1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the program that keeps you 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: in touch with the Houston Texans all year long. Virtually 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: we were dark from the loss to the Colts to 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: the day after the Super Bowl. But this is our 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: first week back and we love being back, especially since 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: it's Thursday and it's the General John McLean joining us. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: How's it going to John Mark. It's great to be 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: back on It's one of my favorite hours of the week, 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you having me. Is always fun to 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: talk about the off season. I'm glad to put the 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl behind me, and Atlanta did a really good job, 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: but you know that game was not memorable to me. Great, 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: it's the best defensive performance I've ever seen in all 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: the ones I've covered, but it's kind of one of 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: those there wasn't controversy. You want to put it behind. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: You're looking free agency, look at the draft, and changes 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff. Lots to talk about. Well, I 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: do want to talk about the Super Bowl a bit, 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: because we did talk about it Monday, but Tuesday we 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: had the coaching changes. Last night we were at the 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Houston Sports Awards interviewing a lot of people. Bit a 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl talk but not much. But John, let's get 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans here, because these coaching changes are 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: the top story of the week. And you look at 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly as offensive coordinator, and you know, I really 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: like this move because not only do you have Tim 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Kelly as offensive coordinator, but you have Carl Smith as 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, so you do get some new thinking in there. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: And clearly Bill O'Brien trusts Tim Kelly an awful lot. 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: And you have Carl Smith to work with Deshaun Watson. 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: And I went over at the other day. The list 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: of qbs that he's worked with is highly impressive, most 33 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: recently Russell Wilson. Carl Zun works here. Tracy Smith, so 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: he's got family here, he see his grandkids. And he 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: had been with Pete Carroll at USC and then he 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: went with him to Seattle. And I like the fact 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: he coached Wilson, a quarterback with a similar skill set 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: to Watson. Watson just needs more development. In Carl's seventy 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: years old. He's not looking to be an offensive coordinator 40 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: somewhere else. He's not looking for a head coaching job. 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: He is what he is. He's a quarterback coach. Long 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: time offensive coordinator, his fingerbrands just about every position you 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: can have in his career, his coaching career. And I 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: like when guys it's always fans and a lot of media. 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: They don't want people promoted. They want you to go 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: outside and hire somebody, new, new ideas. But just because 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: you bring a guy like Tim Kelly up, which we 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: all knew was gonna happen, it's just a matter of 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: when it doesn't mean Tim don't tell Bill what he thinks. 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: And I talked to a guy who used to work 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: here in twenty fourteen, and he had an office in 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: there with Kelly, and he told me that the Super Bowl, 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: the joke around the office was no matter how early 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: you came, Kelly was already there. No matter how late 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: you stay, Kelly was staying later. And he was obsessed 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: with being a sponge and soaking up as much as 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: he could learn on both sides of the ball, even 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: though he was offensive quality control. He'd been a GA 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: with O'Brien at Penn State, and he said everybody was 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: so impressed with him, mightn't pay attention to him. In 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen then, and you've heard this when O'Brien starts 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: talking about coaches unsolicited. You know, if you ask him 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: about a specific coach like Sean Ryan, he's gonna say 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: great things. But when Bill's up there just talking about 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: coaches off the top of his head. He always mentioned 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly, Mike Devlin and last season Brad Seeley. So 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: Kelly's very highly thought of him. There's some people think 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be a head coach. Well, Will Long 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: is another guy that Bill O'Brien will bring up unsolicited. 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: And Hill coach tight Ends taking over Kelly's spot there, 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: and look, receivers to tight ends or tight ends to 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: receivers to quarterbacks to OC. That's a familiar path, but 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: tight Ends to OC that's a pretty strong right there. Now, 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: George Gotzy kind of did it, but he was a 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach here after coaching tight Ends in New England, 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: and clearly he knows the system. This is gonna be 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: a good thing. And you mentioned Smith as well, so 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I like all of that. I also like the former 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: players coming in John because t J. Yates. Look, he's 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive assistant. It's not like he's going 81 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: to stand up in front of the team and say 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: much although maybe Bill O'Brian will have him do that 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: to talk about his experiences and things like that. But 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: I like having a guy like that on the staff. 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Let me go back to Tim Kelly, right quick, right. 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: He also worked with the offensive line and he's been 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: heavily involved in the game plans, not just like O'Brien 88 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: took him up and promoted him and he didn't deserve it. 89 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: He's young, thirty two. But if he would like wave 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: at Sean mcvagh in an airport, he could get a 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: head coaching job next year. Yeah, maybe not last year, 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Maybe not now this week, yeah, not this week. And 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: so I love having former players in there. TJ a 94 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: legend for obvious reasons. Bill's told you on Texans Radio 95 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: how TJ let him know he wanted to be a 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: coach and had stayed in touch with him, same as 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Kim Dent. And you know, Keim's gonna learn a lot 98 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: from Rome real Cornew Keem being a linebacker, I'm assuming 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna be working with linebackers. And the one I 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: really like is Brian Cushing's that moves took a lot 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: of great last week. The way I look at it, 102 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: people ask me quite a bit who are my favorite oilers, 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: who are my favorite Texans, and always have Brian near 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: the top of my list with the favorite Texans along 105 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: with Eric Winston, Indy klou and and knowing how hard 