1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. We are rolling through the biggest stories 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: of the day. Encourage you to go to download the podcast, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: make sure you don't miss a single moment. And one 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: of the big stories of the day, in the week 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: and the months potentially to come still is Hunter Biden's laptop. 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: And we bring in now Miranda Divine, New York Post writer, 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: author of Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden, Big Tech and 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: the dirty secrets the President tried to hide. Miranda, our 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: audience already had seen enough to believe that the laptop 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: was authentic. Did you take any thanks for joining us? 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: By the way, did you take any validation in the 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: New York Times after seventeen or eighteen months finally acknowledging 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: that the laptop was real buried down in their article 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden paying off his one million dollar tax bill. 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Or were you just still angry that we're even in 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: the position where The New York Times is allowed to 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: validate anything. Well, look, it's no vindication I have to 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: say for anyone at the New York Post for your listeners. 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: For my readers, everybody knew that this was a legitimate laptop. 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: We would never have published those emails back three weeks 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: before the twenty twenty election if we hadn't done our 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: due diligence. So this is only news to the readers 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: of the New York Times, and I guess see an 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: n viewers and MSNBC viewers and that half of the 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: population that chooses to read and view left wing organs. 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I feel sorry for New York Times 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: readers that they were kept in the dark for all 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: this time. I guess it's a bit of a shock 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: now for them, and I guess they're scrambling to try 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: and figure out what's going on. They were told that 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the laptop was rush and disinformation. Joe Biden told them 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden told them during told all of us 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: during the election campaign that he knew nothing about Hunter 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Biden's business dealings, He had never met any of his 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Arbasse's business partners, and that was all alive Randa's buck. 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: I want to know as we now we it's important 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: that everyone understand it's not that there's some new reporting 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: that's come to light from the New York Times and others. 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: They were just telling us what you and others had 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: known for a long time, which is that this was 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: true and real. What do you think, though there was 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: such a concerted suppression campaign here from the very heights 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: of Democrat aligned journalism. What was the part of the 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: story when it comes to Hunter Biden that was the 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: most damaging or that they were the most worried about. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Because there's there's the personal stuff, you know, Hunter and 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: the photos and the drug addict and being a mess. 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Then there's all that Ukraine and Barisma and China raising 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: funds and ten percent for the big guy. What was 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: the part of it that they were the most worried about. Well, look, 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: they don't care about the Hunter Biden personal depravity and 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: peccadillos at all. In fact, they're encouraging people to talk 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: about that. Hunter wrote his memoir Beautiful Things, all about 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: his crack habit, and Joe Biden talked about his son's 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: drug addiction. That's what they want you to focus on, 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: and then they can say he's a private individual. We 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Hunter Biden to be president. That is 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: just a distraction mechanism. Because the laptop and Tony bob 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Lynski's corroborating material and testimony is not about Hunter Biden. 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: It is essentially about Joe Biden. Joe Biden was orchestrating, 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: abusing his power as Vice president for eight years to 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: enrich his family and himself to get tens of millions 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: of dollars from countries alike China and Russia and Ukraine, 66 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: just to name a few that are in the news 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: at the moment for obvious reasons, and that are our 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: most serious adversaries. And this puts the President of the 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: United States in a compromising position. And the fact that 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: he has not told the truth about it, the fact 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: that people like Adam Shift, Democrats and their media allies 72 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: and big tech allies have gone to such lengths to 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: cover up the story, to reduce the reporting, to call 74 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: us agents of the Kremlin. Anybody who tries to talk 75 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: about this truth, this very important issue of national security 76 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: is just dismissed as a right wing nut job peddling 77 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. And chief among those critics were the fifty 78 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: one I call them the dirty fifty one. These are 79 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: the former high ranking intelligence officials, such as a former 80 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: CIA director under Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Clapper, Leon Panetta, 81 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Michael Hayden, you named them. They all came out with 82 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: that letter before the twenty election, just five days after 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: our story ran, claiming that it was all Russian disinformation. 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Of course had weezel words in there, which they're trying 85 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: to use now to say, oh, no, that's not really 86 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: what they said. No, that is exactly what they wanted 87 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: everybody to get the impression to take away. And it 88 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: is exactly what Joe Biden did when he stood up 89 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: at the debate against Donald Trump a couple of days 90 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: after that letter came out and declared that it was 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: a Russian plant, the laptop was a Russian plant, that 92 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: our story was a bunch of garbage, so said these 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: really esteemed intelligence people. Miranda. We had an interesting discussion 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: to start the show about why now. Why is the 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: New York Times, after basically buying into the why that 96 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: this was Russian disinformation and not covering it, Why are 97 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: they now even though they buried it. I'm still old school, Miranda, 98 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: And read the actual physical new favor they buried at 99 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: like twenty pages back into physical front section of the newspaper. 100 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Why do you think the story came out now, Well, 101 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: two reasons. One is, you know, there still are some 102 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: legitimate journalists and New York Times believe it or not. 103 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: And there were people there who knew, who had talked 104 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: to Tony bob Olinski last year. They knew the laptop 105 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: was real, and I think there must have been some 106 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: sort of internal friction. But the reason for this particular 107 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: story was not to backtrack on their previous rejection of 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: the laptop. Their admission that the laptop was real came 109 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: in paragraph twenty four. The real story was basically rehearsing 110 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: a defense for Hunter Biden of these upcoming expected indictments 111 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: from the US Attorney in Delaware. And he's been investigated 112 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: well since at least twenty eighteen. The New York Times 113 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: says it was previous to that, but we know since 114 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen he's been investigated for alleged tax evasion, money laundering, 115 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: and violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. These are 116 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: serious criminal charges if they were to be brought, and 117 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean Trump World was fully destroyed really by the 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Farah allegations. Paul Manafort spent time in jail, and there 119 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: are others in the Trump orbit who who've had these issues. 120 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: So that was a never used or very little used 121 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: law before. Now it's become a big deal since the 122 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Trump era, and it would be just very ironic if 123 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it ended up being used against Hunter Biden. So they're 124 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: obviously sweating. We haven't seen much of Hunter Biden in 125 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: recent weeks, and the grand jury they're in Delaware has been, 126 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, subpoenaing his bank records, they've had his baby 127 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: mama went and testified to them for several hours last 128 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: week London Robert ste Arkansas former stripper, who was the 129 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: mother of his now four year old daughter that she 130 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: had to go to court to prove paternity of and 131 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: her lawyer has handed over a whole case shift documents, 132 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: financial documents to the grand jury. So and reading between 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: the lines of the New York Times, it seems that 134 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: the grand jury has actually been using at least some 135 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: emails that were on the laptop, if not the entire laptop. 136 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: And we know the FBI has had the laptop, Hunter 137 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop since December twenty nineteen, when John Paul Maciaac, 138 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: the owner of that book repair shop, handed it over 139 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to them. And that's only one of three laptops that 140 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: we know of that Hunter's lost. Miranda Buck and I 141 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: were discussing in the first hour, and I'm glad you 142 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: went through that issue. We also have the Durham probe 143 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: going on. I think that Hunter is going to get 144 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: indicted for some charges, but took the other side. We 145 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: have a steak bet on it. If you had to project, 146 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: do you like my argument that he will be indicted 147 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: for some charges or Buck's argument that he will not. 148 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Which side do you think is more likely? Look, I 149 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: think he probably will be for two reasons. One is 150 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: that London Robert Lawyer is certain that he will be, 151 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: and another is because in this sort of rehearsal of 152 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: his defense through the New York Times, I've talked to 153 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: seasoned tax lawyers about this and they say these are 154 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: not excuses. I mean, saying that you paid a million 155 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: dollars worth of overdue tax after an investigation started does 156 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: not get you out of the trouble. And similarly, you know, 157 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: retroactively applying for foreign registration, I don't know why he 158 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: would be allowed to do that, and others wouldn't be 159 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: allowed to do that. So and you know there's ample 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: evidence on the laptop. Also the Chuck Grasley, Ron Johnson 161 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: and Senate investigation where they have the money trail. I 162 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: mean documents that I wouldn't have been able to access. 163 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: But this is from the Treasury Department, These suspicious activity 164 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: reports that banks packed to file. There were a lot 165 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: of those, to do with all the money that was 166 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: coming in, tens of millions of dollars coming in two 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: bank accounts associated with Hunter Biden, his uncle Jim Biden, 168 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Joe's younger brother, and their partners. And I mean the 169 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: crucial thing to remember also is that Joe Biden can't 170 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: pretend that he knows nothing about his family's this influenced 171 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: peddling scheme because he lied about meeting Hunter's business partners. 172 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: He met several of them. He met Chinese business partners, 173 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: he met Russians, he met Kazakhstanis, he met Mexicans, he 174 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: met them in Beijing, he met them in Washington, DC. 175 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: He invited them to his own home, he brought them 176 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: on two Air Force two. So he is intimately involved. 177 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: And not only that, there is evidence on the laptop, 178 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: not a lot, but there is some evidence on the 179 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: laptop that he financially benefited from Hunter's business dealings overseas, 180 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and that is both you know, co mingled bank finances, 181 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: shared debit cards, shared bank accounts. And also the Hunter 182 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: was paying some of Joe's household bills for you know, 183 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: maintenance and upkeep on one of his Delaware mansions, an 184 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: ATNT phone bill every month. So you know that that 185 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: shows that that Hunter Biden also when he complained busily 186 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: to family members that he had to spend, you know, 187 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: give so much money to support the rest of the family. 188 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: And at one point he said, you know, I had 189 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: to give half my salary to Pop, which is Joe Biden. 190 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of evidence there. And you know, 191 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: you wonder if Joe Biden paid tax on that money 192 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: that he received. Render Vine, author of Laptop from Hell 193 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: and Royalist, over at the New York Post. Right, thanks 194 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: so much, pleasure, great to talk to you, guys. Bocker 195 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: you get nervous, not at all, man. But she is 196 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: looking at it in my in my opinion, from the 197 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: perspective of what should happen based on the evidence in 198 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: a country where the evidence makes prosecutorial decisions. I am 199 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: looking at this through the prism of he is the 200 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: sitting president's son. The Democrats run the legal apparatus like 201 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: they do the media in many ways. And David Weiss, 202 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the US Attorney for Delaware, does he does he want 203 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: to see his life destroyed? Does he want to see? 204 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: That's how the Democrats play. They're like a mafia family, 205 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: that's how they play. They play rough, and I just 206 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: think they'll end up Clay. Will he pay a fine 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: and maybe an admission, but no criminal indictment. That's it. 208 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the real Do is he criminally 209 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: indicted with something that would seek to send him to prison? 210 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: No way, no way, they won't do it. My tongue like, 211 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: but oh man, just think we'll see, buddy, I'm telling me. 212 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Do we have to put an end date on this 213 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: one too? Like? When do we end of this year? 214 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: We have to have like a statute of limitations on 215 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: the bed here? I think, well, I think it's only 216 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: one year because my thought is that they will not 217 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: necessarily want to bring the charges right before the mid 218 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: term because then it seems politically motivated, even though Biden's 219 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: not on the ticket himself, And so I think they'll 220 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: either have to do it soon, meaning you know, in 221 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: the next month or two, or they'll do it next 222 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: year after the midterms have already happened. It would be 223 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: a bold move to indict the sitting president's son and Biden. 