WEBVTT - The Cycle - Opening Day featuring Kelly Kirby And Chris Welsh (EP. 1) 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.840 Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle, a brand new Fantasy 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.760 Pros Fantasy Baseball weekly podcast. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:10.119 I am Ryan Warmley. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.119 I am joined by Mike Mayer, who will be on 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.960 every show with me, and by Kelly Kirby, who will 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.400 be on many shows here and there throughout the year 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.520 filling in as a guest lending her expertise to the show. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.959 You can find her at the Wonky Penguin on Twitter 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.440 if you're not following her already. Kelly, thank you so 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.600 much for coming on to the very first episode. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.600 Thank you for having me. It's great to be here. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:32.879 We are excited to have you. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.240 Like I said, Kelly will be on throughout the season 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.960 very regularly, so we figured let's bring her on for 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:39.400 a large chunk. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.400 Of the first episode. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.720 We will also have Chris Welsh on a bit later 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.879 in the show to talk about some prospects. He will 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.040 also be a regular appearer on this show. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:48.520 Mayor. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.839 We did our preview episode last week. We are now 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.080 here for the real thing. We're recording just one day 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.600 before opening day. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:56.920 How are you feeling, I'm feeling great. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.480 Are we sure apeerer is a word? 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There hasn't 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.560 been any baseball played outside of a couple of games 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.520 in Korea, so we figured let's just hit on a 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.120 bunch of different things here as we are, you know, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.760 on the eve, the precipice of opening Day, we're gonna 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.960 start off with one of those performances from the Korea series. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.320 That was Yamamoto, who I briefly mentioned in our preview 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.040 episode with may Or how I almost wanted to recommend 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.960 against drafting him where he was going, and then I 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.960 was afraid that he would have an excellent first start 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.680 and make me look bad before a first show even 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:22.079 came out. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.160 Turns out I should have just stuck with my guns. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.160 He pitched one inning, about four hits, had one walk, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.760 five earned runs, did have two strikeouts. Mayor, what is 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.160 your concern level on Yamamoto after his first ever major 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:35.760 league start. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.520 It's non zero, but I don't think it's high. But 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.880 you know, his spring training numbers are not great either. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.840 His r's over eight in springtraining, and you know we 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.760 always talk about how like, you know, spring training stats 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.800 don't matter, but we all still look at them, and 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.079 so I would like that does come with fourteen strikeouts 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.920 against four walks, So it's they're not all terrible. So 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.440 I'm a little concerned, but I'm not like very concerned 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.160 because I did expect it would take. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.840 Him a little a little while to get up and running. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.840 And I was listening to the the CBS guys not 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.320 too long ago, and they made a really good point 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:12.679 about how last year Kodai Sanga actually skipped the World 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.120 Baseball Classic just to start pitching in spring training, to 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.120 get used to the American you know, the ball that 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.720 they use in Major League Baseball. And so I think 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.200 he's got a lot of things going on. You know, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.000 it was his first appearance as a Dodger in a 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.040 real game. He wasn't even at Dodger Stadium. He was 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.520 in Korea, and I'm sure there was a lot of 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.440 things going on there. And you know, I think it's 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.639 going to take him a little bit of time to 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:36.880 get his feet under eath them. But I am still 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:37.960 confident that he's going to be. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.840 A very good pitcher. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.480 What do you think, Kelly, I mean, this is somebody 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.080 who was, by the end of draft season, was like 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.160 a top seven pitcher off the board, you know, top 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.400 three round pick in a lot of leagues. His ADP 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.760 on our Fantasy Pros consensus page was thirty fourth overall 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:53.720 pitcher number seven. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.200 I mean this is a guy. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.280 That play, you know, managers are relying on to be 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.000 nearly or an actual fantasy ace for them. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.680 He certainly didn't look like that in his first start. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.960 Yeah, I was kind of confused about the ADP. I 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.880 thought it got too high, But then I also looked 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.200 at pitcher injuries, and by that point I think like 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.480 people who started in the hundreds probably ended up being 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.360 the SP ten. But I'm with Mayor. Unfortunately I don't 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.040 like to agree with him, but I am here. I 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.560 feel like there was so much offense in the in 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.159 those two games, and it's in create right like, so 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.400 there's so many factors that it's really hard to get 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.440 a feel for it for where he's going to be. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.120 But yes, I also think the concern is higher than 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.159 zero that he I mean, I don't know if he'll 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.520 return that value this year. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.960 But Kelly, did you find yourself like considering changing him 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.159 in your draft rankings after that? Or he's kind of 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.320 still wherever he was for you before, which I don't 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:48.960 know where that was. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.000 Yeah, I don't think I had him. I think I'm 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.800 a little lower on him to start with, but I'd 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.560 have to look at it for sure. But Yeah, I 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.760 consider dropping him, maybe just one or two, but again, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.640 with the injuries, it's just a difficult. It's difficult to 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:02.920 know where to put him at this point. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.560 Yeah, same question, Mary, what about you? 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.400 It looks like in our ECR he was you know, 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.400 forty two here overall, like I said, ADP is a 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.400 you know, about eight spots higher than that. Where did 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.640 you have him ranked and was that impacted at all 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.440 in terms of an actual draft ranking? 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:17.400 Based on that first. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.000 Start, I had him as a top ten sp and 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.960 I think I still have him there. I may have 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:26.160 dropped him like one spot, but I didn't like actively like, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.400 you know, go look to drop him after that start. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.000 But you know, I did open my eyes a. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.160 Little bit and try to hedge a little bit based 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:33.839 on that performance. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.440 Yes, let's go to his teammate for our second headline here. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.160 Not really a ton to spend on here, a ton 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:45.520 of time, but show he o toddy gambling. I don't 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.520 even know how to really describe what's going on. It's 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.320 a wild story. Obviously, everybody listening to the show is 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.200 probably very aware of what's gone with his interpreter, who was, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.919 you know, reportedly stealing money from him. And using that 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:01.320 to make very you know, big gambling bets on a 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:02.799 litany of sports, including baseball. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.040 I saw it. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.360 It's similar to, you know, after all the stuff came 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.080 out with the Astros that you know a lot of 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.200 these YouTube accounts would go back and find old highlights 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.760 and be like, oh, look here, how like you know, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.120 Altuve wouldn't let them take his jersey off, or you 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.240 can hear the trash can in these moments. I've seen 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.800 a couple of those similar types of stuff being put 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.359 together with Otani, like, oh, his interpreter had like a 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.200 million dollar bet placed in you know, an overseas account 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.880 on this day for the Braves to you know, cover 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.640 three and a half runs against the Dodgers or against 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.960 the Angels rather and oh look Otani gave up six 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.240 runs and pitched terribly and struck out twice. You know, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.480 this stuff like that has started to come out as 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.920 these sort of internet salute I've been looking into it. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.880 I mean, mayor what was your just like initial takeaway 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.839 to all this happening. Again, it's not really like baseball 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.159 relevant yet, but it just was such a major story 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:57.760 with the biggest player in the sport that I felt 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.240 like we had to at least address it. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.200 Yeah, I think it's fascinating. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.480 I feel like I've also changed my mind on what 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.320 I think is the truth, like a dozen times already, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.360 like over the last week since this came out. I 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.200 think the main thing so far that like you know, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.440 originally Baseball said they didn't you know, they weren't even 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.480 investigating it, and then everyone's like, you have to, you 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.720 have to investigate this, and so they are at least 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:20.120 going to like. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.000 Look into it now. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.440 I did think it was interesting so far, like there's 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.320 no betting on baseball that they know of, unless that's 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.360 changed in the last like twenty four hours, which, like 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.840 you know, according to like the baseball purists, like that's 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.200 the big thing. The one thing my initial thought was 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.840 like I can't there's no way this guy could be 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.280 betting this much money without Charlie Ottwani like realizing it. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:41.920 But I have kind of changed my mind a little 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.920 bit on that. Listening to the I forget the guy's name. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.520 I want to say it was Daniel Kim, but I 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.480 don't want to misspeak. But he was like a he 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.960 was on the broadcast for the series in Korea, and 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.160 he was like, look, these interpreters are more than just 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.560 like the media presence and like helping them like talk 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.800 to people on their team. He's like, these guys are 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.120 like at the grocery market, grocery store with them. They're 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.239 opening their bank accounts for them. So like he probably 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.120 has access to Otani's bank information because he set up 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.520 the account. So I was like, Okay, that does make 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.160 a little sense. There are still a lot of concerns 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.040 in red flags here. I don't know that it'll be 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.200 that relevant for Fantasy this season because I think even 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.440 I think this is going to take a while for 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.760 them to like dig into and so even if worst 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.080 case scenario there's like some punishment coming from Otani, I 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.360 think it's probably like next season that we see anything happen, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.239 But we'll see. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.680 I think that's probably right. Kelly. What was going through 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.560 your mind when every twisted turn to this story has 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.480 you know, kind of dropped. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.520 Yeah, I surprised myself with the first one was I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.800 was just like, look, if there's any player we should 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.160 just shove this under the rug and ignore, it would 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.120 be Otani because I love him and I think he's 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.520 great for the game and all of that and then 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.439 of course, you know, I got to the logic side 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:53.640 of my brain where, yeah, the stories, it's it's kind 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.120 of the Akam's Razor problem for me, where it's like, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.920 what's the most plausible with the least amount of complications explanation? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.480 And so I'm just trying to wait and see, like 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.600 how far off that does this go before it kind 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.880 of like settles into this is what actually happened where. Yeah, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.160 So I don't know, I'm not worried about him for 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.120 fantasy this year either, although it does kind of have 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.520 that feel of when you know, like a rookie gets 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.280 caught with PDS and then all of a sudden he's 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.080 just gone for eighty games, Like like that's kind of 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.160 where I put this, where that is always going to 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.000 be hanging over his head this summer. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.280 I think let's move to an actual, more relevant to 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.199 this season baseball topic, hopefully more relevant, and the time 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.040 of thing won't become relevant to fantasy baseball this season. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.160 Jordan Montgomery, Yeah, our long national nightmare is over. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.800 He finally signed one year deal with the Divingbacks, who 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.800 have made an attempt here to kind of revamp the rotation. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.000 You know, EDWARDO. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.320 Rodriguez Montgomery obviously E rod is you know, dealing with 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.240 injuries himself. Clearly Montgomery will not be ready by opening day, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.079 since by the time people are listening to this, it 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.559 will already be opening day. Kelly, what kind of time 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.679 whine do you think we're probably looking at for Montgomery 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.200 if you even have a sense of it. And on 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.960 top of that, once he is kind of up and 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.280 you know, up to speed and you know, arm strength 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.280 built up, everything like that, what do you think, you know, 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.920 what do you make of the fit really for fantasy 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.160 with the Diamondbacks. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.440 I think it's a decent fit for him. I'm not 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.680 you know, he doesn't have to necessarily anchor the staff 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:25.520 or really do anything larger than what he's capable of doing. However, like, yeah, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.520 I think it's going to cost him maybe I would 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.200 say three starts at a minimum, possibly four before he's 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.560 really ready to roll. So I wouldn't rely on him 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.160 until maybe the third or fourth week of April at 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.559 this point for him to get stretched out. But yes, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.920 I too, am very glad that the nightmare is over 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.840 and that all of the big named free agents signed 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.959 in the off season is basically what we can say. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.199 Right technically, just in under the buzzer. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.920 His ADP was, you know, one sixty four obviously, you know, 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.400 driven by the uncertainty of him not having signed until 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.800 so late and the fact that it was pretty clear 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.240 by the time we got into draft season that he 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.640 was going to not be ready by the start of 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.320 the season because of this delayed signing. Mayor if you 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.880 had known from the beginning of draft season that he 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.920 was with the Diamondbacks and he was starting the year early, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:15.720 where do you think he would have been going. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.120 Where do you think you would have ranked him? 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:18.839 You know, how much of a value do you think 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.959 people got, if anything, based. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.560 On where he was going because of the uncertainty. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:23.400 That's a good question. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.840 I think a lot of people got like several round 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.679 value because of the uncertainty. He actually signed last night 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.160 while I was in the middle of that draft. I 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.200 was telling you about last night that draft champions. So 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.520 I actually got him in the eleventh round like one 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.240 fifty four overall, which is pretty you know, pretty good value. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.360 He didn't I thought it was interesting, like because he 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:43.880 didn't sign while I was on the clock, I was 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.360 up in like seven picks and I was like, oh, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.320 I'm not going to get him, and then like he 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.720 just didn't go And I assume everyone saw in the 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.360 news because I saw the news, so I just picked 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.640 him up when he came there. I do think there's 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:00.880 almost like this mystery like fact going on or like 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.520 this mystery effect going on with him or like, and 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.840 it's probably the same thing that like affected his free agency. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.319 Like I think a lot of people think he's better 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.800 than he is. I mean, he's good, he's very solid. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.920 He's not like an ACE and he's going to be 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.920 like a really good innings Zeter, and he has a 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.840 lot of value, but I think people are kind of 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.840 valuing him similarly to like Blake Snell, who I also 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.600 have concerns about, but he's at least more of like 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:30.520 that ACE level. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.120 But like I like Jordan Montgomery. He's very solid. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.000 He can like help you in a lot of ways, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.640 but he's he doesn't strike out a batter per inning. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.480 You know, last year he threw one hundred and eighty 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.800 eight and two thirds innings one hundred and sixty six strikeouts. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.920 Like that's fine, that's good. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.080 It was a good er three point two his expected 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.640 numbers are all higher, you know, between three point five 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.079 six and up over four, and like at that point, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.439 how fiable is he? 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.800 Well, he was also better with Texas, which I think 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.680 prop might stick in people's minds, you know, maybe you know, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.120 two seventy nine ERA as opposed to three to twenty 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.560 on the season, one oh nine whip as opposed to 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.320 one point one nine on the season. So, uh, you know, 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.160 he did seem to kind of level up a bit, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.839 you know with the Rangers, Kelly even with. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.439 Them, though, even with them though two seven nine ERA 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.280 with the Rangers four point zero whit Sierra. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.480 I mean, I mean, I with you, I'm not like, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.440 I'm not really trying to play Devil's advocate because I 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:27.760 do think he's become. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.680 A bit overrated by being so I. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.800 Think I think I think he's become a bit overrated 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.319 by being, you know, the last guy available. And it's 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.000 like all these teams that you're pitching, it's like, well, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.719 the Yankees should lookt him. Cauzan pitching, well, the Oriil 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.959 shouldok at him, Caise AINI pitching, well, everybody who needs 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.960 pitching should look at him, because he was the last 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.559 guy there, you know, alongside Blake Snow for a while, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.600 so I see why people might have kind of put 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.840 put them together. I am with you on him maybe 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.719 being a little overrated Kelly, Like if you had to 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.480 put a rest of season ranking to it, like, are 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:57.960 you know what kind of pitcher do you think we're 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.200 looking at here? Are we're looking at like an SPO 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.679 Do you think that's you know, maybe too aggressive? 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:04.400 What would you say? 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.880 Yeah? I mean, like right now, I think he's going 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.360 to be like a very good SP three, which like 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.600 I put him behind Meryl Kelly in that in that 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.199 rotation just in terms of how much that are going 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.720 to help you. He has some SP two upside, but 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.120 not enough where I'd be like beating down the door 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.520 to trade for him or any or anything along those lines, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.920 because yeah, I feel like he he benefited from the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.400 scarcity issue right where he was the only one left 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.400 and whether he was good or not, he was experienced 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.720 in a veteran so everyone was like, we have to 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.600 go get this guy. He was just the one out 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:42.480 there at the time. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.440 So let's wrap up the Round of the Bases sort 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.680 of headline segment here with just a general like there's 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.320 been a lot of pitching injuries. Early I had a 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.520 listener of the show reached out to me and asked 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.360 me my opinion on Hey, you know, pitching kind of 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.640 got away from you my draft. Here's like five screenshots 0:14:58.640 --> 0:14:59.960 of all the pictures that are available. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.040 Is anybody you like? 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.920 And I was like, every single player that I like 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.440 here has an O next to their name, like they're 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.720 just all injured. It's really I mean, the Diamondbacks themselves, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.280 Rodriguez s all like like already, and it's. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.760 Across the board, it's everywhere. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.800 Kelly, is there an injury, you know, rather than going 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.360 through all of them individually because it's so so many 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.200 of them, is there an injury that stands out that 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.320 is creating an opportunity for somebody else, or that you 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.240 think is going to be really impactful for the rest 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.920 of the season. Any of these injuries really significant to 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:30.560 you in any way? 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.920 I think you know, when Brian with Brian wu going down, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.360 I looked at Seattle as a very deep rotation that 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.240 you could really count on when you were drafting, and 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.600 I knew he had the elbow problem, but it seemed 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.200 like he was doing okay. So with him going down, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.640 I don't know necessarily if that creates an opportunity somewhere, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.360 but it does. It caused me to reevaluate sort of 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.160 the Mariners as a whole and to keep an eye 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.120 on them because it seems like they sort of have 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.320 like what Tampa used to have. We're the next person 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.080 up just kind of of shows up and does pretty well. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.120 And I suppose we could also talk about Tampa losing 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.360 what three fifths of their rotation. But yeah, so that 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.440 he was the first one or he was the biggest 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.040 one where I thought, okay, this kind of swings a 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:12.800 few things for me. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.000 So yeah, a very popular draft target in you know, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.560 a lot of my leagues. He was people were going 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.040 after from pretty aggressively. Mayor what do you think about 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.200 just kind of the injuries in general? And is there 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:23.080 one that stands out to you? 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.760 Well, there's a couple that stand up. Brian wu was 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:25.120 one of them. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.880 Dylan Carlson was another one because of what it means 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.320 for Victor Scott. But I think, you know, the Welsh 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.160 will be on a little bit later and he'll he'll 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.000 break that one down. I had a similar situation to 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.400 you where someone on our discord which everyone should join 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.960 fantasypros dot Com slash chat you should join that reached 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.360 out and he was like, I had a bunch of 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.640 picture injuries. Which are these three guys should I pick up? 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.800 And it was like Nathan Valde, Nick Pavetta or Brian Wu. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:47.520 And I was like, well, not. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.000 Brian Wu because he's also hurt, so don't pick him 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.800 up unless you can also stash him. The good news 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.560 for with the Brian Wu injury, you know, pooring out 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.400 for Brian Wu, is that Emerson Hancock is getting called up. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.800