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Speaker 3: What they do?
Speaker 4: Hey Joe, Hey Joe, Hey, I've.
Speaker 2: Been in the lab. Joke what you've been doing shit.
Speaker 4: Hey, don't worry about it. Just get to get that
Speaker 4: knee together back.
Speaker 5: Oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 3: Get that knee together.
Speaker 4: Whack, okay, okay, yeah, Hey, I booked my ticket too.
Speaker 4: I'm letting you know ahead of time. I booked my
Speaker 4: ticket for Mars sixteenth. I'm being on the fifteen so
Speaker 4: we can go to the Hawk game.
Speaker 1: Uh what's that? That's the Magic City Night. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: trying to do something by tusione.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: I thought you I thought you said. I thought you
Speaker 3: said we can go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make it happen. Say glass,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it happen.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna let I book my ticket so you know,
Speaker 4: I don't I frequent Atlanta maybe once once a year,
Speaker 4: so this is this be my one time.
Speaker 2: Boy, You're finna have a good time. What you're gonna do?
Speaker 2: You man? You know old need old.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm if if the water don't rise and
Speaker 1: you know, don't get too high. You've been have surgery.
Speaker 2: So I will saw what or through today. I got
Speaker 2: another part.
Speaker 1: We'll get two opinions and see, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: you know, probably the best thing for it to go
Speaker 1: in there and get it taking care of get it scope,
Speaker 1: get it sniffed a little bit. Uh, fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minute procedure, and most see what the other guy says.
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna take the best of the two scenarios.
Speaker 1: The one thing I do know, we're not gonna leave
Speaker 1: it as is. It's painful and not take pain medical
Speaker 1: medicine for that. So we'll get it. We'll get that
Speaker 1: thing resolved, and then you know your boy be out
Speaker 1: there running again. You know, I'll be out there. Go
Speaker 1: ahead on, Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now I'm gonna ask you a fifteen to
Speaker 4: twenty minute procedure.
Speaker 3: What's the rehab time?
Speaker 1: Like he said, I'll be I'll be sore for about
Speaker 1: about a week, oh, Joe, because anytime they go into
Speaker 1: the body. Oh that's so you're gonna be sore. But
Speaker 1: it's probably four to five weeks.
Speaker 3: Okay, that ain't bad, man.
Speaker 1: You know I go to rehab, he said, it's a
Speaker 1: it's an in and our procedure. So you go in
Speaker 1: that morning, you'll be out that day, and then I
Speaker 1: do I'll start rehab the next day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because yeah, you know what I need to
Speaker 4: stop playing around and do un like all jokes aside
Speaker 4: Joe that I need to get this damn cataract remove
Speaker 4: out my right eye because I can't see at all.
Speaker 3: It's even I couldn't see to begin with.
Speaker 4: Now cataracts build up so much my right eye, my
Speaker 4: whole right side.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: So, hey, I got a question. In the hell you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna beat me in anything with one eye?
Speaker 2: Joe?
Speaker 4: I played my whole career with one eye I had.
Speaker 4: I only had one, I said in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that you look one thing about me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use everything in my advantage. You know you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to my right. If my opponent got a weakness,
Speaker 1: you best believe I'm going at it.
Speaker 4: But Joe, that's not a weakness. I played my whole
Speaker 4: caribb one eye.
Speaker 2: You ain't You ain't gonna be. You ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: to keep up with that with no one eye. Joe,
Speaker 2: you're too slow, Joe? Who you six' eight?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: All? Oh, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 4: I mean no disrespect, but it's gonna be real funny
Speaker 4: when they say, God damn by that nigga Ojo gave
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. That work.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: The Thunder go on the road and Battison Square Garden
Speaker 1: and take down the Knicks by the score of one
Speaker 1: oh three to one hundred. Chet Holgren had twenty eight points,
Speaker 1: eight rebounds, the eight Hongrin had a tide of career
Speaker 1: high with sixty three pointers. Shay gil Just had twenty
Speaker 1: six points as he continued to streak of at least
Speaker 1: twenty points. I think it's one hundred and twenty two now.
Speaker 1: I think he's a couple of games behind Wilt Chamberlain's record,
Speaker 1: which I think is one hundred and twenty four one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six. But they Chant Honker had twenty eight,
Speaker 1: Shay gild Just had twenty six, Lou Dort had sixteen.
Speaker 1: That routed out, but they did a great job. The
Speaker 1: Knicks got a battle of scoring, but it.
Speaker 2: Was not enough.
Speaker 1: Og had sixteen, Karl Lathon had seventeen, Josh had ten,
Speaker 1: McHale Bridges had fifteen, Jalen Brunson had sixteen, and Landry
Speaker 1: Sherman had fourteen.
Speaker 2: But they shot terrible from the three.
Speaker 1: Point line, ten of thirty five and that was really
Speaker 1: the difference in the ball game.
Speaker 2: Shae Hill a step back three.
Speaker 1: He only shot won three tonight, Joe, and they put
Speaker 1: Oj on him and he drove to the basket and
Speaker 1: he snatched the pull. Let that three go, And that
Speaker 1: was really the difference in.
Speaker 2: The ball game.
Speaker 1: Watching this game, Joe, you look and you can see
Speaker 1: the Thunder starting to feel like themselves. They're starting It
Speaker 1: looks like they're starting the game from confidence back because
Speaker 1: they feel our best be best player in the NBA
Speaker 1: is on our roster. Now we're fully they don't have
Speaker 1: j Dove quite yet, but you can tell they're starting
Speaker 1: to feel themselves again heading into the playoffs. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're not fully healthy, but they're still they're still
Speaker 1: grinding our wins night in and night out.
Speaker 2: Fellas.
Speaker 1: They just beat Chicago last night without Shay Shaye played tonight.
Speaker 1: The one thing that's glaring for me about ok see
Speaker 1: Uncle Ojo, they guard bro, they play defense. If you
Speaker 1: look at if you look at the Knicks, the shooting
Speaker 1: percentages was horrible. Brunton was five for eighteen, og was
Speaker 1: six for seventeen. McHale Bridges was six for seventeen. These
Speaker 1: dudes sit down in their chair. They moved him feet
Speaker 1: and they guard and they defense is what fuels are.
Speaker 2: Offense.
Speaker 1: Now, they do have a guy and Shay who can
Speaker 1: get to the bucket, get to the spots.
Speaker 2: Or whenever he won't in the game. He just makes
Speaker 2: the games look easy.
Speaker 1: But I've said this from last season even throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 1: the better check home greed is, the better this OKC
Speaker 1: team will be. Which can which can lead them to
Speaker 1: be a dynasty mean and winning multiple championships.
Speaker 2: They look good, man, They're in.
Speaker 1: A great spot obviously, you know, coming down to the wilde.
Speaker 1: With the season they get healthy, they still gonna be
Speaker 1: a scary team to deal with the seven game series, fellas, Hey.
Speaker 3: Uncle Joe.
Speaker 4: Normally, right, when you think about basketball in general, you
Speaker 4: have every team has his identity, sometimes defense, sometimes offense.
Speaker 4: Most of the time you really don't have a team
Speaker 4: where on both sides and transition you're good on offense
Speaker 4: and defense. How to hell they able to sit in
Speaker 4: the chair and play defense the way they do and
Speaker 4: still have the offensive offensive prior to score at will
Speaker 4: like they do as well.
Speaker 1: If you look at the go ahead, Joe, go aheall
Speaker 1: they hey, they they in great shape, Ocho. Both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball. You gotta be in shape. Obviously. Yes,
Speaker 1: they wanted the youngest teams still in the league. So
Speaker 1: uh they cause the multitude of problems. And they one
Speaker 1: of the only teams, like I've been saying, who pick
Speaker 1: up full court and wear you down in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to where they can still you know, be fresh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is Ojo plus the factor you
Speaker 1: look at it. The guys that are really sitting in
Speaker 1: the chair, those are not your guys that you're counting
Speaker 1: on to give you twenty thirty a night shade shake
Speaker 1: and play defense. But that's what you got Lou Darts for.
Speaker 1: That's what you got for. That's what you got Kate
Speaker 1: Wallace for. That's what you got those other guys for.
Speaker 1: That's what you got a seven foot guy in the
Speaker 1: back drop check Hogen to check anything that gets past
Speaker 1: those guys. So we know and they understand, this is
Speaker 1: who we are. Isaiah, Joe Okay Chat, I mean Shaye Shoot.
Speaker 1: As many times you like Chat, you're our next guy,
Speaker 1: especially now that Jay Dubb isn't there.
Speaker 2: But when you get Jay.
Speaker 1: Dub back, you got another guy that can sit in
Speaker 1: the chair they go, they can at every point in
Speaker 1: time in the game, they're gonna have three of their
Speaker 1: five guys that can sit in the chair.
Speaker 2: That's at the bare minimum.
Speaker 1: Now you mess around to go out there with Caruso
Speaker 1: and you have door out there, and you have wallets
Speaker 1: out there, and you have Joe out there. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: you got forty to five Jay dub with an all defense,
Speaker 1: with an all the defensive player, he can play defense.
Speaker 1: They're loaded, and they say, you know what, we get
Speaker 1: some really easy shots. We get some easy runouts when
Speaker 1: we turn you over. So they bought in. No, everybody understands.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that when somebody does an interview,
Speaker 1: everybody's standing around.
Speaker 2: Now they might be a outfit, they might.
Speaker 1: Be shucking and jiving, but that showed the closeness and
Speaker 1: the camaraderie that they have.
Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't have that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a team that's to be wrecking with
Speaker 1: as long as everybody understands their role. This is who
Speaker 1: I am. A check, I mean check got a max deal.
Speaker 1: J Dove got a Max deal. Shaye got a Max deal.
Speaker 1: Now we ain't got no more max deals that can
Speaker 1: come around. Joe, Hey, we ain't got no more mac
Speaker 1: deals that can come around. Everybody understand now, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be in a situation where you can win a lot
Speaker 1: of games and win championships, but somebody, at some point
Speaker 1: in time, they're gonna start picking off those pieces. Like
Speaker 1: you said in the NBA or NFL, Oh Joe, guys
Speaker 1: start like, hold on, yeah, they winning. He's been there,
Speaker 1: he knows what it's like to win. Let me go
Speaker 1: get him and see if we can put that in
Speaker 1: our locker room. But I love the way this team plays.
Speaker 1: I love the closeness of this team and being a
Speaker 1: part of being a part of a winning culture. Guy
Speaker 1: A normally normally I ain't saying as always. Maybe they
Speaker 1: are situations where guys don't like each other, But all
Speaker 1: the winning that I've been a part of, guys were
Speaker 1: really really close. They did things together. They went to
Speaker 1: the movies together, they did cook guys together, they went
Speaker 1: bowling together, they did a lot of things together.
Speaker 2: Played rogue, that played cards.
Speaker 1: We were constantly going to somebody's house, be at Baltimore
Speaker 1: raised house and and if Buffy his mom was cooking,
Speaker 1: or we was at in Denver. We was doing things,
Speaker 1: going to the movies bowling. This team is close. You
Speaker 1: can tell they're close, Yeah, yeah, you can. And that's
Speaker 1: I think that helps them too on the court. Okay o, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know that that closes that they had together, you know,
Speaker 1: spending and spend a lot of time with each other
Speaker 1: off the court. But I think just because they got
Speaker 1: these max contracts, uh, I think these other guys who
Speaker 1: I would probably call them like Phyllis, for the most part,
Speaker 1: I don't think I think.
Speaker 2: They all stay.
Speaker 1: I think even I think even a couple of them
Speaker 1: may even take a pay cut just to stick around.
Speaker 1: Because just think about it, if they make it to
Speaker 1: the finals this year, if they even win another title,
Speaker 1: I mean now that they can definitely be amongst history,
Speaker 1: so I can I can see this team kind of
Speaker 1: sticking around for quite something. I think it makes it
Speaker 1: easier for him to leave now, Joe, because I got
Speaker 1: two rings and somebody's gonna give me five years at
Speaker 1: seventy million.
Speaker 2: You see, at what point in time, Joe, how many
Speaker 2: rings do I need?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm twenty six years of age and somebody's
Speaker 1: about to get drop me, you know, uh, seventy let's
Speaker 1: just say seventy million. For five years. Somebody's about to
Speaker 1: give me one hundred million for five years, and I
Speaker 1: got two rings.
Speaker 2: Well I'm good.
Speaker 1: Now it's about it's about the securing my family, to
Speaker 1: make sure everybody's great for the next thirty five forty years.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how plays out. I mean, everybody says, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be here, I want to be here,
Speaker 1: I want to be here, and then somebody like, damn boy,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Joe. Yeah, they were like, yeah, you know what I think.
Speaker 1: I think I somebody want to stay in Phoenix and
Speaker 1: let him say, Joe, we got this, we got this
Speaker 1: little package for you over here.
Speaker 2: Come up.
Speaker 5: I like I.
Speaker 2: Got I got to.
Speaker 1: Joe saying, hey, Joe, hold on, what's that uh uh
Speaker 1: uh valley? Paradise Valley?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 5: Uh uh?
Speaker 1: Scott after this s guy's got Paradise Vallet.
Speaker 2: Right, they got nice the same scenery. I spent a
Speaker 2: lot of you know what I'm talking about, Joe, nice scenery.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, hey, this nice? Oh Joe, it's nice.
Speaker 1: You gotta tell me Scott's Dale and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Well I had a time when I was
Speaker 1: out there, you know, and mean, but Hey, that's a
Speaker 1: long wave broy right right clothing for me? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for me. You know, I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: really on the West Coast. I'm just just think about
Speaker 1: it obviously. Remember we went to the Super Bowl Arizona.
Speaker 1: That god damn flight, man, Jesus Christ from Miami, where
Speaker 1: everything is part of you're coming back coming this way
Speaker 1: from Miami.
Speaker 2: It's just like everything is part coming this way.
Speaker 1: If you're on the West Coast going east where it's
Speaker 1: New York Jersey. In Miami, it's but it's hell. Now
Speaker 1: it's easy for me to go there because I got
Speaker 1: to win at my back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, long flight.
Speaker 1: Man, I'd have got up and I took me a
Speaker 1: little quick nap, go to the bathroom. Four hours, four hours. Hell,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was sleep for three.
Speaker 2: But that's the part about going overseas. Oh show.
Speaker 1: I remember we went to Australia. Man, I don't watch
Speaker 1: four movies. That took me a nap. We still got
Speaker 1: twelve hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, how long the flight to Australia.
Speaker 1: Eighteen hours? That's about how that flight was. We went
Speaker 1: to China. Yeah, it's a long time been on a plane.
Speaker 1: What lord JJ Reddick down played his sideline argument with
Speaker 1: Luca don just saying the exchange was very normal. Video
Speaker 1: merge emerged showing the interaction at the interaction during the
Speaker 1: Saturdays one.
Speaker 2: O one win over the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Uh, we got the video. Check a look at this, Joe.
Speaker 3: And no, Joe, what that that day? That's so reminiscent.
Speaker 1: After being some out of the game, Luca avoided Reddick
Speaker 1: on the sideline, causing the coach to walk after him,
Speaker 1: and guard exchanged words with him on the bench. After
Speaker 1: Reddick walked away, Luca jumped up and potentially to continue
Speaker 1: to argument, but Jerry Vanderbilt quickly hopped up started clapping
Speaker 1: in front of Luca to de escalate the situation.
Speaker 2: Joe, how normal is this? Is this very normal? Is
Speaker 2: this somewhat like? What? What's really going on? Nah?
Speaker 1: This it's pretty normal. I think he probably what he
Speaker 1: must have messed up when coach took him out.
Speaker 2: He ain't want to come out. Luca tried to get that.
Speaker 1: Look, let me tell y'all something, that's normal, bro, When
Speaker 1: you in the game and you mess up and you
Speaker 1: can't get a chance to get back and he take
Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, you walk over that little attitude. You see,
Speaker 1: he ain't want to shake his hair, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, That's pretty normal. Okay, Oh Joe, you know
Speaker 1: you like you come back, You're like, man, damn, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 3: He uncle Joe.
Speaker 4: I remember I had the same incident. Obviously, this is basketball.
Speaker 4: Obviously that's that's a meaningful game that they playing. But
Speaker 4: every time in the preseason, Joe, Joe, in the preseason,
Speaker 4: come you know the ones they said before the game
Speaker 4: start all right, the ones y'all get one series and
Speaker 4: then we're all coming out. Man, who you think don't
Speaker 4: want to come out the game? You all everybody went
Speaker 4: off the sideline. I'm the only one still on the
Speaker 4: field waiting on the twos to come in.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, even even if even if you don't call
Speaker 1: the past or not.
Speaker 4: The quarter past not And most of the time I
Speaker 4: ain't catch now because they just you know, it's they
Speaker 4: just doing vanilla stuff. Hey, Joe, I had Coach Lewis
Speaker 4: he done had to call a time out to get
Speaker 4: me out the game. If I refuse to come out,
Speaker 4: I'm coming to the sideline.
Speaker 2: He walking towards me.
Speaker 5: I'm going straight to the end.
Speaker 2: Of the bench.
Speaker 3: You know, we laugh about today.
Speaker 4: Man, but I don't think he understood I needed to
Speaker 4: be in those preseason games. I just needed I needed
Speaker 4: to catch that rhythm. I need to catch that speed
Speaker 4: of the game, just to get my body acclimated to it.
Speaker 4: Because no matter how much you practice, game day speed
Speaker 4: is completely different, no matter how much you practice.
Speaker 2: Man, but I think Luca wanted to get the cup.
Speaker 1: Hey, we scored easy, Luca got gotta eat, got a
Speaker 1: twenty quick, twenty eight easy. Say you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to win the scoring title, and so it's game
Speaker 1: just here, Joe, Hey, let me go on to get
Speaker 1: me a little thirty five. Let me go play an
Speaker 1: extra three minutes. Let me get me three more minutes,
Speaker 1: and then I'll come sit on the sideline. JJ probably thinking, Nah,
Speaker 1: in that three minutes, a lot can happen. You must
Speaker 1: run a step on somebody's ankle, somebody hit you, do
Speaker 1: this and get out of the ball game, because you know,
Speaker 1: the thing is like when you got it going good.
Speaker 1: Oh you you know, Joe, you know you gotta go good.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, hey, and you know you got you know,
Speaker 1: you got this many yards? Really, man, I go in
Speaker 1: there and get me one catch. I would get one catch.
Speaker 1: I did this in college, George, I said coach, Coach,
Speaker 1: I need all I need is one catch. I need
Speaker 1: one catch. I'm gonna have two hundred, I said coach.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch it. I'm gonna go out of bounds.
Speaker 1: He like, all right, at home, We're gonna throw you one, Yoe.
Speaker 1: He throw it that smoke right, I faced up down
Speaker 1: inside the line.
Speaker 2: I with you go.
Speaker 3: Hey Joe, Hey, dude, dude.
Speaker 4: Coaches understand especially it might be different when it comes
Speaker 4: to basketball. If lucas in rhythm, if Luca is hot,
Speaker 4: maybe JJ's not thinking about him being able to get
Speaker 4: that scoring title and one to come out of the game.
Speaker 4: Don't they have some type of situation or understanding like
Speaker 4: let me stay in like maybe eye contact while he's
Speaker 4: in the game and say I'm good right now.
Speaker 2: Just let me let me be man.
Speaker 1: Them coaches being aware, they be aware of what's going on,
Speaker 1: O Joe. Don't let them fool you.
Speaker 2: Now. Don't let them fool you and think that they
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: People on the sideline just telling them, hey Joe, got
Speaker 1: fued this, O Joe.
Speaker 2: Got five files, got two files. So he good.
Speaker 1: They got people to study, giving you that information. You
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on. Yeah he a o Jo
Speaker 1: need ten more points, he had twenty thousand points.
Speaker 2: Yeah something like that.
Speaker 1: Like they they they know, bro, they know so yeah,
Speaker 1: they know he gonna They know he in for the
Speaker 1: scoring title for sure.
Speaker 4: Hey but but Joe, if they know he in for
Speaker 4: the scoing title, why would you take him out? I
Speaker 4: mean the other I mean whose side they own?
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Look, the thing is the last thing that you want
Speaker 1: to have happened. You leave him in there. You already
Speaker 1: up thirty points Ojo and Joe, and you know what
Speaker 1: comes with it.
Speaker 2: He must right to get hurt. They're gonna say why
Speaker 2: was he in the game, right? And then you're gonna say, hey,
Speaker 2: oh really, so.
Speaker 1: Now you put your you put you let a guy
Speaker 1: put his selfish needs trying to in a scoring title
Speaker 1: over the bigger, the bigger, more important needs, which is
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I see both sides of the equation.
Speaker 1: I've been on both sides of the equation. I remember, uhh,
Speaker 1: we've played, We've playing the Chiefs. Mike took everybody out.
Speaker 1: They came up there told Mike Shannon had six for
Speaker 1: ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Eighty four.
Speaker 1: I done took my help and Joe, I don't us
Speaker 1: strapped the shoulder pan because they already we already beaten.
Speaker 1: Came we already beating were home. I already undertook the
Speaker 1: eighty four. You back up. I was like, huh, you
Speaker 1: need a yard for one hundred. Okay, let me get
Speaker 1: on back in there looks better than ninety nine, right
Speaker 1: right right, So we're gonna run some simple weren't run.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run a boot down, flat wash the end
Speaker 1: down to the to the A gap and go to
Speaker 1: the flat wash the air down to the to the
Speaker 1: A gap. And he don't throw it to me. On timing,
Speaker 1: he tried to pump pump throws. The lady gets picked.
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh they had some boy man Mike boy,
Speaker 1: Mike turns some red. Oh, I said, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm sorry, but you should should
Speaker 1: throw it to me the first time. But but I
Speaker 1: but I see both sides of the equations. Because sometimes,
Speaker 1: like when you're in a rhythm of oh, Joe and Joe,
Speaker 1: you know this in basketball, Joe not thing cooking, and
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: You can't do no wrong.
Speaker 1: You shooting off wrong foot, you dot matter what you
Speaker 1: throwing stuff up, there's going there and you getting a one.
Speaker 1: And everybody knows Luca can heat up. I mean, he
Speaker 1: don't need to see. But a few go into the
Speaker 1: basket and that's it. Yeah, he cheaching. First of all,
Speaker 1: his first shot gonna be all three. He gonna check it.
Speaker 1: He gonna get that step back, he gonna gonna pull.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna shoot that step back. Don't let him
Speaker 1: see it. Go in a couple of them go in
Speaker 1: now because you got your hands. Yeah, you got your
Speaker 1: hands here, So I understand. But like you know, j
Speaker 1: j just left the game. What Joe what five years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the thing is with him, he knows you
Speaker 1: get these guys and then then you know, you give
Speaker 1: these guys a little leadway. It's not like you and
Speaker 1: there doing no stuff like the old school, like a
Speaker 1: Phiel or pat Riley that stuff like that. He even
Speaker 1: even unc said when he was in college, this coach
Speaker 1: let him got there.
Speaker 2: Cochon Nolan Richard ain't having none of that. I don't
Speaker 2: give there. How many points do you got you set
Speaker 2: your head right over with me this game.
Speaker 1: That was the only time though, that was the only
Speaker 1: time he ever done that, because I remember we played
Speaker 1: this my senior year, and uh, you know, obviously, you
Speaker 1: know we want to have a good season, you know,
Speaker 1: try to make the playoffs. But you know Skout's gonna
Speaker 1: Scouts gonna be there. Sterling Sharp's little brother, a two
Speaker 1: time All American Conference Player of the Year. We want
Speaker 1: to see what he put on man O Joe, I said,
Speaker 1: Man I was I'm talking about. I was in peak shape.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Hey, the worked out. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to work in the fields. I ain't have to do
Speaker 1: no work. Hey, I'm just trained. I'm good.
Speaker 2: I show up. I'm two twenty eight. I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Hi, got in a fight with a sword and lost
Speaker 1: cuts everywhere. Yeah yeah, cut cut like a small bag
Speaker 1: of dope. That's what I'm looking like between us now.
Speaker 1: So I go out there in the first the first half,
Speaker 1: we halftime, I got like, I got five catches for
Speaker 1: above fifty and two touchdowns were up thirty seth. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, you come about to get me
Speaker 1: three hundred, I said, They throw me another They throw
Speaker 1: me another five. I'm gonna get three hundred, right man,
Speaker 1: Coach talking about then see he's a home home.
Speaker 2: You done for the day, I said, come on, coach,
Speaker 2: let me.
Speaker 1: At that time, I had never had a two hundred
Speaker 1: yard game. No home done, man, he told me after
Speaker 1: the game. He pulled me aside after the game. He say, Son,
Speaker 1: you got the best chance of any player I ever
Speaker 1: coached to be great at the next level.
Speaker 2: Son. If something happens to you, I'll never forgive myself. Hm.
Speaker 2: I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, coach, But I showed that
Speaker 1: a bout five games later. I never had a two
Speaker 1: hunderd yard game.
Speaker 2: Oh joe.
Speaker 1: And then I came and strom things to get back
Speaker 1: to back to back.
Speaker 2: There you had.
Speaker 1: I went, I went fis, I did sam for two
Speaker 1: twenty one. I went not, I went nine for two
Speaker 1: oh two, and then I go ten for two o five.
Speaker 1: God damn, I sprinkling him like a Sam for a
Speaker 1: buck fifty four and three to that too. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all in one season? Up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we're eating one o nine games. I
Speaker 1: had thirty on the yards on't you a nine games?
Speaker 3: Eighteen touchdowns damn well, you would have been over that page.
Speaker 4: Hey Joe, Hey, Joe, I would locked on grass Upjoe.
Speaker 1: You gotta realize thinking about it. Oh, Joe, you see me,
Speaker 1: I'm a receiver. I'm getting off the bus. I'm six
Speaker 1: to twenty five and I'm talking about yeah huh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah with a sheep.
Speaker 2: I had a sheep back then. I had a shield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had it, you know, Joe. Oh remember we
Speaker 1: used to have some great cutoffs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Hey, that's.
Speaker 1: Look like I had tennis balls in my stomach, Like
Speaker 1: I swallowed bout five or six tennis balls, don't Joe.
Speaker 2: So I got it. Hey, hey, I got off the
Speaker 2: bus first man that's.
Speaker 1: Been out there in that son. So I'm good at
Speaker 1: Christy looking like charcoal. You know what I'm saying, finger
Speaker 1: prints on charcoal. That's how black I was on, Joe.
Speaker 2: But I toe up. But man, I get it. I
Speaker 2: get what.
Speaker 1: I get Luca's point of view. I also get JJ's
Speaker 1: point of view. I do because remember Joe, the previous
Speaker 1: game they played Phoenix any struggle shooting the ball, remember yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So he said, hey, this is my make right, this
Speaker 1: is my get right game, right, boun Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not I'm not surprised by this. I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised that j JJ's response to this. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody's been around JJ. I've been around him a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he's a he's a fighty personality, like
Speaker 1: most guys from Duke are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, go back and look at Christian Lady.
Speaker 1: You look at Bobby Hurley, you look at the JJ, you,
Speaker 1: Grayson Allen, you look at those guys.
Speaker 2: They got a little edge to him. So I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that.
Speaker 1: Luca responded in the way that he did, But I'm
Speaker 1: also not surprised that they ended up taking him out
Speaker 1: of the ball game. The anticipation of a Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: return is building in Boston. Their circumstantial evidence is piling
Speaker 1: up to suggest that it's going to happen any day now.
Speaker 1: If Tatum had to decide to set out to see
Speaker 1: them a season, it would have given himself about seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half months of layoff before the next season
Speaker 1: kicks off mad October, basically the same timeline as Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: But should Tatum suit up for the Celtics this week
Speaker 1: through he'd be returning in about ten months after he
Speaker 1: went down in the closing minutes of Game four in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Semifinals against the Knicks last year. The
Speaker 1: ten month return would mark the shortest the shortest post
Speaker 1: Achilles absent for a starting player since the twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: to sixteen season, in which Rudy Gay came back under
Speaker 1: nine months with the Kings. Joe, you think Jason is
Speaker 1: doing the right thing? Or should the Celtics protective and
Speaker 1: say no, bro, we see you next year.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: I think he's He's probably gonna give it a chance. Okay, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I would. I think considering the
Speaker 1: fact of where they're at in the standings, which is
Speaker 1: second in the Eastern Conference, I think they feel like
Speaker 1: they still have a window to where they can compete
Speaker 1: for a championship if they had him, because they could
Speaker 1: have used them the night against the Charlotte Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 1: Y'all see yant, I saw man Charlotte shoe. Hey they
Speaker 1: got some shooters. You look at Hey, look at LaMelo
Speaker 1: ball shooting not left foot, wrong foot? You got a miller,
Speaker 1: You got Kneple. You got a Coddington. Hey they not
Speaker 1: playing Bridges. Yeah, but I think, uh, I think Tatum
Speaker 1: Is won't come back. I think he's gonna come back.
Speaker 1: I mean he got his money, he got three hundred ms.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's another one. This was gonna be
Speaker 1: four hundred, right because he ain't but what twenty seven
Speaker 1: or twenty seven eight? Yeah, I think he's gonna come
Speaker 1: back because you know, the East so wide open, they
Speaker 1: gonna feel like they really got a chance.
Speaker 2: I can see him coming back this year. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well that's tough. Go ahead, what you're thinking, that's tough.
Speaker 4: It depends on how he feels. It depends on how
Speaker 4: you feel. They're playing so well too, being number two
Speaker 4: in the East, you know, coming out if anything, I
Speaker 4: would chill the rest of the season. I'll chill the
Speaker 4: rest of the season and maybe come back during the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I would say, maybe come back during the playoffs and
Speaker 4: if as well as they are playing, and do you
Speaker 4: do you really need to come back and you know
Speaker 4: hurts yourself a little bit more coming back too soon.
Speaker 4: I mean, it all depends on how he's feeling. It
Speaker 4: just it's kind of iffy to me. You know, honestly,
Speaker 4: coming back mess up that continuity, messing up you know,
Speaker 4: the rhythm of the team and then some of the
Speaker 4: things that have been going that have been going so well.
Speaker 4: Having him come back, I'm not sure. I mean, Joe,
Speaker 4: you you better off suited to understand it. You know,
Speaker 4: much better than I am. Is they've been playing so well.
Speaker 4: You insert him back into the lineup, and then he's
Speaker 4: you know, obviously you're a little rusty because you haven't
Speaker 4: played real live basketball.
Speaker 3: Yes, you practice, but.
Speaker 4: Game know, game game play is completely different. I just
Speaker 4: I think it would throw things off.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 1: a little bit of russ o Joe. But if he's
Speaker 1: able to come back, like they gonna take him like well,
Speaker 1: like I said, this this wind of opportunity that they
Speaker 1: have to get a chance to come out to East steal.
