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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 2: Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, January twenty fifth, and we are ninety

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Speaker 3: one days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: As we welcome you into the Draft Show presented by

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Speaker 3: Miller lightlive from the SWBC studios. Here at the Star

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Speaker 3: in Frisco, we have Nick Harris, Brian brought us, Zach Waltschuk.

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Speaker 2: And filling in.

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Speaker 3: Today we have a very very special guest from the

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Speaker 3: Athletic the one the only, Dane Brugler joins us prior

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Speaker 3: to Shrine Bowl in town.

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Speaker 2: What's up Dane?

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Speaker 4: Hey, how are you guys? This feels right, you know,

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Speaker 4: it feels so good be back.

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Speaker 5: I mean Frisco and the Cowboys they hold such a

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Speaker 5: close place to my heart. After I graduated college, came

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Speaker 5: down here, lived here for ten years. Any chance I

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Speaker 5: have to come back, I'm here. And so when the

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Speaker 5: Shrine Bowl announced they're moving to Frisco, yeah, fist pump,

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Speaker 5: it's going to get to go to Frisco now on

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Speaker 5: my scouting tour through the draft process. So this is

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Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of fun. I'm excited you guys,

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Speaker 5: welcome me back.

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Speaker 2: You've got a little twinkle in your eye.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the new studio lights or

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Speaker 3: what it actually ends up being, but it does.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit different in the last time you

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Speaker 2: made it in here.

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Speaker 3: And we've always said, as I knocked your laptop over,

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Speaker 3: we've always said that the invitation's open, and we mean it.

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Speaker 3: Anytime Danes in town, we're gonna make it happen. And

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Speaker 3: this is the beginning of a very busy, busy couple

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Speaker 3: of months for you, right, Oh, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean for all of us. Really, this the All

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Speaker 4: Star season is. We're in the midst of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've had the Hula Bowl, We've had College

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Speaker 5: grid Ironer Showcase with down the road in Fort Worth.

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Speaker 4: Starting this weekend is the Shrine Game.

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Speaker 5: The Shrine Bowl, you know, one of the oldest All

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Speaker 5: Star game, and it's been It was in I mean

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Speaker 5: how many places.

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Speaker 4: It was in Tampa for a while, yeah, with the Vegas.

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Speaker 6: I remember when it was in Palo Alto forever out

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Speaker 6: in California. That's one of my first experience of going

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Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety two. But you're absolutely right story historically, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've played in this game. Yeah, even recently. I

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Speaker 5: mean Brock Purty played in this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You look at some of the quarterbacks that were starting

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Speaker 5: in the NFL this year as rookies, Aidan O'Connell with

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Speaker 4: So there will be plenty of talent.

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Speaker 5: Here this week for us to get our eyes on

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Speaker 5: and figure out, figure them out before we get through

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Speaker 5: the Combine Pro Days workouts.

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Speaker 4: So it's a it's a good first step.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're certainly glad you're here in getting a chance

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Speaker 3: to catch up with you in studio.

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Speaker 7: Brian.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the OG's, he's he's the

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Speaker 6: When Ed Cahill had had the idea about it, Derek Eagleton,

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Speaker 6: you know, we all talked about it, and then Dane

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Speaker 6: know he just came off as this like man, this

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Speaker 6: was perfect for what we were trying to do to

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Speaker 6: launch the Draft show. And uh, I'll always be indebted

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Speaker 6: to to Dane for all the years of service. We

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Speaker 6: were laughing earlier in this little pre show talk about

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Speaker 6: how he used to sell the Beast that that now

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Speaker 6: it's one of these things that NFL executives have on

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Speaker 6: their desks, the Draft Bible.

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Speaker 2: It's really is the Draft Bible.

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Speaker 6: And and and I just remember that the what Dane

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Speaker 2: And and I just was so proud of what he's done.

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Speaker 6: Uh, where he's, where this journey has taken him, and

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys dot Com had a big part of his

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Speaker 2: No doubt, and we always cheer for Dane.

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Speaker 3: He's also I joked about this, but I'm completely serious

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Speaker 3: about it. The only reason I have a subscription to

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Speaker 3: get that yeah to the beast whenever it comes to

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Speaker 3: draft time. And I do a show Monday through Friday

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Speaker 3: with John Machoda of The Athletic and Dame's the reason

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Speaker 3: why I have the Athletic subscription.

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Speaker 8: But shot, John, Josh.

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Speaker 3: I read your articles too, don't worry, but uh really

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Speaker 3: is good to have you. But let's not just sit

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Speaker 3: here and patch shake around. We got to talk some

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Speaker 3: to preview the Senior Bowl coming up in the next segment,

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Speaker 3: and then the Shrine Bowl and the third segment, but

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Speaker 3: just to get us started, your thoughts on where the

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Speaker 3: depth of this draft is, because that's really where Cowboys

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Speaker 3: we got to look at it from a broad stroke

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Speaker 3: standpoint early on. Where do you look if you're trying

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Speaker 5: I think at most years, I'm more excited about Day

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Speaker 4: We're Pro bowlers.

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Speaker 5: There are a ton of Blue Chippers, high end talent,

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Speaker 5: So I'm really excited for the first round. I'm also

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Speaker 5: Like everything, it's one. You know, you look at position

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Speaker 5: I'm convinced wide receiver is going to be deep.

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Speaker 4: Of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody.

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Speaker 5: You know, the top tier athletes in high school and

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Speaker 4: I think there were not eight or nine in that

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Speaker 5: That's kind of how it's played out with the amount

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Speaker 4: So I do think there's a drop off at the position.

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be a guy for you, Dane.

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Speaker 6: When we're all going to like stack our boards at

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Speaker 6: with You know, we always get the questions asked to us,

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Speaker 6: how many first round grades you have.

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Speaker 2: I know we've got all star games.

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Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be around twenty five for me.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I think this is a first round

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Speaker 6: In your in your two round mock draft that you

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Speaker 5: I think the draft process is going to help us

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Speaker 5: figure out what those stacks, how the stack's gonna look,

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Speaker 5: because these guys are all I think, pretty close together

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Speaker 5: and there's no consensus. I think a lot for me

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Speaker 5: so breaking them up between Amarus Amaryu's mems is one

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Speaker 5: of the freakiest dudes I've ever watched playoffensive tackle before

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Speaker 5: because eight starts and how do you teams are going

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Speaker 4: He did in this game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know when you're referencing that game, which

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Speaker 5: Like that kind of tells you how little football he's played.

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Speaker 5: But the length that he plays, with the movement skills,

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Speaker 5: Might have happened to the Cowboys last year with the

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Speaker 10: I'm with you as far as Day two these backs

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Speaker 3: Isn't it funny how we started with broad strokes of

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Speaker 4: You know, it's if you don't have an.

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Speaker 2: you did it.

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Speaker 4: That was one of my favorite fits in that entire fea.

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Speaker 2: I threw a.

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Speaker 5: He's a really good player, and he's a young player.

