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Speaker 1: hear about Janice, who tell us his first white tale

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Speaker 1: dinner in n This episode has a touch of a

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Speaker 1: The most unusual was the story behind the story and

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Speaker 1: the way that to bow hunters met. All in all,

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Speaker 1: we've got four men that left happy with bucks riding

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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukelem and this is the Bear

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Speaker 1: Grease Podcast, where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant, search

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Speaker 1: for insight and unlikely places, and where we'll tell the

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Speaker 1: story of Americans who lived their lives close to the land.

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Speaker 1: good as the places we explore. It's now the middle

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Speaker 1: It's because he's hard to hunt, but it's attainable, and

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Speaker 1: stay connected to people. We provide for our families with

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Speaker 1: That's why I love these dad Gums stories so much.

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Speaker 1: Our first storyteller is none other than the Latvian eagle himself, Janice,

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Speaker 1: tell me that story. The only the reason I remembered.

430
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: It's mounded and it was, you know, killed Christmas Day night,

431
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to been off back to the family

432
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: for Christmas dinner. At two o'clock. I left the truck

433
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: at the foot of the mountain and just work my

434
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: way up the mountain where the wind was. And then

435
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: I was going back hunting back to the west. Seen

436
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: that the time, I was running out of time, so

437
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I started easing off the mountain, found a good ridge

438
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: to come off, and for some reason, how if I'd

439
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: been trying to slip up on this deer, I could

440
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: have never done it. Conditions was just right eased off

441
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: and I just stopped, and when I looked down in

442
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: the holly to my left and steep Pollard, there was

443
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: a buck grazing on acres. I mean, you know how

444
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: they'll just walk around and move the lives and a

445
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: decent a decent eight point, and I was using that

446
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: muzzle loader Thompson how and then fit to caliber. I

447
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: got a good rest and I didn't try to stop

448
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: him or nothing, that just called him. When he did stop,

449
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: I shot smoke clear. The deer went down. I started

450
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: to reload, and when I started to reload on the

451
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: next ridge, this deer just come up out of his

452
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: bed and standing, and it was it was a long

453
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: range shot for a bit to caliber muzzloader. But I

454
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: couldn't resist because it was it was sit the arn sights.

455
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Yes it was. It was a buck. I've been hunting,

456
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't expect any more. It was that I

457
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: knew the deer was in there, and I didn't know

458
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: how big he was, but I knew he was a

459
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: good one. I've seen him a couple of times when

460
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: I was still hunting. He would just up and maybe

461
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: one jump he's out of sight and I can see

462
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: the wreck. I reloaded, I had a little trouble putting

463
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: those number eleven caps on it. It's not like the

464
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: primers we have now. Anyway, it took me a bit

465
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: to do it, and the deer just stood there. But

466
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: I guess he was watching the smoke from the first shot,

467
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: because I mean just stood up and standing in the bed,

468
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: just stood up. I got a rest. And how far

469
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: was it? Prushing? A hundred yards? Probably just visualizing it now,

470
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: yeah it was, but as standing shot and I had

471
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: arrested and it might have just been my day. But

472
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: when I smoke cleared, when I shot, the deer just

473
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: went down in his bed. That he just got out

474
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: of it. He didn't run off the buck over for

475
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: buck keep down a little bit of thrashing, but I

476
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: mean it just and this deer just went down in

477
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: his bed, didn't kicked nothing. He went down. And I

478
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: knew I was already in trouble because it was after

479
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: two o'clock and I was supposed to be for Christmas

480
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: dinner and here I am up on side of the

481
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: mountain with with bucks on the ground. I wasn't real

482
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: popular when I did get home, but it didn't matter,

483
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, I get over to that buck and started

484
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: counting the points and one to three, four, five, six,

485
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: seven on the right, seven on the left. I had

486
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: a fourteen point down on the ground on Christmas Day

487
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: and it was It was a happy Christmas for me

488
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: and my mother, even though I was late for a

489
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Christmas dinner. My mother said that she would love to

490
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: pay for the deer being mounted if I would use

491
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: her pastor and did, Yeah, you've seen a good time.

492
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Here's a taxi dermot. But mother mounted the deer for me.

493
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: James only has three deer mounted, and I know for

494
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: a fact that two of those mounts came from someone

495
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: insisting to the point of paying for the mount years ago.

496
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: When I asked him about the fourteen point, the first

497
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: thing he said was that his mother paid for the mount.

498
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: It must have meant a lot to him. We're about

499
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: a third of the way through this podcast, and the

500
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: remaining two stories are robust. They're both complicated and involve

501
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: some joy and heartache. You're gonna enjoy them, but I

502
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: think we'll also learn something from him. The next storyteller

503
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: is my friend Andy thrill Kill, also from Western ark

504
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: and Song, and he told me the first part of

505
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the story in two thousand and twelve and ten years

506
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: later in the spring of he told me the last

507
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: part of the story. When I heard it, I knew

508
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: I had to get him to tell it. Let's see,

509
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I got permission to hunt this private piece. Um it

510
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: was a hay lease. We had cows at time about

511
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: every evening and we'd go up there to get a

512
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: bill hay or something. There be just a whole bunch

513
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: of doughs. So we knew that there was a bunch

514
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: of doughs and it was a good place to hunt.

515
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: So eventually I ended up asking for permission, and so

516
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I put it quite a bit of time and effort

517
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: into it. I put a buddy stand up there, and

518
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: it was a really uh it was a killer set

519
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: up because we predominantly get the southwest winds around here,

520
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: and uh, you could come up from the creek, you

521
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: could park down where you pull in, and you'd walk

522
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: up across the creek and up into this little pasture.

523
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: You'd kind of come up a rise into the lower pasture.

524
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: I had the buddy stand right at the mouth of

525
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: that plateau field and it was it just set up

526
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: perfect as you could climb right up and scope it out.

527
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: And see if anything was in there and you could

528
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: climb up in that buddy stand. Andy hunted the property

529
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and killed a nice hundred

530
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: and thirty five inch buck in two thousand and eleven,

531
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and he learned that the deer bedded in a pine

532
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: thicket adjacent to the hay field and often entered the

533
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: field between a ridge and a creek, funneling the deer

534
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: down the dim logging road. Anyhow, the piece of properties

535
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: proved to be like a really good piece of property.

536
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: And I had killed that buck in two thousand eleven

537
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: on that field. In two thousand and ten, I had

538
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: killed the very first really what i'd call it, big buck.

539
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I had read a book called Mapping Trophy Bucks by

540
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: Brad Herndon, and I just said, teach you how to

541
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: read topos and that kind of stuff and where to

542
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: set up based on different to biography. And it was

543
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: like my first introduction to map reading and hunting with

544
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: a strategy versus just kind of peddling around and looking

545
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: for sign basically because Herndon's theories and not really he

546
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: don't hunt sign. Herndon's kind of like, you know, the

547
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: signs typically in the bottoms were it's beautiful and you

548
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: want to hunt, but the winds never consisted. So he

549
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: was always a big saddle guy. He was always get

550
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: on the top where the winds consistent, because even if

551
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: the signs not there, if it's close, eventually they're gonna

552
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: slip through that that saddle. And so I adopted that theory.

553
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: And then I learned about Dan Infalt, and I learned

554
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: about his Mountain Hunting series and how he uses thermals

555
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: and he talks about how they bed based on north

556
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: and south winds. Man, if that wasn't the revolutionary because

557
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: it was like you took Brad Herndon's strategy of just

558
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: used hunting the saddles and that kind of stuff, Well,

559
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: then you learned wind to hunt those saddles based on

560
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the wind, like because in Falts theories about okay, if

561
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: it's a south wind, that'd be bet on the north side,

562
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: or if it's a north wind, that'd be better on

563
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: the south side. And he grew up in a hunting family,

564
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until he was an adult that he

565
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: started to study about deer and started becoming successful. And

566
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: he's become very successful. Lots of Andy's hunting is done

567
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: on public land, and he's learned how to kill mature bucks. Anyhow,

568
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: it was during this time that he started getting pictures

569
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: of a unique racked young deer. I had actually got

570
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: pictures of him in two thousand um eleven, and you

571
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: could tell he was only like I mean, I'm not

572
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: trying to be like dear expert here, but you could

573
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: tell he was young. Dear. You know, i'd say three

574
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: and a half, just because he had a humongous like

575
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: i'd say, a hundred thirty inch rack. He had kickers,

576
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: and and he was trashy, but he was he was

577
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: young looking. I was like, holy cow, you just don't

578
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: see that around here. You could see the real potential

579
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: in it. And I would have killed him that year

580
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: if I had had a chance, no question about it.

581
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I just I don't know that I could have passed

582
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: a month anyhow, Thankfully I didn't. And I'm certain that

583
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: this is the same dear in two thousand twelve, because

584
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: he he had grown to like a hunt five is

585
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: what I estimate close pushing one fifty had like thirteen

586
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: points like a mainframe ten with bunch of kickers, had

587
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: a split G three with the kicker, like a five

588
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: four or five inch kicker coming off that that g

589
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: two there had a split eye guard on one side.

590
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Just a really impressive deer. But his pictures were always

591
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: at night coming out into that field. And uh, I

592
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: knew that bottom that was right off to the west

593
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: of that plateau field. The back side of that there

594
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: was a huge thicket of like sweet gum, and it

595
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: had just grown up, used to be filled, and they

596
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: let that kind of progressively get overtaken, and it was

597
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: probably two acres, but it was just thicket, and I

598
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: knew that's where the deer bedded, and they would come

599
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: out of the back side of that into that bottom,

600
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: which was a wooded bottom along the rid of the creek.

601
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: They would just come out of there, and I knew

602
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the bucks would bet up in that pine thinking on

603
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: the hill. But all the stuff I had read from

604
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: Herndon just had me scared to death to get down

605
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: in an area that there was a bottom that I

606
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: knew the wind swirled because I tried to hunt it

607
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: before and it all always booger it up and always

608
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: end up swirling. What I had figured out by the

609
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: couple of times i'd went in there and figured I

610
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: had blown. It was you get in real early on

611
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: a calm morning, eight thirty nine o'clock, you can have

612
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: a good pretty much no wind, but by eight or

613
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: nine o'clock, the first swirl of the wind, you feel

614
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: you need to get down and leave. But you can

615
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: get like an hour or two of decent hunting in

616
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: a blair area that doesn't get good wind if it's

617
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: that morning. And he decided to make an aggressive move

618
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: based upon what he had learned about the short window

619
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: of time that you get some good wind or no

620
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: wind in the morning. He was doing it because the

621
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: buck just wasn't hitting the field in the daytime, and

622
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: the deer were betting off the property in that pine thicket.

623
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: In early November, the conditions became just right for him

624
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: to make his big move. It had rained, so it

625
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: was like perfect. I mean, it was like not super cold,

626
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: it's probably forty degrees and it had light rain all

627
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: night coming in no oven or second or something. It

628
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: was money. So I was just all excited, and I

629
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: was in that stand before daylight, and so I had

630
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: my stand just right on that logging road. It was

631
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: just kind of sitting there thinking probably not gonna happen,

632
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, It's just you always think it ain't gonna

633
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: happen until it happens. And um, sitting there, it was

634
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: probably thirty minutes or so after daylight, a little yearling

635
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: buck walked right down that trail right underneath. I was like, okay,

636
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: but nonetheless, had the rain had just quit, and it's

637
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: overcast and foggy next to the creek. I mean, it's

638
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: just a dream scenario, really, But anyhow, I'm sitting there

639
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: and sure enough I look and there he is coming

640
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: down the road. And I wasn't sure it was him

641
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: because all the pictures I had were old flash camera

642
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: and so his hornes were like black brown like you see.

643
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: I guess just the dart and the wet that were chocolate.

644
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: He's just walking on the road, and I started like

645
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: really getting kind of amped up. I only had my

646
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: stand about sixteen feet up, and when you got a

647
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: bucket that caliber below, it feels about like you're about

648
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: eight foot up. You feel like you'd reach out and

649
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: grab him or jump on him, and so I get

650
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: drawn back. It was just a rookie mistake kind of.

651
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, not that I was necessarily a rookie, but

652
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: as first bow hunting, I'm really that's probably my least

653
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: seasoned weapon. As far as what I'm good with. I

654
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: like my rival, like what I like my muzzle loader.

655
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: I bow hunt because that's the only thing open at

656
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: the time, but I like weapons that give me the

657
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: biggest chance. When he hit that hole, I just shot

658
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: and he was walking and so where what would have

659
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: been double lung if one step made a deliver, And

660
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: that's what it happened, is zipped through him and he

661
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: bolted over there about ten yards. And of course I've

662
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: learned something else from that, as I always kept my

663
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: quiver off and twice it's burned me on that buck.

664
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: Also right here, he's standing over their fifteen yards, quartering away,

665
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking he's fixing to start Wobbling's what I

666
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: was hoping for. And then he just took his tail

667
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: and he started to walk away, and he was going

668
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: a little bit northeast and then he kind of made

669
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: a turn back to the southeast the direction he came

670
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: up back towards the pine thicket, and he gets down

671
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: and finds his arrow. He was using a fixed three

672
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: blade head and it's covered in dark blood, which he

673
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: knows his liver blood. He knows he needs to wait

674
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: to track the deer, so he calls in some help

675
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: and they wait seven hours before they take up the track,

676
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: which was good. What would you have done in this scenario?

677
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: I backed out and the guy I was talking about, Alex,

678
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I called him because he's my blood tracker. Because I'm

679
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: color blind, I can't I can't blood trailer. I can't

680
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: see red. And so he trailed it, and his last

681
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: blood trail showed a hook going back up, even more

682
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: so than what I had visually saw him. And so

683
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: that was our last blood. And at the time I

684
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: had a friend. He had a dog. He brought that

685
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: dog and had a GPS collar on it. He didn't

686
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: he didn't track on a leash. He just put a

687
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: GPS collor on like a coon dog, and he would

688
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: let it run, and he said when it stopped, that's

689
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: when he found the deer. He got over in the

690
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: neighbor's path astard well, and he looked over around the pond,

691
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: and so I called the neighbor went over there, and

692
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: when I circled that pond, I found looked like intestines,

693
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: a little piece of intestine on the damn of the pond,

694
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: and I was certain that that bucket somehow got in there.

695
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking, but I donned

696
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: a wet suit, a bar to Buddy's wet suit, and

697
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I got out there ended up being like chest deep,

698
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: and I just walked around and it was spring clear.

699
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: You could see the bottom. He was in the kayak

700
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: and I was in a wet suit. We were paddling

701
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: around that pond looking for that deer. We never found it.

702
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: And I walked all them tickets up down the creeks,

703
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: and I kept looking for years. For years, I mean years,

704
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I hunted and just would walk them ravines and think

705
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stumble across this thing. They couldn't find the

706
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: buck Andy put in massive amounts of effort grid searching,

707
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: He used a tracking dog. He swam a pond in

708
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: a wet suit, but like a vapor, the deer vanished.

709
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: To this day, Andy knows that if he had grunt

710
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: stopped the deer, he'd have made a good shot. What

711
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: mistake have you made in the deer woods that you

712
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: wish you could redo? Anyway? Yeah, that was November two

713
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve. And I went through ten years of

714
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: just like heartbreak and just be driving down the road

715
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: and be thinking, just all right, just be thinking in

716
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: my head. That's all it took. Like that's all I lacked.

717
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: That was it. That's what's what stood between me and

718
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: and killing that deer. Because if I would have stopped that, dear,

719
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: I would have made a good shot. It was a

720
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: chip shot. But uh, I can't make five yard walking shots.

721
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: I don't even want to try. Sure I can if

722
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: I had to, but you're gonna screw up half of them,

723
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: at least probably more than that. So I just, uh,

724
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: that taught me a lesson that day. I do not

725
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: take a walking shot. I won't do it. So ten

726
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: years later, April, me and my boy Way, I think

727
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: it was the youth turkey hunt, and we hit the side.

728
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: I took him up to that farm. There was always

729
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: usually a couple of turkeys that would run around there,

730
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: and uh so we went up there. Didn't have any

731
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: luck that morning, and we walked the creek. We got

732
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: on the creek, you just started playing around, picking up

733
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: rocks and kicking around. Got way off pretty far away

734
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: from the our truck, and I said, well, let's just

735
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: let's just cut over this heel right here. I cut

736
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: across there. When I did, that's when I stumbled across

737
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the deer that I had shot in November two thousand twelve.

738
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: And I thought at the time, as I said, oh,

739
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: somebody's sick. Somebody's sick over that deer. And uh, it

740
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: turns out I was sick over that deer for the

741
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: last ten years. And uh, sure enough, as I walked

742
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: up on it. The deer that I had shot in

743
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve had a distinct amount of kickers.

744
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: He had like a four inch kicker that came off

745
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: the G two the left G two he had to

746
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: split G three on the left antler, had a hooked

747
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: eye guard on the right side, and it had mutes

748
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: of all that. It had the squirrels that chewed off

749
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: a significant amount of it, but enough intact that you

750
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: could tell all of those different characteristics were undeniable. So

751
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: we grabbed that deer and I just sat there in

752
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: all and as we were walking out or my son

753
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: said he said, hey, Dad, that's a that's the tenure track.

754
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: And I just thought, that's exactly what that is. As

755
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: a tenure track. Jail right there. We've been looking for

756
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: that dear a long time. Uh, the deer ended up

757
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: being I pulled up my on X and I did

758
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: a straight line from my tree stand to where I

759
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: found the dere and ended up being about two seventy

760
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: yards and uh, he had went back right a proximately

761
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: where I thought he went back. One of the reasons

762
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: we never found him is just the fact that the

763
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: dog had went a different direction. That it all came

764
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of focused our energy that direction because we're thinking,

765
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: he's surely gonna find it, and there's no Really, it's

766
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: not his fault that he didn't. There's a meal in

767
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: different factors, including it was over twenty four hours when

768
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: he finally came up. You hate to hear a story

769
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: of a wounded buck getting away. This isn't good, But

770
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: in telling that we can learn a bunch of stuff.

771
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: The moral of the story was don't shoot a walk

772
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: and deer, but grunt stop him. Secondly, in the excitement

773
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of the track job, there were areas that they overlooked

774
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: when grid searching, but it wasn't for lack of trying,

775
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: and the partial intestine on the bank of the pond

776
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: is still a mystery. Perhaps it was the remnants of

777
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: a hawk kill, who knows, but it didn't have anything

778
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: to do with the buck. I think sometimes we're so

779
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: desperate to find a clue we can make one out

780
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: of something that isn't I know I've done that. And

781
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: for the record, and he didn't want to make it

782
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: sound like he was blaming the dog for not finding

783
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: the deer. The old pooch did the best he could

784
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: with a very tough track, and and he was grateful

785
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: for his buddy that drove so far to come and

786
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: help him track. But they did put too much stock

787
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: in the direction the dog went, which was the total

788
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: wrong direction. Surprisingly, the rack is in decent shape for

789
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: it laying on the forest floor for ten years. That's

790
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: the most surprising part of this story to me. And

791
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: clearly the buck knew just where to go to bed down,

792
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: beyond the normal travel patterns of humans because nobody had

793
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: been there in ten years. Thanks for sharing your heartbreak

794
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: with us, Andy, And I want to say something about

795
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: liver shot deer I've recovered I think a hundred percent

796
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: of the deer that I've shot in the liver You

797
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: need to give them time. Just like Andy, did, and

798
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: typically they're gonna be inside of three hundred yards. They're

799
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: not gonna leave a ton of blood, but they're gonna

800
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: leave some. So the main thing is give them time

801
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: and you may have to do some grid surge. Our

802
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: final story exemplifies a truth as old as time, and

803
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: it's that there are always two sides to any story,

804
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: and the perspective of the other side is often hard

805
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: to understand unless you put yourself in their shoes and

806
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: actually listen. The next storyteller is named Harvey Rainbolt. Originally

807
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: from North Louisiana, he moved to northwest Arkansas in two

808
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven. Harvey is gonna tell about his hunt

809
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: for a world class white tale, but we'll get the

810
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: rare opportunity to hear the other side of a story

811
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: from another hunter that Harvey didn't know existed. Here's Harvey Rainbolt.

812
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I grew up in a in a house that if

813
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: you didn't kill it, catch it, or grow it, you

814
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: just about didn't eat. My dad was probably one of

815
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: the US outdoor sportsman's that I know all around fishing hunting.

816
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: He was really amazing and he taught me a lot.

817
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: We grew up in a small community that everybody knew

818
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: each other. And when you do that, sports hunting, fishing

819
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: is all competitive. That would translate easily over entire deer camp.

820
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: And also at deer camp, we would always have magazines

821
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: that have these just enormous dere in there, you know,

822
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: And when I grew up in South Arkansas and North Louisiana,

823
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: you did not see there like that. You're sitting there

824
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: looking at a hundred sixty two deer and these magazines

825
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: and you're a kid and you're like wow. And it

826
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: never failed. There would always be somebody that would come

827
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: by and say, I don't think you could hold it

828
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: together if one like that walked out. And that's stuck

829
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: in my head for a year. Well, life throws you

830
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: a curve ball. Two thousand and ten and I leave

831
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: South Arkansas and I moved to Northwest Arkansas. Now left

832
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: pine fields and thickets. They moved into an area that

833
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: had mountains and ridges and oak trees and terrain. I

834
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: had never hunted, so I was definitely out of my element.

835
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: So for two thousand and ten, I didn't do a

836
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: whole lot of hunting, found a little bit of public ground,

837
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: trying to learn how to hunt up here, and then

838
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven, I got really lucky and

839
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: found about a fifty acre plot with the house on

840
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: it that had been abandoned for seven years. This is

841
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: where Harvey's story really begins. In late two thousand and eleven,

842
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: he ends up moving into the house and gaining permission

843
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: to hunt the abandoned fifty acres And anybody that knows

844
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: whitetails knows that that's a good scenario. And in an

845
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: odd twist, this property is also where our other hunter

846
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: enters the story, and the other hunter is me. So

847
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: I had access to a small piece of property, and

848
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: directly to the north of that property was a fifty

849
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: acre abandoned farm. And I knew that this place had

850
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: been abandoned. I knew the people that used to live

851
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: there and didn't anymore. It was grown up, it was big, timber,

852
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: and it was a tough decision for me, But I

853
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: knew some of these neighbors used it kind of like

854
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: it was their own. But I had decided I was

855
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: not gonna hunt that property because I didn't have permission

856
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: to hunt it. And I killed the biggest deer that

857
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: I ever killed, and I watched it come off of

858
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: that property onto the property that I could hunt, and

859
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: I killed that deer in two thousand seven, and so

860
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: this fifty acre farm was holding older age deer and

861
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: had become a sank. You wary When I say it

862
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: was a hard decision not to hunt the land, I

863
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: hope you know what I mean. Nobody lived there, nobody cared,

864
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: and I knew it was a killer property and it

865
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: would have been easy to justify hunting it, but I didn't.

866
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: I had actually killed two big deer that I had

867
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: watched walk off of that place, and it had basically

868
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: become my own personal buck sanctuary. But what I didn't

869
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: know was that a dear killing, seasoned hunter named Harvey

870
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Rainbolt was now living there. It's early October two thousand

871
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: and twelve. Here's Harvey. I remember on October eight it

872
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: was my dad's birthday. He wouldn't had passed, and I

873
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: called my mom and she asked me. She said, you know,

874
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: have you even been hunting? And I said, no, it's

875
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: we Your dad would be really disappointed. Well, I said, yeah,

876
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: you're right. So the next day I get up and

877
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was like ten years ago to almost today.

878
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: It was the ninth today is what the eleven. It

879
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: was a day just like this. It was beautiful, it

880
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit warm, but the trees had done

881
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: started turning, and I'm like, you know, and I want

882
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: to go. I should. The day before on the reason

883
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: I called my mom is the day before I'm on

884
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: his birthday. I had come down that hill and I

885
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: saw a really good buck standing out there in that field.

886
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, looking back on it now, probably a

887
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty inches here. So the next day, long story,

888
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: I go and get my hunting license. Hadn't even bought him.

889
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: So I'll go to Walmart and I'm standing there talking

890
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: to the guy, and of course up here I have

891
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: an accent, so immediately he's like, where are you from?

892
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: And I told him, you know, South Arkansas and he said,

893
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, me too. And we talked about the first

894
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: one thing another, and he said, look, I'm gonna tell

895
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: you something. These guys up here don't tell you this,

896
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: but you know back home, you have to hunt those deer.

897
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: These deer up here, if you see one on a

898
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: trail today, the odds are he'll be on that trail.

899
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: He's going in to wherever he's going on the same trail,

900
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: not like they do back home. I'm like, really, and

901
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, yeah, they're pretty pretty reliable. I'm like, okay, Well,

902
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: I go back to the house and I don't really

903
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: give it too much of a thought. I grabbed my

904
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm gonna go sit in this observation stand,

905
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: uh look out, and it's beautiful, you know. I'm sitting

906
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: there looking out across the field. I'm there just a

907
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: few minutes and a couple of days, and a small

908
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: book that I hadn't seen come out and they come

909
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: to me about thirty yards in front of me, uh

910
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: to a little feature that I had put out, and

911
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is gonna be a really good day.

912
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm glad I came. It was almost like the guy

913
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: from Walmart and knew what he was talking about. I

914
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: look up after being there for forty minutes and I

915
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: can see a big body deer moving down the hill

916
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: and I'll be darn, it's that book. I'm like, oh man,

917
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: this is actually Mike fessing to happen. He's heading in

918
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: the right direction, and to my right there was a

919
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: big hickor nut tree solid gold leave now, but you

920
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: could see through it. He came out straight in front.

921
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: And when he came out into the field, I noticed

922
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: that he looked postured up, like he was angry about something.

923
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: Went over to a locust tree and literally just started

924
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: wearing it out in the middle of that field. Well,

925
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: instead of coming straight to me and to the feeder

926
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: and too the doze that were in front of me,

927
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: he goes to my right and you could tell that

928
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: this deer was just staring at something over here to

929
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: my right. And the next thing I heard was the

930
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: loudest clash of horns that I've ever heard. But as

931
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: I looked through those limbs on that tree, I saw

932
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: more horn and antler flashing, and more hide and more

933
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: white flags flying than I have ever seen. I mean,

934
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: they were getting after it. They were not playing, And

935
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: you could tell that the deer that he had met

936
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: up with was massive Compared to him. I couldn't tell

937
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot about him. All I could tell is every

938
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: time a hit, you could just see a big, wide

939
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: white rack just thrashing this deer. I'm like, oh man, uh,

940
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think. I have never seen

941
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: anything like that, and I still hadn't got a good

942
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: clear view of him, but I could tell he was huge.

943
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: I could tell he was huge, Harvey said. I'd say

944
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: that be a good descriptor. It's important to remember that

945
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: this is Harvey's very first hunt on the property. That's

946
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: kind of mind blowing to me. And the wildest part

947
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: of this story, and what he wouldn't have known as

948
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: he saw glimpses of the wide white rack buck was

949
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: that the bow hunter just south of him knew every

950
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: point in nuance of that deer's rack, but not because

951
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: he'd ever seen him with his own eyes. He had

952
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: known the deer since it grew its first discernible rack.

953
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: He had named the deer. Everyone in his family knew

954
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 1: its name. He knew where the buck lived, he knew

955
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: when the buck would you up on camera. He had

956
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: spent unaccountable hours trying to kill the deer, and he

957
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: knew the bucks unbelievable history of antler development, and that

958
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: he was me to this day. If someone told me

959
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: this story that you're about to hear, I'd probably call

960
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: him a liar or at least mistaken. But this is

961
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: exactly how it happened. I want to introduce you to moose,

962
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: and to do it, we need to go back to

963
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. In the summer of two thousand

964
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: and eight, I got a picture of a young deer

965
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: that I believed was two and a half years old,

966
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: that had a very unusual rack. He had a big

967
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: section of palmation on his right antler that it looked

968
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: like a miniature moose antler, And so I called this

969
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: dear moose. But it's two and a half years old.

970
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: And when a dere's that age around here, I mean

971
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna live to maturity, it's really just a gamble.

972
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna get hit on the road, killed by another hunter.

973
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: These this is not an area where we're managing for

974
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: deer at all. But I took note of the deer

975
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: well that winter I started getting pictures of the deer

976
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: and he was bone skinny. And when I say bone skinny,

977
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean literally you can see his hips, you can

978
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: see his ribs, and what had happened to him. It

979
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: was very clear he had broke his right front foot

980
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: such that around his hoof it was swelled up, probably

981
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: bigger than a coke can. And this deer, in my mind,

982
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: was undoubtedly going to die. I had a tag in

983
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: my pocket, and I thought, man, I'm gonna put this

984
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: deer out of his misery. You know. It's a cool

985
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: little rack, and I'm gonna kill this deer. So I

986
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: tried with all my might to kill that deer, and

987
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't kill him. Well, the season comes and goes,

988
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think much of it, and I imagine

989
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: the deer's did well. Two thousand nine rolls around and

990
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I put out some cameras on a food plot, some

991
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: cameras over some feed and just have a couple of

992
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: nice deer coming in. Nothing major. But in December two

993
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: thousand nine, I get pictures of a ten point buck

994
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: that has a kicker, and the deer looks oddly familiar,

995
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: and I recognize it to be the deer that I

996
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: thought was dead and assumed was dead. But this deer,

997
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: identified by his horn structure but mainly by the shape

998
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: of his broken leg, had a very distinct broke leg.

999
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: And this is moose. And I'm shocked because he has

1000
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: turned into a really nice probably a hundred and twenty

1001
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: five inch ten point buck that's now three and a

1002
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: half years old. That year, I had killed two deer,

1003
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: and so I did not have any buck tags, so

1004
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even go after the deer, but I took

1005
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: note of him and got a lot of pictures of

1006
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: him that went two thousand ten rolls around and I

1007
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: noticed a trend that I did not get pictures of

1008
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: this buck until after the rut. And sure enough, just

1009
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: like clockwork, I could almost tell you the day. It

1010
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: was usually around novembert and moose shows up. And this

1011
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: year he is a what I believe to be a

1012
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five in ten point with stickers. The

1013
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: deer is now four and a half years old and

1014
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: just a beautiful deer, and he does he know he

1015
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: still has the distinct broke leg, but he also now

1016
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: has apparently broken his back leg too. He has a big,

1017
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: huge knot on his back leg. I take note of

1018
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: the deer, and in my drivings and in going around

1019
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: as a hunter, does I see the buck about a

1020
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: mile away one night on the side of the road

1021
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: underneath this street lights of a road, and I recognize

1022
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: that is moose and he's a mile away from where

1023
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting pictures of him. And I know there's a

1024
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: little farm right back there close to where this steers at,

1025
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: and I just know that that deer is on the farm.

1026
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: So I go and I write a letter to the landowner.

1027
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: I just looked up the guy was before I had

1028
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: before on X was around. I looked up the guy's address,

1029
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: his name, sent him a letter, introduced myself and told

1030
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: him that I was after a specific deer that I

1031
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: believed was on his property and I'd like to bow hunt.

1032
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I just laid it all out for him. I sent

1033
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: it to him, didn't get a response, and so a

1034
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: week later I end up going to this man's house

1035
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: and going to his door introducing myself. I'm the guy

1036
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: that sent you the letter, and he he agrees to

1037
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: let me hunt his property, and I end up becoming

1038
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: good friends with this family. So late in two thousand

1039
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: and ten, I start now have to data points of

1040
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: where this buck is, and I started hunting him down

1041
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: on this other farm a mile away, and I start

1042
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: getting pictures of the deer on that place almost immediately.

1043
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: In Arkansas, we can hunt deer until the end of February,

1044
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: and by now it's January. I'm starting to see this

1045
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: deer on camera fairly regularly, and I know that in

1046
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: low temperature times. These deer will come out and feed

1047
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: during the daylight in this area if it's if it

1048
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't get above thirty two degrees. So I was targeting

1049
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: the super brutal cold days and I was even doing

1050
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: all days sits and I hunt the deer and actually

1051
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: have the deer come into twenty five yards one time

1052
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: when he was four and a half years old, ten

1053
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: point and he sees me up in the tree he

1054
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: runs off. I continue to hunt the deer the rest

1055
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: of the year, and one day, I believe it was

1056
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: January the seven, I see a deer limping across the

1057
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: field with a group of doze and I put up

1058
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: my bin nose and I realized it's moose and he's

1059
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: shed his antlers, and moose had an incredibly distinct gate.

1060
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: He limped in the back, and he limped in the front.

1061
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: The deer. It was a miracle that he was even alive.

1062
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: It was a miracle he could jump fences. And I

1063
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 1: think this deer is probably gonna die. He won't live

1064
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: to be five and a half. Well, that day in

1065
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: the stand, when I saw him coming across that field,

1066
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: I literally climbed down from the stand mid afternoon and

1067
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: went home. My season was over hunting for moose. Fast

1068
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: forward to two thousand and eleven and I get a

1069
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: picture of a clean racked, probably hundred and thirty five

1070
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: inch eight point and it's a big, beautiful deer and

1071
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: I immediately recognized it. But I did not believe what

1072
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: I was seeing, because usually these deer get older, they

1073
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: get more non typical, they get bigger. This deer had

1074
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: become extremely typical. It was a hundred percent moose based

1075
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: upon his broke leg in the front, broke leg in

1076
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: the back, and I kid you not, now he had

1077
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: a third break on his other front foot. I don't

1078
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: know how this deer was breaking legs, but he had

1079
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: broke three different legs, and the deer is now dropped

1080
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: down to a hundred and thirty five inch deer. I

1081
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: hunt the deer in two thousand eleven and never see him.

1082
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: I get pictures of this deer in multiple places. I

1083
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: had now gained access to another place to hunt. Basically,

1084
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: this deer was running about a mile long corridor and

1085
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: I was getting pictures of him in several places, but

1086
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: I never could see the deer in the daylight. He

1087
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: was just a master at evading me. So two thousand

1088
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: and eleven now comes and goes. The deer is five

1089
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: and a half. Now we enter two thousand and twelve

1090
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: on a new property. I was starting to get pictures

1091
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: of these deer in the summer. I kind of found

1092
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: where they were at. And in August I get a

1093
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: picture on my camera and I call my father in

1094
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: law and I said, I think I've got a two

1095
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: hundred inch deer on camera, a wild non typical. And

1096
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking to him on the phone as I'm

1097
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: looking at the photos like I just got him. And

1098
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: as I'm looking and see more and more photos of

1099
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: this deer, I recognize the deer. It is moose. And man,

1100
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to tell you right now that if you

1101
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: walked up to me on the street and told me

1102
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: the sequence of antler development on this buck, I would

1103
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: tell you that you were wrong. I would say, that's

1104
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: not possible. You're you're mixing up deer. That's not the

1105
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: same deer. He didn't go from a hundred forty five

1106
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: inch ten point to a clean hundred and thirty five

1107
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: in eight point two now a potentially hundred and eighty

1108
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: inch plus non typical. I would have said, you are wrong,

1109
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: my friend. But I'm gonna tell you that's exactly what happened.

1110
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: Moose turned into a freak show buck. And the deer

1111
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: is now six and a half years old. I am ecstatic.

1112
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. This is now the fourth year quest after

1113
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: this deer. I mean, I'm I'm eight up with this deer.

1114
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: And at the time in my career in the outdoor industry,

1115
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: I was focusing on white tails. I kind of got

1116
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: my start in the outdoor world writing for North American

1117
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Whitetail and writing about bow hunting deer, which really, like

1118
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: I said before, was my first love and still is,

1119
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,959
Speaker 1: I mean a massive part of my life. To say

1120
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: that this deer had kind of engulfed me would be

1121
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: an understatement. Well, I felt like I knew where this

1122
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: deer was living. And on in October the eight I

1123
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: go into this property and I'm gonna hang a stand

1124
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: in a spot that I had never been and it'says

1125
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: just a just a small, little, probably two acre thicket,

1126
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: and I know more than set foot in that thicket,

1127
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: and I jumped Moose. He was within fifteen yards of me,

1128
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: and I watched Moose run to the southeast, which is

1129
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: directly towards where I first got pictures of the deer

1130
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: in the abandoned farm. The only time I ever saw

1131
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: moose wearing his six and a half year old headgear

1132
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: was on October eight, and he was headed towards the

1133
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: abandoned farm, or at least I thought it was abandoned.

1134
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: Turns out it wasn't anymore. Now we're going to jump

1135
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: back in the stand with Harvey on October the nine,

1136
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, on his first hunt on this

1137
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: fifty acres, He's just seen a hundred and thirty inch

1138
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: deer and a giant fighting right in front of him.

1139
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: He's in shock, so they're fighting. They would pause for

1140
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: just a second. The deer that are here in front

1141
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: of me at thirty yards or keyed in on them.

1142
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: So I'm in the stand, I can do whatever I

1143
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: want to. No deer or even looking in my direction.

1144
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know what to do. I

1145
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: don't normally do anything this early in the hunt, but

1146
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: I need these deer to come to me, and they're fighting,

1147
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: So what do I do? Man? I dig in my

1148
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: bag and I pulled out a grunt call. I've never

1149
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: used a grunt call that early. I don't have anything

1150
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: to lose, And well, I hit it when they stopped,

1151
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: and I could see them pause and kind of move

1152
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: in my direction. So I hit again. When I did

1153
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: the smaller book, here he come. I can see him.

1154
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: So I went ahead and got stood up, got ready.

1155
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: They were gonna be at like anywhere between fifteen to

1156
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: twenty yards, So I got up, I got ready, and

1157
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: I could see the other deer coming behind him. And again,

1158
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean I was looking through all that stuff, so

1159
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell just how big he was. But you

1160
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: still tell, oh my, this is something like I've never

1161
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: seen before. I'll get ready and I'm locked on to

1162
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: where these deer fisting to come out. I even I

1163
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: don't even look over to my right anymore. I'm just

1164
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: locked onto this one spot. And the first deer come out,

1165
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: and yeah, he was a good deer, and any other

1166
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: time I would have shot him. He come out broadside.

1167
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: He looked away from me and towards the dose. It

1168
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: was perfect there he wasn't. I'm all I'm thinking, is

1169
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: that other one that's fitting to do the same thing. Well,

1170
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: I was so buried into it when this deer walked

1171
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: towards the other. When he had his head going away

1172
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: from me, and the big deer came out, I was

1173
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: already drawn back, and when he was almost facing dead

1174
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: towards me, and I'm at full draw, and I hadn't

1175
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: been holding it for a minute, and I have one choice.

1176
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: I have to either shoot this deer or I have

1177
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: to let down once something that is fishing to give,

1178
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: and he's feeling to be gone. I know him for

1179
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: a fact. That's the first and only shot that I have, however,

1180
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: taken on a deer that was full frontal like that.

1181
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: And all I could think of was that little twist

1182
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: of hair right there at the base. That's my aiming point.

1183
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: That's where it has to be. So I just buried

1184
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: in in there and let it go. When I let

1185
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: it go, the deer reared back like a horsewood and

1186
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: twisted and turned to the right and stopped for just

1187
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: a second, and I thought I had missed. Now the

1188
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: grass was waist chest high out there, and and then

1189
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: I see him walked back the way he came from.

1190
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: And I see his tail wing every once a while,

1191
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: see it rings. One time I've wondered before where I

1192
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: was at the instant that moose got shot. At the time,

1193
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: I was running a landscape company, so I was probably

1194
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: working in the grand scheme of life. Killing or not

1195
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: killing a deer isn't a big deal, but on a

1196
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: micro level, and in my world, this was a big deal. Honestly,

1197
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: it was too big of a deal. And my four

1198
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: year quest had just come to an abrupt stop and

1199
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it. So I followed a little

1200
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: bit of blood through all that and and got to

1201
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: the edge and I'm starting to see a little bit

1202
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: more blood, and I look up there and there's this

1203
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: deer about yards inside of the wood, butted up against

1204
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: this big moss covered rock bluff, and it just to

1205
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: see him laying there, it was unbelievable. That was the

1206
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: first time I actually got a look, and I was

1207
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: almost scared to walk up there. Man, you know, I've

1208
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. So I stayed there for

1209
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: a while, yeah, uh, excuse me, talked to Dad for

1210
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: a minute. I got back to the back to my truck.

1211
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: Just adrenaline will make you sick at your stomach, testify

1212
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: it will. So I get back to the truck and

1213
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm just sick I'm so happy. It was pandemonium, absolute pandemonium.

1214
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: None of us they ever seen a deer like that.

1215
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: And it's still at the moment, it's overwhelming when you

1216
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: do something like that and you answer a lifelong question,

1217
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, and it did in that moment it dawned

1218
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: on me. But you just answered your question. Not only

1219
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: did you take it when it mattered. That's a difficult

1220
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: shot to take, you know. So it was a completion

1221
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: to a whole life of wondering are you good enough?

1222
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: Can you really come through when it matters? The deer

1223
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: would end up growth scoring a hundred and eight and

1224
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: three eights inches with thirty three scoreable points in many

1225
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: points that were under an inch that didn't count. I

1226
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: think you can hear it in Harvey's voice. He knew

1227
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: what he had done and how special this deer was.

1228
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: He'd been waiting his whole life for this moment. Overall,

1229
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: the deer had thirty three score able points. I don't

1230
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: even know how to describe him. Everybody says, you know,

1231
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: you get a deer in a lifetime. This deer is

1232
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: a deer in many lifetimes. If you took I guess

1233
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: maybe a main frame eight point that was I say,

1234
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty inches wide. Gave that rascal some ten

1235
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: or twelve inch brow times that forked up at the top,

1236
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: and then take all of his G two's and put

1237
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: stickers all over the ones on his left side. I

1238
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: think there were five huge stickers that looked like a

1239
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: more like a turkey foot or something that came off

1240
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: of his G two on his left side. He was

1241
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: actually a really uh, he was skinny. It was we

1242
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: get him there, we get him cleaned. The deer had

1243
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: three of his legs have been broken. One of them

1244
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: had been broken in two separate places. And I don't

1245
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: mean just snapped a little bit. I'm a massive I

1246
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: remembered afterwards seeing the deer move towards me through all

1247
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: the limbs and everything else, that he had kind of

1248
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: a funny gait. But I thought it was because he

1249
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: was posturing at that other dear and posturing at me

1250
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: for grunting. But it wasn't this dear. It was actually, yeah,

1251
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got along. Yeah he had,

1252
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: he was tough, he was old, just a massive deer.

1253
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: And after it, I get him up to the house

1254
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: and we're looking at this and I can't help think. Man,

1255
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if anybody else around here knows

1256
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: that anything like this even exists around here. Now, I

1257
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: had moved up here, and I didn't know anybody, didn't

1258
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: know too many places to go. But every day that

1259
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: I went to work, I passed a place called Mountain

1260
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: Man Pawn Shop. There's a there's a really cool pawn

1261
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: shop in Fayetteville, Arkansas called Mountain Man Pond. These guys

1262
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: are my friends down there. And about the probably the

1263
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: thirteenth of October, I pull into Mountain Man just randomly,

1264
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: and they put pictures up of all the bucks that

1265
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: have been entered into the Big Buck contest. And I

1266
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: walk in there and I'm kind of just perusing the

1267
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: leader board and there's not very many deer there yet

1268
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: because it's early October. Most of the deer hadn't been killed.

1269
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: And I will never forget, ever forget what it felt

1270
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: like when I came down to that last picture and

1271
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: I see some dude with a giant buck in the

1272
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: back of his truck, and I unmistakably know that it's moose.

1273
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, here is a pick sure of moose at

1274
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: Mountain Man Pond, dead I'm in shock. I remember I

1275
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: called James Lawrence, I called Misty. I called my father

1276
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: in law, Steve Schultz. Ended up calling my dad later too,

1277
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: and I said, it's over. Moose is dead. I go

1278
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: to the guys at Mountain Man and I say, hey,

1279
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: I know you're not supposed to do this, but I've

1280
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: got to have the phone number of this guy, Harvey

1281
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: rain Bolt, who has killed this deer. I'm sitting up

1282
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: are and still on cloud nine. Of course, I mean

1283
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: everybody that I can find to tell this dear story too.

1284
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling right, so this I'm sitting there and look

1285
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: and here comes this vehicle up the driveway and I

1286
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: don't recognize it. And guy gets out and he uh,

1287
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: he says, you know, he introduces himself, UM, I'd like

1288
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: to talk to you about your deer, and boy, I

1289
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: didn't know how to I didn't know how to act.

1290
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: I can tell when he came up there that yep,

1291
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: somebody knew about this, dear. I didn't know how I knew,

1292
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: but I knew that this guy knows. It's I'm like, well,

1293
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: I didn't really really know how to talk to him.

1294
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: You know that he gets out of the vehicle and

1295
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: just man, one of the nicest guys ever, and he's like, look,

1296
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: you know, I'm friends with the guy down the mountain man.

1297
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: And I had to really talk to him about getting

1298
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: your number and you're where your address was and all that.

1299
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: But I wanted to come up here and talk to you.

1300
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: And this man sat down and showed me a history

1301
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: of that dear that won't blow your mind. I drive

1302
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: up to Harvey's house and I have my laptop computer

1303
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: with me, and I have two years of matching sheds.

1304
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: I go knock on his door and I say, man,

1305
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: I heard you killed the big deer. Congratulations. I wanted

1306
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: him to know that I wasn't mad at him. I

1307
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: was to celebrate with him. And I was there to

1308
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: add meaning to this deer that he had killed. And

1309
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: I said, man, have you got a minute. And we

1310
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: went to his back porch and sat down, and I

1311
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: opened up my laptop and I began to tell him

1312
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: the story that started in two thousand and eight with

1313
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: a little two and a half year old deer that

1314
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: had a side that looked like a moose andler, and

1315
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: how I tried to kill that deer, and how the

1316
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: next year he grew to a hundred and twenty five

1317
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: in ten point and a hundred and forty five in

1318
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: ten point with kickers, and then down to a hundred

1319
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: and thirty five inch deer, and then up to the

1320
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: rack that we're sitting there looking at, which was a

1321
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight inches and three eighths And the

1322
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: incredible saga and the amount of time and energy and

1323
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: emotion that I spent hunting that deer, and I I

1324
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: really was happy for Harvey, and it was clear that

1325
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: he was a woodsman and he recognized what he'd done.

1326
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: I ended up giving Harvey both set of sheds of moose.

1327
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: I just felt like they belonged to him. And with

1328
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: that rack, and when I heard his full side of

1329
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: the story and how this what this dear would mean

1330
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: to him even in the decades to come, I recognize

1331
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: that it's just a lesson in life. Like you, you

1332
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: think things are supposed to go a certain way, and

1333
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, I had scripted out in my mind how

1334
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna kill this deer, and I didn't. I

1335
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: don't hold on to dear that tight anymore. Something that

1336
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: is as beyond and far out of our control as

1337
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: a wild white tail buck. No man has right to

1338
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: claim it. Nobody deserves that dear. Harvey didn't deserve it.

1339
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: I sure didn't deserve it, But we just get what

1340
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: we get, and there is I believe God's sovereignty is

1341
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: involved in everything that we do. Now, even ten years later,

1342
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: Harvey and I have have become good friends. We've stayed

1343
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: in touch. Harvey no longer lives in that spot. It's

1344
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: clear that that dear was very, very meaningful to him,

1345
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: even life changing, and to this day he and I

1346
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: both celebrate that we both got to hunt for a

1347
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: big buck deer named Moose, and we absolutely love him.

1348
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: I believe one of the greatest things a person can

1349
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: have is passion. But with it comes high highs and

1350
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: low loads. It takes some gut staff passion. You gotta

1351
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: be brave. Today we've heard four stories of bucks that

1352
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: got away and four that didn't, and it'd be hard

1353
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: to say which one has had the most value. All

1354
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: I know is that I'm grateful every day for the

1355
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: wild and wooly place that we live that holds white

1356
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: tail deer. Whether it be a backyard, suburban buck or

1357
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: a wilderness beast, it makes no difference. White tail country

1358
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: in all its forms is special. As the world becomes

1359
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: increasingly urbanized, I cherish my personal connection to the natural world,

1360
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: and I'm grateful every day that I'm a white tail hunter.

1361
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great season, and remember grunt

1362
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: staff a walking deer getting to your stand plenty early,

1363
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: mo Shepherd. Don't dip skull. Being late for Christmas dinner

1364
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: is only excusable if you bring home two big bucks

1365
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: like the boss that you are. And don't let your

1366
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: heart get too tied up on a big buck because

1367
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: he might just break it. And probably most importantly, celebrate

1368
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: the success of others. If you get your mind right,

1369
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: your neighbor's success is your success too. Thanks so much

1370
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: for listening to Bear Greece. Let me know which story

1371
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: you enjoyed the most in this series, and check out

1372
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,519
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1373
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Speaker 1: like the Alpha and Beta procolls. They sound great. I

1374
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: look forward to talking with all the folks on the

1375
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: Render podcast next week, So between now and then, we'll

1376
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: kill a big buck.