Speaker 1: The only thing about him coming back during the playoffs
Speaker 1: is that the intensity is gonna be rapped up so high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know if he tested that Achilles
Speaker 1: really really right now. I'm sure he is as far
Speaker 1: as weight training and getting out there playing two or
Speaker 1: two three and threes, but yeah, man, it's a different
Speaker 1: ball game, bro. When you get out there and you
Speaker 1: you know, you go to run around and try to
Speaker 1: get some of the boys off your bank. It's it's
Speaker 1: you know, that's a different game, man, and high high
Speaker 1: intensity play our atmosphere. I think what has happened? You
Speaker 1: guys are both correct. They're playing better than they even anticipated.
Speaker 1: And because they need the East, it is so wide open.
Speaker 1: We get him back, we are a major player because
Speaker 1: now we feel we have two of the top five
Speaker 1: guys in the Eastern Conference with JT and JB. It's
Speaker 1: hard to say there are three. There are five players
Speaker 1: better than those two. Now, you might like Brunson or
Speaker 1: whomever you like in the Eastern Conference, but they have
Speaker 1: two of the five best players in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: And we feel that if.
Speaker 1: We get JT back, why can't we come out. Can
Speaker 1: we beat the Knicks? Absolutely? Can we beat Cleveland? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Can we beat Toronto? Absolutely? So that's the way they're
Speaker 1: looking at it. It's like, you know what, but who
Speaker 1: knows what's gonna happen next year? Somebody can make a
Speaker 1: make a power move and swing and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Giannis might end up somewhere, and we're not in the
Speaker 1: same boat this time as we were last year at
Speaker 1: this time. So they're like, you know what, let's go
Speaker 1: take full let's try to take full advantage of this opportunity.
Speaker 1: Uh it's you know, the kills is just and I
Speaker 1: understand technology is so much better, because the guy was
Speaker 1: explaining to me today, Oh Joe, the surgery that I
Speaker 1: had on my knee back in the nineties, it took
Speaker 1: an hour. Took seventy five minutes to do that same
Speaker 1: surgery in fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Now, em crazy.
Speaker 1: The surgery used to take three four hours to do
Speaker 1: hip surgeries. To do these same surgeries and seventy five
Speaker 1: minutes to an hour even breaking the bone, taking it out,
Speaker 1: putting it in there. Because mostly everything is everything is
Speaker 1: robotic now, ain't nobody ain't They ain't doing no scaffold.
Speaker 1: They said that, they said that miss steping, but that
Speaker 1: robot up.
Speaker 2: Wait yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Hey that that that robot? Hey, hey man.
Speaker 1: They say they say in a few years, they say,
Speaker 1: in a few years, if you ain't no electrician or
Speaker 1: plumb or something, well your job is expendable.
Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmmm, yeah yeah, damn well.
Speaker 1: You know these robots gonna be out. You go back
Speaker 1: up my younger days. I did a little plumber. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a little plumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I told you now, I told you about laying your
Speaker 1: best pipe down in the rent houses.
Speaker 2: I told you know, I saved something. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you, I saved something. I saved it.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I already know.
Speaker 2: But you want to put down a mean yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just let if I if I up and need
Speaker 1: of some repairs, I know who to call, you know, hello,
Speaker 1: you never.
Speaker 2: Know, Hello Hello.
Speaker 1: But uh it sure seems like, uh he's trying to
Speaker 1: he's gearing up to come back. And I think the
Speaker 1: thing is is that you want to be in a
Speaker 1: situation where he he gets probably say, fifteen games in
Speaker 1: before the playoffs start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 1: Think that's kind of kind of kind of the situation
Speaker 1: that they're kind of gearing up for.
Speaker 2: And if you you know, reading the.
Speaker 1: Tea leaves and see what everything is going, that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's kind of how it's shaping up. I would
Speaker 1: be a little hesitant because knowing the last thing you
Speaker 1: wanted to do that again and knock on wood, play
Speaker 1: that don't happen. I just hope everything goes according to
Speaker 1: playing the Kevin Durant timeline will seem great to me
Speaker 1: because KD doesn't seem like he missed a beat. They
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he missed nothing. But he took the
Speaker 1: whole Yeah, took nvteen months because remember he heard it
Speaker 1: uh in twenty uh uh and then they had the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season.
Speaker 2: Then what you call him happen. The COVID happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that time off and then he came back, so
Speaker 1: he didn't come back to what like November, So that happened.
Speaker 6: And yeah, so it's gonna be we'll we'll see, yeah,
Speaker 6: because he tore that in June of twenty nineteen, and
Speaker 6: he didn't come back until like what September October because
Speaker 6: of the ended and so yeah, so he didn't come
Speaker 6: ouf to like November December because remember they came right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't see k I said.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum ran on this on this thing, okay, okay, Katie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, eighteen point four months. Yeah, John
Speaker 1: Wall took off almost almost two years. But I think
Speaker 1: John Waller, I think John Waller's mother had passed or
Speaker 1: something in between that also, but hold on, I think
Speaker 1: he re injured. He might did, yeah, he re I
Speaker 1: think he reinjured.
Speaker 2: At home something.
Speaker 1: You're right, damn, which is common. You somebody somebody else
Speaker 1: did that too. They ended up retearing it, which I
Speaker 1: think that's no fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got to be careful, Yes, you got
Speaker 4: to be careful, especially if you fear anything.
Speaker 3: I'm obviously he's doing what's necessary. They got the right doctors,
Speaker 3: the right resources, and you know, medical people people there.
Speaker 4: Just man that pushing in and that that jerky urky movement,
Speaker 4: you know, playing basketball, and I don't know, boy, it
Speaker 4: got me nervous.
Speaker 2: It's not even me. John T.
Speaker 1: Murray took thirteen months, but it's normally if you you
Speaker 1: projected out, Rudy Go, Rudy Gay was less than nine months.
Speaker 1: But if you look at it, most of the time,
Speaker 1: it's about twelve, somewhere between twelve and fourteen months.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When when Halliburton come back, he took me off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he off this year. Yeah, because I don't think
Speaker 1: they're in the contention to do that. So he won't
Speaker 1: be back. He will not be back until. So he
Speaker 1: tore it in June of last year, so July, that'll
Speaker 1: be thirteen August, September. So at bare minimum, they don't
Speaker 1: play it till. So that's sixteen months. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: sixteen months at the bare minimum. Jean Watson tore his
Speaker 1: He he's done for a year. It's gonna be you know, remember, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: he tore he is he missed all says. So now
Speaker 1: we're looking at you, you're talking about looking like like
Speaker 1: not eighteen nineteen months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it him? Who did it? Who reinjured? He
Speaker 2: is at home too? I think he did? Yes, Yes, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful, man, anything of sudden the scooter
Speaker 1: stops or something. You know, you got you got this,
Speaker 1: you're on that scooter. Who Rich, Paul, and Mack Kellerman
Speaker 1: disagree on how MJ would do in the modern era.
Speaker 1: Max says MJ would average forty point triple double today.
Speaker 1: Rich says, these kids today, they don't they're not bowing
Speaker 1: down to nobody. They're not just gonna sit around and
Speaker 1: let you shoot every shot. Joe, Who do you agree
Speaker 1: with on this one.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with Max.
Speaker 1: I think you know, the cream always rises to the top,
Speaker 1: like I do. Think MJ would probably average about forty
Speaker 1: in this era. Okay, oh Joe, Uh, he was so
Speaker 1: dyna dam He was fast, he was quick, he was
Speaker 1: explosive with an unstoppable turnaround mid range jump shot of
Speaker 1: you kidding it ain't but a couple of guys shoot
Speaker 1: the mini now, right?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you ain't shooting a three or duncan something at
Speaker 1: the real ain't nobody forty points on minies. That means
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to get up eight to ten threes
Speaker 1: a game. And he said, I don't like to shoot
Speaker 1: the three because it takes away from my aggressiveness.
Speaker 2: Now something's gonna have to change, joke. But he's a
Speaker 2: two way player.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get at least eight to sixty twelve points
Speaker 1: off defense. Now, the way, the the way the boys
Speaker 1: shooting this, it's a it's a faster pace. He ain't
Speaker 1: necessarily probably gonna shoot a lot more threes. I mean,
Speaker 1: he'll probably take a couple more. But for the most
Speaker 1: part he was so relentless and getting to the basket.
Speaker 1: Who's gon, whos gonna be able to stay in.
Speaker 2: Front of him?
Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody, I'm in front of them. I agree with
Speaker 4: Max too. You have to think during Jordan's era, they
Speaker 4: played a little bit more defense, Joe, they was a
Speaker 4: little bit more aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you go.
Speaker 4: To that goddamn hole, they gonna, they gonna, they're gonna
Speaker 4: meet you.
Speaker 1: But but you guys are looking at it like Jordan
Speaker 1: or who he is and what he's become. Now imagine
Speaker 1: him being on a team and he's not Michael Jordan yet.
Speaker 2: So now you.
Speaker 1: Think they're gonna just say, okay, shoot twenty seven times
Speaker 1: a game, because when he averaged when he averaged that
Speaker 1: that thirty seven, he was shooting about twenty seven twenty
Speaker 1: eight times a game. And the way these kids the
Speaker 1: wired now, these kids don't really respect anything. It's either
Speaker 1: to say they respect Jordan now because Jordan's retired, but
Speaker 1: look at him on the on your team. It's hard, man.
Speaker 1: These guys they did. These can different now, Joe. They
Speaker 1: not like you, Joe, They're not like you and I
Speaker 1: we would have easily okay, okay, do your thing, bro.
Speaker 1: These kids, like I'm trying.
Speaker 5: To get.
Speaker 3: Even if they didn't care Joe. Uncle Joe is still Jordan.
Speaker 3: He's still gonna get his.
Speaker 4: Regardless regards of whether they respect him or not.
Speaker 1: Jan I give you private I'll give you a prime example.
Speaker 1: You get a couple of guys like Kobe. Everyone conceding
Speaker 1: is the shot he's nine. He didn't, and what happened.
Speaker 1: They broke it up. Kyrie got fed up. He ain't conceding.
Speaker 1: What happened. They traded him, they broke it up. So
Speaker 1: you gotta look look at look at not like Jordan
Speaker 1: now with the Jordan brand, the jump man, the NASCAR
Speaker 1: and all that. You gotta look at him at today
Speaker 1: in a today's game player. These guys they don't respect
Speaker 1: much ojo yo.
Speaker 4: And that that's the thing though, Uncle Joe, even if
Speaker 4: they don't respect it, we're talking about skill set. What
Speaker 4: he's able to do, right, he's able to do. Jordan
Speaker 4: is one of the few players. I mean, there are
Speaker 4: a few players that can play in any goddamn era
Speaker 4: and dominate, especially this era.
Speaker 1: But I gotta give you the ball, oo. I just
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take the ball like you're headed than you
Speaker 1: and just turn it over to you.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I tried to get I mean listen, I mean, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 4: we're talking about Jordan at his best. I'm assuming being
Speaker 4: in today's Yes, he putting up forty a games, o Joe.
Speaker 1: But you gotta realize back then there were in a
Speaker 1: whole lot of player. These guys now are more skilled.
Speaker 1: They're more skilled guys now than they were then. Absolutely right,
Speaker 1: them guys couldn't shoot everybody on everybody on the team
Speaker 1: now to shoot the three, yeah, okay, you had Steve Curry,
Speaker 1: you had a job, and you had a Paxson and
Speaker 1: a Craig Hodges. That's three guys on the ball. Every
Speaker 1: once in a while. Jordan would get hot. But Jordan
Speaker 1: is about a thirty two point shooter these guys now,
Speaker 1: Do I think Jordan would dominate? Yes, but I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to give some threes up. I just
Speaker 1: don't believe it. As aggressive as he is to the basket,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if get into the basket and
Speaker 1: shooting the mini Joe, I don't know if that's enough.
Speaker 1: You gotta hit the three. You gotta get you gotta
Speaker 1: get six seven threes up. I think I think he
Speaker 1: would definitely increase his three point percentage, but the fact
Speaker 1: that couldn't nobody stay in front of him. I just
Speaker 1: and then let you play Joe. Yeah, I know, but
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna get man. I think the thing is
Speaker 1: the forty point triple double.
Speaker 2: That's what throwing me off.
Speaker 1: If you say he gonna have, I give you that,
Speaker 1: But a forty point triple double that's gonna be That's
Speaker 1: the I'm not saying he couldn't average forty. Oh absolutely
Speaker 1: he could average four.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, okay, okay, okay, it's the forty point
Speaker 4: triple double hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty point triple double is tough because what Yoki
Speaker 1: is doing, it's so the add what he probably need
Speaker 1: another ten another double?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's shooting.
Speaker 1: He's a twenty nine ten and twelve twelve. He's averaging
Speaker 1: twelve rebounds uh uh and uh ten or sister. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forty point triple double and rebound well, forty points he
Speaker 1: getting that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4: Well, hell, I'm telling you if you got Shade doing
Speaker 4: what he's done doing every night before injury, he just
Speaker 4: came back what he had.
Speaker 3: Twenty six, twenty seven yeah, yeah, and remember he had
Speaker 3: thirty the other night.
Speaker 2: And he and he ministerstriction. Hey hey hey.
Speaker 1: And then when you look when you look at them
Speaker 1: old Bulls teams even I mean Michael Jordan leading the catalysts.
Speaker 2: Man, them dudes were yoked up. Okay, I'm talking my boy.
Speaker 1: The boy will cut up then this I mean uh
Speaker 1: Scott uh Dennis yea. Yes, they had the breakfast club
Speaker 1: to where they met and they lift face and all
Speaker 1: that before practice.
Speaker 2: Them dudes didn't play no games, you.
Speaker 1: Know, they they they they was And plus you gotta
Speaker 1: think about it, Joe, to get average a triple double
Speaker 1: as a guard, you gotta I mean, Russ.
Speaker 2: What Russ did is.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable because you gotta chase down a lot of loose
Speaker 1: balls to get that ten rebounds a game. And that's
Speaker 1: what we give Russ credit for it, because like we're like, damn,
Speaker 1: this man, Russ is the best rebounding guard We've ever
Speaker 1: seen a guy to six for the league just getting
Speaker 1: rebounds like that. But that's a lot of effort that
Speaker 1: you gotta exert to go chase that rebounds. The hardest
Speaker 1: part is, I think it's a sense because you got
Speaker 1: to count on somebody to make the shot. I'll get
Speaker 1: I give you, I give you the best situation. But
Speaker 1: if you blow the lay up or blow the bunny,
Speaker 1: you you cost me forty points, no question in my mind,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan can average forty points. Hell, I think lad Byrd,
Speaker 1: the way he shot the ball, I think he could
Speaker 1: average thirty five. But then when you start talking about
Speaker 1: the triple double.
Speaker 2: Who that mean? That means you gotta go out there hunting?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, And that's why that's why they gave
Speaker 1: Russ so much slack, because they felt like he was
Speaker 1: out there stat padding, you know, getting them triple doubles,
Speaker 1: but he out there hunting for them rebounds right every
Speaker 1: time they get them. If you are big, you up
Speaker 1: under the basket, you're gonna get it. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of them, right right right.
Speaker 2: But as a guard, you gotta make a conscious to
Speaker 2: make a conscience get down there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now Jordan's in that kind of shape, because Russ is
Speaker 1: in that kind of shape to exert that kind of
Speaker 1: energy to push the pace like he's pushing the pace
Speaker 1: to go and get the rebounds a box out to
Speaker 1: go way over there and track down the rebounds.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of energy. No, doubt in my mind
Speaker 2: that he could average forty.
Speaker 1: But it's the double digital system, double digit rebounds, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about that now. I
Speaker 1: think that's asking a bit much. Wasn't he averaged thirty
Speaker 1: seven eight and eight? Yeah, he averaged thirty seven eight
Speaker 1: and eight the year he won the MVP.
Speaker 2: Or was it thirty five? I think eighty five eighty six?
Speaker 2: What year did it? What was it?
Speaker 1: Or was it eighty seven eighty eight that he won
Speaker 1: MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. He's the first
Speaker 1: to win them in the same season.
Speaker 2: Damn all, I ain't gonna even lie.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I know it in his career,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the thing, man, It's got to
Speaker 1: be early in your career, because boy, you you if
Speaker 1: you if it be though twenty eight, twenty nine, chasing, chasing,
Speaker 1: chasing behind that basketball like that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep the hat to Russ. You do you
Speaker 1: understand for a guard to get that many rebounds? Do
Speaker 1: you understand the kind of effort, the energy, the effort
Speaker 1: that he gotta put forth every single night. I don't
Speaker 1: think people understand that part, You know, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the Knights where you don't feel like you really gotta
Speaker 1: go out there and exert their energy to really get
Speaker 1: them rebounds, get them assists, you know, to score them points.
Speaker 2: Like that's tough, bro.
Speaker 1: Death, but look, just to put the ball in the
Speaker 1: basket the way he could put the ball in the
Speaker 1: basket and you couldn't hand checking. Yeah, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to keep. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to keep it. Hey, But the problem is, Joe, they
Speaker 1: might get mad because they don't like you shoot. Either
Speaker 1: you dunk the ball or you shoot the three. You
Speaker 1: ain't shooting no minute. They get mad if you shoot
Speaker 1: the mini. Yeah, the analytics, analytics, we don't want to
Speaker 1: shoot the man. Damn man, I'm getting to this fight.
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up. It's cash y'all talk about they messing
Speaker 1: up the game man taking the mini out. Bro'll had
Speaker 1: hump on the podcast and shoup, say you guy, Hey,
Speaker 1: he was at the three point line. He fake got up.
Speaker 1: Guy came flying out the rep flying out the sky.
Speaker 1: He put the ball two thousand, shot the mini. They
Speaker 1: took him out the game, Like, what you mean that's
Speaker 1: talk about that's a bad shot. That's a bad shot.
Speaker 1: That what you mean the guy flew past me. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: once he fly past your Hey, gather yourself, shoot the
Speaker 1: three right right?
Speaker 2: Really, a fifteen foot two point shot is a bad shot.
Speaker 1: Now, dang hey, that's that's all they told was growing up.
Speaker 1: Shoot that fifteen foot That's all my uncle used to
Speaker 1: talk about a man when I was in high school.
Speaker 2: When I was in high school, a man, Hey, you
Speaker 2: gotta get that fifteen foot in your game. Man, you
Speaker 2: gotta get that fifteen foot. I'm like, all right, bro'
Speaker 2: working there fifteen foot in your game. Joe. You need
Speaker 2: that twenty two foot of your game. You need it.
Speaker 2: Ain't look, I'm gonna keep it real. You need it all.
Speaker 1: Like you know, the great one, yea great one was
Speaker 1: the great scores. Guys who really loved the score on.
Speaker 1: They got everything and they arsenal from the little touch
Speaker 1: shots that we call folders, yeah, middies, to the to
Speaker 1: the twenty two footters to the three, to the two
Speaker 1: three steps behind the three point line.
Speaker 2: They call them four level scores.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I'm I'm gonna add Joe, but what you
Speaker 3: what your midy looking like.
Speaker 2: Right now cash cash? Yeah you think so?
Speaker 4: Man, Listen, see I mean, hold on, Joe, but you're saying,
Speaker 4: you saying your midy is cash. But it's a cash
Speaker 4: for somebody guard you.
Speaker 3: That's the difference.
Speaker 1: Look if you're trying to say when you guard me,
Speaker 1: I shoot that tower man on you? Oh Jo, I
Speaker 1: don't even see you when I go up to shoot
Speaker 1: it and I let that goose neck, we call it that.
Speaker 2: That's that goose neck. You see that? Yeah? He a Joe?
Speaker 3: Can I say something real quick? I mean, no disrespect,
Speaker 3: I know, but you got to bring the ball up.
Speaker 3: How you gonna bring the ball up when I'm in
Speaker 3: your face?
Speaker 1: Well in my shot pockets. So in basketball you got
Speaker 1: shot pockets. And I work on hot high pickups. So
Speaker 1: by the time pick it up, that's like up there,
Speaker 1: you know, close to where your where your eyes that
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna you ain't gonna see.
Speaker 2: None of this here. Don't worry about that. Just get
Speaker 2: it out of Joe.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, Joe really thinks sh it's sweet, Like I
Speaker 4: can't I can't wait till we do this little.
Speaker 2: One on one.
Speaker 4: I mean, like it ain't it ain't what you think
Speaker 4: it is, play boy.
