1 00:00:10,362 --> 00:00:12,522 Speaker 1: This is an iHeart original. 2 00:00:22,322 --> 00:00:25,442 Speaker 2: Welcome to Very Special Episodes. I'm Jason English. We have 3 00:00:25,522 --> 00:00:28,762 Speaker 2: something a little different for you this week, and before 4 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:31,362 Speaker 2: we get into it, I'm gonna add a little disclaimer 5 00:00:31,642 --> 00:00:35,282 Speaker 2: at the top. If you are someone who's been on 6 00:00:35,362 --> 00:00:39,562 Speaker 2: the Very Special Episodes bandwagon since our very first episode, 7 00:00:39,922 --> 00:00:42,362 Speaker 2: if you've tuned in every week, if you've made this 8 00:00:42,522 --> 00:00:45,882 Speaker 2: show part of your Wednesday routine, there's not a lot 9 00:00:45,922 --> 00:00:49,242 Speaker 2: new for you here in this episode. 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Now, if you are newer to the show 20 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:27,602 Speaker 2: and you have not exhausted the back catalog, I hope 21 00:01:27,602 --> 00:01:29,962 Speaker 2: you hear something in today's episode, which is more of 22 00:01:29,962 --> 00:01:32,842 Speaker 2: a clip show that sends you back into the archives. 23 00:01:32,882 --> 00:01:35,162 Speaker 2: We'll put all the links in the show notes and 24 00:01:35,522 --> 00:01:36,922 Speaker 2: hope you find something new. 25 00:01:43,682 --> 00:01:50,242 Speaker 1: It's December nineteen seventy two. Canadian Jamie Matthews, age fourteen, 26 00:01:50,922 --> 00:01:55,682 Speaker 1: is sitting comfortably in his airplane seat. It's his first 27 00:01:55,722 --> 00:02:02,522 Speaker 1: trip away from home. Jamie's first love is astronomy, and 28 00:02:02,682 --> 00:02:06,762 Speaker 1: astronomy has earned him the trip of a lifetime. He's 29 00:02:07,002 --> 00:02:11,122 Speaker 1: been to the White House, to NASA's Mission control in Texas, 30 00:02:11,402 --> 00:02:17,962 Speaker 1: to the United Nations, and now he's returning home. But 31 00:02:18,082 --> 00:02:22,242 Speaker 1: there's a problem, and no it's not the airline food. 32 00:02:22,962 --> 00:02:28,242 Speaker 1: Someone is threatening to kidnap Jamie because he has a rock, 33 00:02:28,922 --> 00:02:34,002 Speaker 1: and not just any rock, a moonwalk one retrieved by 34 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:38,722 Speaker 1: an astronaut two hundred and forty thousand miles from Earth. 35 00:02:39,242 --> 00:02:43,202 Speaker 3: This is your captain speaking Jamie Matthews. Please come to 36 00:02:43,242 --> 00:02:46,242 Speaker 3: the front of the plane. Jamie Matthews, to the front 37 00:02:46,282 --> 00:02:49,122 Speaker 3: of the plane. Two scary men are here to pick 38 00:02:49,162 --> 00:02:54,282 Speaker 3: you up. I repeat, two very serious looking men are 39 00:02:54,322 --> 00:02:55,962 Speaker 3: here to take you away. 40 00:02:57,602 --> 00:03:03,522 Speaker 1: Jamie takes some tentative steps forward. He's just landed in Detroit. 41 00:03:04,122 --> 00:03:07,562 Speaker 1: Two adults in dark suits meet him on the tarmac. 42 00:03:08,202 --> 00:03:12,122 Speaker 1: Now these men are not the kidnappers. They're from the 43 00:03:12,242 --> 00:03:17,082 Speaker 1: United States Secret Service. They explain to Jamie what's happening. 44 00:03:17,562 --> 00:03:21,642 Speaker 1: His parents back in Canada received an alarming phone call 45 00:03:21,882 --> 00:03:26,802 Speaker 1: threatening his safety all because of this rock. They want 46 00:03:26,842 --> 00:03:31,402 Speaker 1: to escort him to the Canadian border, just to be safe. 47 00:03:31,602 --> 00:03:35,922 Speaker 1: Because the Moon rock isn't exactly a souvenir, it's one 48 00:03:35,962 --> 00:03:41,122 Speaker 1: of the most rare and valuable materials on Earth. It 49 00:03:41,162 --> 00:03:45,362 Speaker 1: could be worth millions. To Jamie, it's worth even more. 50 00:03:46,282 --> 00:03:50,162 Speaker 1: But what the kidnappers don't know is that Jamie doesn't 51 00:03:50,202 --> 00:03:55,722 Speaker 1: have it, not yet anyway, but he will. And the 52 00:03:55,762 --> 00:04:00,282 Speaker 1: men who called Jamie's parents, they're not the only ones 53 00:04:00,362 --> 00:04:02,482 Speaker 1: who want a piece of the moon. 54 00:04:06,242 --> 00:04:08,882 Speaker 2: All right, sound of that episode? You want to go 55 00:04:08,922 --> 00:04:12,202 Speaker 2: listen to the full thing. It's called Operation Lunar Eclipse. 56 00:04:12,522 --> 00:04:16,762 Speaker 2: It was our second episode, and again all these lengths 57 00:04:16,802 --> 00:04:19,642 Speaker 2: will be in the show notes. Another early episode, this 58 00:04:19,882 --> 00:04:22,642 Speaker 2: was in fact our first, was called Boat Trip. We 59 00:04:22,802 --> 00:04:27,082 Speaker 2: drop in on the set of James Cameron's Titanic in 60 00:04:27,122 --> 00:04:30,322 Speaker 2: the mid nineties, and it's the night someone poisoned the 61 00:04:30,402 --> 00:04:33,322 Speaker 2: cast and crew with PCP. It's just one of the 62 00:04:33,362 --> 00:04:35,522 Speaker 2: craziest stories I've ever heard. 63 00:04:39,802 --> 00:04:41,842 Speaker 3: Everybody quiet off I heard. 64 00:04:45,322 --> 00:04:49,602 Speaker 1: It's the night of August eighth, nineteen ninety six. A 65 00:04:49,682 --> 00:04:53,322 Speaker 1: crew in Halifax, Nova, Scotia is working hard on the 66 00:04:53,442 --> 00:04:57,482 Speaker 1: last day of filming at this location. After weeks of 67 00:04:57,522 --> 00:05:02,962 Speaker 1: working overtime and several grueling night shoots, everyone could use 68 00:05:03,002 --> 00:05:06,842 Speaker 1: a break. Around midnight, the crew breaks for a meal. 69 00:05:07,482 --> 00:05:11,802 Speaker 1: It's a welcome respite from setting up cameras, positioning lights, 70 00:05:12,202 --> 00:05:16,682 Speaker 1: and capturing tedious takes of the same scene. It's a 71 00:05:16,802 --> 00:05:21,522 Speaker 1: chance to relax with colleagues and friends, if only briefly. 72 00:05:22,522 --> 00:05:26,922 Speaker 1: But here's what the crew doesn't know. Within thirty minutes, 73 00:05:27,482 --> 00:05:32,562 Speaker 1: all hell will be unleashed on set. It's an incident 74 00:05:32,882 --> 00:05:36,802 Speaker 1: no one could have predicted because it had never happened before, 75 00:05:37,642 --> 00:05:42,442 Speaker 1: or since it's the night the crew of James Cameron's 76 00:05:42,602 --> 00:05:48,722 Speaker 1: Titanic was drugged. Every on set department was affected that night, 77 00:05:49,202 --> 00:05:52,962 Speaker 1: from the grips and electricians to the set decorators and 78 00:05:53,082 --> 00:05:58,522 Speaker 1: camera operators, from the assistant directors to the actors, and yes, 79 00:05:58,762 --> 00:06:04,202 Speaker 1: even future Oscar winner James Cameron. As the chaos ensued 80 00:06:04,322 --> 00:06:09,242 Speaker 1: that night, the mystery of who drugged the crew was ignited. 81 00:06:10,122 --> 00:06:16,242 Speaker 1: A multi year police investigation followed, and one question haunted 82 00:06:16,402 --> 00:06:19,362 Speaker 1: everyone impacted that fateful evening. 83 00:06:20,602 --> 00:06:29,722 Speaker 2: Why did you ever wonder who wrote the pledge of allegiance? No, well, 84 00:06:29,882 --> 00:06:33,482 Speaker 2: stick with me anyway. There's one accepted story about the origin, 85 00:06:33,562 --> 00:06:37,802 Speaker 2: a very specific story told the same way over many decades. 86 00:06:38,242 --> 00:06:41,242 Speaker 2: But in this episode we explore whether that story can 87 00:06:41,282 --> 00:06:45,842 Speaker 2: withstand the test of a curious researcher armed withthewspapers dot 88 00:06:45,842 --> 00:06:50,762 Speaker 2: com account. I give you the pledge. 89 00:06:51,722 --> 00:06:57,442 Speaker 1: It's October twenty first, eighteen ninety two. Across the United States, 90 00:06:57,682 --> 00:07:00,962 Speaker 1: school kids are gathering for a once in a lifetime 91 00:07:01,042 --> 00:07:07,082 Speaker 1: celebration the four hundredth anniversary of Columbus's discovery of America. 92 00:07:07,682 --> 00:07:11,642 Speaker 1: Of course, Columbus never actually stepped foot on American soil, 93 00:07:12,082 --> 00:07:14,882 Speaker 1: and he went to his grave thinking he really landed 94 00:07:14,962 --> 00:07:19,722 Speaker 1: in India. But that's a topic for another podcast. Back 95 00:07:19,762 --> 00:07:24,642 Speaker 1: to eighteen ninety two. In celebration of this flawed and 96 00:07:24,882 --> 00:07:32,082 Speaker 1: historically inaccurate holiday, then President Benjamin Harrison issues a special proclamation. 97 00:07:32,722 --> 00:07:36,922 Speaker 1: He calls for America's new system of public schools to 98 00:07:37,122 --> 00:07:42,282 Speaker 1: fly the American flag high and proud. As parades of 99 00:07:42,362 --> 00:07:46,122 Speaker 1: Civil War veterans file into school yards across the country, 100 00:07:46,482 --> 00:07:50,362 Speaker 1: Students prepare to salute the flag. And not just that 101 00:07:51,162 --> 00:07:55,562 Speaker 1: they're about to recite a new patriotic oath. They've been 102 00:07:55,602 --> 00:07:59,162 Speaker 1: practicing it every day for a month, just for this 103 00:07:59,482 --> 00:08:03,402 Speaker 1: special occasion. It's only twenty two words long, but it's 104 00:08:03,442 --> 00:08:06,642 Speaker 1: still a mouthful for a bunch of school children for 105 00:08:06,642 --> 00:08:08,042 Speaker 1: a name, anyone really. 106 00:08:08,522 --> 00:08:11,802 Speaker 2: Pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which 107 00:08:11,842 --> 00:08:16,882 Speaker 2: it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 108 00:08:18,962 --> 00:08:23,282 Speaker 1: Sound familiar. Sure, it's missing a few words and phrases. 109 00:08:23,802 --> 00:08:28,762 Speaker 1: Those would come decades later. But that day, October twenty first, 110 00:08:29,002 --> 00:08:33,002 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two, was the public debut of what we 111 00:08:33,082 --> 00:08:38,162 Speaker 1: all recognize now as the Pledge of Allegiance. The thing is, 112 00:08:38,602 --> 00:08:42,642 Speaker 1: back then, it wasn't called the Capital P Pledge of 113 00:08:43,162 --> 00:08:48,562 Speaker 1: Capital A Allegiance. It wasn't a thing yet in eighteen 114 00:08:48,682 --> 00:08:51,802 Speaker 1: ninety two, no one had an inkling that this short 115 00:08:51,922 --> 00:08:56,322 Speaker 1: patriotic oath, written for a one time event would ever 116 00:08:56,362 --> 00:09:00,402 Speaker 1: be uttered again. As we'll see, the story of the 117 00:09:00,442 --> 00:09:03,962 Speaker 1: Pledge of Allegiance is a story of a nation at 118 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:08,882 Speaker 1: a crossroads, a nation still here from the collective trauma 119 00:09:08,962 --> 00:09:12,602 Speaker 1: of the Civil War, a nation experiencing one of the 120 00:09:12,722 --> 00:09:17,082 Speaker 1: largest influxes of immigrants in its history. It was a 121 00:09:17,122 --> 00:09:21,122 Speaker 1: time of tremendous anxiety over what it meant to be 122 00:09:21,242 --> 00:09:26,762 Speaker 1: an American, and the original Pledge, with its twenty two words, 123 00:09:27,362 --> 00:09:31,482 Speaker 1: was supposed to offer an answer. The crazy thing is 124 00:09:31,522 --> 00:09:34,722 Speaker 1: more than one hundred and thirty years later, after reciting 125 00:09:34,762 --> 00:09:38,962 Speaker 1: the pledge every morning in nearly every classroom in America, 126 00:09:39,522 --> 00:09:43,642 Speaker 1: we still have absolutely no idea who wrote it. 127 00:09:46,362 --> 00:09:49,242 Speaker 2: Now. We recorded this next one at the Super Bowl 128 00:09:49,282 --> 00:09:52,162 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas on Radio Row as part of our 129 00:09:52,402 --> 00:09:56,322 Speaker 2: iHeart NFL partnership Great Week. It may no longer be 130 00:09:56,402 --> 00:10:00,482 Speaker 2: football season, but Andy Stateon's story is good for all 131 00:10:00,522 --> 00:10:01,362 Speaker 2: sports seasons. 132 00:10:08,682 --> 00:10:13,562 Speaker 1: It's twenty twelve and players at Culver Stockton College in Canton, Missouri, 133 00:10:13,922 --> 00:10:18,642 Speaker 1: are gearing up for football practice. Canton is a college town, 134 00:10:18,842 --> 00:10:22,602 Speaker 1: but not a big one. Nestled near the Mississippi River, 135 00:10:22,722 --> 00:10:27,042 Speaker 1: the population is less than three thousand. Their source of 136 00:10:27,082 --> 00:10:32,362 Speaker 1: athletic pride is the Culver Stockton Wildcats, but times have 137 00:10:32,442 --> 00:10:36,402 Speaker 1: been tough. During the previous season, they went just one 138 00:10:36,562 --> 00:10:41,482 Speaker 1: and ten. It wasn't so much sport as human sacrifice, 139 00:10:42,082 --> 00:10:45,642 Speaker 1: but there's a sense their fortunes can be turned around, 140 00:10:46,202 --> 00:10:50,762 Speaker 1: maybe with some new blood. At practice, a freshman named 141 00:10:50,882 --> 00:10:55,202 Speaker 1: Mike Davis looks around and spots an older man, a 142 00:10:55,562 --> 00:10:59,922 Speaker 1: very very big man, six foot five and two hundred 143 00:10:59,962 --> 00:11:04,322 Speaker 1: and ninety five pounds, and Mike starts to wonder if 144 00:11:04,362 --> 00:11:07,362 Speaker 1: maybe this giant has a son who's going to be 145 00:11:07,402 --> 00:11:11,962 Speaker 1: playing here, hopefully a kid who has the same oversized proportions. 146 00:11:12,762 --> 00:11:14,962 Speaker 2: And I'm looking around the wave room, you know, just 147 00:11:14,962 --> 00:11:17,762 Speaker 2: like who's this guy's got a kit here? Like, whose 148 00:11:18,002 --> 00:11:19,962 Speaker 2: kid is this guy's? 149 00:11:20,002 --> 00:11:23,882 Speaker 1: Mike's head coach looks at the guy, then back at Mike. 150 00:11:24,162 --> 00:11:26,322 Speaker 2: And he goes, Oh, no, that's Andy. He's actually gonna 151 00:11:26,322 --> 00:11:30,282 Speaker 2: be playing for us. And at that point my mind 152 00:11:30,282 --> 00:11:32,842 Speaker 2: blew a little bit and I was like, well, that's 153 00:11:32,882 --> 00:11:36,122 Speaker 2: a grown man. I was like, you know, I asked him, like, 154 00:11:36,122 --> 00:11:37,722 Speaker 2: how old is he? Always thirty eight? 155 00:11:38,682 --> 00:11:42,922 Speaker 1: Thirty eight is older than the coach, older than the trainers, 156 00:11:43,402 --> 00:11:48,522 Speaker 1: older than almost everyone in and around the team. That's 157 00:11:48,562 --> 00:11:53,002 Speaker 1: how Mike and every other player learns about Andy Stayton. 158 00:11:53,642 --> 00:11:57,922 Speaker 1: Andy is the newest nose tackle for the Wildcats and 159 00:11:58,002 --> 00:12:00,882 Speaker 1: a man who's about to get a second lease on 160 00:12:01,042 --> 00:12:04,362 Speaker 1: life by returning to a game he walked away from 161 00:12:04,682 --> 00:12:09,362 Speaker 1: almost twenty years prior. It's an opportunity to provide a 162 00:12:09,402 --> 00:12:13,642 Speaker 1: better life for himself and his kids and close a 163 00:12:13,722 --> 00:12:17,922 Speaker 1: chapter on a story he never quite finished. But as 164 00:12:18,002 --> 00:12:22,442 Speaker 1: a midlife crisis goes, this one is going to hurt 165 00:12:23,162 --> 00:12:23,642 Speaker 1: a lot. 166 00:12:27,042 --> 00:12:30,242 Speaker 2: Okay, one more to highlight. Someone one day might ask 167 00:12:30,282 --> 00:12:35,362 Speaker 2: you your favorite botany rivalry, and I want you to 168 00:12:35,402 --> 00:12:41,842 Speaker 2: have a good answer, So listen to seed Wars. 169 00:12:42,962 --> 00:12:47,282 Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty nine, Joseph Stalin ordered the farmers of 170 00:12:47,322 --> 00:12:52,282 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union to start a utopia. Back then, the 171 00:12:52,522 --> 00:12:57,802 Speaker 1: USSR was a quilt of old school, frankly almost medieval 172 00:12:58,322 --> 00:13:03,482 Speaker 1: farming villages. Peasants lived simply. They grew their own food 173 00:13:03,882 --> 00:13:07,882 Speaker 1: and if they felt like it, sold the surplus. Stalin 174 00:13:08,122 --> 00:13:13,122 Speaker 1: saw that as a problem. The Soviet Union was industrializing. 175 00:13:13,602 --> 00:13:17,602 Speaker 1: People were flocking to cities, and many of them didn't 176 00:13:17,642 --> 00:13:22,162 Speaker 1: have garden plots to grow their own food. Meanwhile, the 177 00:13:22,202 --> 00:13:26,802 Speaker 1: country's stockpile of grain was shrinking by the day. The 178 00:13:26,882 --> 00:13:31,802 Speaker 1: situation was so bad that the USSR was importing wheat 179 00:13:31,842 --> 00:13:36,882 Speaker 1: and rye from the United States. As you can imagine, 180 00:13:37,122 --> 00:13:41,802 Speaker 1: Stalin hated this, so he cooked up a strategy to 181 00:13:41,922 --> 00:13:46,242 Speaker 1: fill every belly in the country with locally grown food. 182 00:13:47,042 --> 00:13:53,122 Speaker 1: The plan collectivization. The state would take over farms and 183 00:13:53,282 --> 00:13:58,442 Speaker 1: all those old school peasants would begin growing food for 184 00:13:58,602 --> 00:14:03,922 Speaker 1: everybody with the stroke of a pen. The government began 185 00:14:04,202 --> 00:14:08,642 Speaker 1: gobbling up farmland. It bought new state of the art machinery. 186 00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:14,002 Speaker 1: It introduced new breeds of high yield, disease resistant crops. 187 00:14:14,722 --> 00:14:19,322 Speaker 1: But there was one problem. Many of the farmers refused 188 00:14:19,442 --> 00:14:20,642 Speaker 1: to join the fight. 189 00:14:22,282 --> 00:14:26,802 Speaker 4: There was sort of a systemic depression among farmers. Now 190 00:14:26,842 --> 00:14:29,642 Speaker 4: they were working for Stalin, not for themselves. 191 00:14:30,722 --> 00:14:36,162 Speaker 1: That's Gary Paul Naban. He's an agricultural ecologist, conservationist, and 192 00:14:36,362 --> 00:14:41,042 Speaker 1: past winner of a MacArthur Genius Grant. He describes Stalin's 193 00:14:41,042 --> 00:14:45,442 Speaker 1: push for collectivization this way. Imagine you live on a 194 00:14:45,482 --> 00:14:49,802 Speaker 1: farm that's been in your family for generations. You know 195 00:14:49,962 --> 00:14:52,362 Speaker 1: the land inside and out. 196 00:14:52,722 --> 00:14:55,442 Speaker 4: They have a pride in taking care of their land. 197 00:14:55,922 --> 00:15:00,482 Speaker 4: They have motivations for working hard to produce crops, both 198 00:15:00,522 --> 00:15:02,282 Speaker 4: for their own food and for others. 199 00:15:03,322 --> 00:15:06,602 Speaker 1: And now suddenly the government is handing you seeds and 200 00:15:06,682 --> 00:15:10,602 Speaker 1: give you quotas, and you can't even keep the spoils. 201 00:15:11,482 --> 00:15:16,922 Speaker 1: Farmers didn't take the news well, especially the most powerful peasants, 202 00:15:17,282 --> 00:15:21,442 Speaker 1: a class of farmers called the Kulos. They simply ignored 203 00:15:21,642 --> 00:15:26,522 Speaker 1: Stalin's demands. When Stalin realized that the Kulaks were resisting, 204 00:15:26,962 --> 00:15:31,642 Speaker 1: he didn't respond with a sternly written letter. He responded 205 00:15:31,842 --> 00:15:36,882 Speaker 1: by promising, and I quote, to liquidate the Kulos as 206 00:15:36,962 --> 00:15:44,962 Speaker 1: a class. Police swooped onto Kulock farms. Around five million 207 00:15:45,042 --> 00:15:50,682 Speaker 1: would be arrested, deported sent to prison camps. Untold numbers 208 00:15:50,762 --> 00:15:57,682 Speaker 1: were killed. Turns out exterminating your most successful farmers is 209 00:15:57,722 --> 00:16:01,762 Speaker 1: a bad idea. 210 00:16:02,722 --> 00:16:05,442 Speaker 2: That's all for today. Again, you want to email the 211 00:16:05,482 --> 00:16:09,922 Speaker 2: show for any reason, very special episodes at gmail dot com. 212 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:13,122 Speaker 2: We'll work in ships. We'll try to apply to everyone. 213 00:16:13,562 --> 00:16:18,402 Speaker 2: Then your recommendations tease upcoming episodes. We're going to be back. 214 00:16:18,482 --> 00:16:22,402 Speaker 2: Our next episode is May fifteenth. It's a good one 215 00:16:22,442 --> 00:16:26,122 Speaker 2: that sits at the intersection of Dana's noble blood world 216 00:16:26,482 --> 00:16:31,362 Speaker 2: and Zarin's Ridiculous Crime Royal Ridiculous Crime. I'm Jason English. 217 00:16:31,442 --> 00:16:33,962 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to our clip show. Hopefully 218 00:16:34,002 --> 00:16:36,962 Speaker 2: one of these intrigues you and go check out the 219 00:16:37,042 --> 00:16:39,562 Speaker 2: back catalog. Lots of other good stuff in there, and 220 00:16:39,602 --> 00:16:48,242 Speaker 2: we'll see you back here. On May fifteenth,