1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: The volume. We are back. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: End of the week. Yes, still freezing in New York. 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: I love it. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: This is this is when I come alive. Weather drop fast. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Huh. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: October I think is my favorite month of the entire year. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: You missed October. I'm not misstroctor. Your October is very 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: own though. For sure that's a fact, but. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: I don't ever say that's a fact. Yeah, now you 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: n r M moll Yeah, exactly. I'm a n r 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: M roy exactly you are are, Yes. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: I know what it's like if it's our click, it's 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: like our a sap. Yeah, n r M pach blood 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: and blood out. No, I go, how come you not 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: have an n r M baby d chain? 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 5: You ain't bought one? 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot. We would have to buy the Yeah, 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: she could buy it, know the fuck I won't. We 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: never had a chaining day for the Americans. Right here 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: she got widdows the. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah walking around with hilarious baby right then? Yeah, now 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: you got I don't know. Our chaining day was with 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: going to w t F with Eddin. 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Was that chining pretty much? Pretty much? 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: The video Did y'all pay for add tattoo? Or did 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 5: he pay for himself. 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: It was free because we did content with was that inked? 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: I forgot who got the name of this? 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still got to get my basically tattooed touched 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: up a little bit. 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got that day. Yeah, I'll go back with 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Edden he can get his touched up. 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: But anyways, we are back. How's your week been? I've 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: been with the Week every day. We see each other 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: every day. You know exactly how my week's been. 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 39 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 4: Young Berg aka hit Maker episode is out right now 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: with a great hit maker, great conversation. 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: If you haven't checked it out, it's hilarious. 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: He tells some very funny stories about he's He's like 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: Maul said, off my yesterday. He's he's in that bow 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: wow like Forrest Gump of hip hop type type area. 45 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Origin is crazy. It's absolutely insight. His origin story is 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: absolutely crazy, like going like being discovered by DMX and 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: then being signed to DMX, then. 48 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: Being signed in one of Scott Yeah not in Violator. 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's kind of nuts. But we've had 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: Berg on a few times and he's still somehow always tells. 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: Us new stories every time he comes on. So he's 52 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: great guest. Check that out how many songs he got 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: dropped me today? 54 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Twenty one? 55 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: He says, I think more than that, and say like 56 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: thirty or forty or something. As you're listening to. 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: This, he's working. Man, got hit maker. I got to 58 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: know what his pub dey look like. Life is good 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: living in Miami. I might need to pay no mortgage. 60 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: I might need to borrow. 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, chilling. He putting forty songs. Let me borrow to today? Yeah, man, 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: just borrow a song exactly many. 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: We are sponsored by Boost right now. We have merch 65 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: on sale at new roymul dot com. Also, if you 66 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: want to hear this episode ad free, five dollars for 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: the whole month. Every single episode is AD free. Where 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: do you want to start? I don't want to start 69 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: in a somber place, but I mean I feel like 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: we do need to start by saying rest in peace 71 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: to one of the greatest musicians, singers, artists of our time, di'angelo. 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: This this was one of those this like when artists 74 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: die or celebrities die sometimes like oh that sucks with this, 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 4: this one like hurt, like I felt like I know 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 4: him and I've never met him. Yeah, it's this. I 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: don't even know where to begin on this one. How 78 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: many times in the last ten years of podcasting I 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: have we just discussed our Dmslow was one of our 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: favorite artists ever. Anytime we have an R and B debate, 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: first name we bringing up like he was one of them. Absolutely, 82 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: Like you can't compare his voice or style to any 83 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: other artist period, whether. 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Be pop, R and B and Neils or whatever. He 85 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a goat with you. 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: Know, three albums that he spread out in each generation 87 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: an era that he put an album out. 88 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: He changed the face of music during it. 89 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely so yeah, I mean, uh, you know, condolences to 90 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: his family, definitely, to his his son definitely, probably rough 91 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: rough year for him, losing both parents so so prise, 92 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: and condolences to his. 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: Son as well as his daughter too. 94 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: But did you ever have the privilege of meeting D'Angelo? 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Uh, he was in the studio one night. I forgot 96 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: whose session it was. He was in the studio, but 97 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: we never I never had the the privilege of having 98 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: an actual one on one conversation and kicking with kicking 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: it with him and giving him his flowers. But you know, 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: when you say di'angelo, you know for somebody growing up 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 3: in the nineties, we call it the golden of music. 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: R and B especially D'Angelo was was the guy that 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: you know, absolutely changed the style. You know, you used 104 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: to seeing musicians look a certain way. You know, I 105 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: used to seeing musicians with the talent level of it. 106 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 3: The Angelo would have corn rolls and you know, leather 107 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: jackets and no shirt. Like it was like, you know, 108 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: he just changed the style of what musicians look like, 109 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: especially in the nineties, Like he just came in. It was, 110 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: you know, just completely completely just changed the sound and 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: the energy in R and B soul. So many people 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: that are an extension of his talent and his musical genius. 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: So receiving that news of his past and was definitely heavy, 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: like you know, because the Angelo was never somebody that 115 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: was ever really in the headlines. So it's easy to 116 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: kind of like not think about the Angelo unless you 117 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: like hearing his music or like you you know, he 118 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: happens to be working on a new project. So when 119 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: you know, I forgot who hit the chat and it 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: was like the Angelo passed. I was like I read that. 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: I was like, whoa you let me? Just reading that 122 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: was just like that's somebody he wasn't expecting to just 123 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: you know, reads passed away. But after privately, you know, 124 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: battling the illness and things like that, you know, the 125 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: family decided to keep that, you know, because he was again, 126 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: he was not Dangelo, wasn't somebody that was ever really 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: in the headlines. There wasn't nothing negative. 128 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: You know. 129 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: It was just like if it wasn't about music, if 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: he wasn't performing, you didn't know what D'Angelo was doing. 131 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: And I think that's the way he wanted it. That's 132 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: the way he you know, saw of his mystique and 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: his aura was was strictly about the music and his talent. 134 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: But so young, you know, to to to pass away 135 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: at fifty one, and his talent, man, you know, obviously 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: had to live on. 137 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: His music lives on. But yeah, di'angelo was was one 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: of the greats. 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: You know. 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: For him to no longer be with us, you know, 141 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: so soon, it's just like it's just kind of like, 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: you know, put you in a fag because you can't 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: really like damn like that fast so soon, like, but 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: you know, one of the greatest. Remember listening to you know, 145 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: Lady and Brown Sugar being in high school like he 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: was just a soundtrack. If you was like, had a 147 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: crush on a girl, you had to play D'Angelo. You 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: had to, like, you know, if it was a talent show, 149 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: it was like, who's gonna see D'Angelo? Like, now everybody came, 150 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: who's gonna try to do that? Everybody D'Angelo? Like he 151 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: was just the coolest of the cool man. So prais 152 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: and condolence is his family left an incredible legacy, you know, 153 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: just somebody just had so much musical integrity and so 154 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: much style and and and did it his way. So yeah, man, 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: it's it's a terrible loss for the coaching and for music. 156 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: But you know, his work is here, His his music 157 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: is here, the people that he influences here, the artists 158 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: that he worked would still here. So you know, his 159 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: music and his art lives onf for sure. 160 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: When I was working for Kevin Lyles, he was working 162 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: with Dangelo, I guess you could say manager Dangelo at 163 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: that time for the Black Messiah album and Dangel that 164 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: you know obviously never came to the office, never was like, 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: you know, part of any meetings or anything. But when 166 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: I say anytime keV would play like a song from 167 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: that album before it came out, Like we would all 168 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: just gather around like the media room door like children 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: and just put our fucking ear to the side to 170 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: try to hear that shit. So like seeing that project 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: from an office standpoint completely come together was like just 172 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: an honor to be next to somebody that was working 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: with Dangelo. Like I had nothing whatsoever to do. I 174 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: was just in the office, But that was like one 175 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: of the coolest times ever of like damn listening to 176 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: a D'Angelo project right now, like nobody's heard, but yeah, 177 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: sit with me and Dixon were in Electric Lady, which 178 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: is a very famous studio in New York City where 179 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: you know Dangel recorded most of his work, So aquariums 180 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: from Fuck Eric Badoo, everyone you know recorded out of there. 181 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: We like didn't work for like an hour and a 182 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: half because we were just sitting there talk like like 183 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: Dangelo sat right here. Yeah, Like we shouldn't be allowed it. 184 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: It's fu like why are we why are we working 185 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: in here? This is nuts, Like that's the same. 186 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Mooth, incredible talent man. 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, rest in peace again. I don't know if 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: you have any Dangel memories, not like personal will. 189 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: Just like you guys covered everything. 190 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: He's a good job. 191 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did see, And I'm not sure if this 192 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: was a rumor confirmed that prior to his death he 193 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: was working on did it say like six different projects 194 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: or something he was working on that wouldn't surprise me, 195 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 4: So I mean hopefully that means, you know, we're still 196 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 4: going to get D'Angelo music that he would want out, 197 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: not just some ship that a label threw together with 198 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: fucking old dat tapes. But he was probably battling pancreatic cancer, 199 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: so it wouldn't surprise me if he was planning. 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: These projects for after his death. 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: So you know, I hope we get to at least 202 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: here though sometimes so absolutely, but yeah, I don't really 203 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: know how to turn turn them round Benzeno. This was 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: just a perfect example of sometimes. 205 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: The angeloa Benzinos, because I know, I know that's absolutely crazy. 206 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: It's a perfect example of of a like sometimes honoring 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: legends that have passed, like you should just sit out. 208 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: Sometimes we don't need to know what, like what influences 209 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: you had from him after his death, because I do 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: believe that Benzino was influenced by Dangelo, all of us were. 211 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: But I didn't need to see like exactly how Benzino 212 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: was influenced. 213 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 6: Okay, I cannot Okay, no. 214 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't think. 215 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't think Benzino was influenced by D'Angelo about Benzino's music, 216 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: nothing that I think. This is just what call it. 217 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: This is cloud chasing. I think that's exactly what this is. 218 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: But he was doing it, yeah, he was. Come on, 219 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: he was giving Dangelo his flowers before. 220 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah. He didn't just do that but Angelo died. 221 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: That would be fucking nuice. But oh he didn't just 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: do this. No, it's still nice. So he had this 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: in the vault. Matter of fact, I. 224 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 4: Think it's more disrespectful of doing this when D'Angelo is 225 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: alive so he can see it. Why why he's just 226 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: gonna have to put that ship somewhere on the screen. 227 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: It's it's the untitled video when Dangelo is is shirtless 228 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: with that shadow. But Benzino took that and put his 229 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: own spin on it. Oh, this with him being shirtless, 230 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: this is how does it feel? 231 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Yes? 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, listen, man, I mean I stayed correct. 233 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: This was before this video was out, before D'Angelo passed, Yes, 234 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: and I stayed correct and when maybe Benzino was influenced 235 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: by No. 236 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 4: He was suggesting, like, you know, he posted it when 237 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: Benzino passed, like, hey, I've been influenced in my career 238 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: by him. 239 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Here's an example of how how it made him feel. Okay, 240 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: and I saw it. 241 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: I saw Dangelo's son post something of you know, it's 242 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: been a tough year. Thank you guys for having me 243 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: in your thoughts and prayers. I'll definitely need it, Like 244 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: keep keep telling me that. Do you think this made 245 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: him feel any better? Like so some things, some tributes 246 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: should just be like kept in the time. I'm sure 247 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: he read Beyonce's post and was like, oh man, that's 248 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: that's really cool to know that my pops, you know, 249 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: influenced one of the biggest pop stars ever. Like those 250 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: types of things I think help in grief and death. 251 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: If I saw this, like that's gonna that's gonna delay 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: like funeral. 253 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: Plans, I'm gonna be so angry. 254 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 6: I honestly, it probably gave him a laugh. It probably 255 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: gave him like like. 256 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: Or him and his dad may have laughed at that 257 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 4: together before. That could have been a good memory. 258 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like if that was out before his passion 259 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: then Yeah, I'm pretty sure D'Angelo laughed at that. 260 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 261 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. I also thought it's also crazy to think that 262 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: James got the last recorded D'Angelo record that was put 263 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: out font James Samuel for the soundtrack for the Book 264 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: of Clarence. 265 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: It was the Jason Angelo record. 266 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: I Want You For Yeah, so that's that was the 267 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: last one that was put out while he was alive, 268 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: which is crazy to think. But now now that would 269 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: make sense though, James working with Dan, oh, absolutely that 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 3: makes it. 271 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure they had been talking about that for 272 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: quite some time, even before that, because I think James 273 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: even went in interviews and like, Hope didn't even know 274 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: about it, and he just was sending him snippets and 275 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: I think he said Hove was on the treadmill sending 276 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: him bars while he was running on the treadmill because 277 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: he had this d. 278 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Angelo record, Like, yeah, I'll write for Dan. You got 279 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: a d Angelo record? Yeah, I'll get on that for sure. 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: That's such a that's such a cool way for hip 281 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: hop to age, like a guy in his fifties on 282 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: a treadmill writing raps to a d' angelo record. 283 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: Yea for a movie called Book of Clarence. 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: And then sending them his voice notes to like someone's iPhone. 285 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: That absolutely, But yeah, I wish you guys wanted to 286 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: shame me so much when I thought Dangelo was down 287 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: the hall for me those months ago. 288 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, you kept when you 289 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: kept conveniently having to walk to the bathroom. Yeah, in 290 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: the Dungeon net flux. Yeah, but I talked to that. 291 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: But then when you told us that, I understood it, though, 292 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: like I got it. Yeah, I was like, no, listen, 293 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: that's that's Dangelo. 294 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: I get it. 295 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: But it's like, there's a way to go about that still, 296 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: But I understood it's D'Angelo. Bro as a musician, as anybody, 297 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: a producer, as an artist, if you have the opportunity 298 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: to be in the same rooms, especially a studio, and 299 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: just talk to DiAngelo and pick his brain about music, 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you definitely have to take that opportunity whenever 301 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: you can, because you don't know when you'll have that opportunity. 302 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: Again, and because he had probably the most unique voice 303 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: in R and B history, and be outside of like 304 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: Marvin Gay, you know, when you're walking past a studio 305 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: and like, all right, that's d Angelo and I've never 306 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: heard that song, but what the fuck is going on 307 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: in there? 308 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 309 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, Benzino, I guess we all we all grieve. 310 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: Different we do, that is very true. Or we do 311 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: grieve differently. 312 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Big l and the Massil album we talked about 313 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: last episode, but they put out the first single with 314 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: Nads you Ain't Got a Chance with a visual too 315 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: that I. 316 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Thought was really cool, just going through Old Harlem and 317 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: the Old Queens. 318 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: First record is Fire out the Gate Massive Field again, yeah, 319 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: Nads on the first single. 320 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: What is Massive Piel doing in twenty twenty five? 321 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Man? 322 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: And we're getting the more nods and premotion? 323 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 324 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: Like nah, sat back and was like all right, because 325 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: because Berg did say, you know the question he asked 326 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: and I've been thinking about that since last night. Was 327 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: like under thirty five, no legacy, Yeah, acts? Who are 328 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: the rap? Who are the guys? Who are the top five? 329 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: And I'm that ship, like I cannot believe I cannot 330 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: name I could name one. 331 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: Well, I mean That's where I'm kind of mad. We 332 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: were rights however many years ago when we were like, yo, 333 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: do you think there's gonna be another Big three? Another 334 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: rap supers? Like I can't see it. 335 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: I can see when we have in big one, like 336 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: we was leaving fifty Hole Kanye Wayne, like we could see. 337 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was like six people that were candidates in 338 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: the beginning. Of course it switched and we got to 339 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 4: a three, but we were all looking at five to six. 340 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: Ship maybe even said like Wiz could have been that, 341 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: I can't really see one right now. 342 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, And you know, I think, but we're haters. 343 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 6: I was gonna say they're gonna kick y'all ass ball 344 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 6: and not talk about Playbo. 345 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: Cardi and Young Boy and White play Boy Cardi. 346 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 6: Listen, hey, I'm not talking about about what we I'm 347 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 6: talking about. You're talking about rap superstars and let people. 348 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: They were Cardi's not a rapper to me, No, he's 349 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: a He's like a noise okay, NBA. 350 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: Young Boy we brought we brought him up. 351 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we brought Kodak up as well with well, how 352 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: old is Playboy Cardi? 353 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: Thirty? 354 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: So even there, like I think what Berg was asking 355 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: was like even younger than Cardi, I know. But even 356 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: when we brought up like Travis, I agree with He's 357 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: like I already see Travis is already getting to the 358 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: legendary ship like. 359 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't not a rapper that too, So I put 360 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: I put Playboy in that same Travis Aaric rock star. 361 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know what I mean. 362 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: It's it's not when I say I'm talking nas Jay Wayne. 363 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like that type of those 364 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: guys that rap like where where is it? 365 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: But but that's but that's what that young boy because 366 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 6: you can't. 367 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he but he even said he was like 368 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: he feels like young boy is more already like in 369 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: his own legacy kind of thing already because he's been lit. 370 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: Like that's yes, it is not new for you, young 371 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: boy just catching on to it like been at his 372 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: own you know what I'm saying. 373 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: Looking for people after young like that's like rap. 374 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, look take young boy, take young Boy. 375 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 5: I can't. 376 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: I was like, but what I'm saying even if you 377 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 3: say yeah, young boy, okay, who else? Then what after that? 378 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: I said, Yeat? But got laughed at. 379 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I've seen footage of Yeat concerts. 380 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: Like he has a crazy fan base. I'm not saying 381 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: he don't have a fan base. I'm talking about it. 382 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: Oh, he's an awful rapper, don't get me wrong, Like 383 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: he makes terrible music in my opinion, clearly that doesn't 384 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: matter because he's selling out more tickets than I could 385 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: ever dream of selling. 386 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to disrespect him in that way. 387 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: That's why I brought I didn't bring him up ironically 388 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 4: like that would be considered rap now and he is 389 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: dominating as far as streams and hard ticket sales like 390 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: he is. 391 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: Shit. 392 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 4: I think the biggest record on the last Drake project 393 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: was the one with E outside of first person Shooter, 394 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: rod Wave. 395 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: Not a rapper, singer. 396 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: I give him his credit, Like he's definitely dominating the 397 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 4: younger generation, but would you consider him a rapper? 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't consider Rod Wave rapper? Okay, yeah, rap. 399 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: He's almost like exclusively singing to me. Maybe he gets 400 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 4: a little twelve off every now and then. 401 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. 402 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: But Dojah Cat is only twenty nine. 403 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: He brought up Doja No, Well he was talking about 404 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: like mail on the mail side. 405 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, no. 406 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: Who Roddy Rich. I like Roddy Rich a lot, and 407 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: he had. 408 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: Now we're just going see we just doing it now, 409 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: we just googled. 410 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Now, we just google rappers and we just named a name. 411 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: No, don't do that, because Roddy a few years ago 412 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: it did look like the same way. Maybe we were 413 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: looking at Sean wiz Wile a cole like Roddy had 414 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: that moment for a year was like, oh, he could 415 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: be if he keeps this pace up, he could be that. 416 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: But then he put out the album that he even 417 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 4: admitted fucking stunk, and it definitely like redirected his career 418 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: and any type of steam that he had, and he 419 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: just pushed his album back for like the seventeenth time. 420 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: I guess little Baby would probably be the one most 421 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: people would probably it would be like a little Baby. 422 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: Because all y'all said we were moving into the little 423 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 4: Baby era and I'm still waiting for the moving company. 424 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like he would be one of the 425 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: guys that people would name. It would be a little baby. 426 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: Maybe even throw Meek in it. Well, no, howl is 427 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: me me? 428 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: Is he's older than me? 429 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: Older? 430 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 431 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Ok? 432 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah now old but yeah? 433 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: But so it will be like the little Baby. It 434 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: would be guys like Gunna Gunn is definitely there, but 435 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: it's gonna might be older is he? But is he 436 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: wrapped the gun is older than thirty five. 437 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 5: I said, he might be. I'm not sure. I'll check. 438 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: Wait, he's thirty two, Okay. 439 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you can't be wearing like them 440 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 4: them leather rain boots after thirty five, Like that's that's 441 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: the that's a young man's sport. 442 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: Kanye do it Kanye like he's Peter Pan. I don't 443 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: even know that. 444 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means all. 445 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about his innery, creative child. Oh man. 446 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was a you know, that was a 447 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: great you know, like central Sir definitely stumped me with 448 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: that one. 449 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I never really saying that. 450 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah you. 451 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: Oh no, what we young boy we're saying is there 452 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: we're trying to anyone else we. 453 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: Named young boy, but he said name five. So I said, okay, 454 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: young boy, cool, forgive me four more. Like we're sitting here, 455 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: we don't even we just like, yeah, and that's crazy 456 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: to say that. We can't even do that in rap, 457 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: Like you can't name five of the guys under thirty 458 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: five that are like. 459 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: The next legends, Like that's scary. That is scary. 460 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: Jack Jack Carlow Jack Carlow is not gonna be a legend. 461 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Well, we're saying the next guy. Wait, and that's just 462 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: say about somebody. 463 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: He ain't gonna be. 464 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: Had like you might have, but you might have an 465 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: incredible next three year round he might. 466 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I apologize, right, I'm just saying it doesn't 467 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 6: appear to be on that trajectory for him. 468 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: I do. 469 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: I want the best for you. Got diamond records though, 470 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: like he got it, he has successful. 471 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: A lot of people have divond. 472 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 6: We ain't gonna say a lot a lot of people 473 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 6: have diamond records that have not had a successful full career, 474 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 6: but they have a diamond record. 475 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 4: No hold on how much I think you're thinking that 476 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: because he had so much output for like three years 477 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: and took a break. Just because you're taking a break 478 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: doesn't mean he's not doesn't have the same steam. Like 479 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: if he comes out with another single, which he's clearly 480 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: capable of, even the I'm Vanilla Baby shit popped right 481 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: after all those other fucking diamond records, he's capable of 482 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: like continuing that trajectory. 483 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't like, you know, I don't like that, 484 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: And I think Jack is talented, but I don't like 485 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: that because you're naming records that are like samples and 486 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: flips of big records. It's like that's a cheat code 487 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: to me, Like give me your original sound, your original 488 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: record that's a smash, that's a fucking hit, a classic 489 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: record with no sample, Like give me that, Like when 490 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: you say I'm vanilla like that, what was the name? 491 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: What's the name of that recorde? Loving on great record? 492 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: But we know that we know that song already, Like 493 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: that's already a hit record that we've heard years ago. 494 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: Don't do that though, cause okay uh Kanye and Loupe 495 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: Fiasco Touched the Sky coming into his second album, Like 496 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: that was not even a sample flip, It was just 497 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: the fucking song. 498 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, But before that, Kanye had already had his own sounds, 499 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: his own songs that didn't have like it may be 500 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: samples in it, but not as heavy as the jack 501 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: hap that was just that wasn't was that even. 502 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: I think older like a cover I think to older people, 503 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: which I've talked about before, like when my my pots 504 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: was never like against rapper was like a rap hater, 505 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: but like a lot of the songs that I would 506 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 4: listen to he'd be like, I know this fucking the 507 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: real song. 508 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: Like hip hop is based off the sense of the break. 509 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't think we. 510 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: Should just put the rules for Jack there when all 511 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: of our favorite rappers ever have gotten hit records with 512 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: very very noticeable sam. 513 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: But noteble, so name another jack record? Well, pause the 514 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: jack Man album First Class? Is that not another cover? 515 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: No? 516 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: His three biggest singles are for sure like big. 517 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like I'm just I'm just saying 518 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: that about Jack. Like I get it, he's talented and 519 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: he has big records, but like Jack, got to give 520 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: me Jack though, like, not the flip of a song 521 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: that was already huge years ago, he bringing it back, 522 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 3: putting his own spin on it. 523 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: I get that. 524 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: That's part of hip hop, sampling and taking. You know, 525 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: the break beat is the sample. But it's like, we 526 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: need your sound, we need your song, we need your record, 527 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: original record, like give us yours, not a flip on 528 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: something else. 529 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: I mean, well, that's why I kind of appreciated jack Man, 530 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: which we you just have to part. 531 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I just wish he would call something else. 532 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he went with the pop rap with come 533 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: Home the Kids, Miss You did well, a bunch of singles. 534 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: Churchill Downs was fucking one of the best records of 535 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: that year too, without a crazy sample. Of course, you 536 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: have one of the better Drake features in the last decade. 537 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: But that'll help sometimes. 538 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: But he went helps a little bit and just to 539 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: shoot the video with him at the Kentucky Dirt I mean. 540 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 4: Who directed that was one of the most fire videos 541 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: I've seen quite some time. That shit was incredible. Who 542 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: Jack got shooting on for that? 543 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: No? 544 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's one of those like, well. 545 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: That Drake versus that's what it's like, drag versus insane. 546 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: I would like, you're you're ecstatic when that verse comes 547 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: back as an artist, like Drake sent you that, but 548 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: it's like, god, damn my nigga, Like, you whooped my 549 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: ass on this record, Like yeah, but you're not mad 550 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: because you know what it's gonna do, and you're coming out. 551 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: To Kentucky to do the video with my mom. I'm 552 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: not gonna play. But if I'm standing next to each 553 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: other for the first time, like Jesus Christ, you whooped 554 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: my ass. 555 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, we get to shoot in slow mo horses at 556 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: the Kentucky Derby on a red camera like and even that. 557 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: Like, I remember when jay Z was on. 558 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: Wan Epstein and they had brought up that NAS line 559 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: of uh and Eminem killed you on your own shit, 560 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: j was like, well, I don't believe that, but okay, 561 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: did I should? I want a bad m verse for 562 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: my album? Right, It's like, yeah, of course, I'd like 563 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 4: you to fucking give me your best feature verse ever. 564 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: But jack Man was not any of the Like he 565 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: was flipping soul samples and like Chipmunk and shit. 566 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: But again, it felt more like. 567 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: A mixed tape and it didn't have the same commercial success, 568 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 4: but it didn't feel like that was even his approach. Yeah, 569 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: but he did that on his own after Without Yeah, 570 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: that his album. 571 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 3: I thought that year with Churchill downs on Hurry Up, 572 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: Come Home with Kids. 573 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: Micheon on Kids, great project. I like that project. 574 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: But even again, it's like a guy that I would 575 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: at one point, and Rory knows how I feel about Kodak, 576 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: I would have had him in that conversation. 577 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: He's had his troubles, jail. 578 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: You know, drugs, things like that, you know, just the 579 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: real life issues that kind of got in the way 580 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: of some of his trajectory. But I think Kodak to me, 581 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: Kodak Black is better than all of these guys as 582 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: far as rapping that that we're talking about, so you know, 583 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: but you know, things get in the way that that. 584 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: And to be a successful artist, and you know, you 585 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: could have tested this world, it takes more than just talent. 586 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: So many things have to align, Like. 587 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: When you look at the greats, everything has to align, 588 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: like how are they in their personal life? Like how 589 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 3: serious are they about their crap? How focused are they? 590 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: How dedicated are they to their talent. A lot of 591 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: the times you see gods with a lot of talent, 592 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: but their personal lives the thing, you know, their vices 593 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: and things like that getting the way and you know 594 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: it kind of interferes with their success. But to me, 595 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: Kodak Black is you know, he's his talent level is insane. Yeah, 596 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: And you go back to listen to a lot of 597 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 3: his early shit, and I found out because you know, 598 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: I was kind of I wasn't late to Kodak, but 599 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: I was later than some people, like most people were, 600 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: and listening to a lot of his shit when I 601 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: started finding out he was eighteen nineteen doing those type 602 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: of records, no features versus and hooks and melodies eighteen 603 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: nineteen years old. 604 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: That's not you don't see that much in rap. 605 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, where a dude is doing his entire project no 606 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: features or a lot of his biggest records, no features. 607 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: He's doing the verses and the hooks, coming up with 608 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: the melodies. He's writing all his own shit. The thing, 609 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: his content, the shit he was saying in his balls, 610 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm like being eighteen nineteen talking about the shit Kodak 611 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: was talking about his talent levels insane. 612 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: Again. Vice is getting the. 613 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 3: Way of that a lot with a lot of these 614 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: young guys, and unfortunately that's what the story is for Kodak, 615 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: his vices that get in the way of his talent. 616 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: But Kodak Black's talent level is I think he's better 617 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: than ninety five percent of these guys we just named. 618 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, answer your point too. 619 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: The superstar thing, Like, there's also the intangibles, like you 620 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: can check every single box, but it's gonna sound corny 621 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: sometimes the universe and timing just has to exist. Like 622 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: things that you can't control whatsoever need to fucking time up. Yeah, 623 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: because I've seen people check every box and I'm like, 624 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: how the fuck did this not Work's the timing of 625 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: where music was, what was going on. You just not 626 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: catch what happened one month of one year. It can 627 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: change literally everything as. 628 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Far as what a rollout is. 629 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 630 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: I still think baby Team's gonna come back and say 631 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: hip hop all right, do we have voicemails? 632 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, your voicemails. 633 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's what you want to take you. 634 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought Keem had a potential on the 635 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: first joint. I didn't think it was like a classic, 636 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: but I didn't think it was bad. It showed potential. 637 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: I just think you need to have like some more 638 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: output with just some potential. Like if you put out 639 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: like a classic out the gate, like a Channel Orange, yeah, 640 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: you're giving some grace for some years to kick it, 641 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: but not Team Keem mass the Whoomusico. 642 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 643 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, in order to be in the conversation, you 644 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: have to have music out. 645 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: But if you talk to the internet and had the 646 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: same conversation, King's name would be brought up as far as. 647 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Like who people think the next guys would be? 648 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: He would. 649 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: I'm not saying you have to agree, but King's name 650 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: comes up often where I'm like one project. 651 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: I mean I love when people tell me like name 652 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: guys like yeah and not he because then the first 653 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: thing I do is like, all right, send me let 654 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: me hear it, like send me his ship, let me go. 655 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I'm not always in tune with a 656 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: lot of these dudes that people think it's dope, and 657 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: I listen and I'm just like, all right, let me 658 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: take off my illmatic ears. Oh for sure, let me 659 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: take off, let me take off my reasonable doubt is, 660 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: let me take off my ready to die do that 661 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: out the gate. Yeah, Like, let me let me take 662 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: these ears off. Let me just put some ear muffs 663 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: on it. Yeah, and just listen to this and see 664 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: what these guys are doing. But yeah, man, I don't know. Man, 665 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: It's I'm kind of I'm kind of nervous for the 666 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: future of rap and hip hop. I'm gonna be honest, 667 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Like after Berg said that yesterday, I got to think 668 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: it last night, and I'm just like, damn, Like. 669 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: It's nobody knows what to do, Like, no one knows 670 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 6: where to take hip hop to evolve it. 671 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 5: It's not charting the way it once used to. 672 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 6: It's not as it's still obviously still the culture, but 673 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 6: it's not as commercial as it once was. 674 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: No one knows where to take it next. 675 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: Like look at for example, this year the albums in 676 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: the the artist were raving about is guys that's been 677 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: in it thirty plus years. The clips mob d fucking 678 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: nah waiting on nas joints. Like we talked about guys 679 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: that have. 680 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: I should Gibbs got twelve thirteen gigs, like these are 681 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: the guys that has over fifteen years. 682 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: Then these are. 683 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: Guys that have been almost twenty. Yeah, it's like these 684 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: are the elder the elder statesmen. These are guys that 685 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: have been doing it so when they're still currently putting 686 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: out the best music and the best albums and rapping 687 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: and hip hop, I mean that that says a lot. 688 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: Even Chances a veteran at this point, Chance is. 689 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: A veteran, So you can't even put him in that 690 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: under thirty because how old a Chance. 691 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: Uh, probably around probably thirty four. Maybe it's like a 692 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: year younger than thirty two. 693 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Chances thirty two, Oh much of it than I thought. 694 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: So put Chance in that cad to put him in 695 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: that conversation. 696 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: Jied for sure. He had one of the best rap albums. 697 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: This year. 698 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Same with Jed. 699 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: I put Jid there as well, but even Jim's been 700 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: around for a while at this point, and. 701 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: Jed is thirty four, so he's like right there on that. 702 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 703 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's kinda wild. 704 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 6: I mean, well, if we're talking, he'll be thirty five 705 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 6: next week, So Jittery thirty five next week. 706 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: So now we can't. 707 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Even really was a great younger. 708 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, his birthday's at Halloween, so he'll be thirty five. 709 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: So it's like you can't even you know. 710 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: People that rap like this and make this type of music, 711 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: it takes longer. 712 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it definitely. It's almost like like not a 713 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: thing anyheah too. 714 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: So this type of shit is like almost where like 715 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: stand up comedy has gotten where it's like guys don't 716 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: really break until they're forty. Yeah, because even like Gibbs 717 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: finally getting his just doing the last few years, but 718 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: like Gibbs is making elite music for fifteen years. Yeah, 719 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: but it's just it's that type of rap has now 720 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: gotten to that place. 721 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: Shit, how was Westside Gun? I will forty forty something? 722 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: I was thinking like thirty eight. 723 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: Done forty three years old? Jesus, Yeah, man. 724 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: And I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I 725 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: think that's great, but it just takes longer with. 726 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: That and it's fun. You're talking about guys from my era. 727 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: It was a different attention to detail, different respect for 728 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: the for the art of it all. It was so 729 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: these are guys that came up having to check certain 730 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: boxes in order to be considered dope, you know what 731 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean. It wasn't like, oh, just get a record 732 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: out of your basement, posting on fucking you know, TikTok 733 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: and it goes viral and now you doing shows next month, 734 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: and it's like, No, these are guys that really put 735 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: in work and grind it for years and traveled and 736 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: had to do things like but it shows because they 737 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: paid attention to detail and have certain skill sets that 738 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: you had. 739 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: To have at one point. Yeah, man, Ice Spice, Bronx legend, 740 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, we love a Shanelli. 741 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all was leaving women out of this conversation. I 742 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 6: guess you're like, no, but we're talking about men. But 743 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 6: like what we're talking about rap because the women been 744 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 6: putting out good talent albums. 745 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 2: But oh no, no, the point ain't running rap, know what? 746 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: Burg how we got into that conversation was because Berg 747 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: was saying, women, you can name the five women out 748 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: the gate without even thinking about it. So then that's 749 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: why he was like, well, what about the guys is 750 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: trash right now? 751 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 752 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: But the women or recent even said the woman. That's 753 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: how we got into that. The women are clearly running 754 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: right yeah. 755 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: And I mean with Ice Pikes drop today like it 756 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: just furthers his point. 757 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: Bronx legend. 758 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 4: You ain't even get the Destiny's Child b Kelly flip. 759 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: You didn't even guess went way over your head. 760 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: That's what's up. You ain't even know the song was 761 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: gonna be called Baddy Baddie? Did you no? 762 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: I didn't you shocked this morning like that? She took 763 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 4: it there? All right, we have a guest coming on. 764 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: Ship. 765 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: We've we've been talking with with this guy for a while, 766 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: trying to figure out when to go on his show 767 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 4: or him to come on our show. Clearly having bag 768 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 4: Fuel on is what sparked the entire thing. 769 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: But Math is our guy. 770 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 4: So when to take a quick commercial break, as per Peage, 771 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: and when we come back, we will. 772 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: Have the Math of interview hit it. 773 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: Peach maul I know you are thinking about upgrading to 774 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: the all new iPhone seventeen Pro. 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Delivery available for 786 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: select devices. Purchase at bootmobile dot com. Terms apply. 787 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 2: A man, we are in start. 788 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 3: We are joined by Well he said it, I didn't 789 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: say it. The best rapper podcasting in the world. 790 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 2: Matt from the field. 791 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 3: Then we had so first of all, we have been 792 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: talking about us coming on your platform, you coming on 793 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: our platform for a while, but in particular we had 794 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: we had bag feeling shout out to our guys back fuel. 795 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Start like that. No, I'm just trying to tell as well. 796 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: He really want to because I'm trying. 797 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying to lead up to how 798 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: the conversation of you calling me and then it's. 799 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Like, no, no, no, please don't say that. I'm I 800 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it to be a pleasant, pleasant surprise. 801 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't say what you said. 802 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: But but in that conversation you called me after, that's. 803 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: Okay, just be telling that. 804 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: You called somebody watching the door down. 805 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: We wanted to do this episode for peace, but I'm 806 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: happy that MAP is finally here so we could talk 807 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 3: our ship. But we were talking about you sending us music, yes, 808 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: some of your music to review and talk about, and 809 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: how you we were jokingly said, don't copyright us once 810 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: we it up on YouTube, and you were saying how 811 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: you don't understand how rappers don't allow people to react 812 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: to their music and post videos. 813 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: Right because okay, as a fan, right, you know, we 814 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: grew up listening to a lot of rappers that are 815 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: still dropping music. Yeah, and it just bewilders me that, like, yo, 816 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five, there's not many platforms that will 817 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: promote your music anymore. Yeah, right, it's not being played 818 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: on radio, like I can't remember it the lot. I 819 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: don't think I've heard anything past King's disease too from 820 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: nas on the radio at. 821 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: All on radio? Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, you know what 822 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean. 823 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: So, and you know, they some of them don't do 824 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: that many interviews, so he ain't doing a lot of interviews, right, 825 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: And lyricism to me is something that needs to continue. 826 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: So if we have like a new audience or audience that 827 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: follows us that maybe like twenty four or eighteen to 828 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: thirty or what, they're not necessarily familiar with their music 829 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: as much as you know, the other people we made interview, 830 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: so to expose it to him, we don't get the 831 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: chance to because we're getting hit with copyrights. So yeah, 832 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: like go drop this project. I wanted to review app 833 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: so as soon as I uploaded the video, Yeah, copyrights, 834 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, why haven't they figured out to 835 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: not you know, allowed to allow it Like when Kendrick 836 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: did that ship. That ship was genius during the battle, 837 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, and he allowed the reactors to share monetization. 838 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: It was genius. 839 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 4: I mean, well, there's two steps to that, because you 840 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 4: can just white label it where people won't get their 841 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 4: video taken down and then the second step, which is 842 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: the Montar ship. But as far as that first step, 843 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: if you're an independent artist, I have no idea why 844 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: you wouldn't white label all of your music. Yeah, the majors, 845 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: that's a way deeper conversation. Like during COVID, remember we 846 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 4: was just doing like G live jam sessions playing music 847 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: and then they shut all that ship down. I was like, 848 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 4: these majors are stepping over a dollar to get a penny, 849 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 4: Like we're promoting music, Like, you're not losing money by 850 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 4: us doing these jam sessions. It's a bunch of people 851 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 4: in here going, oh, I don't even know this song? 852 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 2: What is this? 853 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 4: Just so you could keep a fucking point zero zero 854 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: one penny from IG Live? 855 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: Like it makes no sense. I've never that this should 856 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: be somebody and that's on staff at these labels because 857 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not just majors, like you know some 858 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: of just the distributors. They don't they don't even check 859 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 1: to see like who's doing this ship? Oh this could 860 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: be a million more streams, but what are you doing? 861 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 7: Right? 862 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: It's just crazy. 863 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: So you had because we we we haven't really kicked 864 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 3: it in years but you had to never really kicked it. 865 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: Well, I mean what, we don't really kicked We ain't 866 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: gonna be faked. No, no, no, no no, I'm not saying 867 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: not saying. 868 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: We've never met, never met uncomfortable. 869 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 4: I've never met at a I've tweeted about mass podcasts 870 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 4: since the inception of how much I liked it. 871 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: We never I think we DMed each other. 872 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Like me for a second, I remember that. 873 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: Oh, please give me the history lesson on this one. 874 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: Both for y'all, both for y'all. 875 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: I can find that tweet none the whole now, Math 876 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 3: talking ship because me and Math go back to. 877 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: Where he was doing total slaughter. 878 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: And we was in that fucking brownstone in Brooklyn, and 879 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: you was battling all the niggas for. 880 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: A bed, me and you. I don't want nobody for 881 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: a bed. To judge, I was. 882 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: One of the few niggas that was really fucking with 883 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 3: you in the house, like yo. You was like yo, 884 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: these niggas in his corny. I was sitting there you 885 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 3: right or wrong? 886 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: First of all, which is legal, because you own bedroom, 887 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: and it. 888 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: Was why they give your bedroom, why they gave your 889 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: own bedroom. 890 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: You was in there trying to bully niggas. You was 891 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: in there trying to bully niggas you wasn't. 892 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: Fucking They gave me my own bedroom yea. It was 893 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: the only one in the house that had his own 894 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 1: bedroom from the rip, So I was good. 895 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 4: And then and then what they did with Rex was 896 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: fucked up. Like episode one that was foul. 897 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 2: On, total slaughter. He had the bad on. He was 898 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: in the basement. I think that was in the quartest. 899 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Rex knew what Tom it was, so he 900 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: came with a verse that he had written and rehearse and. 901 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing. 902 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Pick like that. That show totally depicted battle Rap in 903 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: the wrong way. 904 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: I feel like y'all all felt like that, like going 905 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: what we're doing. 906 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody knew it was even real until the week up. Okay, 907 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 1: we were phone calls like this ship real. Yeah, okay, 908 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: y'all they set the money. We got to be there 909 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: on Monday. Yeah. 910 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 2: It was a cool experience. 911 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, the idea was cool. I just think they maybe 912 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 4: rushed that execution of it. 913 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't a cool idea for battle Rap because it's 914 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: like you put a bunch of battle rappers in the house. 915 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: That's not what we do, bro. 916 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 3: Like you know, they was going on for the whole 917 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: make the making the band energy, trying to like reignite 918 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 3: that whole wave of reality TV and a wash out. 919 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so wash out. If there's gonna be any type 920 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: of drama and battle rap, that's reality. Let that ship 921 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: happen in the streets. That happened for real, you know 922 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. We ain't arguing in the kitchen the pancakes. 923 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 924 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 4: We got a great battle because it was a Kashawan 925 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 4: and who's the battle of it was? It was like bts. 926 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: It wasn't even on the show. There was arguing the 927 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: kids for like thirty minutes, right, but. 928 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: They didn't battle. They popped ship and they battled later. 929 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We got to battle later. 930 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Mac made the money off for that. Yeah. I respected 931 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: the battles that y'all got. H Can I say his name? 932 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: Can I say? 933 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: Sure Joe versus Hollow Trash. I thought I thought it 934 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: was underwhelming from both of them. 935 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't battle holding a mic like this, yo, 936 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: Mike check one too, yo, Yo. You guys to quiet 937 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: down or I'm not gonna rap. I'm gonna walk off this. 938 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: You don't do that. Don't tempt the battle crowd. Yeah, 939 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: I forgot how to do. Not tempt the battle crowd. 940 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: If you say, y'all, don't be quiet, I'm not spending 941 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,280 Speaker 1: these wraps. 942 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: Be some crazy ship that was that Daylight that did 943 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: some crazy ship at that one. 944 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he came out in a costume. Oh there's a 945 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: whole story behind that. I actually saved you saved that 946 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: event from being shut down early for real. Yeah, because 947 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: I think I battled disaster the week before and all 948 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: that ship went down with you know, me out there 949 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: thumping with six niggas, and the week after they like 950 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be in New York for total slaughter. So 951 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people that was around me was not 952 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: happy with what happened, you know what I mean. So 953 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: despite me saying chill, chill, I ain't gonna say I said, 954 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: I ain't say chill. I just didn't say nothing. Right 955 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: when Daylight we went up there to battle, and the 956 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: spawn outfit that he was supposed to light hisself on fire, 957 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: his hand shot out their hands arm. He's recovering from state. 958 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: Shout out my man hands he's recovering from stage four cancer. 959 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: Hands saw Daylight's homeboy and said, yo, what happened in Cali? 960 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: And the nigga was like, yo, I had nothing to 961 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: do with that, and he ran through the back door. 962 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: He had the lighter fluid and the light. So Daylight 963 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: had to improvise and like rip some of his clothes 964 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: off and just fall on the floor. But he was 965 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna light himself on fire. Bro, I should have let 966 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: him do it. We should have let him do it. 967 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. If I think he saved a lot 968 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: of people's lives, I. 969 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: Shouldn't let him do it? Is crazy. Look at what 970 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: you look at him, yo, Yeah, we should have let 971 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: him do it. Look get back smoky the battle. 972 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 4: Did anyone like all right? He had the lighter fluid? 973 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 4: Was there a fire extinguisher in sight at all? 974 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 975 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: Like, I don't. I just don't understand. 976 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: Back in those days, I don't think he. 977 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: Ain't think that far Daylight didn't think. They talked to 978 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: the pyro expert about that. But what's your what to ask? 979 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: What his why he thinks we didn't like him? We 980 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 3: still never got to that. 981 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: Math talking ship. I'm not talking ship anything. 982 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you. Yeah, I don't like you, Joe. 983 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: I've been waiting on a date for y'all to come 984 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: on the part for seventeen seventeen years. 985 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 3: Bro, Nah, I know you seventeen Yeah, I know you 986 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 3: have not years, bro, No, you have died this nigga talking. 987 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 4: Every time I talked to Mecca, I said, we're ready 988 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 4: when y'all are, And I talked to Mecca pretty often, 989 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 4: and this was back back to Mecca for he was 990 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 4: on the shot, and that's my mass. 991 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 3: You're not a day like, yeah, okay, that's like a 992 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 3: personal friend of his. 993 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mder staying like talking to me would have made 994 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: that happen fair, you know. 995 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: But I mean when I would run into somebody from 996 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 4: the show more often, so I was always like, you 997 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 4: know me, mom, happy to We probably supported it on 998 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 4: social media on our pod. That's why I'm like, man, 999 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 4: we ain't funk with you as crazy. 1000 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: There's no way I blamed y'all for what happened with 1001 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: you know these guys. 1002 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 2: Why you blamed us? 1003 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Because I felt like people saw what y'all did and 1004 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: felt like we could recreate that. 1005 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,479 Speaker 3: Oh that's what they felt like on your platform, right, yeah, 1006 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 3: but it was different with us though, Yeah, totally business 1007 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 3: the business was he didn't see it, Okay, you did, 1008 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, totally different, like y'all situation is 1009 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 3: like y'all started this front, right, Like you know what 1010 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, y'all started together. And no, not only that, 1011 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 3: but just the business side of it was totally different 1012 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 3: as well. 1013 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: Right by the time these guys got on the platform, 1014 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: they was like the third cast. Okay, you know what 1015 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was only there for nine months and 1016 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: the show was already three years old, right, So, but. 1017 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 4: I mean, do you feel like they contributed in that 1018 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 4: time though in a positive way? 1019 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: Definitely. I feel like everybody was to to to the 1020 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: most part, everybody was doing what they were supposed to 1021 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: be doing until they wasn't. And you know that, sometimes 1022 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: shit works out, sometimes it don't work out. For me, 1023 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: I got I got trust issues, you know what I mean. 1024 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: You're talking to somebody that got jumped in high school. 1025 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: And when I went back to take the state tests, 1026 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: I saw my cousin hanging with the niggas that jumped me. 1027 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: Hm hmm. 1028 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: So like and this is still a cousin that I 1029 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: got locked up later on later on for because he 1030 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: got stabbed when we was fighting some some blood niggas 1031 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: over beating up a homeless nigger. I okay, so we 1032 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: saw some blood niggas beating up a homeless nigga. We intervened. 1033 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: My cousin wild on them. So it's on and popping 1034 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: you on Eastern Parkway and Utica. One of these guys 1035 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: tried to stab me. My cousin stepped in a way 1036 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: he took the jug I didn't know until we got 1037 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: back to the crib and he lifted his shirt and 1038 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: I seen the blood pouring out, and every time he 1039 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: took a breath it will bubble up. Now being in this, 1040 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: is this the same cousin that you know back in 1041 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: the days did whatever. I still took my eyes to 1042 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: where them niggas was at by myself with nothing but 1043 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: a bottle. Cops s thought I had a gun and 1044 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: I ran down on a on a whole set and 1045 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: cops popped up phrase dropped the gun. I have a gun. 1046 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: I had a bottle that I broke in a T shirt. 1047 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: So for me, loyalty is something it's different, sis, It's 1048 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: serious for me. And when you start to play with 1049 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: that or you start to do things that I don't understand. 1050 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: Like it takes me to some place where it's like, yo, okay, 1051 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going through this with you because 1052 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: you're not blood, you're not family, you're not you know 1053 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm gonna just clip this man. If you 1054 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: ain't mad enough to explain yourself, That's what it is like. 1055 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: So in that situation, I just felt like niggas was 1056 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: doing some weird shit at the wrong time. 1057 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: But weird in regards to what what do you feel 1058 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: is disloyal? 1059 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: Okay, funk Masterflex issues me a challenge. I'm like, yes, 1060 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: I get to music. I'm surrounded by so called music guys. 1061 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: We go to the studio. Everybody's giving me like opposite 1062 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: advice from what I feel I believe in myself. So 1063 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I like this record. I'm 1064 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna send this record. Sent the record New York City. 1065 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: This is what New York sounds like. I see you, 1066 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: my brother. One of the proudest moments in my life. 1067 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: Might not mean shit other people. 1068 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 2: Right, but yeah, yeah, it's monumental ship. 1069 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: And then after that, a nigga taps me and say, yo, 1070 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: give me five thousand. I could get Clue to play it. 1071 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, who said that? 1072 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,439 Speaker 1: Well? 1073 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 2: Also, that's illegal, so that's a leegend. 1074 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: Okay, then Clue in the club. He don't know nothing 1075 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like strike one okay, okay, strike one 1076 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: got you. You know the show started like like the 1077 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: numbers started picking up crazy. We had a no, I'll 1078 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: say that, a strike three. So I'm like, yo, let's 1079 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: see if we get a situation. Yo, my many know 1080 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: we plugged in at Revolt. It's that the third let's 1081 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: go to lunch. Me sit down, Yo. This is my 1082 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: brother Math and you know this. I'm like, all right, cool, 1083 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: why ain't your brother right? My man Nigga introduced me 1084 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: to Jay Reid. 1085 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 2: If y'all don't know who Jay, that's fucking hilarious. Y'all 1086 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 2: know who j Red is. 1087 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: So Jay Reid sends me what's supposed to be a 1088 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: Revolt contract. Okay, I'm looking at the numbers. I'm like, 1089 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: this shit don't make no sense. Like we're doing better 1090 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: than this right. 1091 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: Now, Like why is what like twenty twenty one? 1092 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, like twenty twenty, no, twenty twenty maybe whatever whatever 1093 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: year they left. It was like two three years ago. Yeah, 1094 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: they've been going like three years now. Crazy anyway, So 1095 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the contract, I'm like, the fuck is this? 1096 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: This shit don't make no sense? Call them like yo. 1097 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 1: But first of all, they tried to manage me. I'm like, yeah, 1098 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: niggas ever manage a podcast before? Never, right, okay, so 1099 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: why y'all trying to man all right? Whatever? And I'm like, Yo, son, 1100 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: this ship, this ship seemed wacky. So shout out to 1101 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: my man, Smitty run the city, Uh Smitty CEO Smitty. 1102 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: I talked to him about it. He was like, Yo, 1103 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to You're trying to get the puff hold on. 1104 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: Get me on the phone. We talked, send me the DM. 1105 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: I got his number. He's on the line. He's like, Yo, Dion, 1106 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: whatever they want, just figure it out to make it happen. 1107 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: So I'm like, il cool, just like yo, M and 1108 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: puff right okay, So Puff flugs me in with Dion. 1109 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: Shout out to Dion, great dude, he gave me some 1110 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: great advice. I didn't listen to it that yet. Don't worry, 1111 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: my nigga. We gonna make it right, right, So I said, Yo, 1112 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: I got a contract from y'all from before, from D 1113 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: D D D. He says, I don't know who the 1114 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: fuck that is. Stop talking to them immediately. 1115 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 3: Puff says this. So I'm like, and it was supposed 1116 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 3: to be a revote contract that you were looking at 1117 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 3: Strike two, Strike two, okay, third strike. 1118 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 4: Sorry to cut you off. Did you speak to them 1119 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: about that after though? Like after this you got that? 1120 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: And it's always, man, I don't know what they doing. Man, 1121 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing, but we'll do the 1122 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: math on that later. So third strike bag Fuel was 1123 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: supposed to and I, yeah, I don't even like talk 1124 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: them about this, but you know, let me explain it. 1125 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: Bag Fuel was a show that they stopped, and I'm like, yo, 1126 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: let's focus on this shit. Me and Homie had a 1127 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 1: falling out and Heineken talk me into bringing them back. 1128 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: Energy was still kind of off. So one day trying 1129 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: to get in contact with them to shoot an episode, 1130 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: because you know how it be sometimes somebody come in 1131 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: town and they'd be like, yo, I got from this 1132 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: time that this time, and you're like, yo, the team, 1133 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: can we get to look can we make this happen? 1134 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 2: Last minute? Audible? 1135 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I'm getting to the point where I'm calling 1136 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: three niggas ain't picking up. I'm like, yo, well we're 1137 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: trying to get that they're not picking up by saying nothing. 1138 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: Then I've seen a clip of Backfield, the show that 1139 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be stopped go up Okahinnick, and I'm like, Yo, 1140 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: this a brand new clip. Yeah it was thatso's idea, Like, 1141 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: all right, so I'm negotiating with Revolt Damn there begging 1142 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: Puff and Dion for more bread so everybody could be 1143 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: situated and y'all doing this. So for me, it's like, 1144 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Yeah, I didn't understand it, and 1145 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: maybe I didn't have the communication skills at the time 1146 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: to like sit down and say, like, I don't understand this, 1147 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 1: explain it to me, okay, But I never got a call. 1148 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: Nobody ever hit me up to say, yo, this is 1149 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: what happened. I just cut times. I cut times because 1150 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: I just felt like, yo, bro, I can't trust this situation. 1151 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you based on the previous things that was happening, 1152 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 3: you finding out that that contract nobody from that side 1153 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 3: I ever even heard of that, and was like, so 1154 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: that was the final show for you right, okay, And. 1155 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: To be honest, like doing homework. We're talking about somebody, 1156 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: somebody almost lost their life doing shit like that. I 1157 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: don't got to say no names, they know who it is. 1158 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: But doing shit like that, you already almost died before 1159 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: he doing right? What he doing make it make sense? 1160 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: So for me, it just it just felt like before 1161 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 1: I lock in with these guys in a contract where 1162 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: I ain't have to deal with I'm gonna just cut okay. 1163 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 3: I mean well, I like the fact that you took 1164 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 3: some accountability and saying maybe your communication, you know, you 1165 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 3: could have done something different, but you were already kind 1166 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 3: of like feeling some way because things were happening, and 1167 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 3: then that this was another move that you kind of 1168 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 3: felt like, oh, y'all are doing funny shit while I'm 1169 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: over here trying to make sure we're all good. So 1170 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 3: let me just before we lock in the contract and 1171 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 3: then now we contractually have to be around each other, 1172 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 3: have to do the show together, let me just cut 1173 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 3: tas okay, gut tasu. But w is mech falling in 1174 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 3: all of that? He was here, he kind of felt 1175 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: like he was like yo, he showed it one day. 1176 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 3: The lights was off in the shop. He didn't know 1177 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 3: what was going on. He was like, yo, I'll just 1178 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 3: show up whenever they told me to show up. Like 1179 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 3: Mech's stance was really like, y'all was just there to work. 1180 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 3: I didn't really know nothing about the business side of it. 1181 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 3: Whenever Math would say, yo, pull up, pull up, I'll pull. 1182 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 2: Up, he said, what the public knows is what he knew. 1183 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 1184 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: I kind of rather not speak on Mecca because we 1185 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: haven't spoken in life nine months. 1186 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: But why not why you just reach out and just 1187 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 2: have a conversation. 1188 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: It's not it's not by my doing. Okay, you did so, 1189 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: and again for me, just certain signs like I come 1190 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: from a lifestyle with hanging around, hanging around people that 1191 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: hang around. Other people come in your life absolutely so 1192 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: when I see certain things, like certain engagements, it just 1193 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: it takes me back to times where I'm like, I 1194 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: trusted this nigga and I walked in. Niggas set me 1195 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: up right, you know what I mean? And maybe that's 1196 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: something I need to work on, because like this ain't 1197 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: the streets. It's just seems yeah. 1198 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: But but but some of the same from where we're from. 1199 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 3: No Math, that's called trauma, is right, It's called trauma. 1200 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: And you still have a lot of trauma. You're still 1201 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 3: holding in a lot of trauma from you know, growing 1202 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 3: up in a certain environment, going through certain things, which 1203 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: is you know, unfortunately. 1204 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: A part of a lot of our lives. 1205 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 3: But like you said, this is something now, this is business, 1206 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 3: and this is you know, you have to communicate differently. 1207 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: You have to handle conflict or what seems to be 1208 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 3: conflict differently. 1209 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: But that not just you. 1210 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 3: Everybody everybody involved has to handle things differently and has 1211 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 3: to treat things like business. But certain things that you're saying, 1212 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 3: I totally understand now that are hearing this story. I 1213 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 3: understand where you're coming from now, Like, okay, you were 1214 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 3: looking at things and keeping certain moves and getting information 1215 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 3: from another side where it wasn't adding up to the 1216 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 3: information that people that are directly next to you are 1217 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 3: giving you, right, and now you're like, wait, hold up, 1218 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: that's not what y'all just told me. Like now it's 1219 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: like funny shit happening. They don't revolt, never even heard 1220 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 3: of this thing. 1221 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: But who's taking accountability for this? Right? Am I supposed 1222 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: to forget that this happened? Yeah? You know what I mean. 1223 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 4: I mean, if if Mex hits you tomorrow, would that 1224 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 4: be a conversation you would have at this point? 1225 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've been I've reached out, but you know, 1226 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: everybody has their own trauma. That's what I'm realizing. So 1227 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: whatever his reasons for not speaking to me are, okay, 1228 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: all right? Cool? If I reach out and you choose 1229 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: like it's not time for you yet, all right, it's 1230 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: not to respected. Yeah, you know what I mean. But 1231 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: for me, I just need people to understand how how 1232 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: my mind works and how I interpret certain moves, and 1233 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: it's like how it affects me. Like I feel like 1234 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: you look at somebody like fifty cents, loyalty for him 1235 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: must be a really serious thing, because at some point 1236 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: in met life to death, I kind of see things 1237 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: the same way, and I realized, like throughout the years, 1238 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I've been moving like that, Like even in battle rap, 1239 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: you're doing what you hanging with? 1240 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 5: Who? 1241 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Now? FU fuck with them niggas, you know what I mean. 1242 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: So you know, if niggas is watching this, I just 1243 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: hope they understand that side of me. Did know what 1244 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying? 1245 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I get it, and you know, you're 1246 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 3: breaking it down like that. It definitely gives me some 1247 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 3: clarity on the whole situation and talking to you know, 1248 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 3: bag Fuel, like hearing that side of it and then 1249 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 3: now here on. 1250 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Your side, like I get it. 1251 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 3: It does seem like it literally was miscommunication based off 1252 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 3: of personal feelings and trauma that causes you to kind 1253 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 3: of like isolate and be like, I'm cutting that off. 1254 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm not dealing with that. 1255 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going down that road because I know where 1256 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 3: that could lead if it's funny shit happening, and I 1257 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 3: don't want it to go there, right, so you just 1258 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 3: rather just fuck it. 1259 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with nobody. This shit is weird. Yeah, 1260 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: you're doing weird shit. You're doing sneaky shit, and you 1261 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: can't get with you. No. I put it on the table, bro. 1262 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: If you feel this way, you know what I'm saying, 1263 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Let's be men about it. Let's be men about it. 1264 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: If it's the money, asked me for a raise that 1265 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: never happened, right, that's never happened. How's it the money? 1266 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: It's not the money? Yeah? Yeah. I sat across from 1267 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: him at Angela Yeeze and I was like, yo, y'all 1268 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: said something about the money, And the first thing that 1269 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: came out was it was never about the money. I 1270 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: thought we was friends. If we friends, then what's up 1271 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: with this? Right? Right? Yeah, that's not friendly, you know 1272 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1273 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm not gonna lie. You was definitely you know, 1274 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 3: when you started your podcast, you know, based off of 1275 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 3: just your your history and battle Rap, for you to 1276 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: have the success that you had in podcasting, it was 1277 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 3: dope to see because I'm like, you know, Math, you 1278 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 3: had the you had the monica of he's the bully 1279 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 3: of battle Rap, he gonna come in, he might fuck 1280 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 3: the vent up, this, that and the third. But then 1281 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 3: seeing my expert opinion and the way you were on 1282 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 3: in the way you carry yourself, the way you were 1283 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 3: having conversations, the people that you had on it was 1284 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: a whole different side of you that I think that 1285 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 3: Battle Rap fans that. 1286 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Found you got to see. 1287 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 3: They never knew that you had that side of you 1288 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, Math can sit down and not fuck 1289 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 3: the room up and have a healthy conversation. 1290 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think people misunderstood. You know, you 1291 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: see something from Afar, you don't know what it is. 1292 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Close to it now now it's up close and personal. 1293 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Now it's just not me versus your favorite battle rapper. 1294 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: You gotta share against me. Me sitting across from your 1295 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: favorite rapper. We're having a conversation, right, so you get 1296 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: to see a different side. It's not really a bully persona. 1297 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm a protector. One of my earliest memories is it's 1298 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: me trying to fight a dude off my mom's because 1299 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: he was trying to rape her. You do you know 1300 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, up until the last time I 1301 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: even had to get active on anybody to a female 1302 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: out with my girl and some guys touching her inappropriately. 1303 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: M hm, that could go wrong. You know what I'm saying, Oh, 1304 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: you got the podcast that you shouldn't be out on 1305 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the streets doing this. But I'm a protector, and I've 1306 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: always felt like I'm not gonna allow anybody to do nothing. 1307 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow any give give niggas space or 1308 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: make niggas. 1309 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Be do funny ship to harm anybody. I'm right, So. 1310 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you understand it, 1311 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: you understand it, if you don't. 1312 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 3: I listen a lot of this that you do were 1313 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 3: talking about I had no idea, but it's given me 1314 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 3: a lot of clarity on a lot of things. But 1315 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 3: I do like the fact that you recognize because that's 1316 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,439 Speaker 3: a big part of it. 1317 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 2: And when did you start to recognize that that it 1318 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 2: is trump? 1319 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Just looking back because it's a recurrent thing that happened 1320 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: in my life m hm, reoccurring where it'll be me 1321 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: and a group of people, and then it be me 1322 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: by myself, be me and a group of people, then 1323 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: it be me by myself, and just looking back, like 1324 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: how did I judge this? How do other people judge this? Okay, 1325 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 1: they don't understand that I see it this way. The 1326 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: only people that understand that it's niggas that that have 1327 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: been through certain ship, Like now fuck with that? Like 1328 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the street niggas around me is like, nah, fucking niggas 1329 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like yo, but and this I guess this 1330 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: is this is something different, But in a way it's 1331 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: not mm hmm because the same way that I could 1332 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,919 Speaker 1: be open about certain ship, I feel like other people 1333 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: should be too. Right. So if I'm reaching out to you, 1334 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: you've got a problem, let's talk about it, right, I 1335 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't be sitting downstairs at Quad for hours, you not 1336 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 1: answering your phone, you know what I'm saying. Mm hmm. 1337 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, because with somebody like you, now you you start 1338 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 3: to thinking, yeah, it starts going different places like yo' 1339 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 3: what's has up? 1340 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like now you're going to yeah. 1341 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, it's just this year and I 1342 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: gotta think. I gotta thank God. I gotta thank God 1343 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: because that's that's part of it. That's what gives you 1344 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: that that understanding, that that strength, because going through stuff 1345 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: like that, you feel alone, you feel you know what 1346 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, not not necessarily a victim, but you're like, damn, 1347 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I gotta handle this ship or deal with the ship 1348 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: on my own. And this year has been a crazy 1349 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: year for me. Crazy yeah, both personal and business, both 1350 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 1: personal and business like health wise, I find out uh 1351 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: stuff about stuff about my health that requires urgent attention, 1352 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the end of last year, 1353 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: me and my wife, she ain't got a ring on 1354 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: my wife, we lost a child. It was it was 1355 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: just a rough Sorry, the lights going out in the shop. 1356 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: It's just like nigga, stop, It's just like God telling 1357 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: me stop, stop, look around. She just falling apart. Stop. 1358 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: You think about this. You try to keep this going, 1359 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: go take care of that, you know what I mean? 1360 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: So for everybody else, because I haven't been as vocal 1361 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: because I'm not the type to go vent. So I 1362 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: don't trust people, you know what I mean. Even saying 1363 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: this ship right now, it's like I might actually all 1364 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: to delete something later. 1365 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I it's appreciated that you sharing it. 1366 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying, So I don't. I don't 1367 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: trust things on vents. So they look at it like, 1368 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: MA just heat just on his own ship. Everybody deals 1369 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 1: with their own ship. That's why I'm realizing, like whatever 1370 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: they was going through at the time, maybe. 1371 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was that yeah, and that real way, 1372 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 2: that's what we're we're looking at. 1373 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 4: That's also what was kind of rough sometimes with this 1374 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 4: podcast and ship, where you are so open about your life, 1375 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 4: but there's certain ship you I got to keep to myself. 1376 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 4: Y'all may not understand in the comments what the fuck 1377 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 4: I'm going through at the time. Everyone judgmental of every 1378 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 4: move you make. It it's like you don't even know 1379 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 4: what I'm dealing with on the other side in my life. 1380 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 4: Here's another because you think I put everything out on 1381 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 4: a microphone, Nah, I don't the ship that I'm going 1382 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 4: through that I would never fucking tell you about. 1383 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 3: Here's another layer to it all. And I do appreciate you, 1384 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 3: Math for getting so vulnerable with us. But the very 1385 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 3: interesting thing about you, Math is you come from a 1386 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 3: world where. 1387 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 2: They'll weaponize your trauma against you. 1388 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Definitely battle round Definitely they'll hear you say something to 1389 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 1: be like, what is this episode is two rounds? 1390 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 3: This episode is too real? 1391 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,799 Speaker 2: Ship though? This is two. 1392 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Rounds, right, this episode is two rounds. 1393 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 3: But the fact that you're at a place now in 1394 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 3: your life where you like, because. 1395 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Like you just said, we all got our ship. Yeah, 1396 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,679 Speaker 1: we're all going through ship. People watching right now all 1397 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: going somebody is. 1398 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 3: Like yeah, but they and somebody is hearing this and saying, damn, 1399 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 3: mathis this dude that always got this persona too? 1400 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 2: But he he dealing with real ship too. 1401 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 3: He going through real shit too. And you saying that 1402 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 3: that's God cutting the lights off. It's powerful, bro, because 1403 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 3: that's real, Like yo, bro, relaxed, sit down, go handle this. 1404 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 3: This is more important. So I just appreciate you understanding that, 1405 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 3: and and you know to know that you're looking at 1406 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 3: it like that and that perspective is very healthy. You're 1407 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 3: looking at it from a very very healthy point of view, 1408 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 3: a very healthy perspective. 1409 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 2: You have to you have to, man, because listen, this. 1410 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: Is otherwise what do you get? The fuck do you 1411 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: end up? Well? 1412 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Outlets? 1413 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 4: Are you using to process that type of stuff? I'm 1414 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 4: not saying publicly anything like that, Like, how are you 1415 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 4: with everything that's going. 1416 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 2: You've gone through this year? 1417 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: I have, I have. I have some good mentorship. That's good, 1418 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: some good mentorship people that keep me level headed. And 1419 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 1: people don't understand like the episodes I've been doing what 1420 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: they call him bucket at man, uncle Seth. Okay, ye, 1421 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: like when I'm going through and he just listen, man, 1422 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: you're doing it to yourself. Man, right right, why are 1423 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: you even stressing about that? Man? Right? You don't don't 1424 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: forget you. You did this and you did that and 1425 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: sometimes I need to hear that. How long have you 1426 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: had a relationship me and Seth? About twelve years now? Oh? 1427 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 2: Goody somewhere you really know? 1428 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so you know my girl, my kids, you know, 1429 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: thank God for my daughters because your girl dad, Yeah, 1430 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm a girl dad. You don't know that I thought 1431 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: you don't have no sons. Yeah, I got two sons. 1432 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 1433 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I thought you just had a old girl, right, Nah girl, Dad, 1434 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: I love my girls. Man Yeah again. Protective yeah, protector. Yeah, 1435 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: that's worried about that too, Like, yeah, how do they. 1436 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 2: Do everything just being on the internet at old fucking times. 1437 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Uh, Pooty, Poody sees this ship all the daughter. She 1438 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: don't go looking at my ship. 1439 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,759 Speaker 2: Okay. 1440 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Pooty's like she's the researcher my dad. You know what 1441 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Pooty is a protector. Yes, Poody is 1442 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,560 Speaker 1: the second me. He's the second me, you know what 1443 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean. And I realized, like my purpose at this 1444 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: point is making sure they're good, absolutely, and that comes 1445 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: first and foremost, absolutely above everything. Well, first I got 1446 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm good because if I ain't good, right, 1447 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: But once I put myself back in that perspective, it's 1448 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: helped me, Like, Okay, now I can I'm going to 1449 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: the shop and I'm doing episodes. This is the purpose, 1450 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Before It's like I kind 1451 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: of lost that, but I kind of lost that, but 1452 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: I got it back. 1453 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 4: At what point you felt like you lost it? You're 1454 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 4: saying more the passion of even wanting to do the ship. 1455 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've had that talk of not wanting to 1456 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 3: do it, like with yourself. 1457 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 1: I honestly wanted to get to the point where other 1458 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: people go host the show and I just fade into 1459 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: the background because for me, it's years of stuff. But 1460 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: when when we lost the kid, I was telling people, 1461 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I'm not mentally I'm out of here. 1462 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a fucking mask right now, you know what 1463 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:33,759 Speaker 1: I mean? And I don't think they understood the depth 1464 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 1: of it. I think you would have to be a 1465 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: parent understand what that feels like. So yeah, so there's 1466 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot of misunderstandings between these situations. We commended to 1467 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 1: have a reunion episode. But you know, if it's at 1468 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: the point where you know, you go your way, I 1469 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 1: go mind. I know I still have my purpose and 1470 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: whatever your purpose is, I hope you're living in that, 1471 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and I wish it was the best. Just don't use 1472 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: me anymore, right you know? 1473 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1474 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes total sense. That makes understand that. 1475 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 4: I mean, ship with with with all that perspective in 1476 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,799 Speaker 4: that hindsight, what's the direction of the show now, because 1477 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 4: you know you went through different casts, you went through 1478 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 4: everything that you were going through personally. 1479 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 2: I love you got a lot of the battle rap 1480 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 2: guys on. I love that. 1481 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 4: I think that a reoccurring character on everything. 1482 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Zi is one of the greatest personality. It's hilarious. That's 1483 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 2: the part to me, is you and. 1484 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 3: Zip are the perf because y'all, y'all are like Ying 1485 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 3: and Yang, but like y'all are also so similar in 1486 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 3: a lot of ways. 1487 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 2: Is it is just a good dude to like. I 1488 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 2: think Zip is a star. 1489 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 3: I think star Zip is a star, And I think 1490 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 3: that y'all can both help each other in ways that 1491 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 3: y'all not even y'all don't even recognize yet. 1492 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would love to matter f. 1493 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with helping. Yeah, you know 1494 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. He texts me he has to be 1495 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 1: about equipment and all that. Yeah, I'll tell him. Yeah, 1496 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 1: this is a nigga that said that I got pistol 1497 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,640 Speaker 1: punching the face and took my gun and pistol. You 1498 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the fact that y'all was able 1499 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: to sit down, Yeah, that wasn't about that. 1500 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Like I love that part 1501 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 3: of it. Like once I saw y'all sitting down, I 1502 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 3: was like, I love this ship, which I will give 1503 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Math credit. People do do that bully mentality with him. 1504 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 4: He battled those again, like you've done a lot of 1505 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 4: redemption ship that I feel like people overlook. 1506 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: But it's not in that regards, you know, Yeah, what's 1507 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: the best big. 1508 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 2: Of an asshole? I feel like people make you out 1509 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 2: to be something definitely not like. 1510 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 3: When I it's still a different but like some qualities, 1511 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 3: but we forget that a lot of the time. The Internet, 1512 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 3: you know, and YouTube and things and social media comments, 1513 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,720 Speaker 3: like a lot of these people really don't come from, 1514 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, the place we come from. 1515 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 2: So somebody like me from where I'm. 1516 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 3: From and then where you from looking at you, I 1517 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 3: understand it. 1518 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: I get it. 1519 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm like a nigga. I grew up with niggas like this. 1520 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 3: Like I know Math is not a bad guy. Like 1521 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 3: I tell you, I'm like, Math ain't a bad guy. 1522 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: Math ain't gonna let you just do anything and just 1523 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 3: you know, just just just fuck him over. 1524 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 2: And you know he ain't gonna let that happen. 1525 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,719 Speaker 1: Either Adam and I was about to, Yo, you're gonna 1526 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: give me a date when y'all, I. 1527 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 4: Was wondering why we wasn't invited to the what they 1528 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 4: call it the slaughter House of podcasts, Potter House, like 1529 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 4: Potterhouse was like. 1530 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I got cut out of it. I got cut out 1531 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: of it. 1532 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 3: But this is why Math is funny because Math has 1533 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 3: saying ship like, I'm like your Math, we're gonna do 1534 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 3: the show, like we definitely come to do it. 1535 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking if. 1536 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 3: You know me, you know if I say that, because 1537 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't do interviews nowhere, So if I tell you 1538 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 3: I'm coming to do an interview with you know, for. 1539 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Last I said any time you're ready, I'm ready to 1540 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 2: that's my nigga. 1541 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna do Math but Math. 1542 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 3: But because Math don't know and Math is still thinking 1543 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 3: again it's industry ship. 1544 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: He like what nigga win that is know what I'm saying. 1545 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Your map queens flipping your button flash back? 1546 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 2: No, no, no, never, never that happened. 1547 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 3: We definitely were definitely coming on and do your ship 1548 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,640 Speaker 3: because yeah, no, definitely we're definitely coming to do my 1549 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 3: extraitent opinion because again, we just we fuck with what 1550 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 3: you're doing. And I love the way you came back 1551 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 3: bringing the battle rap guys on having. I love the 1552 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 3: conversation you and Goods had. 1553 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. I love seeing y'all talk and 1554 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 2: have the conversation y'all had. 1555 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Part of the redemption. 1556 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, having. 1557 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 1: The conversations explain let me explain. 1558 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,759 Speaker 3: Right right right, And I think I think you doing 1559 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 3: that going that angle with, especially with the guys that 1560 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 3: you done went to wars with and have years of 1561 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 3: you know, just back and forth. Let's sit down and 1562 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 3: have a conversation and let's talk about it. Because we're 1563 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 3: all older, we all men there, we all have families, 1564 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 3: we're all trying to take care of our families, trying 1565 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 3: to protect our families and things like that. So seeing 1566 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 3: you have those conversations, I'm not gonna lie fuck with that. 1567 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Man, that's like some super dope shit you're doing that. 1568 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: It's necessary, Absolutely, it's necessary. I might not be the 1569 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: most knowledgeable person about the music industry or you know, 1570 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: half of the topics that most podcasts talk about. Well, 1571 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 1: one thing I understand is that these conversations become an example. 1572 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, And if you watch me, and you 1573 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 1: a math hoffa fan, and you've been following me for years, 1574 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: and you see me do that, maybe it might influence 1575 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you to do that in your own exactly. You know 1576 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,719 Speaker 1: what I mean exactly. So that's my contribution tomorrow, audience. 1577 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,599 Speaker 4: Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, 1578 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 4: hard Rock Bet. It's simple, it's clean, it's packed with 1579 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 4: new promos every day. 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In Indiana if you are someone you 1596 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,640 Speaker 3: know has a gambling problem and wants helped, called one 1597 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 3: eight hundred and nine with it gambling problem called one 1598 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,839 Speaker 3: hundred gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. 1599 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 4: Before we Let you Go, I had a lot of 1600 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 4: people hit me on a battle rap take up. 1601 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 2: We recently had. 1602 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 4: I think your third round against Hollow is top five 1603 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 4: probably of all time. 1604 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 2: And this was coming off. 1605 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 3: The oh we spoke about that years ago. 1606 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 2: Let me land it. 1607 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about hit Man versus Mook and 1608 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 4: that third round from hit Man when he was bringing 1609 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 4: up the allegations, and I was saying, the difference between 1610 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 4: the response of how everyone looked at Hollow fucking crazy 1611 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 4: after that third round versus how nobody gave a fuck 1612 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,799 Speaker 4: about the allegations about Mouk was one of the wildest 1613 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 4: things I've seen in battle rap. And I'm a battle 1614 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 4: rap casual fan because I know that the hardcore fans 1615 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 4: would kill me if they ever said, I'm a fan. 1616 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 4: I'm not like y'all. I'm a casual fan. I love 1617 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 4: battle rap, but I'm not that deep into it. But 1618 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 4: I have to give some pushback and criticism of that 1619 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 4: fan base, Like y'all didn't give a fuck about that 1620 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 4: third round unless everything Hollow did that you said with 1621 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 4: some foul as shit. You smoked that round from a 1622 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 4: creative but to a fact level was crazy. Everyone was like, yo, 1623 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 4: Hollow's fall as fuck. I didn't see one person. 1624 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 1: Say I'm gonna tell you why, all right, hollows. The 1625 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: difference between Hitman crafting around like that me crafting around 1626 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: like that is Hollow's whole image was loyalty over money, 1627 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: so bra So if you're gonna battle Hollow and you 1628 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: attack his loyalty, the fans are gonna give you that. 1629 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: That's the point, right murder Mook was never out here 1630 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 1: like I'm the best. 1631 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 7: Hunts been easy, phenomenal. 1632 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 9: Dad wasn't doing that. You shut up the move that's 1633 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 9: he wasn't doing that. 1634 01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,600 Speaker 1: So so one and we when we hear it, it's like, 1635 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: wonder is the people that's skeptical is it real and two, 1636 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: it's like, is this gonna win you this battle? Like 1637 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 1: I feel like what hip Man did was kind of 1638 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,759 Speaker 1: like what I call it dem mock the death touch, 1639 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: Like he's gonna walk away, but maybe he's gonna battle 1640 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 1: somebody down the line that's gonna know how to take 1641 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: that information and use it against him the right way. 1642 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 1: The way hip Man did it, it was like, all right, 1643 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,759 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win the battle like this, bro, Nobody 1644 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: believed that he was the greatest dad. We saw him 1645 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 1: getting arrested. You're just you're just kind of telling us 1646 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: what we already like, you know what I mean. We 1647 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 1: saw in the crib, like okay, all right, nobody thought 1648 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,639 Speaker 1: was like the best dad in the world. So yeah, 1649 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 1: you got any got anything else for us? And it 1650 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I get that. 1651 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 2: I guess. 1652 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 4: The last question I want to ask is what I've 1653 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 4: seen recently from just pod fans, is that your focus 1654 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,719 Speaker 4: more on music than you are on podcasting, and people 1655 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,960 Speaker 4: may want more potting from you than music, just of 1656 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 4: what internet comments is, but it's just internet comments. 1657 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,400 Speaker 2: Is that more your focus or is potting more your focus? 1658 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to accept that. Rap. It's like 1659 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,559 Speaker 1: a hobby. 1660 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 2: Now it's hard to accept that, you know, I think 1661 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 2: that was the beautiful thing. 1662 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,480 Speaker 1: Though it's not beautiful if you still be dreaming about 1663 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 1: this podcast, you know. 1664 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 2: Not to say we sit here and gossip. 1665 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Shout out the platinum, shout out the S five. I 1666 01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,400 Speaker 1: pretty much paid the rent for two years because I 1667 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: love creating music. I don't think people really ain't never 1668 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: really seen me in that element, you know what I mean. 1669 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I bring in multiple producers and have shit orchestrated in it. 1670 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 1: And you know, I got one hundred and eighty records 1671 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,759 Speaker 1: sitting around a ton of features that I haven't released. 1672 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 1: I got to get over this fucking complex. But in 1673 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 1: a way, I ALWASO have to accept that this is 1674 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,679 Speaker 1: the primary child. 1675 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 2: But to me, that's that's perspective. 1676 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 4: I think that's actually the blessing of the whole shit, 1677 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 4: where rap being a hobby should be looked at as 1678 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 4: a positive thing, where you could keep your overhead and 1679 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 4: your bills and make sure your kids are good based 1680 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 4: off doing the pod shit. Now you've got free range 1681 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 4: to do what the fuck you want with music. You 1682 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 4: don't got to chase shit. You don't have to fucking 1683 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 4: all right, I gotta make this type of song because 1684 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 4: this is what's going to be profitable. Like, I think 1685 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 4: that puts you in the best position ever to make 1686 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 4: music because it's not your livelihood. Like to me, that's 1687 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,719 Speaker 4: the blessing. Like, thank god I could be a podcaster, 1688 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 4: so I could finally not look at music as it 1689 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 4: has to be a monetary value. 1690 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 2: There right in this process you could create. I can 1691 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 2: do what the fun I want to do, just creating. 1692 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,560 Speaker 3: It, not from a place of like, you know, surviving, 1693 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 3: like I got to do this to make money and 1694 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 3: to survive and live. Like you can create from a 1695 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 3: space of you know, I just want to have fun 1696 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 3: with this ship and create dope music. 1697 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:26,679 Speaker 1: But then for me, it's somebody connected to my music, 1698 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 1: and I want to shout out my bro Hands. I 1699 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 1: told Hands years ago, I'm talking about early NYB days, 1700 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,680 Speaker 1: battling wrecks, all that shit. I said, Yo, if I 1701 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: ever got in a position where I can introduce you 1702 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 1: to the world, I'm gonna do it. So when the 1703 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: podcast started picking up, I started a label, DFG Records, 1704 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: and I signed my bro and we've been all over 1705 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 1: the place recording and all that. When he got stage four, cancer. 1706 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: When he found out that he had stage four cancer, 1707 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 1: it threw me. But he's fighting and he's beating the ship, 1708 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: so hopefully we'll get his music out soon. But you know, 1709 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,599 Speaker 1: it's a different I'm connected to people that I feel 1710 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: like I have to do it for, so. 1711 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,680 Speaker 2: It can't just be a hobby, right. 1712 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Hands is like he's like the locks rolled 1713 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 1: up in one person. Brooklyn, Yeah, Brooklyn Hands. 1714 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 3: About to say, I feel like I heard of this 1715 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 3: Hands Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. 1716 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: All J pain to me is like Hans Junior really 1717 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 1: really because that pain, No, the first thing that came 1718 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 1: was Hands, and they the vocal tune and all that. 1719 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like, you have to check them out, 1720 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: all J. You get mad at me if you want, 1721 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 1: you can't smoke me. The one of us. So what 1722 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 1: you going through? Pain is nice? 1723 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Now that pain is one of them. 1724 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Just me alone. 1725 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Time ago, it was so corny. Oh my god, this 1726 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 1: nigga shot a video. He had on a three quarter 1727 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 1: leather vest with no shirt, looked like a like a 1728 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: lost Jodasy member. When in the part where he dissed me, 1729 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 1: he threw a center plot into a puddle. You lucky 1730 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 1: you took that ship down over the end of that nig. 1731 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 1: You are so lucky. 1732 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 3: That gotta be funny, though, like we living like the 1733 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 3: moments when you got this, like as you're old, and 1734 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 3: be like, yo, what what the because in my mind 1735 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm still picturing this center block falling a puddle in 1736 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 3: slow motion and it just splashed, and I'm. 1737 01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck this got to do with me? Dog? 1738 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: The fuck is this me? 1739 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 10: Yo? 1740 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 1: This is somebody? 1741 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,680 Speaker 3: Like that art form of dissing each other is so 1742 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,640 Speaker 3: crazy when you go back and just look at it 1743 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 3: and be like, yeah, was. 1744 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,760 Speaker 1: That what was that? That rain man? But what was 1745 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 1: that rain Man? 1746 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 10: He was. 1747 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,559 Speaker 1: Rain Man took a shot in the three quarter eleven 1748 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 1: vests and no ship. 1749 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 4: I got it to a math while he's here. I've 1750 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 4: had so I have a two year old daughter, right, 1751 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 4: and sometimes I, like, you know, sleep next to her 1752 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 4: crib with it open, just just so she could go 1753 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 4: to sleep with me there. But I put my AirPod in, 1754 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 4: so I put on like a podcast sometimes that. 1755 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 2: Should helped me go to sleep. 1756 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 4: So I put on some of y'all ship and then 1757 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,519 Speaker 4: you know, you can't really do the algorithm ship. 1758 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 2: So sometimes I go back to an old Math. 1759 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 4: Episode so I'll be halfway already do and it's. 1760 01:27:48,320 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 1: Hard for complaints about that shot. 1761 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,799 Speaker 4: And not be feeling bad for me because mech claims 1762 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,439 Speaker 4: being that he is a backpack rapper, and I'm like 1763 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 4: Dan Matt is lying in his rhymes he hanged with 1764 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 4: the backpackers. 1765 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:13,599 Speaker 3: No more. 1766 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 4: The amount of times I've jumped up next to my 1767 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 4: daughter's crib based off that first. 1768 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,719 Speaker 2: Part when it goes from one. 1769 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 4: Interview good time she was asleep, I was trying to 1770 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,439 Speaker 4: make sure I wasn't getting shot in the crib yo 1771 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 4: yo map. 1772 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about somebody like we were just finishing smack Man. 1773 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 3: The importance of Smack not just to batter rapp culture, 1774 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 3: but to our culture period. And when he's let it 1775 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,679 Speaker 3: do for years, coming from the DVD era to now 1776 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 3: having the caffeine app and things like that, what he's 1777 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 3: doing with the how important is it that we continue 1778 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,800 Speaker 3: to support people like Smack that have been doing it 1779 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 3: for so many years and have created so many opportunities 1780 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:55,599 Speaker 3: for people in the culture. 1781 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: I think it's very important, But at the same time, 1782 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important to support the culture period. Shout 1783 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 1: out to Smack. I was one of the battle rappers 1784 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: on the DVD absolutely battling Iron Solomon. I had the DVD, 1785 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 1: of course, the viral ship with Dose and. 1786 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 2: One time I actually feel like you were not wrong whatsoever. 1787 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 1: One time? 1788 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 4: Which time at the dose one? Okay, the serious thing 1789 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 4: I to have, like that's wrong if you ever met him. No, 1790 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 4: that's actually hilarious response, which I respect. Like ship, yes. 1791 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Fair ship. 1792 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 4: When everyone's wilding out back in the day and I 1793 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 4: was like, you know, somebody put their whole fucking bring 1794 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 4: of their hat in your nose. 1795 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 2: You're not gonna hit them. 1796 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:51,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely gave me the Scottie pit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1797 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 1: But it's very important because I feel like battle rap 1798 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 1: in a way, Smack, you r L all other Battle 1799 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 1: League support lyricism, and we can't let this ship die, bro, 1800 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,080 Speaker 1: We just can't. We grew up loving the bars and 1801 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,680 Speaker 1: something something happened to you chemically, like your mind expanded 1802 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,320 Speaker 1: when you heard a dope bar, or you figured out 1803 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a complex metaphor, you know what I mean. And it 1804 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 1: takes a level of intelligence, and I feel like there's 1805 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: a there's a lot of motherfuckers depending on who you 1806 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,640 Speaker 1: listen to as far as rap, like I kind of 1807 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:35,920 Speaker 1: tell like where you're at mentally. 1808 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's why I think a lot of great 1809 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 4: lyricists have become good podcasters. Not only it made sense 1810 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 4: why your ship popped, it's the same part of the 1811 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,840 Speaker 4: brain why a lot of great lyricists have become great businessmen. 1812 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,719 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mmm. So I feel like it's an element 1813 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 1: that needs to stay now when I say support all 1814 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 1: all leagues, because there's only so much Smack can do 1815 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,880 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of talent. So sometimes you need 1816 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: an RBE, you need a TBL, you need these other leagues. 1817 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, gonna keep shit going, you know what 1818 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean? So yeah, Smack shout out to Smack. What 1819 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 1: he did. I was the first battle on U or 1820 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,439 Speaker 1: L Me and Rex. So to see where it is now, 1821 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,640 Speaker 1: it's like credible, incredible. They've been trying to get me 1822 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: to come back, but you ain't. 1823 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna jump back in the ring. 1824 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it. Who would it be on Edge? 1825 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 1: But this episode, I don't know if I want to 1826 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 1: hear this ship back. 1827 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,439 Speaker 3: You know, man said listen man, you because you got 1828 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 3: you got like you said, you you got a lot 1829 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 3: of shit on other niggas too that you can go 1830 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 3: home and start crafting too. Yeah, but who is the 1831 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,120 Speaker 3: one battle that you would jump out there for, like, yeah, 1832 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 3: we gotta do this, Like, who's the one guy that 1833 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 3: you would be like all right for him? 1834 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Because we know they'll be big. It'll be a moment 1835 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,599 Speaker 2: Jada kiss, Oh so you're not even going to yeah, just. 1836 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 11: Through you right, Yeah, I'm wait hold of it, just 1837 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 11: like I wasn't Expectator. Yes, I was like a ten 1838 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 11: million yeah Jacob, I mean yeah. 1839 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,160 Speaker 1: But all right seriously, because I don't think Jada would. 1840 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's in that moment. 1841 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I would love, however, the Legends only thing that I 1842 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 1: did with Method Man, yeah and Nikki Jam I would love, 1843 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 1: like because I know there's a like I interviewed ghost 1844 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 1: Face and Ray last night, and ghost Face wants to 1845 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 1: do that ship. He wanted to jump in the ring. 1846 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: He wants to do that ship. Ray was like kind 1847 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,320 Speaker 1: of like, yah, man, I don't you know what I mean? 1848 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: Ten million, you know what I mean? But I feel 1849 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of rappers just like Yo. I 1850 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,040 Speaker 1: would love to put myself to that type of challenge. 1851 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I feel like the Legends only ship. It's like it's 1852 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,080 Speaker 1: more artistic than your career is over. 1853 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,080 Speaker 2: After Yeah, you know, I almost like Big three rap 1854 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 2: thing with. 1855 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,720 Speaker 1: And it's this like half of the guests that I've 1856 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: had on the show watch battle Rap and that's why 1857 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,360 Speaker 1: I was able to get them, you know what I mean. 1858 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 1: So I would love to do something like that, Like. 1859 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 3: Ghost Face makes sense because battle rap, like you said 1860 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 3: when you when you battle recks on your the first 1861 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:28,000 Speaker 3: where battle rap was there, you know you came up with, 1862 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 3: battling was different than it is now. 1863 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 1: Now. 1864 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,719 Speaker 3: It's more like like spoken word poetry. 1865 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:34,679 Speaker 2: It's a lot more. 1866 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 3: Theatrics and two it and things like that. You come 1867 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 3: from straight going to somebody block. Let me hear your boss, right, 1868 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,920 Speaker 3: So somebody like ghost is very animated. He has a 1869 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,800 Speaker 3: lot of character that has a lot of personality. He 1870 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,840 Speaker 3: makes sense in that ring because what people like to 1871 01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,439 Speaker 3: see today in battle rap. Ghost Face has been that 1872 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 3: problem his entire career. 1873 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,439 Speaker 4: He also was one of like the clearest voices ever, 1874 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 4: like where Ray has like a un orthodox flow and 1875 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 4: that would be that may be weird on on the stage. 1876 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 4: Ghosts like he's made for the U r L stage. 1877 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Now he wants he want to cry you. 1878 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Whatever y'all do. Don't battle ray On, he said on 1879 01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 1: the show about what type of battle rap he would 1880 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:26,040 Speaker 1: be battle. Do not battle ray On. That's all I'm saying. 1881 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:27,960 Speaker 1: Are we gonna do voicemails with math? 1882 01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 5: All right? 1883 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:29,559 Speaker 2: Let's so so maw. 1884 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 3: We got callers that call only voicemails to ask for advice, 1885 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 3: asks crazy ship, So we're gonna do one with you. 1886 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,679 Speaker 2: We could all give him some advice together. You've got mail. 1887 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 10: So I was born with a defect that pretty much 1888 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 10: makes it impossible for me to get erections because I 1889 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 10: have a leak in my veins and down there pumps 1890 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 10: in it just right back out. So you can't get 1891 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 10: directions obviously because bluff slow doesn't stay where it needs 1892 01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 10: to stay, and so I trying to get surgery on 1893 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 10: it done to try to tie the vein up. 1894 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: This a man like, we're still why still playing this? Bro? 1895 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:13,599 Speaker 1: I want to hear why the fuck is he acting? Y'all? 1896 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, hegas like, yeah, these niggas look 1897 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,120 Speaker 1: like they got erect out this folks. You know they 1898 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 1: went through something. Let me ask these niggas. 1899 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:26,680 Speaker 2: I got to. 1900 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:34,080 Speaker 10: Look, said, my real last option is trying to get 1901 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 10: a prosthetic. We's not this guytic penus because when you 1902 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,800 Speaker 10: get the prosthetic, you don't get any more natural erections. 1903 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 10: You still come and everything, and you still feel everything 1904 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 10: that is the doctors, but you don't get natural erections. 1905 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,519 Speaker 10: And I feel like that's such an important part of. 1906 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 8: Being a man, is just being able to get hard 1907 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,559 Speaker 8: on you know, of it down and baby d would 1908 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 8: you like be with the guy that has a prosthetic penis? 1909 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 10: Like if you knew about it, would like to tear you. 1910 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,720 Speaker 2: All right. I don't want to apologize for laughing. I like 1911 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,960 Speaker 2: too the condition. It was a natural reaction. I apologize 1912 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 2: for laughing. 1913 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,560 Speaker 5: Yes, it's not. 1914 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,000 Speaker 2: You can start stopping first. 1915 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 1: He's not funny. 1916 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 6: Funny what if you did couldn't get hard Would you 1917 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 6: think that this guy's. 1918 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 1: Yes, that wouldn't be calling. Let's start there the best 1919 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,360 Speaker 1: kept secret in the world, nigga, would I A. 1920 01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,520 Speaker 6: Wouldn't figure out the secret because he called anonymously. 1921 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 5: We don't have his name. 1922 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 12: Say his name with the doc in the d n V. 1923 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,080 Speaker 12: He said, get this nigga, honey back, Bro, what is 1924 01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:59,439 Speaker 12: going on in fact exists? 1925 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:00,120 Speaker 1: Niggah. 1926 01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have kept that to myself and just 1927 01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 3: got the prosthetic and nobody would have ever known. 1928 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 2: That would have just been my secret to the grade. 1929 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,320 Speaker 6: Is it a prosthetic or is it a penis pump? 1930 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 6: Like do you have to squeeze. 1931 01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 8: Your laws up? 1932 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 4: But I don't even know what that means? Name Frank, 1933 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 4: that was a battle triple on me personally. 1934 01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,960 Speaker 6: If you want to know if I would date somebody 1935 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 6: with a prosthetic, as long as it wasn't too weird 1936 01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,599 Speaker 6: looking inside and as long as I. 1937 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 4: Mean, you probably still prostheticic though I really don't even 1938 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:32,680 Speaker 4: know what the funk that is. 1939 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 6: Like, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he's got 1940 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 6: a prosthetic, like I think he's. 1941 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,479 Speaker 4: Getting like the way like when soldiers come home after 1942 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 4: they get their leg blown off, Like it's that version 1943 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:41,519 Speaker 4: of a dick. 1944 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 2: It's Lieutenant Dan of dis Yeah, it's the same. 1945 01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,439 Speaker 1: What are we talking about, bro? 1946 01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,840 Speaker 2: Like, well, not if you can still feel it though 1947 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,479 Speaker 2: he could do numbers though he. 1948 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 4: Could anyway you talk about that ship, that might be 1949 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 4: the best option if you could still feel it still 1950 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,040 Speaker 4: come and you like you break all the time. 1951 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh, it's in searching of a prosthetic balloon device. It 1952 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,280 Speaker 3: was the order to obtain. 1953 01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:08,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 1954 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 3: So it's like a rebox, like a pumping up. It's 1955 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:18,679 Speaker 3: like a rebox pump. Okay, first group. 1956 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 1957 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,160 Speaker 2: I would have just got that ship and not told nobody. 1958 01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,680 Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, I think you squeezed the balls when you 1959 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,040 Speaker 6: want to get hard, like it's like a pump. 1960 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 1: This is where we're going. 1961 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, sir, I would just say get it and 1962 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:34,759 Speaker 3: then don't tell nobody. 1963 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,679 Speaker 6: Don't no half flashed dick, like we've been there before. 1964 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 1: That ship is ass half flashed? 1965 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 3: What what that's when it's like not all the way 1966 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,960 Speaker 3: a little medium, Yeah, like you ain't all the way up, 1967 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 3: but you are right. 1968 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,559 Speaker 5: Slim through a keyhole. 1969 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:48,840 Speaker 2: You get it done. 1970 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,559 Speaker 1: Jello to the wall, a lesbian less lesbian. 1971 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 2: Let's being all right, man, listen, man, we appreciate you, 1972 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,120 Speaker 2: no advice, no wed one. 1973 01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,640 Speaker 4: We apologize for laughing to Yeah, get the surgery and 1974 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,479 Speaker 4: and and you know, just get to it. Go crazy 1975 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,519 Speaker 4: because now you can just get hard whenever you want. 1976 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 4: Pause like you good nigga name is frank little. 1977 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,280 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry that we have you. 1978 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 2: Can you your question when maybe a third round against 1979 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:22,880 Speaker 2: against him with this information that. 1980 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,640 Speaker 3: You old bat battle wrap about the prosthetic. 1981 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 2: You can't battle wrap. I have the prosthetic, and niggas 1982 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,840 Speaker 2: find out. Yeah, because I heard Mooke give Iron Solomon. 1983 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,639 Speaker 3: He was about to say something, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1984 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 4: I heard a whole round where Mooke talked about Iron 1985 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:39,639 Speaker 4: Solomon having one ball. 1986 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't spend that. If I was Mook, I wouldn't. 1987 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 1: I would have been like, nah, I ain't. No, I'm 1988 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:47,600 Speaker 1: not going that angle right doing my nigga Like you're 1989 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,639 Speaker 1: inadvertently making the crowd think about this niggas j T. Yeah, 1990 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 1: why what, I'm just. 1991 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:55,320 Speaker 2: Leading with how you got the balls? 1992 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:55,479 Speaker 1: Sad? 1993 01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:56,560 Speaker 2: Next week's like, I don't even know if it was 1994 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 2: worth that line. 1995 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. 1996 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't really worth and I mean they should have 1997 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:00,719 Speaker 2: done five rounds. 1998 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,479 Speaker 1: Like you move on some terrible angles man, He's dope, 1999 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,240 Speaker 1: but terrible. 2000 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 2: Before we leave, give me your mount rushmore a battle. 2001 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 1: Rat math HAF for math, half for MATHILF for math, 2002 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:11,679 Speaker 1: half for math. 2003 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 2: All right, the next mountain over. 2004 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 3: Next the question of who I would battle. Yeah, you 2005 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,840 Speaker 3: said Jadakiss and then and I. 2006 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 1: Was really serious about the Jada Kiss ship. I did 2007 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,280 Speaker 1: that ship. I said that years ago, and he kind 2008 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,840 Speaker 1: of sent me a d M like what is you talking? 2009 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,560 Speaker 1: I did you know? Just that's just for kicks. I 2010 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:35,000 Speaker 1: would definitely I think murder Mook would be the battle 2011 01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:36,479 Speaker 1: I say I'm going to do. 2012 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 4: I was hoping that would be the one that you did, 2013 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 4: so that's the one. I've yeah that from that Mook 2014 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 4: is more active. I felt like you and him makes 2015 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 4: the most sense at this point with the history, with 2016 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,679 Speaker 4: y'all legacy, that that ship just makes just so many 2017 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,600 Speaker 4: that's that's the one that that's so many years a 2018 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,479 Speaker 4: battle rat history right there on like battling each other. 2019 01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,280 Speaker 4: Jesus like everyone's waiting again for part two of Move 2020 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,800 Speaker 4: and Lux. To me is math and Move now in 2021 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 4: this era is the one that everybody would wait for. 2022 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: I think I think his pen is at now skipping 2023 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 1: over that iron Solomon and ship. Where his pen is at? Now, 2024 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,879 Speaker 1: that's what I would need to like really push myself, 2025 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 2026 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,559 Speaker 3: And he's not I think just man, he sounded drinking. 2027 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 3: He's not drinking his ship and I'm not drinking fire. 2028 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, we'd be too sober assed 2029 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:36,760 Speaker 1: fire so staged. Yeah, gotta be crazy people get me 2030 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 1: the Battle of tay Rock. But I'm like, tell you, 2031 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 1: I like, but. 2032 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 2: I just think. 2033 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 1: I think. 2034 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 2: I think with you and Mok is just more there. 2035 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because tay Rock doesn't even understand how bad of 2036 01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:52,919 Speaker 1: a matchup that is. Like you're the guy who almost 2037 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 1: fights niggas versus. 2038 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 2: The God, Like, what are you gonna say to me? 2039 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 1: Shut up? Shut up, get somebody to hold you back. 2040 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 4: But I mean, I also hear you on that because 2041 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 4: as much as I liked tay Rock, I hated when 2042 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 4: he was battling Daylight and like was appreciating his bars. 2043 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,600 Speaker 4: I hate it when Iron Solomon a battled Disaster and 2044 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,679 Speaker 4: kept complimenting him, Like, I just don't. 2045 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 2: I just don't like that type of ship. 2046 01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,640 Speaker 4: It's supposed to be, like y'all are supposed even if 2047 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,559 Speaker 4: you're lying, if it's if it's wrestling each other, Like, yeah, 2048 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 4: I think it's. 2049 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,520 Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's the problem. For me to be motivated, 2050 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,880 Speaker 1: it's either got to be somebody who I feel like, 2051 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,560 Speaker 1: yo all right, I got to push the pen or 2052 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,080 Speaker 1: I really don't like you. If I really don't like you, 2053 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 1: you die. The battle is better. Yeah you're dead. 2054 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well man, if we appreciate you, man, this conversation 2055 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 3: was beautiful, man, A lot of clarity. Yeah, man, this 2056 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 3: was this was long overdue. So we definitely I appreciate y'all. Yeah, man, 2057 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. We definitely gotta come. I don't know, Damn, 2058 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 3: we talked about so much real ship here the fucking 2059 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 3: we talk about math. 2060 01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 4: No, it's gonna be the I come up with something 2061 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,559 Speaker 4: that's the thumbnail should be the therapy session of Math. 2062 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,680 Speaker 3: Definitely was the therapy session for Math. But seriously, Math, man, 2063 01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate you just being vulnerable and having this conversation 2064 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 3: with us. Man, it was beautiful. I think that a 2065 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,840 Speaker 3: lot of people are going to learn a lot from you, 2066 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,000 Speaker 3: a different perspective of math, a different side of math. 2067 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 3: Love everything you're doing. Love to love to revamp the 2068 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 3: way you came back. Definitely keep bringing the guys from 2069 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 3: the Battle culture on there and having those conversations, because that, 2070 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,160 Speaker 3: to me is super fire. Seeing y'all sit down and 2071 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 3: have those conversations away from the battle arena and yeah, 2072 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:43,720 Speaker 3: we come to do your ship, so we'll see you 2073 01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:44,120 Speaker 3: in a minute. 2074 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: Give me I'm that nigga. 2075 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 2: He's just ginger. 2076 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:52,280 Speaker 1: That's math high, absolute