01:31:54,474 --> 01:31:57,474
Speaker 8: Right, Cody lockbowm Gordy Lockbomb roasted like.

2050
01:31:57,634 --> 01:31:59,994
Speaker 1: So did you have to watch Gordy Lockbaum the whole time?

2051
01:32:00,034 --> 01:32:03,434
Speaker 1: It's say he's who cares?

2052
01:32:03,794 --> 01:32:04,874
Speaker 8: He's just a great athlete.

2053
01:32:04,954 --> 01:32:07,154
Speaker 6: And I will say, if there's a strength of this draft,

2054
01:32:07,274 --> 01:32:09,634
Speaker 6: it's the running back class. The running back class is

2055
01:32:09,674 --> 01:32:12,634
Speaker 6: absolutely loaded. So I do think that that hurts him

2056
01:32:12,674 --> 01:32:14,914
Speaker 6: a little bit. Like if it was a weaker running

2057
01:32:14,954 --> 01:32:16,994
Speaker 6: back class, we might be talking about him going a

2058
01:32:16,994 --> 01:32:19,874
Speaker 6: little bit higher. But this running back class goes like

2059
01:32:19,874 --> 01:32:21,074
Speaker 6: probably fifteen deep.

2060
01:32:21,394 --> 01:32:25,914
Speaker 1: So that round to Scataboo get taken in fourth listening

2061
01:32:26,034 --> 01:32:30,074
Speaker 1: be objective four, he's objective question for you, and.

2062
01:32:30,034 --> 01:32:34,434
Speaker 5: We gotta hurry Ashton gent Do you notice his helmet

2063
01:32:34,634 --> 01:32:37,073
Speaker 5: is more like a race car driver, it's got the bottom.

2064
01:32:38,074 --> 01:32:40,554
Speaker 6: I did not notice that, but I didn't. The only

2065
01:32:40,594 --> 01:32:42,714
Speaker 6: one that I did notice was that when he played

2066
01:32:42,714 --> 01:32:44,434
Speaker 6: a real team, didn't look as.

2067
01:32:44,354 --> 01:32:46,594
Speaker 5: Good as we only had one hundred and two yards.

2068
01:32:47,274 --> 01:32:48,954
Speaker 1: Carries and two fumbles.

2069
01:32:49,034 --> 01:32:51,474
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean when I'm sorry when you're not playing

2070
01:32:51,554 --> 01:32:55,154
Speaker 6: you know State, you know he's a good da.

2071
01:32:55,314 --> 01:32:56,154
Speaker 8: He's the one will need.

2072
01:32:56,114 --> 01:32:59,194
Speaker 1: To Yeah, Midgie, State's good and good in hockey.

2073
01:32:59,514 --> 01:33:01,234
Speaker 6: Interesting, it's not East Carolina.

2074
01:33:03,514 --> 01:33:06,114
Speaker 1: He was pretty good against Oregon. He has good moves,

2075
01:33:06,154 --> 01:33:06,874
Speaker 1: so that the good.

2076
01:33:07,154 --> 01:33:09,914
Speaker 6: The Oregon one is the one game that everybody cites

2077
01:33:09,954 --> 01:33:11,674
Speaker 6: with him. But what did he do? He was great

2078
01:33:11,674 --> 01:33:14,074
Speaker 6: against Oregon. Look at how they did against Ohio State.

2079
01:33:14,154 --> 01:33:22,034
Speaker 5: All right, now it's time for real this time, get

2080
01:33:22,074 --> 01:33:24,714
Speaker 5: into our picks. Paul. What happened last week?

2081
01:33:24,794 --> 01:33:27,634
Speaker 1: And it was winning? All right? Another another strong week

2082
01:33:27,674 --> 01:33:30,794
Speaker 1: for the Crew. Three way tie at the top between

2083
01:33:31,394 --> 01:33:35,554
Speaker 1: Alex Fred and Paul fourteen and two.

2084
01:33:35,954 --> 01:33:37,394
Speaker 6: Off my game this week.

2085
01:33:37,594 --> 01:33:43,074
Speaker 1: Mike thirteen and three and Evan twelve and four.

2086
01:33:43,714 --> 01:33:45,434
Speaker 6: Really good, way, I told you it was really I

2087
01:33:45,514 --> 01:33:47,754
Speaker 6: know I have had off weekend.

2088
01:33:47,674 --> 01:33:51,394
Speaker 1: With the spread Paul twelve and four, Evan eleven and five,

2089
01:33:52,434 --> 01:33:55,874
Speaker 1: Fred and Alex nine and seven, and Mike eight and eight.

2090
01:33:55,954 --> 01:33:59,594
Speaker 8: I fell apart with the spread, So overall.

2091
01:33:59,194 --> 01:34:01,994
Speaker 1: Evan I believe it just has a commanding lead that

2092
01:34:02,074 --> 01:34:05,714
Speaker 1: will not be caught one eighty three and seventy three,

2093
01:34:07,034 --> 01:34:09,714
Speaker 1: followed by Alex at one, seventy eight and seventy eight.

2094
01:34:10,754 --> 01:34:15,074
Speaker 1: Paul won seventy five and eighty one, and Mike and

2095
01:34:15,154 --> 01:34:18,594
Speaker 1: Fred Poopamoji won seventy two and eighty four double poop

2096
01:34:19,914 --> 01:34:22,354
Speaker 1: with the spread. This is a little bit more interesting

2097
01:34:22,394 --> 01:34:26,034
Speaker 1: now Evan has a double crown still one forty eight,

2098
01:34:26,114 --> 01:34:28,354
Speaker 1: one oh three and five and only a one game

2099
01:34:28,474 --> 01:34:32,554
Speaker 1: lead over Ball one forty seven, one oh four and five.

2100
01:34:33,954 --> 01:34:36,914
Speaker 1: In our quest to find out what's more important, ball

2101
01:34:36,994 --> 01:34:42,354
Speaker 1: knowing or analytics. Fred one forty two, one O nine

2102
01:34:42,354 --> 01:34:45,914
Speaker 1: and five. That's another one I promised I would eliminate

2103
01:34:46,194 --> 01:34:49,474
Speaker 1: in the new year. Fred one forty two, one O

2104
01:34:49,634 --> 01:34:53,314
Speaker 1: nine and five, Mike won forty one eleven and five,

2105
01:34:53,794 --> 01:34:57,194
Speaker 1: and Alex Poopamoji one thirty five one sixteen and five.

2106
01:34:57,474 --> 01:35:00,274
Speaker 5: Candl a really good record for everybody. The fact that

2107
01:35:00,554 --> 01:35:03,794
Speaker 5: the JOS person is that much over five hundred.

2108
01:35:03,674 --> 01:35:06,113
Speaker 1: And I would be remiss if I did not include

2109
01:35:06,114 --> 01:35:09,514
Speaker 1: the folks. This is your lock of the week pick.

2110
01:35:10,914 --> 01:35:14,994
Speaker 1: Fred wins this week he took Tampa and giving seven

2111
01:35:15,034 --> 01:35:18,914
Speaker 1: and a half and one easily over Carolina. You're now

2112
01:35:18,914 --> 01:35:21,874
Speaker 1: three and five in your block of the week. Okay,

2113
01:35:21,994 --> 01:35:23,274
Speaker 1: I can't be perfect? All right?

2114
01:35:23,634 --> 01:35:26,994
Speaker 5: All right? We start for sure, no Thursday night game,

2115
01:35:28,114 --> 01:35:32,474
Speaker 5: so we start on Saturday with a doubleheader. It starts

2116
01:35:32,514 --> 01:35:37,874
Speaker 5: at four point thirty on ESPN, ABC, ESPN plus, ESPN Deportes.

2117
01:35:37,914 --> 01:35:41,274
Speaker 5: It's the three and thirteen Browns against the eleven and

2118
01:35:41,394 --> 01:35:42,794
Speaker 5: five Ravens.

2119
01:35:43,354 --> 01:35:47,714
Speaker 1: Okay, folks, the Ravens by eighteen.

2120
01:35:48,594 --> 01:35:52,194
Speaker 5: Really, oh lord, assuming they have something to play for?

2121
01:35:53,314 --> 01:35:54,554
Speaker 1: What they have to win the division?

2122
01:35:54,674 --> 01:35:54,754
Speaker 11: Right?

2123
01:35:54,834 --> 01:35:56,594
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a lot of points.

2124
01:35:56,634 --> 01:35:57,674
Speaker 5: Ravens by eighteen.