224 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. We don't have to bet 225 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: on this. Does Joe Biden pardon him right away? Well, 226 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: he'll pardon him if he's not running for reelection. I 227 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: don't think he would do it right away because I 228 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: think the positive would be if you're Biden, Hunter Biden. 229 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: These kind of things take years, and I don't think 230 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's going to run increasingly in twenty twenty four, 231 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: So I think on his way out the door, yes, 232 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: he could pardon his son. It would be amazing. Almost 233 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: everybody would have gotten away with Russia collusion and all 234 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: the lies and all those machinations, and then the guy 235 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: that gets caught would be not for that, but for 236 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: something else, and then from the Democrat camp would be 237 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. Well, I mean, the wild thing is everything 238 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: that the Democrats have been alleging against Trump and their 239 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: fevered dreams. Biden's family did it. That's that's the crazy thing. 240 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: And they're and they're not even willing to cover it 241 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: even though it's happening right in front of their faces. 242 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: If a fine would be a push? Is that what 243 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: you call it? By the way, if he just pays 244 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: a fine, charges, he doesn't have to be convicted. If 245 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: the charges come down. I don't think he would. Criminal charges, 246 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: not civil charges. Criminal criminal charges. Yeah, it's gonna be great. 247 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna melt like butter. He's gonna get charged. 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That was doctor Fauci 272 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: almost two years ago to the day, Just kidding two 273 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: days ago, actually, because he says the same crap all 274 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: the time, like nothing has changed and he's never ever 275 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: going to let us out of the grip of his cold, little, 276 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: tiny tyrannical fingers. We may need to pivot again if 277 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: there's another surge. He says he's not going anywhere too, Clay, 278 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: he's promising us he's stayed around six You said you're 279 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: going to stay in this job until we get out 280 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: of the pandemic phase. Of course you've been serving your 281 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: country now for decades. Are we approaching the point where 282 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: we are past the pandemic phase and you'll go get 283 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: some rest. I'm not such a judge. I want to 284 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: make sure we're really out of this before I really 285 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: seriously consider doing anything different. We're still in this. We 286 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: have a way to go. I think we're clearly going 287 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: in the right direction. I hope we stay that way. 288 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: This guy has been so awful, so wrong, and such 289 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: an impediment to the truth clay for such a long 290 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: time now. But there there'll be a part of me 291 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that's like without Faucci, I don't know, it just won't 292 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: be the same to talk about the madness of the covidluns. 293 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I will be ecstatic when Faucci is gone for any reason, 294 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: because they're just gonna keep trotting them out. And this 295 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: is where it's important on Fauci. I really believe that 296 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: Democrats will try to bring back masks as soon as 297 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: the midterms are over. This mask, taking it off, your kids, 298 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: not having to wear it. You don't have to wear 299 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: it around the cities. We'll get the seasonal data every fall. 300 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: The number of COVID cases are gonna go up just 301 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: like with the flu, and they're gonna be able to 302 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: hit the panic button and accede to the wishes of 303 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: all of their left wing lunatics. And that's what Fauci's 304 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: basically letting them know. That's why they let him out 305 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: of the basement to go do this interview. Is Hey, 306 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: I've got your back. We're gonna bring all of these 307 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: restrictions back as soon as we possibly can. We're gonna talk, 308 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: by the way, with Seth Dylan. He runs Babylon Bee, 309 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: He's next. 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Appreciate all of 328 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go grab 329 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a moment. Great 330 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: conversation we have with Miranda Divine and The New York 331 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Post at the top of this hour talking about the 332 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: laptop of Hunter Biden and the final acknowledgement seventeen or 333 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: eighteen months after the reporting from the New York Post 334 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: that came from the New York Times. We're joined now 335 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: by Seth Dylan, who is with the Babylon B. He 336 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: does fantastic work there and right now the Babylon b 337 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: is locked out of its Twitter account over a I 338 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: believe it was a joke surrounding the HHS Commissioner of 339 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: some level at in the Biden administration that may have 340 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: also involved Leah Thomas. I'm not sure exactly. Let's bring 341 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: in Seth and find out what the latist is there, Seth, 342 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: what was the joke, what was the headline? You guys 343 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: do fantastic work, and what is Twitter doing? Kind of 344 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: fill in our audience great questions. First of all, thanks 345 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: for having me on. I appreciate it, Thanks for being 346 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: with us. So, yeah, Rachel Levine was named one of 347 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: the Women of the Year by USA Today and we 348 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: did like a satirical take on that where we actually 349 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: selected Rachel Levine as our pick for Men of the Year, 350 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and Twitter didn't like that very much, so that ran 351 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: afoul of their hateful conduct policy where we misgendered somebody 352 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: and targeted an individual for misgendering. So they flagged that 353 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: post and told us that we can only unlock our 354 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: account if we delete that post. And basically what they're 355 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: saying is, you know, we have to go we go 356 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: through this form, we have to help this form and 357 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: acknowledge that we did in fact violate the hateful conduct 358 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: policy and take down the tweet. Otherwise our account remained blocked. 359 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: And Seth, what is your position on this right now? 360 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people I know in the 361 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: past have just said, oh fine, I'll delete the I'll 362 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: delete the offending tweet. Are are you taking a hard 363 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: line one way or the other on this? Well, we 364 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: feel we feel kind of obligated to. I mean, there's 365 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: a situation here where we have to make a choice. 366 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: You know, we have to choose between like keeping this 367 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: platform and the audience that we're connected to through this platform, 368 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: or standing by our principles. And this is a situation 369 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: where they want us to basically affirm something that we 370 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: don't affirm, or deny something that we want to affirm 371 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: that a man is a man. And so, you know, 372 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: in order to do that, to delete the tweet ourselves, 373 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, Twitter, this is the thing. Twitter could delete 374 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: this tweet if they want to, because they don't want 375 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: it on their platform. Why are they making us do it? 376 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: This is about submission, it's about ideological conformity, it's about 377 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: it's about forcing us, compelling us to go along with 378 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: their definitions and their understanding of reality. And we disagree 379 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: with that, and so, um, you know there's kind of 380 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: like this, how could be in good conscience delete this thing. 381 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: We had an internal discussion and decided we couldn't, Seth. 382 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm also curious, does a human being from Twitter engage 383 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: with you on any of this. Is there like a 384 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: rep you can call or someone you can talk to 385 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: you to try to appeal this, or is it all 386 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: just kind of form email and messages saying this is 387 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: the deal? Well, initially, when they notify you of these things, 388 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: it's an automated email that goes out whether a human 389 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: actually reviewed this before that email is triggered or not. 390 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I have no idea. We haven't been contacted by Twitter 391 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: yet up to this point. There's now a lot of 392 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: media attention on this, as you're aware, so, and we 393 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: were trending throughout most of the day this morning on Twitter, 394 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: so we may yet get contacted by them. We're seeking 395 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: out contacts over there to talk to somebody over there, 396 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: but they do have an appeal process that we can 397 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: try to go through, which will pursue We just you know, 398 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: we don't hold out high hopes for that to work 399 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: out in our favor. Seth, I ran a media company, 400 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: as you know, an OutKick for a while, and I 401 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: know how value bowl referral traffic can be from social 402 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: media accounts. So whenever these companies, whether it's Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 403 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: whoever it might be, takes action against individual content providers 404 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: like the Babylon b or OutKick, that has a significant 405 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: impact in terms of the revenue and site traffic that 406 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: can be generated. What does Twitter shutting down effectively the 407 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Babylon Be's account due to your ability to monetize your content? Man, 408 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean, it's hard to overstate it. You know, 409 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Twitter is not it's not our top traffic refer but 410 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: it's one of them. Um so yeah, we've long since 411 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: been driven more traffic through Facebook than we than we 412 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: do through Twitter. It's just more geared towards that. People 413 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: tend to stay on Twitter more and retweet things than 414 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: than link and then click through to the to the 415 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: the links that you've posted there. But but you know, 416 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: it's you're you're part of the conversation when you're on Twitter. 417 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: This is where public discourse happens. This is where all 418 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: the people who will never migrate to parlor and get 419 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: her in these alternative platforms gab and the like, Um, 420 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're they're staying on Twitter. That's where 421 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: the conversation is. That's where a lot of the government 422 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: officials are probably all of the government officials at this 423 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: point are on Twitter, and so you know, it's a 424 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: public discourse is taking place there. When you when you 425 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: when you are removed from that, you're ostracized and you're 426 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: removed from the discussions that matter. So it is very costly, 427 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: even beyond just traffic, it's costly in terms of you know, 428 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: like we have for example, Elon Musk is a fan 429 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: of ours and he engages with our content regularly. Um, 430 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: he's not on the alternative platforms, he's on Twitter. And 431 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: so if we're not on Twitter anymore, you know, we 432 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: we we are no longer being engaged with and in 433 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: front of prominent people with large followings. So the damage 434 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: that it does just not just to our our traffic itself, 435 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: but just you know, our brand and being relevant. Um, 436 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: it's it's huge, big cost. So how I first of 437 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: all admire you for standing on principle because I think 438 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: you're right here and Twitter does need to be held 439 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: accountable for its arbitrary and capricious rules as it applies them. 440 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Um yeah, how long are you prepared to continue this battle? 441 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: We talk with Alex Barns and all the time Twitter 442 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: kicked him off. You aren't officially kicked off, certainly, but 443 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: if you don't, uh, if you don't delete this tweet, 444 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: it's a de facto kicking off right of your of 445 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: your brand. How long could this go on? From your perspective, Well, 446 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, we were you know, 447 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: we feel pretty committed to not deleting the tweet. So 448 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: we're at we're kind of at this impast We're just 449 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: staring each other down right now. Let's see what Let's 450 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: see how Twitter response. We'll see how the appeal goes. 451 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we're bringing a lot of media 452 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: spotlight to this. I'll be on Tucker Carlson later tonight 453 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: talking about it. Um. You know what, the thing that's 454 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: important to us is that we generate enough support from 455 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: our readers. We have lots of loyal readers. We have 456 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a large email list. We're appealing to them to subscribe 457 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: and support us because this could be a long fight. 458 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: This could draw out for years. I don't know when 459 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: we'll be you know, there may come a time where 460 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: the law changes or where the Supreme Court ways in 461 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: on this and Twitter is compelled to allow us back 462 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: on the platform. I don't know, but you know I'm 463 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not calling for any kind of government regulatory 464 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: scheme or anything. I'm just saying it could. It could 465 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: go on for a long time. So we do need 466 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: support from our readers to carry us through. Yes, Seth, 467 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: we want to ask about that exactly because, look, I 468 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: make no secret of this. I think you guys too 469 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: hilarious work on a regular basis. You guys do great 470 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: stuff over at the Babylon Bee that is really helpful 471 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: as conservative commentators. I feel like they're so little comedy 472 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: out there. So we find people who do it well 473 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: and do real comedy, real parity, real satire. We want 474 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: to support it. And you guys are the Bee. Certainly, 475 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: guys and gals certainly do that. Where can folks go 476 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: and how can people make sure they see some of 477 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: the brilliant stuff you're putting out there, even if let's 478 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: say Twitter holds firm well, I think the best way. 479 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can't none of these social platforms 480 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: really allow you to own your audience. You don't have 481 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: an actual relationship with them where you take them with 482 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: you wherever you go. I would say the best thing 483 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: to do is get on our email list. If you're 484 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: not able to be a paid subscriber, the next best 485 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: thing is to get on the email list, and then 486 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: we have direct communication with you outside of the algorithms 487 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: and you know, the big tech sensors who are trying 488 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: to limit what you can see and what you can say. 489 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: So I would encourage everyone today you can join on 490 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: our website or even on our Twitter page which is 491 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: still up. It's not being taken down. We just can't 492 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: tweet there. We have a link to sign up for 493 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: our newsletter right through at the top of the page. 494 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Seth here At wrote request because I'm gonna help you 495 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: at Guys as best I can. When you know that 496 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: you guys have a lot of great stories and headlines, 497 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: When you know you have one that I would love 498 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: that I might not otherwise see, text it to me 499 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: and I will share it with my audience to help, 500 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, continue to spread the word of your brand, 501 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: because I know how incredibly frustrating it is when that 502 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: fire hose effect that you get from your social media 503 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: accounts they suddenly turn it off because of something that 504 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: you've said that they disagree with. 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And we have so oh wait, 544 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: wait before we get the calls, mister kid Rock is 545 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I will say I like the music very much that 546 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: mister like mister. That's probably the first time Kid Rocks 547 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: ever been referred to as mister kid Rock. Mister kid 548 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Rock is an exceptional rocker and also just all around 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: great America for what I understand, and he is very 550 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: clear about the fact that while we're sitting here talking 551 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: about the Babylon Bee having its Twitter account log and 552 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: this is I've been hit with fact checks from PolitiFact 553 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and all this, and it's they're always wrong when they 554 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: do this, by the way, it's like they never actually 555 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: are on the side of never mind the angels, on 556 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the side of free speech, truth, you name it. I mean, 557 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: they're just always in the wrong when they do this stuff. 558 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: They pick these fights big tech and it's because if 559 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: the big tech people making the decisions don't go along 560 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: with this, they will have insane twenty five to thirty 561 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: five year olds who are protesting outside their offices and like, 562 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: you're literally killing me by like not doing what I want. 563 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: They lose their minds. They're a bunch of you know, 564 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: they watch too much MSNBC and Comedy Central and all 565 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: the rest of it. Here is kid Rock just let 566 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: everybody know sometimes you can't cancel people like him. Why 567 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: haven't you been canceled? Like people aren't allowed to say 568 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: what they think you are I am uncancellable? Why's that? 569 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Because I don't and I'm not in bed with any 570 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: big corporate things. At the end of the day, there's 571 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: nobody I'm beholden to, No Brecker companies, no corporate interests, 572 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: no nothing, and you can't cancel me. I love it 573 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: when they try. I love hearing this, Clay, This is 574 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: what we need people, even irrespect of their specific politics. 575 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Those look not everyone. People listening this will write in 576 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: They'll say, oh, but you know, if I speak out, 577 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I'll lose my job. I'm like, look, if you're the 578 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: junior accountant at X y Z Corporation, I don't want 579 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: you getting fired from your job and not able to 580 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: pay your bills and you know, have your wife or 581 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: your husband all stressed out because you want to post 582 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: something political? Okay, there are you know you got to 583 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have I always say, have a planned to 584 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: charge the machine gun nests. Don't just run up the hill. 585 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: If you're kid Rock, you're in this analogy effectively bulletproof. 586 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: There are people like that. They need to leave the 587 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: charge of I'm not going to play this game anymore. Yeah, 588 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: that's what's always been so frustrating. To me about cancel 589 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: culture in general is the people who already have enough resources. 590 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: And I put myself in this category. Now if I 591 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't think that I could be 592 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: easily canceled, right, but I have the resources to be 593 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: able to say exactly what I think all day, every day. 594 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: And there are so many people out there in business, politics, 595 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: entertainment that also have the resources to say exactly what 596 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: they believe, and they're still afraid to do so. And 597 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: I've seen this before, Buck, But if you don't say 598 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: fu every now and then, what's the point of having 599 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: FU money. It is a conversation that I've had with 600 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people who agree with much of what 601 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: you or I might say, but they're like, oh, I'm 602 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: afraid of what happened to me, And so you've got 603 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in the bank, why do you care? 604 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Like your family's gonna be funny? You don't even have 605 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: to say anything crazy. You just have to say a 606 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: man as a man. I mean, there's things that you 607 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: can say that would get you in trouble. No one's 608 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: asking someone, you know. You don't have to be some 609 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: free speech radical who is out there on the our 610 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: most basic the fundamental right you have as a human being, 611 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: never mind as an American, to say what is observable, 612 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: fact and true without reprisal against you from a society 613 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: around you is something that is under assault right now. 614 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: They are attacking fundamental, obvious truth and telling people to 615 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: bend the knee over it. That's what you know. We're 616 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: not even I wish we could sit here and say, oh, 617 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: why can't we all just say whatever and say that 618 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, no, that's not say whatever? Is now a 619 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: man as a man? Well, it's crazy as buck even 620 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: saying women should not compete against men. Most sports writers 621 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: are afraid to say it because they're afraid they might 622 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: lose their jobs. I mean, that's the world that we're 623 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: in right now. And I understand it. If you make 624 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year and you've got a couple 625 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: of kids in school, and you're fifty eight years old 626 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: and you're trying to close out the rest of your career, 627 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I understand why you could be incredibly nervous about that. 628 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: But I mean the people who actually have real ability, 629 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: Like why does Stephen A. Smith, who is the most 630 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: powerful person at ESPN, why won't he go on his 631 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: show and say, Hey, you know what, I'm fine with 632 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: people choosing their gender if they want to, but dude 633 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be swimming against girls. Because of how woke ESPN is. 634 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: He's got enough money to live on for the rest 635 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: of his life. He's being a coward. He won't say it. 636 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: People who are used to being celebrated by the elites, 637 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: and they're used to making twenty million dollars a year 638 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: want that to continue, even though they don't really need it. 639 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't make much difference to them one way or 640 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: the other at a certain point. But it's all ego 641 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: at that level. You know, you want to be the 642 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: guy or the gal who's invited to the fancy cocktail 643 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: parties where the people who are important and powerful and rich. 644 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: I'll get to sit around and determined that we're not 645 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: allowed to separate women from men in sports anymore. And 646 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy. You want to take some calls, let's do it. 647 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Edward in what Toma, Wisconsin? What's up? Edward? Hey guys, um, 648 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: I just have to say real quick, you guys are 649 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: doing a great job. Rush should be proud. Thank you 650 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: so much, appreciate that Anyway, m clay, you're about a 651 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: thousand times as intelligent as I am, and I just 652 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: think way, way, way over your skis on this Hunter 653 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: Biden indictment thing. Um, I have a theory. Why the 654 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: New York Times is you know? What's your theory? Oh? 655 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: I think that they know Joe Biden can't make another 656 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: three years. I think they're plugging their noses, and I 657 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: think they're getting ready to try to push them out 658 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: and shove Kamala in there. It's an interesting theory. Buck, 659 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: here's my theory. You can grab this audio and we 660 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: can play it. I'll sound like an idiot. I think 661 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: Hunter is going to be charged. I think that when 662 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: Hunter gets charged, they will try and stretch out the 663 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: cases and Joe Biden and not gonna run again. He'll 664 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: announce early in twenty twenty three, and at some point 665 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: he will pardon his son for all the misgivings and 666 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: misdoings and ride off into the sunset. I think I'm 667 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna be eating a rat you prefecture steak at sixteen 668 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: or thirty two dollars announce I think it is, and 669 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: looking at you and saying origato, mister Travis for the 670 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: very expensive Kobe Beef. I might invite Miranda Divine because 671 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: she agrees with me. I might go ahead and bring 672 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: her out for Ashlets do wait, I'll take her. We'll 673 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: take her out to stakes too. But we're not done 674 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: on this one, folks, We're not done on any of this. 675 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: We got so much more for you tomorrow. Thanks for 676 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: rolling with us. Play and Buck over and out Flat 677 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth,