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Speaker 1: Today we break down the Cowboys offense trying to light
Speaker 1: it up against the Texans defense. Wacom in everybody alongside
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, Hello, Patrick, No, c. Walker, We've got
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how
Speaker 1: are we doing? I'm happy to be here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here, you know, just stopping by,
Speaker 1: visiting something with your chest, Yeah, say it with your
Speaker 1: chest are tea. Yeah, you're a little guest past. Thanks guys. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. You know, stickers are happy
Speaker 1: you're here. Yeah, where you guys? Full name Isaiah stand
Speaker 1: Back Escort required. Yeah, about about what it takes, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what happened was you guys might be jealous. I
Speaker 1: am jealous because stickers rock. That's why we had, you know,
Speaker 1: stickers after victories. Good point. I like it. Good point.
Speaker 1: Put that one on that week. Here's my smelly sticker.
Speaker 1: If a practice squad guy gets elevated, has a breakout game,
Speaker 1: has to get the elevated back to day visitor. Yes,
Speaker 1: that being real, I'll tell you right now, that's happening
Speaker 1: if we if we take care business weekend, this is
Speaker 1: going on the helmet. It's been a lot of wins,
Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of stickers. That sticker is
Speaker 1: gonna Yeah, we're gonna have to find a space for
Speaker 1: it because that thing is huge. Oh man, that that's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Gosh. I'm looking ahead, guys to this Texans matchup,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but think about what we talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday, and I hate how confident this team is,
Speaker 1: or not this team, but like this team as an
Speaker 1: in the building with talking cowboys, these these three right here.
Speaker 1: I hate how confident we are in the fact of
Speaker 1: this is just gonna be another game. It's no there's
Speaker 1: there's no such thing in the NFL. But then a
Speaker 1: couple of things continue to kind of come down yesterday.
Speaker 1: These are toilet thoughts, Yeah, a little bit, just flush
Speaker 1: them away. Seventeen point favorites the most, the biggest point
Speaker 1: spread in the n FELL this season. Cowboys lead the
Speaker 1: NFL and point differential and toward the bottom of that list.
Speaker 1: Guess who's there, the Houston Texans. Then you look at
Speaker 1: the injury report yesterday, Patrick No C. Walker and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a couple of guys sprinkled on there. However,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith back at practice, you had James Washington in practice,
Speaker 1: and then the Texans it's DMP, DMP, DMP, DMPDMP. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look great for the Houston Texans. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's tanking or not. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of quarterbacks coming out right,
Speaker 1: A couple of guys, c J. Stroud got Bryce Young,
Speaker 1: two guys at the top of the list. We're not
Speaker 1: accusing them of tanking. I don't think we're saying that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's convenient that guys separated. Have they had
Speaker 1: a buy this is uh? I don't think so. If
Speaker 1: they're one ten and one, that's twelve games, So yeah,
Speaker 1: they have had a buy Yeah yeah. Um uh. I
Speaker 1: was want to say, let's let's use that to sega
Speaker 1: to it and we will do it on the inverse.
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, ladies and gentlemen, prepare yourself, um, because this
Speaker 1: is what their injury report looks like. All right. Mario Addison,
Speaker 1: dealing with the knee injury, did not participate. Malie Collins,
Speaker 1: who you guys and gal should all know well from
Speaker 1: his time with the Cowboys. Um, he did not practice,
Speaker 1: but his was a rest day, So Malie Collins looks
Speaker 1: like he will play. Nico Collins foot did not participate,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cook's calf did not participate, and it goes down
Speaker 1: the list from there. Derek Stangley, the defensive back, did
Speaker 1: not participate. Jerry Hughes, his was a rest day, did
Speaker 1: not participate, and we'll talk about him momentarily because he's
Speaker 1: the team leader in sex. Kurt Hennish, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's like I summed up in the tweet yesterday for
Speaker 1: the injury report, kind of laid out the Cowboys injury report,
Speaker 1: which is short, and we'll get to that in a
Speaker 1: quick second. But then when it came to breaking down
Speaker 1: the Houston Texas injury report. Just yikes. That was my
Speaker 1: professional assessment of their injury report. Just analysis, yikes. Cowboys wise,
Speaker 1: Quentin Bohannah was limited with a knee injury. Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like there's any major concern there. However, he was inactive
Speaker 1: last week, so that is something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: Good news is he's back in practice and he is
Speaker 1: working through it. But we'll see if the Cowboys activate
Speaker 1: him this week or if they give him another week
Speaker 1: of rest on that knee. Jonathan Hankins he did not participate,
Speaker 1: but his was due to a personal reason, so he's
Speaker 1: expected back in practice today. Hopefully the personal issue isn't
Speaker 1: anything major, but if it is, prayers to him and
Speaker 1: his family. Kelvin Joseph and Sam Williams. After the press
Speaker 1: conference yesterday, head coach Mike McCarthy said that there were
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that were quote unquote under the
Speaker 1: weather injury report comes out, and those guys are Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph and Sam Williams, both tagged with the illness designation
Speaker 1: they did not participate last week. It was Treyvon Diggs
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup. Both of those players did were active
Speaker 1: very much so the game against the Indianapolis coach. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes with kJ and Sam Williams.