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Cushing worked, how he had over twenty operations when he played, 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: how smart he was as a player. O'Brien talked to 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: him last year when they cut him about if you 109 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: decide you want to do something, let me know. And 110 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: so I think they knew they're gonna take some some 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: guh and but the the advantages outweigh that, and I'm 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: glad that if Brian after sitting out a year, I'm 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: guessing he wanted to play only thirty years old and 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: he didn't get that opportunity. And like Wes Welker, after 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: being out, you decide, Okay, I'm gonna put my toe 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: in the water and see if if I like it. 117 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: And Welker now as a position coach receivers forty nine 118 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: ers and Brian is gonna work with strength and rehab 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and defense, and I think that was a terrific move. Yeah, 120 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think it's great to have 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: him in the workout room and as a motivator I mean, look, 122 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: they had Cedric Smith here once upon a time. He 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: played in the league, right. I think when you have 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: guys who played in the league, it's not the be 125 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: all end all, but I think it certainly helps in 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: certain instances, especially when it's a guy who's played as 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: recently as Brian Cushing. And you know, I knew that 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: people would say what they're gonna say, and a lot 129 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: of them them are just joking around. And I'm not 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: saying it's like having Frank abig Nail in the building 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: for certain things. But with Cushing, he has you know, 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: he's lived through a lot John and he can tell 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: these guys exactly what's going on with things, and you know, 134 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: how to take care of their bodies and how to 135 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: prepare for the NFL week to week. How many people 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: you think, no, who's Frank? I don't know. Well, I 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: just thought, what was the movie that was about here? 138 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: If you can catch me? If you can with Leonardo DiCaprio. 139 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Brian is very well respected by the players and coaches, 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: because of his art, because his hard work, because of 141 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: his leadership. You know, he was a play caller, he 142 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: was a captain. You knew how much Bill O'Brien thought 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: about him. When Brian got back from his ten games suspension, 144 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham and but Ardert McKinney were entrenched at inside, 145 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: so they started him an outside and they made him 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: a captain right away. Shows you what they think, what 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Bill thinks about him. And I know Brian, I've known 148 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: him since the day he was drafted. He will he 149 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: will dive in head first into this job, no question 150 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: about that, all right. So the play calling thing, we 151 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: asked Bill O'Brien about it the other night and he 152 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't really answer the question directly, but you get the 153 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: feeling that Bill O'Brien's gonna be really involved with calling 154 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the plays. But it is a collaborative thing as far 155 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: as game planning, what goes into it, what goes into 156 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: what they might call in certain situations. But you get 157 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the feeling that he's going to pull the trigger out 158 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: what the actual selection ends up being. Only one guy 159 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: talks to the quarterback and that's Bill, and that was 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: off with fifteen seconds left to the play. You know 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: he wants to give it to George Godsie. I mean, 162 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: you never know what's good speaking of George god See, 163 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I talked to Brian Horrior last Friday in a story 164 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I ran for Saturday and asked Brian. I sat, I 165 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: was waiting for him at the table, and I said, 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I might ask you something you haven't been asked. He goes, yeah, 167 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: all right, let me hear it. I said, do you 168 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: think the Texans the Bill O'Brien can win a Super 169 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Texans? And he didn't hesitate. And then 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I said, there's a lot of speculation and demands in 171 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: Houston fans media wanting Bill give up play caller. What 172 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: do you think about O'Brien as a play caller? Should 173 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: he be a play caller when he's a head coach? 174 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: And he goes, man, I wished he'd call plays with 175 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the year I was there, and I said, well, I said, 176 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: I know, gods he started, but didn't Bill take it over. 177 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: He said, no, I wish he had a He didn't 178 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: call him, and I remember, Godsy was getting a lot 179 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: of grief at one point, and I thought, Bill kind 180 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: of without saying it, led us to believe he'd gotten 181 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: back involved, and that took the heat out one and 182 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: then and then George call him, and then he and 183 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Horrier were both gone, and I thought maybe Horrior says 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Bill benched him in the first game, made him play 185 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: and when he was just terrible in that kansee playoff game, 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: and then cut him. Maybe he's a little better. And 187 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: if he is, but that's one thing. But he didn't 188 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: hesitate talking both about Billy can do this and why? 189 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: And I always think it's funny listen to New England 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: guys talking about Billy and so him he just liked 191 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Every time we talked to Brady goes on 192 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: you as when as I use this on six ten, 193 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: you asked Brady about O'Brien, it's like asking the guy 194 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: at the time he tells you how to make a watch, 195 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: just goes on and on and on. And so I 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: thought that was very interesting. And why wouldn't O'Brien want 197 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: to call the players this year with Watson going into 198 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: his third season with you're gonna have two new tackles, 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: I believe I think he'll use a one and a 200 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: two on the tackles. Maybe signed somebody free agency QT, 201 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll start off healthy, Maybe Will Fuller, he'll start 202 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: off healthy. And who wouldn't want to have Fuller and 203 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Hopkins and QT? As your options as a receiver, and 204 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: so who wouldn't want to do that. I think people 205 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: misunderstand sometimes not everybody, but they misunderstand what goes into 206 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: a game plan. You know, if they have third in 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: short well that week, in particular against certain defensive fronts, 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: they might have X number of options, and he's gonna 209 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: select from those options more often than not. Sometimes he 210 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: might take a flyer or whatever, and let's just run this. 211 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: We haven't run it in three weeks, but I really 212 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: have a good feeling here. But I'm thinking that there's 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: where the help comes in. There's where the Tim Kelly 214 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: help comes in there. Carl Smith, you know Mike Devlin 215 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: as well on offensive line and as a run game 216 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: coordinator of sorts. I mean, he could help out there, 217 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: and they're gonna improve talent as well. And then you 218 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: look at there's a hidden higher here. Not hidden they 219 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: announced it. Doug West to help out Bill O'Brien on 220 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: the football side. He has been the vice president of 221 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: football operations and really in charge of travel and navigating, yeah, 222 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: navigating things around this building because believe me, it's not 223 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: like it's everything's paved from one end to the other. 224 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: You have to navigate around the rodeo and the other 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: events here and the schedule. I mean, it's it's really 226 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: tricky how they coordinate everything. And Doug is a super 227 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: organized guy, and I think working closely with O'Brien on 228 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: those things, O'Brien super organized. But yet all that organization 229 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: takes time, and maybe you can help him free up 230 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of time. That's just my theory here 231 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: that between. I know that's a very subtle thing, but 232 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I think that along with Tim Kelly and Carl Smith 233 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: coming in, I see the tide rising here with these 234 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: guys being brought in in these roles. Doug West came 235 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: from Denver. Kubiak hired him. He was very respected with 236 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos and what's his title, new new title Dougs 237 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: assistant to the head, Yeah, football helper, outer guys something. 238 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: So it's obvious O'Brien trusts him or he wouldn't do 239 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: this for him. And uh, I kind of thought after 240 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Bill got here, Doug might be fired after a year 241 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: because Bill wanted to bring more of his own guys. 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: But you knew when he kept him from the previous regime. 243 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Doug did a really good job and he takes them 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: over from that side of it too, directly next to him, 245 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: if you will. And they bring in Clay Hampton, who 246 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: used to be with the Jets and his father is 247 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: with the Jet. Was his father with the Jets when 248 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: they were the New York Titans, or maybe right after 249 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: the chat. I think he started sixty four. Namoth got 250 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: there in sixty five, and so he preceded Namoth and 251 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: Clay Hampton started working with his dad, who was an 252 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: equipment guy, hanging around the facility and worked his way up. 253 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: He was with them until last year. And I talked 254 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: to three guys who either cover the Jets or worked 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: for the Jets, and they really liked him. It's like 256 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: the Hampton family or legendary. And with the Jets, Brian 257 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Gaine was there, Brian knew him, brings him in his 258 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: director of football Ops, which is what he was with 259 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: the Jets, And so I know Brian has another guy. 260 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: He's not the first one he hired from the Jets, right, 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and he feels very comfortable. And they'll want a veteran, 262 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: a veteran there, and I say a veteran, I'm not 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: just talking about a guy's middle league ten years I'm 264 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: talking about. Guy has been in a long time. Yeah, 265 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: and so I like a lot. I like these changes. 266 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, you know, I think O'Brien should 267 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: call the plays. You know what you're getting with him, 268 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: because I'd just like to see the Lions stay relatively healthy. Well, 269 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: look when he did in the six games with Watson 270 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: and seventeen. Then in eighteen the offense at times was explosive. 271 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't forget about days like they had 272 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: against Miami and Philadelphia when they came back from out 273 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: of nowhere to take the lead late in that game 274 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and other things. By the way, the Titans were from 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: sixty sixty one to sixty two in New York, A 276 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: lot of people don't remember that. Well, of course they 277 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: don't because they weren't around them. But they made a 278 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: change in sixty three. It appears that in nineteen sixty 279 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: three they made change. The General stays with us, and 280 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Texans and how people what they 281 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: thought of the Texans as the General was walking around 282 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta getting ready for the Super Bowl last week, and 283 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: how I think that's Super Bowl. I'm not going to 284 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: call that Super Bowl underrated. But my overall thoughts on it. 285 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio John mcclaim with us as we keep 286 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: you company on Texans All Access tonight here Texans Radio 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten. You can check out all the 288 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: podcasts on Houston Texans dot com or iTunes or wherever 289 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: you get fine podcasts. All right, general, A couple of 290 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: things on the Super Bowl. Three points for the Rams 291 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: Sean McVay. Everybody holds him in such high regard, and 292 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: they should. He's had a tremendous start to his career. 293 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot draw it up much better than 294 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: this playoff appearance super Bowl appearance. However, people were perplexed 295 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: with the lack of production offensively in the Super Bowl. 296 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Your take, and by the way, I'll attach to that, 297 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips has to be saying I hold them to 298 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen points. I do the players do, but thirteen 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: points and they can't even get close. Bill Belichick went 300 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs once in his first six years as 301 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: head coach. Give me a playoffs one time, won one 302 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: game and he was five and eleven his first year 303 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: in New England. So what McVeigh has done adding players, 304 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: they added so many more players last season when he 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: took over that Jeff Fisher didn't have, especially on offense, 306 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: so they got explosive. Bill Belichick has out coached a 307 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: lot better coaches than Sean McVay, a lot more experienced 308 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: coaches than Sean McVeigh. Brian Flores did a great job. 309 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Belichick had his fingerprints on it. It was the best 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: defensive performance I've ever seen. In the Super Bowl, Cowboys 311 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: beat Miami was twenty four to three. Then Miami won 312 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: the next two to three in a row. First time 313 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: anybody had done three in a row, and I think 314 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: this was the first time anybody had three in a 315 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: rows since those Dolphins. But this one was so dominant 316 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: against a great offense. Miami didn't have a great offense. 317 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Then the Rams average thirty two point nine points twelve 318 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: times in regular season, and once in the playoffs, they'd 319 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: scored thirty. I saw an esp in late one night 320 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. Somebody bet I can't remember how 321 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: much money it was on the Rams to score three 322 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: and one two und fifty thousand. Who would bet on 323 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the Rams scoring three points? The Patriots had done nothing 324 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: all season or in the playoffs that made you think 325 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: they were capable of a game plan and a defensive 326 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: performance like that. Ed Boles, the Oilers defensive coordinator, I 327 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: love you Blue Air under bum Phillips. Then their head 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: coach told me the Texas Bowl event last night. He said, 329 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I watched that and it was almost like they knew 330 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: what they were gonna do. It's almost like they they 331 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: figured something out. And that's like the seventy nine divisional 332 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: playoff game in which the Chargers were favored by twenty 333 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: over the Oilers in San Diego Air Corriel with Fouts 334 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: and they picked up Dan Fouts's foot if he kept 335 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: his eat straight, it was going to be I think 336 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: a drop back. So Greg Bangham, the inside linebacker, would 337 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: mean it was going to be a pass. Yelled air Force. 338 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Air Force. Air Force. And if they knew it was 339 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: going to be a run, he yelled army and Vernon 340 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: Berry picked off what is still a playoff record for interceptions, 341 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: and they pulled off the biggest upset in the city's history. 342 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: And so bows and I didn't thought about that, And 343 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: then he said it was just like everything they did 344 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots were ready for. And that's very interesting because 345 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that anywhere else. But it was just 346 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: a stupendous performance and by the Patriots. And you know, 347 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: the fewest fewest points they've ever scored in a Super Bowl. 348 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: Every game they'd played eight games eight super Bowls was 349 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: one score games. This is the first one that was not, 350 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: and they scored thirteen points. I totally get the hatred 351 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: because they're so good, and I love all the tweets 352 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: about how they were long and suffering, didn't have a 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: victory parade since November in New England, and you know 354 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: all the other things that in the Red Sox have 355 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: won four World Series. It's just ridiculous. I can't stand it, 356 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: but I respect them. It's mind boggling the success because 357 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: you think about how much you'd love to just have 358 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: one or just go to one, and they've done all 359 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: of this. They've won six of them. I married the 360 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: heck out of them. Think about twenty or thirty years 361 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: from now, people look back at this dynasty, Think about 362 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: how Gronk and Brady and Edelman will always be welcome 363 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: back to Boston, New England area well because of their heroics, 364 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: forever forever. But the other thing is how many other 365 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: guys before them have contributed to the success of the 366 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Patriots winning these Super Bowls. The constant, as Robert Kraft 367 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: pointed out after the game, is of course Bill Belichick 368 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady. But somebody flashed up the numbers of 369 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: Edelman because Adam Schefter tweeted out, oh, the Hall of 370 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Fame cases building for Edelman, and they put Dion Branch's 371 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: numbers up there, and they were just as impressive, if 372 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: not more, as regular season and postseason. It's just the 373 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: flavor of the month thing with Edelman. He just looks 374 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: good right now. There's no question about that. He's a 375 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: tremendous player. But let's not talk Hall of Fame and 376 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: get crazy. As one of the voters, I was thinking, okay, 377 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: that you wish you could give it to the entire defense. 378 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: You couldn't. Somebody said, well, Stephan Gilmore, I said he 379 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: had an interception that we could have caught. And but 380 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Edelman had ten catches one hundred and forty one yards. 381 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Eight were for first downs, a big catch on every 382 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: scoring drive. And I felt better because he turned your 383 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: vote in with like a minute and a half left. 384 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: And I felt better because I was agonizing over a 385 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: defensive player and then Jim Nance asked Tony Romo, who's 386 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: your MVP, and he said Julian Edelman, so that I felt, 387 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, since Romo knows everything, then it was right, yeah, everything. 388 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: And then people the NFL released I guess that no 389 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: defensive player received a vote, and all these defensive players 390 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: around the league and former defensive players were howling about 391 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the injustice of it all. And and Dante high Tower 392 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: had two sacks another hit on the quarterback, but he 393 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: only had two tackles. So it was a great team 394 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: effort by the Patriots, but I thought Edelman had a 395 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: bigger impact on that game than any one player on 396 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: the defense. What were people saying about the Texans to 397 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you as you were making your way around Atlanta. I'm 398 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: glad you asked that. Let's see. Let me start with j. J. Watt. 399 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: People were just amazed at how he was able to 400 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: do what he did this year, and I think most 401 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: of us were, and I think JJ might be considering 402 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: he'd just tell us I don't know what I'm going 403 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: to be able to do. Now. People are, okay, how 404 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: long can he do it? Well, he's gonna be thirty 405 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: in March based on what we saw this year. There's 406 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: no reason he can't do it again. And and Watson, 407 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: they were amazed. They said, how does that guy play 408 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: in a pro ball considering him many times he was hit, 409 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: you think he'd be ready to go a hospital. I said, 410 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: he's in better shape the end of the season than 411 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: he was early in the season. And when he had 412 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: a collapse, a long and a broken rib and a 413 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Bruce Sternham and and people are talking about his toughness 414 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: and how could he have survived behind that offensive line, 415 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: and how they're really pumped about Watson and thinking about 416 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: the possibilities when Brian gained and Bill O'Brien add to 417 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: the offense. Clowney, you know, I told everybody like I 418 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: saw one mock draft that had them taking an edge 419 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: rusher because Clowney's gonna be a free agent. I'm thinking 420 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna be a free agent. He's not going anywhere. 421 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: You think franchise, Yeah, you think they're gonna let him walk. 422 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe they'll get a contract agreement, but I'm 423 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: doubting it. Can I throw you a question right now, 424 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: what would the Patriots do a dead Clowney? Uh? Well, 425 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I think if you win all those Super Bowls and 426 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: then you're willing to take some risk, you take more risk. Yes, 427 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: they they would not pay him. They don't pay anybody. 428 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: Gilmore's I think the highest pay player they got. They 429 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: got him from Buffalo. Remember now, what they got him 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: for two years ago is not all that much money. 431 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: But they get rid of players, so they would probably 432 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: trade him, see if they could get a number one. 433 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: But because Clowney is so disruptive, even though he's great 434 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: against the run, he's a good pass rusher, he's disruptive. 435 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: If say they let him walk or they traded him, 436 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: who else is going to be disruptive If Clowney's not there? 437 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: That gives defense, My offense is more opportunities to worry 438 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: about what I think they need to add another guy, 439 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's my after the offensive line and corner, 440 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: get another edge rusher and just to come off the bench. 441 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: And then Hopkins. It was going around it and I 442 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: don't know why anybody cares what Chado Chosenko says. I 443 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: haven't tweeted him, retweeted him, but he didn't have Hopkins 444 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: in his top three receivers, so people are like, what's 445 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: the matter with him? And I didn't have to talk 446 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: to people and say that pro football falo because had 447 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Hopkins with no drops. People knew it and just about 448 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: everybody he was Hopkins and Brown and now Antoni o'brown. 449 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: It's all negative because of all the controversy, I didn't 450 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: have anybody just didn't go on and on about Hopkins. 451 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: So I believe that he is acknowledged as the premier 452 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL right going into next season. I 453 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: think people who know no And that's why it kind 454 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: of bothered me when that NFL one hundred commercial came out. 455 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, Watt had knee surgery, so that's 456 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: why he was absent from that deal. Otherwise he would 457 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: have been in there, but Hopkins should have been in that. 458 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: I thought over Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham is such a 459 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: huge name and he's a great player. He's in there 460 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: because he's in New York. Yeah, I mean that just 461 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: bothered me. Eli and O'Dell need to be in that commercial. 462 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we had enough current greats so 463 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: to speak, in there. Anyway. Now I'm dis venting, but 464 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing that on a rate. But you 465 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: could also had another receiver. I mean, a lot of 466 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: guys just been in the league one or two years. 467 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: I got a couple of points to make about Watson. 468 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: I want your reaction to them, and another thing about 469 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady that I wanted to get you to respond to. 470 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: It's coming out. It's Texans All Access keeping your company 471 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: on a Thursday evening. Mark vander Mayer and John McClain 472 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: with you Texans Radio. So the general back from the 473 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, back from the Houston Sports Awards last night, 474 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: a Texas Bowl Academy, Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl event 475 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night. A couple of things I promised here John, 476 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: one of them about Deshaun Watson, and you brought it 477 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: up that he might be healthier now that he was 478 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: midway through the season, and that's why he played in 479 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, because you were asked, why is he 480 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: playing in the Pro Bowl? Wasn't he all banged up? 481 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's another thing to point out as 482 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: to why this offense wasn't all that could be this year. 483 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: They went through a stretch of games there where I 484 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: think they were really trying to protect him and they 485 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: were limiting some of the things they might normally do 486 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: because he was banged up. But they were just trying 487 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: to get through it. You know, we talked about it 488 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: the night before last. Can you imagine if the game 489 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville were actually at Seattle or something, he wouldn't 490 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: have been able to go because he couldn't fly. He 491 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to buts up to Seattle. So that's 492 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: a great point I thought about. So they kind of, 493 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, they were fortunate that it was within Stone's throw, 494 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: if you will, to get to that destination, and there 495 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: were just other factors. Just because they got through that 496 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: game didn't mean the next three weren't difficult for him physically. 497 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: So I think that, along with some of the issues 498 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: they had on the offensive line, losing Henderson in Game one, 499 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, that all played a part as to why 500 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: this offense couldn't really flourish the way they wanted it to. 501 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: People act like this thing was Houston Texans year one, 502 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, when they just couldn't score a point, 503 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: when getting a first down was a huge celebration. It 504 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: wasn't like that they got some things done, they just 505 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: weren't able to reach their full potential. I think a 506 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: lot of deals like what happened against Indie for the offense, 507 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: that's a fair quest. That's what people are remembering. And 508 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: one of the things that I was told they did 509 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: it was a great game plan by Matt abert Floss, 510 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: who they didn't want Watson rolling rider left and making 511 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: plays throwing the ball on a run or sliding out 512 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: there and finding receivers. So the outside rushers were more 513 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: disciplines at the edge, and then they thought that they 514 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: could collapse the pocket in his face and that's why 515 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot of his passes were off target. And you 516 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: remember after that game, it's first time all season he 517 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: talked about the protection. He said it's hard to throw 518 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: balls when they're in your face, and I thought that 519 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: was what the Rams. One of the things they did 520 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: was Sue and Donald was collapse that pocket in front 521 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: of Brady, who's the greatest pocket passer in history. He 522 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: just steps up and it's like he's got a wall 523 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: around him. And they did it well enough that he 524 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: was having to get rid of the ball quick and 525 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: throw a bunch of crossing routes. The only one he 526 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: threw deep was a twenty nine yarder to Gronk on 527 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown drive, but they adjusted and Watson if he 528 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: gets time, you know, if he gets golf, was sacked 529 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: thirty three times this year. If they cut his sacks 530 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: in half, it'll still be a lot, but it'll be 531 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: so many, so much some let's see, what is the 532 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: word fewer? So much fewer so yeah, a lot. Last 533 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: the last season, you know, with that playoff game, John, 534 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: I go back to DeAndre Hopkins not being one percent, 535 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: being maybe twenty percent whatever he was. He couldn't move 536 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: in that game. It was just hard to watch him 537 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: trying to be able to make his usual swing. I mean, 538 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: I think that was really difficult because QT had a 539 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: really good game in terms of catch volume. But I 540 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: think they're willing to give not give it to him 541 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: necessarily all day long. But they'll live with that, you know, 542 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: they'll as long as they shut down you're a leading scorer, 543 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're lead guitar player. DeAndre Hopkins. They were 544 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: able to shut him down for the most part. And 545 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: that's what the spell doom for the Houston Texans offense. 546 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: They get all their weapons flying, and look, it's a 547 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: lot to ask for to keep all these guys healthy. 548 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: Are they get a draft a receiver. Oh, they got three, 549 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: but you better have another one who's durable. That's one 550 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: of the things about Numary's time. He had been durable 551 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: and he blows out as achilles. That's just horrible. I'm 552 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: not so sure because whoever comes in here is gonna 553 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: have to come in knowing he's the fourth receiver. But 554 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: his agent will say, yeah, you're the fourth receiver. But 555 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: let's look at will Fuller's injury history and now this 556 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: rookie they had, he missed someone. They missed nineteen games 557 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: between him last year, So maybe he could develop a 558 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Vincent Smith or maybe could be maybe a guy like 559 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Cecil Schwartz comes here near the end of his career 560 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: and helps us like a leader and extra coach, and 561 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: he plays Nate Washington. But they do have to have 562 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: another one. I don't see him drafting somebody unless it's 563 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: someone When the time comes, Brian Gang goes, WHOA, we 564 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: got this guy. He got passed up and we got 565 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: him rated way up here. But uh, yes, you better 566 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: have a backup slot guy. Maybe DeAndre Carter, who was 567 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: a really good waiver claim, and another outside guy behind 568 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: the big two. I still want Carter on this team. 569 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Returning kicks unless they find another option that's that attractive, 570 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: because he looked pretty good doing that. He made you 571 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: hold your breath a lot. But yeah, he was effective. 572 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: He was When they cut Tyler everyone I was surprised. 573 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: And then the Carter came in here and did a 574 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: good job. Special teams did not while we were wailing 575 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: on the offense and the defense. To a certain point, 576 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you realize that the defense had stopped falls on that 577 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: last series, Texans would have to buy Eagles, wouldn't have 578 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: gone in the playoffs, number one overall seeds, and it 579 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: would all could have changed, and just that one drive. 580 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: But I look back on it and I think the 581 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: calls that most people are gonna pick the Colts to 582 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: win the division, I think that's good. I think some 583 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: people will be picking them to the throne them of 584 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs to the throne the Patriots. But I look 585 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: at next season on the Texans want to get younger, 586 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: faster on a cornerback that got good safeties and uh, 587 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: and then I think, you know, they don't need the 588 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Texans don't need a lot. You know, it's not like 589 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: you need help at every position. You're not starting over 590 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: the thing that should be the most concerning is when 591 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: your quarterback is a leading rusher in your last five games, 592 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: and is that because of the backs? Isn't because of 593 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: the line. That's a great point they have to address it. 594 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar Miller pro bowler and everything, but can 595 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: form and do what you hoped he could do in 596 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: his rookie year? Can they draft somebody else or acquire 597 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: somebody else to help out? You know, Alfred Blue is 598 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: who he is so and he's solid and everything special 599 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: teams and he can he can pinch hit for you 600 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: if you will as a running back, but you got 601 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: to find a way to be much more prolific in 602 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: that phase of the game. What about defensively? Look, they 603 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: still have a lot of questions that they have to answer, 604 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if they know the answers 605 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: at this very second. As far as free agents and 606 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: who they're going to resign, you know, we haven't even 607 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: hit free agency yet and haven't hit the combine yet. 608 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: At that well they've got if you think about this, 609 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Angelo Blackson had his best season his contracts, so Christian 610 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: Covington had his best season his contracts up. Brandon Done 611 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: is not unrestricted and he started. It knows people don't 612 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: realize DJ Reader was an end and the starting when 613 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: they had a three man front. So you got those 614 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: three back All four linebackers are under contract safeties, you 615 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: could you got three. What you got is Kareem Jackson. 616 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: Right of all the starters. Kareem is going to be 617 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: thirty one, his contracts up. You know, maybe he comes back. 618 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Whatever they have budgeted, they're not going to break the 619 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: bank for Kareem, even though he can play safety. And 620 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: I noticed that the Super Bowl he said, I love 621 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: to play safety, which is smart marketing. Let all those 622 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: teams know I don't have to play corner. You know, 623 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: Mark hat is most corners. He say, we want you 624 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: to think about safety. Oh no, I know I'm gonna 625 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: play safety. That means you're calling me a curly boy. 626 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: And now they don't know if that's gonna be a 627 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: malcontent problem or Kareem. You know, he'll embrace wherever he plays. 628 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: That Smarty covers the slot and so I'll be surprised 629 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: if he had Matthew or both back, because one of 630 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: them is gonna get it and they gotta do what's 631 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: best for their family. But Matthews like four years younger, 632 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: and so if I had to pick one, being able 633 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: to be versatile like Kareine might get more money on 634 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: the open market than Matthew, even though he's a versatile 635 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: safety who can play corner. All right, can I be 636 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: hot irresponsible? Sports take guy right now? Of course, by hot, 637 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: I meant with the sports take nothing about appearance. Okay, 638 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: So this is in regard to Brady taking less money. 639 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned Gilmore being so high paid on that roster. 640 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: We don't even talk about Brady being that well paid 641 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: compared to the other quarterbacks in the league. He takes 642 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: less money. Would it shock you if after he retires 643 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: they allow Brady to maybe buy a piece of the 644 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: team or do something like that, Because to me, this 645 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: is not talked about enough. And maybe I'm just bitter, 646 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: but I just find it really troubling that he takes 647 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: less money year after year. Tom Brady should be the 648 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: highest paid player in the sport. If your wife was 649 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: worth over one hundred million with EGO, get in your 650 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: way of taking only twenty million a year. I don't 651 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: know if that's that's what it's about, though, This is 652 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: a bit. This is the United States well, if that happens, 653 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna make this. There will be an investigation. Another 654 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: one did yes, because that's a violation of the salary cap, 655 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: whether it's wink wink or not. And they don't. But 656 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: it's all right. It's the franchise. You can you can 657 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: slap them with anything you want and they're a multiple offender. 658 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Didn't that happen to Elway in Bowling that they got 659 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: some kind of fine or loss of draft choice because 660 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the words, uh yeah, it does something. But turned out 661 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: Bowling that promised him like something with the orange crush 662 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: or something like that. So they have to be very 663 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: careful because if that happened, Brady's gonna have a one 664 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: percent piece of the Patriots. Everybody go aha, and the 665 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: NFL would go ahha uh, send out the dogs. I've 666 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: always said this, It would not surprise me if after 667 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: he retires he has some island in the Pacific that's 668 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: named after him that mysteriously appears on the positive side 669 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: of the ledger. I don't know. It's just strange to me. Okay, 670 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: never mind, it just could be old Tommy Brady. His 671 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: ego doesn't get in the way of having to be 672 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: the highest should be the highest paid quarterback in NFL history. 673 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: He should be the highest paid player in NFL history. Yeah, 674 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe in sports history. So tell me this, who do 675 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: you think will be the quarterback of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 676 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: Have you got on the record with any predictions there? 677 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson and I turned in our first mock drafts. 678 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: They're gonna be posted, I think tomorrow, and we're gonna 679 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: have podcast explaining our pigs, and we're gonna pick the 680 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: first round. And already sit in mine end and I 681 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: had Jacksonville not taking a quarterback because I think they're 682 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna sign Nick falls. I think that's why they got 683 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: John d. Philippo, his quarterback coach with Philadelphia. He's very 684 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: tight with now. They they two reasons that Philadelphia wants 685 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: to trade him. Number one, make sure he doesn't go 686 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: to Washington or the Giants. And number two, if they 687 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: let him walk and got a compensed story pick that's 688 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: gonna be way down there at the bottom of the 689 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: third round. Jacksonville picked seventh in the third round, so 690 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: that's a lot of difference if they took their third 691 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: round pick for Nick Foles from the Jaguars. But Jacksonville 692 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: has got to clear up some capro Remember when they 693 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: used to have so much like they when they signed 694 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: on a j boy eight three years ago. Now they're 695 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: up against it and there's talk that they're gonna when 696 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: you see some cuts, you're gonna go okay. That was 697 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: a problem guy. Dad was a problem guy because they 698 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: had problems behind the scenes. All the Rams in any 699 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of difficulty with the salary cap based on all 700 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: the free agency even signed until they signed Jared Goff. 701 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: He'll pick up his option next year and he'll cost 702 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: him twenty million for him. There's a lot of people 703 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: because their offensive line just got abut. H Andrew Witworth, 704 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: the left tackle, is thirty seven, hasn't decided if he's 705 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: coming back, and he according to people with the Rams, 706 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: he played great. But they're center John Sullivan's going to 707 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: be thirty four and their right guard Austin blythe those 708 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: guys they may need to bring in somebody else to 709 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: take their place. But that's about the only thing I 710 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: believe that I had them taken an edge rusher because 711 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: Wade can't have enough pass rushers and Sue Sue's Sue 712 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: had a one year deal They're not going to break 713 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: the bank to bring him back. But I do think 714 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: that the Rams will definitely be a contender, a super 715 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: Bowl contender in the NFC along with I'm gonna I 716 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: think I'm always picked New England, So I think I'm 717 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna pick New Orleans because the Saints should be hungry 718 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: motivated because they was robbed. Yeah, what about the Titans? 719 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: John in Nashville, what do they think of Marcus Mariota 720 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: coming into the offseason? What they think and what they say. 721 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: They promoted their tight ends coach to be offensive coordinator, 722 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: and Rabel did a long, comprehensive study and interviews, and 723 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: then people are like, is that all there is? He's 724 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: been around here forever. But Mike wouldn't have done it 725 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: if he didn't think he could handle it. It's like 726 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien would not have done it for Tim Kelly 727 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: if he didn't know he can handle it. So they got, 728 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, Delaney wall I think I had them taken 729 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: a tight end because Delaney Walker missed all season with 730 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: a knee injury. A lot of people haven't taken a 731 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. The first two pigs last year were linebackers. 732 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: They need to worry about interior offensive linement and more firepower. 733 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: As far as Mariota, their whole deal with him is 734 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: he's had now four different offensive coordinators and it's hard 735 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: to build any kind of stability and consistency when they're 736 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: changing coaches on you all the time. True any think 737 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy consistently. Patriots come here next year, and 738 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: that's a game that's based on where you finished in 739 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: the division first first, playing the first place schedule, and 740 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: it is tough. It is tough. Cults finished seconds, so 741 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: all right, but they play the entire AFC West, so 742 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna see Mahomes anyway. And as far as the 743 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: ASC North goes, it's no break for them because they 744 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: get Pittsburgh and the Texans get Baltimore, so that's not 745 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: too bad. I would rather have Baltimore than Pittsburgh. And 746 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: also they play the NFC South, so you get Atlanta, 747 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Maybe Tampa will be better with everybody's gonna 748 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: see Cam, everybody to see Breeze. Texans have to go 749 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: to the Superdome unfortunately, and and so I'm one. I 750 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: haven't looked to see if the Titans are gonna host 751 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: the Saints, so they have to go to the Superdome. 752 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: But Indie is the team that everybody's gonna say is 753 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: the team to beat. And I think it's gonna be 754 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: a great race. If falls or even Kyler Murray ends 755 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: up at Jacksonville, think about how much more interesting it'll be. 756 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: The Jaguars will be not even Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles, 757 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Ryan Tannehill, all former number one picks who 758 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: had some degree of success, like I want a super Bowl, 759 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna be available. Do you sign him as a backup? 760 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: Do you sign him as a starter tool? Maybe your 761 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: number one picks? Ready? How do you handle those three guys? 762 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't require more interests As far as the Jaguars go, 763 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm fine if they stick with Bortles and the Texans 764 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: play them in long but he's gone. They could start 765 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: David Beckham at quarterback. As far as I'm gonna be 766 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: very happy with that. John, what else is going on 767 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: in the chronicle? You mentioned the mock draft. Yeah, we're 768 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: got mock draft. We're gonna have podcasts. We're gonna have 769 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: mock drafts every week between now and the draft. We'll 770 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: be at the combine. Can't wait. Mark, It's great to 771 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: be back with you. Thank you very much. There's the 772 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: General John McClain. Always a pleasure to visit with Ham 773 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: and I invite you to visit Houston Texans dot com 774 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: for the podcasts because we caught up with Cal McNair 775 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: last night. You heard some of that today on Sports 776 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: Radio six ten. They've been playing the interview or parts 777 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: of it throughout the day. Caught up with Cal and 778 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: Hannah yesterday at the Houston Sports Awards, and also Brian 779 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 1: Cushing that's on the podcast from yesterday's Texans All Access show, 780 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: and also Whitney Merciless. That was great. Andre Ware joined 781 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: us as well, and we had fun talking with Drey. 782 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: Also fun is pointing out how wonderful the Houston Sports 783 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Awards were last night. Getting all those people together that 784 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: room was amazing. Mean Joe Green last year at the event, 785 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: and I salute Patti Smith for all her fine work 786 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: and everybody involved with the county putting this together. But 787 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: last year the guy who kind of put me over 788 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: the top. There were so many amazing people in the room, 789 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: but when I saw George Foreman, for some reason, that 790 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: was the final push over the cliff for me as 791 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: to how star studded the event was. Last night Foreman 792 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: was being inducted. Pastorini was there, of course, but the 793 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: guy who got me was mean Joe Green. Just see 794 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: mean Joe Green there on a night where you're putting 795 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: Pastorini in the Hall of Fame and honoring love You Blue. 796 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: Was terrific. So that was a great event. And if 797 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: you missed it, I'm sure they're gonna do it again 798 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 1: next year. They'll have another Hall of Fame class, they'll 799 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: do the awards. It'll be fun. It'll be in February, 800 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: and we'll keep you posting. All right, that's gonna do 801 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: it for the show tonight, John Harris has you Tomorrow night, 802 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: I'll be on the program. We'll have a lot of 803 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: things to talk about, as we always do. It doesn't 804 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: matter any time of year, all year long, five nights 805 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: a week, six to seven o'clock. We have plenty to 806 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 1: discuss right here on Texans All Access and don't miss 807 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Texans Buzz on Saturday nights eleven o'clock on ABC thirteen. 808 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans