1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Gino, look, go way 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: up over the top. Gott a man out there. Pitterfucker, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: he's got a touchdown. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Seyhawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: Ertz drops back, Hastime loads up, throws aj Brown the defense. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Don't you keep your feet? Him be does? Seyhawks Ball? 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony, 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. Welcome to 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: another winning week, which I think, presumably John Boyle means 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: another winning Seahawks Insiders podcast. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Aren't they all that? That is me? 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: You got me there, you got me there. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: We bring our a game every week. That is, the. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: Seahawks had brought their a game. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: But before we get to football conversation, there's a much 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: bigger piece of news inside the building this week. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: Steph had our boy last night and both are happy 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 5: and healthy. Man, it's kind of a crazy Steven to 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 5: say out loud, but yeah, we're just we're really excited, 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: really blessed obviously, man, what uh, what women can do 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: is just an unbelievable thing. So what a what a 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: warrior she is and she's she's awesome. So just uh 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 5: just now see you here later on at the hospital. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 5: But uh, just I think it's an incredible, credible night 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: and just thankful for everybody at the hospital and the 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: doctors and nurses. I mean, those people are a plus 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: plus and what they do, it's pretty pretty awesome that 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 5: that's what they do every day and the stuff they 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: work through. So just really blessed, really excited. Uh, I 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: can't wait to see him again tonight and uh here 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 5: we go. 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 6: Yes, congrats to Mike and Stephanie on there the boy 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 6: named Jack. Very exciting and it was nice of Jack 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 6: to come early in the week. Is not while he 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 6: was in New York right and then early in the 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 6: week so he's back at Print. 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean I joked with Julian Love. Yes, I was like, man, 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: why didn't you get it this easy? 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 6: You were having to fly to Nashville on a Saturday 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 6: after the team already left, and oh yeah, worked out 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 6: worked out pretty well. But very exciting times. I mean, 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: it's a crazy year that that family has had there. 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: It really is about here. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: He becomes a head coach and now first child. It's 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 6: very eventful. 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: And what did he say, don't confuse hope for a 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: plan where he was hoping that this right? 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: But you know, it's a critical stretch of games for 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: the Seahawks. 52 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Hopefully Jack means that there's some good luck still in store. 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, not that the Seahawks need luck. You 54 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: know what they've actually needed the last few weeks just 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: their defense. Yeah, holy cow, we can officially say that 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: they have turned the corner. 57 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I think you know, won two games, like, okay, 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: this is good, but can they sustain it? But they've 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 6: done it for four games now. One was lost to 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 6: the Rams, but four games of really good defense against 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 6: some good offenses, some really good offensive minds, good quarterbacks, 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 6: good running backs. This isn't a oh they beat so 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 6: and so, but this is their quarterback. But they didn't 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 6: have this star running back like. They've been beaten some 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 6: pretty good teams. 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: And they have held guys in check that had been 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: getting some big yards, including James Connor. The last time 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: these teams played. Kind of a weird matchup considering that 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: Seattle just saw Arizona a couple of weeks ago, so 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: it's hard to tell what's the same, what's going to 71 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: be different about that, and just what kind of an 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: impact Leonard Williams can have a get because I really 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: feel like there is a chance for whether it's Leo 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: or one of our other defenders to get Player of 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: the Week for a third straight week. 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 6: I mean, here's the thing. We saw what he did 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: to the Cardinals in the last game. They obviously remember that. 78 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 6: So one of two things is going to happen. If 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 6: they do things the same, I think he's gonna have 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 6: another great game, or if they try to adjust and 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: say we got to stop this guy. That's going to 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 6: be opportunity for other players, because, as Mike McDonald's point out, yes, 83 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 6: Lennon Williams been getting numbers lately, but a lot of 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 6: guys in that defensive front are playing really well to 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: make that happen. So if you shift too much attention 86 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 6: to how are we going to keep Leonard Williams from 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 6: wrecking the game, There's going to be opportunity for Jaron Reed, 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: There's going to be opportunity for Byron Murphy. There's going 89 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: to be players who can take advantage of whatever they 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 6: have to do to stop Leonard. 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Williams well, and here's the thing, so he really feasted 92 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: on the interior of that Cardinals offensive line, which includes 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: Evan Brown, our former center last year. Right, they did 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: change things against Minnesota last week because for as tough 95 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: as it was to find yards on the ground against 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: the Seahawks, they were over one thirty I think against 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: the Viking. So something changed on that front to get 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray a little bit more in somewhere they were 99 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: getting pushed. I'm not sure how they did it with 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: the same personnel in the middle of that offensive line, 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: but they did show that they can come out with 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: a different game plan. 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 104 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: I mean, look what Arizona has done offensively really for 105 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 6: going back to before Thereby and their four game winning streak, 106 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 6: They've been a really good offense, really efficient. Kyler Murray's 107 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 6: playing well, their run game has been good. So I 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: mean that makes it more impressive what the Seahawks did 109 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: a couple weeks ago. But you can't just look at 110 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: we held this team to six points. We heard held 111 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 6: James Connor at eight yards on seven carries and assume 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 6: it's just going to be an easy, dominant performance. 113 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Again, agreed, especially when you look at what that defense 114 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals has done at home. I don't want 115 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: to go past the Leonard Williams conversation without saying this. 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: And I am like jumping up and down on the 117 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: sidelines as I watched the big man run. 118 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: He was moving. 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: Do you know that he always wanted to be a 120 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: running back. 121 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: I saw that. He told you played some rugby when 122 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: he played rugby. 123 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: So here's the thing. 124 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: He has always been so big that he has been 125 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: too big to play pop worn or football. So he 126 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: did not start playing football until he was fourteen years old. 127 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: And when he was fourteen, they just stuck him on 128 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. And he said, come on, 129 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: like you had to have played something on offense. Every 130 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: high level player I've ever known has played both ways 131 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: at some point in time. He was like, nope, I 132 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: was too big. They put me on the defensive side. 133 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: That's where I was. But I always wanted to be 134 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: a running back. I mean he looked really natural. 135 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: Him playing high school running BA would have been really off. 136 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: It would have been dangerous. 137 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have. 138 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 6: Been right because sure you know by NFL running back Ctentards. 139 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: He might not look fast, but on a high school 140 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: field that speed would be pretty pretty eligal. 141 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: He hit seventeen miles an hour. 142 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: He was cruising. 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: I just I can't even imagine running that fast. And 144 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: then what was he He was looking to pitch the 145 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: ball and he. 146 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Realized I said that. 147 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 6: He said in midfield he didn't think he was gonna 148 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: make it, and he was looking for someone to pitch 149 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 6: it to. And then he looks around and all he 150 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 6: sees his teammates. He's like, oh, all right, that's pretty cool. 151 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: Keep going. 152 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 4: I'll take that. 153 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 154 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: I'd like to point out, you know, the thing that 155 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald wanted to see more from his defense was takeaways, 156 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: and they have an interception now in six straight games. 157 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, six and two straight. 158 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: Six and two straight games. 159 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about this matchup and what it actually 160 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: looks like this week. When you think about Arizona, that 161 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: defense has been good at home. So the Cardinals have 162 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: lost two eight games on the road, They've actually won 163 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: three straight at home. They've held opponents in each of 164 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: those games without a touchdown. Their defense has not allowed 165 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: a touchdown at home since week four. 166 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: What does that mean. 167 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 6: John, I mean Seahawks are gonna have to be better 168 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 6: and more consistent on offense than they have been in 169 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 6: recent games. I mean, as much as we love what 170 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 6: we've seen on defense, the offense, as you know, they've 171 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 6: come up with some really clutch drives when they need them. 172 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 6: They've made some big plays, but they've not got the 173 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 6: production that they really want in a few games now 174 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: where it's you know, they're struggling either. Some games has 175 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 6: been turnovers. They turned the ball over last week on offense, 176 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 6: which was big for them. But you know, I think 177 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 6: this a lot of this goes back to what's been 178 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 6: a very inconsistent run game, and you're putting yourself in 179 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 6: tough their downs, it's hard to stay on the fields, 180 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 6: to stay and drives. 181 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: We saw a few glimpses in the second half. I 182 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: feel like in the wrong game. 183 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 6: We can say the court, yardage, read zone stuff for 184 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 6: another conversation, but overall, I think we saw progress in 185 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 6: the wrong game last week, and to me, that'd be 186 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 6: a really good way to jump start the offense this week. 187 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what you're going to get against 188 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: that defense in Arizona. I think what surprised me in 189 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: New York was that was a Jets defense that for 190 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: being top ten. 191 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: We talked about this last week. 192 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: They were getting up one thirty on the ground a 193 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: game and yet you end up playing to your average, 194 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: not to their average. At the end of that game, 195 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: we did see a change at right guard. We saw 196 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: Satoa Lemea go the entire way, and it sounds like 197 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: that's exactly what we're gonna get this week. 198 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 5: As a plan right now, there's a couple couple of 199 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: mentals to start out the game made, but you know, 200 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 5: talking about rookie playing his first meaningful NFL action, But 201 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: you know, we felt him out there. I thought he 202 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: did a great job getting used to the game. So 203 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: excited about him. But that's the plan right now to 204 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 5: stick with with. 205 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 6: Tow Yeah, I mean, it's not going to be perfect. 206 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 6: That was not just his first start. He had been 207 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 6: inactive every game this season, so his first regular season 208 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 6: action period. It's not going to be perfect. There's gonna 209 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 6: be mistakes, but overall, he looked really good out there. 210 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 6: I talked to Lake and Tomlinson, their their veteran left guard, 211 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: and he was really impressed with just how well he 212 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 6: handled that, everything that comes with first start on the road, 213 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 6: and you know, really cool moment for him. He had 214 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: one of the key blocks on what ended up being 215 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 6: the game winning touchdown round to help open a hole 216 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 6: for Zach Sharbernay. So yeah, really encouraging stuff. You know, 217 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 6: he's got to build on it and get a little better. 218 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 6: But you know, this line has had a hard time 219 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 6: finding consistency, whether it's just been the competition at that 220 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 6: right guard spot or injuries. But if they can find 221 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 6: a mix and kind of finish the season strong and 222 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 6: then maybe we see that run gave me a going. 223 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: He was a postgame interview last week in the clubhouse. 224 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: The first time I've really talked to him since the draft. 225 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean there's been some hellos, but yeah, the first 226 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: time I've really had an extended conversation since the draft. 227 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: And he said, yeah, I was nervous. It took a 228 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: little while. 229 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: So you hear Mike McDonald say there was some mentals 230 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: there on the first few, so mental mistakes. If you 231 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: didn't hear that all the way, and he said, yeah, 232 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: I was nervous. I did feel jitters. It took me 233 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 3: at least a series before I like settled. 234 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: In and difficult to settle in. 235 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: Think about how that first quarter of the game against 236 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: the Jets played out, like there's no offen and snaps 237 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: to get into a rhythm. 238 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you turn it over on two kickoffs in the 239 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: first half. It's like there weren't a lot of opportunities 240 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 6: for that offense. And oh, by the way, number ninety 241 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 6: five on that shit's defense, pretty good player, Quinn Yahiam. 242 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 6: So you're dealing with, you know, one of the league's 243 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 6: best interior linemen and as you said, a really weird, 244 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 6: disjointed half of football. 245 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: It was. 246 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 3: It was Leslie Fraser who was going up and down 247 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: the bench, who was reminding guys, hey, look there's still 248 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: a lot of football to play in this one, you know, 249 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: just look at the next step. He's been an interesting 250 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: one we got to hear from this week. 251 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: That's fun, which I loved. 252 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was for good reason, right, he 253 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: fills in because Mike McDonald is with his wife at 254 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: the hospital having the baby, all of those things. It's 255 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: fun to hear from Leslie. He is so measured all 256 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: the time. 257 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's so calm, Yeah, which is a great trait 258 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: for that role of like you're there to support a 259 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 6: first year head coach. And you know, I talked, We 260 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 6: talked to Mike McDonald about this before the season, and 261 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: I talked to Leslie Fraser this summer, and you know, 262 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 6: I think sometimes people think like assistant head coach is 263 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 6: sort of this like figurehead. Let's just like give a 264 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 6: guy title because he's been around a long time. Like 265 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 6: that's a really important role for mc McDonald, who he 266 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 6: recognized as much as I know about defense, and I 267 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 6: you know, obviously the Seahawks think highly of him to 268 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 6: make him a head coach. He's never done the job before. 269 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 6: And there's a lot to that job as a head 270 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 6: coach that you just you can't know till you've done it. 271 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 6: So to have a guy at Leslie Fraser who's been 272 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 6: around the NFL for decades, who's been a head coach, 273 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 6: he's been a lot of places, that's a huge resource 274 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 6: for mc McDonald. And there, you know, you watch practice, 275 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 6: you see them in the halls, like they're together a lot. 276 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 6: He's this is not a guy that's just sort of there. 277 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: It's like Mike McNall's bouncing a lot off Leslie Fraser 278 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: every day well. 279 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: And for the background that Leslie Fraser has on defense, 280 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: he's equally involved in the offense and he has been 281 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: able to watch Mike grow so he can kind of 282 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: be the go between. And he was really open. He 283 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: said it a little bit on Monday. He said it 284 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: in the preseason. You know, seven years ago, I would 285 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: have never been able to picture Mike McDonald's standing up 286 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: in front of a team and leading them, and now 287 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: he is doing phenomenally well in that position. 288 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: So it's kind of. 289 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: Cool to have that perspective where you see the growth 290 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: and you see where this can go. 291 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: For sure. 292 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting because Leslie Fraser was essentially McDonald's boss. 293 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: He was not the head coach, but he was a 294 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 6: secondary coach and McDonald's a young assistant working with the secondary. 295 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: So roles changed a little bit. 296 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 6: But it's really fun to see you get that perspective 297 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: from Leslie Fraser on Mike McDonald. 298 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony, 299 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. The Hawks 300 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: heading on the road this week. They've been pretty good. 301 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: They've been four and one on the road this one 302 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: has a lot of implications, and we expect to see 303 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: a lot of Seahawks fans down in the desert, which 304 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: is why I will still be using some noise canceling 305 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: headphones in this NFL season. You can feel every play, hit, 306 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: every moment with a Sony one thousand XM five noise 307 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: canceling headphones, the official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. With 308 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: premium noise cancelation, you were in the zone, no distractions, 309 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: just pure football. Whether you are in your living room 310 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: or on the go, you will never miss a beat 311 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: with Sony headphones. It is true the Seahawks fans are 312 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: far louder in Arizona than the Cardinals. 313 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just true. 314 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: They have great fans. 315 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: I think you know a it's a fun and easy 316 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 6: place for Seahawks fans to travel in December. 317 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's warm. I haven't looked. 318 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna take for granted mid toubber seventies. Oh perfect, beautiful. Yeah, 319 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: that might even be open the roof weather. That would 320 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 6: be so fine. Window they have there between when it's 321 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 6: too hot and then when you. 322 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: Start I think there's also an issue with sunlight blinding 323 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: some of the people in maybe, so, I mean it 324 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: doesn't affect me on the field, well, I mean it's 325 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: lovely if they wanted to open. 326 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 6: A great place for Seahawks fan to travel, and b 327 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 6: I just think there's a lost SIAX fans down there. 328 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 6: So yeah, it gets pretty loud and a lot of 329 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 6: the green and blue jerseys and hopefully hopefully we get 330 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 6: more of that. 331 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: Hopefully we do this week. 332 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: According to Aaron Shatz of NFL, he's done a number 333 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: of things around the NFL, but he's a shats NFL 334 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: on X. Seahawks at Cardinals is by far the most 335 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: important game of the week for the playoff picture. In 336 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: their simulations, the Seahawks win would make the Seahawks sixty 337 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: two percent likely to make the playoffs, with the Cardinals 338 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: at seventeen percent. If the Cardinals win, it's seventy one 339 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: percent for Arizona eleven percent for Seattle. Those numbers sound 340 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: about right, Yeah. 341 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 6: I mean you look at where they are in the 342 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: standings and tiebreaker stuff, where if the Seahawks win, it 343 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 6: doesn't only open up a two game lead, it's a 344 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: two game lead with a tiebreaker with four games to play. 345 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: That's a I mean, look, we got you stuff. 346 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: For about the other teams in the division, they're not 347 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 6: out of it either, but for the top two teams 348 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 6: right now, that's a huge siding factor. And if the 349 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: Cardinals beat you, you're tied up, and they're going to 350 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 6: have the tiebreakers with conference record and the division record. 351 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and the Seahawks' schedule, if you look at strength 352 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: of schedule, is actually harder than the Cardinals. That's another 353 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: bid because you've still got Green Bay and Minnesota coming up. 354 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: You've got Chicago in weather like I know what the 355 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: record says for the Bears, but that is a tough 356 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: place to play the day after Christmas, and then the 357 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Rams are a tough matchup. 358 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 6: All right, Chicago especially, you're going on a short week, 359 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: and they as much as their record doesn't look good, 360 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: they've been competitively. They're pushing teams to the finish. So 361 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 6: I don't look at any game left on the schedule 362 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 6: and think, oh, that's an easy win. I guess it's 363 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 6: gonna be tough. And you're right that the Cardinals have 364 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 6: a little bit easier of a path, So why getting 365 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 6: this one for the Seahawks would be mighty mighty big. 366 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: You know what's kind of interesting about this is that 367 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: we know the implications of this. This is the first 368 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: season in fourteen years players have talked about the implications 369 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: of a single game in December, right, it's a little different. 370 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: It's a little different. It's not bad. 371 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 6: It's just I don't think it's as different as people 372 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 6: are making it out to be, because with Pete Carroll, 373 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 6: it was every week's the same, treated all the same, 374 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 6: every week's tam and they're talking about this being like 375 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: a playoff game. But basically what they've been saying is 376 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 6: every week's a playoff game, because it's this isn't language, 377 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: but they're sescentially saying it's the biggest game we have 378 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 6: right now. And I can remember who the players, but 379 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 6: somebody said, like made that comment, like this is the 380 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 6: game we have this week, and so it's not as 381 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 6: I don't think they're sitting here looking at the playoff 382 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 6: odds right now, and I don't think they're looking at oh, 383 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 6: Arizona's got Carolina while we have to play Green Bay 384 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 6: Like I don't think they're looking and treating it like 385 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: we are. I do think though, just just more of 386 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: a difference of language, but it's still the ultimate goal 387 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 6: of that language is to focus on this game and 388 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 6: make this game the big deal. And that's what Pee 389 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 6: Carroll's trying to to do as well. He just worded 390 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 6: it a little differently. 391 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you were going to be playing playoff 392 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: type games in December, you've got to have all three 393 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: phases going. We've talked to a little offense, a little defense. 394 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Special teams is a big conversation. Yeah, it's a big conversation. 395 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: And look, we know what, Let's focus on the positives, 396 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: all right. Jason Myers seven field goals this year, a 397 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: fifty yards or more. He has been absolute money. Michael 398 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: Dixon can flip the field better than anybody else. He's 399 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: dealing with backspacsens. The return game for the Seahawks on 400 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: kickoff returns has been pretty good this year, but their 401 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: top returner. 402 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm sensing a however. 403 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: Was released and you're coming off a game where I 404 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: mean it just it looked like the wheels fell off 405 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: on special teams. 406 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 6: OUs rough like to turn it over twice and put 407 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 6: a third kickoff on the ground that they were able 408 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 6: to recover. Like that's just a disaster. You had a 409 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 6: kick block, you gave up a ninety nine yard touchdown return. 410 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 6: To do all that and win is pretty amazing, by 411 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 6: the way, but it's it was rough to see and. 412 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and to the point where I actually thought maybe 413 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: they were trying some different alignments, like maybe they had 414 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: schemed up something different that they'd seen on film and 415 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: it just like Jets went away from that. Patrick O'Connell, 416 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: who was on special teams for fourteen snaps every team 417 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: except punt team, said it was a case of people 418 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 3: trying to do too much for whatever reason that is. 419 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: He attributed a lot of that to trying to do 420 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: too much however they got there. The Seahawks have some 421 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: question marks that they're looking to answer before Sunday. 422 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd say, like both returner spots and the punt 423 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: and the kickoff return game we're working through still, so 424 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 5: we don't have an answer quite yet. We have some 425 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 5: people that we're going to be working at those spots, 426 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 5: d included, So I just don't have an answer for 427 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: you exactly what we're gonna do right now. 428 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 429 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: So Dee Williams, he's been one of their two kick 430 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: returners all year and their punt returner as Mike McDonald, 431 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: he'll be in the mix, but it's not a lock 432 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 6: he's going to be back there. He did have one 433 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 6: of those fumbles. He has muffed a couple punts this year, 434 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: so it hasn't been as clean as you'd like from 435 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: the rookie. Who's it gonna be, We'll have to wait 436 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: and see, you know. I know Penny McIntosh has done 437 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 6: it in the past. We saw Zach Sharbone back there 438 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: in the short portion open to the media yesterday. Derek 439 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 6: Young's been back there for returns in the past, so 440 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 6: he's another option they could look at. 441 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. Trey Brown has some return experience. 442 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: I don't know if he've done it in an NFL game, 443 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 6: but he's definite done it in training camp, he did 444 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 6: it in college. So we'll have to see what they 445 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 6: do with that position. But yeah, I mean it's I mean, 446 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 6: you'd love to get some big returns and some big plays, 447 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 6: but more an anything, you just need to be ball 448 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: secure like you can't. 449 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we saw that you can't sacrifice yards, and 450 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: you can't be starting from deep in your own. 451 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Territory, and most of all, you can't be given the 452 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: ball away. 453 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's going back real quick to Jayson Myers 454 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 6: before we get off special teams. That fifty four yard 455 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: field goal, given everything going on special teams was like, 456 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: to me, the underrat to play the game. 457 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Leo had to play the. 458 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 6: Game, but I think all this when they went out 459 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 6: to kick that field goal, We're like, oh God, what's 460 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: gonna happen? Like, is it gonna get blocked? 461 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: Is it? 462 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 6: I was like, snap over somebody's head, They're going to 463 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 6: return it for a touch Like I was thinking the worst. 464 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: So for him in bad weather, cold. 465 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 6: Windy day to drill that, that was a pretty big 466 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: moment I think to maybe settle some people down on 467 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 6: special teams. 468 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: And the fact that Michael Dixon was able to finish 469 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: the game holding. 470 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: You see him getting up and down when you had 471 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: to get down to hold it. 472 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: I was watching him on the sidelines the entire time 473 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: and nothing happened, and he said that he was like 474 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I just I went to go 475 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: and like you know, grab the ball, and my back 476 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: just tightened up and he was in some obvious pain. 477 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: And they worked for a very long time and he 478 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: came back out of the locker room and I watched 479 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: him like go through one motion, and you know, kind 480 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: of the word was if you had to get him, Like, 481 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: if he had to he was going to be able 482 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: to do it once and. 483 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Then he's going to be probably laying on the ground. 484 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: It was, I mean, my gosh, Like but I don't 485 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 3: think people realize how big of a deal that is, 486 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: because if you put Brady Russell out there, first of all, 487 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: you had windy conditions, it is cold. It is a 488 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: big time play in a big time game. I'm not 489 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 3: saying Brady Russell can't do it. You don't want your 490 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: backup holder out there that whole Like the mechanics of 491 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: all that. 492 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 6: It seems so routine because they practiced all the time, 493 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: but a lot can go wrong if you change one 494 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 6: element of it. 495 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: See X. 496 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 6: Fans who've been watching this team for a while might 497 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: remember twenty thirteen against the Titans, Steven how she gets 498 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 6: hurt making a tackle. It's the end of the half. 499 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 6: They decided to John Ryan out to kick a short 500 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: field goal. You're thinking, of course it happens, maybe they 501 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 6: miss it. Not a big deal. It's the end of 502 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 6: the half. No, Chris Maragos filling in as a holder, 503 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 6: can't quite recover it or can't quite handle it. He 504 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 6: gets up and runs, bumbles, goes the other way. I 505 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 6: don't know, ninety yards for a touchdown. So nothing against 506 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: Chris Maragos wasn't his position. But that's just a good 507 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 6: example of it might not seem like a big deal. 508 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: Oh he's the backup holder, but that's a more complex 509 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: play than people realize because they just make it looks soroutine. 510 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: Also, it is a much different process to kick a 511 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: field goal than to punt the ball. So for people 512 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: who said, why didn't Jason Myers just go out there 513 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: and punt, look, I watched him practice doing that a 514 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: few times on the sideline. 515 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: No idea where that ball was going to go. 516 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying like, yeah, just because you can go 517 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: through the motion does not mean that that is a given. 518 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: So, nor has he spent a lot of time catching 519 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: snaps for well, there is that, which is a totally 520 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: different play as well. 521 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 4: Yes, and you actually would have to change your shit 522 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: for that. 523 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: A kicker has different shoes and like he likes them 524 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: tighter and differently. You don't really want that bouncing off 525 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: the top of your foot. We are broadcasting from the 526 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, the official headphones partner 527 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: of the Seattle Seahawks. Let's get back to a couple 528 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: of things that we need to consider on Sunday. We're 529 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: thinking about special teams. You're thinking about bottling up James Connor. 530 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: Trey McBride is actually the one who racked up the 531 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: most yards against the Seahawks in that first meeting one 532 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three. And yet do you know this, 533 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: John he holds the NFL record. He has seventy three 534 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: receptions this year, zero touchdown catches, just two touchdowns, but 535 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: not off of passes. Oh really, He's got one that 536 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: was a fumble and one that was a designed run. 537 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, how about that. 538 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: When I looked at this staling, I's like, man, he's 539 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 6: having a great Wait a minute, the touchdown. Oh yeah, 540 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: you think like tight ends past catching tight ends being 541 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: these really good red zones. 542 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: I know, let's not jinx it though, I know. 543 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: I know. Well, I would say like knock on wood 544 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: or just like count on the Seahawks defense. But it's 545 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: not just slowing him down as we mentioned as a 546 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: pass catcher, he's going to affect the game. 547 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: In a lot of ways. 548 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 5: Well, I think I think it happens really in all 549 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: three phases. Both in the drop back game. He's a 550 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 5: really good route runner, so he can get open on 551 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: his zone in their action stuff, and he's fast enough 552 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: to run away and has a good field for the 553 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 5: zones down the field. And then he arguably makes his 554 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: most damage in the catch and run stuff on some 555 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 5: of the movements and screening in that they have for him, 556 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: so they can get him involved in really their entire drop, 557 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 5: entire passing game. So it's not just like one thing 558 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 5: where you have to eliminate. 559 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 6: The Seahawks obviously want to do a better job against McBride. 560 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 6: We saw one of the plays in that game. My 561 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 6: Mund McDonald looked really angry. Was clearly something got messed 562 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 6: up in the coverage and he was wide open. Well, 563 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 6: this is longer plays, but you made this point, Jen, 564 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 6: Mike McColl's never gonna admit to this, but there's got 565 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 6: to be some sense of like, look if their star 566 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 6: running back has eight yards and we keep them out 567 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 6: of the end zone and Kyler Murray doesn't run all 568 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 6: over us, and their tight end gets one hundred and 569 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: thirty three yards. 570 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: You can kind of live with. 571 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 6: That, Like, again, you're not going to this game saying 572 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: let's just let the tight end get what he can get. 573 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 6: But sometimes a good talented offense Cardinals have a lot 574 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 6: of events. You can't take away every single thing. So 575 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 6: I will gladly trade the overall result last last game 576 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 6: for the one hundred and thirty three yards. But I 577 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 6: also don't want to see him running quite so open 578 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: so often. 579 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: Well, I feel like you're just kind of playing with fire. 580 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: But Mike McDonald did say earlier in the season when 581 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: we asked about explosive plays and how you chart those, 582 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: he goes, look, you can torture the numbers. It really 583 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: comes down to how did that play affect the game. 584 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 3: Seattle was able to keep him in check when it 585 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: mattered because he didn't score and Kyler Murray didn't find 586 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: the end zone. Let's pause right now for a quick 587 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: word from our presenting sponsor. 588 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Statistically, the world is losing color. 589 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: Just consider all white kitchens, beige baby nurseries, a sea 590 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: of gray cars. 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But I do have two new things 601 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: I need to see from the Seahawks. Like I won't 602 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: say new, I have two very specific things I need 603 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: to see from the Seahawks this week to get away, 604 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: all right, let's hear it. Number One, I need to 605 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: see Gino stay upright, because the Cardinals had five sacks 606 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: in that first mission, say turned down exactly. In fact, 607 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, where was my number? I think they've racked 608 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: up twenty six sacks in the last three games, and 609 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 3: five of those came against Gino Smith, So keep him 610 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: upright on the defensive side of things, red zone defense. 611 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 3: You might remember that when the Cardinals came to town, 612 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: there were sixteen for sixteen in goal to go situations. 613 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: They are now zero for three in those situations the 614 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, just one for eight in the 615 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 3: red zone the last two weeks. So red zone defense, 616 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: step up and keep those numbers, keep that trend going 617 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: downward for the Cardinals. 618 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: I like that, and you. 619 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 6: We talked about this earlier, but I think a big 620 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: overall issue at the Seahawks offense not functioning as well 621 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 6: as they wants been the run game. And again we 622 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 6: saw some glimpses in the second half, and I just 623 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: want to see a more productive run game, you know, 624 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 6: get somewhere from the one hundred, one hundred and twenty 625 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 6: rushing yard, like designed rushing yards, not not the forty 626 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 6: yard or thirty yard Geno Smith scramble, which I like, 627 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 6: I'll take it, but I want some Ken Walker, Zach 628 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 6: Charbonnay rushing yards. 629 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: And then I want to keep the turnovers going. Get 630 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: another interception. 631 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 6: I mean, we could be greedy and say another defensive touchdown, 632 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 6: but let's just have two takeaways. 633 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: Don't care how I feel like you're a little greedy 634 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: on both of those. So why not just you know, 635 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: go for the home run. 636 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Two hundred rushing yards and pick six is nice. 637 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you're averaging eighty seven rushing yards a game, 638 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: and you don't think one twenty is greedy? 639 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 6: Said, between one hundred and one hundred and twenty, I 640 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 6: put a range, and no, I don't think it's greedy. Okay, 641 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 6: I think it's I think this offense can be better, 642 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 6: and I'm just I think I'm like the parent who 643 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 6: expects more out of their children. 644 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: The B minus isn't gonna cut it. 645 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you can do better. That's all. 646 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: We started with parenthood talk. 647 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: We're going to end with parenthood talk, and we'll be 648 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: back next week for another edition of the Seahawks Insiders 649 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: podcast