Speaker 2: I know, I just sport.
Speaker 4: I respect you and what you do, but it really
Speaker 4: it really ain't finna be.
Speaker 1: That a a you need how to aduct sayss man.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be Yeah, you ain't doing nothing with
Speaker 1: this hell.
Speaker 2: Yo, litter. You too little and you ain't got enough
Speaker 2: breaks in your back pocket home work. Joe.
Speaker 3: I'm six four two o five.
Speaker 2: Joe, what you mean I've been around you, partner, you ain't.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm six three.
Speaker 2: I'm six three, and I think they think that.
Speaker 1: But also the one thing we know, the really great
Speaker 1: players can bother their game. You look at look at Lebron.
Speaker 1: Lebron didn't shoot the three. I mean he's struggled a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's struggling a little bit, but you see
Speaker 1: every he's like, you know what, if I want to
Speaker 1: stay I'm gonna have to shoot this three. Look at
Speaker 1: brook Lopez. Brook Lopez has found a way to stay
Speaker 1: in the game because he's never been a great rebounder.
Speaker 1: But guess what he's been able to do at seven
Speaker 1: foot tall, He's been able to go beyond the three
Speaker 1: point line and make an honest living doing that. And
Speaker 1: so Jordan absolutely gotten better. Jordan would have got so
Speaker 1: the forty points. I ain't even worried about the forty.
Speaker 1: The forty is easy, that's easy. You're hoping you don't
Speaker 1: get forty five fifty because think about it and basketball
Speaker 1: fellas you got. All you do, bro is go to
Speaker 1: the gym and work on and shoot your and shoot jumpers,
Speaker 1: shoot jumpers all day. So if you do that every
Speaker 1: day consistently, you know, repetitions, repetitions, repetitions, Man, you're gonna
Speaker 1: become a hell of a shooter. So that's why when
Speaker 1: Lebron first came into the NBA ojoe, he wasn't.
Speaker 2: No great shooter.
Speaker 1: He had to work on that. He had to work
Speaker 1: on that. Then he became a pretty good shooter. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You ain't doing You can't do
Speaker 1: nothing with what he got going on. And this thing
Speaker 1: is kind of like what they did the same thing
Speaker 1: with him that they do they honest, build a wall.
Speaker 1: You got to keep him out of the paint, keep
Speaker 1: him out of the lane. Hey, Pop was telling back off,
Speaker 1: give him that. If you want to to to the
Speaker 1: seventeen foot, let him have it, just don't so close
Speaker 1: that he can go by you and dunk on your head.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: So hey, and the really good, the really good guys,
Speaker 1: they're gonna adapt, They're gonna find a way. They're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to get the job done. Now you know,
Speaker 1: they said Jordan couldn't go this way and he couldn't
Speaker 1: go that way. All I know is nobody could put
Speaker 1: the ball. And they toobouch was this guy is a
Speaker 1: better scorer.
Speaker 2: All I know?
Speaker 1: If that man had a bunch of thirty points seasons,
Speaker 1: you don't win Jim scoring titles? Would I being prolific
Speaker 1: and put the ball in the basket?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hen and say he wanted to consent he won seven consecutive,
Speaker 1: took a break and say you know what I see,
Speaker 1: I'll be back and one three more.
Speaker 4: Hey a uncle Joe, what if Jordan never did take
Speaker 4: that break, do you see any more championships in that window.
Speaker 3: Where he was gone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would have got two more. I think
Speaker 1: he got bored. I think he got bored. Okay, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: that's why he wanted. You know, obviously his dad passing
Speaker 1: probably weighed a lot on him and him want to
Speaker 1: go try baseball to see if he and he was
Speaker 1: so good at basketball. I think he was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think to take this greatness the baseball.
Speaker 3: I want to challenge myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He went out for that challenge, took a couple of
Speaker 1: years out, came back and picked the right way to
Speaker 1: left off it.
Speaker 2: I ain't nobody done that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, man, it's it's easy to
Speaker 1: say yes, but we've seen, you know, an injury here
Speaker 1: or injury there, and that changes the whole landscape. Because
Speaker 1: we saw Scotty Pippens back. I gave out on him
Speaker 1: and it almost cost him a series against Utah, and
Speaker 1: before and before they really started winning, Scotty had problems
Speaker 1: with my grades and we saw how that and hip
Speaker 1: impacted them winning.
Speaker 2: So man, so many things have to be right.
Speaker 1: And for the most part, he never got injured in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He never had nothing was reported. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he had bumps and bruises, but he really
Speaker 1: never had. And he never had a teammate. He didn't
Speaker 1: have a teammate to go down like or when San
Speaker 1: Antonio had was going and they would look like they
Speaker 1: were gonna give Golden State all they can handle. And
Speaker 1: for cheap shot in Kawhi lands on his ankles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: boom he out, Yeah, Kyrie and Kevin love he's out.
Speaker 2: Uh Magic.
Speaker 1: One year Magic heard his hamstring and then James word
Speaker 1: to hurt his hamstring. The Bulls were very, very fortunate
Speaker 1: not to have any serious injuries. But to put together
Speaker 1: a streak like that, Joe, where they won, they won,
Speaker 1: you know, three and three, But to put it together.
Speaker 2: And to go eight straight, to go eight straight years.
Speaker 1: It's hard man to keep all that rubb on the
Speaker 1: tread because think about you going you you playing the
Speaker 1: June every year, Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it.
Speaker 1: Your mentality gotta be different, Oho, Like these dudes never
Speaker 1: got satisfied with winning with success, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They was always okay, boom, let's win another one. Boom,
Speaker 1: let's win another one.
Speaker 2: Like bro.
Speaker 1: Mentally, it's got to wear in town because you going
Speaker 1: to the end of the season every year and then
Speaker 1: picking right back up with.
Speaker 2: Oh we got a bad special guests joining us.
Speaker 1: Now it's time to welcome mister tenderism himself, mister Walter Johnson.
Speaker 2: Mister Johnson, how you doing you muted? Unmute yourself?
Speaker 1: H old school like now I don't know what. Hopefully
Speaker 1: somebody that could he he's muted. Jack Bear, would just
Speaker 1: a second, get somebody with him.
Speaker 3: Minute, if I if this world were mine.
Speaker 2: Takeing time.
Speaker 1: Cool, Hey, this barbecue is just it's just getting tender,
Speaker 1: it's just getting this gonna fall out the ball when
Speaker 1: you come on.
Speaker 2: It's gonna fall out the ball on y'all, So just
Speaker 2: be with just uh oh h there y'all hear me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got you down.
Speaker 5: No. I don't know why y'all was trying to crack
Speaker 5: on me.
Speaker 2: Mike talk about.
Speaker 4: Mike.
Speaker 5: Hey, but anyway, man, hey, man, why.
Speaker 2: Y'all doing me like that?
Speaker 5: Mine?
Speaker 2: Old man, I do y'all like that? Can we go
Speaker 2: once you're putting the glasses on? I said, are about
Speaker 2: to get worked out?
Speaker 5: Now? Yeah, that's the fact. Jack Hey, hey, can you
Speaker 5: can you see me?
Speaker 2: We can see you?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: Everything cool, everything is everything. And I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Dona's man. You accept me on your showing shop.
Speaker 1: Thank you, no, thank you for coming on. Uncle O,
Speaker 1: Joey and Joe we really appreciate you. Can we go
Speaker 1: back to the beginning. How does this how did you
Speaker 1: become involved in? How did this destination smoke house. How
Speaker 1: did this thing take off?
Speaker 7: Hey, you know, I'll tell you what it was. See,
Speaker 7: we started at h it was a place. It was
Speaker 7: it was a shop, okay, it was a coffee shop, okay.
Speaker 7: And I went in about five years ago, and then
Speaker 7: I made some gumbo. I've been with him married since,
Speaker 7: and uh so we flipped the coffee shop to a
Speaker 7: smoke house.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you go in there, it was a coffee shop.
Speaker 1: You go in there and make some gumbo, and you
Speaker 1: turn it into a smokehouse. Now I found out about
Speaker 1: destination because I see you and you talk about you
Speaker 1: shaking the stuff, the risk it and the beef rims
Speaker 1: and it's falling off the bones. Then you started doing oxtail.
Speaker 1: So from the time we got to the coffee shop
Speaker 1: turning into the smoke the smoke house, until we are now,
Speaker 1: how do we get from that to this to where.
Speaker 2: We are now? Mister Johnson, Indism, tendonism, tending.
Speaker 5: There's that's how we got there.
Speaker 2: Oh tendonism. You fact you coined the phrase tenderism, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: And so now it seems like everybody started like, man,
Speaker 1: oh got this thing going on because a lot of
Speaker 1: people in.
Speaker 2: The beginning thought it was your shop.
Speaker 1: They didn't realize that you had You know, you fixed
Speaker 1: the gumbow, but you were not the sole proprietor. Or
Speaker 1: you weren't the proprietor of the shop. So how do
Speaker 1: we end up?
Speaker 2: Is there a fallout? Are you still cool with the owner?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Because I'm hearing that you open up a shop in Texas,
Speaker 1: might be having something coming to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: So how did we get to where we are now?
Speaker 2: Mister Johnson, Hey.
Speaker 7: Man, this is how we got here? Sean, Hey, uh,
Speaker 7: tex Houston. Let's talk with Houston.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: I spoke to a gentleman one night. He said, I
Speaker 7: got two restaurants. Okay, cool. I looked at the restaurant.
Speaker 7: Now what I will do is go out there and
Speaker 7: help him open the restaurant so he can get him
Speaker 7: a team. But I'm in California and then moving to Houston.
Speaker 7: Hey man, I ain't no young chicken no more. You Hey,
Speaker 7: you're still with their way all right there?
Speaker 5: Man, Let's let's be.
Speaker 2: For real about this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you ain't all Federal Boulevard, no more running up
Speaker 7: down the field. So now little you know about that
Speaker 7: don't worry about it.
Speaker 5: I was right around calling front you. Oh yeah at
Speaker 5: that time, Yes, sir, yeah.
Speaker 7: As matter of fact, when you ask me that question,
Speaker 7: you make some koonyak too. Man, you can email my
Speaker 7: koyak tonight.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I'm just a man. Don't be playing with him.
Speaker 2: Mine.
Speaker 5: It's south Side Chicago.
Speaker 2: I can get it. I can get it to you.
Speaker 5: Hey, just get it to me. Man, look at him,
Speaker 5: south Side Chicago, on the west Side. You grew up
Speaker 5: on one, I'm saying I did.
Speaker 2: I grew up on the south side.
Speaker 7: Okay, everybody ready to say ain't street stuff like that.
Speaker 7: But anyway, I don't know too much about south Side.
Speaker 5: I know you know about that. Hell though, yes you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Johnson, I left at the Bear. So now
Speaker 1: I left at a bear. Young age, you're gonna help
Speaker 1: a gentleman open up a restaurant.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 1: I will restaurant, I will, you will? Is there anything?
Speaker 1: Is there anything brewing in Atlanta?
Speaker 7: In Atlanta, I gotta go down there and talk to
Speaker 7: a guy's Steve Barbecue.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go down there and check him out
Speaker 5: and if he needs some assistance, if he got together cooling,
Speaker 5: the gang. I'm gonna let you know.
Speaker 7: Listen, tending is approve of it. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If you don't have together our champs to tweets twarks,
Speaker 7: you know I put that snapback on me.
Speaker 5: You did what I'm saying, get it, yes.
Speaker 2: Sir, Hey, hey, tell me something, mister Titanism.
Speaker 1: Hey, you you tell them the difference between barbecue and
Speaker 1: and grill, because see a lot of these can't think
Speaker 1: they putting meat on the grill and they think they
Speaker 1: got the tendonism. Tell them the difference between the barbecue
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you probably over there using a smoker.
Speaker 5: I you smoking barbecue two bricks? Uh? The other grilly? Man?
Speaker 5: Look at you. I've been doing the boy. I get
Speaker 5: out like fat and cheese factory. Yeah, where you at?
Speaker 5: I come to your house and I'm cook saying.
Speaker 7: You tell me, mister sharp tendondism when I finished tendingdism.
Speaker 5: You don't need no teeth for the meat.
Speaker 3: That's right, Hey, mis Johnson, we ate listen. My last
Speaker 3: name Johnson too.
Speaker 4: We might be related because you you you got to
Speaker 4: get the gap.
Speaker 5: Hey, I don't know, hey man, look at you? He wait?
Speaker 7: Wait, wait, whoa whoa, Hey, Hey, he ain't the daddy ain't.
Speaker 7: Look I don't love if y'all trying to get on line.
Speaker 7: I ain't got no anyhow. Hey Sean, Oh that call Mike. Hey,
Speaker 7: but hey, John, I ain't hold our brothers though, I
Speaker 7: ain't what you talking about.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 4: You ain't got no family down here, man.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, man, call it the whole of us. Yes, sure, yeah,
Speaker 5: I had brothers. Ooh we one sister.
Speaker 2: Hey, where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 5: I was balling Gary, Indiana? And I know about that
Speaker 5: south side too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Yes, that's why you that's why
Speaker 2: you're so familiar with Chicago. You right the corner.
Speaker 5: H familiar with it. Boy, look at her.
Speaker 7: I won't tell you anyhow. We're gonna move right along
Speaker 7: from Shintown. And then yeah, no, man, I spent a
Speaker 7: whole lot of time in the South. Yeah, yeah, learning
Speaker 7: different trays about cooking.
Speaker 1: So did you ever did you ever envision that the
Speaker 1: tenderest tendernessm and what you had started?
Speaker 2: Did you ever think it would blow up like this?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: When? When? When did you realize that you know, what
Speaker 2: we might be onto something?
Speaker 7: When I rolled that oxtail man one day man on
Speaker 7: the side of the building of Black Diamonds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it came off like an orange.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew it was on something new and I said, oh,
Speaker 7: look a here that tended NILSM.
Speaker 5: And then from that point on, man, look just keep
Speaker 5: it like this. But hey, it is what it is,
Speaker 5: tender NAILSM. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, mister Johnson.
Speaker 4: For those that for those of us that are watching,
Speaker 4: including myself, if we want to try the tendonism and
Speaker 4: see what it's all about, where can we go?
Speaker 5: The only thing you have to do, say your address.
Speaker 7: Get us with this, Joe, doctor Joe White, and I'll
Speaker 7: come right over to your house in your backyard front yard.
Speaker 2: You cook it, you know, I think I can cook.
Speaker 2: You can look on that.
Speaker 5: What I just say, shark, you.
Speaker 2: Say you cooked? You say you cook?
Speaker 5: Hey man, it's p p P all right, Dan Man,
Speaker 5: len't me playing with me, Mike.
Speaker 2: So we did. I ain't got no smoke.
Speaker 1: I just got little with a little what a hardware grill,
Speaker 1: you know, the little round with Yeah, I ain't got
Speaker 1: worried about that.
Speaker 7: See home depot ain't too far from you, and we
Speaker 7: just go get you a smoker put in the backyard
Speaker 7: and I get dizzy.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's how that go again until you use it.
Speaker 7: Hey, Oh no, man, look, we ain't baying, you know,
Speaker 7: Hey man, you gotta pai.
Speaker 1: Man, come on, man, you know hey, yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: got no problem by the grill, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how to cook on the grill.
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm gonna teach you.
Speaker 7: Man. You hey man, you know, Hey man, come on,
Speaker 7: just let me take your glass off so you get
Speaker 7: a good little IM gonna take it off too, But
Speaker 7: while you cook it, I'm gonna be in the house
Speaker 7: watching TV.
Speaker 2: Let me know what he's ready? He now, Hey, I
Speaker 2: want to I want to learn.
Speaker 5: I want to.
Speaker 7: Let man, look, the only thing y'all got to do
Speaker 7: is set it up and I'll drop down.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm a matter of fact. Sometimes sometime this summer,
Speaker 4: mister Johnson, you know I have I.
Speaker 5: Have all my kids.
Speaker 4: I got, I got twenty You got twenty seventh kids,
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, the swift.
Speaker 5: Meat market right now, start buying me and then we
Speaker 5: working out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty seven kids. Okay, I definitely won't cook for you.
Speaker 7: You gotta help me out. Twenty seven kids.
Speaker 5: All look her. Yeah, that's all right, man, you.
Speaker 2: Can have them off. I just be there, uncle. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: We're gonna were gonna, we're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stream I'm gonna stream that on twitch.
Speaker 5: All right there?
Speaker 1: What what? What's what's the if? I said, okay, come in,
Speaker 1: I need you to cook. I got my family just close.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like fifteen twenty of us. But you
Speaker 1: what you cooking?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: Cook the ox tail, the beef, real pork chop, I mean,
Speaker 7: and then put some size on the you know, on
Speaker 7: the side.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, hey, the only thing you gotta do is
Speaker 5: tell me what you want.
Speaker 2: Go to the store and get it.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put it on the grill, tending this is
Speaker 7: gonna come out of you. Ain't gonna leave your teeth
Speaker 7: at home though, Yes.
Speaker 2: Sure, Hey, hey, hey, I want, I want.
Speaker 7: I'm looking for some of the many man, look her
Speaker 7: only they had a new go get about fire and brisket.
Speaker 5: I put all of them on it one time, and
Speaker 5: the oxtail and the poor chop.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, porob, you don't like cooking pork ribs?
Speaker 7: I like ribs hey, man, cook you some radios. Man,
Speaker 7: it don't make no different when they Saint Louis sparing.
Speaker 5: That's the difference.
Speaker 7: You asked me about smoking, so you can put you
Speaker 7: can smoke some rib or you can put them on
Speaker 7: the grill. To two different things about smoking that he
Speaker 7: gonna gonna carry and smoke the meat slow, but show
Speaker 7: now grilling.
Speaker 5: That's a fast cook. You gotta watch it. Yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 5: y'all want to do it fast cook? Slow cook? Yeah
Speaker 5: you know what steady all day long? You know what
Speaker 5: I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Slow and yeah, Well, I might go out before you come.
Speaker 1: I might go ahead and get on this egg right here,
Speaker 1: might go to home deep over tomorrow, get on this
Speaker 1: egg and work it out.
Speaker 2: So you know, me and you have a little competition.
Speaker 2: And I had attended rhythm too.
Speaker 5: Hey that's not that's not worry about competition.
Speaker 7: They were the all right now okay, So hey man, hey,
Speaker 7: you ain't gonna get touched down.
Speaker 5: You ain't can Yeah, right, look crazy, Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do something to you. Man.
Speaker 7: Have I'm like, let's try an easy stuff this, y'all.
Speaker 7: You won't that come yet.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just playing Okay, okay, okay, yeah, no, but
Speaker 1: I love them ox tails.
Speaker 2: I love them ox tails. Off the grill, I mean
Speaker 2: off off the smoker.
Speaker 5: Now, okay. One thing you got to do, man, get
Speaker 5: your smoker. I'll show up and show out.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Hey, how much how much mister Johnson? How
Speaker 3: much the smoker costs?
Speaker 5: I don't know. A couple of hundred dollars.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about a lot of smoking. Now, if you
Speaker 7: want to go get a gray, big smoker. No, y'all,
Speaker 7: just go down there to home depot. You want an
Speaker 7: off set and sit on the side.
Speaker 5: It's rounded. Its black. Yeah, just go get that.
Speaker 7: Call me up and y'all got them jets right, Just
Speaker 7: pick me up, man, just pick me up, and I'll
Speaker 7: come over there and get Bizzy.
Speaker 2: Will will fly where you in Houston will fly?
Speaker 5: I mean hent California?
Speaker 1: Where yeah, hey, hey, hey, but you're about to get
Speaker 1: ready to come here to it?
Speaker 2: Lanta? Where you going? I gonna come.
Speaker 7: I'll be out on thirteenth and fourteenth a March thirty. Yes, yes, sir,
Speaker 7: it's a fair Bill. It's Steve's Barbecue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve Barby, fair Bill, Georgia. Yeah, you know I
Speaker 1: saw him. I think if I saw him, I think
Speaker 1: I saw him on I g on TikTok.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, that's where I'm going. I'll be there. Hey, Joe,
Speaker 5: that you come down there at thirtyeen fourteen. You see
Speaker 5: what you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you like you like a high gun. You like
Speaker 2: a high barbecue gun. Off barbecue gun. Now, huh. You
Speaker 2: just go round and take your talis anywhere.
Speaker 7: Hey man, it's our tendaners. I'm trying tending. There's the
Speaker 7: whole world. I wanna go there. I ran tend and
Speaker 7: Nils and Campbell's. You know what I mean to Dubai.
Speaker 7: You understand, yes, sir, Hey, so you open it up
Speaker 7: your own, right man. I just want tend in the stuff.
Speaker 7: I come by people high and tending rag up. Man,
Speaker 7: ain't getting no younger man, you say, I don't get
Speaker 7: an early in the morning. You know it's four o'clock
Speaker 7: in the morning. Yeah, okay, then all right then, Hey,
Speaker 7: I little bit older y'all? Okay, Yeah, hey man, I
Speaker 7: don't know why y'all ain't shit me the four one
Speaker 7: k No, I'm just fine, No, I just playing.
Speaker 5: Hey, I like having fun, man, have fun.
Speaker 1: I mean we we I mean we look, we stopped.
Speaker 1: We still follably. We always gonn support you no matter
Speaker 1: where you go. Hey, yeah, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: You can go across the world. You can go wherever.
Speaker 1: If you got a social media page, and if you
Speaker 1: go close by, were gonna show up if we're gonna
Speaker 1: support you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And where you at? Yeah, I'm in Vegas?
Speaker 5: Hey, you next dollar? Mate?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, right, I just left California about two years ago.
Speaker 2: I was in LA for two years. Hey, you know
Speaker 2: eight years.
Speaker 5: Hey, we you're on the no side, south side Vegas.
Speaker 2: I'm in Summerlands. Yeah, I know where.
Speaker 5: It was about a hospital for the patche.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, actually I am.
Speaker 5: Hey, man, I don't know nothing about Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: You know something about it? You over here talking about
Speaker 2: forider Patche.
Speaker 5: I know understand.
Speaker 7: It's that tropic Canta, uh, Decatur, Rainbow. I don't know
Speaker 7: too much about it.
Speaker 5: Lake need what.
Speaker 2: You doing about what you do about Rainbow Lake b Tropicana.
Speaker 7: I just now I ran across through there because I
Speaker 7: might have been working at the MGM at the time.
Speaker 7: But anyhow, Yeah, and let me see some more of
Speaker 7: them places out there. Yeah, man, Now my daughter stay there, right,
Speaker 7: now oh.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah she does. Well, I'll tell you what when
Speaker 1: you come. When you come, visitor, I can have over
Speaker 1: to ready. Do I need cherry? Do I need cherry?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: What type of wood I need?
Speaker 5: Hey, get your hickory and and let me have Let
Speaker 5: you know, matter of fact.
Speaker 7: I called Joe right now, Hey, Joe, Hey man, we're
Speaker 7: going to Vegas. No, just just hey, right now, y'all
Speaker 7: right down the road four hours away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: You about what put the car on the road.
Speaker 7: Hey man, if I can put it on the road tonight,
Speaker 7: come down there. Hey, we need to stay at one
Speaker 7: of the hotel else or something, man, because you know
Speaker 7: we gotta do.
Speaker 5: This, right Hey, Joe, you listen to mine?
Speaker 7: Hey, man said Sharp, trying to get me down there mine,
Speaker 7: but uh, we gotta take.
Speaker 2: Care of the thing.
Speaker 5: No, just hey, but anytime you want me to call
Speaker 5: mister Sharp.
Speaker 2: You just you pick a date, just for the day.
Speaker 2: I say, you pick a.
Speaker 1: Day, Oh okay, because you know what we might have
Speaker 1: a like we have a night cap, get out and
Speaker 1: we bring all this then and you you know, you
Speaker 1: cook it up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, hey, well look at her night cap, afternoon cap,
Speaker 7: morning cap.
Speaker 5: I would do what I do. I have oxtails. What
Speaker 5: you talking about? Yeah? You ain't had one? Fol Hey
Speaker 5: you Okay, man, I ain't never heard that, don't you know.
Speaker 5: I'm a country ball. I do country things I do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And I love eating yes the fact Jack, Yes, sure,
Speaker 7: as sure as being just poke.
Speaker 2: Baby's so great to have you, mister Johnson.
Speaker 7: Hey man, good, it's great then, damn man, I'm hanging
Speaker 7: in there. Make I ain't gonna give up a quick Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to uh to donate to your
Speaker 1: gofund me? You gotta go fund me of cap set up.
Speaker 5: Right, it's walking Johnson, go fund me page.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we're gonna get We're gonna get something to you,
Speaker 1: mister Johnson, because we really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We appreciate everything that you've done.
Speaker 1: We love the fact that you came on and you
Speaker 1: talked about what you're doing, not what it's transpirted in
Speaker 1: the past. You didn't salt anybody up, you didn't talk
Speaker 1: negative about anybody you. All you talked about was positivity
Speaker 1: and about how you and can move forward. You have
Speaker 1: fun with o Jo and I and Joe, and we
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. So we're gonna get something to you.
Speaker 1: We look forward to see you. But this is not
Speaker 1: the last you've heard from night Cap. You will hear
Speaker 1: from us again.
Speaker 7: I want to come down now on the shout since
Speaker 7: you're not so far away.
Speaker 5: You down there, long the boy luck and help.
Speaker 2: Come on. You want to come on the live show?
Speaker 5: Hey, man, Yeah, I wanna come. Man, we shut up
Speaker 5: and kick it. Yeah, you just set it up mine.
Speaker 1: Hey, we'll definitely said it up. The next live show
Speaker 1: we have, you're gonna be on it. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: a guest on it.
Speaker 5: Hey. Okay, Hey man, I'm a whole you have to
Speaker 5: have too, mine and we are sure.
Speaker 2: Hey, we got it.
Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate it, though, Man, I appreciate Yes.
Speaker 2: Sir, I do.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you, mister Johnson. All right,
Speaker 1: the man tendanism that is, mister. That's the fact, Jack,
Speaker 1: Thank you with Jordan.
Speaker 2: Fact. You appreciate your time.
Speaker 7: I appreciate y'all. Talk to you about talk to y'all
Speaker 7: and get me that cool in the game. I'm gone,
Speaker 7: lou y'ah.
Speaker 1: Ah man, So we have to go for me. Account
Speaker 1: you about it. We're gonna put it. We're gonna pay it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pain that link in the chat.
Speaker 2: All right, then, God, appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all. Y'all take care of state safe. God bless all.
Speaker 1: Absolutely oo y'all. Thirteen fourteen. I hope you're coming down
Speaker 1: on the fifteen. You're gonna be busy that week.
Speaker 5: Hey, man, I ain't got no time not to be busy.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be busy, hey, the rest of my life. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: trying to get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see what it's talk about. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna check him out.
Speaker 7: Just stay right there at the night camp. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: check y'all out and bring y'all team together and we're.
Speaker 5: Gonna feed them. See hey, Jesus Jesus saying feed them.
Speaker 5: Then I give him the words. Yeah, because you can't
Speaker 5: do nothing on stuff here. I know I'm gonna look
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 2: I see you.
Speaker 5: You think I can't see you.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 5: You did what I'm saying you look. Yeah. Sure you
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be eat by yourself, though I eat too.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's what about Yes, sir, you like hotwire, corn bread,
Speaker 7: black eyed peas.
Speaker 3: Hey, what about the caddyam.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know damn, come on you can. Yeah, you're
Speaker 5: gonna be quaked.
Speaker 7: You know we love candy. Yeah, don't the family family
Speaker 7: we look talking about.
Speaker 5: I don't tell y'all. Get me there, you get me
Speaker 5: there proof and we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Make it happen. Hey, you know what, We're gonna make
Speaker 2: it happen. We're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 5: Cool in the game.
Speaker 2: I promise you this something. We're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, mister sharp.
Speaker 2: We might have to.
Speaker 1: We might have to start early in the morning and
Speaker 1: take a break because they get real hot and doing
Speaker 1: midday in Vegas.
Speaker 5: Hey, man, look stayed off for the patching.
Speaker 2: I think it stayed on.
Speaker 7: Leg be right off of Rainbow. Yeah, uh huh Tropic Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I know how hotly get.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it gets warm.
Speaker 7: I ain't worried about no heat because, hey, in the kitchen.
Speaker 7: If you can't stand the heat, you shouldn't be in
Speaker 7: that kitchen.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hello, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: got you.
Speaker 5: But y'all make it happen in our show, show up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it happen. We're gonna let you get
Speaker 1: on out of here, mister Johnson. Thanks joining us tonight.
Speaker 1: That and we look forward to seeing you real soon.
Speaker 5: All right, God bless y'all.
Speaker 7: Remember that I'll say this right here, that word life
Speaker 7: if you take the l E off life you'll have
Speaker 7: if you you wake up that that word our flank.
Speaker 2: Boo. Yeah, gone, appreciate you with yes, great rest of
Speaker 2: your evening. You do the same. Alrighty, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. Ready. Yeah, yeah, well I get you don't
Speaker 2: people to talk to mister Johnson.
Speaker 1: Man that that was great. We're gonna get him out here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring him out here. Yeah, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a I'm gonna have a home deep
Speaker 1: or the dember delivered me a little smoker, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get him out here and see what you're putting down.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, Joe, I'm sure gonna do something of the
Speaker 3: kids now.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, you know Grandma House, Grandma House is gonna
Speaker 3: be done in the.
Speaker 2: Summer, so you know, President, break it in.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm gonna break breaking in the way you useduld
Speaker 4: be back in the days. Grandma have all the kids over, man,
Speaker 4: you know, I got gotta get that that that that
Speaker 4: tradition back going.
Speaker 2: Man, damn, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Man, he was so bad, he was so geeked. Man,
Speaker 2: Thank y'all for a couple having me on night cap. Ben,
Speaker 2: he was geek man, we geet the habit right right.
Speaker 1: Hey, Look when y'all go to having these eventsful, now,
Speaker 1: y'all make sure y'all sitting there invite.
Speaker 4: Hey, Yo, we got you, Joe, We got you, Joe
Speaker 4: you Hey, Joe, you want us what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Man, you know, I had to just reassure some things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I see ragging too much, Joe,
Speaker 1: I'll see.
Speaker 2: Here you go, here you go. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: Uncle, I got you. Hey, we I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take care of you.
Speaker 4: Don't worry about it, gonna take care who you and
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna able to bring too much more much,
Speaker 4: too much longer.
Speaker 1: By Hey, man, y'all just got a chill, all right, well,
Speaker 1: just chill. Hey, let's blow up wherever go, Let's blow
Speaker 1: up that spot. Ben say, he traveling, He's traveling with
Speaker 1: their tenderness