2125
01:35:57,954 --> 01:36:01,194
Speaker 8: Yeah, divisional game. Oh man, that's a really hard pick.

2126
01:36:01,754 --> 01:36:03,834
Speaker 1: There's a chance I don't know if this has been

2127
01:36:03,954 --> 01:36:06,514
Speaker 1: named yet, but there's a chance that old friend Bailey

2128
01:36:06,674 --> 01:36:09,434
Speaker 1: Zappi Apps will be the Browns quarter Well.

2129
01:36:10,874 --> 01:36:13,634
Speaker 8: Sometimes that's right, but not today now, I don't know. Man,

2130
01:36:13,634 --> 01:36:16,114
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Baltimore. I'll lay the eighteen. That

2131
01:36:16,234 --> 01:36:19,074
Speaker 8: seems crazy, but I think they got something to play

2132
01:36:19,074 --> 01:36:20,674
Speaker 8: for and there they'll play hard.

2133
01:36:22,674 --> 01:36:26,074
Speaker 7: Too many points for me, I'll take the Ravens, but.

2134
01:36:27,074 --> 01:36:29,073
Speaker 1: Yeah, take the eighteen.

2135
01:36:31,714 --> 01:36:33,394
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing as Alex. I.

2136
01:36:33,954 --> 01:36:35,634
Speaker 6: Even though the Ravens do have something to play for,

2137
01:36:35,874 --> 01:36:37,794
Speaker 6: they're in the playoffs, like, it's not like it's a

2138
01:36:37,954 --> 01:36:39,954
Speaker 6: real do or die. So I don't think they totally

2139
01:36:40,114 --> 01:36:41,434
Speaker 6: empty the clip on this one.

2140
01:36:41,474 --> 01:36:44,714
Speaker 1: So I I, this is gonna be strange because you know,

2141
01:36:44,794 --> 01:36:47,354
Speaker 1: I don't think a whole lot of Zappy. But if

2142
01:36:47,434 --> 01:36:52,154
Speaker 1: Zappy plays, I would take the points. Yeah, dtr, I'd

2143
01:36:52,194 --> 01:36:55,834
Speaker 1: lay the points. I'm going to say that that Baltimore

2144
01:36:56,434 --> 01:36:58,314
Speaker 1: blows them out in this, I'm gonna take Baltimore.

2145
01:36:58,314 --> 01:37:02,234
Speaker 5: Boltways, the question is like, how early does the game

2146
01:37:02,274 --> 01:37:06,314
Speaker 5: declare itself and if it does, how early do the

2147
01:37:06,394 --> 01:37:08,514
Speaker 5: Ravens take their foot off the pedal? Like if they

2148
01:37:08,514 --> 01:37:09,954
Speaker 5: get a fourteen point lead, did they.

2149
01:37:09,914 --> 01:37:12,034
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point, that's a good point. Once

2150
01:37:12,034 --> 01:37:14,234
Speaker 1: the game is won, maybe they don't cover because they

2151
01:37:14,234 --> 01:37:14,834
Speaker 1: don't have to.

2152
01:37:14,914 --> 01:37:16,714
Speaker 6: That's my point. That was why.

2153
01:37:17,074 --> 01:37:19,554
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm gonna say the Ravens do not cover.

2154
01:37:20,234 --> 01:37:24,554
Speaker 1: It's not a lock. Can I change that's a swaying?

2155
01:37:24,554 --> 01:37:25,914
Speaker 1: Aren't you can to change?

2156
01:37:25,994 --> 01:37:26,194
Speaker 6: This is?

2157
01:37:26,834 --> 01:37:31,074
Speaker 1: This is a movie. Fred, I don't argue with I

2158
01:37:31,114 --> 01:37:33,234
Speaker 1: take his advice. Now, I don't argue with him anymore.

2159
01:37:33,274 --> 01:37:35,514
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Fred just suade me. That's a really good

2160
01:37:35,554 --> 01:37:38,154
Speaker 1: point I'm gonna take at.

2161
01:37:38,074 --> 01:37:39,954
Speaker 6: The same point. And he didn't say it was a

2162
01:37:39,954 --> 01:37:44,274
Speaker 6: good take everybody else, No, I just said that I

2163
01:37:44,314 --> 01:37:45,994
Speaker 6: didn't think they were going to empty the cliff to

2164
01:37:46,034 --> 01:37:46,594
Speaker 6: win this game.

2165
01:37:46,674 --> 01:37:51,194
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are a ball mo wer, all right. Now.

2166
01:37:51,234 --> 01:37:54,354
Speaker 5: We moved to Saturday night at eight o'clock again, the

2167
01:37:54,394 --> 01:37:58,994
Speaker 5: same line up ESPN, ABC, ESPN plus ESPN Deportes eight

2168
01:37:59,034 --> 01:38:03,714
Speaker 5: and eight Bengals at the ten and six Steelers Cincinnati

2169
01:38:03,754 --> 01:38:04,634
Speaker 5: by two.

2170
01:38:05,714 --> 01:38:08,674
Speaker 8: I like this game. I like it, and I think

2171
01:38:08,794 --> 01:38:10,674
Speaker 8: I'm going to go with the Bengals here. I think

2172
01:38:10,794 --> 01:38:15,154
Speaker 8: Joey Burrow feeling like pittsburghs been falling apart a little bit,

2173
01:38:15,194 --> 01:38:18,114
Speaker 8: and I just feel like Cincinnati just lay it all online,

2174
01:38:18,114 --> 01:38:20,794
Speaker 8: go out there, sling it right. Give me Cincy.

2175
01:38:21,634 --> 01:38:21,834
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2176
01:38:21,874 --> 01:38:24,034
Speaker 7: I usually like the Steelers at home to at least cover,

2177
01:38:24,194 --> 01:38:27,834
Speaker 7: but a big enough spread for me, Bengals, Bengals.

2178
01:38:29,034 --> 01:38:30,674
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pick the Steelers in this game. I know

2179
01:38:30,674 --> 01:38:34,114
Speaker 6: they've been playing poorly, but I think that they get

2180
01:38:34,754 --> 01:38:37,554
Speaker 6: back in gear this week. And for the Bengals, you

2181
01:38:37,634 --> 01:38:39,754
Speaker 6: need a lot of things to go right to make

2182
01:38:39,794 --> 01:38:42,474
Speaker 6: the playoffs. I just don't really feel like they're already

2183
01:38:42,514 --> 01:38:44,954
Speaker 6: doing press conferences where it sounds like they are kind

2184
01:38:44,954 --> 01:38:47,594
Speaker 6: of turn the page a little bit. So I'm gonna

2185
01:38:47,594 --> 01:38:48,153
Speaker 6: go Pittsburgh.

2186
01:38:48,314 --> 01:38:52,034
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will say that Pittsburgh is gonna take

2187
01:38:52,074 --> 01:38:56,074
Speaker 1: the field knowing that they can't move because Baltimore is

2188
01:38:56,114 --> 01:38:58,794
Speaker 1: gonna have won, which I find surprising that they allowed

2189
01:38:58,794 --> 01:39:01,114
Speaker 1: that to happen. The NFL, you guys, you know you

2190
01:39:01,154 --> 01:39:03,914
Speaker 1: and you're ilk Fred that are so worried about the

2191
01:39:03,914 --> 01:39:06,874
Speaker 1: competitive balance of these games that they set it up

2192
01:39:06,954 --> 01:39:10,754
Speaker 1: like this. I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways because I

2193
01:39:11,074 --> 01:39:13,674
Speaker 1: do agree that Pittsburgh needs to play better, but I'm

2194
01:39:13,674 --> 01:39:15,314
Speaker 1: not sure that they'll be emotionally in it.

2195
01:39:15,634 --> 01:39:18,274
Speaker 5: Yeah. Three weeks ago, I had Mike Tomlin as my

2196
01:39:18,354 --> 01:39:21,194
Speaker 5: coach of the Year, but the way the Steelers have

2197
01:39:21,274 --> 01:39:24,394
Speaker 5: kind of fallen off like I didn't, he hasn't gotten

2198
01:39:24,394 --> 01:39:27,114
Speaker 5: these guys playing the way I thought they would down

2199
01:39:27,114 --> 01:39:30,114
Speaker 5: the stretch. Uh So I'm gonna go with my hated

2200
01:39:30,154 --> 01:39:35,274
Speaker 5: Bengals both ways to win this game. Plus Joe Burrow,

2201
01:39:36,034 --> 01:39:39,074
Speaker 5: I think incredible season. Yeah, and if he has, if

2202
01:39:39,114 --> 01:39:41,554
Speaker 5: he finishes with a big, big game, he could have

2203
01:39:41,634 --> 01:39:44,834
Speaker 5: over forty five hundred yards and over forty touchdowns or

2204
01:39:44,834 --> 01:39:47,314
Speaker 5: something like that, and he'd be one of five players

2205
01:39:47,474 --> 01:39:49,234
Speaker 5: to do that or something like that.

2206
01:39:49,674 --> 01:39:49,754
Speaker 1: Ye.

2207
01:39:49,874 --> 01:39:52,674
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm gonna go with Bengals both ways. I

2208
01:39:52,714 --> 01:39:53,794
Speaker 5: think they pilot.

2209
01:39:53,874 --> 01:39:55,754
Speaker 1: Already be in the forties, right ye for a touch

2210
01:39:55,794 --> 01:39:56,154
Speaker 1: something like.

2211
01:39:56,154 --> 01:39:57,594
Speaker 5: That, it's forty five and forty five.

2212
01:39:57,634 --> 01:40:00,434
Speaker 6: Maybe spend a very good quarterback here at.

2213
01:40:00,314 --> 01:40:03,474
Speaker 1: The top, I mean when Patrick Mahomes is not a

2214
01:40:03,514 --> 01:40:03,954
Speaker 1: pro bowler.

2215
01:40:04,114 --> 01:40:05,074
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2216
01:40:05,594 --> 01:40:08,394
Speaker 5: Sunday at one CBS four and twelve, Panthers at the

2217
01:40:08,394 --> 01:40:10,874
Speaker 5: eight and eight Falcons Bowl.

2218
01:40:10,874 --> 01:40:15,114
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, Panthers Falcons Atlanta by eight.

2219
01:40:16,274 --> 01:40:21,194
Speaker 8: Boy takes yikes. I'll take it La at home, but

2220
01:40:21,234 --> 01:40:26,394
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the points for Carolina Division game. Atlanta's

2221
01:40:26,394 --> 01:40:27,474
Speaker 8: still in it, right are they out?

2222
01:40:27,914 --> 01:40:30,314
Speaker 1: They are still in it. They need a Tampa loss

2223
01:40:30,354 --> 01:40:31,154
Speaker 1: at home to New Orlean.

2224
01:40:31,234 --> 01:40:32,594
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll take Atlanta to win, but I'll take the

2225
01:40:32,594 --> 01:40:33,954
Speaker 8: points for Carolina. It's a close one.

2226
01:40:34,234 --> 01:40:35,554
Speaker 7: I will also split the baby.

2227
01:40:36,914 --> 01:40:39,594
Speaker 6: I've been I liking Carolina, but they got blown out

2228
01:40:39,714 --> 01:40:41,914
Speaker 6: last week by Tampa Bay, so I think that they

2229
01:40:41,954 --> 01:40:45,234
Speaker 6: have let go of the rope. I'm taking Atlanta both ways.

2230
01:40:45,474 --> 01:40:47,994
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways too, because I

2231
01:40:48,034 --> 01:40:52,354
Speaker 1: think Michael Pennix has given the offense a you know,

2232
01:40:52,434 --> 01:40:55,034
Speaker 1: a lift. So I think there'll be too many points

2233
01:40:55,074 --> 01:40:55,754
Speaker 1: for Carolina.

2234
01:40:56,034 --> 01:40:59,634
Speaker 5: Yeah. I this is a lock of the week. Falcons cover,

2235
01:41:00,754 --> 01:41:01,674
Speaker 5: Falcons cover.

2236
01:41:01,594 --> 01:41:04,274
Speaker 1: The falcons covering is the lock of the week. Yeah,

2237
01:41:04,874 --> 01:41:08,794
Speaker 1: asterisk is that I got it? Okay, I got it.

2238
01:41:09,634 --> 01:41:13,314
Speaker 5: Fox at one o'clock, eleven and five, Commanders at the

2239
01:41:13,474 --> 01:41:14,474
Speaker 5: seven and nine.

2240
01:41:14,314 --> 01:41:19,194
Speaker 1: Cowboys Washington by four and a half.

2241
01:41:21,234 --> 01:41:22,554
Speaker 8: Does this game mean anything?

2242
01:41:24,114 --> 01:41:27,274
Speaker 1: I do not know if Washington can move seeds. Yeah,

2243
01:41:28,514 --> 01:41:30,314
Speaker 1: and I know that, but I don't know if they can.

2244
01:41:31,194 --> 01:41:33,474
Speaker 8: I'll take Washington to win. I'll take the points for Dallas.

2245
01:41:33,514 --> 01:41:34,754
Speaker 8: I think it's a close one.

2246
01:41:37,914 --> 01:41:39,554
Speaker 7: I'll take Washington. I'll lay the points.

2247
01:41:40,834 --> 01:41:43,714
Speaker 6: So I thought that Dallas was actually playing pretty hard

2248
01:41:43,754 --> 01:41:45,874
Speaker 6: down the stretch here, considering that they've been out of

2249
01:41:45,874 --> 01:41:48,114
Speaker 6: it for a while, and then last week happened. They

2250
01:41:48,154 --> 01:41:50,834
Speaker 6: lose forty one to seven, to a backup quarterback, So

2251
01:41:50,914 --> 01:41:52,434
Speaker 6: I'm taking Washington both ways.

2252
01:41:52,514 --> 01:41:53,994
Speaker 1: Ended up being the third string quarterback.

2253
01:41:54,114 --> 01:41:55,714
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's an ugly loss.

2254
01:41:55,794 --> 01:41:59,114
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Washington both ways as well. Even

2255
01:41:59,154 --> 01:42:01,394
Speaker 1: if they can't improve their seed, I think they have

2256
01:42:01,474 --> 01:42:02,114
Speaker 1: more to play for.

2257
01:42:02,234 --> 01:42:05,554
Speaker 5: Obviously, the fact that the Cowboys got blown out last week.

2258
01:42:06,034 --> 01:42:08,914
Speaker 5: I was trying to talk myself into them. They're gonna

2259
01:42:08,914 --> 01:42:11,474
Speaker 5: come back and play hard and cover, but I'm gonna

2260
01:42:11,514 --> 01:42:14,914
Speaker 5: go with the Commanders both ways. I just can't talk

2261
01:42:14,954 --> 01:42:18,674
Speaker 5: myself into taking the Cowboys. All right, one o'clock on Fox,

2262
01:42:18,754 --> 01:42:21,754
Speaker 5: the four and twelve Bears at the eleven and five

2263
01:42:21,914 --> 01:42:23,314
Speaker 5: Packers the.

2264
01:42:23,354 --> 01:42:24,154
Speaker 1: Pack by ten.

2265
01:42:25,674 --> 01:42:30,354
Speaker 8: Oh boy, it's these huge spreads like every game. I'm

2266
01:42:30,394 --> 01:42:32,234
Speaker 8: just tempted to say that they're gonna be closed. Take

2267
01:42:32,234 --> 01:42:35,034
Speaker 8: the favorite, but they're gonna be closed. But uh, you know,

2268
01:42:35,154 --> 01:42:37,194
Speaker 8: green Bay tough loss. I'm gonna I'm gonna take green Bay.

2269
01:42:37,194 --> 01:42:40,154
Speaker 8: I'll lay the points. Bounce back at home against Chicago.

2270
01:42:40,074 --> 01:42:42,634
Speaker 7: I feel the same way.

2271
01:42:44,154 --> 01:42:48,234
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean green Bay is really locked into where

2272
01:42:48,234 --> 01:42:51,474
Speaker 6: they are, like they can't win the division. Obviously, even

2273
01:42:51,514 --> 01:42:53,474
Speaker 6: playing everybody in this game, I feel like this might

2274
01:42:53,514 --> 01:42:54,154
Speaker 6: be a rest game.

2275
01:42:54,234 --> 01:42:54,754
Speaker 1: I don't know to.

2276
01:42:55,034 --> 01:42:56,834
Speaker 5: Judging by the spread, I think they might be.

2277
01:42:56,874 --> 01:42:59,794
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take green Bay, but I'm gonna take Chicago

2278
01:42:59,834 --> 01:43:02,154
Speaker 6: to cover because i don't know. I don't know if

2279
01:43:02,154 --> 01:43:03,794
Speaker 6: green Bay is playing for anything in this game.

2280
01:43:04,154 --> 01:43:06,994
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing a team that is not good. So

2281
01:43:07,034 --> 01:43:09,514
Speaker 1: I'll take green Bay both ways. When they play teams

2282
01:43:09,514 --> 01:43:13,354
Speaker 1: with pulses, they lose. Yeah, Detroit twice, lost in Minnesota, twice,

2283
01:43:13,394 --> 01:43:14,394
Speaker 1: lost in Philadelphia.

2284
01:43:14,634 --> 01:43:16,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the wisdom of the big houses,

2285
01:43:16,954 --> 01:43:18,914
Speaker 5: and I'll say that the Packers.

2286
01:43:18,474 --> 01:43:19,874
Speaker 1: The big houses too cover.

2287
01:43:20,914 --> 01:43:24,314
Speaker 5: That's you know, the big ones like Caesars.

2288
01:43:23,754 --> 01:43:27,594
Speaker 1: And Yeah, MG, Sid Diamond, I'm with you.

2289
01:43:27,794 --> 01:43:28,594
Speaker 5: I have a Sid Diamond.

2290
01:43:30,714 --> 01:43:32,474
Speaker 1: It's still around. I doubt it.

2291
01:43:32,794 --> 01:43:33,914
Speaker 5: What was he Bally's.

2292
01:43:34,234 --> 01:43:34,954
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

2293
01:43:35,034 --> 01:43:38,634
Speaker 5: I think he was Bally's. You might have been not

2294
01:43:38,714 --> 01:43:40,754
Speaker 5: the Tropic. He was one of those old school ones,

2295
01:43:41,514 --> 01:43:42,034
Speaker 5: the Tropic.

2296
01:43:42,834 --> 01:43:42,994
Speaker 15: Uh.

2297
01:43:44,194 --> 01:43:47,994
Speaker 5: Sunday at one on Fox, the four and twelve Jaguars

2298
01:43:48,154 --> 01:43:52,954
Speaker 5: at the seven and nine Colts Indy by five.

2299
01:43:53,154 --> 01:43:56,994
Speaker 8: F yikes, Mac Jones closing it out.

2300
01:43:57,074 --> 01:43:57,754
Speaker 9: Huh.

2301
01:43:58,114 --> 01:44:02,154
Speaker 8: These games are so terrible. Gross loss to for Indy

2302
01:44:02,234 --> 01:44:05,194
Speaker 8: last week. I'm going to take Jacksonville on the road

2303
01:44:05,234 --> 01:44:07,113
Speaker 8: with an upset Go Mac.

2304
01:44:08,834 --> 01:44:09,194
Speaker 5: Colts.

2305
01:44:09,194 --> 01:44:13,314
Speaker 6: Colts, I think we all should be thanking Mac Jones

2306
01:44:13,794 --> 01:44:17,674
Speaker 6: for winning that game last week for the Patriots, and

2307
01:44:17,914 --> 01:44:21,954
Speaker 6: I I'm going to take him again. I really liked

2308
01:44:22,394 --> 01:44:24,874
Speaker 6: what I've seen out of Brian Thomas Junior. I think

2309
01:44:24,874 --> 01:44:27,634
Speaker 6: he is the real deal, and I think he has

2310
01:44:27,674 --> 01:44:30,474
Speaker 6: another big game against the Colts defense that has really

2311
01:44:30,514 --> 01:44:31,194
Speaker 6: struggled here.

2312
01:44:31,914 --> 01:44:34,193
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about the quarterback

2313
01:44:34,194 --> 01:44:36,114
Speaker 1: class and how good they've been, and they have been

2314
01:44:36,474 --> 01:44:39,554
Speaker 1: all of them, but the wide receiver class, so some

2315
01:44:39,594 --> 01:44:42,554
Speaker 1: good rookie years for wide receivers like Brian Thomas that

2316
01:44:42,554 --> 01:44:45,234
Speaker 1: that have mentioned. I'll take Jacksonville to US boys, not

2317
01:44:45,314 --> 01:44:45,714
Speaker 1: all of them.

2318
01:44:46,034 --> 01:44:49,314
Speaker 5: If this game was in Jacksonville, I'd be picking the Jaguars.

2319
01:44:49,354 --> 01:44:52,754
Speaker 5: But the Colts win. But they do not cover. They

2320
01:44:52,794 --> 01:44:53,474
Speaker 5: do not cover.

2321
01:44:54,634 --> 01:44:55,394
Speaker 1: So there you go.

2322
01:44:56,154 --> 01:45:00,554
Speaker 5: Sunday at one CBS, the three and thirteen Giants at

2323
01:45:00,594 --> 01:45:02,594
Speaker 5: the thirteen and three Eagles.

2324
01:45:03,594 --> 01:45:09,434
Speaker 1: Uh the Eagles by three. Evidently no Saquon no anybody? Yeah?

2325
01:45:09,514 --> 01:45:14,314
Speaker 8: No, can he Piickett? Who is the quarterback number three?

2326
01:45:14,354 --> 01:45:20,554
Speaker 8: H gosh, I'm not sure. I'll take Philly at home

2327
01:45:20,754 --> 01:45:22,314
Speaker 8: it's just hard with it. You don't know who's playing

2328
01:45:22,434 --> 01:45:26,914
Speaker 8: or yeah, I'm just I play for.

2329
01:45:29,114 --> 01:45:29,514
Speaker 1: Philly.

2330
01:45:30,714 --> 01:45:33,154
Speaker 6: I'm taking Philly both ways. I just it's a culture

2331
01:45:33,234 --> 01:45:35,634
Speaker 6: win for the Eagles. I just think that the Giants

2332
01:45:35,674 --> 01:45:38,674
Speaker 6: culture is broken and that Tanne McKee can kind of sling.

2333
01:45:38,434 --> 01:45:41,594
Speaker 8: It Philly Giants that are like, we gotta beat them.

2334
01:45:41,594 --> 01:45:42,834
Speaker 3: They took from us.

2335
01:45:43,114 --> 01:45:43,994
Speaker 8: We gotta show them.

2336
01:45:47,394 --> 01:45:52,674
Speaker 1: Just I'm gonna take Philly both ways. But the way

2337
01:45:52,714 --> 01:45:55,234
Speaker 1: the Giants played last week, that you know, they probably

2338
01:45:55,234 --> 01:45:56,554
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about themselves.

2339
01:45:58,154 --> 01:45:58,514
Speaker 8: Neighbors.

2340
01:45:58,554 --> 01:46:00,794
Speaker 5: So did any of you guys hear this rumor that

2341
01:46:00,834 --> 01:46:03,914
Speaker 5: the Giants already had a what if deal with the Patriots?

2342
01:46:04,314 --> 01:46:05,994
Speaker 5: What what like?

2343
01:46:06,114 --> 01:46:07,074
Speaker 1: What if? What like?

2344
01:46:07,834 --> 01:46:10,794
Speaker 5: Wherever we like, we'll have a you'll you'll talk to

2345
01:46:10,874 --> 01:46:16,554
Speaker 5: us about trading trading one pick this year, like depending

2346
01:46:16,594 --> 01:46:21,514
Speaker 5: on where we end up. They have scenarios for No.

2347
01:46:21,554 --> 01:46:24,154
Speaker 1: I haven't where was this eminating? I I just asked

2348
01:46:24,194 --> 01:46:26,034
Speaker 1: you if you've heard that. I have not neither of

2349
01:46:26,074 --> 01:46:35,074
Speaker 1: I but he's challenging me. I can't even make it

2350
01:46:35,074 --> 01:46:35,834
Speaker 1: through a whole show.

2351
01:46:38,034 --> 01:46:41,474
Speaker 5: I got I got you there, Huh, what are talking?

2352
01:46:42,714 --> 01:46:45,994
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Giants winning and the football

2353
01:46:46,034 --> 01:46:51,714
Speaker 5: God saying she serves the Eagles. Right, Yeah, giants win

2354
01:46:51,794 --> 01:46:56,114
Speaker 5: the game, would because you played to win. I told

2355
01:46:56,114 --> 01:47:00,314
Speaker 5: the story about John Maddens sent Tom Coughlin a letter

2356
01:47:00,514 --> 01:47:03,354
Speaker 5: after that seven game where the Giants played to win

2357
01:47:03,834 --> 01:47:06,114
Speaker 5: the last game of the season, saying, thank you for

2358
01:47:06,194 --> 01:47:09,034
Speaker 5: playing football the way it's supposed to be played. Play

2359
01:47:09,114 --> 01:47:10,954
Speaker 5: to win every game.

2360
01:47:11,314 --> 01:47:11,754
Speaker 6: That's fair.

2361
01:47:11,954 --> 01:47:14,674
Speaker 5: He said, I'm almost a little emotional writing this letter

2362
01:47:14,754 --> 01:47:14,954
Speaker 5: to you.

2363
01:47:15,514 --> 01:47:17,554
Speaker 6: I just will never forget. Wes Welker tearing his.

2364
01:47:17,514 --> 01:47:20,394
Speaker 1: A c L Week seventeen in Houston.

2365
01:47:21,594 --> 01:47:25,354
Speaker 6: Woll do you have to be out there they We're

2366
01:47:25,354 --> 01:47:26,274
Speaker 6: gonna get them out quick.

2367
01:47:27,474 --> 01:47:30,834
Speaker 1: They lost, They lost the game that you insisted they won,

2368
01:47:31,114 --> 01:47:32,354
Speaker 1: and they lost their best.

2369
01:47:32,114 --> 01:47:34,994
Speaker 6: Player and they lost in the million.

2370
01:47:35,234 --> 01:47:38,314
Speaker 1: Yeah, before anybody jumps on me, non Brady category.

2371
01:47:38,434 --> 01:47:43,914
Speaker 5: Yeah, one o'clock on Fox, the five and eleven Saints

2372
01:47:44,274 --> 01:47:47,274
Speaker 5: are at the nine and seven Buccaneers.

2373
01:47:46,954 --> 01:47:50,634
Speaker 1: Bucks Winker Bacon and they win the division. They're favored

2374
01:47:50,634 --> 01:47:53,234
Speaker 1: by thirteen and a half to do so well.

2375
01:47:53,274 --> 01:47:55,914
Speaker 8: Definitely taking Tampa. I'm gonna go Tampa all the way.

2376
01:47:55,994 --> 01:47:58,434
Speaker 8: I think they they come out and blow doors get

2377
01:47:58,434 --> 01:47:59,114
Speaker 8: in the playoffs.

2378
01:47:59,754 --> 01:48:00,594
Speaker 7: Tampa, Tampa.

2379
01:48:02,234 --> 01:48:04,554
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Tampa, but I'm gonna take the Saints

2380
01:48:04,594 --> 01:48:06,914
Speaker 6: to cover because I just feel like Tampa's got a

2381
01:48:06,954 --> 01:48:09,634
Speaker 6: little bit of that, you know. They just get a

2382
01:48:09,674 --> 01:48:13,674
Speaker 6: little choking them sometimes and like just a little tight button,

2383
01:48:13,674 --> 01:48:16,674
Speaker 6: you know. And I just think that they Yeah, I

2384
01:48:16,754 --> 01:48:18,914
Speaker 6: think they win, but I think it's a little closer

2385
01:48:18,914 --> 01:48:19,354
Speaker 6: than they want to.

2386
01:48:19,474 --> 01:48:23,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points Tampa both ways. I

2387
01:48:23,354 --> 01:48:24,394
Speaker 1: think they blow doors.

2388
01:48:24,474 --> 01:48:26,634
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think they score too many points. And

2389
01:48:27,194 --> 01:48:29,434
Speaker 5: if there's one way you can kind of lay down

2390
01:48:29,434 --> 01:48:32,154
Speaker 5: in a game, it's defensively, you know, and.

2391
01:48:32,434 --> 01:48:34,714
Speaker 1: Especially if you don't have any offense to sort of

2392
01:48:35,114 --> 01:48:35,754
Speaker 1: get in a fight.

2393
01:48:35,954 --> 01:48:41,474
Speaker 5: Yep. So Buccaneers cover one o'clock on CBS nine and seven.

2394
01:48:41,594 --> 01:48:44,394
Speaker 5: Texans at the three and thirteen Titans.

2395
01:48:44,634 --> 01:48:47,354
Speaker 1: Evidently Houston is laying down in this game because the

2396
01:48:47,394 --> 01:48:48,874
Speaker 1: Titans are favored by one and a half.

2397
01:48:49,074 --> 01:48:55,674
Speaker 8: Say what, that's weird. I don't believe them. I'm going

2398
01:48:55,674 --> 01:48:56,154
Speaker 8: with Houston.

2399
01:48:59,154 --> 01:49:03,114
Speaker 6: Me too, Me too. I think all these games where

2400
01:49:03,154 --> 01:49:06,434
Speaker 6: guy teams are resting people, I don't think it outweighs

2401
01:49:06,474 --> 01:49:09,314
Speaker 6: the fact that they're winning teams and they actually have

2402
01:49:09,634 --> 01:49:12,234
Speaker 6: a winning culture and people actually want to be playing

2403
01:49:12,394 --> 01:49:13,154
Speaker 6: for their times.

2404
01:49:13,234 --> 01:49:14,594
Speaker 1: So it's a good way of putting it.

2405
01:49:14,634 --> 01:49:15,794
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go Houston.

2406
01:49:15,874 --> 01:49:18,474
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Texans both ways, me too.

2407
01:49:19,234 --> 01:49:22,274
Speaker 5: All right, now we move to the second half because

2408
01:49:22,274 --> 01:49:26,794
Speaker 5: we're skipping over the Patriots. At one o'clock, we go

2409
01:49:26,874 --> 01:49:29,594
Speaker 5: to four to twenty five, No. Four or five games

2410
01:49:29,834 --> 01:49:32,874
Speaker 5: on Fox, the six and ten forty nine Ers at

2411
01:49:32,874 --> 01:49:35,474
Speaker 5: the seven to nine Cardinals Evans Cardinals.

2412
01:49:35,714 --> 01:49:42,074
Speaker 1: Yes, Arizona by four, he said, Mark, I thank Do

2413
01:49:42,114 --> 01:49:42,874
Speaker 1: you have it the other way?

2414
01:49:43,554 --> 01:49:45,914
Speaker 8: I don't have it actually right now?

2415
01:49:46,274 --> 01:49:49,234
Speaker 1: Okay, that is what they have. No brock party, Arizona

2416
01:49:49,274 --> 01:49:50,754
Speaker 1: by four. Yes, no brock party.

2417
01:49:50,794 --> 01:49:53,754
Speaker 8: They echo, Arizona at home. Then with that one, is.

2418
01:49:53,754 --> 01:49:54,754
Speaker 5: It because he's hurt?

2419
01:49:55,114 --> 01:49:56,594
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got hurt.

2420
01:49:56,634 --> 01:49:57,114
Speaker 4: Later in the game.

2421
01:49:57,234 --> 01:50:01,194
Speaker 6: You might have a tennis elbow. Really yeah, I know

2422
01:50:01,274 --> 01:50:01,794
Speaker 6: something about that.

2423
01:50:02,314 --> 01:50:07,834
Speaker 5: A little straps on it, strap it on, Brett, that's

2424
01:50:09,234 --> 01:50:11,714
Speaker 5: it can be. Yeah, I had it. You couldn't even

2425
01:50:11,914 --> 01:50:12,834
Speaker 5: lift a can of coke.

2426
01:50:13,674 --> 01:50:14,674
Speaker 6: That's why I asked you about it.

2427
01:50:15,114 --> 01:50:16,034
Speaker 5: Or pepsi.

2428
01:50:17,754 --> 01:50:18,434
Speaker 7: Zona Zona.

2429
01:50:20,274 --> 01:50:23,714
Speaker 6: Uh. I am going to go with the forty nine

2430
01:50:23,754 --> 01:50:25,754
Speaker 6: ers in this game. I feel like I like how

2431
01:50:25,794 --> 01:50:28,634
Speaker 6: they've played, even though they didn't beat Detroit. I thought

2432
01:50:28,674 --> 01:50:31,274
Speaker 6: they were they tried, they were competitive.

2433
01:50:30,874 --> 01:50:33,034
Speaker 8: Just trying to save Kyle she and his job as well.

2434
01:50:33,194 --> 01:50:35,674
Speaker 6: They already said he's coming back, That's what they said.

2435
01:50:35,714 --> 01:50:37,394
Speaker 6: The fact that we even had to ask the question

2436
01:50:37,594 --> 01:50:38,474
Speaker 6: is ridiculous.

2437
01:50:38,554 --> 01:50:40,434
Speaker 5: So who's throwing for the forty nine ers?

2438
01:50:40,834 --> 01:50:45,394
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen maybe sounds he played the other game that

2439
01:50:46,234 --> 01:50:51,914
Speaker 1: party couldn't play any good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm taking Arizona

2440
01:50:51,954 --> 01:50:52,354
Speaker 1: both ways.

2441
01:50:52,434 --> 01:50:56,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, Josh Dobbs, Sorry, Josh Dobbs.

2442
01:50:56,834 --> 01:50:58,994
Speaker 6: I came into the game last week.

2443
01:50:59,034 --> 01:51:00,274
Speaker 1: I'll double down in Arizona.

2444
01:51:00,594 --> 01:51:05,074
Speaker 5: Four cbs, the fifteen and one Chiefs at the nine

2445
01:51:05,114 --> 01:51:06,794
Speaker 5: and seven Bronco Huge game.

2446
01:51:07,234 --> 01:51:09,554
Speaker 1: This is the big game in the AFC that affects

2447
01:51:09,754 --> 01:51:12,714
Speaker 1: a lot of other teams. Denver by ten and a half.

2448
01:51:13,994 --> 01:51:16,714
Speaker 5: Geez, yeah, that's a lot.

2449
01:51:16,874 --> 01:51:18,514
Speaker 8: I like Denver to win. I'm gonna take the points.

2450
01:51:18,514 --> 01:51:21,994
Speaker 8: So I just I even you said everybody in Kansas City,

2451
01:51:22,034 --> 01:51:23,914
Speaker 8: I still see him keeping it close in the division.

2452
01:51:23,954 --> 01:51:27,074
Speaker 8: So I'll take Kansas City the points.

2453
01:51:27,074 --> 01:51:32,194
Speaker 6: Same is Pat playing, No he's not. But I'm gonna

2454
01:51:32,194 --> 01:51:33,994
Speaker 6: do the same thing because I'm sticking with my culture

2455
01:51:33,994 --> 01:51:36,674
Speaker 6: theme here. I think Kansas City has got enough fight

2456
01:51:36,714 --> 01:51:40,114
Speaker 6: in them to keep it competitive. Good defense, but I'm

2457
01:51:40,114 --> 01:51:41,034
Speaker 6: gonna take Broncos to win.

2458
01:51:41,034 --> 01:51:43,434
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your culture thing a step further. I'll

2459
01:51:43,434 --> 01:51:44,834
Speaker 1: take Kansas City to win the game.

2460
01:51:44,954 --> 01:51:46,554
Speaker 6: I like that.

2461
01:51:46,154 --> 01:51:50,714
Speaker 1: That's a no no, no, no no no. That's just just

2462
01:51:50,754 --> 01:51:53,354
Speaker 1: an upset that I think they might be a little

2463
01:51:53,514 --> 01:51:55,954
Speaker 1: little choke going on with with Denver. I thought they

2464
01:51:55,954 --> 01:51:58,114
Speaker 1: were playing for a tie last week. I didn't care

2465
01:51:58,154 --> 01:52:00,674
Speaker 1: for that, even though the tie got them in the playoffs.

2466
01:52:01,514 --> 01:52:05,114
Speaker 1: They did they then he admitted it. Peyton admitted it

2467
01:52:05,114 --> 01:52:07,594
Speaker 1: after the game. Then, Yeah, we knew what tie would

2468
01:52:07,794 --> 01:52:08,834
Speaker 1: get us in the playoffs.

2469
01:52:09,034 --> 01:52:11,754
Speaker 5: Defense does travel, and when you're playing the Broncos, you

2470
01:52:11,874 --> 01:52:13,113
Speaker 5: always have to travel.

2471
01:52:13,634 --> 01:52:14,634
Speaker 1: Uh.

2472
01:52:14,674 --> 01:52:19,594
Speaker 5: So the Chiefs cover. They don't win, but uh but

2473
01:52:19,674 --> 01:52:20,354
Speaker 5: they do cover.

2474
01:52:20,874 --> 01:52:22,914
Speaker 1: So everybody likes the points. Anyway.

2475
01:52:23,354 --> 01:52:28,914
Speaker 5: Yep, Bronco was nine and seven. That mirrors their home schedule.

2476
01:52:30,994 --> 01:52:33,354
Speaker 1: Uh, quit on the first one. That's much better.

2477
01:52:35,314 --> 01:52:39,394
Speaker 5: I couldn't follow through with that and fox the nine

2478
01:52:39,394 --> 01:52:42,914
Speaker 5: and seven Seahawks at the ten and six Rams.

2479
01:52:42,714 --> 01:52:47,914
Speaker 1: Uh the Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, ROMs Seattle by six and

2480
01:52:47,954 --> 01:52:52,034
Speaker 1: a half. I'm sorry all the way around, Rams by

2481
01:52:52,074 --> 01:52:52,394
Speaker 1: six and a.

2482
01:52:52,354 --> 01:52:56,074
Speaker 6: Half because I have Seattle is Stafford her? Maybe you

2483
01:52:56,154 --> 01:52:57,874
Speaker 6: had that Stafford her.

2484
01:52:57,954 --> 01:52:59,594
Speaker 1: Stafford's not playing, he's resting.

2485
01:52:59,794 --> 01:53:01,154
Speaker 5: So Rams are locked in.

2486
01:53:01,274 --> 01:53:05,354
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, I haven't sure because I have it as

2487
01:53:05,394 --> 01:53:07,914
Speaker 1: Seattle because I wrote plus six and a half. Oh

2488
01:53:07,914 --> 01:53:10,034
Speaker 1: wait a minute, no, yeah, yes, it's Seattle's favorite. I

2489
01:53:10,594 --> 01:53:12,794
Speaker 1: have it written right, I just read it wrong. Gotcha,

2490
01:53:12,874 --> 01:53:15,234
Speaker 1: Seattle by six and a half. This game is at

2491
01:53:15,274 --> 01:53:16,834
Speaker 1: galar uh.

2492
01:53:17,674 --> 01:53:19,834
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep going weird with splitting the baby. I

2493
01:53:19,874 --> 01:53:21,274
Speaker 8: would take the Rams to win, but I'll take the

2494
01:53:21,314 --> 01:53:22,234
Speaker 8: points for Seattle.

2495
01:53:24,354 --> 01:53:27,874
Speaker 1: What no, see that's favored by that's my fault. I

2496
01:53:27,874 --> 01:53:29,794
Speaker 1: read it. Oh my sorry, Seattle's favored by six and

2497
01:53:29,834 --> 01:53:30,074
Speaker 1: a half.

2498
01:53:30,114 --> 01:53:31,634
Speaker 8: I got you. I'll take Seattle out right then?

2499
01:53:32,514 --> 01:53:34,994
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too, So Seattle's eliminated.

2500
01:53:35,394 --> 01:53:37,594
Speaker 1: Yes, strength of victory.

2501
01:53:37,674 --> 01:53:39,274
Speaker 8: Where's the program?

2502
01:53:39,354 --> 01:53:39,594
Speaker 4: Now?

2503
01:53:40,074 --> 01:53:42,474
Speaker 8: I'm gonna who's got the better program?

2504
01:53:43,554 --> 01:53:46,314
Speaker 6: You're so right, you're so right, And I'm gonna go

2505
01:53:46,354 --> 01:53:49,474
Speaker 6: with the Rams because you know I'm sticking with the pants.

2506
01:53:49,554 --> 01:53:51,154
Speaker 6: Are Rams to win?

2507
01:53:51,434 --> 01:53:54,194
Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with that. Jimme go up. Yeah, I

2508
01:53:54,234 --> 01:53:57,714
Speaker 1: mean I think Garoppolo is you know, he's a competent quarterback.

2509
01:53:57,714 --> 01:53:59,114
Speaker 1: They should be able to move the ball and put

2510
01:53:59,154 --> 01:54:00,714
Speaker 1: some points on the board. I'll take the Rams to

2511
01:54:00,754 --> 01:54:01,994
Speaker 1: win at home. I am too.

2512
01:54:02,194 --> 01:54:04,314
Speaker 5: I think Garoppolo still thinks he can start in this

2513
01:54:04,394 --> 01:54:07,274
Speaker 5: league and it's a good day to prove it. So

2514
01:54:07,434 --> 01:54:10,394
Speaker 5: Rams win four to twenty five, CBS ten and six.

2515
01:54:10,594 --> 01:54:14,634
Speaker 5: Chargers coming off a huge win against the four and

2516
01:54:14,714 --> 01:54:15,554
Speaker 5: twelve Raiders.

2517
01:54:15,874 --> 01:54:17,514
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lack by four and a half.

2518
01:54:18,194 --> 01:54:20,634
Speaker 6: Oh, they're predicting that they're gonna rest and they're in.

2519
01:54:20,634 --> 01:54:23,514
Speaker 8: They're definitely arrest some people. But you know what, it's

2520
01:54:23,594 --> 01:54:27,474
Speaker 8: another culture game division. I'm gonna take the lack, Lack

2521
01:54:27,554 --> 01:54:31,234
Speaker 8: and lay the Chargers. Okay, lack and lay.

2522
01:54:31,394 --> 01:54:33,514
Speaker 6: I'm doing the same thing. I'm sticking to my guns

2523
01:54:33,514 --> 01:54:37,114
Speaker 6: on this one. I think the Raiders are they might

2524
01:54:37,154 --> 01:54:39,274
Speaker 6: be firing a coach come Monday morning. I think that

2525
01:54:39,274 --> 01:54:41,874
Speaker 6: that team is in for an overhaul again.

2526
01:54:42,274 --> 01:54:43,074
Speaker 1: One two in a row.

2527
01:54:43,314 --> 01:54:44,314
Speaker 6: Chargers frisky.

2528
01:54:44,434 --> 01:54:45,354
Speaker 8: They're playing hard for him.

2529
01:54:46,314 --> 01:54:48,994
Speaker 5: There are a certain part owner is gonna walk in

2530
01:54:49,034 --> 01:54:49,394
Speaker 5: on Monday.

2531
01:54:49,394 --> 01:54:53,314
Speaker 7: See you're fired, You're fired.

2532
01:54:58,234 --> 01:55:00,394
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Lack. Also, I don't know why,

2533
01:55:00,914 --> 01:55:01,594
Speaker 1: but I'll take.

2534
01:55:01,474 --> 01:55:03,634
Speaker 8: The last respectful to the goat.

2535
01:55:04,554 --> 01:55:05,954
Speaker 1: If I'm watching Mike.

2536
01:55:08,514 --> 01:55:11,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Chargers as well, both ways.

2537
01:55:11,554 --> 01:55:14,434
Speaker 5: Four to twenty five Fox eight and eight Dolphins at

2538
01:55:14,474 --> 01:55:15,954
Speaker 5: the four and twelve Jets.

2539
01:55:16,394 --> 01:55:20,714
Speaker 1: Another game with implications. The Dolphins by one.

2540
01:55:20,794 --> 01:55:23,954
Speaker 6: Dolphins can still make Denver loses.

2541
01:55:23,714 --> 01:55:26,554
Speaker 1: Miami's in with a win, and I believe I'll take

2542
01:55:26,754 --> 01:55:28,314
Speaker 1: believe no Tua again.

2543
01:55:28,554 --> 01:55:30,594
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's still crazy. It's gonna be Scooper.

2544
01:55:30,754 --> 01:55:33,794
Speaker 8: I can't. I want to take Miami. I'll take Miami's Snoop,

2545
01:55:33,834 --> 01:55:36,514
Speaker 8: isn't it. Give me, give me the gim me, give me,

2546
01:55:36,514 --> 01:55:36,874
Speaker 8: give me the.

2547
01:55:36,874 --> 01:55:38,674
Speaker 1: Dolphins, give me, give me, gimme the Dolphins.

2548
01:55:39,594 --> 01:55:40,594
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess me too.

2549
01:55:42,194 --> 01:55:44,714
Speaker 6: So these are two teams that have zero Pro bowlers,

2550
01:55:44,954 --> 01:55:47,034
Speaker 6: the Patriots one Pro.

2551
01:55:46,954 --> 01:55:51,074
Speaker 1: Bowler by the way. By the way, add in the

2552
01:55:51,154 --> 01:55:55,554
Speaker 1: number two seed Buffalo Bills have two. Yeah, so three

2553
01:55:55,634 --> 01:55:57,154
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers in the division.

2554
01:55:57,634 --> 01:56:01,234
Speaker 6: So if Gonzo gets named an alternate, then we're tied

2555
01:56:01,394 --> 01:56:03,434
Speaker 6: with the Bills. So basically we are just.

2556
01:56:03,394 --> 01:56:04,514
Speaker 8: As talent talent.

2557
01:56:05,754 --> 01:56:08,074
Speaker 6: Anyways, I'm gonna go with the Dolphins in this game

2558
01:56:08,074 --> 01:56:11,154
Speaker 6: against the Jets. The Jets are I don't know about

2559
01:56:11,194 --> 01:56:13,954
Speaker 6: those Jets. They're Aaron Rodgers maybe out. I don't know.

2560
01:56:14,034 --> 01:56:15,914
Speaker 5: They're gearing up for the trade in the off season

2561
01:56:15,914 --> 01:56:17,154
Speaker 5: with the Patriots.

2562
01:56:17,754 --> 01:56:18,394
Speaker 6: The Force trade.

2563
01:56:18,434 --> 01:56:23,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'll take the Jets. I don't believe in

2564
01:56:24,154 --> 01:56:26,674
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley. I thought he played reasonably well last week.

2565
01:56:26,714 --> 01:56:27,794
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do it again.

2566
01:56:27,874 --> 01:56:31,994
Speaker 5: It's a tough one. Do the Jets come out wanting

2567
01:56:32,034 --> 01:56:34,674
Speaker 5: to play? That's the question, like I would, is there

2568
01:56:34,674 --> 01:56:38,794
Speaker 5: a reason for them to? Is there a reason for

2569
01:56:38,874 --> 01:56:41,314
Speaker 5: them to come out and put up a good performance

2570
01:56:41,354 --> 01:56:43,834
Speaker 5: that final game? I say yes, I think they do

2571
01:56:43,994 --> 01:56:52,514
Speaker 5: win this game eight twenty on NBC Universo, Telexitos and Peacock.

2572
01:56:53,874 --> 01:56:55,874
Speaker 5: This is the game of the week. The fourteen and

2573
01:56:55,954 --> 01:57:00,234
Speaker 5: two Vikings at the fourteen and two Lions.

2574
01:56:59,834 --> 01:57:02,794
Speaker 1: Winner take all Lions by two and a half.

2575
01:57:03,194 --> 01:57:04,914
Speaker 8: Wow, love it just I mean, two of the feel

2576
01:57:04,954 --> 01:57:06,154
Speaker 8: good stories of the year.

2577
01:57:06,074 --> 01:57:08,394
Speaker 1: Right, fourteen and three and get in the fifth seat.

2578
01:57:08,554 --> 01:57:12,394
Speaker 8: That's crazy. That shot though, of Kevin O'Connell watching Sam

2579
01:57:12,434 --> 01:57:14,994
Speaker 8: Donold get like lifted up, I mean, was that Connor

2580
01:57:15,274 --> 01:57:17,834
Speaker 8: standing there right on his face?

2581
01:57:18,154 --> 01:57:19,274
Speaker 1: It was kind of cool.

2582
01:57:19,394 --> 01:57:20,554
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was incredible.

2583
01:57:20,634 --> 01:57:23,634
Speaker 8: I'm really tempted to take Minnesota on this one, and

2584
01:57:23,674 --> 01:57:25,394
Speaker 8: you know what, I'm gonna do it. I think they

2585
01:57:25,474 --> 01:57:29,274
Speaker 8: upset Detroit at home, just injuries catching up with Detroit

2586
01:57:29,314 --> 01:57:31,234
Speaker 8: at the end, and Minnesota just seems like they're peaking

2587
01:57:31,314 --> 01:57:32,754
Speaker 8: right now. So I gotta go to Minnesota.

2588
01:57:33,634 --> 01:57:34,594
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go to the Lions.

2589
01:57:36,354 --> 01:57:39,154
Speaker 6: This is your coach of the year by a landslide,

2590
01:57:39,194 --> 01:57:41,954
Speaker 6: I think at this point with yeah, Kevin o'ca, I mean,

2591
01:57:41,994 --> 01:57:45,834
Speaker 6: fourteen and two with Sam Darnold like that, that's pretty incredible.

2592
01:57:45,874 --> 01:57:47,674
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna take the Vikings to win this game.

2593
01:57:48,154 --> 01:57:51,714
Speaker 6: The Lions defense cannot stop anybody, and I worry really

2594
01:57:52,074 --> 01:57:55,034
Speaker 6: about their whole longevity in the playoffs too with that defense.

2595
01:57:55,394 --> 01:57:57,274
Speaker 6: I mean, the forty nine ers move the ball at

2596
01:57:57,314 --> 01:58:00,474
Speaker 6: will in that game last week. So I'm taking the Vikings.

2597
01:58:00,954 --> 01:58:02,794
Speaker 1: I really thought I was going to be alone on this.

2598
01:58:02,914 --> 01:58:05,874
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Vikings also. I just feel like their

2599
01:58:05,914 --> 01:58:10,034
Speaker 1: defense will at least get a stopper too and make

2600
01:58:10,194 --> 01:58:12,514
Speaker 1: life a little bit more difficult. That's how Detroit's trying

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01:58:12,514 --> 01:58:14,274
Speaker 1: to win games now is they're just saying, we need

2602
01:58:14,314 --> 01:58:15,954
Speaker 1: to score every time. We're going to go for fourth

2603
01:58:15,994 --> 01:58:18,434
Speaker 1: down every time because we know we have to protect

2604
01:58:18,434 --> 01:58:21,634
Speaker 1: our defense, and Minnesota's defense should be able to get

2605
01:58:21,634 --> 01:58:24,834
Speaker 1: a stop or too and keep it, you know, around thirty.

2606
01:58:25,314 --> 01:58:28,394
Speaker 1: And if that happens, I think the Vikings win the game.

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01:58:28,434 --> 01:58:30,554
Speaker 5: I think you're all speaking my language. I think the

2608
01:58:30,634 --> 01:58:34,034
Speaker 5: Vikings win this game. The battle for the NFC, I

2609
01:58:34,114 --> 01:58:37,274
Speaker 5: think it's the Vikings all right. Now we move back

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01:58:37,274 --> 01:58:41,154
Speaker 5: to one o'clock on CBS. It's the game of our week.

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01:58:41,354 --> 01:58:46,714
Speaker 5: The thirteen and three Bills at the three and thirteen Patriots.

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01:58:46,514 --> 01:58:52,194
Speaker 1: Buffalo by TWOFOWO what thirteen?

2613
01:58:53,114 --> 01:58:56,514
Speaker 6: Every other team that's resting starters is not favored in.

2614
01:59:00,874 --> 01:59:02,474
Speaker 8: I just feel like the way things have been going

2615
01:59:02,514 --> 01:59:04,474
Speaker 8: this year, this feels like a Patriots win to me.

2616
01:59:04,834 --> 01:59:06,354
Speaker 8: It feels like this is the game. They pull it

2617
01:59:06,394 --> 01:59:08,434
Speaker 8: together and they play right, and they knock off the

2618
01:59:08,434 --> 01:59:10,914
Speaker 8: backups and maybe Joe Milton throws a touchdown or something.

2619
01:59:10,954 --> 01:59:16,034
Speaker 8: But I got New England winning. I'll say twenty to sixteen.

2620
01:59:20,994 --> 01:59:26,754
Speaker 7: I don't feel that way. I'm gonna say Bills those

2621
01:59:26,794 --> 01:59:29,954
Speaker 7: twenty eight Patriots fourteen.

2622
01:59:31,834 --> 01:59:33,634
Speaker 6: I feel the same way as Deuce. I mean, how

2623
01:59:34,034 --> 01:59:36,954
Speaker 6: other way could you finish the season like this? By winning?

2624
01:59:36,994 --> 01:59:40,594
Speaker 6: To lose the number one pick. It's just extremely fitting

2625
01:59:40,714 --> 01:59:42,994
Speaker 6: for how this is all gone, is that this would

2626
01:59:43,034 --> 01:59:44,714
Speaker 6: be the game that they kind of put it together

2627
01:59:44,754 --> 01:59:46,594
Speaker 6: and have a decent game when they don't want to

2628
01:59:46,634 --> 01:59:49,914
Speaker 6: win the game. Yeah. So I'm going to go Patriots

2629
01:59:49,994 --> 01:59:53,274
Speaker 6: twenty seven to twenty over the Buffalo Bills. And I

2630
01:59:53,274 --> 01:59:56,274
Speaker 6: think Drake May plays for the majority of not the entire.

2631
01:59:56,114 --> 02:00:00,034
Speaker 8: Game, And you're pulling your hair out from start to finish.

2632
02:00:00,954 --> 02:00:04,674
Speaker 1: I really have nothing, no idea what you expect this game.

2633
02:00:04,714 --> 02:00:07,234
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Buffalo because I think their backups

2634
02:00:07,274 --> 02:00:08,674
Speaker 1: are going to play, and I think they're going to

2635
02:00:08,714 --> 02:00:11,474
Speaker 1: play hard. I would give the Patriots a better chance

2636
02:00:11,634 --> 02:00:14,434
Speaker 1: if there was a smattering yeah, you know, and they

2637
02:00:14,474 --> 02:00:16,354
Speaker 1: were like kind of played the whole game like they

2638
02:00:16,354 --> 02:00:19,154
Speaker 1: did the first half in Buffalo, like with no intensity.

2639
02:00:19,714 --> 02:00:24,874
Speaker 1: But Mitch Trubisky, he's like he's a backup for a reason,

2640
02:00:24,914 --> 02:00:27,314
Speaker 1: but he will go out and play hard. I think

2641
02:00:27,354 --> 02:00:28,754
Speaker 1: it'll I think they'll be hard pressed.

2642
02:00:28,834 --> 02:00:29,474
Speaker 6: He's terrible.

2643
02:00:29,554 --> 02:00:31,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty three to twenty Buffalo.

2644
02:00:31,754 --> 02:00:34,434
Speaker 5: It's gonna be apropos for this season for the Patriots

2645
02:00:34,474 --> 02:00:38,394
Speaker 5: to win this game, exactly right, and they will eleven to.

2646
02:00:38,354 --> 02:00:45,114
Speaker 1: Three, eleven to three, is just beautiful.

2647
02:00:47,154 --> 02:00:49,674
Speaker 6: Get into eleven.

2648
02:00:52,834 --> 02:00:53,794
Speaker 5: Some weird rule.

2649
02:00:55,154 --> 02:00:57,034
Speaker 6: Score, it's like.

2650
02:00:57,114 --> 02:00:59,634
Speaker 7: Three field goals in a safety or that's.

2651
02:00:59,834 --> 02:01:05,034
Speaker 5: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

2652
02:01:05,274 --> 02:01:09,634
Speaker 5: Patriots Unfiltered. Uh, stay tuned for Catch twenty two. There

2653
02:01:09,674 --> 02:01:13,954
Speaker 5: is a pregame show and a postgame show. Our last

2654
02:01:13,954 --> 02:01:16,154
Speaker 5: one of the season, so it'll be a good one,

2655
02:01:16,514 --> 02:01:18,594
Speaker 5: so make sure you tune in for that. But stay

2656
02:01:18,634 --> 02:01:21,954
Speaker 5: tuned for Alex and Evan on Catch twenty two. We'll

2657
02:01:21,994 --> 02:01:22,834
Speaker 5: see you on Tuesday.

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02:01:23,514 --> 02:01:27,354
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2659
02:01:27,394 --> 02:01:30,474
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02:01:30,514 --> 02:01:33,634
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02:01:33,714 --> 02:01:36,874
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02:01:36,994 --> 02:01:40,074
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Speaker 4: The worlds of Vigein podcast.

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Speaker 2: Patriots Catch twenty two, Well, join Evan Lazar and Alex

2666
02:01:54,994 --> 02:01:57,514
Speaker 2: Bart every Thursday as they take a deep dive into

2667
02:01:57,594 --> 02:02:00,674
Speaker 2: the x's and o's trends and latest New England Patriots

2668
02:02:00,794 --> 02:02:01,394
Speaker 2: roster moves.

2669
02:02:01,474 --> 02:02:03,194
Speaker 6: And I'm usually into the numbers.

2670
02:02:04,314 --> 02:02:06,794
Speaker 1: Okay, we do this all I mean to any tangible numbers.

2671
02:02:06,594 --> 02:02:08,274
Speaker 6: There's time here just give me.

2672
02:02:08,514 --> 02:02:09,234
Speaker 1: There's the advantage.

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02:02:09,234 --> 02:02:12,394
Speaker 6: I haven't know how to work it. I'm surprised an

2674
02:02:12,434 --> 02:02:14,274
Speaker 6: old man over here. I thought maybe i'd have to

2675
02:02:14,274 --> 02:02:15,914
Speaker 6: show you, like a tentorial or something.

2676
02:02:16,034 --> 02:02:18,154
Speaker 2: How am I old man to search for Patriots catch

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02:02:18,194 --> 02:02:20,314
Speaker 2: twenty two? Anywhere you get your podcasts