Speaker 1: kJ specifically because he is tabbed as the front runner
Speaker 1: to replace Anthony Brown, so this game is one of
Speaker 1: the first key games for him. And then from there
Speaker 1: you have j Ron Curse with the shoulder and DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence with the foot. Both of them were limited. Both
Speaker 1: are expected to practice today Tomorrow, Saturday, and beyond the
Speaker 1: field on Sunday. So that's the injury report between both
Speaker 1: of them. Cowboys looking fairly fairly good, assuming that Kelvin
Speaker 1: and Sam, you know, rest up and recover in time.
Speaker 1: But the Houston Texans, my word, so kind of on
Speaker 1: the reverse end of injury talk. I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that a couple of guys were in there yesterday and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were indoors yesterday. It was a little nasty
Speaker 1: outside and so they worked inside the Ford Center. Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith was out there. You and I both gotta look.
Speaker 1: I thought he looked great. I thought the movement was there.
Speaker 1: He didn't look like he was limbering, laboring, nothing of
Speaker 1: the sort. What was your assessment of Tyron? Same and
Speaker 1: This is something that just carries over from what we've
Speaker 1: been seeing, you know, in the open portion of practice
Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks or so, he has
Speaker 1: been moving extremely well. And there was one one point
Speaker 1: in practice I think was might have been last week.
Speaker 1: It shouts out to Haley Sutton. She was standing there
Speaker 1: next to me, and he been Tyrann. He went through
Speaker 1: a full drill with brit on the in the rehab
Speaker 1: chords and it was full speed and it included cuts
Speaker 1: and change changes of direction, and I am in awe
Speaker 1: at how someone that side can move that freaking well.
Speaker 1: So when I saw that, I literally was taking a
Speaker 1: back and I looked at Haley. Now it was like,
Speaker 1: holy crap. That again my professional assessment. Yikes, of in
Speaker 1: a good way, in a good way. This is a
Speaker 1: guy who had his hamstring torn off the back of
Speaker 1: his knee the same day. He walks out of the
Speaker 1: out of the facility without even a minor lump, and
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months later or so, here
Speaker 1: he is out there running, you know, full speed. So
Speaker 1: yesterday was just to carry over from me. I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to see anything um lesser than what I had
Speaker 1: seen over these past several weeks with Tyrono Smith. He's back.
Speaker 1: So when the Cowboys say, um, there's a chance that
Speaker 1: he will be on the field against the Texans, believe it.
Speaker 1: Believe it. There is a chance. Do you think there's
Speaker 1: a chance he's there this week, Guysaiah, just based off
Speaker 1: of the injury and the timetable and what you've heard
Speaker 1: from the front office, or is it more of just targeting.
Speaker 1: I don't think next week's out of the question at all.
Speaker 1: I think that's really the fall before Philadelphia, correct, So
Speaker 1: I think the chances are it's a dumb and dumber chance.
Speaker 1: Dumb and dumb saying there's a chance, Remember that I
Speaker 1: got that one, You got that one? Didn't give a
Speaker 1: night at the Roxbury people. Sorry, people are really upset.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. I need to get the log
Speaker 1: in for the service. Yea, that service, Yeah, whatever it
Speaker 1: is of your Yeah that that that that nobody's watching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, no, I haven't gotten to watch it yet.
Speaker 1: I'll watch it soon. But yeah. So, I mean there's
Speaker 1: a chance. I don't see it happening, But I don't
Speaker 1: know his health in terms of you know what they know.
Speaker 1: So I can't speak on it, but you obviously you
Speaker 1: guys say that he had a good half and half
Speaker 1: practice and we'll see how the rest of the week goes.
Speaker 1: I guess really today and then yeah, no shells all week. Right,
Speaker 1: there's no shells, just walk throughs. But I think what
Speaker 1: you could do he needs to he needs to contact, right,
Speaker 1: I would say he needs game. Put him out there,
Speaker 1: let him start um ten to fifteen snaps without shells. No,
Speaker 1: I mean he needs some shells, Okay, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about if there's a likelihood of him playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course it's the Texans. You put him out there
Speaker 1: as a starter, you give him ten to fifteen snaps,
Speaker 1: you pull him, you let you know. Tyler and Jason
Speaker 1: Peters finished the job at left tackle against the Texans.
Speaker 1: But you start the ramp up process, which is basically
Speaker 1: what you just did with Anthony Barr, which with a
Speaker 1: much lesser injury, but none the less, wrap ups need
Speaker 1: to happen, especially when you're out for such a period
Speaker 1: of time as Tyron was. So is that a question
Speaker 1: for McCarthy maybe today is with the lack of pads
Speaker 1: in practice this week, and he made it known he
Speaker 1: said it in this press conference that he's not putting
Speaker 1: the guys in pads. It's a scheduled thing. It's not
Speaker 1: because they're playing the Texans and they're taking the Texans lightly.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's just a day off, couple couple
Speaker 1: of days. I think it's too important to see him
Speaker 1: with that full resistance. Yeah, you know, you think he
Speaker 1: needs some guys, like we talked about, when he comes
Speaker 1: back and needs some guys getting after him, right, whether
Speaker 1: it's Mica Dlaw, Sam Williams, whoever you want to throw
Speaker 1: over there, Tach, don't do tac. Tach might be a
Speaker 1: little bit too much. But yeah, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: throwing you mean got waves, right, those some guys out,
Speaker 1: I mean, do some one on once. He needs to
Speaker 1: feel that that contact. You just can't when you're when
Speaker 1: you're not in shells. And for people that don't know
Speaker 1: what shows are, it's you're wearing all football pads from
Speaker 1: the from the waist up right, so he shoulder pads, helmets, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's shells. If you're not wearing that, then you just
Speaker 1: have helmets on him. You're not getting anywhere near the
Speaker 1: amount of contact that you would typically get, which means
Speaker 1: that he's not facing that real resistance. Then hasn't faced
Speaker 1: that real resistance since he got injured. Right, So if
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and typically they have a pretty robust
Speaker 1: practice on Saturday, um, if they have a if they
Speaker 1: change up and then go shells on Saturday, then that
Speaker 1: increases the likelihood and the chance, I should say, of
Speaker 1: him taking the field against the Texans ums a day
Speaker 1: before the game. But not for a twelve o'clock game.
Speaker 1: This is a new game. This is a neon game,
Speaker 1: because it's it's difficult to remember that his team gets
Speaker 1: neon games. This game, the next two or noon games
Speaker 1: game a lot of new games to Kyle's points. So
Speaker 1: if if you know seven to seven isn't out there
Speaker 1: on Sunday, then I think it's as close to one
Speaker 1: hundred percent chance as you can get that he'd be
Speaker 1: out there against the Jaguars. So it's really sad that
Speaker 1: you don't get the experience of donuts that we have
Speaker 1: here in the studio on twelve o'clock games. I mean,
Speaker 1: you get the experience of game Ie the l and Kyle, myself,
Speaker 1: Barry I gets we're sitting here just in a it's
Speaker 1: pretty good. I get the mac and cheese. Mac and
Speaker 1: cheese is pretty fire. Yeah, you didn't get the smoked
Speaker 1: mac and cheese though, didn't get that one. Uh. Kind
Speaker 1: of continuing with this conversation, not the food conversation, the
Speaker 1: offensive line conversation, Kyle trying to push bass that trying
Speaker 1: to Yeah, no, no, not for me. So I originally
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about wide receivers, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit later on the show. But since
Speaker 1: we're talking about offensive line initially, how exciting is it
Speaker 1: because we talked about good problems on Monday? Right? Who
Speaker 1: do you put at left? Card? Connor McGovern, Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: By the way, the overwhelming majority of my Twitter poll
Speaker 1: was in agreeance with Patrick. But I think I'm in
Speaker 1: agreeance now with Isaiah. I think you keep it the same.
Speaker 1: I think you keep it at Connor McGovern. Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: hasn't lost that job. He's played really, really well. Just
Speaker 1: want you to have a friend. I'm right there, I'm
Speaker 1: right there, But the fan poole got it over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make another debate, We've already thrown
Speaker 1: that out there. But how exciting is it to not
Speaker 1: have a lack of offensive linemen, but have a surplus
Speaker 1: this time around, because that's a huge piece of this
Speaker 1: puzzle moving forward that you didn't necessarily you think going
Speaker 1: into the yof season that you had. Front office has
Speaker 1: done an amazing job they have over the last two seasons.
Speaker 1: They've been they've been lights out and I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Sean Merriman and they've been they've been killing it
Speaker 1: in regards of like completely changing this defense personnel wise,
Speaker 1: completely changing the scope of this office in line. Both
Speaker 1: of these areas have been concerned, right, They've been huge concerns.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the kicker situation. We thought
Speaker 1: that was going to be a complete wou right, it
Speaker 1: was bad. Right, So every issue that has been presented
Speaker 1: in terms of potential downfall at positions, they've addressed it.
Speaker 1: And the more incredible thing, and I think this also
Speaker 1: gives credit to the coaching staff. I mean give the
Speaker 1: flowers to the coaching staff too, because every and we
Speaker 1: talked about it on this show Week one against the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a nineteen to three loss, we came
Speaker 1: back into this studio and we said everything that was
Speaker 1: a question mark reared its ugly head against Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: so and then you lost your quarterback. So at that point,
Speaker 1: Hope looked lost. The fact that all those question marks,
Speaker 1: Twitcher's offensive line, special teams, and a little bit of
Speaker 1: the defense in terms of stopping the run, all of
Speaker 1: those things were just torn apart. And so was your
Speaker 1: secondary in that game too. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: that's not a question anymore. I mean, these are all
Speaker 1: things that have been checked up, checked across the board,
Speaker 1: been addressed and been addressed since that point going into camp,
Speaker 1: Like you said, one of the biggest questions, hands down,
Speaker 1: was the depth at the offensive line position, just as
Speaker 1: a unit. And here we are in, you know, mid December,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about you know, unfortunately you loosed he
Speaker 1: Round Smith at credit the front office, Will McClay, Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. You got Tyler Smith, much to the chagrin
Speaker 1: of a lot of Cowboys Nation. Tyler Smith comes in
Speaker 1: and pops right out the left tackle, which is what
Speaker 1: he played at Tulsa, and he has acquitted himself very
Speaker 1: well as a rookie. Obviously, you're gonna have your rookie hiccups,
Speaker 1: and they've been the penalties. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: based upon expectation in the situation he was thrust into.
Speaker 1: You could not have asked for much more from Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith and big fellow. Right, and you pick up Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: you lose Matt will let's go. You lose Matt Farniac too.
Speaker 1: You can't protect right, No, so you lose. My point
Speaker 1: is you lose these two players which you were hoping
Speaker 1: to get some contributions from as early as this season,
Speaker 1: and your offensive line doesn't lose a step, not a
Speaker 1: single step. And that is before seven seven gets dropped
Speaker 1: back into the mix. It's just it's phenomenal kudos across
Speaker 1: the board, front office, coaching staff, and of course we
Speaker 1: have to specifically mention Joe philbin in his his offensive
Speaker 1: line assistant. They've just been phenomenal. So bouquets of roses.
Speaker 1: Scouting department too, Yeah, to the scouting department. That's where
Speaker 1: really that's boots on the ground right there. So when's
Speaker 1: the last time you had this much confidence in the
Speaker 1: offensive line. It was it the Travis Frederick Beard was here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was the fred Beard fred Beard tyron
Speaker 1: Zach error and then toss in some Ronald Leary for
Speaker 1: those that might have forgot about big Ron right, you know,
Speaker 1: um that was also when you know Lyle Collins was here,
Speaker 1: but also challenging Leary for positions and then you had,
Speaker 1: you know that that situation. But as far as depth
Speaker 1: and talent goes, it was that it was that error,
Speaker 1: not since that error. I'm looking at Tyler Smith's numbers
Speaker 1: compared to Tyron Smith's numbers as a rookie in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: Tyrone had over a thousand snaps, he had eight sacks
Speaker 1: allowed and thirty pressures given up seven penalties totals, so
Speaker 1: numbers that aren't necessarily great numbers, especially for Tyrant Smith.
Speaker 1: I mean, he got better as his career got along,
Speaker 1: of course, But then you look at Tyler's numbers. He's
Speaker 1: had seven hundred and eighty snaps. He's allowed four sacks,
Speaker 1: which is half of what uh Tyrn did in his
Speaker 1: rookie season with about three quarters of the snaps, and
Speaker 1: he's allowed twenty five pressures, which is pretty high for
Speaker 1: that number and relative at that point too. I mean,
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is when this season comes
Speaker 1: to a close, Tyler Smith at left tackle in filling
Speaker 1: into a position, that he wasn't anticipated. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: he wasn't anticipated to play left tackle this year. He
Speaker 1: was anticipated to play left guard, came in, struggled there
Speaker 1: in the off season, went right back out the left tackle,
Speaker 1: which was his position in the future. And he's having
Speaker 1: comparable numbers to Tyrant Smith whenever they're both in the
Speaker 1: rookie seasons. There's a chance. There's a chance he's your
Speaker 1: left tackle of the future, and he's shown that the
Speaker 1: way that you wanted it to be sure, But anything
Speaker 1: can happen either way, is what I'm saying. That's why
Speaker 1: it's always a chance. I mean, it's not foregone conclusion
Speaker 1: that he's going to continue to have the trajectory the
Speaker 1: Tyrants in. It's a foregone conclusion that they're looking to
Speaker 1: him to be absolutely I agree with that. Now will
Speaker 1: that manifest itself? Time will tell. Yeah, trajectory says yes,
Speaker 1: but time will tell. Injuries happen knock on wood, and
Speaker 1: you know, dips and production happened knock on wood. But
Speaker 1: current trajectory looking good, looking good. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our first break when we come back. Does the wide
Speaker 1: receiving corps even need Odell Beck we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: but if you see Patrick no seawalker, if you see
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, you see myself, say hi while you're
Speaker 1: on Hello, Yeah, say hi. Uh. They tell you at
Speaker 1: the beginning, like don't don't talk to people. That's a
Speaker 1: good rule. Don't do that. But if you see us,
Speaker 1: you can say hi. Just say hey, Kyle love the show.
Speaker 1: Hey Patrick, love the show. Hey Isaiah. People do that.
Speaker 1: I'm a big film room fan. I was I was
Speaker 1: eating some breakfast yesterday, yeah, at a particular restaurant, and
Speaker 1: one of the gentlemen that I was working at the
Speaker 1: restaurants say hey, I'll listen to your show every day.
Speaker 1: Love it. I absolutely love it. Love you absolutely you know,
Speaker 1: we noticed when the tours walk past it. Yeah, typically
Speaker 1: we all smile away. I've never seen a tour actually
Speaker 1: stop and watch the break m. They just breeze by.
Speaker 1: It's a stop. It's a stop on a tour, you know.
Speaker 1: But they just walked right by. I didn't know we
Speaker 1: were taking shots of people. Shots kind of a listener.
Speaker 1: RPG's babies, Yeah, says rocket launch freaking go huh, all right,
Speaker 1: camping on the roof, scoping bang, Absolutely, Isaiah. Are you
Speaker 1: a fan of cryptic tweets? Cryptic? Yeah, like like mysterious
Speaker 1: no tweets? No, Patrick, are you a fan of you?
Speaker 1: Gotta understand. I grew up into my Space era Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: my Space, Black Planet, Christian Mingle, all that stuff. The
Speaker 1: farmers with Facebook. I was with Facebook when you had
Speaker 1: to have a college you're gonna have a college email address. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where the era I come from. We didn't throw
Speaker 1: cryptic stuff out there. Cole. You wanted to say something,
Speaker 1: you said it with your chest. Now everybody sits behind
Speaker 1: their little computers or their cell phones and sends out
Speaker 1: whatever they want to either draw attention or the throw shade,
Speaker 1: or to act like they can say, so we'd act
Speaker 1: like they got their chests puffed out when they really
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it in person. The world's a different place now, Kyle.
Speaker 1: So now people say things cryptically to try to get
Speaker 1: some attention. Say what you don't on chess. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, and we will talk about really
Speaker 1: quickly what we're talking about specifically, but it's not exclusive
Speaker 1: to this individual, just period across the board. I do
Speaker 1: not like cryptic tweets like I'm with Isaiah, say it
Speaker 1: with your whole chest. I think it's corny, it's I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a looking. I think it's just a
Speaker 1: corny thing. That term was around your generation. It's cringey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's better. Corny is the older term. Cringey is
Speaker 1: the curtain current. I guess that's what I can't say.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well that's too. There is a certain
Speaker 1: wide receiver that yesterday put out a quick cryptic tweet
Speaker 1: following the news starting to trickle out that Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: have cooled on talks with Odell Beckham Junior. Cool cooled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not corny, not cringey, but cooled. There's still quote unquot
Speaker 1: working on it at you know, Jerry Jones, but I
Speaker 1: think cooled an. The reason why is not because the
Speaker 1: meetings went poorly. No, everything was great. Actually from what
Speaker 1: we have heard that the players that hung out with
Speaker 1: him at the game, Treyvon Diggs, Michael Parsons were great.
Speaker 1: The conversations he had with Mike McCarthy went swell, Dak Prescott, everything,
Speaker 1: Steven Jerry all of that. Check check check check check.
Speaker 1: But then you get into the injury talk. That's where
Speaker 1: the hold up is, and that's where the hold up
Speaker 1: is league wide right now. I think, isn't that why
Speaker 1: he's not on a team? Correct? Absolutely correct? Is the
Speaker 1: injury timetable you were thinking here, we are thinking maybe
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks he could come in and play.
Speaker 1: Two or three weeks down the road, maybe that Philadelphia game,
Speaker 1: he's there and ready to go and help the team win.
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons gave us a little insight that Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: told Micah yesterday. Here, I guess a couple days ago,
Speaker 1: but he said this yesterday five weeks five weeks out,
Speaker 1: which would put him at right at the tail end
Speaker 1: of the regular season. So best case scenario week eighteen
Speaker 1: final game against the Washington Commanders or the wildcard round
Speaker 1: second base best case scenario, realistically, you probably wouldn't see
Speaker 1: him as a full, fully engulfed part of this offense
Speaker 1: until the divisional round or the championship round. It's like,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier this week, the conversation moved to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three as it relates to Odell Belcam Jr.
Speaker 1: Because you simply don't know, based upon, you know, the
Speaker 1: medical situation with his knee, if he'll be able to
Speaker 1: take the field in twenty twenty two. Because consider this,
Speaker 1: if he did, in fact tell Michael Parsons that he's
Speaker 1: five weeks out from well this week because they met
Speaker 1: earlier this week, if he told him he's five weeks
Speaker 1: out from this week, players will always tend to lean
Speaker 1: towards optimism, right, best case scenario. So if O'Dell's best
Speaker 1: case scenario was five, that means realistically same right, a
Speaker 1: seven or eight right, which again, some things are just
Speaker 1: absolute in the world. Yeah, death Texas and the ability
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys medical staff to do their jobs right.
Speaker 1: So if the Cowboys medical staff is looking at his
Speaker 1: his you know, Mr, and looking at his reports and
Speaker 1: they did the physical, the one over and they sit
Speaker 1: back and they say, is this the same medical staff
Speaker 1: that found the issue with Damon Clark? It is still
Speaker 1: drafted them anyways because of the plane not a red
Speaker 1: plane and making an impact just for the people that
Speaker 1: were going to tweet something best for the same medical
Speaker 1: staff that you know, for those that are saying, Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith wouldn't take another snap in football? How's that nerve doing?
Speaker 1: So again? Death Texas Cowboys medical staff best medical staff
Speaker 1: in the league in your opinion. You worked with them
Speaker 1: straight up, and you worked with multiple You were with
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Jags, Patriots, the Cowboys. The Giants have
Speaker 1: a really good staff at the time. Jacksonville had a
Speaker 1: really good staff. Um. But yeah, Dallas to me as entirety,
Speaker 1: I think Dallas has us. Was it like was it
Speaker 1: close or was it like blow him out of the
Speaker 1: water sort of at your time, And it's the same
Speaker 1: staff now that I think I was spoiled. So let's
Speaker 1: just say that I was spoiled and I spent too
Speaker 1: much time with all my medical staff. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's yeah, that's not a good thing. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the Organizationally, I was spoiled. I was. I played
Speaker 1: for some really good organizations, but Dallas holically, when you
Speaker 1: start looking at Jim, you look at Britt, and you
Speaker 1: look at Greg. Those guys, the three of them, plus
Speaker 1: they're the people that they bring on those that's a
Speaker 1: that's a trifecta. Yeah. Yeah. Again, if O'Dell is saying
Speaker 1: five weeks, players will almost always go to the to
Speaker 1: the shortest window, which means realistically probably looking at seven eight.
Speaker 1: So then the question, because it's very telling, are you
Speaker 1: willing to sign and stash because that's basically what you'd
Speaker 1: be looking at. I knew this conversation would go one
Speaker 1: way or not. This conversation, this debate will go one
Speaker 1: way or another. Once he got into building, because because
Speaker 1: of the medical staff, Yeah, it was gonna the deal
Speaker 1: was either gonna get done really quickly because they said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew it, Like we could talk about
Speaker 1: it all leading up to it. But as soon as
Speaker 1: he got in the building and didn't get their hands
Speaker 1: on him and get up there their medical staff and
Speaker 1: MRIs and all the other kind of jazz. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure all that took place, but I would assume all
Speaker 1: that took place. It did. He was either gonna get
Speaker 1: done immediately or not at all. And there there's something
Speaker 1: to be said for those that are saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: sign Stash and while you because you still have James
Speaker 1: Washington ramping to come up as well, um and get
Speaker 1: old and the old Dale Bell can j You're in
Speaker 1: the building with this outstanding medical staff that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: so that he can finish his rehab here and that
Speaker 1: might just expedite the process there. I don't think they
Speaker 1: wanted to commit to him. I don't think they wanted
Speaker 1: to commit to him beyond this year. Truthfully, that's my belief.
Speaker 1: I think they wanted him run his impact, right. I
Speaker 1: think Jerry wanted him for this run. That's if it's
Speaker 1: not this run, we'll wait and see what we look
Speaker 1: like next year. Do you think you blame him for that?
Speaker 1: Though not at all. It's a great business in my opinion.
Speaker 1: If he's not ready to play, then don't mess with it.
Speaker 1: We'll see it in the office. And to answer your cohon, No,
Speaker 1: the Wide Receiver Corp. Doesn't need him right now, but
Speaker 1: you do need some insurance now that might come by
Speaker 1: way of James Washington, who hopefully can get on the
Speaker 1: field and make an impact. But being James Washington or
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junru, you would like to believe or like
Speaker 1: to know that you're going into the playoffs injury proof
Speaker 1: at the position because if player X or player Y.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the names because I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I'm superstitious like that. If they one of
Speaker 1: those players go down, goes out with an injury, and
Speaker 1: you don't have someone that is ready to step in
Speaker 1: and step up at a high level, you're going to
Speaker 1: be in very real trouble. But that being said, all
Speaker 1: insurance isn't the same James Washington, albeit not the player
Speaker 1: that Odell is. He's ready to get on the field
Speaker 1: Asaph Odell, you could. You could sign that insurance policy
Speaker 1: and you still might not see it payout in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two even if you need it. So so many
Speaker 1: layers to this, but yeah, Jerry Jones wants present tense
Speaker 1: to impact now because he wants to make the and
Speaker 1: now and he wants Odell Bill comp Juny to be
Speaker 1: the additive now. If Odell and his team are saying, well,
Speaker 1: there's a chance, but we could definitely make sure that
Speaker 1: you're good in twenty twenty three. Then I guess the
Speaker 1: question for Jerry becomes with and what concessions are you making,
Speaker 1: because you're going to have to make a lot of
Speaker 1: concessions for me to eat that. Yeah, no, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: I think the conversation is completely turned. It's not the
Speaker 1: same as what it was a week two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And it's also a conversation I'm tired of having. I did.
Speaker 1: There's there's some locker room fatigue with this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence said it yesterday. I'm tired of talking about it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we had to hit it because Mike had
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, and then the timetable is termed.
Speaker 1: The decision is different. This is the last time I
Speaker 1: will talk about OBJ until the pin hits the paper,
Speaker 1: whether it's with the Cowboys or not. So that's the
Speaker 1: last time we're talking about OBJ. I want to shift
Speaker 1: that conversation into the Wide Receiver Show because, yeah, with
Speaker 1: an the way that this team has built momentum, it's
Speaker 1: been in a different way than they've done it in
Speaker 1: the past, but it's been in a way that both
Speaker 1: I know Isaiah standbacks talked about before. Patrick nose Walker
Speaker 1: has talked about before, and that's by running the football
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Speaker 1: the run game is setting up the pass much like
Speaker 1: it always should have been. Where is the credit going
Speaker 1: to go? Is it going to Kelly Moore? Is it
Speaker 1: going to the running game? Is it going to the
Speaker 1: wide Receiving Corps? For being consistent and reliable? I'll mention
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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen here? What was that? Hi? Kyle? Hey? There?
Speaker 1: Here's the net passing yards over the last five games
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys Chicago two hundred and forty two win,
Speaker 1: Green Bay two sixty two. We're not going to talk
Speaker 1: about that one three h seven Minnesota, big time win,
Speaker 1: two sixty one against New York win on Thanksgiving, and
Speaker 1: then last week against Indianapolis and another big time win
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five yards through the air. Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you've been a big proponent of this since you stepped
Speaker 1: onto this show. Run the ball, run the ball, run
Speaker 1: the ball, and then throw it. It needs to be
Speaker 1: a run first offense. Does the fact that there's some
Speaker 1: confidence around not only the offensive line, but the ground
Speaker 1: game in general with the one two punch of Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard so much so that it's opening up the passing
Speaker 1: game and these wide receivers are getting better separation and
Speaker 1: benefiting from it. Absolutely, this is the key to success
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys offense. And you're absolutely right. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the extensively on this show and it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lauren Hole, Kellen Moore has matured and graduated himself up
Speaker 1: to what I consider an elite officers a coordinator. I
Speaker 1: think he was a really good coordinator before. But as
Speaker 1: long as he knows that this is effective, as long
Speaker 1: as he commits to it, you're you're elite officer a coordinator.
Speaker 1: You don't have to throw your way into the category
Speaker 1: of being an elite officer a coordinator. Your job as
Speaker 1: officer a coordinators to put your guys in position to
Speaker 1: be successful and score points, whether that's on the ground
Speaker 1: or whether that's in the air. Some teams evolved differently
Speaker 1: depending on what you have available to you. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: identity of this team is just that run the freaking ball.
Speaker 1: You got a two headed monster in the backfield. You
Speaker 1: got a great office, a line that's doing really well,
Speaker 1: scoring you touchdowns at the top of the league. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're protecting your quarterback, Kate, do what you have to
Speaker 1: do to be a successful. Don't do anything outside of that,
Speaker 1: because when you get cute, you become the ugly duckling.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like that. I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the scientists right there in front
Speaker 1: of you, killing Moore, continue to consistently commit to the
Speaker 1: run to set up the pass because there are times
Speaker 1: where you've gotten away from it and it's come back
Speaker 1: to bite you be it in the micro and you
Speaker 1: know certain situations or in the game overall, as far
Speaker 1: as the outcome is concerned, more often than not. In
Speaker 1: the three losses, well, week one was such an aberration.
Speaker 1: I try not even mention that because it was just
Speaker 1: such an operation. But in the other two losses, those
Speaker 1: are hanging on your head because you got away from
Speaker 1: the run. You were up, and we don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about Green Bay, but one of the reasons for
Speaker 1: that collapse was you got away from the run and
Speaker 1: in which case you were up by fourteen points. You
Speaker 1: should have used the clock as the twelfth defender and
Speaker 1: just ran it down their throat, which you did. But
Speaker 1: it looks like we're back to Kellen Moore understanding the
Speaker 1: level of commitment that is required to the run game.
Speaker 1: When you have two dynamic running backs keep the ball
Speaker 1: in their hand two further notice, and then you have
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback you can allow to play off of that,
Speaker 1: and it just completely keeps the opposing defense off balance.
Speaker 1: And that's how you're going to continue to win games
Speaker 1: going forward. So with that question, Beer, that that being
Speaker 1: the case, I've got a question on the back end here,
Speaker 1: which one do you want to utilize more against the Texans?
Speaker 1: Do you want to allow it to get your wide
Speaker 1: receivers a little bit of extra pub you get him
Speaker 1: some some airtime, maybe liftoff since we're playing Houston, or
Speaker 1: do you run right at this this Houston Texas team
Speaker 1: and just continue to wear them down. I think you
Speaker 1: do what you've been doing right, don't change a thing,
Speaker 1: don't change anything. I want more of? Is Malik Davis?
Speaker 1: M Really? Yeah? Why is that? Because I want to
Speaker 1: beat a team? You know? That would be fun because
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce and Malik Davis were one two on the
Speaker 1: depth chart at Florida together, so then you can kind
Speaker 1: of duel each other out a little bit. Speaking of rookies,
Speaker 1: I want to see them go at Jalen Petrie a
Speaker 1: little bit in coverage he's been suspecting coverage all year long.
Speaker 1: I was watching til him yesterday. He was a big
Speaker 1: time draft pick. I wasn't very high on them in
Speaker 1: the draft. Actually got in an argument with with Brian Protis.
Speaker 1: They did. Yeah, he's ranked eighty five of eighty eight
Speaker 1: safeties on Pro Football Focus right now. And like I said, grades,
Speaker 1: I really don't pay attention to. But I mean eighty
Speaker 1: five of eighty eight, that's the bottom four. That's just
Speaker 1: something to keep in mind. I want to see them
Speaker 1: attack the air a little bit. I agree with you
Speaker 1: don't change anything, continue to run the football the way
Speaker 1: that you have, and then you can open it up
Speaker 1: a little bit. I want to see him take those
Speaker 1: mistakes away in the early parts of the game. That's
Speaker 1: a big thing too, And I agree. And I think
Speaker 1: that you will see the receivers Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, the tight end crew. And I think this
Speaker 1: is a good game to get Jake and Peyton involved
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I think you'll see them, you know,
Speaker 1: make a big play respectively. One we used to call
Speaker 1: the Dallas defense the Duffel bag boys. Every time I
Speaker 1: hear about those two, Jake and Peyton I think of
Speaker 1: the Deffel bag boy is there too, But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with Isaiah and that this freaking the month of December.
Speaker 1: You experiment where you need to experiment office and line
Speaker 1: rotations because you got Tron coming back, cornerback opposite Trevon
Speaker 1: Diggs and outside of darn Bland because you lost Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: But this is also where things are set as far
Speaker 1: as schematics go. You you've determined that your better run
Speaker 1: first team used to play action off of that. Start
Speaker 1: refining that, start sharpening that more and more, because not
Speaker 1: to look forward, but you kind of got to peek forward.
Speaker 1: Massive game coming up on Christmas Eve. The playoffs are here,
Speaker 1: not long thereafter. December needs to be where you're hitting
Speaker 1: your stride, refining everything that needs to be refined, and
Speaker 1: everything that needs to be experimented with tweaked that you know,
Speaker 1: get that worked out. So don't go into this game thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: well yeah it's the Texans and we can throw it
Speaker 1: all around the field. It's true you probably can, and
Speaker 1: the science says you can. Right keeping out on Jerry Hughes,
Speaker 1: I mean that guy has eight, so contain him and
Speaker 1: then everything else falls into place. Um, but I mean
Speaker 1: get in there, punch him in the mouth. Take whatever
Speaker 1: hope they have going into this game away immediately, immediately, immediately,
Speaker 1: because this is a team, this is a team in
Speaker 1: the Texans that you can, you can break their heart
Speaker 1: and their emotions and their hope in the first quarter
Speaker 1: because they they're getting paid to do it. But they
Speaker 1: I don't think at this point one ten and one
Speaker 1: in Cowboys, Chiefs, Titans or the next three opponents, these
Speaker 1: guys are ready to take to take the January. They're
Speaker 1: ready for some some vacations. Were they're ready for some vacations.
Speaker 1: Were you ever on a team that had a season
Speaker 1: like that where it was one two wins? I didn't
Speaker 1: think you were. What was the worst season you ever
Speaker 1: went through? Regular season one? I don't remember the record.
Speaker 1: It was Jacksonville for sure? Was it? Yeah? It was.
Speaker 1: Was there a pride issue at the end or was
Speaker 1: there was there a fatigue? Was it more a pride
Speaker 1: of we want to we want to keep our jobs.
Speaker 1: You're counting down vacation where you realize what I'm saying, Okay, boy,
Speaker 1: you're looking at you like what I got five weeks? Okay,
Speaker 1: they've been eliminated from playoff contingent effective last week. Now
Speaker 1: you're going up against the Cowboys, and then the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and then the Titans. Those guys, they're calling them the
Speaker 1: travel Planners. They're just they're ready to get up out
Speaker 1: of here, so you know, make it easy for them
Speaker 1: about putting them in a coffin early. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: currently the number one pick, but that's no surprise at anybody.
Speaker 1: They've lost seven straight games. That's first in the league,
Speaker 1: most in the league in terms of a losing streak,
Speaker 1: so it lost seventh streight. They trying to get up
Speaker 1: for these games. Not enough, You're gonna lose draft status. Yep,
Speaker 1: you're gonna drop. They've got the thirteenth pick two from
Speaker 1: Cleveland for the Deshaun Watson trade, so that pick is
Speaker 1: even looking better and better. They have no incentive to
Speaker 1: really the only and I mean the only incentive they
Speaker 1: have is to try to beat the in state big brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's all they got. Everybody gets up to play them.
Speaker 1: I mean it's still especially when they're good in state
Speaker 1: big brother. That's the only movation for the Texans. But
Speaker 1: you know, punch him in the mouth. Early with Zeke
Speaker 1: and Pollard. You know, break him in the first quarter
Speaker 1: and this game will get away from the Texans very quickly. Guys.
Speaker 1: You want to see shoulders start to slump. Heads are
Speaker 1: going to drop. The players are just going to get
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. And if you think fifty four against
Speaker 1: the Coats was something, if you break the Texans will early,
Speaker 1: this could absolutely be a sixty steak two and fourteen. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. That's really bad. That is bad. But
Speaker 1: you were counting down vacations. Yeah, you weren't the only one.
Speaker 1: And that lock him out of New York. Who's your quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Sharon Brochure, Dad Lane was really d Blaine. Chad Henny
Speaker 1: still in the league. Where's he at? He's backing up
Speaker 1: my homie? Is he really? I did not know that
Speaker 1: he's been doing it? I did, Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: You and I were in Inglewood in that hotel lobby
Speaker 1: and we were watching the Chiefs play and Chad Henny
Speaker 1: tried it out there. He's been doing every year. I
Speaker 1: remember that. That's pretty funny. I should have learned how
Speaker 1: to play QB. Yeah right, that's a mistake. Yea. I
Speaker 1: should have never left, should have never left. Drafted in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Wow, he's still sticking around. Good
Speaker 1: for him. They drafted after me. Yeah, good, good, interesting,
Speaker 1: Good for him. All Right, Tomorrow, we've got to say
Speaker 1: it with your chest Friday, we're gonna we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the nickname thing. We've got some got some decisions
Speaker 1: to be made, so we're gonna take some time tomorrow
Speaker 1: to do that. Coo Squad, We're gonna give you some
Speaker 1: some matchups to watch tomorrow. We'll give you some chances
Speaker 1: to make some money on draft kings, and then we'll
Speaker 1: of course give you the pickums and we're gonna pick
Speaker 1: some games over the weekend that doesn't for us. Frisaiah
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