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Speaker 5: You know, he just heard twenty one years old, literally

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Speaker 5: like this past week. But watch when you watch his

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Speaker 5: film from this year showed me the bad date. I'm

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Speaker 5: still looking, can't.

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Speaker 11: Find it anywhere.

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Speaker 5: He's he was a multi athlete growing up. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's a big time baseball player, basketball, did everything. And

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Speaker 5: then at some point during high school it was like

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Speaker 5: all right, yeah, I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 4: This football thing.

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Speaker 5: Goes to Oregon, played guard as a sophomore, and then

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Speaker 5: this past year's junior was outstanding at center, won their Remington.

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Speaker 5: You look at the size, you like the movement skills,

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Speaker 5: you look at the strength that he plays with the technique.

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Speaker 5: Some of the technique stuff still developing, but he's really

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Speaker 5: far along for a guy that's a first year starter.

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Speaker 5: So first round I think is not too early for him.

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Speaker 5: Him and then even you know Graham Barton from Duke,

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Speaker 5: who we expect to make that move inside the center,

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Speaker 5: played there as a freshman, has that experience. Unfortunately, he

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Speaker 5: won't be at the Senior Bowl. He had labram surgery.

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Speaker 2: And the injuries.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right after Thanksgiving around there. Had had an mcl

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Speaker 5: that was working through through parts of the year. But

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Speaker 5: he's a really quality player that could end up in

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Speaker 5: the first round, and I think a lot of teams

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Speaker 5: will have him as a center on their draft board

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Speaker 5: by the time we get to draft weekend.

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Speaker 4: But this is a pretty good center group.

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Speaker 5: Man Zach Fraser from West Virginia as a future NFL starter,

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Speaker 5: He's probably somewhere in that second round. Cedric van Prant

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Speaker 5: is Okay, I'm not I'm not the biggest fan of his.

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Speaker 5: I think he's more probably more of a fourth.

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Speaker 4: Round guy in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: But even after around that same reign, you know Bo

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Speaker 5: Limmer from from Arkansas. Sure, he's a guy that I

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Speaker 5: think he deserves more love. He's in that kind of

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Speaker 5: similar tier as Cedric Van Prant.

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Speaker 4: So this is.

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Speaker 2: It a tough group overall though, because to me, that's

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Speaker 2: where I.

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Speaker 6: Think, you know, you're looking at the Cowboys, you got

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Speaker 6: tough players but you know, look what's going on in

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Speaker 6: Detroit right now with their center and how with right

491
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Speaker 6: now and how they and how they play, and if

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Speaker 6: you have that tough guy in the middle. I think

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Speaker 6: these guys do have all those traits that you when

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Speaker 6: you start to talk about tought I you need you

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Speaker 6: need him.

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Speaker 3: Yet one there's strac one for zach Walchuk in the

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Speaker 3: draft process. We will keep track almost was.

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Speaker 6: That you got to hit the button there he turned

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Speaker 6: it off. Somebody else make a point, you know here

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Speaker 6: the radio.

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Speaker 9: We can go straight into the We're all right. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 9: Barton was one of the nastiest alignment when I was watching,

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Speaker 9: because that's what you're looking for, the physicality, the grit,

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Speaker 9: the toughness. Barton stands down that way. I think he

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Speaker 9: might be one of those guys. And the medical stuff

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Speaker 9: with him, is that a concern.

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Speaker 5: It's something that yeah, you hope as a scout you

508
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Speaker 5: you don't pay attention to that stuff as much. You

509
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Speaker 5: just right down, here are the injuries and then you

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Speaker 5: cross your fingers when you get the medical report back

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Speaker 5: from after the combine. Just yeah, one day you walk

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Speaker 5: into the war room. I mean, his name's taken off.

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Speaker 6: The Yeah, you're just He's exactly right. You're at the

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Speaker 6: mercy of these doctors. Sometimes you just scout the player

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Speaker 6: and hope for the best.

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Speaker 2: You really really do.

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Speaker 4: In Bart, but you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: He's so stubborn with his hands, the tenasty plays with.

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Speaker 5: That's what everybody wants for an identity on their offensive line.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean you want a tough guy. Zach Frasier.

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Speaker 4: What it was against.

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Speaker 5: Baylor when he broke his leg late in the season

523
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Speaker 5: and he's literally crawling off the field fourth quarter, final

524
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Speaker 5: few minutes, so his team doesn't get a penalty for

525
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Speaker 5: because they ride timeouts and he was injured.

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Speaker 4: I mean, dude has a broken leg.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, toughness is not a worry when you talk

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Speaker 5: about the top three or four centers in this class.

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Speaker 3: So we've got plenty more to come throughout the episode

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Speaker 3: with Dan Brugler. But when we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: and don't like Cedric van Pran and the seniors.

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Speaker 2: You brought up.

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Speaker 3: Cedric van Prant specifically, but we are going to preview

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Speaker 3: let's take a look at the Senior Bowl. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: Jim Nagy and what he's done. I mean, the roster

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Speaker 3: continues to get better and better and better as you

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Speaker 3: go on. And I mean, where do you feel like

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Speaker 3: the strength of this Senior Bowl roster is just based

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Speaker 3: off of initial viewing top to bottom.

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Speaker 5: You can certainly make the argument a tackle like we've

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Speaker 5: been talking about because Tyler Guitan's on the roster, Fuaga

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Speaker 5: or b Yu left tackle.

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Speaker 4: I'm still working on saying his name.

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Speaker 8: Sue.

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Speaker 4: There you go, there, you go, exactly what it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the.

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Speaker 8: Rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: Now, thanks, Now I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'll help you.

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Speaker 3: You know, all right, if you say it on the

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Speaker 3: NFL network, you have to do.

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Speaker 2: You have to quote Brian Come on, man, ten years

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Speaker 2: of working with us here, you know it gets off

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Speaker 2: the rails. Tackle.

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Speaker 4: That's definitely gonna be one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, quarterbacks always drive the conversation, right, uh, Bo

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Speaker 5: Nicks and Michael Panics will both be there. That will

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Speaker 5: be a fun matchup. Box certainly has a chance to go.

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Speaker 2: Are they on the same team, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Which is great because see him back to back practice.

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Speaker 2: Maggie knows what he's doing. Yeah, Reivers, So yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I think it'll be.

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Speaker 5: It was funny when I was doing my mock, you know,

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Speaker 5: because a mock is never what I my rankings, right,

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Speaker 5: you know, I send.

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Speaker 2: Make your last one the best one, right, But I.

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Speaker 5: Mean I send it around to you know, my contacts

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Speaker 5: in the league, and hey, is this about the range

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Speaker 5: you think.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna go what do you think about this?

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Speaker 12: And this?

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Speaker 4: And with it came to bon Nicks. The wide range

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Speaker 4: of where he might go was crazy.

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Speaker 5: It was like some thought third round, some thought, oh,

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Speaker 5: I think he's going top twenty five. So there is

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Speaker 5: a wide range of opinions on bone Knicks. And the

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Speaker 5: Singer Bowl week will be really important, I think for him.

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Speaker 5: And it's kind of strange to say about a five

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Speaker 5: year starter in college football guy that has a ton

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Speaker 5: of tape, but just to see him throw live, and

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Speaker 5: especially going head to head with with Michael Pennix, it'll

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Speaker 5: be important for him a strong week.

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Speaker 6: Can I can I throw a name out who he

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Speaker 6: reminds me of? Yeah, you got Hinden Hooker.

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Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, Oh the.

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Speaker 6: Way he kind of can move around and the way

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Speaker 6: he can launch that thing. It just kind of was

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Speaker 6: I just had that Hinden Hooker vibe to him, with

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Speaker 6: his ability to throw the way he throws the football,

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Speaker 6: that he's got, the kind of the measurables and the

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Speaker 6: mobility and then you know, with the arm talent and

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Speaker 6: stuff like that. I was just thinking, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 6: sometimes like you hold the ball a little long there,

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Speaker 6: but man, he makes this kid makes a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: He it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: At Auburn, he was awful. Yeah, he was a terrible

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Speaker 6: football player at Auburn. I appreciate him when LSU played

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Speaker 6: Auburn and he was quarterback because I knew some bad

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Speaker 6: things weren to happen and then for them, you know.

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Speaker 6: And but he goes to Oregon. They work with him,

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Speaker 6: the mechanics and all that. The way he plays. I

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Speaker 6: mean you could see him working defenses and stuff, you know,

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Speaker 6: with his eyes and how he can move people around

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Speaker 6: and stuff. He has become so much of a better

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Speaker 6: thrower of the football than he was.

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Speaker 5: At organ reinventing yourself as a quarterback to you know,

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Speaker 5: all he knew growing up was SEC football.

663
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah he was his dad. His dad was a fine

664
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Speaker 2: player at Auburn.

665
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 5: As we so to go through that adversity and then

666
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: reinvent yourself at a new place, you know, you give

667
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: him a lot of credit for that. I the one

668
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: thing that kind of bothered me about him was that offense,

669
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 5: I thought, because I mean, you're right, there were some

670
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: examples where he would use his eyes and stuff, but

671
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: I think the offense it made things so simple for

672
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: him in terms of where to go with the football.

673
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: He had one of the quickest times to throw in

674
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: all of college football. Average depth of target that he

675
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 5: was throwing to was under seven yards. I mean he

676
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: was It's just boom boom, boom. Get the ball out and.

677
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 8: To that point really quick because receivers had more yack

678
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 8: than anybody.

679
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly right, and.

680
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 5: That boom boom boom and then try to get him

681
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 5: over the top with you know, that was the offense.

682
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: And hey, it worked out for him, excepting Ainst Washington,

683
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: but it worked out for him in the last I mean,

684
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 5: he had more touchdowns this year than anybody else. You

685
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: have fifty one total touchdowns, and he can he has

686
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 5: some mobility to him. That's a part of his game

687
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 5: as well. So he's a really interesting player. It's funny

688
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: I at the Hendon Hooker comp I was kind of

689
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: making with Michael Pennix.

690
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you have the medicals there. That's a factor.

691
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, just coming from those those offenses where

692
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: you have some pretty good receivers are throwing.

693
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: To interesting arm angles.

694
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: Right older players.

695
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean with Penix, just to see him throw,

696
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 5: I have a third round grade on him. And it's

697
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: funny how draft narratives work. How good he was against Texas.

698
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean just think about think about it.

699
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: They say quinn Ewers connects on that throw to Mitchell

700
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 5: and Texas wins that game. Season over for Michael Pennix.

701
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: But he ends on that note.

702
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: Think about how differently people would think of him based

703
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: off of then how he played against Michigan, which is

704
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: the best defense he's ever faced in his life, the

705
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: closest thing to an NFL defense he's ever faced. It's

706
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: it's just funny how dropt narratives work, because it would

707
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: be so the conversation where Michael Pennox would be so

708
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: different if they lost that game against Texas.

709
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 6: I know this Indiana football has not been the same

710
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: since he left.

711
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: No, Indiana had the same thing. Klen de Bor too, Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.

712
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's the thing about it is.

713
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 6: I think there is a I think there's an it

714
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 6: factor about Michael Pennock.

715
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: There is, I do.

716
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 6: I think there is something about him, the number of

717
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 6: starts he's.

718
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: Made, the big games he had the Michigan game. We

719
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: give Michigan a lot of credit.

720
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 6: Mentor did a great job the defensive coordiner at Michigan

721
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 6: making him have some different looks in that football game.

722
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: You're going to see that every Sunday.

723
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: And I know, I know, I know.

724
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: It felt like every time he would get the snap,

725
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: he was thinking about that rush. Yeah, he was all right,

726
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: where's it coming from?

727
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 6: I don't know the right tackle was breaking down in

728
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: that that that Michigan game.

729
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how he hold front it was. It

730
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: was just hard for him to do.

731
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 6: And I'm not making excuses for the kid, but man,

732
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 6: it is those very much like you're watching, you know,

733
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: with our kid from Ohio State that's now down at

734
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: the with the Texans Stroud Stroud and watching him play

735
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 6: with those pro wide receivers you know, at Ohio State

736
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 6: and play that Georgia game. You're watching Pennis play with

737
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 6: pro receivers and you're thinking, man, this is what he

738
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: can do with with those type of receivers those That's

739
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: that was encouraging to me. That really was encouraging me.

740
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 6: And I understand what you're saying about. You know, where

741
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 6: you have. These quarterbacks are so hard to evaluate. It

742
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 6: really is hard to value. Have been wrong on a

743
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 6: lot of courters.

744
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely nature of the positions and some of the smartest

745
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 5: people I know in the NFL.

746
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: The Packers are wrong about quarterbacks.

747
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: They seem to nail it as soon as you walk

748
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: into that building.

749
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: It's just that did not rub off of me at

750
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 6: all when I was working there. So I know what,

751
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 6: I know what the problem is there. But yeah, I

752
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 6: I do.

753
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I I don't think Pennix

754
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: is a first round quarterback. I don't, but man, I

755
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: the guy.

756
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 6: Is a winner, and he's and he's everywhere he's been

757
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 6: and deep ball the dB, you.

758
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: Can make the argument he's the best de ball throw

759
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: in the draft.

760
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: Really absolutely, with the way he chucks me. He's so aggressive.

761
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: He knew he had pro receivers that he was starting to.

762
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

763
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: I mean to me, that's I'm watching these guys when

764
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 6: they play, these quarterbacks and the and I'm thinking, well,

765
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 6: this could translate because he's already playing with pro receivers,

766
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, he's putting the ball. It's not

767
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: like these guys are having to work a ton, you know,

768
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 6: but that you know, But.

769
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: It was Rodney Jalen Polk and Jayalen McMillan is a

770
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: I love that he's a good player.

771
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: The one thing that I'm looking at, though, is if

772
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: you look at the way that quarterbacks have been overvalued

773
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: in recent drafts, and you look at Kenny Pickett late

774
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: first round, twenty third overall when he was taken by Pittsburgh.

775
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: You look at Will Levis.

776
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 3: He didn't go in the first, but he was very

777
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: early in the second. If you're comparing Michael Pennix to

778
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: those two guys, which are recent prospects, I think he's.

779
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: Better than both of those guys.

780
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: Great interesting, and I will have them him most likely

781
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: in final grades. Of course aren't here yet, but whenever

782
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: I've got him graded out, I will most likely have

783
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: him higher than both of those guys. And so if

784
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: that's the case, then you might see a team take

785
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: a flyer on him.

786
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: Late in the first The biggest myth in the draft

787
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: process is there's a consensus quarterback board somewhere that everybody's

788
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: working on.

789
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: Every single board, especially.

790
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: At quarterbacks, look so different team to team with what

791
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: they value what they're looking for. You know, like in

792
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: this perfect example, you and I to me, there's a

793
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: huge gap between Will Levis and Michael Pennox.

794
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I don't. I don't.

795
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: I liked Will Levis more than I like Michael Pennox.

796
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: That's just that's my op And I think the two

797
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: playoff games with Penix was a good example. I thought,

798
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: how he played against a very vanilla Texas defense, show

799
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: what he can do. And that's an NFL quarterback right there.

800
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: Against Michigan, which is closer to what NFL defenses are

801
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: going to throw it on weekend week out, he missed

802
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: open reads.

803
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: The accuracy wasn't on point.

804
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 5: I think, you know, a lot of people watch the

805
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: Oregon games and then the playoff games of Penix, but

806
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: watch him against Arizona State and Utah and some of

807
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: these other defenses that really gave him trouble. And I

808
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 5: don't know, I struggle with Penix quite a bit. And

809
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: that doesn't even in factor in the medicals older guy,

810
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: you know, so someone.

811
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: That's gonna knock him as his age in the medicals,

812
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: those are two See. I think people go to Indy

813
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: yeah and completely be knocked.

814
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 6: But I feel like that people with the age, it

815
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: doesn't bother them. For this reason, I think people are

816
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 6: the liking the fact that these quarterbacks are making more starts.

817
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: You know that we've gone away.

818
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: From uperiend, you know, wheel to ourselves.

819
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've gone away from the Okay, well, Mitch Trubisky

820
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: only started ten games. Now he's the third overall pick,

821
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: and you know, and then you look at Brock Perdy,

822
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 6: who started a million games, but he's mister irrelevant. And

823
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 6: now people are looking at experience and starts as a

824
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 6: positive and not as a negative.

825
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, I felt like, oh, he was an older

826
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: guy and all.

827
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: You always used to hear that, but then now these

828
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 6: guys are you know, the guys are getting thrown into

829
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 6: the game so much earlier in their career.

830
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: Yes, and he starts bo Nick's had in his college.

831
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Girl fifty something.

832
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 6: I'm sure with a fifty three.

833
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: There you go.

834
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like you played LSU a lot. Again,

835
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

836
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: And he was forty three and eighteen over those So

837
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: even though like at Auburn, three years at Auburn weren't perfect,

838
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 5: No they were were, He's still won some game.

839
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: He won gauge and.

840
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 6: You're absolutely right about that. But let me ask you

841
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 6: this real quick. The thing with is Caleb Williams. The

842
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: scrutiny on the quarterback? What what? What are people going

843
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: to scrutinize the most about him? When you and if

844
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: you had to, Because I love I love Jalen Daniels

845
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 6: as well, my l Shues, my Jaden Daniels, my lsu Gout,

846
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 6: I love him, but people are going to scrutinize how

847
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 6: thin he looks. Yeah, he's you know, especially with what's

848
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: happened to the poor kid at Carolina, you know, and how.

849
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: At least he's sixty three.

850
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but two five he made and he takes some

851
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: wicked hits and he hits up. He's tough and all that.

852
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: But what's going to be the scrutiny for Caleb Williams?

853
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: Why?

854
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 6: Why are people going to poke holes in him? Because

855
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: I watch his tape and I'm like thinking, Skeltic's for

856
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: real deal for me.

857
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he'll probably end up as my

858
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 5: number one player in the draft. I mean, he is

859
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: the clear favorite to go number one. When you look

860
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: at the Notre Dame game, certainly that was not a

861
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: great game for him on the road against a very

862
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: good defense. If we're gonna ding Michael Pennox for how

863
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: he played against Michigan, r ding Caleb Williams, the way

864
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: he played against Notre Dame, the off field stuff.

865
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it's as much.

866
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 5: Of a factor as a lot of people want to

867
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 5: make it. You know, doing GQ articles and painting his

868
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: nails and just being a little bit different is not

869
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: like the worst thing in the world. Uh, certainly not

870
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: as bad as some people make it out to be.

871
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 5: You know, the crying in the stands with his mom

872
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: like shows me the guy.

873
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: Cares, Yeah, like I don't.

874
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 5: I'm confused by the criticism of that one. At the

875
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: end of the day, is he going to win you

876
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: football games? That's what it's going to come down to.

877
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 5: And I think the the goal of picking a quarterback

878
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: in the top ten should not be defined a next

879
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes Andrew Luck that that's not it's not realistic.

880
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: You put too much pressure on these guys to be

881
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: that guy. The expectation or the goal of drafting quarterback

882
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 5: in the top ten is can he be an NFL

883
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 5: quarterback that ranks top ten in the league. Yeah, you know,

884
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: because that's the guy that's gonna help me win a division,

885
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: go to the playoffs.

886
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: That's all you need. If you have a guy.

887
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: That's a top ten quarterback in the NFL, you've got

888
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 5: a chance, you know, because you're going to get into

889
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: the dance. And then once you do, it's game by

890
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: game by game, and anybody can win those games. So

891
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: I think Kayleb Williams, I think Drake May and I

892
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: would throw Jay and Daniels in there as guys that

893
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 5: you can at least understand how a team will look

894
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: at them and say, yeah, he had there's a trajectory

895
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: of him becoming a top ten quarterback in league.

896
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Is there a chance that Daniels is the second quarterback taken?

897
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: He could go one?

898
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: I mean, look, what would just say about these there's

899
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 5: no consensus, you know, all it takes is one team

900
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: to I do think the odds are low that he

901
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: would go one, a little bit higher than to go two.

902
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: But I think the odds would be he's going to

903
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: be the third quarterback drafted. But you know, we have

904
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: a brand new regime in Washington. Who knows how they

905
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 5: haven't hired a head coach yet. You know, it's who

906
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 5: knows how they're going to view that quarterback position.

907
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: Maybe they are.

908
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: Going for because Drake may is a really talented guy.

909
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: But down the stretch, you watched the Clemson tate the

910
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 5: NC State worries you a little bit. Some of the

911
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: decision making now part of it is. And you could

912
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: say the same thing with Caleb. He felt like he

913
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: had to put the superhero cape on and do it

914
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: all himself because he just wasn't getting a ton of help.

915
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: But still they're young players working through their mistakes. Jane

916
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 5: Daniels is a five year starter. He's to your point

917
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: you were saying earlier about that age factor, having the experience.

918
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: You know what he did at Arizona State, then he

919
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: moves to LSU. Having the same off defensive ecosystem two

920
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: years in a row, first time he's ever had that

921
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 5: two years in a row, played a big factor in

922
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: him blowing up like this.

923
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: So I'm a big believer.

924
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: They won ten games because of him.

925
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 4: Oh no, he was the reason why they played bad defense.

926
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: They were historically bad defense.

927
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: They won ten games because him, and if you if

928
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 6: you dig him for anything else, just remember that he

929
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 6: was the one reason why they won ten games.

930
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 5: I'm a big believer in when you scout players, bank

931
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: on explosive plays. I think those translate with Jane Daniels.

932
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: He accounted for ninety plays of twenty plus yards this year.

933
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 5: To put that number in perspective, Joe Burrow his hei's

934
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: been winning season, National title winning season a couple years ago.

935
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: He had eighty seven and he did that in fifteen games.

936
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels had ninety and.

937
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 8: Twelve games with Jamar Chase and just yeah, to.

938
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: That point, I mean, neighbors is neighbors and Thomas are

939
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: pretty good.

940
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: He's a top five pick.

941
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: Neighbors Neighbors, Yeah, Brian Thomas.

942
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 5: I think if he ends up being a top twelve pick, yeah,

943
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: surprise me at all.

944
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: He is that type of talent.

945
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Neighbors that's rare.

946
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, I do think he had plenty

947
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: of help. But the name that comes up when you

948
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: talk about Jane Daniels with teams is Lamar Jackson. Cool,

949
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: And it's not a apples apples comparison necessarily, But defenses

950
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: have to gain plan for you for Jane Daniels the

951
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: same way they have to gain plan for Lamar Jackson

952
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: escape because he is legit. With his leg he can

953
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: beat you from the pocket. Still, some processing things that

954
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: I think he's still developing at, but he advanced that

955
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: the advancement.

956
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: He made this year as a passer was really impressive.

957
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, and there's no doubt again the offensive line

958
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 5: played really well this year. He had the two first

959
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: round receivers and then even the guys that went back,

960
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: those guys are getting drafted next year for eelas year receiver.

961
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: So he's he had a lot of talent around him.

962
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 5: But a credit to Jayan and Daniels for really taking

963
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: advantage of that.

964
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: I think he got him dead on right. Yep.

965
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: A couple of really interesting quarterback conversations already. Then we're

966
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: not even to the All Star Games, so there's gonna

967
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: be a lot of eyes on the guys that are

968
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: in the Senior Bowl, that are in the Shrine Bowl,

969
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: and then you get into the Combine and guys that

970
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: will throw in Indianapolis that'll go a long way as well.

971
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: Kind Of shifting to the defensive side before we take

972
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: our second break, Nick, whenever you look at this Senior

973
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: Bowl roster, are there any defensive players that we should keep.

974
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 14: Our eye on?

975
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: Whenever you go in.

976
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm really excited to see a few of them

977
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 10: next week in Mobile. I want to start with Kenyon Mitchell.

978
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 10: I believe that's how you say his name out of

979
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 10: Toledo the corner. Really excited to see what he puts

980
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 10: on the field next week. He's a guy that you

981
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 10: see in the late first round, you see early second round.

982
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 10: He's a guy I'm really excited to see Ennis Rakestraw.

983
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 10: We talked about him a little bit last week. Another

984
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 10: Senior Bowl guy. But Cameron kinchins I think that's the

985
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 10: number one guy I'm gonna be looking forward to seeing

986
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 10: a Mobile next week.

987
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 8: I mean he's a hard hitter, he's aggressive.

988
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 10: If you're looking out of Miami, Miami, if you're looking

989
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 10: for a guy that kind of fits the Cowboys mold

990
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 10: of safeties of the past as far as hard hitters,

991
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 10: really aggressive. Might give up the big play here and there,

992
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 10: but he's gonna be able to make some plays in

993
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 10: the front end and be able to kind of lay

994
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 10: his hat down on some few occasions.

995
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 8: Cameron Kitchens is that guy we talked about just Doublon.

996
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Grave By saying he gives a big play.

997
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch the Cowboys, watch.

998
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: The North Carolina tape.

999
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: I think that is a good example of the good

1000
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 5: and the bad with him because he will.

1001
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 4: Give up some plays, but he will make some plays

1002
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: as well.

1003
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: And he's a good example of juniors now being eligible

1004
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: for these All Star games, and he's a guy taking

1005
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: advantage of that. You know, a lot of juniors are saying,

1006
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: you know, I put enough on tape.

1007
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm coming out, but I don't need an All Star game.

1008
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: Kitchens got the Senior Bowl invite, and most grades on

1009
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 5: Kitchens are right around that third round from scouts.

1010
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: He wants to get into the second.

1011
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 5: He wants to be a top fifty guy and going

1012
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: to the Senior Bowl is a great opportunity for him

1013
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 5: to do that. A big question will be, you know,

1014
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 5: how fast is he run? Does he really have the

1015
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: top tier athleticism to cover both sidelines? If he's going

1016
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: to be playing a center field type of safety role

1017
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: is he you know, can he play a post safety?

1018
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: What kind of safety is he? What kind of athlete

1019
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: is he?

1020
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: So this week at the Senior Bowl will or next

1021
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 5: week at the Senior Bowl and Mobile will be a

1022
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 5: big opportunity for him.

1023
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: What about the wake Forest kid? Is it Mustapia?

1024
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: Is that he's a safety?

1025
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: Malik Mustapia.

1026
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 6: I had a scout tell me about him and the

1027
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 6: words I say, they used to safety from Forest and

1028
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 6: the guy said, he's an active, tough, physical, fun to

1029
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 6: watch player. So I mean he I said, give me

1030
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 6: a name of a guy and he is there? Day

1031
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 6: any thought about that at all?

1032
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: Or am I?

1033
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: No?

1034
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: No?

1035
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 4: I think he's right now.

1036
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: He's in the middle rounds, I think, you know, but

1037
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: a guy that's trying to get into that top one hundred.

1038
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I asked for some under the radar kind of guys.

1039
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not the I mean he's he gave me then.

1040
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: Him Jalen Simpson from.

1041
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 10: All the kind of like that safety linebacker hybrid side

1042
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 10: Jalen Simpson. I think he could really start to jump

1043
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 10: up whenever you look at what he can do from

1044
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 10: a flex positional standpoint.

1045
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 5: And that's a good riser because yeah, he was PFA

1046
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 5: coming to the year and then started picking off passes

1047
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: this year for Auburn and put himself into that draft.

1048
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 10: Right.

1049
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ball skills guy. That's what they were saying

1050
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: about this kids. Did you want to add something on

1051
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: Kitchens at the end there.

1052
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 10: Speaking of safeties and guys that I think probably won't

1053
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 10: test well. Combine, it would be kind of interesting to

1054
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 10: kind of see how their process goes. Javon Bullard, I

1055
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 10: think that's another one out of Georgia that that's.

1056
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: Your guy, right.

1057
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just don't think he's gonna test big guy.

1058
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 10: I don't think he's gonna test well. That's the one

1059
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 10: thing that I think I will be a little bit

1060
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 10: concerning coming out of comment. I'm with you, Zach. I'm

1061
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 10: with you, Zach. I think he's a good player.

1062
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: We had the same talk with Winfield Junior when he

1063
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: came out.

1064
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm still win Winfield Junior. I got you.

1065
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 5: That's a that's a great shout out, because I that's

1066
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: the question. Is he going to run and test well

1067
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: enough to go in the top fifty picks?

1068
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 4: But man, he will hit you. He will.

1069
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: He's so aggressive with the way he plays the angles

1070
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: that he takes, and he's smart. I mean you can

1071
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 5: tell that he is, you know, really anticipating what the

1072
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: offense is doing, based off of formation, based off of tendencies,

1073
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 5: and puts himself in a position to make plays. So, yeah,

1074
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 5: Bullard is a This safety class overall is probably don't

1075
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: have a first round safety. I don't think, but you know,

1076
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: how does it? Tyler Nuban from Minnesota.

1077
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: And NUVID is I think really good, no doubt.

1078
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: Big fan of Duban. I one of my favorite safeties

1079
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: this year is Jadon Hicks Washington State.

1080
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 6: That guy there you go on now now we're talking

1081
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 6: sixty three two ten, Nah, you tell me about him,

1082
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 6: let's go.

1083
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, he had one of Michael Pennix's then throw

1084
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 5: a ton of interceptions.

1085
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: No, this guy one of them. Yeah.

1086
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: Watching Wisconsin tape and watch him just lay out dudes

1087
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 5: over the middle, watch him cover.

1088
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1089
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: He is a lot of fun. He'll be at the

1090
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl as well.

1091
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 10: If you want a smart football player, Tyler Nuban is

1092
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 10: that guy for me. I mean you see him lining up, yeah,

1093
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 10: you can see. You can see him lining up in

1094
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 10: single high instances. You see him even coming up and

1095
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 10: lining up on the line and like third down and

1096
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 10: short situations. He's I said it. I think last week.

1097
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 10: I think he's the best run defending safety in this class. Yeah,

1098
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 10: he's He's incredible.

1099
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 9: How we feel about Peyton Wilson and C State. I

1100
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 9: watched him, man and that dude you talk about intelligence

1101
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Speaker 9: instincts all around the football medicals, I mean medical.

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Speaker 8: You missed it. We had a whole Peyton Wilson mark

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Speaker 8: on that show.

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Speaker 2: Like this guy's all over the damn field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah he was four hundred tackles him.

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Speaker 2: Or Eikenberg from Ohio State? Which one?

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Speaker 4: It comes down to the medicals? It does because he.

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Speaker 2: He used to be so good at this.

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Speaker 3: I think Will Slivers a little better than Iickenberg.

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Speaker 4: I think, oh yeah, no doubt. I think so too.

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Speaker 4: Wilson literally has double digit surgeries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem. Double That's what happens when you

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Speaker 3: have four hundred tackles. Yeah, you're gonna get banged up

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: In the And the question is, Okay, I see a

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Speaker 4: guy that you know is going to be fine riders contract?

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Speaker 7: Is he you know?

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Speaker 5: Like that's that's He's gonna be a tough one for

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Speaker 5: the doctors to really figure out. But you guys, I

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Speaker 5: mean you're all over him. He's a really fun player.

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Speaker 2: Before we go to break the six foot trotter.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, I see him in first srown mocks

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like a second third. I think third

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Speaker 2: round guy. Is it because of his height?

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's the type of athlete. I mean,

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Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety seven he's a first round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know that's but in today's.

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Speaker 2: Quand Smith's making a lot of plays with the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say that he.

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Speaker 5: Could run and he can make plays in the sideline trotter.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know if he's that type of athlete,

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Speaker 5: and I don't I don't trust him in space necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Just called your gush slow.

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Speaker 4: He did call my guy, called him not blazing facts.

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Speaker 2: I love the drafted his dad. Yeah, and he's got

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Speaker 2: some toughness like his dad. Do you watch Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cedric Gray, North Carolina. Eve check him out?

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Speaker 2: No, I need that's he's taller.

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Speaker 12: Check out?

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Speaker 2: Is that dude?

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Speaker 8: Singer Bowl guy as well?

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Speaker 5: So that'll be fun next Well, in the top Shrine

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Speaker 5: guy this year, it might be the top linebacker drafted,

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Speaker 5: Edwin Cooper from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about him.

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Speaker 3: And we've got Zach Wilchuck. I'm Kyle Yeomens all right.

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Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl preview. We just talked about it. One hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty of the nation's top NFL draft prospects coming

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Speaker 3: to Frisco. Practices get underway on Saturday for practices right, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, right,

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Speaker 3: four straight days of practice and we'll be right across

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Speaker 3: the hall, so we'll have an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: It's the way of that we know.

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Speaker 4: They it's not public anymore. It's so they don't really

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Speaker 4: tell us.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure because most everyone's coming in and I think

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Speaker 5: they're doing them separately anyways, Its just by position and

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Speaker 5: to everybody at once.

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Speaker 4: So I think those are probably Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Then, Okay, so I actually know how big these guys are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, official measurements. I know Fridays when interviews start.

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited to sit down with something. A lot

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Speaker 4: of these guys ask some questions.

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Speaker 5: That's such an invaluable part of my process, just getting

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Speaker 5: one on one time with these guys. So that yeah,

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Speaker 5: it starts tomorrow Friday.

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Speaker 3: And Senior Bowl doesn't do public weigh ins either since

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Speaker 3: COVID right right, that's just done away with it.

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Speaker 11: Why is it?

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, if you know, I think.

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Speaker 5: Some people believe it's kind of an antiquated way of

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Speaker 5: doing things. You know, making these guys try to cross

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Speaker 5: the stage in the short you know, and staying on

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Speaker 5: a scale.

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Speaker 2: And hundreds of media members. Yeah, scouts, if you're.

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Speaker 5: An evaluator, there's value in understanding of player's body type

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Speaker 5: and just okay, muscle definition, is there room dead muscle?

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Speaker 4: Things like that.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, we don't need to make

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Speaker 5: it as much of a spectacle as we've done the Okay.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting Now with this group of senior or Shrine

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Speaker 3: Bowl participants and the juniors being able to play in

1243
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Speaker 3: these all star games, do you feel like there's an

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Speaker 3: uptick in the roster this year compared to years past

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Speaker 3: and the way that this Bowl Game has been represented.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the juniors certainly helped that.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 5: One of the keeping with the Miami theme, on the

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Speaker 5: Miami defense theme, one of the juniors that I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to see is Leonard Taylor, defensive tackle, former five

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Speaker 5: star guy, right, I mean, he was big time coming

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Speaker 5: out of high school.

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Speaker 2: And where to go to high school? The first he

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Speaker 2: is explosive off the snatch.

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Speaker 5: The flashes are first round, but the body of work

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Speaker 5: not there, and so it's like he I will bet

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Speaker 5: He is the most interviewed player this week at the

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Speaker 5: Shrine bol trying to figure out why, trying to figure

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Speaker 5: out what makes him tick? Yeah, how much does he

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Speaker 5: love football? Is this some thing that he's you know,

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Speaker 5: because he has potential? Does he have that you know, intensity,

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Speaker 5: that fire within him that he's going to reach out potential?

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Speaker 10: I mentioned it had been in the last show about

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Speaker 10: Leonard Taylor. He was a guy that, like, for me,

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Speaker 10: I wanted to stay away from because I've seen these

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Speaker 10: types before, the five star, the guy who was from

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Speaker 10: the very moment he stepped on a high school field

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Speaker 10: had everything he ever needed. Yeah, stayed home, went to Miami.

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Speaker 10: And this feels like a trend with Miami guys too,

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Speaker 10: where they get to Miami and there're this big time

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Speaker 10: prospect and then they just kind of don't have that

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Speaker 10: same passion, that same fire, and whenever they get to

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Speaker 10: the NFL, they fizzle out really fast. So that's why

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Speaker 10: I'm like, I would much rather go in a different

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Speaker 10: direction at defensive tackle with this defensive tackle class if

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Speaker 10: it was a different class. Okay, yeah, I'm investing a

1277
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Speaker 10: little bit more time in Leonard Taylor. I agree he

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Speaker 10: has that explosive get off. He has those moments, but

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Speaker 10: the production, I mean, there's there's just not a lot

1280
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Speaker 10: of it.

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Speaker 3: That he and and he does. When Brian watched him,

1282
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Speaker 3: he'll be like he's on the ground a lot.

1283
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he is, and you're front on the ground. I

1284
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Speaker 2: hate that. Yeah, Well, and he's a guy if you're

1285
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Speaker 2: a clapper as a defensive back. Because I agree with

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Speaker 2: one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Percent of what you guys are saying. But at a

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Speaker 5: certain point, it's like, okay, where are we okay drafting him?

1289
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 5: Because if he's still around in the late fourth round,

1290
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Speaker 5: is at a point where we're like, okay, we'll take

1291
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 5: a swing on this guy, and you know if we

1292
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Speaker 5: miss right, and so at what point do we feel

1293
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: comfortable drafting him? That's part of this fact finding mission

1294
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 5: of these All Star games when you interview him and

1295
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 5: I'm glad he's going to be here to you know,

1296
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: kind of answer some of those questions.

1297
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Speaker 3: Where would you feel comfortable sliding him in if you

1298
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Speaker 3: had to put a grade on him early?

1299
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Speaker 5: You know, if I did a three round Monck draft,

1300
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 5: you wouldn't be in there. I think somewhere early day

1301
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 5: three is where you start to have those conversations about Okay,

1302
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: at some point this potential is worth us, you know,

1303
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: throwing a Day three pick out.

1304
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 6: So we're going to open our Day three broadcast and

1305
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Speaker 6: we're going to talk about the names, and he's going

1306
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Speaker 6: to be one of those names, isn't it.

1307
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Speaker 2: Remember?

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Speaker 4: But you know what all it takes is one team.

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Speaker 4: We've seen traits guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, we have that we thought, And so

1311
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Speaker 5: if he sneaks into the Day two I don't think

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Speaker 5: it'd be completely shocking based off of again those flashes

1313
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Speaker 5: that he has. But this is where the process that

1314
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Speaker 5: starts for him to prove himself and to convince teams,

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Speaker 5: hey I'm worth that gamble.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about this cornerback from the CFL Stiggers, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: This is a story I wanted to bring up. This

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00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 10: is a very very interesting one. So this kid Kwantes Stiggers,

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00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 10: he you college, right, So he played at I'll start

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Speaker 10: with the high school day. So he started at this

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00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 10: prep academy in Atlanta, the best academy. It's basically like

1322
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Speaker 10: a private type ordeal. The best I could find. Couldn't

1323
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 10: even really find much about this school. Played there, ended

1324
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 10: up on an HBCU scholarship to Lane College in Tennessee

1325
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 10: D two program. Was only there, I believe half a semester.

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Speaker 10: His father passed away, was in a car accident, so

1327
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 10: he had to go back home and help support his family.

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 10: Work two jobs, instacart, was working door dash things like

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 10: that to support for his family. He's got a brother

1330
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 10: who's a quadriplegic because of a football injury.

1331
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 8: He broke his spine.

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Speaker 10: He's got three other siblings and a single mom now

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00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 10: who had lost lost her husband. So he was supporting

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Speaker 10: for the family and the mom. One day signed him

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Speaker 10: up for a tryout for the Fan Controlled Football League

1336
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 10: in Atlanta, and it's the seven on seven fan control

1337
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 10: Football You've probably seen it in some areas.

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Speaker 8: He goes there and he balls out.

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Speaker 10: Thatches the attention of the offensive coordinator for the Toronto

1340
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 10: Argonauts in CFL. They say, hey, you know, come up

1341
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Speaker 10: to Toronto. Let's try you out in this open tryout ordeal.

1342
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Speaker 10: You know, see if you can maybe get a camp invite.

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Speaker 10: He gets a camp invite, He goes to camp, and

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Speaker 10: the staffers at Toronto said, by day two he was

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Speaker 10: separating himself from the rookies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're there.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Ended up starting as a corner on the Toronto Argonauts

1349
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Speaker 10: in the CFL, so made the team, goes up there

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Speaker 10: and then wins the CFL Rookie of the Year five interceptions,

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Speaker 10: fifty six tackles this past season.

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Speaker 8: Really fun story. He's going to be at the Shrine

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Speaker 8: Bowl this week.

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Speaker 10: The NFL sent out a memo a couple of weeks

1355
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Speaker 10: ago about him, saying that he's eligible to be drafted.

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Speaker 10: About half of the gms have already reached out to

1357
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 10: his representation about him, and he'll have a pro dain

1358
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 10: in Atlanta around the same time as Georgia and Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 10: That's going to be really big for him because there's

1360
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Speaker 10: just so many unknowns because he didn't play college football.

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Speaker 10: But he wins the Rookie of the Year in the

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Speaker 10: CFL and he's able to pick up all these different

1363
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 10: type of concepts so fast. Denver is probably the program

1364
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Speaker 10: I'm looking at for him. I say program franchise and

1365
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 10: I'm looking at for him. There's a lot of Broncos

1366
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 10: connections with the Argonauts and GM has already kind of

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00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 10: reached out there. So Denver's probably the one you want

1368
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 10: to look at. If he goes undrafted. But I think

1369
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 10: this is a guy that can get drafted. I think

1370
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 10: sixth seventh round. This is a guy you look at.

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Speaker 8: He has a big week this week at shrinebol that

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 8: could even rise.

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Speaker 6: I watched him play Hamilton Tiger Cats. Yeah, the Hamilton

1374
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 6: Tiger Cats. My man had an interception the game, but

1375
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 6: one handed interception this game. Uh, he could play left

1376
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 6: or right corner. He's got ball skills. I mentioned the interception.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He plays a lot of own in the CFL, so

1379
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 6: you see him play kind of sideways. But he's a

1380
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 6: he's a stocky guy and he and he's not afraid

1381
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Speaker 6: to tackle. I mean there were a couple of times

1382
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 6: where ball the the you know, the receiver caught the

1383
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 6: ball from and he's driving on the ball. He does

1384
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 6: have quickness and when they break inside on him, he

1385
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 6: can chase and trail. I had two scouts tell me

1386
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 6: because I was saying, give me some they said, watch

1387
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 6: his kid from the CFL. So NFL teams are already there,

1388
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 6: pro depart. It's probably seen this kid play, but he does.

1389
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 6: He's compact. He did lose his man in this game

1390
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 6: that on one they gave up a touchdown late in

1391
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 6: the game. He kind of lost it in that end

1392
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 6: zone here. It's a huge end zone they play in,

1393
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 6: by the way, Yeah, but they lost the guy.

1394
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: But other than that, everything about the movement, the way

1395
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: he ad just the way he stays with this guy,

1396
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: the way he drives tackles, there's a lot there was

1397
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: a lot of things that you just kind of going, oh, okay,

1398
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: I could see why people are talking about this kid.

1399
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: But again, I had two NFL guys say, hey, you

1400
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: need to check this CFL kid out, you know, And

1401
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's why I asked, And I'm glad, you're

1402
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: glad you knew the story.

1403
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 10: The corners coach for the Broncos, they asked him he

1404
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 10: played in the NFL for quite a bit, or corners

1405
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 10: coach for the Argonauts, he played for the Broncos quite

1406
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 10: a bit, and he said, this is a third fourth

1407
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 10: round guy for Yeah, but he's like, obviously there's gonna

1408
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 10: be a lot of questions and he's gonna have to

1409
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 10: fulfill a lot of things in the draft process, so

1410
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 10: it's probably a Day three type or deal.

1411
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Speaker 8: But I mean, his Argonauts corners coach was giving him

1412
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Speaker 8: a co.

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Speaker 6: Sign I'll be interested to see how he plays in

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00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 6: the one on ones and stuff, because again, you watch

1415
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 6: the CFL stuff, he's literally playing sideways. They're playing a

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Speaker 6: lot of zone and their funnel and everything into the

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Speaker 6: middle of the field if they can.

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Speaker 8: He's picking up those concept.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 11: Yea fascinating.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you could.

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00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 6: You could go back and watch the YouTube grainy of

1423
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 6: him playing seven on seven.

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 11: Football with that that that league left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, I'm like, wait a minute,

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: this guy played at Toronto. I get some Toronto tape.

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Speaker 7: Let go.

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00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a rare situation to see a guy that's

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 5: already played pro football in an All Star game like this.

1431
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: But because he didn't play college, he is eligible for

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Speaker 5: the draft. And Eric Galco, who uh the director of

1433
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: the Shrine Bowl, called me a few weeks ago and said, hey,

1434
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 5: get this guy in your radar because because.

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Speaker 4: I idn't really didn't know about him.

1436
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't.

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 5: I don't scout the CFL. That's not usually something I've

1438
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 5: had to worry about when it comes to the draft.

1439
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 5: But this guy is eligible, and yeah, he's he's a player,

1440
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 5: so he's got a shot.

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00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: That's awesome. I've never been so close to dropping an

1442
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: S bomb on here, like than saying holy blank because

1443
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: of that story.

1444
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an incredible story.

1445
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I mean it's only fitting that Dame

1446
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: Bruglu is here and we're talking about day three corners

1447
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: here before all.

1448
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: Star Games even get going. Uh, but that's that's outstanding.

1449
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: Is he gonna wear a Saskatchewan or not a Saskatchewan

1450
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: a Tornado helmet for.

1451
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 8: The on the roster of Toronto argonaze YEA, so cool.

1452
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: That's badass. That is awesome. It's a weird number. Forty

1453
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: two is what he wore during the during the season

1454
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: fighting Barry Churches, Anthony Henry.

1455
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: There you go.

1456
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: All right. We could do this for a whole hour,

1457
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: another hour. We could do it all day long. Actually

1458
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: could do it all day Yeah.

1459
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys want to just keep going rolling.

1460
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: We gotta we got it. We got a radio gig.

1461
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: We gotta go down, y'all, gotta get on the road.

1462
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: Dane.

1463
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: It's been so fun catching up with you.

1464
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. This is my pleasure. This is

1465
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: it feels like I never left right Yeah, So anytime.

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: Mission man, You haven't you've been on every year anytime.

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I take advantage of that opportunity and make sure

1468
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: you show.

1469
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: Up at the combine for these guys and that you know,

1470
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: if you have the combine stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be there for over a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.

1473
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Speaker 3: That'll be fun. But we've got Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl,

1474
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: and then of course getting into the Combine stuff coming up,

1475
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: so we'll be in touch. We'll definitely hit you up

1476
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: on the phone line if we need to down the line.

1477
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: But Dan, if you haven't already subscribed to Dan on

1478
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: the Athletic, go and follow subscribe. It is worth your time.

1479
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: And the Beast isn't even here yet, and it's still

1480
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Speaker 3: worth your time to see all the mock drafts and

1481
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Speaker 3: the articles coming out. You can keep up with the

1482
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Speaker 3: draft blog on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Nick Harris and

1483
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: I started that this week, so if you want some

1484
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Speaker 3: running draft content for the Dallas Cowboys, that's a new

1485
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: thing you can check out too if you're a fan

1486
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: of the Draft Show. But that'll do it for us

1487
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: here this week. We'll come back on Tuesday. We'll have

1488
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 3: some Shrine Bowl practices to talk about.

1489
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Speaker 2: Nick Harris will be out in mobile. We'll get him

1490
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Speaker 2: on the phone lines.

1491
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Speaker 3: We'll get you caught up on draft process here in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four for Dan Brugler, Nick Harris, Brian brought

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Speaker 3: us Zach Waltchuck Chris Beaman the back of Kyle Yemen

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Speaker 3: saying so long, we'll see you next week on the

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